Christian Cancer Patient Pens Plea to 29-Year-Old Who Scheduled Day to Die Over Diagnosis

TippettsA Christian woman and mother of four who is dying of cancer has penned a passionate pro-life plea to a 29-year-old woman who has made headlines in recent days for scheduling her own day to die after receiving a terminal diagnosis.

As previously reported, Brittany Maynard of California has announced that she will end her life on November 1st unless she decides “to change [her] mind about taking the medication [to hasten her death].”

On New Year’s Day this year, Maynard was diagnosed with Astrocytoma and underwent brain surgery days later to help stop the cancerous tumor from growing. She was given ten years to live.

In April, Maynard learned that the cancer had progressed to Glioblastoma multiforme, and was more aggressive than ever. She was advised that she instead had six months to live, and was informed about various treatment possibilities.

Maynard
Maynard

Maynard explained in a recent op-ed for CNN said that she rejected these ideas because they would impact her “quality of life,” and also decided not to pursue hospice care because she did not want her family to watch her suffer.

“Because the rest of my body is young and healthy, I am likely to physically hang on for a long time even though cancer is eating my mind,” she wrote. “I probably would have suffered in hospice care for weeks or even months. And my family would have had to watch that.”

Maynard outlined that she then began researching euthanasia, or as she called it, “death with dignity,” and concluded that it was her “best option.” However, because euthanasia is illegal in California, she and her husband moved to Oregon, which passed a law allowing the practice in 1997. Approximately 750 people have died under the legislation since its enactment.

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The 29-year-old then obtained a prescription for a pill that would hasten her death, and has also decided to establish a fund that will go toward efforts to legalize euthanasia in other states.

But wife and mother Kara Tippetts, who was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 36 and continues to battle the cancer that has now metastasized into her entire body, recently penned a public letter to Maynard to urge her not to end her life. From one dying woman to another, Tippetts explains why she counsels Maynard not to take death into her own hands, but to entrust her life to the hands of the Savior.

“Dear Brittany Maynard, this morning my best friend and I read your story,” the letter begins. “With a heavy heart, I left my home and headed for my oncologist. I too am dying, Brittany.”

“Brittany, I love you, and I’m sorry you are dying. I am sorry that we are both being asked to walk a road that feels simply impossible to walk,” Tippetts continues. “[But] in your choosing your own death, you are robbing those that love you with the such tenderness, the opportunity of meeting you in your last moments and extending you love in your last breaths. … That last kiss, that last warm touch, that last breath, matters—but it was never intended for us to decide when that last breath is breathed.”

She pleads with Maynard not to take the fatal prescription.

“You have been told a lie. A horrible lie, that your dying will not be beautiful. That the suffering will be too great,” Tippetts writes. “[I]n my whispering, pleading, loving voice dear heart—will you hear my heart ask you, beg you, plead with you not to take that pill. Yes, your dying will be hard, but it will not be without beauty.”

The wife and mother of four, and author of the book “The Hardest Peace,” also shares the gospel with Maynard, encouraging her to put her faith and trust in Christ.

“Knowing Jesus, knowing that He understands my hard goodbye, He walks with me in my dying,” she explains. “My heart longs for you to know Him in your dying. Because in His dying, He protected my living. My living beyond this place.”

“Brittany, when we trust Jesus to be the carrier, protecter, redeemer of our hearts, death is no longer dying. My heart longs for you to know this truth, this love, this forever living,” Tippetts continues. “He died an awful death upon a cross so that you would know Him today that we would no longer live separate from Him and in our death. … He died and He overcame death three days later, and in that overcoming of death He overcame the death you and I are facing in our cancer.”

“He longs to know you, to shepherd you in your dying, and to give you life and give you life abundant—eternal life,” she shares. “For everyone living knowing death is eminent—[something] that we all will one day face—this is the question that is most important: Who is this Jesus, and what does He have to do with my dying? … It’s a question we all must ask, as we are all dying.”


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  • C.P. Steinmetz

    This is disgusting. Who in the heck asked her to inject her Christian proselytizing.

    • Wootsauce

      How is trying to offer comfort disgusting? She spoke her heart to a woman going through something similar.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        The woman can’t even die in peace without some Christian taking advantage of her situation to try to convert her to the writers brand of Jesus.
        Assuming you are a Christian, how would you feel in this situation if a Muslim or atheist decided you are living your life wrong, and they needed one last shot to get you to convert?
        I think that fits the definition of disgusting.

        • Wootsauce

          Is that really how you see this? This is a heartfelt reach out not some attack upon on her lifestyle! And if someone tried to do so to me, I’d A: thank them for thinking of me and taking time out of THEIR short time left and B. Tell them I’m happy with where I am and what I believe.

          There is no reason to be so upset with someone actually caring even if you disagree with it.

        • bowie1

          She’s trying to encourage her since she too is suffering from a dread disease. Most people appreciate someone thinking of them.

        • jcrosby35

          I find it disgusting that you would try to deprive her of any hope only to die for nothing. There is no hate in offering hope for life on the other side. What do you have to offer? Death and hell? I choose life. Jesus Christ is Lord.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            You see it as depriving her of any hope. Others can and do see it as none of your business. Jesus Christ may be your Lord, but he isn’t everyone’s. That means that your need to proselytize is your burden and your issue, but that doesn’t give you the right to bother others.

          • jcrosby35

            It is my business because she made it my business by going public. And you C.P. are my business because you go public to push your beliefs on others. So get off your sanctimonies soap box. Your hypocrisy is sickly and getting old.

        • pjwung

          I would probably feel that someone cares, indeed has love for me great enough to reach out when it would be far easier to simply let me die. I would feel that there must be something different about this faith and such person. In fact there is something very different about this faith as compared to either atheism and the Muslim religion. The Christian faith has a central focus upon real sacrificial love and offers nothing to the purveyor of this truth. In fact, so many people have been so deeply moved by the essential difference of faith in Christ that it has been completely life transforming. That is what I would most likely think! That is what this loving women is offering and attempting to give Brittany – compassion, meaning and purpose in the midst of what the world considers hopelessness and oblivion. What she is so passionately attempting to give to Brittany is that love and the hope of eternal life beyond this brief sojourn. Yes I believe that is what I would very likely think.

        • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

          I’m sure the receiver accepts her message in more grace and character than you are exhibiting here, even if she disagrees.

    • Susan Moore

      C.P. if your going to have a bad attitude over everything, just stop reading the internet. There seems to be no good news lately and your making it worse.

    • jcrosby35

      Who in the heck asked you to inject your hate full comment? A person cannot live or dye in peace without some hate full bastard trying to make it worse.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        Exactly my question; who in the heck asked Ms Tippetts to interject her hateful comment? As I am not writing to Ms Maynard, just how am I making it worse?

    • Alex Pislar

      She is not preaching to her about religion. She’s telling her there is faith and hope which is far beyond what you can grasp.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        What is your definition of ‘preaching’? Your definition is obviously much stricter than mine.
        I grasp quite well how faith and hope can help people through problems. If having unfounded faith and hope helps them through the hard times, wonderful. That is, however, much different from arrogantly assuming that you have the ‘truth’ and pushing it on others. Remember, for the families, when their loved one dies, there is only delusion and the possibility of questioning their faith.

    • Pax Humana

      Who asked for your atheist/agnostic/evolution/humanism/hedonism/etc. proselytizing on this website, Mr. Hypocrisy?

  • NoGod4U

    Rather than understanding Maynard’s decision as a fellow human being and that her decision is her own way of ensuring that her loved ones are indeed there to express their love with her in her last moments… the Christian would rather proselytize for the off chance of scoring that death bed conversion, hoorah the army of God.

    • jcrosby35

      And you would rather proselytize for death and no hope? You people are a sorry bunch. You have no hope and despise others who do. You even despise love and the offer of life after death.

      • NoGod4U

        Lets look at your offer of hope shall we…if I reject your idea of God and the human sacrifice of his son how much hope does your after life contain? At least Buddhism teaches if you mess it up this go around you get another shot at it…the Christian message isnt hope its fear.

        • Rose

          The Christian message IS another shot! Everyday you live is another shot to chose Christ. Adam and Eve sinned and cursed the world. And because of that, there was a veil that separated man from God. But because Jesus died for our sins, that veil was taken away and we were allowed to have a relationship with God. The whole thing is plain and simple, God wants us to love him wholeheartedly so he gave us the choice between him or death. And not very many people get this, but it’s not God that sends us to Hell, it’s Satin that drags us in. If you reject our idea of God, that doesn’t change how much hope we have in our afterlife. It just makes us feel sad that there’s so much evidence in the world that proves God’s existence, and that someone would just flat out reject it.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Surely everyone on this Christian site does not believe in the ‘Adam and Eve’ tale. There can be no scientific doubt that the first humans lived at least 30 to 40 years ago – stretching into a 100,000 years ago. How do you fit ‘Adam and Eve’ and related statements into the scientific fact?

          • Rose

            Well you weren’t there to see the big bang. You didn’t see man evolve. Even Charles Darwin admitted that his theory was only a theory and that if it was true that there would be multiple processes in the process of evolution. The story of Adam and Eve at least has a book.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Do you know what the word “theory” means in science? I don’t think it means what you think it means. For example, all the space probes that have been launched are based on the “theory” of gravity.
            I wasn’t there to see the pyramids being built or the cave paintings done either. There is, however, sufficient evidence to believe they happened.

          • Rose

            Theory from my understanding means an idea that has not or cannot be proven true. Evolution is an idea that cannot be proven true.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Please read the following – from Wikipedia:

            The United States National Academy of Sciences defines scientific theories as follows:

            The formal scientific definition of “theory” is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence. Many scientific theories are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them substantially. For example, no new evidence will demonstrate that the Earth does not orbit around the sun (heliocentric theory), or that living things are not made of cells (cell theory), that matter is not composed of atoms, or that the surface of the Earth is not divided into solid plates that have moved over geological timescales (the theory of plate tectonics)…One of the most useful properties of scientific theories is that they can be used to make predictions about natural events or phenomena that have not yet been observed.[16]

            From the American Association for the Advancement of Science:

            A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not “guesses” but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than “just a theory.” It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.[15]

            Note that the term theory would not be appropriate for describing untested but intricate hypotheses or even scientific models.

        • jcrosby35

          And what do you know about my hope or the Christians hope. Christ was the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world,(including yours). As a result of a perfect life death could not hold my Lord. He was raised and He lives. That is hope. Because my Lord lives after death, so will I and everyone who believes in and trusts him. Without Christ there is no hope and no life. Only judgment and condemnation because you chose to refuse God’s perfect sacrifice and payment for your sins. You want to do that then that is your choice. No one but you can make the choice for Christ and life.
          Your offer of death and condemnation is stupid and satanic. But if that is what you want then so be it.

          • NoGod4U

            I really wish Christians would stop and look at what they’re claiming… a human sacrifice to the tribal god of Israel is necessary to cure an invisible disease of SIN that they claim exists because a book written over 2000 years ago by goat herders tells them so… sigh. Again, the message isn’t hope it’s fear.

          • jcrosby35

            I see your point. Sin is not a disease but a condition of every person that only God can fix.
            You want to ignore that then you have every right to be fear full, very fear full indeed. Your future does not look good at all.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Logically, if NoGod4U doesn’t believe in your god, he cannot have any ‘sin’.

          • jcrosby35

            Logically that is BS.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Oh really? I expect you hold to this definition of ‘sin’:
            In Abrahamic contexts, sin is the act of violating God’s will. Sin can also be viewed as anything that violates the ideal relationship between an individual and God. . . ‘ Wisipedia.
            So, if he doesn’t believe in the existence or primacy of your god, logically, he cannot disobey “God’s Will”, ergo, no sin.

          • jcrosby35

            Wrong. Every person is made with a conscience to know at the least the basics of right and wrong. When you willfully violate your conscience you know sin and choose to exercise it regardless. Example, lying, stealing, murder or adultery. You not only know it is wrong when you do it, you also know it is wrong when it happen to you.

          • Rose

            You don’t understand what we’re claiming. In my eyes, all you’re doing is looking at our message negatively and then saying that our message is fear. You don’t understand our side, and you won’t unless you’re open to it. It may seem like fear to you, but it’s not in the eyes of one who has faith.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            You offer belief – sincere belief, I am sure. But that is all it is – your belief.

            When you have objective evidence to back up your assertions, then you can call my ‘offer’ “stupid and satanic”. Until then, you are just being insulting.

          • jcrosby35

            Logically I can say when you can offer proof there is no God then you are being insulting.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Of course, you recognize the logical fallacy in your statement. It is the same as saying prove to me there are no leprechauns. You are the one claiming there is a “God”, so it is your burden to demonstrate such.

          • jcrosby35

            All of creation is a witness to God the creator. The logic of law, order and purpose are ample proof of creation. Now prove there is no God and order came out of nothing?

          • Sherrie Lynn

            C.P. Steinmetz,
            Please read my post above. I think everyone is entitled to what they believe. This includes you and the others on this site.. I have seen enough death and suffering as a volunteer. Based on what I seen and heard I do believe that people have the right to choose

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        NoGod4U was not wanting to proselytize his beliefs, he was asking for no proselytization.
        Why do you think ‘we people’ have no hope, and despise those who do? I don’t despise life, and would gladly accept a real offer of life after death.
        Please don’t project your insecurities on me or NoGod4U.

        • Rose

          Accepting Christ is a real offer of life after death. Why do you think it’s not?

          • NoGod4U

            Do you accept the Mormon God’s offer to have your own planet?

          • Pax Humana

            Do you accept the offer to go copulate yourself, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U?

          • NoGod4U

            hmmm… did Jesus tell you to say that Pax?

          • Pax Humana

            Hmm, did Lucifer tell you to say that, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U?

          • NoGod4U

            I would imagine that Lucifer is perfectly okay with self copulation Pax… are you saying that Lucifer told you to say it not God? Then again it always puzzles me about Christians who hold to this guy Lucifer having such godlike powers… is Lucifer a god to you too? Is it a matter of sometimes you just don’t know which voice it is that is speaking in your head?

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            You have probably been on the Internet long enough to know not to feed the trolls – especially immature, mentally unstable trolls. Reasoned discussion is useless.
            Pax Humana obviously craves attention – why give it to him/her. I am curious to see that if we don’t respond, how long will it take him/her to self-destruct.

          • Pax Humana

            Aw, are you mad, troll? Let me clue you in on a few things, okay? Yes, Lucifer is powerful, but, despite being FAR more powerful than all of humanity combined, he STILL is NO match against the power of YAHWEH EL ELOHIM. Also, speaking of voices inside of heads, which one told you to write out your pseudo-intellectual diatribe that is the verbal and written English language equivalent of a bout of diarrhea, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U? I can keep this up all day.

          • NoGod4U

            Oh Pax I have absolutely no doubt that you could “keep this up all day” because you strike me as a person with a very active imagination, is that the child like faith your bible talks about?

          • Rose

            Human error has nothing to do with Jesus.

          • Rose

            …What?

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            It will become a real offer when you can show it exists. Until then, it is just an unproven belief.

          • Rose

            If you did your research, you’d realize that it is real. But like most people they only look at one side of the story and completely dismiss the other.

        • jcrosby35

          And so what do you offer? Nothing. And nothing is death. I do not need to fit my beliefs into your science. When the truth comes to be known, science is moving closer every day towards God’s Word.
          You want to know the truth and fact? Well the truth and the fact is that all creation speaks of God. And I am not going to reject My creator for your offer of nothing, death and condemnation when I can see God in every thing He has created. Even satan has his proselytization and I am not going for it Mr. Steimetz.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Several points of yours are contentious:

            1. “science is moving closer every day towards God’s Word.”

            That is just totally opposite the reality. Try looking at a science site and it will readily become apparent. Just consider that the Bible says Earth was created before the stars. You buy that?

            2. “all creation speaks of God”. This is true only if you wish to ignore scientific evidence.

            If you do not wish to visit Talkorigins.org to answer all your beliefs, then you can look at:

            http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/next-time-your-creationist-friends-reject-evolution-show-them-this-video/

            I am not asking you to reject your beliefs, just suggesting that an open mind and evidence would be enlightening.

    • Pax Humana

      …and boo for your poor attempt at sarcasm and for your attention whoring instead of having a real social life instead of being a basement dwelling troll, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U.

      • NoGod4U

        Do I need to point out the irony that your claim here that because I’ve made a comment on this article that I’m an attention whore with no real life but instead a basement dwelling troll with nocommonsenseorintellegence and you point this out by…making a comment to my comment. Hmmmm you really might want to think about that for a moment.

        • Pax Humana

          Do I need to point out the fact that you need to go copulate yourself, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U? People like you only shut up when they meet people like myself in back alleys and THEN they are ALWAYS the ones to try and confront them first. People like you never end up well when they face a person like myself in their lives. Have a nice life, or what is left of it anyway, little Lucifer worshiping troll!

        • Pax Humana

          Do I need to point out to you that you are an attention whore and a troll with no social life?

  • Brenda LaCroix

    CP, I am scratching my head here. You dislike Christians yet you are on the internet reading a decidedly Christian page. I am guessing you just want to stir up trouble and you are using two dying women for your own selfish agenda. Geez, that’s disgusting.

    • C.P. Steinmetz

      Your time would be better spent responding to what I wrote, rather than judging my motivations or agenda.
      I don’t believe I said that I didn’t like Christians. Rather, I said this particular Christian’s behavior was reprehensible.

      • Rebecca Clifford

        Well first of all..
        At the end of the day,
        This woman is committing suicide.
        She is choosing
        to take her own life..
        To spare her children…
        Or because she’s afraid of what
        dying with cancer will be like.
        We cannot choose our way to die
        because we are afraid.
        My mother passed away from cancer
        When I was just a girl of 19.
        I am to this day so proud
        of who she was
        and how she handled herself,
        Even while staring cancer,
        fear
        and
        death
        in the face.

        My son faced death at the age of five..
        And that’s all I need to say….
        And I do know this.
        I will face ANYTHING and EVERYTHING
        If my mother….
        If my son ..
        can do it
        in the face of fear.
        I can too

        This woman, on the other hand
        was just giving her another option.
        Another way of looking at death.
        Another way to pass away
        with her children
        next to her.
        Knowing she faced her fears.
        Even when she was scared to death..
        Obviously, some people panic…
        And feel afraid
        and don’t know what to do.
        We all would.

        This other woman
        was just offering her
        A safe haven.
        Another way to see things .
        Comfort.
        The ability to give up control.
        We all need this every day of our lives.
        Wishing we had someone
        to step forward for us.
        When we are sad,..
        or afraid.. and feeling alone.
        If the thought of Jesus…
        Or God.. doesn’t sway her decision.
        At least this other woman..
        Who is facing death also,
        Reached out to her.
        And offered her
        Something far better
        To take with her when she goes.
        The way it stands now,
        She is going to be no less afraid…
        And no more safe….
        And just as scared ..and alone…..
        When she is swallowing a pill…
        And ending her own life…
        As a matter of fact…..
        Maybe even more.
        I am a Christian…
        And I would be afraid also..
        But in the end..
        You go with dignity…
        When you face
        what you’re going through
        Till the end..
        Knowing that the possibility
        Of Jesus… is real.. for this woman.
        .could change everything..
        Stop the negativity people..
        We can only hope someone
        would care enough
        About us..
        To reach out…

      • Pax Humana

        Do you want to get on my bad side, C.P. Steinmetz? Keep it up and you will unleash it, sir!

        • NoGod4U

          ooohhh… I wanna see your bad side Pax. 😉

          • Pax Humana

            Well, people that see it…let me just say that they end up being famous.

  • Ayabonga Nomasayidi

    if Jesus could heal others from cancer how could He leave you? My Sister you are too young to end your life, you still need to minister to people, you still in need of taking care of your children. God is working, believe in Him. Your miracle is on the way, give yourself time or at least God is telling me something that you have to fast 1 week without anything rather than water on your last four days. you will be healed i believe. Jesus glory and his omnipotence is about to be manifested. My mother, my sister my brethren fast for 1 week seeking Him. You will be Healed in Jesus name

  • Evolution is a fact

    “You have been told a lie. A horrible lie, that your dying will not be beautiful. That the suffering will be too great”. What a bunch of delusional nonsense. Let that woman die in peace please.

    • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

      Ms. Maynard has gone public with her suicide as propaganda for medically assisted suicide, so there are going to be a variety of reactions to her publicity, which I’m sure she expects. If she wanted to “die in peace,” I’m sure she would have kept it private. I am also sure that she is strong enough emotionally and confident in her own beliefs to deal with others, with grace and poise, who have a variety of opinions, especially from those who are going through the same trial.

    • Pax Humana

      …and yet you are promoting a bunch of delusional nonsense AND you are trying to nickel and dime the taxpayers into paying for your grand pyramid scheme…ironic, is it not, Evolution is a bunch of male bovine excrement?

      • Evolution is a fact

        #FacePalm

        • C.P. Steinmetz

          HeadDesk, when facepalm just isn’t enough.

          • Pax Humana

            Good, maybe you two can go slam your heads into your desks so much that you can die and that you can spare the world from any further air, land, water, noise, and gene pool pollution and from more oxygen siphoning and thievery?

          • Laura Harding

            Where’s the love Pax? You should know we don’t fight against flesh and blood , Ephesians 6:12

          • Pax Humana

            Shove it, Laura Harding! The Book of Luke, Chapter 22, and Verses 36 to 38 nullifies your Lucifer born argument, among MANY other places in the Old Testament, New Testament, and the Middle Testament/Apocrypha.

        • Pax Humana

          Right back at you.

  • C.P. Steinmetz

    I don’t believe the woman writing the letter is a hypocrite; she is sincerely arrogant. The responders here are beyond ethnocentric. That is, you don’t just judge others by your beliefs; you can’t fathom that there could be any other belief.
    How many of you have thought that Ms Maynard may be happy with her own beliefs – whatever they may be – and did not want someone to butt in and sincerely tell her that she needs Jesus if she wants eternal life. Why does Ms Tippetts’ need to proselytize trump Ms Maynard’s rights?
    If you have ever been around people who are dying, you will have seen the religious vultures who flock there to convert them before they die. One can only hope there is a special Hell for those who take advantage of people in extremis.

    • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

      “you don’t just judge others by your beliefs…”

      And yet you do the same. She believes that people need Jesus, whether you agree or not.

      So why don’t you butt out and live and let live.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        I did not judge her beliefs, I judged her behavior – which I consider reprehensible.
        The better question is why she didn’t just “butt out and live and let live.”

        • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

          Her actions are a part of her beliefs; there is no dichotomy. It matters not what you consider reprehensible. “You don’t just judge others by your beliefs.”

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            As an author once wrote, ‘I believe that everyone has a right to go to hell in their own fashion.’ And I don’t get upset unless they try to force their beliefs on others – which is the situation here.
            As for her actions are a part of her beliefs justifying her behavior, that logic would excuse violent racist skinheads.
            I don’t understand why you do not respond to Ms Maynard’s rights to not be subjected to the ‘come to Jesus’ pitch being more important than Ms Tippetts’ need to proselytize,

          • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

            I fail to see where she was forcing her beliefs on others, or that her actions are analogous with violent skinheads. Now that comparison is certainly a leap of logic.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            You and I disagree on the ‘forcing’ aspect.

            However, your second paragraph is very perceptive, cogent and well written.

          • https://www.facebook.com/robert.rogers.1804 robert

            Fair enough. Grace and peace…

        • Dolores Mitchell

          Why don’t you butt out? Seriously, who are you to impose your beliefs on those who do believe? That’s hypocritical don’t you think?

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            I didn’t realize that discussing situations was “imposing beliefs on those who believe.” Just how is that hypocritical, especially when that is exactly what Ms Tippetts was doing?
            My behavior, if I chose to respond to Ms Maynard would be to offer her comfort, and to affirm to her that I know what a difficult decision it is. However, as has anyone who has seen people with cancer die, I would tell her that some things are worse than death – and living with terminal cancer is one of them.

            I would also let her know that her example will be an important consideration when my time comes. Sparing my family is high on my list.

            Would you not find my behavior “good and kind, loving, peaceful,”?

    • Dolores Mitchell

      As a religious vulture, it’s better to save someone’s soul than lead it to hell like you are doing.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        I will Ignore the uncalled for personal attack. First, you only have your faith to believe you are saving their soul, and should try, even if they don’t want you to. Second, how are you so sure that your brand of Christianity is the true Christianity – enough to upset them on their death bed by telling them they must accept your view or go to hell?
        You didn’t catch that I was talking about Christians trying to convert other Christians, did you?

        • Dolores Mitchell

          I think we all caught everything. And you are are doing a personal attack on Kara Tippetts, what makes it right for you? My sister recently died of a brain tumor. It took her very fast without warning. And with God’s grace she had her last rights with her whole family around her. There is no denying that Kara Tippetts did the right thing, perhaps even God himself inspired her. God bless Kara Tippetts and I pray in Jesus’ name that Brittany Maynard is taken to his heavenly kingdom or better yet, miraculously healed.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            “Personal attack”? Did I call her a troll, heartless, bastard, leading people to hell, etc., as has been pointed at me?

            No, I criticized her behavior, not her as a person.

            You state:”There is no denying that Kara Tippetts did the right thing
            .” That is, of course, the issue under discussion, and your flat out statement does not make it so.

          • Pax Humana

            Yes, it DOES make it so, for it is a personal experience that her sister had in her life and so since you are not her sister, you have absolutely NO right whatsoever to presume, assume, or speculate how her mind should have worked, but then again, a dictator with delusions of grandeur type like yourself would never comprehend that in their mind, heart, and life now, would they not, C.C.C.P. SimplePeon?

        • Pax Humana

          So you will ignore the personal attack, yet you will attack people and call them arrogant because they view life differently than yourself? Well, not only does that clearly sound like a person that can dish it out but can not take it, but it also sounds like someone that is judgmental, arrogant, prideful, immature, hypocritical, and elitist in their lives, but then again, you know how that is in your own life, am I right, C. P. Steinmetz? Please do the people on this website a favor and go be an attention whore and a troll elsewhere or, better yet, prove to the world that you indeed have a life that is outside of the internet and your computer, that is, if you HAVE the testicular fortitude to do it, sir. You will regret starting things on here if you keep them up with myself, sir.

    • Saadgi Gupta

      Hi. “This is, you don’t judge others by your beliefs”” I think you are wrongly judging the woman in calling her arrogant. Whatever way it may be, it sounds really rude. She has a certain belief. That is in The Lord Jesus. To add up. She also ” BELIEVES” in eternal life with all her heart. She “believes” in eternal life and knows every one will see the King once we die ( she dosen’t care whatever you have to say to this “belief”). This is her belief. What good do you have to comfort or what good news do you have to tell her about her death?” That you are dying and I don’t know where will you go. Maybe no where. I don’t know” there is so much of grief in death for them because there is a still fear about what will happen to them after they die. Why emotions? Why at all anything? Nobody should care if she is dying, but they do. Because they fear a loved ones death. A very simple reason Jesus dies on the cross. Phew”! DEATH! There is nothing wrong in the woman who writes this letter to comfort her. There is just concern if she will be able to make it to for what God has created. CP (I don’t know your real name) look this no religious imposition but if you try to dig into as to why we share the Christian belief, you would have a little different view, I will pray that you will do.

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        Thank you, but your prayers will be wasted. As opposed to others, I know what will happened when I die – I die. There is not a shred of evidence to the contrary. The lesson is to lead a good life so when you die you have few regrets. And note, that I haven’t spoken about her beliefs, except as those beliefs guide her actions to try to impose her beliefs on others.

        You state: “There is nothing wrong in the woman who writes this letter to comfort her.” Obviously, I feel there is a great deal wrong. She is not following the Golden Rule – “Treat people as they wish to be treated.”

        • Laura Harding

          C.P. Steinmetz
          Believe me when I say that when Saadgi Gupta (or
          anyone else) prays for you, that prayer will never be wasted.Our Lord
          and God Jesus told us in the Sermon on the Mount found in Matthew 5, to
          pray for those that use and abuse you. Calling names is abuse. Our Lord
          also told us in Isaiah 55:11 “So shall my word be that goes forth out
          of my mouth; it shall not return unto me void, but it
          shall accomplish that which I please,and it shall prosper in the thing
          whereto I sent it.” So
          you see, it’s impossible for prayer to be wasted. Also the Golden Rule
          you refer to says Treat people the way you want to be
          treated.(paraphrased) I’ll be praying for you too.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Darkness? Really? You are so sure of your beliefs. You must have great evidence to say that.

          • Laura Harding

            Evidence ….. First I opened my eyes. After that it was simple. Looking around, Earth is so perfectly situated within our solar system that even a few degrees closer it would be to hot or a few degrees further from the sun, it would be to cold. When I look at our Universe,Earth and the very many things within it, working together to make it work, moon and tides for example.,(I could list hundreds of examples). What I see is creation. If created then there must be a creator.Of course this isn’t evidence or proof.

            I don’t know how everything works, nor can I really prove anything to
            you. But God can and does. He proves it to me when he answers my prayers. He
            proved it to me when He sent me His Holy Spirit to live within me. He proved it to me by coming to Earth as man. He proved it to me by becoming the sacrificial lamb that cleansed us from all sin. He gave me evidence in His words ,the Bible. I took note of the many prophecies and how a great many have come to pass. But best, He proved He was My creator when He compelled me to look at my own self. There I looked into a place, a hole, a yearning that no matter what I did it was still there. No amount of possessions, relationships, drugs, self help books or making comments on the internet could ever fill that hole. There was always something more, something I was missing. We all have it. We were made that way. God made us with that hole so we would turn back to him and believe.
            And I say all of this out of love. I truly hope you will see the light. The light is God and he is love. When I accepted Yeshua as Mashiach He gave me some of the best evidence so far (in the here and now). He gave me love, a love I never knew existed. And a gift of peace that’s beyond all understanding. And the promise of eternal life instead of eternal death.
            I believe God brought you to this site. Are you searching for an answer nobody can give you? He can, He will give you what you seek and what you ask for.

            Love and Peace,
            LH

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            Your first evidence – the just right earth – is a fallacy put forth by ID folk – especially the Discovery Institute – which wants to replace science with religion. The earth just right for our kind of life. However, there is life that doesn’t require oxygen, life living under tremendous pressure, with no sunlight, giant tube worms that life near volcanic vents in temperatures where we would probably melt. Imagine if one of those forms of life were intelligent, would they say that it was evidence of a creator because the conditions for their kind of life were ‘just right.’

            Then you have the problem that if there is a creator, who created the creator. I note the many prophecies people claim to have come true. They are unpersuasive – especially as the Jewish people do not think Jesus fulfilled the prophecies.

            It is nice that you can accept your beliefs and the ‘promises’ and be happy with them. As one trained in science, I must have evidence to believe – and logic. Religion gives neither.
            Unfortunately, we have strayed greatly from the original article.

          • Sherrie Lynn

            I am reading these remarks and I see people attacking each other.
            I am going to tell you what I have witnessed. I worked as a volunteer for people that had ALS.Some died bad deaths, and some did not . Some people suffered so much they said that all they wanted was the choice to die how they wished, others said they were putting it in God’s hands. Either way I respected their choices. I did not express to them my opinion. I now find myself facing serious health issues and I will make my own choices.

          • C.P. Steinmetz

            You are truly a compassionate person. This sums up my views and frustrations over this issue: “Either way I respected their choices. I did not express to them my opinion.” You and I both want to make our own choices, and, I presume, have the support of friends and loved ones. Good luck to you in your struggles.

    • Pax Humana

      Speaking of people that are arrogant and prideful, you not only wrote a book on it, but you wrote the novel on it, the epic saga series, atlas, dictionary, thesaurus, gazetteer, index, reference book series, AND encyclopedia on the matter, C.P. Steinmetz!

    • Pax Humana

      You will be one of the first people to go into that place yourself, C.P. Steinmetz. The concept of irony will be lost upon you, even at the point of death, but then again, a human servant, a hybrid, or a demonic creature of Lucifer and his army are all expected to be in that state of mind in their lives anyway.

  • Chuck Wyss

    Two views of a very similar problem. I will not judge either. I do know that watching my dad die last week was not beautiful in any way, despite his being a christian. I will do my best to make my last days as easy as possible for my family. My God understands.

  • C.P. Steinmetz

    Well, Mr/Ms Pax Humana. Most everyone here has discussed with at least some civility and attempt to defend their point of view. Your stellar contributions have been almost nothing but personal attacks. Feel better now?

    Who asked for your atheist/agnostic/evolution/humanism/hedonism/etc. proselytizing on this website, Mr. Hypocrisy?

    it also sounds like someone that is judgmental, arrogant, prideful, immature, hypocritical, and elitist in their lives, but then again, you know how that is in your own life, am I right, C. P. Steinmetz? Please do the people on this website a favor and go be an attention whore and a troll elsewhere or, better yet, prove to the world that you indeed have a life that is outside of the internet and your computer, that is, if you HAVE the testicular fortitude to do it, sir. You will regret starting things on here if you keep them up with myself, sir.

    I get it; you are a legend in your own mind – with a thesaurus. I am curious as to how I am going to regret “‘starting things on here if you keep them up with myself.”[sic]

    Speaking of people that are arrogant and prideful, you not only wrote a book on it, but you wrote the novel on it, the epic saga series, atlas, dictionary, thesaurus, gazetteer, index, reference book series, AND encyclopedia on the matter, C.P. Steinmetz!..

    Apparently, I am a very prolific writer.

    Who asked for your atheist/agnostic/evolution/humanism/hedonism/etc. proselytizing on this website, Mr. Hypocrisy?

    Pax Humana to Evolution is a fact
    …and yet you are promoting a bunch of delusional nonsense AND you are trying to nickel and dime the taxpayers into paying for your grand pyramid scheme…ironic, is it not, Evolution is a bunch of male bovine excrement?

    …and boo for your poor attempt at sarcasm and for your attention whoring instead of having a real social life instead of being a basement dwelling troll, NoCommonSenseandIntelligence4U..

    • Pax Humana

      Aw, are you mad because I exposed you for making personal attacks yourself on other people on this website? You can dish it out, but you can not take it, can you, whiny little libtard? Well, you can get used to it because I will drive you so insane that even Cthulhu would seem like a rank amateur in comparison to myself, so you have one of two choices in your life. You can actually get a life that is actually worth something by actually taking my words to heart and to learn these things that are called, gasp, LOGIC, REASON, RATIONALITY, CRITICAL THINKING, READING COMPREHENSION, INTELLIGENCE, and COMMON SENSE into your mind, heart, and life, or you can prove that you are nothing more than a basement dwelling troll with an inability to live in the real world and to actually have something that is worthwhile to contribute to the human race. Turnabout is fair play, C.P. Steinmetz, you traitor to TRUE Judaism and TRUE Christianity!