Kirk Cameron’s ‘Saving Christmas’ Film Won’t Be Saved from Lowest Rating Ever in IMDB

Cameron“Saving Christmas,” a film-based campaign from actor and evangelist Kirk Cameron that seeks to convince Christians that some Christmas traditions, such as Santa Claus and Christmas trees, aren’t pagan and have a biblical basis for their observance, has received the lowest rating ever in Internet Movie Database (IMDB) history.

Although the movie has grossed $2.2 million at the box office and showed for a fourth week at 200 theaters nationwide, those rating the film have given it low marks, causing “Saving Christmas” to fall to the very bottom of IMDB’s “Bottom 100” chart. After being scored by over 4,000 users, the film received a 1.5 out of five stars, a mark that is lower than any other in movie history.

As Cameron received a zero on Rotten Tomato’s “tomato meter,” and also only received a 32 percent audience score, in an effort to boost his ratings, the “Growing Pains” and “Left Behind” star called upon his social media followers in recent weeks to help his ratings. But the scores remained low.

While he has received national support for the film, which allowed it open in 10o new theaters last week, Cameron has also received opposition from both atheists who desire for God to be removed from society, as well as Christians who believe that he holiday should be avoided because of its pagan customs and its institution by the Roman Catholic Church. It is the latter of which that Cameron seeks to convert with “Saving Christmas.”

In the movie, actor Darren Doane plays Cameron’s brother-in-law Christian, who believes that Christmas traditions are pagan and often materialistic and should therefore be avoided. During the film, Cameron seeks to win Christian over to his side, and eventually succeeds in doing so. Christian then slides into a pile of presents and hops up on Santa’s lap, since Cameron has now convinced him that such traditions were permissible for Bible-believing Christians.

As previously reported, in a video clip released last month entitled “Do You Love Santa Claus,” Cameron stated that “maybe someone like Santa Claus is actually on our team.” He then released a second video providing the history of the figure of Santa Claus, whom he characterized as a “devout Christian.”

“[T]hey even ‘sainted’ him—that’s why we call him St. Nicholas,” he said, although not mentioning that the “they” is the leadership of the Roman Catholic religion. “He became legendary in his time and beyond his time. He became larger than life and reached mythic proportions.”

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Cameron told hundreds of students at Liberty University recently that the use of Santa Claus, who had developed from the person of St. Nicholas, was therefore not so bad after all.

“So the guy that many of us think is distracting from the birth of the Christ child, is really the defender of the faith you and I want to be,” he asserted. “So now that you know who the real Santa Claus is, you want to take a picture with him at the mall this Christmas? I do.”

Reviewers have had a variety of opinions about the film, with some stating that the best part of the movie is Cameron’s heart for the gospel.

“He knows how to transition average conversations into spiritual conversations that present the gospel,” wrote Carl Kerby of Apolomedia. “While the viewer may not agree with everything he has to say, he is certainly passionate about sharing his faith, and that is commendable.”

But others expressed concern about some of the assertions Cameron made in the movie, and the manner in which he sought to present his arguments.

“Cameron’s lectures reek of condescension,” wrote Chris Williams, movie reviewer for the Advisor and Source in Michigan. “Cameron poo-poos any of Christian’s concerns and utters a series of ‘here’s why you’re wrong’ declarations.”

“What are they going to do next?” Cameron asks in the film. “Tell us hot chocolate is bad? That the Druids invented it?”

Although those who have noted Cameron’s low ratings state that atheists are likely “rejoicing at the critical response to the movie (and no doubt contributing to it),” reviewers opine that it wasn’t Cameron’s Christianity that was the problem with the film, but his forced delivery in attempting to defend the holiday’s traditions.

“Had ‘Saving Christmas’ run any longer, Cameron would no doubt have found a way to find the divinity in Frosty, Rudolph, the Grinch, peppermint bark, the Elf on the Shelf, [and] frosted cranberry hand soap,” wrote Alonso Duralde of The Wrap.

“He’s made a movie to say, ‘Stop complaining about something I like,’” said Williams. “‘Saving Christmas’ is a self-indulgent mess that ignores legitimate concerns in favor of saying, ‘Don’t spoil my party.’ Instead of pausing for soul-searching or real discussion, it gives us a smarmy lecturer justifying his position and ignoring any complaints.”


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  • 4everlife

    I know this comment has absolutely nothing to do with the article featured, but let us bless the Lord this Christmas with a gift to win as many souls to Him as we can.
    It does not matter whether Jesus’ birth is celebrated in this fallen world – He is eternal, having no beginning or ending date (John 1:1-14).
    It does not matter whether a Christmas tree is recognized (see Jeremiah 10, please).
    When we stand before God, I do not think He will ask us, “Did you celebrate My Son’s birthday, December 25?”
    I think the question will be asked that day, “Did you share with anyone who I AM?”

    • Neiman

      No my friend, there will be no questions asked. Either one is part of the Body of Christ or they are not. If they are, there is no judgment, no condemnation and no questions. Jesus answered them all. For the Lost, they will know they are lost before they see God and then it is only a matter of judgment as to the severity of their sins and if any good works moderate their torments.

      • 4everlife

        I agree with your comments wholeheartedly. Just using a little satire to convey the point that we believers in Jesus sometimes prioritize trivial matters such as whether or not someone says “Merry Christmas” or whether or not a Christmas tree is placed in a shopping center. In these last of the last days, we should be more concerned about souls for the Kingdom of God.
        Numbers 6:24-26

  • BeWhoYouAre

    “Saving Christmas,” a film-based campaign from actor and evangelist Kirk
    Cameron that seeks to convince Christians that some Christmas
    traditions, such as Santa Claus and Christmas trees, aren’t pagan and
    have a biblical basis for their observance…”

    Nice objective news reporting there. The vast majority of Christians celebrate Christmas and not for pagan reasons.

    • bowie1

      Santa Claus may be inspired by a philanthropist by the name of St. Nicholas who was known to be generous to the poor. Of course his image has changed since that time with the help of the department stores. He has different names and home addresses in different cultures but it is about a character who wants to give toys to the world’s kids.

    • railhead

      This site doesn’t claim to be objective….it claims to be “news from an uncompromising Biblical worldview”. Just saying…..

      • BeWhoYouAre

        That would explain a lot.

    • Demopublicrat

      Not even if pagan rituals are followed, right?

      • BeWhoYouAre

        Not even then.

        • Demopublicrat

          So if I ignorantly worship Satan, it’s all ok. Good to know.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Worshiping Satan without realizing that you are? How does that work?

          • Demopublicrat

            By following pagan rituals.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Pagan rituals. Like celebrating the birth of Christ? Please enlighten me. This is very interesting.

          • Demopublicrat

            What does December 25th have to do with the birth of Christ? What does the pagan tree have to do with the birth of Christ?

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Given that we don’t know the exact date of His birth, what date would you LIKE us to celebrate it?

            Here’s a mind-blowing concept for you: The Christmas tree is a decoration and it looks nice.

          • Demopublicrat

            Given 12/25 is the already the date of a pagan holiday, I would say pick a different one, one derived by using clues from scripture, not blend it with the existing pagan rituals.

            Here’s a mind-blowing concept for you: Read the Bible – “Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
            2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
            3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
            4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.” Jeremiah 10:1-4

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Here’s another concept for you. Any date you pick is going to coincide with some other holiday most likely. And it’s not like you can’t have two major events, festivals, holidays, whatever on the same day. Who cares?

            But this is the most baffling thing of all – if we have never even HEARD of the pagan holiday that Dec. 25th supposedly coincides with, how can we be possibly celebrating it?

            Can you celebrate a holiday accidentally?
            Can you celebrate something you’ve never heard of?
            Can you celebrate something by mistake?

            If you answered “yes” to any of those questions, then you are utterly hopeless as a human being. Because to answer “yes” to any of those questions belies a stupidity I’ve never in my life encountered before.

          • Demopublicrat

            “Here’s another concept for you. Any date you pick is going to coincide with some other holiday most likely.” 12/25 was on purpose, there are plenty of other dates closer to biblical clues without pagan influence.

            “if we have never even HEARD of the pagan holiday that Dec. 25th supposedly coincides with, how can we be possibly celebrating it?” Jeremiah 10 ring any bells?

            Can you celebrate a holiday with pagan rituals that are specifically mentioned in the Bible and claim ignorance? To answer “yes” to this question belies a stupidity I’ve never in my life encountered before.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            “12/25 was on purpose, there are plenty of other dates closer to biblical clues without pagan influence.”

            I don’t buy into fundamentalist conspiracy theories.

            “Jeremiah 10 ring any bells?”

            Does Jeremiah know what I’m celebrating? Can he get inside my head and know? Can you? Can anyone? Why do you always think you know better than other people what their intentions are?

            “Can you celebrate a holiday with pagan rituals that are specifically mentioned in the Bible and claim ignorance? To answer “yes” to this question belies a stupidity I’ve never in my life encountered before.”

            I don’t celebrate pagan rituals. I celebrate the birth of Christ. If you don’t believe that, then you’re the one with the problem.

          • Demopublicrat

            “Does Jeremiah know what I’m celebrating?” God does, those were his words, words that were written before you chose paganism, thus giving you no excuse.

            “I don’t celebrate pagan rituals.” Have a tree up in your house? “If you don’t believe that, then you’re the one with the problem.” The problem isn’t mine.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            If God knows what I’m celebrating then there IS no issue. He knows I’m celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ and if I happen to have a Christmas tree in my house He isn’t going to care. It looks nice. That’s all it has to do.

            Once again, you fundamentalists need reminders constantly that a) you aren’t God and b) you cannot guess what is in people’s hearts. The only way to know that is to ask them.

          • Demopublicrat

            Once again you pagan mary-worshipers think God was kidding.

            Once again, you mary-worshipers need reminders constantly that a) you aren’t God and neither is mary and b) you don’t have to guess what is in people’s hearts when their actions scream so loudly their denials can’t be heard.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I am neither pagan nor a Mary worshipper, I just don’t tell other people what they believe rather than ask them, accuse them of celebrating pagan holidays they have never even heard of, if that’s how you do things in the Ku Klux Klan then I’m happy for you, but you should really stop pretending you’re a Christian or have even the vaguest understanding of the Bible.

          • Demopublicrat

            If I were to visit Giants Stadium and I saw a bunch of guys tossing around an oblong ball, I really don’t think I would have to ask to know what they are doing. When I see a bunch of people in a shrine to mary, bowing and kissing a graven mary image, I really don’t need to ask about that either – it’s painfully obvious. You should really stop pretending you’re a Christian or have even the vaguest understanding of the Bible.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            But that’s just the point, you DON’T know. In fact, if that’s what you think is going on, you ARE wrong – you’ve been given many, many links direct to Catholic sites – the horse’s mouth – but prefer to just take Jack Chick and Dave Hunt’s word for it, and they are just as blind, hateful and misled as you are. But why even look in those places? Talk to Catholics directly. But of course you won’t do that, because you prefer being a hateful clueless fathead. None of which has anything to do with the matter at hand, which is that Christmas is bring celebrated by the vast, vast majority of Christians who wish to celebrate the birth of Christ, and not some vague, ancient, imaginary pagan holiday that no one’s ever heard of. But again, I guess you have the magical ability to read into the hearts of billions of people you have never met and know them better than they know themselves.

          • http://247worldradio.com Eric Joseph Rodriguez

            Please give me book chapter and verse from the King James Bible where Jesus celebrated his birthday, or told his followers to do it. What if God is not pleased by things men invent? What if he knows better as to how he wants to be worshipped. Do you think that “celebrating Jesus’ birthday” is worship? If so, what book chapter and verse of the King James Bible do you use to support that? If you never have, read the entire King James Bible and when you get to the end, please tell me whether or not you can come to the conclusion that goes like this, “Yeah, God doesn’t really care how we worship him. As long as, you know, it feels good to us. So what if it’s how the heathen worship their devils. SO what if Rome adopted it and “christianized” it, in order to conquer more people with head games and eccumenicism, and bad theology. So what if God never gave us any endorsement to be involved with these things. So what. We’ll do it anyway because it makes us feel good, and besides, our relatives would get angry at us if we spoke against it.” If that’s what most protestant and baptist “christian churches” do this time of year, it’s NO WONDER we’re under such national judgment. Duh. Everyone is a fake and cares most about what makes them happy. Rather than asking the LORD if he wants us to celebrate the birth of his Son. Answer: “18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” Matthew 28:18-20. SHow me where Jesus Christ told his followers to observe his birth, and then maybe you’ll have an argument. I’d rather serve and worship Jesus according to what Jesus said, rather than according to what the ungodly, unholy sinful man of sin the pope had to say. In Romanism it’s called a day of obligation. You check it out. Dec 25th is a day of obligation. Totally made up by men. I’m reminded of some things that Jesus said about the vain traditions of men. Yes, that’s right, he did have quite a bit to say about that didn’t he? Oh yes.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            “Please give me book chapter and verse from the King James Bible where Jesus celebrated his birthday, or told his followers to do it”

            I love it when fundamentalists try to play this card. This is a LOGICAL FALLACY called “argument from silence.” What you are doing is saying that because it’s not in the Bible, it must therefore be frowned upon, and here’s why that makes no sense – your computer you’re typing on now, is that in the Bible? How about your TV? Here’s something interesting, even the word BIBLE isn’t in the Bible. Guess the Bible must be bad then, right? I mean, using your logic?

            You must never, never start a sentence with “Where in the Bible does it say we should…” because you’ve shot yourself in the foot right out of the gate. You’ve gone one further though and wanted to know specifically in the King James Bible where it says it! The answer is the same, if the Bible is silent on a matter you cannot use it to justify your own disapproval.

          • William Edward Harris Jr.

            So true, there is enough in it to ponder without speculating on what is not.

          • railhead

            I can understand your sentiments, sir, but we have far greater battles than this in this day and age. Christmas is a holiday, to me that falls under Romans 14. I know some Christians that are red hot, KJV only soul winners that also celebrate Christmas and have a tree. Proverbs 11:30 says “he that winneth souls is wise”. So there are people that are wise who celebrate Christmas. I have grappled with Christmas virtually since I got saved 20 years ago.
            I went without and now do celebrate, but leave out Santa Claus, images, and other things expressly forbidden by scripture. It was tough enough to get grandparents over the idea of no Santa Claus, believe me.

          • Noreen L

            Hahaha….I would say use every opportunity to celebrate the birth of our Savior…even if not everyone does. Take EVERY opportunity to show our JOY to the WORLD. As long as there are Christmas carols being sung by the fire, I’M IN!!! 🙂

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Exactly Noreen.

  • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

    Article; schmarticle. At it’s core, Christmas is Christian holiday. So, if one is not a Christian, why does one celebrate Christmas?

    And for those who aren’t Christian, they should refuse that holiday pay. You know, so as not to be hypocrites….

    • Demopublicrat

      “Christmas” is a pagan holiday absorbed by the pagan RCC with a Christian name slapped on it.

      • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

        Are you obtuse or simply being antagonistic?

        • Demopublicrat

          Simply stating the truth.

          • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

            There’s no truth in what you declare, only ignorance. Try again.

          • Demopublicrat

            Pull your head out of the pope’s rear and look for yourself, it’s true.

          • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

            That’s funny thing to say to a hard oak Baptist, you anti-religious bigot.

          • Demopublicrat

            A hard oak Baptist should know better.

          • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

            And an anti-religious bigot is too ignorant to know much.

          • Demopublicrat

            Brilliant statement… or whatever.

          • Gaunt Dusk

            Way to be overly opinionated. He’s not lying. The holiday does in fact have pagan origins. In ancient rome, christmas was immensely popular and then the leader in charge said “we’re all converting to christianity” (which was part of how christanity became so immensely well spread) but the people didn’t want to give up their holidays so, rather than change them they just said that the holidays were now christian and made up an explanation as to why.
            This has nothing to do with being an anti-religious bigot (way to show you’re made of tough stuff, just attack the person instead of his argument) it has to do with history. But just because this is all the case doesn’t make it anti-religious to point it out. My father, who’s way more out there on the christianity spectrum than I could ever be, acknowledges this was a pagan holiday originally. He just doesn’t mind and when people point this fact out he doesn’t call them a bigot or make assumptions about them like YOU just did.
            Please keep in mind I’m tempering my response to be as cogent and polite as possible.

          • BarkingDawg

            Are you kidding? All the major christian holidays are simply repackaged pagan feasts

          • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

            You err because words mean things. It’s not ‘odinmas’ , or ‘fertilemas’ or even ‘solsticemas’. It’s Christmas, from middle English ‘Christemasse’, from Latin ‘Christ Mass.’

            The pagans can call their festivals whatever, and observe them however, but it’s not Christmas.

            Look up the term ‘redemption,’ then try again with something more original.

    • http://kwellsphoto.com/ Kevin Wells

      That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

      • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

        Huh?

    • Sterling Ericsson

      Like how hanging stockings has to do with putting a boot on the fireplace with carrots in it to feed Odin’s horse so Odin will leave candy in return?

      Or how mistletoe is a sign of fertility from Druidic beliefs, as it comes from the oak tree?

      All so very Christian.

      • http://www.locomotivebreath1901.blogspot.com/ locomotivebreath1901

        You err. It’s not ‘odinmas’ , or ‘fertilemas’ or even ‘solsticemas’. It’s Christmas, from middle English ‘Christemasse’, from Latin ‘Christ Mass’. Words mean things. You compound your error by mistaking societal accoutrements (mistletoe, etc) with a cultural foundation (baby in a manager is Lord God Almighty incarnate) , whose anniversary of birth on earth even changed the way the world counts the years. Try again.

  • pjwung

    My family celebrates Christmas to declare Alleluia for the birth of the God-man Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Yes, a Christmas tree is nice and we don’t really care if Jesus was not born on Dec. 25th. It is the fact that, yes, He was born and because of that believers will live on without end after this life has been long gone. But mostly we celebrate Christmas because we love Him, Emmanuel, who was sent into this world to redeem fallen mankind regardless of all the nay sayers, atheists, cultic religions, Satanists and all of those who reject our Lord as the King of Kings and the almighty Son of God the Father. That is the only reason that we celebrate Christmas as a family. If we did not believe these events and Biblical records to be true – we would have no interest in celebrating a fraudulent and commercial holiday. However, since we have bet our life upon the truth of these Biblical teachings we rejoice and revel in Christmas and always will regardless of what anyone, anywhere will say to the contrary.

  • Mr Dave

    Good grief people, its just a movie. You are all making a mountain out of a mole hill!

    • William Edward Harris Jr.

      You are so right, I personally love the other movies that Kirk has done. He is someone I loved in Fireproof.

  • TheBBP

    I don’t think that he should have gone on a campaign to get a “Fresh” rating at Rotten Tomatoes, but what was done here at IMDB is clearly a personal attack against him and his faith.

    • William Edward Harris Jr.

      I am afraid he asked for the low rating, but that being said, he lives to fight another day, Cameron that is.

    • http://kwellsphoto.com/ Kevin Wells

      Critics seem to disagree.

    • BarkingDawg

      no, it is an attack on his total lack of talent.

  • Lisa

    I stopped celebrating christmas 6 years ago because I don’t believe it’s the day of Christs birth, the Bible doesn’t tell us the day, so I wonder why we celebrate a birthday on a specific day when we don’t know the actual day? Also why a tree? Does that have anything to do with being a Christian? I don’t think it does, so we say it’s a Christian holiday because we mention the name of Jesus? I think the holiday is just another way of diluting Christianity. It is important that Jesus was born but not nearly as important as his dying for our sins. That’s the good news-for God so loved the world that He sent His only begotten son that whosoever believeth on Him will not perish but have everlasting life! I won’t be surprised when Mr. Cameron calls for us all to unite with Rome, he seems to have lost his way.

    • http://247worldradio.com Eric Joseph Rodriguez

      exactly. couldn’t have said it any better myself. exactly spot on.

      ” I think the holiday is just another way of diluting Christianity.” exactly. Everything form easter (ishtar) to xmass to halloween (all saints day) and all that repackaged heathen garbage was never thrown away. Instead of getting rid of it, Rome decided to just put it all into a new plastic bag, under different names, and so forth. Re-branding it as “christian”. Just learn what the heathens are doing religiously, and then copy-cat it with names and incidents (taken out of context) from the scripture, and then those heathen will be friends with Romanism. That’s all they’ve ever done. Century after century. Massive PR campaign, rather than purity in obedience to the word of God. Add to that the Jesuit led counter-reformation beginning in the 1540’s and continuing to the present day. The doctrines of Rome, and various statements made throughout the years CLEARLY elucidate that the POPE ought to have spiritual and temporal control of all the governments of the earth. This is satanic. World government is papal. That’s what they had going strong during the dark ages for 1000 years or so.

      that’s what they want to GET BACK. That’s the point of the last 500 years. The jesuits and their council of trent, waging wars, insurrections, assassinations etc in order to restore the pope’s control of the whole world. The protestant reformation broke that power in the 1500’s. Now all the churches are no longer on the LORD’s side, but are back to Rome. The Jesuits are WINNING. Incase anyone wants me to say it again, wake up, the JESUITS ARE WINNING. While you enjoy your xMASS tree, just understand that you are HELPING THE JESUITS CONQUER AMERICA. Xmass is just one more tool at their disposal to win protestants and baptists back to that whore at ROME. Incase I need to say it again, THE JESUITS ARE WINNING. That’s where all the political intrigue is coming from. They’re going to do the same thing to America in the 21st century that they did to Europe in the 20th century. (world wars, death, concentration camps etc.) And God will PERMIT IT because the vast majority of “christians” in AMERICA would NOT stand against SINS like x MASS. Churches in america are groomed, in one way or another, to be soft on Rome, to view Rome as an ally, or just another denomination of Christianity. WAKE UP WAKE UP. 68 MILLION murdered during the inquisition is NOT of God. bringing hitler, stalin, franco, mussilini, FDR and auschwitz into existence is NOT of God. it is of SATAN, and of ROME. True history dear reader, you check it out. Also look into your pastor’s 501c3 tax exempt, incorporated church and ask why he’ll never talk about political candidates or legislation. SPECIFICALLY from the pulpit WITH POWER as he ought to. Withold the salt and light, and the MEAT GOES FOUL. That’s what’s happened in AMERICA. America is FOUL. And the church’s complicity in x MASS is just further evidence that America is laodicean at best, and just flat heathen at worst. Pretending to be Godly and full of the Spirit etc. Read 50 YEARS IN THE CHURCH OF ROME. Try to buy an older copy, like the one in the early 1960’s, or if you can find a copy, buy the original, published in 1888. They knew back then that ROME was poised to CONQUER America. AND ROME HAS SUCCEEDED. and the protestant and baptist churches do their part every single day to help out. It’s so sad to watch people try to have a merry mass of Christ as they are really just facilitating ROME’s conquest of America. Do we despise liberty, freedom of speech, freedom of press, private wealth, gun rights, freedom to assemble, etc? Those would NEVER HAVE HAPPENED were it not for the protestant reformation and about 250 years of hard fighting, hard dying at the hands of ROMAN PAPAL tyranny, and hard praying to the Lord. And today, Kirk Cameron persuades us to just flush all that down the toilet by siding with ROMAN CATHOLIC feast days. We deserve Obama!! Mainstream media is run by Jesuits. Foxnews is PapalNews. Alternative media doesn’t touch the Jesuits or Knights of Malta. Glenn Beck says we’re all catholics now. O’Reilly, Hannity, Ingraham they’re good catholics, and they’re looking out for you! yeah right. My ally is not the republican catholic party, or the democrat catholic party. My ally is the Lord. Another good book is Washington in the lap of Rome, and Vatican’s Billions, and Romanism menace to the nations, and Footprints of the Jesuits, and a host of other books. Better yet, just buy Vatican Assassins 3 from Eric Jon Phelps at 247worldradio.com FOlks need to wake up and SMELL THE JESUIT TYRANNY real quick. Jesuit educated speaker of the house appointed Jesuit to be house chaplain. Joe Biden 2 Jesuit degrees. John Roberts Knight of Malta. Joint Chiefs of Staff, heads of depts under Obama, all staffed by knights of malta or skull and bones, or shriner masons, or knights of columbus, all loyal to the Jesuits and the Black Pope. That’s how the world works. Lord bless you.

  • railhead

    I haven’t seen the movie, but honestly I don’t watch any hollywood movies anymore, so I would make no exception here. The comment about it being a “self-indulgent mess” of “don’t rain on my parade” seems to be in line with my thoughts just based on my own personal thoughts about Cameron.
    I think most REAL Christians have grappled with a lot “Christian” traditions that are found to be not so Christian in light of the Bible and the Holy Spirit. Christmas screams covetousness these days, with shopping and money the number one concerns of most everyone who celebrates. Then there are the issues of lying to children about Santa Claus, the glorification of Santa Claus to a level that eclipses Jesus Christ, nativity scenes that have images of God and angels, expressly forbidden in scripture, on and on.
    But I think the Bible kind of leaves this under the category of those who celebrate certain days and those who don’t being fully persuaded in their own minds (Rom. 14:5), and not being judged for their beliefs. Obviously certain aspects of Christmas are wrong, where traditions go against the Bible. But as far as whether someone celebrates or not, it’s not Kirk Cameron’s business, or mine.

    • William Edward Harris Jr.

      My wife and I saw the movie. I was glad when it was over, not because of it’s central message but bad acting and music that did not suit my taste. I love Kirk Cameron because of his faith in GOD through JESUS. This just happen to be an attempt that fell short. I forgive his miscue and look forward to his next venture.

      • railhead

        Honestly, I went to his website and couldn’t find a gospel presentation anywhere. To me that says a lot. He seems very self-important to me, and that’s not a very Christlike trait. I know his best buddy Ray Comfort preaches a works based salvation, which breeds or feeds the fixation on self.

        • William Edward Harris Jr.

          That is not true, he does not preach a works based salvation. Go the “Way of the Master” and you will see.

  • Demopublicrat

    Historically speaking, there’s not much we really know about Nicholas. Though he’s one of the most popular saints in the Greek and Latin churches, his existence isn’t attested by any historical document. All we can say is that he was probably the bishop of Myra (near modern Finike, Turkey) sometime in the 300s.

    • Magister_militum_praesentalis

      There are frescoes from ancient churches that depict St. Nicholas confessing the consubstantial Trinity and literally smacking down the heretical Arian opposition.

      • Demopublicrat

        My son has pictures of SpongeBob in his room catching jellyfish.

        • Magister_militum_praesentalis

          I’m sorry.

          • Demopublicrat

            For what?

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            That you felt Sponge Bob posters were relevant to my point.

          • Demopublicrat

            Relevant AS your point.

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            Wrong. You made an unsubstantiated statement about the extent of support in historical evidence for the existence of St. Nicholas of Myra. I mentioned a concrete example of evidence that he was known to be a real person and what he did that is of historical note.

          • Demopublicrat

            Actually it was a fresco example, and if you look you can find frescos of many things, things like unicorns and Pegasus.

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            Here is an inset of St. Nicholas striking Arius from a fresco in a monastery in Asia Minor.

            http://www.stnicholascenter.org/media/images/l/livius-arius.jpg

          • Demopublicrat

            Here is SpongeBob catching jellyfish in Bikini Bottom.

        • William Edward Harris Jr.

          Too bad, guess you will regret that 10 or 15 years down the road.

          • Demopublicrat

            Doubt it.

  • Noreen L

    Christmas is a holiday or a holyday, depending upon the reason you want to celebrate the season. Christmas is for everyone! I personally love to celebrate it as both….but then, every day should be a holy day for Christians!

  • Sterling Ericsson

    Actually, more important than the user reviews, the official news reviews for the film all panned it. It has an official 0 rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Which is actually quite an achievement.