Mississippi Lawmakers Propose Bills to Make Bible State Book

Bible III pdJACKSON, Miss. — Three Mississippi lawmakers have proposed bills to make the Bible the state book.

Rep. Tracy Arnold (R-Boonville), a non-denominational pastor, recently introduced a proposal in the House to recognize the value of the Scriptures, and Rep. Tom Miles (D-Forest) and Michael Evans (D-Preston), both Baptists, introduced a similar bill in the Senate.

“Me and my constituents, we were talking about it and one of them made a comment that people ought to start reading the Bible,” Evans told AL.com.

“The Bible provides a good role model on how to treat people,” Miles added to the Associated Press. “They could read in there about love and compassion.”

Mississippi was rated the most religious state in the nation according to a recent poll, with 59 percent identifying themselves as being religious. While the teddy bear has been recognized as the state bear, square dancing as the state folk dance and milk as the state beverage, no publication has yet been regarded as the state book.

Although some have been supportive of the concept, others have expressed opposition. Writer Jimmie Gates of the Clarion Ledger said that while he reads the Bible and carries it with him to church, he feels that “[t]here are a lot more pressing issues in Mississippi than creating a law to name the Bible as the state’s official book.”

“It may be a worthy idea that people want the good book as the state official book, but wouldn’t it be better for our legislators to leave the book of religion to religion?” he recently wrote in an online piece for the publication. “It’s sort of like someone wanting to dictate their religion to others.”

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As previously reported, Rep. Thomas Carmody (R-Shreveport) proposed a bill last year to make the Bible the state book of Louisiana.

“The Bible was their main inspiration along with our forefathers—Washington and all of them,” he stated. “They looked to it for their inspiration for our country. They called upon God to help us.”

But Carmody later withdrew the proposal, advising that he would not be moving forward with the bill due to assertions that the legislation was becoming a distraction from “more important debates,” such as the state budget.

In 2012, lawmakers in Pennsylvania unanimously passed a resolution that declared a “Year of the Bible.” The resolution stated that not only has the Bible been an important part of America’s history, but that in difficult times such as the present, there is a “national need to study and apply the teachings of the Holy Scriptures.”

President Ronald Reagan made 1983 the national “Year of the Bible.”

“Many of our greatest national leaders—among them Presidents Washington, Jackson, Lincoln, and Wilson—have recognized the influence of the Bible on our country’s development,” Reagan stated. “The plainspoken Andrew Jackson referred to the Bible as no less than ‘the rock on which our Republic rests.’”

“Today our beloved America and, indeed, the world, is facing a decade of enormous challenge,” he continued. “There could be no more fitting moment than now to reflect with gratitude, humility, and urgency upon the wisdom revealed to us in the writing that Abraham Lincoln called ‘the best gift God has ever given to man . . . But for [without] it we could not know right from wrong.”’


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  • Okereke Kelechi Collins

    it is a good idea, a better one if passed into law, considering how much our society have deteriorated in values and respect for lives and property of recent

    • Terry Roll

      Everything is on social media or 24/7 news. You just see it more.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      It doesn’t bother you that this “good idea” is possibly the most blatantly unconstitutional bill proposed all year? Not only will it not be a “better idea” if passed into law, it can’t be.

  • davidreilly7

    Yes it will help to ensure that the high
    standards of biblical morality be upheld: including genocide, slavery, and the death penalty for collecting sticks on the Sabbath or for laughing at a bald Prophet.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      You are an a-theist, David: you don’t get to assert objective moral values and duties here. You cannot ground that any of the things you listed here are morally wrong, in an objective sense, under a-theism. And, your “pope” and “cardinals” agree with me here: https://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/an-atheist-explains-the-real-consequences-of-adopting-an-atheistic-worldview/
      Do please quit stealing from God by pronouncing objective moral claims. You are stuck with Darwinism, and under your worldview, rape, slavery, murder, etc are all perfectly acceptable. Ever seen a lion take out a gazelle?

      (PS. Good to see you again, Power Lifter – God bless! :-))

      • davidreilly7

        Respectfully disagree. Societal norms. Common sense. Evolution is not always about the individual. There is also evolutionary advantage in altruism.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          OK, these are great points you make, David. Let me try to add another dumbbell – if i can just…pick…it…up. There, another 10 pounds! 🙂 On your awesome wife example:

          1. How does “love” arise on naturalistic a-theism, that is, from molecules or DNA? (I am assuming that you mean more than the biological urge to reproduce here, that you mean “love” as a commitment. Seems like there is plenty of adultery in the animal kingdom, no?)
          2. How does the desire to not want to spiritually (?) hurt her arise on naturalistic a-theism? Shouldn’t that take a back seat to the greater good of your reproducing with as many women as possible?
          3. BTW, if it’s not too personal, is your wife a-theist or theist?

          Also, on your denominational differences, do you acknowledge common essentials to the faith as existing across denominations – belief in God, Christ as deity, sinful man in need of redemption, necessary faith, Bodily Resurrection – that sort of thing? (Nicene Creed – type stuff?) And, in terms of moral absolutes, would you agree that all denominations assert that Jesus’ Greatest Commandment (and second like it) really are the highest priorities, standard-wise? I mean, outside of the obvious cults – just underneath the numerous Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox denominations, aren’t these things consistently affirmed, even when surely not consistently lived out? (My wife is Catholic. I am Jesus freak. Just sharing. :-))

          Thanks for being so nice and not kicking sand in my face, David! 🙂

          • davidreilly7

            Will get back to you on these. Wife is a non-practicing Anglican. She doesn’t like my Atheism but we get along fine. Interesting that your wife is a Catholic.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Tell your wife that I did a little time, while growing up, in the Episcopal Church, back in the days when it was more conservative Anglican. How long have you two been married, if not too personal? Does she work? My wife is a Nursing Director.

            My wife and I have been married 32 years. She was nominal Catholic until I converted, but now she is getting into the Bible, missions, and such. She is a saint, in the sense that she put up with a pretty ugly and stressful personality in me BC.

          • davidreilly7

            This is my second marriage. (My first marriage unravelled with my departure from the faith.) 16 years now. No children though. She runs the business, which keeps me free to focus on the technical.

            I wanted to comment on your point about evolution but can’t find it. Sorry. Are you YEC or OEC? I assume that you are not a theistic evolutionist (or evolutionary creationist).

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I’m sorry about your first marriage, David, but congrats on the second! How difficult is it to have your wife involved in the business? I did not do that, because I was afraid it might have negative effects on the marriage, but if I ever started another one (why, I don’t know?!?) then I would like it to be something we both could be involved in, as we are recent empty-nesters. I apologize in advance if I am prying too much with my questions.

            I bounce back on YEC and OEC. I respect both positions, but I do think that there is something really weird about the “time” concept. I was strongly OEC when I became a Christian and I did do the obvious exponential calculation to verify that the first 6 days of Genesis were fully consistent with a 16 billion (approx) year old universe, and supposed evolutionary milestones. I’m not a fan of theistic evolution – it seems to be trying to put the cart before the horse. But, it is interesting to read what they have to say.

            I do see some circular arguments being used in rock and fossil dating, but none of that bothers me like some of the holes I see in the processes of Darwinism (pre-Cambrian explosion of life, lack of transitionary forms, which we should be literally wading in were it true, etc). I quote Big Bang all the time, and certainly believe that with the BGV Theorem, plus a number of specified cosmological principles, all secular, that the second premise of Kalam is more than plausibly true. I don’t have problems with people, like yourself, attacking that premise, but I do think it’s weird to go after premise 1, and I cannot imagine an engineer doing so. Kind of like working and living in two entirely different universes at the same time. 🙂 I had one guy who conceded Premise 2 but shout back at me “Prove the physics of nothing, prove the physics of nothing!” All I could reply with was ” QED.” 🙂 Bless you!

          • davidreilly7

            Sorry for the delay. I’m working back to respond to the older comments.

            Ok so on love and adultery, let’s start out with the obvious; we will have to agree to disagree. I once believed as you did, so in a way I could be debating with my old self (which I still do from time to time).

            You were compelled to Christianity because there had to be something “more”. I understand that, and I respect that.

            However just because you want something to be, doesn’t mean it is. I don’t like the atheist position. I really don’t. It means that after we die we cease to exist and that’s it. No loved ones. Nothing. But I believe it is true. And truth has nothing to do with whether we like it or not.

            So I extend this same line of thought to love. Yes it is simply chemicals released by the brain.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Yes, David, I agree 100%: wanting something to be true does not make it so, for the Christian or the a-theist. I do think there are many a-theists who want a-theism to be true, in the sense that they will not have to be accountable to anyone “higher.” But, I know you are not that type of a-theist, because I think that we both are on a search for truth and it led us in opposite directions from opposite sides of the fence more or less. You believe, with good evidence, that the No God Hypothesis is more plausibly true and representative of the world and I believe, with good evidence, that the God Hypothesis is more plausibly true and representative of the world. We also both have our hearts in it, but seem to be driven, as engineers, more by our heads, I think. So, I could not agree more there. Brilliantly put.

            On adultery, why is it bad on a Darwinist view when there seems to be so little monogamy in the animal kingdom? I mean, even what they call monogamous species are actually not exclusive. I don’t understand why, if we are just animals like other animals, it would be “moral” to remain monogamous? If it’s just molecules-to-man or brain chemicals, then it seems like there would be no “guilt” over sleeping around. (I came dangerously close to doing so myself BC, and I really did not understand how that would be wrong – under my Darwinism beliefs. Really! My Catholic wife would have had a different opinion. :-() But, I agree that this is an interesting area – thanks for the great reply!

      • davidreilly7

        I do agree with you on the term “objective”. That is not my basis for opposition to slavery, genocide, killing people for picking sticks on the Sabbath or laughing at a bald prophet.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          OK, but if you assertion is not objective, it seems to be worded that way. BTW, the only reason I am being deliberately provocative with a guy whose biceps are larger and more muscular than my thighs is because, thus far, the AI folks have not invented a way for you to reach through the ether-space and strangle me. 🙂

          • davidreilly7

            Haha:). I’ll answer your posts tomorrow, but I’m not that big. I compete in the 83 kg (183) weight class. My best competition bench press is a decent 110 kg, so like the running I’m not the best but I enjoy the sport. Next year I compete in Masters 3 (60-69) and I am hoping (maybe dreaming) to get the World record which stands at 130.5, so I have a ways to go!

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Yeah, sorry to keep bothering you. Good stuff you are posting – thanks!

          • davidreilly7

            Thanks. I like to debate, but I like to be civil. Are you a fan of the Doobie Brothers or is that just a coincidence?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Now, how in the world did you even remotely know I was a fan of the Doobie Brothers?!? Saw them last year in concert. Best secular song: South City Midnight Lady. Best kinda Christian song: Jesus is Just Alright

            Are you hacking me, David?!? 🙂

          • davidreilly7

            No I’m not that good. Just your username.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            You know what? I only found out that WGC was the name of a Doobie Brothers album a few months ago! I picked this name several years ago when I was commenting on a conservative cartoon site, for obvious reasons, I hope. Quite the coincidence.

    • James Grimes

      Is it your intention to be a clown on this forum or does it come naturally?

      • davidreilly7

        Well someone who has the Bible as their profile image would take offense or consider the statement laughable, but I would counter that the apologetic “explanations” to those Bible “difficulties” are laughable.

        • James Grimes

          You will get over it. Tomorrow it will be old news. Bye…

          • davidreilly7

            Take care James. Bye.

          • Spoob

            Pay no attention to Grimes. He hates everything but likes to pretend he’s a Christian.

  • bowie1

    I wish them well but it may be challenged at the federal level.

    • dark477

      Of course it will. No branch of government can favor one religion over another.

      • D.M.S.

        How many religions use the Bible?

        • dark477

          Just christianity.

          • D.M.S.

            The Episcopal church believes they are Christian, but some catholic and baptist do not. So it depends, I consider myself to be Christian, but associate myself with any denomination.

          • dark477

            And your point? The bible is the holy book of christianity so making it the state book is favor christianity over other religions which is a violation of the Establishment Clause.

          • D.M.S.

            I guess you’re talking about the U.S. Constitution. Is it the same in a states constitution. Some states have the 10th amendment added to there constitution, I don’t know if that helps the states or not.

          • dark477

            The U.S. Constitution trumps the states.

          • D.M.S.

            I guess we will see how it plays out if it passes in Mississippi. As I recall there’s one state that doesn’t. I think it’s Texas, it was an agreement with Texas and the U. S.

    • BarkingDawg

      Of course it will.

      Will the States attorney defend it himself, knowing that it’s a guaranteed loss? Or will he farm it out to some good old boys who will turn around and bill the state a half million?

  • dark477

    I look forward to seen this slapped down in court

    • BarkingDawg

      I wonder how much money the crony lawyer friends of these legislators plan on billing the state to defend this turkey in court?

  • BarkingDawg

    What’s the point (Other than violating the establishment clause)?

    • dark477

      To stick it to the muslims, atheists and basically any other “anti-christian” groups that Fox tells them about

  • BarkingDawg

    So, if Mississippi makes the bible their state book, does that mean that the other states can’t use it?

    LOL

  • JeromeMac

    It is imperative that the state of Mississippi promote the Christian bible because in Mississippi of course, no kids have ever heard of Christianity. Churches on every block but what is so important is the state’s promotion of the majority’s religious beliefs. Can someone remind me why theocracy in the MiddleEast is bad but not in the US?

  • Howard Taylor

    My Friend: I am asking you the most important question of life. Your joy or your sorrow for all eternity depends upon your answer. The question is: Are you saved? It is not a question of how good you are, nor if you are a church member, but are you saved? Are you sure you will go to Heaven when you die?

    God says in order to go to Heaven, you must be born again. In John 3:7, Jesus said to Nicodemus, “Ye must be born again.”

    In the Bible God gives us the plan of how to be born again which means to be saved. His plan is simple! You can be saved today. How?

    First, my friend, you must realize you are a sinner. “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).

    Because you are a sinner, you are condemned to death. “For the wages [payment] of sin is death” (Romans 6:23). This includes eternal separation from God in Hell.

    “ . . . it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment” (Hebrews 9:27).

    But God loved you so much He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus, to bear your sin and die in your place. “ . . . He hath made Him [Jesus, Who knew no sin] to be sin for us . . . that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).

    Jesus had to shed His blood and die. “For the life of the flesh is in the blood” (Lev. 17:11). “ . . . without shedding of blood is no remission [pardon]” (Hebrews 9:22).

    “ . . . God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8).

    Although we cannot understand how, God said my sins and your sins were laid upon Jesus and He died in our place. He became our substitute. It is true. God cannot lie.

    My friend, “God . . . commandeth all men everywhere to repent” (Acts 17:30). This repentance is a change of mind that agrees with God that one is a sinner, and also agrees with what Jesus did for us on the Cross.

    In Acts 16:30-31, the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas: “ . . . ‘Sirs, what must I do to be saved?’ And they said, ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved . . . .’ ”

    Simply believe on Him as the one who bore your sin, died in your place, was buried, and whom God resurrected. His resurrection powerfully assures that the believer can claim everlasting life when Jesus is received as Savior.

    “But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name” (John 1:12).

    “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” (Romans 10:13).

    Whosoever includes you. Shall be saved means not maybe, nor can, but shall be saved.

    Surely, you realize you are a sinner. Right now, wherever you are, repenting, lift your heart to God in prayer.

    In Luke 18:13, the sinner prayed: “God be merciful to me a sinner.” Just pray: “Oh God, I know I am a sinner. I believe Jesus was my substitute when He died on the Cross. I believe His shed blood, death, burial, and resurrection were for me. I now receive Him as my Savior. I thank You for the forgiveness of my sins, the gift of salvation and everlasting life, because of Your merciful grace. Amen.”

    Just take God at His word and claim His salvation by faith. Believe, and you will be saved. No church, no lodge, no good works can save you. Remember, God does the saving. All of it!

    God’s simple plan of salvation is: You are a sinner. Therefore, unless you believe on Jesus Who died in your place, you will spend eternity in Hell. If you believe on Him as your crucified, buried, and risen Savior, you receive forgiveness for all of your sins and His gift of eternal salvation by faith.

    You say, “Surely, it cannot be that simple.” Yes, that simple! It is scriptural. It is God’s plan. My friend, believe on Jesus and receive Him as Savior today.

    If His plan is not perfectly clear, read this tract over and over, without laying it down, until you understand it. Your soul is worth more than all the world.

    “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?” (Mark 8:36).

    Be sure you are saved. If you lose your soul, you miss Heaven and lose all. Please! Let God save you this very moment.

    God’s power will save you, keep you saved, and enable you to live a victorious Christian life. “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, Who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it” (1 Corinthians 10:13).

    Do not trust your feelings. They change. Stand on God’s promises. They never change. After you are saved, there are three things to practice daily for spiritual growth:

    Pray — you talk to God.

    Read your Bible — God talks to you.

    Witness — you talk for God.

    You should be baptized in obedience to the Lord Jesus Christ as a public testimony of your salvation, and then unite with a Bible-believing church without delay. “Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord . . . .” (2 Timothy 1:8)

    “Whosoever therefore shall confess [testify of] Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven” (Matthew 10:32).

  • gregkliebigsr

    YOU GO MISSISSIPPI LAWMAKERS! YA’LL STAND UP FOR OUR LORD AND GOD JESUS CHRIST !! GOD BLESS MS. ; BECAUSE YA’LL BLESS GOD WHEN YOU STAND FOR HIM!!! LOVE YA !!

  • BarkingDawg

    Maybe the legislators can pass around a sack of snakes and take turns pulling them out.

  • Eddie wade

    First of all let me say that: (Proverbs 14:34) Righteousness exalteth a Nation: but sin is a reproach to any people! ( Psalms 9:17) All the Nations that forget God shall be turned into Hell and you can watch the news of America and say Amen! But also in Proverbs 4:20-22) Says that the Bible is LIFE to those that find it

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    I wish the Christian Americans could make a new dominion. Christians are good at making the finest nations for everyone on earth. No blasphemy, no infanticide, and no chaotic immorality. Everyone will be safe and diligent, with the honor and knowledge of the truth and true liberty, under the Christian dominion. Godless secularism only corrupted children and tamed people with uncontrollable filth.