‘Life Has a Natural Flow’: ‘Gay’ Fashion Designer Expresses Opposition to IVF Surrogate Children

DG Credit Derick328Famed luxury fashion house designer Domenico Dolce, who identifies as a homosexual and once had a relationship with business partner Stefano Gabbana, is again speaking out against same-sex “marriage” and surrogacy.

The two men recently provided a brief interview with Italian magazine Panarama, in which Dolce expressed his views about conceiving children by unnatural means.

“Life has a natural flow; there are things that cannot be changed,” he stated. “The only family is the traditional one. No chemical offspring and rented uterus.”

“I am not convinced by those I call children of chemistry, synthetic children,” Dolce said. “Rented uterus, [male fertilization] chosen from a catalogue … Psychiatrists are not ready to confront the effects of this experimentation.”

Gabbana also opined that he takes the definition of family seriously.

“The family is not a fad,” he said. “In it there is a supernatural sense of belonging.”

The fashion designers’ comments have spoken in the past in regard to their opposition to same-sex “marriage.” In 2003, UK-based publication The Telegraph asked the men if they planned on tying the knot.

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“What? Never!” Dolce replied. “I’m a practicing Catholic.”

Gabbana also told the Daily Mail in 2006, “I am opposed to the idea of a child growing up with two gay parents. A child needs a mother and a father. I could not imagine my childhood without my mother.”

But following Dolce and Gabbana’s recent comments to the Italian publication, a number of homosexual advocates have become enraged at the duo, claiming that the men are “spreading hate.” Some called for a boycott of their fashion line.

“These designers’ horrifying views are never in fashion. Their clothes are as ugly as their hate,” Tweeted American screenwriter Ryan Murphy.

“Your voices are too powerful to be spreading so much hate,” wrote singer Ricky Martin. “Wake up; it’s 2015. Love yourselves, guys.”

Singer Elton John has now called for a boycott of the fashion designers, as he has two IVF children with his partner David Furnish.

“How dare you refer to my beautiful children as ‘synthetic’?” he wrote on Instagram. “Your archaic thinking is out of step with the times, just like your fashions. I shall never wear Dolce and Gabbana ever again. BoycottDolceGabbana.”

But Gabbana responded by leaving a one word comment: “Fascist.”

He further explained to the publication Corriere Della Sera that he was surprised that the singer responded in the way that he did.

“I wasn’t expecting it,” Gabbana stated. “What’s going on? You preach understanding. You preach tolerance. And then you put the knife in all because someone else doesn’t see things your way? Is that supposed to be a democratic way of thinking? Enlightened? He’s ignorant, in the sense that he denies ways of seeing things that may not be his but are just as deserving of respect.”

The men also noted that their opinions were only personal ones, and that they don’t take issue with others who choose differently. Gabbana said that he personally isn’t against IVF, but Dolce is.

“Domenico simply expressed his opinion on the traditional family and medically assisted fertilization. Do others think differently? That’s their privilege. But we want the same respect,” Gabbana said. “But I can see there are gays, particularly on the web, who are homophobes. Gays who insult other gays for expressing ideas that are different.”

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  • Tara

    they all clamor to oppose any opinion that would be in any way contrary to a homosexuals life choices. Funny how intolerant they are, huh?

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      “they all”

      Who is “they all”?

      “clamor to oppose any opinion that would be in any way contrary to a homosexuals life choices.”

      Kind of like the Fundies who oppose oppose any opinion that would be in any way contrary to a Fundies life choices, huh?

      • Lupe

        I think you’d better do a bit more research. We “fundies” don’t oppose other people’s opinions, we oppose the sin.
        Murder. We oppose murder. There ARE those that think murder is perfectly acceptable. It’s not the human we oppose it’s the sin.
        Theft. We oppose theft. We don’t hate those that steal, we pray for their repentance.
        I know it’s difficult for you to understand because you have been so ingrained with the thought that anyone who opposes your ideas or beliefs is a hater but we’re not.
        In truth, we love our neighbors and, rather than attack them, we pray for them.

        • Better AndBetter

          Comparing consenting adults loving one another to murder and theft brands you…

          You bear the mark of ID10T.

          • Lupe

            Sorry, I thought you and adult.

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          ” We “fundies” don’t oppose other people’s opinions”

          The how do you explain the calls to boycott companies that support same-gender marriage and pressure them to be “neutral” on the subject?

          “I know it’s difficult for you to understand because you have been so ingrained with the thought that anyone who opposes your ideas or beliefs is a hater but we’re not.”

          That is not my belief.

          “In truth, we love our neighbors and, rather than attack them, we pray for them.”

          When you support laws that legally, financially, and emotionally harm citizens for no other reason than you not wanting them to be able to do something you don’t agree with, that is not love, that is an attack.

          • Tara

            you need to get over the fact that not all in this world accept homosexuality as not being sin, as it not being a choice. Many don’t believe in God as I do; so? Many don’t agree with homosexuality. So? Gay’s don’t have any more right to be intolerant than straight people do. Gays THINK they do, but they don’t. We’re all people. ALL people matter.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “you need to get over the fact that not all in this world accept homosexuality as not being sin”

            I have no such illusions. I have no doubt that many people will continue to believe that homosexuality is a sin, and they are certainly free to their beliefs.

            To believe sexuality is a choice, when there is ZERO evidence to support such a conclusion, is without reason. Believe it if you want, but you are simply lying to yourself.

            “Gay’s don’t have any more right to be intolerant than straight people do.”

            Oh really? Are there people who are telling straights that they are not worthy, as citizens, of being treated equally under the law because they are straight? Are there people attempting to keep laws in place which financially and legally harm citizens because they are straight? Are there people saying that it should be legal to deny citizens housing, public accommodation, and employment based on nothing more than their being straight?

            “ALL people matter.”

            That is not a sentiment that is shared by those who want to marginalize certain citizens based a trait that is contrary to their religious beliefs.

          • Tara

            Do some investigating besides mainstream. Lots of discrimination, and it’s not just believers who are capable of it. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Lots of discrimination, ”

            Really? I’d love to see some examples of discrimination based upon someone being heterosexual. Please, enlighten me.

          • Tara

            God bless.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            And you.

          • MelanieWaffle

            While I understand I can never change everyone’s mind and everybody has the right to their opinion and should be allowed to freely express it, all I ask as part of the lgbt is that when it comes to equality or if asked nicely, please leave us alone. There comes a time when you are no longer preaching to help us and your words become more harmful than good. Trust me as someone ingrained in both Christianity and the transgender community, I know religion is great, especially us Christians (sorry for being cocky) but the way yall preach the message is turning people away. Many of the people in the trans community have gave up on God because of the way they were treated. So no you don’t have to accept us, but no need to be mean. Sorry for the bad spelling. I’m on my phone and I’m running on no sleep lol

          • Lupe

            Boycotts come from both sides. That’s just part of life.
            If you don’t believe anyone who opposes you is a hater then why do you resort to name calling (fundies). I know that is NOT a term of endearment.
            So if I don’t support a law that says pedophilia is good then I am attacking these perverts?
            If I support a law that bans the killing of babies, I am attacking?
            There are many laws on the books but I’ve yet to hear of one that “emotionally harms” people.
            I spent 27 years of my life defending the great Constitution we have and I have been to places where freedom is a dream.
            So, I’m all for the freedoms that we have, I just don’t like it when people try to force their ways on me. Force me to accept what I consider an perversion.

          • Paul Hiett

            Please stop equating homosexual people with pedophiles and those who murder. Sexual orientation is not a crime.

          • Lupe

            It’s not orientation. It’s a choice.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            What is the basis for your statement that sexuality is a choice?

            Did you choose yours? Could you simply choose, today, to be sexually, romantically, and emotionally attracted to someone of the same gender?

          • Lupe

            Now you’re grasping at straws.
            1. 1.6% to 2.5% of population is homosexual. That means only about 150 million people live this lifestyle.

            2. If you accept the Theory of Evolution, IT goes against homosexuality because of the “survival of the fittest” statement. Homosexuals cannot reproduce. If you were to place all homosexuals on an island (separate male/female), they would become extinct within a generation.
            I didn’t make that up. It’s a simple fact.

            3. Romance and emotion are further proof that it is a choice. A look at basic psychology will tell you that EMOTION plays a big role in this lifestyle.

            4. I didn’t have to choose my sexual orientation. We were created for man(male) to leave his parents and cling to his wife(female).

            5. In the same way you cannot prove that homosexuality is an orientation. Studies (LeVay, Hamer,) have failed to prove that homosexuality is genetic. Even Kinsey said he think there is a predisposition to homosexualtiy.

            Even the CDC had a study out saying the homosexual population is 2.3% (Males. Lesbians less than 1%). This tells me that one chooses the lifestyle.

            In the end, however, it really doesn’t matter what I think. Most of us believe your lifestyle is wrong but MOST of us leave you alone.

            I know there are those (Westboro Baptist) that are misled and completely misunderstand the Bible that cause trouble. They give me and, most of us that believe in freedom, a headache, heartburn and heartache.

            Thankfully we live in a country that allows people freedom to do, pretty much, what they want. A place where we can air our differences in a peaceful and adult manner.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “1. 1.6% to 2.5% of population is homosexual. That means only about 150 million people live this lifestyle.”

            And that be something that count as a basis for sexuality being a choice, why? Less than 1% of people are over 6’5″ – is height therefore a choice?

            2. Homosexuals cannot reproduce.

            Oh my. You don’t know much about biology or genetics, do you? Yes, dear, homosexuals can reproduce. Needed for reproduction: Sperm, egg, uterus. Homosexuals have those in abundance. Not that it is relevant, as the sexuality of the parents has not been shown to be predictive of the sexuality of offspring. Are you familiar with recessed genes and epigenetics? Apparently not. I would suggest you do some research to enhance your understanding.

            “If you were to place all homosexuals on an island (separate male/female), they would become extinct within a generation”

            Well, dear, if you were to put all heterosexuals on an island and separated the males from the females, they would also be extinct in a generation. Humans cannot reproduce asexually.

            3. Romance and emotion are further proof that it is a choice. A look at basic psychology will tell you that EMOTION plays a big role in this lifestyle.

            Emotion plays a big role in the heterosexual lifestyle as well, as does romance. Emotion plays a big role in life in general. That is not evidence for sexuality being a choice – talk about grasping at straws!

            “4. I didn’t have to choose my sexual orientation.”

            If sexuality is a choice, then you should be able to choose yours at any time you care to. It would be illogical to suggest otherwise. So, I’ll ask again: Could you simply choose, today, to be sexually, romantically, and emotionally attracted to someone of the same gender?

            5. In the same way you cannot prove that homosexuality is an orientation.

            That is what it is referred to. That is not a question.

            “have failed to prove that homosexuality is genetic.”

            Failing to have definitive proof that sexuality is biologically based does not mean that it is therefore definitively a choice. That would be like saying that until it was proven that the world was round, it was indeed flat. That is a not a logical statement. There is no empirical nor scientific research that suggests that sexuality is a choice.

            “Even the CDC had a study out saying the homosexual population is 2.3% (Males. Lesbians less than 1%). This tells me that one chooses the lifestyle.”

            How in the world is the percentage of the population indicative of something being a choice? Only 10% of the population is left-handed. So is left-handedness a choice? At what percent of the population do we determine that something is not a choice?

            “Most of us believe your lifestyle is wrong but MOST of us leave you alone.”

            Who is “us”?

            Working to ensure there are laws in place which restrict the rights of gay citizens and harm them legally, financially, and emotionally, is not “leaving them alone”. It is actively working to harm them so some people won’t have deal with something being legal that they don’t want to be legal, for purely selfish reasons.

            “They give me and, most of us that believe in freedom, a headache, heartburn and heartache.”

            Agreed. But I accept that if I am to enjoy the freedoms I have, then I must be willing to let others have theirs – even when I disagree with them. Unfortunately, there are those in this great nation of ours who believe that it is reasonable to restrict the rights of citizens because they do not agree with the way in which those citizens choose to pursue their happiness. That is not consistent with our constitution, nor the freedoms, liberty, and equality that you devoted 27 years of your life defending.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            So then we agree that boycotts ARE opposition to other people’s opinions.

            “Fundies” is short for Fundamentalists. While not a term of endearment, it is also not “name calling”.

            Opposition to harming others is not comparable to denying two citizens access to a right offered by the state for no other reason than it is in conflict with your religious beliefs.

            “There are many laws on the books but I’ve yet to hear of one that “emotionally harms” people.”

            If a citizen is kept from legalizing a relationship with an otherwise qualified person of their choice, that is emotionally harming.

            “I spent 27 years of my life defending the great Constitution we have”

            Thank you for your service.

            “So, I’m all for the freedoms that we have,”

            Apparently not, as you support restricting the freedom of citizens based upon nothing more than your religious belief. That is not being “all for the freedoms”. That is being for the freedoms you agree with.

            “I just don’t like it when people try to force their ways on me.”

            Oh, I hear ya there. All my life those who believe the Bible should serve as a sole basis for our laws have been trying to force their ways on me and limit my rights based upon nothing more than their belief system. I’m glad to know you don’t support such efforts.

            “Force me to accept what I consider an perversion.”

            Spare me the hyperbole. No one can “force” you to accept something. This whole false persecution complex that if something is legal then people have to personally accept it is nothing more than selfish whining. You are free to accept or not accept whatever you care to. Quit acting like you are being forced to accept something – you are not.

      • Funkasaurasrex

        Who is They All???? Got comprehension? Clearly not.

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          So you don’t know either. Got it.

      • Tara

        ‘they all’ would be those in this story. And no. Not like that at all. There is a huge difference between intolerance – which is just as forthcoming from gay people as straight, and recognizing sin as sin.

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          Since what is viewed as “sin” depends on one’s religious beliefs, deciding what people should and shouldn’t be allowed to do based upon those beliefs is a form of intolerance. It is no different.

          • Tara

            what is viewed as sin is decided by God.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            And what you believe God has decided depends on which faith you have chosen to follow. Still intolerance.

          • Tara

            you can call me intolerant all day, it really doesn’t matter. My point is that gays are just as intolerant and militant in their demands that everyone support and accept their lifestyle. By trying to get people to boycott as Elton is doing is telling the owners, or anyone else who has the same opinions, that they can’t have those opinions. The double standards are ridiculous. Isn’t it just Christians who shove beliefs and opinions down throats? Yeah…no. Besides, in this day and age, with everything going on in the world, I think there are more important things to worry about than offending people when people are being butchered.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “everyone support and accept their lifestyle.”

            You can not demand that people support and accept anything. People are free to support and accept whatever they care to. Seeking the legality of something does not require that people personally support or accept it.

            “is telling the owners, or anyone else who has the same opinions, that they can’t have those opinions.”

            No, it is not. They are free to their opinions. it is stating that they will not financially support them because of their opinions. Just as some people call for boycotts of Home Depot, Target, Starbucks, etc., because of their opinions.

            “Isn’t it just Christians who shove beliefs and opinions down throats?”

            Here’s the difference. Some Christians are attempting to restrict the rights of citizens based upon nothing more than their religious beliefs that something is “wrong”. You don’t see that on the other side.

            “with everything going on in the world, I think there are more important things to worry about than offending people when people are being butchered.”

            I completely agree. Amazing that so much time, energy, and effort is put in to attempting to make it illegal for two citizens of the same gender to access a right that is offered by the state, when there are so many other issues of such great impact facing the world. Imagine what good could be accomplished of all of these resources were put toward poverty, hunger, and disease.

    • Funkasaurasrex

      They have become the very intolerant people they fought against for their acceptance. Now how about them apples?

    • Ambulance Chaser

      What would a tolerant person do, upon hearing an opinion s/he disagreed with?

      • Tara

        One can disagree without forming a mob, right? Or are days of civility gone completely? Anyone with eyes to see can see that many homosexuals do not want to be told no by anyone, in any way, shape, or form. Even when other homosexuals disagree. Seriously? It’s ridiculous and like watching children pitching fits. Really Elton? Because someone disagrees with you raising children, the world needs to stop? If we’re all adults, let’s act like adults. Good grief.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Who is forming a mob? All I see are people disagreeing with D&G, and some have announced that they’ll take their business elsewhere.

          • Tara

            news stories showed mobs.

  • Lorrie

    Unless you are a
    Fundamentalist with extreme hatred for gay human beings, you are not allowed to
    comment on this website. My husband John
    loves Jesus but understands that homosexuality is NOT a sin because a person
    does not choose their sexuality. He
    spoke to Michael from Christian News Network and was told Christians, including
    members of the United Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Episcopal, and other
    Christians that have an opposing view to their hatred will always be blocked
    from this site and will all be going to hell.
    THEY ARE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH AND THEREFORE THINK IT IS BEST TO SILENCE
    THE TRUTH. A major SHAME on them! John was respectful to others in his comments
    and was removed, yet a hateful man like Gary
    is allowed to continue making ugly and disrespectful comments in the false name
    of Christianity. This is an incredibly
    shameful act where goats are disguised as sheep. Jesus will know the difference and those
    guilty will suffer the consequences.

    • David Morales

      You mean a person does not choose his or hers sexual orientation,. their sexuality is allready chosen for them. Lord stop the world I wanna’ get off!!!!!

    • Gary

      The Bible is VERY clear that homos-xuality is a sin. God only allows moral s-x within marriage, and God limits marriage to a man and a woman.

      • Better AndBetter

        And the good thing?

        Since we’re not a theocracy, it doesn’t matter in US law.

        • Lupe

          This goes beyond man’s law.
          Sadly, there are many that refuse to grasp that.
          Where it will matter is in the end.
          The Bible says you will stand before God after you die and will answer for your actions/beliefs.
          I know, you don’t belief in that “mythical” stuff; but what if it isn’t a myth?

          • Better AndBetter

            This only applies to “man’s law”.
            We’re not a theocracy… your religious law is as meaningful as that of muslims.

            The bible is fable… myth… and something written by men that you have chosen to follow. Nothing more.

            What if? What if it is?

          • Funkasaurasrex

            Your opinion. Nothing more.

          • Better AndBetter

            Sweetie, if my opinion is all it takes to see nationwide gay marriage, so be it!

          • Manny

            Well your statement was written by You (a man or woman or animal what ever you consider yourself) so it that holds true, then your statement is also a fable….myth…nothing more!

          • Better AndBetter

            If backed with facts, like the fact that men wrote the bible, it’s no longer myth.

            Your religion is backed by exactly zero facts.

          • Manny

            Again you have to prove that ” Man’s Laws” are facts, and who said they are facts and by what standards or science you are claiming they are facts. If you look up history on The Laws of Man you will end up knowing that they derived from the “Mythical Book” The Bible.

          • Paul Hiett

            How, exactly, did the rest of the world come up with similar laws without ever having heard of the Bible? Ancient Rome, for example…long before Christianity and Judaism were prominent…had many such laws in place. And yet, the Bible was centuries away from being written.

            I think you give the Bible far too much credit.

          • Manny

            let go back to History. Why do you think Rome fell? if you look at their laws you will find out that our nation saw the issues associated with the fall of Rome. They decided to use a more ethical and moral law giver, The Bible. we are the only nation that was given a republic government ” if we can keep it” and by what I see, we to will fall like Rome. Its in the Process of our new liberal way of thinking. I hope we Dont Fall, but if we do, we will know why!

          • Paul Hiett

            The funny thing is, many Historians credit the acceptance of Christianity as the official religion (and subsequently outlawed all others), as one of the main reasons Rome fell.

            Don’t take my word for it, Google it. The rise and fall of Western Rome is a fascinating study.

          • Manny

            That was the problem. The struggle of power. Christianity was and is always a decision made from free will not by law. that’s why when our founding father created this nation they made sure that no religion over powered another. That through living a such religion will prove itself that it works. But also that not even the state or Government could make that discussion or intervene. They knew that the morality and ethics that the Bible had was the best way to establish our governance. Even our three branches of government come from the Trinity of the bible. Three powers balanced by apposing powers with each having its special power to become one government together. The problem with Rome’s fall is again when you start giving power to one branch of religion or government, it becomes a power and a destroyer to freedom, liberty and justice. Just read up the battles between Roman Catholic Church and the Government, or one pope trying to become God over other popes and killing each other for power. I’m telling you The decisions and principles that a human makes from his own mind many times is about power just like animals “survival of the fittest” “kill or be Killed” ” you are old so I will beat you down to take over your female and territory ” . No, I thanks God for this awesome book he left for us. With out it I would be totally lost and I think this Nation too.

          • Maria Wilson

            Amen ,God bless you brother

          • MelanieWaffle

            Also c9rrect me if I’m wrong but isn’t Rome one of the longest standing empires and it didn’t begin to fall until Christianity? I’m not saying this is the actual reason but simply making the point that being more liberal and remaining Christian is possible and maybe we won’t fall as a nation.

          • Maria Wilson

            Have you ever heard about written Bible scrolls ?Old testament was written 4000 yrs up to before NT .and off course NT was written after Lord Jesus death and Resurrection .Bible has 66 books ,39 books OT and 27 NT and all Bible was inspired by the Holy Spirit ..

          • MelanieWaffle

            Not quite zero facts. Yes there is a certain amount of faith, but there have been historical documents unearthed. Do I “know” 100 percent emperically the Bible is true? Nope I have faith. However, I think people misinterpret it all the time.

        • Funkasaurasrex

          And even better is two successful Gay guys calling out that Gay Marriage is a sham and IVF is not good. AND the bible will not change yet laws do.

          • Better AndBetter

            Good for them.

            They won’t stop gay marriage either.

            And your man-made holy book is meaningless.

    • Pablo U Hunni

      Lorrie, you had best go back to the word of God. Matt 11:24, Luke 10:12 Luke 17:29 Romans 7:2 Romans 1:24-27 The list goes on. Before you make blanket statements be sure you are correct about God’s word. Shame on you.

  • Chris Sinclair

    Gays calling anyone who disagrees hateful or hate speech. Especially if you are black and dare express your beliefs. The same people shouting the name Obama, quick to spew vile racist venom against African Americans. Denying children a mother or father is a crime against humanity not a human right, civil right or equal rights issue.

    • Paul Hiett

      How is giving a child a loving parent, or two (regardless of gender), a “crime against humanity”.

      How can you possibly compare that with things like the Holocaust, or the Trail of Tears, or the Rape of Nanking?

      Really?

  • bowie1

    Why would they be enraged at this man’s opinion, if he said it is just his own opinion, and that others are welcome to have their own opinion?

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Why shouldn’t we be? A statement’s being someone’s “opinion” doesn’t magically render it immune from criticism.

      • bowie1

        Naturally.

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      Are they not entitled to their opinion that they find his comments outrageous?

      • bowie1

        That’s what I said in the last part of my comment.

  • FoJC_Forever

    Beware the subtleties of deceivers. While this person is espousing some things which are true, he is practicing sin. Remember that devils acknowledge God’s existence, yet will not seek God to do His Will.

    Also beware the real internet trolls who come to a site they know does not hold their views, simply to stir up trouble and textually lash out at those they hate. Feigned respect is just that, feigned.

    Homosexuality is a choice. It is a choice people make to follow after the lust which is in their carnal nature. The carnal nature can be grown into differing types of sinful ‘trees’, which produce different types of sinful fruit. All sin has to be acknowledged and forsaken for the heart to receive the forgiving and cleansing power of the Holy Spirit through Jesus Christ. Those who claim they have no choice but to be homosexual are calling God a liar and forsaking the mercy He offers through the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Pablo U Hunni

      He is committing SIN we all DO. Yet he is still needing Jesus and he has an open mind and possibly an open heart. We love the sinner just not the sinful behavior.

      • Lupe

        Amen brother.

  • Pablo U Hunni

    A person of reason. Wish there were more like this in their thoughts.

  • Better AndBetter

    Meh… they won’t stop gay marriage in the US of A either. They’re, of course, welcome to their opinion, but come June, they’ll be in the camp of losses, wailing, and gnashing of teeth with those hostile against gay citizens.

  • Jerod Hatch

    Sounds like the Pope.
    Just because he speaks truth doesn’t mean he’s not a liar.

  • Regina Forbes

    “The family is not a fad,” THANK YOU! Seriously, I’m so sick of “trendy” people being irresponsible just for the sake of fashion.

  • Maria Wilson

    Children should have real parents ,mother and father not surrogate parents .The only parents that has the right to adpped children without parents (orphans )if they are mother and father not 2 man and 2 women to confuse the child .Lord help American families to restore their values and raise children the way you intended to be raised when you instituted the very first marriage as holy and sacred Amen.

  • Maria Wilson

    Ephesians 5:Wives and Husbands
    …30because we are members of His body. 31FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND SHALL BE JOINED TO HIS WIFE, AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH.

  • Harry Oh!

    This is awesome, now I’ve heard everything. Come on you gay trolls, let’s hear your pathetic attempts to explain this one away.

    • MisterPine

      One moron with an opinion is supposed to mean something?

      • Richard

        I think so.

        • MisterPine

          I call him a moron because I happen to think he’s wrong, but Harry is making this out to be a make or break issue and it’s not.

          • Richard

            Like many beliefs, each person within a belief system is entitled to his particular perspective. Calling him a moron because he has a different perspective is moronic. Don’t you think.

            As the saying goes, “insults are an indication of someone who is desperate to suppress an opposing view.”

      • Harry Oh!

        One very rich, very well known and very GAY person. I’d say his opinion carries a lot more weight than yours.

        • MisterPine

          Incorrect, I am not very well known nor am I gay. Do you post such glaring inaccuracies often?

          • Harry Oh!

            I was talking about Dolce genius.

          • MisterPine

            Why should his opinion, then, carry more weight merely because he’s famous?

          • Oboehner

            “and very GAY” Cut and paste, pick and choose boy.

          • Jose

            It carries a lot more weight bc he has a lot more followers that listen to him and will follow his lead. As is the trend today, truth isn’t perceived and guided as universal and absolute but what society as a mass thinks or as the majority, even if it’s against nature and reason…. i guess the bible is right once again, “claiming to be wise they became fools”

          • MisterPine

            Hey, I wrote a book which says to stop oppressing people for their sexuality. I wrote it, but God inspired it. Guess you have to listen to what it says, since God inspired its writing.

            What’s that? You don’t believe God inspired my book?

            Then why should I believe He inspired yours?

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          How so?

        • Paul Hiett

          So fame and fortune dictate truth now?

      • MelanieWaffle

        I agree their opinion is wrong but if we have any hope of changing minds or even winning arguments, we have to be the better person and always remain more respectful.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      What is it we’re supposed to be explaining?

    • MelanieWaffle

      Well as a transgender person, I see nothing wrong with equal marriage and I see nothing wrong with homosexuals adopting children. I am even ok with artificial insemination. However some of this future stuff makes me weary and I would like to see more testing. Further, the nice thing about homosexual couples was the fact they couldn’t reproduce as it would help get kids out of the system. While I feel sorry they can’t reproduce, and I know I will never pass on my genes, we as a community can help a lot of children. The earth is getting crowded anyway. Finally these two famous gay people have no more or less say than anybody. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I truly believe they are wrong. Lots of yall believe I’m wrong. Dr. Phil is always wrong. Meh, that’s my 2 cents.

  • Maria Wilson

    “Life has a natural flow; there are things that cannot be changed,”
    he stated. “The only family is the traditional one. No chemical
    offspring and rented uterus.” At list Dolce& Gabbana recognize the truth about how marriage and raising children should be, the others never recognize their sin and faults and try to force their life style on us heterosexuals .

  • Maria Wilson

    I pray that Dulce and Gabbana will repent and give their life to Jesus just as the tiff did on the cross . Angels in heaven will rejoice when a sinner repent and come to Jesus .LORD GOD HELP THEM ALL TO COME TO THEIR SENSES ,RECOGNIZING THEIR SIN AND ACCEPT YOU IN THEIR LIVES AS LORD AND SAVIOR ,I DONT WANT ANYONE TO DIE IN THEIR SIN AND BE SEPARATED FROM YOU FOR ETERNITY .AMEN.

  • Ambulance Chaser

    “Life has a natural flow; there are things that cannot be changed,” he stated. “The only family is the traditional one. No chemical offspring and rented uterus.”

    There are many things in nature that cannot be changed. Infertility is, oftentimes, not one of them. Women get pregnant through IVF every day. Is he unaware of this fact?

  • thoughtsfromflorida

    Wow. They found two gay people who agree with them. Amazing. That IS news.

    • Richard

      I’m confident there are a lot more than that.

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        On what is your confidence based?

        • Richard

          People are people with their many different beliefs. To assume only two people agree on any one subject is illogical.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Two homosexuals agreeing that there should be ” No chemical offspring and rented uterus.” is not something I have heard any other homosexual say.

            “To assume only two people agree on any one subject is illogical.”

            I never made that assumption.

            “I’m confident there are a lot more than that.”

            “a lot more” – I’ll ask again: what is the source of your confidence? Simply a numbers game?

          • Richard

            Do you honestly believe there are only two homosexuals on earth who believe in the traditional family unit? Only natural children?

          • Paul Hiett

            Do you believe that all Christians share your viewpoint?

          • Richard

            Wouldn’t that contradict my previous comment?

          • Paul Hiett

            Just pointing out that because a few gay people speak out against SSM, that not all Christians share your anti-SSM viewpoint. Keep it in perspective.

          • Richard

            Speaking of perspective. I came across the most up-to-date study about the cause of homosexuality. It has concluded no one is born gay. Have you seen it?

          • Paul Hiett

            By all means, enlighten me…

          • Richard

            Here is a summary quote from the study done by Northwestern University:

            “Our findings suggest there may be genes at play — we found evidence for two sets that affect whether a man is gay or straight. But it is not completely determinative; there are certainly other environmental factors involved. The study shows that there are genes involved in male sexual orientation. Although this could one day lead to a pre-natal test for male sexual orientation, it would not be very accurate, as there are other factors that can influence the outcome.” – Michael Bailey, Northwestern University psychology professor, Published online: 17 November 2014; Psychological Medicine

            What they found was that even though there were similarities in people with these two sets of genes, there were people with these genes that weren’t homosexual, and people without them that were. This means that these genes in no way determine gay behavior. The research confirms what others were saying. No one is born gay. They become gay through a series of factors.

          • Paul Hiett

            Based on your except, I don’t quite see how you came to the determination that “no one is born gay”. The very statements within the paragraph even contradict your statement. Using the words “may be” and “this could” indicate that their studies are leaning towards a genetic reason for our sexual orientations.

            I don’t think anyone could read that passage and come away with “People aren’t born gay”.

            I would garner to say that this passage actually is leaning the opposite direction, but that they as of yet don’t have the answers.

          • Richard

            “The very statements within the paragraph even contradict your statement.”

            Did you overlook the : ‘But it is not completely determinative; there are certainly other environmental factors involved.’ and the ‘as there are other factors that can influence the outcome.’

            ” indicate that their studies are leaning towards a genetic reason for our sexual orientations”

            Not in the least. The research is very clear. This also agrees with research on genetics. Even though we have genes, they in no way determine outcomes. It’s been known for many years that genes don’t determine destiny.

            This research, along with all of the others should end the ‘born this way’ myth.

          • Paul Hiett

            Exactly, it’s not completely determinative. In fact, the article clearly states it doesn’t have the answers at this time. There is absolutely no answer in this article at all…neither in the positive or the negative. It merely states they’ve made some progress in finding some genes that may determine orientation.

            Clearly, this does not end the argument by any stretch of the imagination, and in my opinion, is actually more of an argument for the fact that people have no control over their orientation.

            After all, I’m pretty sure you never made a choice about which gender turns you on…

          • Richard

            The answer is definitive. It agrees with all of the other research on this topic – there are many factors that determine homosexual behavior. No one is born gay. To suggest otherwise means to dismiss all of the current research about the cause of homosexuality.

            This clearly ends the discussion about the cause. Now it’s time for gay proponents to own up to the truth.

          • Paul Hiett

            And I will have to respectfully disagree, since the paragraph clearly states that genes are at play. At that point, we have to accept that sexual orientation is affected by our genetic makeup.

          • Richard

            You might want to study a bit more on genetics and epigenetics to fully grasp what the research (and all of the other genetic research on the subject) means.

            Here is a link to help in that:

            http://www.joshgitalis.com/epigentics-do-genes-determine-your-destiny/

          • Paul Hiett

            I appreciate the link, and I read the article. I’m having a hard time pinpointing where this affects one’s sexual orientation though. Is it in another article by this person?

          • Richard

            The gist, is no matter our DNA, they don’t determine our behavioral or health destinies. Orientation is a fancy word for attraction. Attraction is another word for preference. Preferences are learned.

            Believing homosexuals’ preferences are inherent means you’ll need to turn the entire Cognitive Behavioral education system and application on its head.

            This is why my buddy was never convinced of the ‘born this way’ myth. Now the research confirms it.

            After my conversation with him last night, he said there is a lot of pre-gay activist research that confirms this, too. He sent me some cites, and they agree with today’s research.

            I’m sorry, Paul. But the truth has finally surfaced. It was always there but suppressed by gay pressure. No longer.

          • Paul Hiett

            But this article in no way discusses sexual orientation. This is why there’s no definitive conclusion yet, and your claim that there is is unfounded, to be honest. We simply don’t know enough at this point.

            I’m sorry, but the article you posted absolutely does not confirm that people are not born with their sexual orientation confirmed. There’s no proof, regardless of how you try and interpret the data on your own.

            When someone says “Our findings suggest there may be genes at play — we found evidence for two sets that affect whether a man is gay or straight.”, it most certainly does not give any kind of an indication that orientation is not genetic, in fact, basic reading comprehension of that paragraph you posted would lead anyone to believe the opposite, that sexual orientation most likely IS genetic.

          • Richard

            “We simply don’t know enough at this point.”

            Actually, research does as indicated earlier. The problem has always been suppression. Here’s an example:

            Two large studies asked homosexual respondents to explain the origins of their desires and behaviors — how they “got that way.” The first of these studies was conducted by Kinsey in the 1940s and involved 1700 homosexuals. The second, in 1970, involved 979 homosexuals. Both were conducted prior to the period when the “gay rights” movement started to politicize the issue of homosexual origins. Both reported essentially the same findings: homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences. – Bell (1973) Homosexualities: their range and character. Nebraska Symposium on Motivation Cole & Dienstbier (eds) Univ Nebraska Press; King (1980) The Etiology of Homosexuality as Related to Childhood Experiences and Adult Adjustment Ed.D. Thesis, Indiana Univ.

            In numerous studies years later (in the 1980s) similar results were reported, including 80 percent of heterosexuals said their attractions were learned, with 65 percent homosexuals saying their attraction was learned. – Cameron, et al (1989) Effect of homosexuality upon public health and social order. Psychological Rpts 64:1167-79; Cameron, et al (1988) Homosexuals in the armed forces. Psychological Rpts 62:211-9; Cameron, et al (1986) Child molestation and homosexuality. Psychological Rpts 58:327-37; Cameron (1985) Homosexual molestation of children/sexual interaction of teacher and pupil. Psychological Rpts 57:1227-36.

            Since gay behavior is the same today as it was since the beginning of time, what changed? Gay activism. Gay activists started suppressing anything they found a barrier to acceptance. For the last 40 years, gay activists forced change and opinions.

            But, with access to independent information, and those who didn’t succumb to gay activist pressure, the truth is once again surfacing. And the truth is the same as it has always been: there is no biological or genetic cause for homosexual behavior.

            From the 1930s (when Kinsey started collecting data) to the early 1970s, before a “politically correct” answer emerged, only about 10% of homosexuals claimed they were “born that way.” Heterosexuals apparently continue to believe that their behavior is primarily a result of social conditioning.

            These are the facts.

          • Paul Hiett

            1970 and 1973?

            Come on…

          • Richard

            Did you read my comments? Gay behavior hasn’t changed. Neither has the cause.

            The only thing that changed was gay activism, which suppressed and distorted the truth.

            The most recent research has once again confirmed what they knew in the mid 1900s. Time is up for the ‘born this way’ myth. The science is in.

          • MelanieWaffle

            Those studies are severely outdated. While gay behaviour hasn’t changed, our understanding of it has vastly improved. Thus a different perspective is required.

          • MelanieWaffle

            May I ask what your scientific background is that allows you the high ground when it comes to interpreting scientific literature?

          • MelanieWaffle

            Other factors can include many things such as hormonal input in utero. Either way the paper isn’t saying what you think it is. Although I’m kind of interested to read it. Do you have a link? Sorry I love science papers.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Hmmmm….I didn’t see that conclusion anywhere in the information you provided. Would you please point out where the authors of the study stated that “no one is born gay”?

            What I read was:

            “”Our findings suggest there may be genes at play”

            “The study shows that there are genes involved in male sexual orientation.”

            But If you say that the study concluded that no one is born gay, I certainly look forward to seeing where, in the study, that conclusion was put forth.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            I have no idea. Nor is it a question of believing in the traditional family unit. The view espoused was believing exclusively in the traditional family unit.

            How many heterosexuals do you know who would suggest to an infertile opposite gender couple that they should not consider the use of in vitro fertilization, artificial insemination, or use of a surrogate mother?

            The question, however, was not about how many I think there are. The question was what is your confidence that there are “a lot more” based upon.

  • bowie1

    Looks like Elton John and his partner won’t be buying their fashions anymore!