Pakistani Christian Killed by Muslim Relatives, Wife Fighting for Life in Hospital

PakistanLAHORE, Pakistan (Morning Star News) Islamist groups are threatening the family and attorney of a young Christian man shot dead by Muslim in-laws who also wounded his wife over her decision to marry him and leave Islam, the attorney said.

Aleem Masih, 28, married Nadia, 23, last year after she put her faith in Christ.

“The couple fled to Narang Mandi, some 60 kilometers [37 miles] away from Lahore, as Nadia’s Muslim family launched a manhunt for them to avenge the shame their daughter had brought upon them by recanting Islam and marrying a Christian,” attorney Aneeqa Maria of The Voice Society told Morning Star News.

Maria said that the Christian couple had filed a petition in the Lahore High Court seeking police protection due to threats against them by Nadia’s family, who were also threatening Masih’s relatives.

On July 30, Nadia’s family received a tip that the couple would visit a doctor in Khaliqnagar, in the Youhanabad area, that evening, Maria said. Eyewitnesses said Nadia’s father, Muhammad Din Meo, along with her brothers, seized the driver of a three-wheeled rickshaw in which the couple were riding and abducted the couple, the attorney said. They took the couple to a nearby farm.

“The Muslim men first brutally tortured the couple with fists and kicks and then thrice shot Aleem Masih – one bullet hit him in his ankle, the second in the ribs while the third targeted his face,” the attorney said. “Nadia was shot in the abdomen.”

Maria said that the Muslim relatives left believing they had killed the couple.

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“The attackers returned to their village and publicly proclaimed that they had avenged their humiliation and restored the pride of the Muslims by killing the couple in cold blood,” she said. “Nadia’s brother, Azhar, then presented himself before the police and confessed to having killed his sister and her Christian husband.”

Police, however, found Nadia still breathing when they arrived at the farm.

“She was shifted to the General Hospital in Lahore, where she is fighting for her life after a major operation in which two bullets were removed from her abdomen,” said the lawyer.

Maria said that when she and her team visited the hospital, a large number of Muslims were gathered there.

“The mob, some of them armed with weapons, was shouting furious anti-Christian slogans,” she said. “They were also praising Azhar for restoring the pride of the Muslim Ummah [community] and saying that he had earned his place in paradise for killing an ‘infidel.’”

She found a similar display at the local police station, where a large number of Muslims had gathered to pressure police.

The next day officers registered a case against Azhar and others, including Nadia’s father, but police have not taken them into custody as they have been granted pre-arrest bail, she said.

Maria said the Muslim family and Islamist groups were now threatening her, demanding that she and the slain Christian’s family drop the case.

“We are pursuing the case nonetheless,” she said. “Murder in the name of religion and honor must not be allowed, and the perpetrators should be held accountable for this brutal act.”

The investigating officer in the case could not be reached for comment.

Blasphemy Charge

In Gujrat District of Punjab Province, three Christians including a pastor have been charged with blasphemy and terrorism for using the word “Rasool” (apostle) on posters referring to the pastor’s deceased father.

Pastor Aftab Gill and two other Christians were taken into custody in Nai Abadi, Gujrat, after police spotted posters that referred to clergyman Fazal Masih as Rasool in marking the 20th anniversary of his death.

Rasool in Pakistan is commonly used to refer to Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. The word is also used several times in the Urdu Bible as a translation of “apostle” and “disciple,” and it is used frequently in church sermons and in Christian writings.

“We have arrested three men, including the son of the priest, because they used the word Rasoolfor the late Fazal Masih,” said area police official Shahid Tanveer.

He said that officers had summoned local Muslim clerics and elders of the Christian community to the police station to consult them on the matter.

“The Christians organizing the event apologized and asked forgiveness, saying they had used the word to celebrate Masih’s services to Christianity, but the Muslim clerics refused to accept the apology,” Tanveer said. “A case under anti-terrorism law and blasphemy has been registered against the organizers, and three men have been arrested, while 11 others are at large.”

He did not explain why police filed terrorism charges, though the charge is often used in sensitive and high profile cases as it gives access to a fast-track trial.

The pastor’s brother, Unitan Gill, said that their father had established the local Biblical Church of God in Nai Abadi several years ago. His brother, Pastor Gill, runs a grocery shop in the area besides operating a small English teaching institute.

“My brother’s business was flourishing, and this caused anguish in the local Muslim community,” he said, asserting that area Muslims Rukhsar Butt, Umer Butt, Iftikhar Butt, Faisal Munir and others had instigated police to arrest the Christians “even though the matter did not warrant such harsh action.”

“The mala fide against us is evident, because a local policeman named Mukhtar Ahmed has been made complainant in the case,” Unitan Gill said.

Area residents said police prevented massive destruction by Muslims by arresting the Christians, as Muslims wanted to burn the Christians alive and set their houses and the Biblical Church of God building on fire over blasphemy accusations. There are about 100-120 Christian families in the neighborhood.

Christians, who make up around 2 percent of Pakistan’s population, have been increasingly targeted in recent years, often over allegations of blasphemy.


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  • Dave_L

    With all of the anti-christian indoctrination and propaganda, I believe Trump shows wisdom maintaining control of the conversation and control of the snakes he is handling, that is, snake handling in the Presbyterian sense.

    • Brenda Shelton

      I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT OF ALL PEOPLE TO ASK THIS QUESTION OF ANYONE HAS TO BE THE MOST IGNORANT ONE TO ASK FROM OF ALL PEOPLE ANDERSON COOPER WHO MAKES A LIVING LYING TO THE WORLD. THAT IS UNTIL HE DECIDED TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET NOT LONG AGO. DID HE ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS FOR THAT? HAS HE REPENTED OF THAT? NO HE HAS NOT AND IT IS CLEARLY IN THE BIBLE WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY WHAT HE WILL DO TO THE HOMOSEXUALS. HE DID NOT STUTTER EITHER. GOOD GRIEF, OF ALL QUESTIONS FOR HIM TO ASK.

      • Josey

        HYPOCRITE, Cooper is! Then again this world that advocates homosexuality isn’t wrong and now is the norm doesn’t think he needs to repent., although whether cooper thinks homosexuality is wrong or not wasn’t the point he was attempting to make, he doesn’t think it’s wrong, Cooper didn’t even bring homosexuality up, he was trying to set Trump up for toxic press, he failed. Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Cooper’s condemnation is sure and others like him unless he repents which means to go and sin no more.

        • amostpolitedebate

          You seem very angry about a complete stranger’s personal life.

      • Sheree

        I believe anything that comes from mentally ill Liberals- nothing surprises me anymore.

    • getstryker

      Please enlighten us . . . what do you mean: ‘snake handling in the Presbyterian sense?’ . . . I’ve never heard that term used that way before.

      • Dave_L

        Some Pentecostals literally handle snakes as a test of faith. This is hyper-literalism and foolish. I used the “handling of snakes” metaphorically (inside joke) to illustrate the toxic people (snakes) Trump is up against and his skillful handling of them.

        • getstryker

          Thank you . . .I was aware of the practice but believed that it was ‘rural and kinda out in left field’ – your comment just surprised me . . . Good use of the term ‘snake’ for anything on the ‘left’

        • Josey

          He’s very intelligent for sure. Just as the leaders in Christ’s day tried to trip and trap him which they failed in doing so, you can see the media trying the same thing to Trump and he is no Christ as he would be the first one to say he isn’t but he is quick on his feet and so far they haven’t trumped him as an expression in an old card game.

        • Jean Nelson

          Make that a very small group who call themselves Pentecostal. You need to know what you are talking about before you insert your foot down your throat

          • Dave_L

            Some Pentecostals means only that, some Pentecostals. This does not include all Pentecostals who are in error on other points of doctrine.

  • Gloria Olivieri Perri

    Everything Trump has said, is absolutely true. The news media is deliberately twisting what he’s saying to make him appear to be an ogre. The best thing about Trump as a candidate is that he hasn’t been bought by lobbyists and special interests. He believes in freedom for everyone and the immigrants who are not criminals get to stay here. He’s got my vote!!

    • SFBruce

      When has Trump said “immigrants who are not criminals get to stay here?” And I see no media twisting his words, they merely repeat them.

      • getstryker

        Right on the first statement . . . way off on the second . . .

      • Jessie Henson Long

        He was talking about ILLEGALS! Maybe you need to listen to what he said. Trump employs hundreds of immigrants. Learn the facts.

    • Emmanuel

      You are right, he does speak many truths. And those truths hurt and that is why liberal media is all over him. But, as for sin and forgiveness, not even close. I think atheists understand it better than Trump.

      • knight

        Emmanuel, he is honest, are you that perfect to put yourself in front of Donald Trump.

        James 2:14-26 New International Version (NIV)

        Faith and Deeds
        14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
        18 But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
        Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
        20 You foolish person, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[a]? 21 Was not our father Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”[b] and he was called God’s friend. 24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
        25 In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

        • Angel Jabbins

          Yes, he is honest and I do appreciate that about him. But, sadly he is lost and hell bound because one MUST admit they are a sinner and seek forgiveness through Christ to be saved. It is the only way. Seems a shame to me that he goes to church (apparently a liberal mainline one) week after week and doesn’t hear the gospel. If it were being preached there, he would either get saved or head out the door. The gospel is offensive to the pride of the natural man, especially to powerful, self sufficient men like Trump.

          And just like Trump, before we come to Christ, we all think we are good people doing good things. But compared to a holy God, we are wretched and all our so-called ‘good works’ are like filthy rags to Him. (Isaiah 64:6) Everyone of us has disobeyed God’s standard which is the 10 Commandments. I can honestly say I have violated every single one of them, probably many times over, if not outwardly, then inwardly. We can look just great on the outside, but God sees and judges the heart of each individual. It is when we are honest with ourselves about our sinful state that we are open to and desirous of the new life only Christ can give.

          No Christian is perfect, but Christians are saved from damnation through Christ’s sacrifice alone and are now in the process of being perfected, sanctified…a process that will not be completed until we get to heaven (no sin there!). As Christians, we still sin, but now we no longer enjoy sinning, we strive to sin less and less, and go to Christ to seek forgiveness when we do fail him.

          Those verses in James tell us what our lives will be like IF we have truly repented of our sins and trusted in the Savior. James is saying the way to recognize a true Christian is by growth in holiness and works consistent with one’s profession of faith. If not, then we are to question if that person was ever truly saved. I We are all at different stages of sanctification. It is a process, but there should be growth, evidence of new life.

          I pray for Mr.Trump. I hope he gets to read that article the blogger wrote and that God opens his heart soon….. to see that he DOES indeed need to seek the forgiveness of God.

          • knight

            The question is are you going to back Donald Trump or end up with another Obama

          • Josey

            I would back him over anyone running right now but will he get the republican nomination, it seems they have their sites set on bush going against Hillary. Can he change his party and run as an independent? He may have to if he is serious about going all the way because it looks like republicans hate him and then we have the electorate which I find ridiculous, each American vote should count as the popular vote. I hate the electorate!

          • getstryker

            Yes, despite all the negative rhetoric, Trump can definitely get the nomination unless he does or says something that blows up his campaign. He needs to stay in the Republican Party – running as an Independent will split the party and give the election to Hillary – liberals would love to see him go to a third party. Don’t pay a lot of attention to negative comments about Trump – the media is blowing things totally out of proportion – Trump’s polling numbers are great . . . conservatives love him. The rest takes time – be patient and let it work itself out.. Trump for President..2016

          • knight

            I hope he gets in, as the political system needs to be broken so it represents the people.

            The people need to send a clear message Trump or nothing, no Hilary, no Bush.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Amen to that.

          • Josey

            amen.

        • Josey

          I am not sure what you are saying to Emmanuel except I know some cases where Trump went out of his way and helped those who were down and out, unless that is what you mean by faith in action, if that is what you mean I get it.

          • getstryker

            I am aware of an incident where Trump did something quite wonderful to a couple he met. Trump is a good man – he’s tough and demanding but, I do believe he is a good man.

          • knight

            I take it that Emmanuel was putting him down and I did not like his tone.

            I like Donald Trumps attitude, and hope he is the person I see in him.

          • sandra-paquette-

            Donald Trump is the only man to get the job done. All the others running are spineless.

      • getstryker

        Pray for a ‘Damascus Road’ experience. . . . Trump is not the first ‘sinner’ to be called and used for a Godly purpose.

    • getstryker

      I agree with most of what you said but I don’t know that I heard Trump say that “immigrants (Illegal) who are no criminals get to stay” Please enlighten us.

      • JW Mack

        Listen to your own words. If you are here “illegally” you have broken the law and are now a criminal. Sheesh.

        • getstryker

          Thank you JW – – I do understand your consternation . . . I was inquiring as to Gloria Olivieri Perri’s comment which was just not clear to me. I read it several times and I believe that she was trying to say that ‘criminals captured who ARE illegal immigrants’ would be returned to their home countries . . . the part that I was trying to get clarified was her comment that she believed that Trump would NOT deport “the immigrants who are NOT criminals get to stay here’ – I absolutely agree with you – ‘Illegal immigrants’ ARE here ‘illegally’ and should be deported.- I will wait for her response to see if she concurs or not. Thanks for your comment.

    • Josey

      it’s still early so let’s not jump the gun just because he’s saying the things most are up in arms over doesn’t mean a thing. Remember how the republicans got both houses because they campaigned and said the things people wanted to hear but after they got both houses they have given Obama more authority rather than stop it, they lied,.

  • BeccaJoe

    It sounds like he believes in Christian Deism rather than in the God of the bible who desires a personal relationship with His people.

    • Tyler Mitchell

      I like Trump as a whole…but sadly he subscribes to the new modern type of Christian church.The Joel Osteen type of Christian…which is NOT Biblical!Christ said even are thoughts are full of sin.

      • D.Kermott

        I love how he doesn’t care what the media thinks of his answers. It’s making me think most Republicans in the Senate are not really Republicans but moles planted in case of a last-resort. It makes me wonder if Trump is just another snake waiting to strike. We need someone who knows who he is and is grounded in faith. He obviously has no clue what Christianity is all about. I’m not surprised Norman Vincent Peale (NVP) was his pastor. My dad used to say “Paul is appealing and Peale is appalling”. What could you expect from a Mason. If Trump is a mason taught by NVP then it’s obvious his god is not the God of the Bible. Masons worship Jah-Bul-On. We need a non-Mason President.
        It seems we have lots to choose from so far. Scott Walker all the way!

        • Josey

          Is Trump a mason? I guess I better look that up, that is the first I had heard of that and if he is that is a bad thing.

          • amostpolitedebate

            Why?

          • Jessie Henson Long

            Because Masons appear to be all good and do good deeds and they lure you in pretending to be a christian group. As you level up all that changes. My son-in-law tried convincing me they were Christian so I did my research. They have a point where they make you strip down and put a noose around your neck Also at one level they have you spit on the Bible and denounce God. Any group who does this is not of God.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            I cannot find anything that says he is. Most of our presidents have been Masons. Kind of late for some to be concerned about it now.

        • Jessie Henson Long

          Would you be amazed to learn that Billy Graham is a 33 degree Mason and that most politicians are Masons? Most of our Presidents have also been Masons. I was amazed to learn just how many religious leaders are also high degree Masons. I cannot find anything anywhere that says Donald Trump is a Mason. Also Norman Vincent Peale has been dead over 20 years so not sure how much influence he had on the man Trump is today.

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            You have proof that can back up the claim you made about Graham,Jessie? Bring it.

      • Josey

        True to some extent but Trump isn’t living in a fantasy world as Osteen is which imo there is hope for him yet. And many presidents claimed to be a Christian for example, Bush, but clearly by his actions he has proved otherwise, even so God uses all things for His purposes and glory but one think I like about Trump is there is no pretending to be what he knows he is not. Jesus said either be hot or cold for lukewarm water is good for nothing but to be spit out. I believe God can work with someone who is either cold or hot,

        • Tyler Mitchell

          True but keep in mind Bush was an universalist.Meaning he believes
          that all “religions” worship the same “God”

    • getstryker

      Oh, I would imagine he’s like any other person that calls himself a ‘Christian’ in America . . .it’s a ‘title’ to signify the faith he may have been raised up in – goes to church because it’s the thing to do on Sunday and hit’s the buffet for Sunday lunch. There are millions of ‘Sunday, go to church’ Christians . . . he’s just one of them . . . however, that does not mean that he has not been called by God for this time and this situation . . . I do believe that God, by the Holy Spirit, will deal with Mr. Trump concerning his salvation. In the meantime – Trump for President.

  • Emmanuel

    Dude needs to go sit in Jimmy Carter’s Sunday school class.

  • Harry Oh!

    Being questioned on anything spiritual by an openly gay, anti-Christian Nazi like Cooper is a complete joke and Trump should have refused to even discuss it.

    • getstryker

      Why not? I recognize that what you said about Cooper is correct but we got to see the condition of Trump’s heart towards God. Does it really matter who asked the question? It’s Trump’s answer that matters. Is he a ‘born-again, Holy Spirit filled Christian . . . not by the answer he gave . . . but, that does not mean that the Holy Spirit is not working on him . . .time will tell. Either way, I believe that Mr. Trump was raised up for a time such as this. Trump for President 2016

      • Josey

        I agree with you, God uses all things for His glory.

        • Jessie Henson Long

          Do we know if any of the others running are born-again? At least Trump answered honestly. He isn’t pretending to be while all the time doing the devils work.

    • Psk6565

      The questioning isn’t for Coopers sake. He is interviewing him.

    • amostpolitedebate

      I’m not sure you understand who the Nazis were or what they actually stood for.

  • Et Th

    Someone should explain the gospel to him.

  • Rodney Jordan

    I think the ideal candidate should be Christian. So tired of the downing of Christianity from Obama. Ideal candidate should also be able to turn loose the A-10s and Apaches. I think Trump could do that. As far as not being affiliated with special interests??? That’s an out & out lie. I can’t believe people don’t know what he does for a living. So much of his wealth comes from gambling and alcohol. Historically, tied in with those two, come prostitution and drugs. Tied in with all that is organized crime.

    • Dave_L

      “Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight….” (John 18:36)

      • Rodney Jordan

        Dave, Are you saying we shouldn’t find ISIS? What if a stranger was trying to cut your wife’s throat? Would you fight? What Jesus was referring to was no fight at that time. Jesus willingly gave his life. He was not executed. He gave it up for us. But to say there’s no time to fight? Ecclesiastes ch3 To every thing there is a season……..

        • Dave_L

          Who is “we”? The Church or the World?

          • Rodney Jordan

            There are Christians in the tank alongside non-Christians. Christians are just as likely to pull the trigger on ISIS as is a non-Christian. The difference? The Christian might pray that his bullet fly true and find its mark. You didn’t answer my question about the guy holding a knife against your wife’s throat. So I think this little conversation is over. Peace.

          • Dave_L

            Some questions to consider. What if ISIS is God’s judgement for homosexuality and abortion? Or other national sins? We know God repeatedly brought wicked armies against Old Testament Israel for their sins. He even says; “When the ways of people please the Lord, he causes even their enemies to be at peace with them.” (Proverbs 16:7, NRSV)

            As a Christian, how do you justify being unequally yoked together with unbelievers in the military when Paul tells us not to be?

            Killing in self defense is permissible under Old Testament Law. But if I pick a fight, is it really self defense?

            Just some thoughts I thought I’d share….

          • Rodney Jordan

            I’m done. Answer your own questions. Peace

          • Dave_L

            I’m sorry for your unwillingness to live the Sermon on the Mount. It is something Jesus expects from us. He never told us to join forces with the wicked and go around killing people. Please reconsider your position.

          • Josey

            No, but Jesus didn’t say not to defend your family either or go willingly. Jesus laid down His life willingly for our sins but the church has sat by saying nothing while our children are being taught things in schools that are anti christ, that’s just one example. I don’t know of any true Child of God going around killing people either.

          • Dave_L

            “If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.” (Exodus 22:2, KJV 1900)

            Often times Standing Armies become the thief. As a Christian I can remain unequally yoked together with unbelievers, that is, by not joining a military. And I can still defend myself and others on Christ’s terms. Even volunteer to help others without coming under their control. This is how America’s defense system worked originally.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            I am not sure that what our government is doing to other countries is right either. We don’t want them in our country telling us how to govern or live so what right does the U.S. have trying to dictate how they do? I am all for defending our country but not just going abroad to try and Americanize everyone else. Take care of the U.S. first because Lord knows we need help.

          • chiefwarrantofficer

            You are certainly picking and choosing when translation and or definition of the word used in that original 10 Commandments to fit your version of the religion/truth. There is a large difference between ‘killing” and “murder.”

          • Josey

            How do we know that our own lying government didn’t invent isis to use for their one world agenda and to take our American liberties away? We really don’t know, the mainstream media has proven it can’t be trusted. We can’t even be sure these shootings are not a creation of our government being that Obama wants to take guns away fron the America people. The only sure thing is God’s word.

          • chiefwarrantofficer

            Perhaps because ISIS existed long before Obama was even a senator much less the President?

          • chiefwarrantofficer

            And what if ISIS is God’s judgement for all the false versions of “christianity?” Perhaps you are the real unbelievers the God warned the world about?

          • Dave_L

            So what are the true versions of Christianity? Please be more specific.

          • chiefwarrantofficer

            I would suggest they are those that follow ALL the commandmants and not pick & choose which ones are convenient. Those, perhaps, that do not judge others but leave that to God alone. Those that do not presume that they know better than God who is or is not worthy of God’s love.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            John 7:24
            Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

          • amostpolitedebate

            What is ISIS is Gods punishment us for not being Muslims!?

          • Jessie Henson Long

            Christians should not be unevenly yoked. I know this is gonna cause some hateful remarks but so be it. I don’t know exactly how to say this except just let it go. I really find it offensive to be labeled as a Judeo/Christian. We are believers in Christ and have accepted Him. Jews deny his existence. They reject any belief in Him.
            Jesus ridiculed the scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 22; 23. Mark 7; 12:38-40. Luke 11. John 8). That was just one of the reasons why the Jews killed Jesus in the New Testament story, and that is one of the reasons why the Jewish Talmud says that Jesus is boiling in excrement in hell.
            The Talmud is one of the most major of all books in Judaism after the Torah. The Talmud covers every aspect of Jewish Life. Everything from what Jews wear and say, to how they act towards others and treat them.
            Judaism, all but reform Jews, treat anyone who is not a Jew as a, sorry for lack of a better word I must say, dog. By the Talmud, if you are not a Jew you are not human! And, if you are not human, then you are equivalent to an animal.
            The Talmud is at times a very hate filled book. The Ultra-Orthodox and the Orthodox as well as Conservative Jews take it and place it a bit higher than the Torah. This is also why Judaism for the most part will not allow converts!

            Some believe the Jews will be saved when they see Jesus. That is a lie. They have already seen Him. The Bible says God’s chosen people are those who are not Jews outwardly but inwardly.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            Romans 2:29
            But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            The scripture that was quoted was only a part of the verse. Below is the entire verse.

            King James Bible

            Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

          • Dave_L

            Does the rest of the verse change the meaning of the first part? God sees no difference between unbelieving Jews and unbelieving Gentiles. Those who call themselves Jews and are not…. Revelation 2:9

            Also, if you demand we quote an entire verse, you need to quote entire Books of the New Testament as they originally didn’t have verses or paragraphs.

          • Jessie Henson Long

            We is the Church. Not the building but those who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior.

          • Dave_L

            Please read Rodney’s post I’m replying to. My question to him amounts to this; Is it the Christian’s’ place to fight wars or is it the world’s?

            2 Corinthians 10:4–5 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

            5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

      • Jessie Henson Long

        Let’s see the whole verse…..King James BibleJesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

        • Dave_L

          Does the rest of the verse change the meaning of the first part? God sees no difference between unbelieving Jews and unbelieving Gentiles. Those who call themselves Jews and are not…. Revelation 2:9

          Also, if you demand we quote an entire verse, you need to quote entire Books of the New Testament as they originally didn’t have verses or paragraphs.

    • Jessie Henson Long

      The Trump Organization.[3][4] The company has interests in real estate development, investing, brokerage, sales and marketing, and property management. The company owns, operates, invests, and develops residential real estate, hotels,resorts, residential towers, and golf courses in different countries, as well as owning several hundred feet of prime Manhattan real estate in New York City. The organization also has a stake in Trump Entertainment Resorts, which owns and operates the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Plaza, and the Trump Marinacasinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey. Together with NBC, the Trump Organization additionally owns the Miss USA, Miss Teen USA, and Miss Universe franchises.

      The company serves as the principal holding company for Trump’s business ventures and investments. With investments within the United States, Europe, Asia, and other parts of the world, The Trump Organization is primarily involved in real estate, construction, hospitality, and entertainment but has maintained a presence in a wide variety of industries including book and magazine publishing, media, model management, retail, financial services, board game development and video game publishing, food and beverages, business education, online travel, airlines, and beauty pageants.

      In addition to real estate, other business operations within the company include restaurants, a modeling agency and beauty pageants; public skating rink management; and a television production company that produces television programs which include the reality television programme, The Apprentice. Furthermore, the company engages in retailing providing low quality fashion apparel, home furnishings, jewelry and accessories, books, chocolate bars, furniture, lighting products, bath textiles and accessories, bedding and home fragrance products, small leather goods, crystal stemware, barware and gifts, and bottled spring water.[5]

      The organization is owned and managed by the Trump family with Donald Trump as its CEO and three of his eldest children —Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump— serving as Executive Vice Presidents (EVP) within the organization.

      • sandra-paquette-

        Yes, Trump has all this behind him, and couldn’t run a country according to some people. I don’t think they could get anyone better. But, they thought a community organizer could run a country, doesn’t have a Birth-certificate and who is a muslim, and his step-brother lives in Kenya and has quite a history like the rest of his family and we could go on and on about Obama and is destruction to America on purpose. No Obama is no fool he knew just how to destroy and bring down America and get away with it. The traitor should be behind bars as well as Hillary and the rest of them. No America need Trump more than ever if they want to survive.

  • JanieLou

    believing in God and taking communion doesn’t mean a thing if you don’t believe in the gospel of Christ as your Savior which in turn then you would realize your sinful ways and not trying to explain that you don’t think you need forgiveness. This guy is lost! He needs prayer. this excites me to think that this was actually said on TV! The scripture and everything!

    • Josey

      Just proves that God can and does use everything for His glory. Even though Cooper was trying to set Trump up just as the religious leaders tried to do to Christ only Trump isn’t Christ but inmo I think Trump did a great job in answering the questions, he didn’t sidetrack as Hillary does or as other politicians do, he answered honestly and we know where he stands and can pray for Trump accordingly.

      • sandra-paquette-

        I just pray someone comes across Donald’s path and leads him and can show him the right way the the Lord. All we can do is pray, and prayer is powerful.

    • Jessie Henson Long

      Yes because Satan knows and believes in God……. King James BibleThou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

    • sandra-paquette-

      This is the fault of the churches to-day the teaching. They don’t teach the gospel. You take a lot of these Mega churches it is a feel good message, and good works. This is so sad. As Jeremiah said “And my people love it so.” The big lie. The people don’t want the truth. They want the false gospel. The feel good message. Like from Joel Osteen and Rick Warren. And the only way is through the cross.

  • Ray Klassen

    For all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. We have all sinned. We all need to truly REPENT and TURN AWAY from our sins and ACCEPT Jesus as our propitiation, and as our personal Lord and Saviour. Even Anderson Cooper. I mean… Isn’t he gay?!

    • getstryker

      He ‘came out’ a while back. He is definitely gay according to his own admission.

    • Psk6565

      No, he isn’t gay. He commits sexual sin.

      • amostpolitedebate

        No I’m pretty sure he’s gay.

    • Jessie Henson Long

      Yes he is. Among other things corrupt.

    • sandra-paquette-

      Yep, that’s the joke of it all.

  • Linda Thomas

    It would be better to pray for Trump. There are so many different (supposed) ways to be saved. But according to Scripture, we must repent, and we must ask Christ Jesus to come into our lives and hearts and save us from (our) sins. There isn’t a religion on earth that complies with Scripture. Each church has a different method of doing something as simple as getting and being Saved. I believe he is walking a way that he knows. He’s Catholic, lets pray for his salvation, and not worry about how it happens. If he believes he is saved, there isn’t a man or woman on earth that should stand against him. Let’s let our Father take care of that. We have a man in the White House who proclaimed to be a Christian. His DEEDS have proved him otherwise…

    • Jessie Henson Long

      He isn’t Catholic.

      • Jessie Henson Long

        I’m Protestant. I’m Presbyterian.

  • A D Heath

    Luntz, Peale, Trump. Not exactly “go to” people for sound theology. Ridiculous story.

  • JW Mack

    Does anyone else find it ironic that a practicing, unrepentant homosexual is asking questions to Trump about needing to ask for forgiveness? Hello kettle, I’m pot, you’re black.

    • amostpolitedebate

      Cooper isn’t the one pretending to be a devout conservative Christian.

  • GEM

    He is not presidential material. He speaks the truth on immigration, but his manner is horrible.

    • getstryker

      So if Clinton lies, but speaks ‘nice’ – that’s not only ok but presidential too?
      If Obama lies and speaks ‘nice’ – that’s also ok and presidential too?
      But . . . If Mr.Trump speaks the truth, he does it bluntly, harshly and pointedly without apology . . . that’s NOT nice so it’s also NOT presidential . . . so to wrap this all up . . . you would vote for the guy who speaks softly and lies – cause ‘that’s nice’ . . . and . . . that’s also your idea of presidential material – whew!

      • Josey

        you get it, just goes to show how far down the crazy hole people have gone, as long as they speak in political correctness, who cares how many lies the speak along the way, (sarcasm)

        • sandra-paquette-

          That’s why we are in the mess we are in POLITICAL CORRECTNESS AND the screwball Liberals

      • Oboehner

        If they speak the truth nicely, they get demonized and labeled as kooks.

      • amostpolitedebate

        The problem isn’t his candor. The problem is that he’s a narcissistic crazy person.

        • Jessie Henson Long

          Crazy like a fox and at least he is respected by other countries. Something Obama and the U.S. are not at this time.

      • amostpolitedebate

        Also, yes. Knowing when to keep your mouth shut is a pretty important characteristic for a president to have. A LOT of people hear your words in that position and something said inarticulately could have surprisingly negative results (failed deals, wars, market crashes, etc).

        • Jessie Henson Long

          Trump has vast dealings with heads of other countries. He must know how to conduct himself otherwise he would not have such good relationships with them.
          He is being attacked by all sides now including the party he belongs to so I cannot fault him for hitting back.

    • Josey

      He’s not worried about political correctness, I for one am sick of pc and the politicians who spout it, I think the majority of Americans are sick of it too! Time to speak from the heart and stop worrying about what people in the political arena think. Most of them wish they had spoke up as Trump is doing now but their boats have already sunk so all they can do is criticize the man. Now, with that being said, my vote goes to Jesus Christ, I pray Come quickly Lord Jesus, Come and make things right! The only way out of the mess this world is in is through Jesus Christ and He alone but if God grants us a little more time by using Trump which I find interesting that his name is TRUMP as in Revelation, don’t know if it means anything but just interesting. God’s will be done on earth as it is in Heaven. We are at war, a spiritual war.

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        Yes God’s Will be done. Yes we are in a spiritual war. Sometimes it seems like evil is winning.But in the end it is God who wins:)

      • amostpolitedebate

        I find it odd that the kneejerk reaction when Christian’s don’t get their way is to start begging God to end the world. I have to say, if I were God I wouldn’t appreciate the sentiment very much.

    • Sheree

      So vote for the other 15 wimps- let Hilliary win & lose your country forever!
      From a non-American who loves America.

      • amostpolitedebate

        Don’t be hyperbolic. You’d get another chance in four years.

    • Jessie Henson Long

      He is better material than the one now. Or the other candidates for that matter.

  • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

    I do not want another Obama. But I pray for the Will of God to be done even if I do not understand it at this time.

    • Dave_L

      “And he (king Nebuchadnezzar) was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.” (Daniel 5:21, KJV 1900)

      “It is I who by my great power and my outstretched arm have made the earth, with the people and animals that are on the earth, and I give it to whomever I please.” (Jeremiah 27:5, NRSV)

      “He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, And lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, To set them among princes, And to make them inherit the throne of glory: For the pillars of the earth are the LORD’s, And he hath set the world upon them.” (1 Samuel 2:8, KJV 1900)

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        Amen.God is so great. He knows what He is doing even when we don’t.

  • FoJC_Forever

    The hypocritical irony of someone immersed in Sin trying to pin someone else down on the issue of Repentance is completely satanic. Copper is merely a tool of the Devil.

  • Kim Mohney Brown

    At least Trump believes in God and our Flag and will work to bring them both to the forefront if elected. I really don’t think it is up to Anderson Cooper to GRILL anyone on their personal relationship with God. That is between God and that person. I cannot believe some of the responses thought such as “I believe Atheist’s understand it better than Trump”, really? Trump does believe in God so right their he is leaps and bounds ahead of the atheist. Another says he’s “hell bound” oh really? Are you God because I thought God was the only one who could say who’s going to heaven and who’s going to hell. I could go on but my point is when you are pointing a finger there are 4 more pointing right back at ya. I would hope instead of the negativity towards a man that believes in God, goes to church, financially supports the church and does his best to live a pretty descent life that “Christians” would be praying that he will reflect on the conversation and maybe decide to repent. It’s a shame that the first response is to throw him under the bus with negativity. Keep up the good work Donald Trump and keep the faith.

    • amostpolitedebate

      “I really don’t think it is up to Anderson Cooper to GRILL anyone on their personal relationship with God.”

      You don’t think it’s important whether or not a self-proclaimed Christian candidate for president actually has a relationship with the God he claims to hold so dear?

  • Larry G

    Mr trump, we all make mistakes, it is called sin, and we need to seek forgiveness through the blood of the lamb. We are not forgiven through going to church, nor communion, nor baptism, but faith in Christ alone. In doing that we become born of the Spirit of God and receive eternal life.

  • Psk6565

    Trump doesn’t adhere to what Scripture says, whatever! At least he is honest. I wouldn’t vote for the guy.

  • Elijah MacDougall

    His theology is completely backwards. At best he’s a sympathetic deist. That does not make him a Christian. He likes the idea of God, but he doesn’t know Yahweh.

    • Jessie Henson Long

      There are so many “christians” today that do not know the Lord and only wear the title.

  • DAN JOHNS

    I am an ex-gay…who became a BORN AGAIN BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST…and unashamed of this fact…
    (take note homosexuals: BY….YES!….CHOICE)
    The reason I am speaking out in FAVOR of TRUMP’S run for president is to say this:
    Unlike ALL the other candidates… he DOES NOT tip-toe around issues….
    he SAYS WHAT HE MEANS…..AND MEANS WHAT HE SAYS…
    many are calling him
    an opportunist….well…..
    they are ALL opportunist…as far as I can see…
    is he PERFECT?….
    Like people expect him to be….
    well go to your bathroom….look in the mirror…and ask the same question….
    would he make a great president…
    (God has not given me that answer…
    yet)…but…he knows business….he knows how to negotiate…he certainly knows how to
    handle the media…
    and the MAIN reason I would support him is this….
    HE DOES NOT WALK IN FEAR….(REMEMBER BELIEVERS:”FEAR IS OF THE DEVIL”)…
    Christians want a Christian leader…well…that just may not happen…so the next best thing is someone who is FEARLESS…not politically correct….not always trying to please special interest groups…
    or lobbyists…or even his own political party…the fact is he is NOT….AFRAID…
    ..A MAN….
    who is not afraid….in a country (AMERICA)….who’s people are being programmed every day to be fearful to say anything against what they believe to be TRUTH…
    homosexuality is a sin…and an abomination to
    the ONE WHO REALLY MATTERS…JEHOVAH GOD….
    are we in the day where we can no longer say that….because of FEAR….
    TRUMP may not be CHRISTIAN…but I believe he is definitely NOT FEARFUL….
    GOD BLESS AMERICA…
    TRUMP 2016.

    • getstryker

      That was extremely well said . . . I am very happy to call you “Brother in the Lord” Thank you for your comment.

      • DAN JOHNS

        I am NOT….the ONLY…..ONE…..people NEED to know that.

    • sandra-paquette-

      Right on! If any of the other Republican’s are voted in, it will be the same old, same old. And possibly get worse cause it is going to take a man who understand the financial side of the whole mess. And he certainly can lead and would let the Army do the job they want to do. Not like Obama who totally destroyed it and would not let them do their job (this was done on purpose)by Obama. It boggles my mind how they could not impeach him. But, God does have a way of working and because we put him out of courts, schools, hospitals, everywhere and imbrace foreign gods this is what happens. God in return turns his back, until the people come in repentance. Again I think Trump and Ted Cruz would be a good pair.

      • DAN JOHNS

        I am NOT…..the ONLY ONE….people NEED to know that…AMERICA MUST REPENT….and TURN FROM THERE WICKED WAYS.

    • DAN JOHNS

      I am NOT…the ONLY…ONE….people NEED to know that.

    • Jean Nelson

      Thank you for posting. It is very rare that you ever hear a homosexual saying I asked God to help me. That leads me to believe most don’t want any. So happy for you that you have that awesome connection with Jesus. I have heard of others but they must have them stuffed in a closet with a pillow in their mouth by the liberals who fear that there really could be deliverance and then on to FREEDOM

      • DAN JOHNS

        Thank you Jean….just remember this…I am a “NEW CREATURE” in CHRIST…,no longer a practicing homosexual….”Whom the Son sets free…is FREE indeed”….GOD BLESS.

  • sandra-paquette-

    “Why do I Need to Repent …If I Am Not Making Mistakes? Donald Trumps says, this is the trouble with a lot of the churches to-day. Strange how the media know what subjects to pick on to make someone look bad, regardless of what they are them selves. The average politician would of gotten stomped on. But, Donald is refreshing, they can’t shut him up, he calls it for what it is. And when a guy like Anderson interviews him they don’t get away with it like they do to other politicians cut them off while speaking he just talks over them and carries on. Love him. How refreshing they don’t own him, he is his own man not like the other wimps. And above all he is telling the truth that is what they are scarred off. It works every time. THE TRUTH. Hope he comes in a debate with the old witch Hillary. But then who ever is running the debate may not allow him to finish speaking they would probably tell him his time is up and defend her. And this is what is so unfair they defend the evil one every time.

  • Darrell Horton

    I don’t think Trump says this very clearly, but I think he’s Got the right idea. True repentance is admitting your wrong doing AND trying to make things right; trying to do better. It is also doing your best not to do wrong things; to lead a “righteous life.”
    I think too many people have a warped, self-serving concept about “repentance.” Repentance is not a show you put on in front of others – with wailing and crying for the sake of drawing attention to yourself and getting sympathy. And I get so tired of seeing people who use “repentance” as a kind of get-out-of-jail-free card that they use so they can keep on sinning and sinning and sinning. That is not repentance. That is perversion and blasphemy.