Tunisia Jails Six Students for Homosexual Behavior

two menTunis (AFP) A court in Tunisia has sentenced six students to three years in jail each on charges of homosexuality in a judgment condemned by rights activists, their lawyer said on Monday.

The court in Kairouan last week handed down the maximum term under a controversial article of the criminal code that criminalizes sex between males, Boutheina Karkni said.

The six were also banned from the central city for five years after they complete their sentences, she said.

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  • 201821208 :)

    “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.” Rom. 1:26-27

    • PietjePuk

      Care to read Roman 2 as well? Roman 1 acts as an introduction to the real meaning of Paul in Roman 2:

      2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

      Maybe you should start repenting for your contempt for his kindness…

      • Names_Stan

        Well done. The post you replied to contains a passage that is pasted here almost daily.

        But this:

        You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things…So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

        This will be “explained” to you. They will tell you “what it REALLY means is blah blah blah”.
        And the one sure, positive, absolute is that it won’t mean what it says.

      • Coach

        As Paul Washer said “twist not scripture lest ye be like Satan”

        • PietjePuk

          I couldn’t agree more with Mr. Paul.
          I also don’t like selective, out of context quoting of scripture…

      • RewindMyMind

        You accuse people of passing judgement for believing God who has already passed judgement on the homosexers!!
        You falsely accuse your fellow man!!

        • PietjePuk

          god never passed judgment on loving and caring same sex relationships.
          love is god, god is love.
          go read a book christianity for dummies. might help …

          • RewindMyMind

            …and you are a liar!!
            Romans 1 tells it all!!

          • PietjePuk

            Thanks for bringing Romans 1 up. The most misinterpreted and out of context quoted chapter of the bible.

            Don’t you know that Romans 1 has nothing to do with loving and caring same sex relationships?

            don’t you know that Romans 1 is only the introduction to Romans 2? Don’t you know that Romans 1 (and 2) is there especially for your ilk?

            Read Romans 2 and repent:

            You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things…So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

          • RewindMyMind

            Romans 1 is straight forward in it’s language …there is no misinterpretation.

            Romans two is not saying to turn away from God’s judgement!!

            Read this part again very very carefully!! …So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment?

            Do you see that????? …”and yet do the same things”!!

            You are a fake and a fraud and blaspheme the word of God!!
            The word of the Lord has special warning for your kind!!

          • PietjePuk

            So now who is being judgmental?

          • RewindMyMind

            You!!

          • PietjePuk

            Hahaha you are funny….

          • RewindMyMind

            I pointed out the facts!! …

          • PietjePuk

            As did I

          • PietjePuk

            Again, romans 1 does not talk about loving, caring same sex relationships. It talks about:

            21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

            24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

            26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

            28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

            So it talks about people that do not honor god, but pray to other gods. to have dark hearts, etc. For that reason god gave them over to lust and other depravity. and lots of other things.

            How does this reflect on a god loving human being that is in a monogamous, loving and caring same sex relationship? Not at all.
            So Romans 1 can not be interpreted as having anything to do with loving and caring same sex relationships.

            But there is more, and that is romans 2. And that tells you not to judge other people for whatever sins, because every body sins.

            I know I am a sinner in many ways. But the love for my husband is not part of that. So I try not to judge others. Especially not for what they are. Rather I look for their fruits and if I judge, I try to judge based on their fruits. Because no bad fruit can come from a good tree, and no good fruit can come from a bad tree.

          • RewindMyMind

            Sorry …homosex is homosex. Can’t change the fact Roman 1 covers it with the very wording.

        • NGN

          your god is a man made construct…nothing more

          • RewindMyMind

            God is and God has spoken!!
            Your filthy sexual lust is made in your own mind!! …nothing more!!

          • rcvj

            Why do Christians have such a hang up about sex? If you don’t care for it, don’t do it. Just leave others to follow their own inclinations.

          • RewindMyMind

            People were until your crowd made it all ever so public!!
            It is your crowd that refuses to leave the rest of us alone!!

            btw …it is far from just Christians that are sickened by the queers and their relentless bullying and false accusations of others!!!!

          • http://invasioneurope.disq.us John E. Quest 2015

            Tunisia is a Muslim country.

      • Becky

        You are so mistaken. Paul is still talking about those that are not following God’s laws. 201821208 🙂 stopped on Romans 1:27, but it continues. I’ll start where he left off. Let’s read this together, shall we…

        “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, NOT ONLY DO THE SAME BUT ALSO APPROVE OF THOSE WHO PRACTICE THEM.” Romans 1:28-32 (added emphasis).

        It’s referring to the list of sinners who do/condone those sins. Then in Romans 2:1, Paul blasts them for also being hypocrites, “…for you who judge practice the same things.”

        Homosexuality is an abomination against God and it’s also a sin to condone it. It’s a sin to condone any sin.

  • Coach

    Why is this news? They were properly punished for their crime, in a America, they’d be praised for their sin.

    • John N

      ‘Love the sinner, hate the sin’ as understood by a real christian.

      • Valri

        Punishing people for expressing love. Unreal.

        • The Last Trump

          That wasn’t love.
          That was sexual perversion. Some folks still have morals Val.
          Doesn’t mean that you should hate them for it.
          Live and let live, remember?
          You just don’t get to tell other cultures how to live.

          • John N

            And this us why christian fundamentalists and moslim fundamentalist are exactly alike. They both claim they have the godgiven right to push their ‘objective’ but outdated moral values onto other people.

            And as we see here they both love punishing people for not performing to their standards.

            Christianity an Islam – one of a kind.

          • Names_Stan

            Truth is a few of these folks are terribly jealous of countries with Islamic law and totally can’t understand why True Christians™ can’t rule here in the same vein.

            Of course, we would have to call them “Comrade” and hope they didn’t take a personal dislike to us and just make some stuff up so they could stone us.

            But probably Jefferson and Madison and Washington were secretly in favor of that…they were just misunderstood.

          • Valri

            With The Last Trump, you will never get acknowledgement that two people of the same sex can be in love. It’s instantly dismissed and called perversion, because apparently this is what Jesus would do.

          • StanW

            And yet it is Muslims that kill gay people for no other reason than being gay?

          • Valri

            Yes, the Christians just shame and guilt them into miserable lives and suicide.

          • StanW

            Waaaaaaaa, those Christians hurt my widdle feewings. At least the Muslims only torture and murder me.

          • Valri

            Right, all you do is threaten them with eternal hellfire. Much nicer.

          • StanW

            You mean as opposed to beheading them, hanging them, throwing them off of buildings, or stoning them.

            At least with Christians, they have an opportunity to stay alive!

          • Valri

            Aren’t you kind.

          • StanW

            Yes I am. I pray for the gay people that I know and wish them the best.

          • Valri

            As long as they repent and change.

          • StanW

            Yes, that is the nature of sin and it is what Jesus required d of EVERYONE He encountered.

          • Valri

            It isn’t a sin to fall in love. It’s what happens when you are a human being.

          • StanW

            What would you know about being a human being?

          • The Last Trump

            Amen!
            Now you’re talking, sister!
            Can we get a “hallelujah”?!

          • Valri

            Repent – for something they have no control over and cannot change?

            What you really want Trumpy is for them all to live loveless and lonely lives. This apparently is the “Christian” way. Or to live in loveless sham straight marriages. That’s horrible.

          • Becky

            Oh, they most certainly can change and many have…just google it. Actually, we already knew that it’s a choice and they can change. Paul makes it clear…

            “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Cor 6:9-11

          • John N

            >’Oh, they most certainly can change and many have…just google it’

            Right, because everything you can google is the thruth. Even if it is contradicted by all scientific evidence.

            >’Actually, we already knew that it’s a choice and they can change. Paul makes it clear’

            Right, because everything in the bible is the thruth. Especially if you pick out and even edit the quotes to make it according your personal dislikes.

            By the way, I was not aware that Paul was a expert in homosexuality. Why trust his knowledge more than that of actual scientists today?

          • Becky

            All scientific evidence? Ah, yes. The homosexuals anthem, “Born that way”. Got news for ya, that song isn’t evidence. Fact remains, there isn’t a shred of evidence. Homosexuals figure the more they belt it out, the more believeable it will be. That’s how they live their lives, a complete and utter lie.

          • John N

            If you want an overview of the scientific research done on the origins of human sexual orientation, check the Wikipidia-lemma on Biology and sexual orientation.

            The conclusion at this moment, as the British Professor of Psychology Michael King states, s “that it is a human characteristic that is formed early in life, and is resistant to change. Scientific evidence on the origins of homosexuality is considered relevant to theological and social debate because it undermines suggestions that sexual orientation is a choice.”

            Now even if it would have been a choice, that would be no different from you who chose to belief in a deity without any evidence of his existence. So what about living a complete and utter lie?

          • Becky

            By God’s grace, the word of God is sufficient for me. Sadly, it isn’t for you.

            “There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.” Source: American Psychological Association 2015

          • NGN

            The bible isn’t an authority on anything much less reparative therapy. You are a sheltered person who has no idea about the outside world. Please continue to stay in your “closet”

          • rcvj

            The word of God is sufficient, yet you quote the American Psychological Assoc.

          • Becky

            Over your head, is it? The quote wasn’t for my sake. Maybe if you took the time to read the context in which it was presented you’d be able to grasp that.

          • John N

            Thank you for submitting yourself the evidence of homosexuality not being just a choice.

            The word of your god has no more relevance in this discussion than the word of the gods Odin, Zeus or Baal. Untill provided with evidence of their existence, humanity stands alone in finding a way to incorporate people of different sexual orientation in our society.

          • Valri

            I know it’s not a choice, but I always wonder why people care whether it is or not.

          • Valri

            I was going to respond, but John N did it beautifully so I don’t need to.

            You cannot change your sexuality, it’s the hand you are dealt. Look up the page on sexuality on the American Psychological Association website. And then look up Exodus International, the largest “ex-gay” association in the world, who closed their doors a year or two ago admitting fraud and apologizing to the LGBT population.

          • NGN

            JONAH (repartive therapy) also closed its doors recently and are paying huge fines to the people they tried to “cure”

          • Valri

            Exodus should have to pay as well. Especially since they admitted they were frauds.

          • Coach

            Actually wishing them the best is ultimately to wish them to be saved. Salvation is of the Lord.

            “There is none righteous, no, not one;
            11 There is none who understands;
            There is none who seeks after God.
            12 They have all turned aside;
            They have together become unprofitable;
            There is none who does good, no, not one.”
            13 “Their throat is an open tomb;
            With their tongues they have practiced deceit”;
            “The poison of asps is under their lips”;
            14 “Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness.”
            15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
            16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
            17 And the way of peace they have not known.”
            18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
            19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

            God’s Righteousness Through Faith
            21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.

      • Coach

        I don’t see how that Ghandi quote is relevant, please explain.

        • John N

          Why ask me? It is the christian’s usual excuse to discriminate people that are different.

  • Emmanuel

    Hey lefties, it’s time to pack your bags and take your show on the road to Tunisia.

    • acontraryview

      Actually, it sounds like Tunisia would be the perfect place for fundamentalist Christians. How happy they would be getting to punish people who don’t agree with their religious views.

      • Emmanuel

        Why go to a place that has morals and principles and preach? we need to preach in a place like America that has none. But, for you and your secular friends, you need to go out in to all the world, try to spread your “love” and try to remove morals and principles. Are you packed and ready?

        • PietjePuk

          Please read Romans 2 and repent….

          • Emmanuel

            LOL, repent! I’m good with God.

          • PietjePuk

            You might be good with god, but that doesn’t mean it is the other way around. I copied it in for you.

            2 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things. 2 Now we know that God’s judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. 3 So when you, a mere human being, pass judgment on them and yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4 Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, forbearance and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance?

          • Coach

            Why are you posting this? If a practicing homosexual condemns homosexuals, I could understand. Satan quoted scripture in trying to tempt Jesus.

            Repent and put your faith in Jesus Christ.

            Eternal hellfire is no laughing matter and don’t assume we’re making some kind of threat, if that were the case we’d be like moslims trying to manipulate you into a superficial faith. Truth be told a homosexual man could stop practicing homosexuality, marry a woman and attend a Bible believing church weekly for the rest of his life, serve, sing in the choir, etc. and still go to hell. Jesus said you must be born again, not as some cliché, but as reality.

            Unless He saves you, you will die in your sins and God will be glorified in pouring out His wrath on you, casting you into the lake of fire. It is by His grace that you have exposure to truth from Christians on this site, but not a moment is promised and judgement is worse for those who reject truth, than for a terrorist who never heard truth.

            Consider consciously remembering how you rejected and mocked the truth while you are tormented.
            I love you and don’t want that for you, but understand this, you’ve sinned against an infinitely holy God who poured out His wrath on Jesus Christ, the holy Son of God. He became sin who knew no sin, that we might become the righteousness of God. Don’t despise His patience and forbearance, as you’ve stated. “God’s kindness is intended to lead you to repentance”

          • PietjePuk

            I am not condemning anybody. And definitely no homosexuals.
            Reading your words, more of jesus his teachings comes to mind:

            13-14 You Pharisees and teachers of the Law of Moses are in for trouble! You’re nothing but show-offs. You lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. You won’t go in yourselves, and you keep others from going in.[b]

            Or the other part of the same paragraph:

            2 The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. 3 So obey everything they teach you, but don’t do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else.

            4 They pile heavy burdens on people’s shoulders and won’t lift a finger to help. 5 Everything they do is just to show off in front of others. They even make a big show of wearing Scripture verses on their foreheads and arms, and they wear big tassels[a] for everyone to see. 6 They love the best seats at banquets and the front seats in the meeting places. 7 And when they are in the market, they like to have people greet them as their teachers.

            8 But none of you should be called a teacher. You have only one teacher, and all of you are like brothers and sisters. 9 Don’t call anyone on earth your father. All of you have the same Father in heaven. 10 None of you should be called the leader. The Messiah is your only leader. 11 Whoever is the greatest should be the servant of the others. 12 If you put yourself above others, you will be put down. But if you humble yourself, you will be honored.

            Or regarding judgement:

            7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

            3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

            And even if you can’t hold yourself, you have to judge righteously. Jesus his explanation of what righteously means:

            18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

            So don’t behave like a teacher, as you are not. Do not deny others the kingdom, because you will suffer for it. Don’t judge others, as you will be judged accordingly. And If you still want to judge, judge righteously by judging the fruit of a tree.

            Homosexuality itself is not a sin. Love can never be a sin. If you would understand anything of your bible, it would be that. Love god and love your neighbor, there are no commandments more important than those.

            Fact: jesus never condemned homosexuality.
            Fact: jesus excused man from marriage if it was not for them (born eunuchs, man made eunuchs and celibate priests, concluding with anybody for who marriage is not their thing), without any condemnation
            Fact: paul, in romans 1 calls homosexuality (in the context of lust and orgies) a sin, but also says not to judge, as you yourself are guilty of sin as well. This means that homosexuality (in te context of lust and orgies) is no worse sin than any other.
            Fact: your favorite part of the bible, the part of genesis that is dealing with sodom and gomorrah, had nothing to do with homosexuality. That is a construct invented about 500 years after the death of jesus.
            Fact: there are at least three same sex relationships in the bible that are not being condemned in any way.

          • Coach

            The Lord rebuke you.

          • BarkingDawg

            So, you say.

            Are you claiming to know what God is thinking?

        • acontraryview

          “we need to preach in a place like America that has none.”

          Assuming you live in America, if America has no morals and principles, that would mean you have no morals and principles. Therefore, you should not be preaching.

          “try to remove morals and principles.”

          I have no desire to remove morals and principles.

    • BarkingDawg

      I think that that is the best place for Evangelicals to move.

      • Emmanuel

        So are you packed?

  • SFBruce

    This is an obscene human rights violation, especially when you read the details of their treatment. Even if you believe physical intimacy between members of the same sex should be discouraged there is zero evidence that punishing gay people makes them straight. Furthermore, putting gay people in the only environment in which otherwise heterosexual individuals engage in same sex activities makes absolutely no sense. In US prisons, smaller, weaker men, both gay and straight are often the victims of sexual aggression from men who consider themselves straight. This is deeply misguided, both from a moral and practical perspective.