‘Transgender’ Teacher to Open Private K-12 School for Homosexual Youth in Georgia

chalkboardATLANTA — A female teacher who identifies as a male is set to open a private school for homosexual and transgender youth in Georgia later this year.

The “Pride School of Atlanta” will teach children K-12 beginning in September, and will operate out of a Unitarian Universalist facility in the city. The first of its kind educational institution will cost $13,000 a year in tuition fees.

Founder Christian Zsilavetz, 45, says that she never felt support while teaching as a male in public schools, and decided to found her own school where children could be open about their homosexuality or transgender desires.

“Kids have full permission to be themselves—as well as educators—where there’s no wondering, ‘Is this teacher going to be a person for me to be myself with?’” she told the Associated Press. “This is a place where they can just open up and be the best person they can be.”

Zsilavetz also asserted that the school will reduce the risk of suicide, drug and alcohol use, and depression.

“They’re less likely to get pregnant, when they don’t really want to get pregnant,” she said.

Public reaction has been mixed.

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“I must say, I think something like this will be good and bad,” one commenter wrote. “On one hand, these kids will be in a comfortable environment and can learn with less fear; on the other hand, I feel it will promote more discrimination.”

“A school for gay kindergartners?” another asked. “That’s all kids need. ‘Little Timmy, you’re going to this school because that one time we saw you playing with your sister’s Barbie. It’s ok to be yourself, little Timmy.’ What … would a kindergartner know about his or her sexuality? They shouldn’t even know what that means.”

“Attending a school like this will keep them from getting pregnant when they really don’t want to get pregnant? What on earth would the answer to that one be?” a third stated. “I simply cannot imagine…”


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  • afchief

    Homosexuals hate themselves. It is so sad. They wish they weren’t trapped in that sin, but validating the behavior simply will not dignify it. I hate what homosexuality does to the soul of a man. I absolutely hate it. There is no way to dignify it. Only Jesus can help. He will give you your dignity back.

    • Valri

      Homosexuals don’t hate themselves, except when they have been shamed by religious people into hating who they are. And this is the reason the suicide level is so high for homosexuals too.

      What I hate is when people try to tell other people who they are and are not allowed to fall in love with.

      • afchief

        There sure do hate themselves. Why would someone want to continue in a lifestyle where you lifespan is cut short because of the disease it causes. I can cite numerous places that show how dangerous this lifestyle is. The dirty truth of the matter is homosexuality is not about ‘love’, it is about sex. You can love someone without fulfilling a hedonistic lustful desire. Nothing about the homosexual ‘movement’ is honest. No one will ever convince true Christians and clear thinking people of our country that there is anything normal about homosexuality. It is a deviant, perversion and sin. To continue in this sin of homosexuality, is to hate oneself.

        But there is freedom in Jesus Christ.

        • Valri

          It doesn’t cause disease. Two monogamous and disease-free people, regardless of their sexuality, are not going to suddenly develop HIV. It doesn’t work that way. HIV is contracted from unprotected sex, shared needles and to a certain extent promiscuity.

          If it’s not about love, why are so many gay people clamoring to get married? Generally that’s what you do when you’re in love. There is nothing deviant about it. The poles are simply reversed. That’s all. And people like you are making disgusting, vile and hateful comments about what you do not understand.

          • afchief

            What? The CDC says homosexual men are 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer over heterosexual men. It is the cover ups that are the proof of how dangerous and the evil of homosexuality. HIV is caused by homosexual behavior. Like most diseases it can be spread to innocent victims and it has and that is lied about. It is constantly mutating against the medical serums that attempt to control it and that creates related drug resistant viruses that can be blamed on something other than HIV. The corruption of the industry created by this creates a voter base to keep it going, not cure it. This is lied about. The annual HIV death rate averages 15000 in this country and 1.7 million around the world.

            75% increase in rectal cancers in the gay male community

            30% increase in HIV in the last 5yrs…. (50% in San Fransisco alone)

            60% increase in domestic violence among same sex couples

            35% increase in single parents…do to the divorce rate among gay cpls.. (in states that decide it would be a good social experiment, and good for taxes)

            50% ADD (peoples choice for disorders) Diagnosed at a high rate in children with Same sex parents.

            100% uncontrolled hatred for people that speak out against the Militant Gay Agenda

            YES IT DOES CAUSE DISEASE!!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Visiting biased sites again?

          • afchief

            Go to the CDC (a government site) and read all about it.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Well the first part in your previous comment, makes it very reliable, not. (It is your word, what I don’t trust).

          • afchief

            Sorry, but God’s Holy Spirit leads and guides me into all truth!!!!

            John 16:13 (NASB) But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;

          • John N

            So did he come? Must have missed it.

            No, didn’t think so. You are still lost in delusions and religious hate websites.

          • Azsteve53

            Jesus set the date for his return, and no man knows it but him. perhaps you should consider the disposition of your eternal soul, it belongs to him, perhaps you should have chosen a much wiser path, homosexual.

          • John N

            Jesus set the date of his return ‘within this generation’. Maybe he forgot to set his alarm.

            Threatening me with your non-existent big brother is making you look like a fool. Perhaps you should have chosen a much more reliable deity.

          • Azsteve53

            Total ignorance and lies on your part. The bible is clear, no one knows the date of his return, perhaps in your homosexual atheist talking points you skipped over that part.

            It is hilarious with you homosexual militant atheists, you believe nothing created something for no reason and without data, guidance or information, you call that science, deny you have an eternal life and are dismissive of God;s word.

            I realize that there is a certain irony here, see you believe in nothing, refuse to acknowledge God’s word and the rest of us do. We chose to believe, science over atheist gibberish, we cherish our eternal lives and trust in the father that we will receive it as promised to us by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.

            I never threaten any atheist militant homosexuals with the wrath of God, you already earned it by your total disobedience of his word, and there is nothing anyone can do about it, it is what you want, enjoy it and the consequences.

            People who do not believe in God and who comment on God articles have serious mental issues, worrying about what you do not believe in speaks volumes,

          • John N

            Total ignorance? So you deny your bible saying Jesus would return within the generation of his followers?

            You don’t want me, an unbeliever, to teach you from your own holy book, do you? Spare yourself the humiliation.

            And homosexual militant atheists (which I am not) do not believe that nothing created something. That should be creationists.

            Actualy scientists accept the fact that the universe as we know it originated at the Big Bang from a singularity, an state of extremely high density and temperature.

            Hiding behind your bible while already enjoying the foreview of us heathens being punished forever by your big brother god tells everbody what kind of nasty person you really are. I guess you loved dissecting live insects when you were young. Luckily for me and you, no such thing will happen. Why? See above.

            By the way, I was commenting on an article regarding homosexuality and human rights. Somehow Christians always find a way to discriminate people by invoking their god. It seems they do not have any ideas and arguments of themselves.

          • D.M.S.

            Where does it state in scripture, after His followers? This generation shall not pass until His return. What is that statement pertaining too?

          • Elie Challita

            It’s not what we don’t believe in that worries us: We’re worried about what the people who do believe this tripe will do, because as far as we’re concerned they’ve willingly abandoned logical reasoning.

          • D.M.S.

            How long does a generation live. 80? 90? 100+years?

          • Elie Challita

            And once the Spirit of Truth has come, who sleeps in the wet spot?

          • singlemom_4

            Well reading is fundamental, so I suggest you head over to the CDC site and have a lovely time educating yourself and pass the word onto those in your fellow gay community.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            You know that the cdc even states that anal sex is very common by heteroes too these days. And HIV hasn’t and never will be only a homosexual disease. Why don’t you “educate” yourself and find out how HIV get spreaded.

          • Azsteve53

            No the CDC states HIV and AIDS are an affliction of the male homosexual community about 80% that transmits AIDS. The use of the anus by heterosexuals is negligible in the transmission of AIDS.

            Game, set, match,.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            It’s on there site. But I guess the things you people post, is the only truth.

          • Elie Challita

            You do realize that the majority of AIDS victims worldwide are heterosexuals in developing countries, right?

          • D.M.S.

            Never? After our Lord Jesus Christ return, there will not be one lgbtpetc on the entire planet.

          • Azsteve53

            No, the poster is just relating the facts and you are pretending ignorance,

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            His fact? roflmao! Riiiiight!

          • Azsteve53

            Laugh all you want, that seems to be the sum total of your posts, sort of like a hyena who can post, no care about facts or history but braying about it seems to make you feel better about yourself

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Actually history and art history where my favorite subjects in high school. Since I was 6 years old my parents took me to museums. So I know a lot about history. My favorite is Egypt and Native Americans.

          • Valri

            “The CDC says homosexual men are 17 times more likely to develop anal cancer over heterosexual men.”

            Yes, and? If heterosexual men are not experiencing anal sex (at least not on the receiving end) then this isn’t a surprise, but what point are you making? People, straight or homosexual, taking part in anal sex, especially unprotected, are going to be at higher risk. It’s got nothing to do with a person’s sexuality, but their activity.

            “HIV is caused by homosexual behavior”

            No it isn’t. Here, educate yourself (remove the spaces):
            http://sfaf. org/hiv-info/basics/how-is-hiv-transmitted. html

            “Like most diseases it can be spread to innocent victims”

            Only if those “innocent victims” are engaging in dirty needles or unprotected sex. That’s how you get HIV. It’s spread by bodily fluids. That’s all. You’re not going to get HIV by hugging a homosexual or using their toilet.

            “The annual HIV death rate averages 15000 in this country and 1.7 million around the world.”

            Which has NOTHING to do with a person’s sexuality. NOTHING. If you are a gay couple in a monogamous relationship, you CANNOT CONTRACT HIV. It’s impossible. Where would it come from? The air?

            Your stats may be true in places, but you’re lying about the cause of it, hiding behind your hateful religion.

          • afchief

            Oh my gosh!!! The Word of God is soooooooooooo true!!! When you are dealing with a reprobate mind, ONLY God can break this blindness and bondage!!!!!!!!! Only God!!!! It is quite obvious you mind has been given over “to do those things which are not proper”. Sad! You need Jesus!

            Romans 1:28 (NASB) And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved (reprobate) mind, to do those things which are not proper,

          • Valri

            What the HELL are you talking about? We were discussing HIV and how it is (and is not) contracted and you start talking about Jesus?

            This has NOTHING to do with Jesus!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Get used to it.

          • Valri

            With afchief nothing can surprise me anymore.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Jesus can save homosexuals from sin and everlasting death after the physical death as long as they stop the sin.

          • Valri

            No, Jesus cannot turn a homosexual into a heterosexual. It’s impossible. And it’s not sin to fall in love.

          • Azsteve53

            Homosexuality is not innate.

            Fitness cost proves that. Example, a 1981 San Francisco study of homosexuals found that less than 20% ever had biological children, meaning that 80% of ALL homosexuals died out each generation. There is no way if homosexuality was genetic that it would survive given the Fitness Cost, simple biology.

            Game, set, match.

          • Valri

            Game, set, bigotry.
            If you’re worried about the entire human race dying out, you can forget about it because 100% of the population is not homosexual (and even if they were, you’ve never heard of artificial insemination? Really?)
            If you want less homosexuals in the world, complain to heterosexuals because they are the ones giving birth to them.

          • Azsteve53

            The vast majority of HIV is contracted through homosexual sex, no matter how you attempt to lie about it, the history speaks for itself. Your stint as a mini Baghdad Bob for the homosexual cause is a complete failure,

          • Valri

            Monogamous homosexuals will never get HIV. It is impossible. Fact. And those that use protection are also largely safe from it. You fail at basic straightforward knowledge because you are blinded by hate and fixated on sexual practices that don’t involve you.

          • Azsteve53

            Since no one has yet met a monogamous male homosexual your post fails miserably.

            Read what Dan Savage himself a homosexual says about male homosexuals and monogamy.

          • Valri

            “Since no one has yet met a monogamous male homosexual”
            Cutting you off at this bigotry and stupidity right there. Citation please, but you can’t cite proof of that because it’s total crapola. Look how many gay men are in same-sex marriages. Are you saying none of them are monogamous? The marriage was a sham and just for show?
            Where do you even LEARN this garbage? Find a new church. The one you’re in is just teaching you hate, nothing else.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Maybe you didn’t, but I’m sure many of those who support LGBT have. I did anyways. I can give you facts, cause you only work with “facts”, right. But then again you would claim that I’m a liar. You know you sound a lot like someone else on this board, afchief. He calls anyone who doesn’t agree with him a liar too. I’ll guess people like you and him have a mantra, the only truth is what I say and he rest of the population are liars. Nice way to get people to come to your God.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Anal sex is a filthy practice no matter who engages in it. Just because some heterosexual couples might engage in that abhorrent behavior…that legitimizes it? Using a place that is for the purpose of disposing of smelly, putrid bodily waste for sexual satisfaction…that is what you call love? If you love someone, you want to do everything to ensure their well being-physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. Anal sex is a selfish act. If they love each other so much, maybe it would be better to just live together and not engage in any kind of deviant sexual acts because is what anal sex is…deviant, always had been and always will be. You can’t clean it up by saying it is ‘love’. It isn’t. There is no way you can ever make anal sex anything but what it is…disgusting. There is no true union in the act. It is just one person using another in a disgusting way for their own sexual pleasure. True union can only exist between a man and a woman in the God-ordained sexual relationship in the holy state of marriage.

            Why are so many homosexuals seeking to marry if they do not love each other? It is about seeking recognition and acceptance of the gay lifestyle within our culture and society…approval of the behaviors as normal and good…even teaching them to children now. We are even being told now that it will soon be wrong to refer to people as male or female…that will be discriminatory. People can just decide (children soon) what sex they want to be regardless of what is inside their underwear. How ridiculous the world is getting. People are losing their minds in an effort to make sin good and to make good to be evil. I think once they reach their goal of legitimizing the lifestyle, you will see less gay people marrying. Marriage on the whole for everyone is on the decline due to the ‘hooking-up’ mentality that exists amongst hetero and homosexuals alike today. We have abandoned traditional morals. Marriage requires long term commitment that few are willing to make these days. Long lasting marriages are harder to come by now and divorce is on the rise.

          • Valri

            Using your same rationale, many, MANY practices done by straight couples in the bedroom are also “filthy” – in your view, the only acceptable one is the one leading to procreation. You should not be concerning yourself with the sexual practices of ANYONE. What you should be concerned with is what matters – whether the couple loves one another and cares for one another and is committed to one another. That’s all. Sexually nothing that goes on is anyone’s business.
            Why should homosexuals NOT seek recognition and acceptance of the lives the live, which after all are the only ones they CAN live? Of course they should, but that isn’t the reason for marriage. Gay people seek to be married for the exact same reason straight people do. There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. They are in love, and want to commit and pledge themselves to each other. This is so straightforward I can’t even believe it’s an issue – have you ever even SPOKEN to a gay person? To listen to you talk, you’d think there was a big worldwide conspiracy for gay people to get married just to further some ridiculous political agenda and there ISN’T ONE.
            And before you get all high and mighty about straight marriages, you might want to look at what divorce statistics are like for straight people.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            please take in in the backside and get sick and dice already .. please

          • Valri

            Like so many straight people do?
            I know you wish so badly this was a gay-only practice, but it’s not. And just how many lesbians do you think do it?

          • gizmo23

            Gay sex is bad but wishing death on someone is good ?! What a sick pervert you are

          • Korova Milk Bar

            i’m just “reinforcing” their choice to take risks when life/ death is involved. they choose death risks so i wish them a speedy one. not MY idea .. i talked against it .. but you wish to hate so picked a fight and blame ME! come on and prove me right that you attack me for THEIR choices

          • gizmo23

            I attack you for your horrible disgusting morality believes

          • Karova Milk Bar

            for 1000’s of years they exist for the moral. they are not mine

          • gizmo23

            So wishing death on people is moral and fits in with Christian teachings?

          • gizmo23

            Wishing death on people is moral? What a sick faith you have

          • Azsteve53

            And you deny you are a homosexual? Bwahahahah! You realize you are posting on the same column, right? Talk about destroying your own credibility in half a page, you realize everyone sees what a liar you are, right? And of course you don;t care, right?

          • Angel Jabbins

            “You should not be concerning yourself with the sexual
            practices of anyone.”

            When sexual practices cause disease it is a concern for society at large. Straight people casual having sex outside of marriage are causing the cases of venereal diseases to skyrocket. We should not be concerned
            about that? Anal sex causes many life threatening problems, including bowel perforation, infections, even cancer, and sometimes AIDS. We have a right to be concerned and concerned about children who will begin engaging in these practices because they are presented to them as good, healthy, normal. Plus, society cannot continue on if its primary unit and foundation, the family, is destroyed. Children are a blessing that comes out of the sexual relationship in a normal marriage. That is not something to be ashamed of….to downgrade to nothing. Without children, we go
            out of existence. Two mothers or two fathers cannot give children what both a mother and a father can give a child. Now, don’t go and tell me about all the abused children of traditional marriages. There will always be people who do bad things, but the best possible home for a child is with a mother AND a father. And it is selfish to take that away from any child. Gay marriage does that.

            There is an agenda behind the gay marriage push. That is how
            it got this far so quickly. I am sure not all gay people are consciously a part of it or even know about it. But there was a Gay Manifesto written by a strong gay marriage advocate a while back. I don’t have the link to it. But it gave strategies for getting the gay life style accepted as the norm in society and it did give a specific political agenda as to how it could be accomplished. If I find the link I will add it later.

            It is not about hating homosexuals. It is about society going down the tubes and what kind of world the next generation will be living
            in. I have two family members who are gay. I have a good relationships with both. Neither have married their partner and feel it is not right to pursue that. I love them and pray for them daily. So, yes, I do know people who are gay and I can disagree with someone’s lifestyle without hating them.

          • acontraryview

            “gay marriage should be the norm.”

            With approximately 4% of the population being gay, gay marriage will never be “the norm”.

            “that people no longer have a moral compass to live by because they have rejected the idea of God.”

            So you are saying that unless someone believes in the Christian God, they have no morals. Wow. Quite the hubris there Angel.

            “When sexual practices cause disease it is a concern for society at large.”

            Since any sexual practice has the potential to cause disease, should they all be outlawed?

            “Anal sex causes many life threatening problems, including bowel perforation, infections, even cancer, and sometimes AIDS.”

            Anal sex has the potential to cause those problems based upon how it is practiced. It does not, in and of itself, cause those problems.

            “Plus, society cannot continue on if its primary unit and foundation, the family, is destroyed.”

            How does allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage “destroy” the family unit? Will opposite gender couples no longer get married? Will they no longer have children?

            “Children are a blessing that comes out of the sexual relationship in a normal marriage.”

            Children do not come solely from those in a “normal” marriage.

            “That is not something to be ashamed of….to downgrade to nothing.”

            Agreed. How does allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage result in traditional marriage being something that shameful? How does it “downgrade” traditional marriage to “nothing”?

            “Without children, we go out of existence.”

            True. How is that related to the legality of same-gender marriage?

            “Two mothers or two fathers cannot give children what both a mother and a father can give a child.”

            There is no guarantee that children growing up in a household with both a mother and a father will get what they need. Just as there is no guarantee that children growing up with two parents of the same gender will get what they need. In both cases, we hope for the best.

            “but the best possible home for a child is with a mother AND a father.”

            There is no data which suggests that there are any measurable differences between children raised in a stable household with two loving parents of opposite gender and those raised in a stable household with two loving parents of the same gender.

            “But it gave strategies for getting the gay life style accepted as the norm in society and it did give a specific political agenda as to how it could be accomplished.”

            MLK wrote about strategies and a specific political agenda as to how equality for black people could be accomplished. Did you have a point?

            “what kind of world the next generation will be living.”

            Regarding the legality of same-gender marriage, I’ll sum it up in a nutshell for you: They will be living in a country where citizens are treated equally under the law regardless of whether they are straight or gay. What issue do you have with that?

            “Neither have married their partner and feel it is not right to pursue that.”

            Why do you feel it is not right? Why do you feel that it is reasonable to deny the protections and benefits that arise from being legally married to them? Because you don’t agree with it? Surely that can’t be reason, as that would be incredibly selfish of you.

            “I can disagree with someone’s lifestyle without hating them.”

            Agreed. However, when you support their being harmed by being excluded from protections and benefits that are available to other citizens, that does border on hate. Typically, people do not support harming those they love. You, obviously, are an exception to that.

          • Angel Jabbins

            People can have no belief in the God of the bible and still have some morals, but their morals are just based on their preferences, on the opinions of others. There are no moral absolutes for them so their morals can just change like someone putting on a new set of clothes.

            God’s law of what is right and what is wrong does not change. There is one standard and whether you believe in Him or not, He will hold you to those standards one day. We are not gods who get to make up our morals as we go along. There are absolute morals originating from and the Absolute God who does not change.

            “Since any sexual practice has the potential to cause disease, should they all be outlawed?”

            I have been married to my faithful husband over 40 years. I have never had to worry about any sexually transmitted disease. Keep sex in marriage as God designed it and, if couples stay faithful to each other, no sexually transmitted disease. But when you have people changing partners as often as every day, week, or month….hooking-up, shacking-up…what do you expect and what do studies show? Sexually transmitted disease on the rise because of promiscuous out of wedlock or cheating behaviors.

          • acontraryview

            “but their morals are just based on their preferences, on the opinions of others.”

            And that would differ from yours, how? Is it not your preference to believe in the Christian faith? The books in the Bible are the opinions of others, which you have chosen to believe. Your moral compass as just as much a preference as anyone else’s.

            “God’s law of what is right and what is wrong does not change. There is one standard and whether you believe in Him or not,”

            Then please explain to me why there are so many different sects of Christianity with varying beliefs as to what is right and what is wrong. Even those following the same book cannot come to agreement on the totality of what is right and wrong. Yet you want to impose that on the entire nation. Which version, Angel? Southern Baptist? Catholic? Presbyterian? Amish? I hope it’s not Amish….I’ve grown very fond of electricity and really don’t look good in a beard.

            “There are absolute morals originating from and the Absolute God who does not change.”

            While you are certainly entitled to believe as you wish, your choosing to believe something is true does not make it true. Every person of every faith believes that their beliefs are the one and only true one. No one knows for certain. That’s why it’s called “faith” and not “fact”.

            “I have never had to worry about any sexually transmitted disease.”

            Nor does any monogamous couple, regardless of their gender or marital status.

            “Sexually transmitted disease on the rise because of promiscuous out of wedlock or cheating behaviors.”

            Actually, it’s due to unprotected sexual relations.

          • Angel Jabbins

            The Gay Manifesto was written by Michael Swift in 1987

            When the homosexual radicals became aware that people were alarmed
            by this homosexual manifesto, they looked for something to cover their tracks. So they reverted to saying that the homosexual manifesto was merely a “satire” rather than a reality.

            Swift’s preface stated: “This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.” You decide if this is indeed satire or if this is being played out in our society today.

            “We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us.

            Women, you cry for freedom. You say you are no longer satisfied with men; they make you unhappy. We, connoisseurs of the masculine face, the masculine physique, shall take your men from you then. We will amuse them; we will instruct them; we will embrace them when they weep. Women, you say you wish to live with each other instead of with men. Then go and be with each other. We shall give your men pleasures they have never known because we are foremost men too, and only one man knows how to truly please another man; only one man can understand the depth and feeling, the mind and body of another man.

            All laws banning homosexual activity will be revoked. Instead, legislation shall be passed which engenders love between men.

            All homosexuals must stand together as brothers; we must be united artistically, philosophically, socially, politically and financially. We will triumph only when we present a common face to the vicious heterosexual enemy.

            If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies.

            We shall write poems of the love between men; we shall stage plays in which man openly caresses man; we shall make films about the love between heroic men which will replace the cheap, superficial, sentimental, insipid, juvenile, heterosexual infatuations presently dominating your cinema screens. We shall sculpt statues of beautiful young men, of bold athletes which will be placed in your parks, your squares, your plazas. The museums of the world will be filled only with paintings of graceful, naked lads.

            Our writers and artists will make love between men fashionable and de rigueur, and we will succeed because we are adept at setting styles. We will eliminate heterosexual liaisons through usage of the devices of wit and ridicule, devices which we are skilled in employing.

            We will unmask the powerful homosexuals who masquerade as heterosexuals. You will be shocked and frightened when you find that your presidents and their sons, your industrialists, your senators, your mayors, your generals, your athletes, your film stars, your television personalities, your civic leaders, your priests are not the safe, familiar, bourgeois, heterosexual figures you assumed them to be. We are everywhere; we have infiltrated your ranks. Be careful when you speak of homosexuals because we are always among you; we may be sitting across the desk from you; we may be sleeping in the same bed with you.

            There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled.

            We shall raise vast private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you. We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers.

            The family unit-spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy and violence–will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants.

            All churches who condemn us will be closed. Our only gods are handsome young men. We adhere to a cult of beauty, moral and esthetic. All that is ugly and vulgar and banal will be annihilated. Since we are alienated from middle-class heterosexual conventions, we are free to live our lives according to the dictates of the pure imagination. For us too much is not enough.

            The exquisite society to emerge will be governed by an elite comprised of gay poets. One of the major requirements for a position of power in the new society of homoeroticism will be indulgence in the Greek passion. Any man contaminated with heterosexual lust will be automatically barred from a position of influence. All males who insist on remaining stupidly heterosexual will be tried in homosexual courts of justice and will become invisible men.

            We shall rewrite history, history filled and debased with your heterosexual lies and distortions. We shall portray the homosexuality of the great leaders and thinkers who have shaped the world. We will demonstrate that homosexuality and intelligence and imagination are inextricably linked, and that homosexuality is a requirement for true nobility, true beauty in a man.

            We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution.

            Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks.”

            The gay agenda exists. It can by no means be compared with the plight of black people. Color of skin is unchangeable. To engage in sexual behaviors and to flaunt them to others…a choice.

            Copy of the written
            version at freerepublic here: http: //www. freerepublic
            .com/focus/news/3023834/posts

            The Over Hauling of Straight America
            by Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill, written 1987….steps given in detail
            here: http:
            //library. gayhomeland. org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight. htm

            1] TALK ABOUT GAYS AND GAYNESS AS LOUDLY AND AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.

            [2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.

            [3] GIVE PROTECTORS A JUST CAUSE.

            [4] MAKE GAYS LOOK GOOD.

            [5] MAKE THE VICTIMIZERS LOOK BAD.

            [6] SOLICIT FUNDS: THE BUCK STOPS HERE
            (And gays are not downtrodden people financially so they raise A LOT of money)

          • acontraryview

            “”This essay is an outré, madness, a tragic, cruel fantasy, an eruption of inner rage, on how the oppressed desperately dream of being the oppressor.””

            He pretty much makes it clear that what follows in his piece are not objectives.

            ” It can by no means be compared with the plight of black people.”

            Actually it can. The goal of the Civil Rights movement was equal treatment under the laws and protections from discrimination in public accommodation, housing, and employment. Those are the same goals as the gay rights movement.

            “Color of skin is unchangeable.”

            Neither is sexuality, Angel. Could you just change your sexuality today? Could you just simply decide to be romantically, emotionally, and sexually attracted to women?

            “To engage in sexual behaviors and to flaunt them to others…a choice.”

            Without question. Sexuality, however, is not a behavior. It is a trait.

            “1] TALK ABOUT GAYS AND GAYNESS AS LOUDLY AND AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE.”

            Yes, it is important when a group is seeking equal treatment under the law, to be vocal. Do you disagree with freedom of speech?

            “[2] PORTRAY GAYS AS VICTIMS, NOT AS AGGRESSIVE CHALLENGERS.”

            When you are not treated equally under the law and are subject to discrimination, you are the victim, Angel. Are you suggesting that those who do NOT want citizens to be treated equally under the law and who WANT to be able to discriminate on the basis of sexuality, but are no longer getting their way, are the victims?

            “[3] GIVE PROTECTORS A JUST CAUSE.”

            I can’t think of a cause that is more just then citizens being treated equally under the law. Do you disagree that citizens should be treated equally under the law?

            “[4] MAKE GAYS LOOK GOOD.”

            Well, that seems pretty unnecessary. We typically look great. You know, with our fashion sense and all.

            “[5] MAKE THE VICTIMIZERS LOOK BAD.’

            Well that was easy. They are doing a great job of that all on their own. When you want to harm others just because you don’t agree with them, you make yourself look pretty bad. And when people apply their “morals” selectively regarding the law, their hypocrisy is pretty obvious. Always helpful to point it out though.

            ‘[6] SOLICIT FUNDS: THE BUCK STOPS HERE”

            Raising money is typically helpful in the achievement of goals.

          • Azsteve53

            You are so wrong it must hurt. Sexuality is changeable, there are literally tens of thousands of former homosexual and former heterosexuals, not to mention bisexuals, all you are doing is once again reciting far left homosexual political talking points without facts,

            Fitness cost is you believe in evolutionary theory completely destroys your argument. Educate yourself about it instead of trying to advance your political agenda through false claims,

          • acontraryview

            “there are literally tens of thousands of former homosexual and former heterosexuals”

            So you are saying that there are “tens of thousands” of people who were physically, romantically, and emotionally attracted exclusively to people of the same gender, but are now physically, romantically, and emotionally attracted exclusively to people of opposite gender. Further that there are people who were physically romantically, and emotionally attracted exclusively to people of the opposite gender who are now physically, romantically, and emotionally attracted exclusively to people of the same gender. Really? Where did you come up with that?

            “Fitness cost is you believe in evolutionary theory completely destroys your argument.”

            What?

            “Educate yourself about it instead of trying to advance your political agenda through false claims,”

            What false claims have I made?

          • Azsteve53

            If you doubt the numbers I posted simply google ‘Former homosexual” there are a million or so that come up on the search, if you start reading now sometime before the end of the decade you can get through every one. There are some very prominent names you would recognize

            Get started. try not to pretend of feign ignorance, try and learn,..

          • acontraryview

            If you can’t back up your claim, then you can’t. No worries.

          • Azsteve53

            Your ignorance of how to use google and the terms I used is reflective of your ignorance and refusal to accept facts, not my posts there, Baghdad Bob.

          • Valri

            “Two wrongs don’t a right make.”

            Well then Angel Jabbins, maybe you shouldn’t be focusing so much on “perverted sexual practices” and focusing more on the fact that you have two people who love each other. Sex is only a small part of the relationship people have with one another, and for some reason, you “Christians” always focus on what’s going on in the bedroom, and when you’ve got straight people doing things equally “disgusting”, maybe clean up your own house before you criticize the houses of others.

            “people no longer have a moral compass to live by because they have rejected the idea of God”

            If two people are in a loving relationship, I’m willing to bet that God didn’t even enter their minds. When you love someone, you love them. Very simple. And you’re not offending God by doing so.

            It’s very curious to me that you criticize homosexuals for their supposed sexual immorality and look to the sanctity of marriage as the ideal, and when homosexuals say they want to get married, you don’t want to allow them to!

            Why are you bringing up anal sex at all? Not all gay men do it, lesbians (who make up half the population of homosexuals) don’t do it at all, and what about all the straight people who DO do it? And once again, focusing on the sex and ignoring the loving aspect. That’s very telling.

            People in love are not sending society down the tubes. If people having unprotected sex with multiple partners are contracting HIV, that’s a shame, but you’re very wrong to blame gay people for it.

          • Azsteve53

            Take you own advice and quit focusing on hating God, posting on Christian comment sections trying to advance a far left political homosexual agenda, focus instead on the word of God and making sure you are accepted into eternal life.

          • Valri

            Please tell me where I said anything about hating God.
            There is no homosexual agenda, and you should stop making hatred of gay people part of your religious experience. Listen to what science and mental health experts say on it rather than your 2000 year old holy book. We know a lot more about human sexuality now than they did when the Bible was written.

          • Azsteve53

            There is a homosexual agenda, you can lie about it all you want but it is well known, and well published. Another book on the homosexual agenda written by two homosexuals that outline YOUR agenda is called “After The Ball” written about 1990.

            Quit lying, this Goebbels like post is anathema to intelligent reasoned people.

          • Valri

            Two politically minded and angry homosexuals do not speak on behalf of them all, that is stupid. Most of them just want to live quiet private lives without being attacked by religious freaks and bigots. The only people convinced there is an agenda are hateful idiots.

          • Azsteve53

            Those homosexuals outlined the agenda you claim does not exist, see how your lies just on this thread destroy you?

          • Valri

            No. Why don’t you explain it to me, since no homosexual I know has even heard of it?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Oh wait for it, he is going to call you a liar. You know, I think afchief and he are brothers. Cause both keep calling people liars if they don’t agree with them.

          • Azsteve53

            Anal sex is wrong no matter who does it and trying to say lots of people do it hardly legitimizes it except in the minds of those who prefer wallowing in filth.

          • Valri

            The point is singling gay men out for anal sex is ridiculous. They are two people in love, just like any other couple.

          • Azsteve53

            Gay men, male homosexuals ONLY practice sodomy that way sexually, none of them have a vagina, now do they? What do homosexual men do for their sex? Rent vaginas, is that your position here?

          • Valri

            Well you need to talk to a few homosexuals then. No surprise many of them hate anal sex, and it’s not the only kind. Fronting is common and so is oral. But again here you are focusing on a sexual practice and ignoring the loving aspect, the bigger picture. There are plenty of disgusting “straight” sexual practices but you don’t seem to be complaining about those. You are full of hate and hypocrisy.

          • Azsteve53

            No matter what you call anal sex from the front or back it is still anal sex and the anus was not designed for sex.

            Here is a biological lesson for ya, the vagina was designed for sex, nothing else, to use other orifices invites unpleasant and deadly consequences, the half million or so dead homosexuals may tend to agree in retrospect

          • Valri

            Here is a lesson for YOU. People would not engage in anal sex if it were not pleasurable. If it’s pleasurable then clearly that’s one of the purposes it was designed for. Not everything is about procreation, unless you’re a fundamentalist Christian who has been taught that sex for pleasure is sinful.
            There are no deadly consequences if people are free of disease and using the appropriate protection. And once again this has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuals, and even if it did, it is only a small part of their overall relationship.

          • gizmo23

            I’ve known many women that want and like anal sex

          • Angel Jabbins

            And that makes it right…and healthy, huh? Good reasoning. You proved what I said in a post previously on another topic….feelings rule the day now….society too, sadly.

          • gizmo23

            I am glad feeling rule the day. Much better than hateful dogma ruling the day

          • Angel Jabbins

            Feelings over reason, over truth, over logic, over morality So the old motto of the liberals has come to complete fruition….’ it if feels good, just do it’! Don’t think of the consequences coming later on, don’t worry about how it may affect others, don’t even worry about how it might affect your health and well being. We only go around once in life….what feels good to you is good and nobody has the right to question anything you want to do or feel is right for you.

            Except One: God. He has the right and He will one day hold each and every person accountable for the decision they have made. He gave you a mind to think with, to judge right and wrong, and a conscience to help you know the difference. Be careful about judging everything by your feelings… they will often lead you down a difficult road.

          • Angel Jabbins

            And BTW, I will take the loving dogma of God any day over the hedonistic, mindless, emotion driven down-into-the-gutter world we are heading into.

          • gizmo23

            Sorry I believe in hope and a brighter future, not one full of death and hate.

          • Azsteve53

            Hope and a brighter future not to mention everlasting life are the vision and promise of Jesus Christ, not homosexual militants and their politics.

          • Angel Jabbins

            And people on the Titanic were believing in a brighter
            future too. But a lot of good that did them. Better to be paying attention to
            the direction you are headed in life, to beware of the obstacles rather than being complacent, relying on feelings, mindless and asleep at the wheel…naively believing…all will be well.

          • gizmo23

            Let’s just all give up and stop trying to live better lives and helping those around us.
            Gloom and doom is disgusting Christianity

          • Angel Jabbins

            How you like to twist what I say. How it is gloom and doom
            to be ruled by reason, logic, and the law of God rather than by one’s own feelings or the feelings of another person?

            God gave us His law, the 10 commandments as a blessing to us.
            The first 4 deal with proper relationship to God and the last six ensure proper and healthy relationships with our fellow human beings. Got a problem with….don’t lie to others….don’t steal from them, don’t be greedy and covet the things of another, don’t murder anyone (take anyone’s life unlawfully), don’t commit adultery (and as Jesus said, don’t even look with lust at another person), and children
            obey and honor your parents. You think you can do better than those simple rules? Even if you don’t like the first four that deal with how we relate to God, do you really want to change or be without
            the rest of them? Aren’t most of the problems in this world caused by
            disobedience to these laws of God? If we all obeyed them, there would be no gloom and doom in this world at all.

            No, you want to allow everyone to make up their own rules…be
            guided by their feelings only….everyone just doing what they think is right in their own eyes. That is what leads to gloom and doom. Man cannot continue to
            exist on this planet without adherence to the moral code. It will lead to his destruction. Gloom and doom is a result of choices men make, rejecting God and the life he offers.

            ‘Let’s just live better lives ….helping those around us.’

            I’m all for that….but better lives cannot be lived apart
            from the law of God. And helping those around us sometimes means warning them away from dangerous, unhealthy behaviors that can damage and cause disease to their bodies and even worse, damn their souls. If I really love and care about others, I will care enough to warn them. And that is what I try to do here…on a Christian website, BTW

          • gizmo23

            Warn, chastise, ridicule, but do nothing constructive. Now I get it

          • Angel Jabbins

            How do you know what I am doing in my daily life to help others? You don’t. On here, absolutely, I will continue to warn people who embrace hedonism that a day of reckoning is coming. And I do that because I care about the destination of their immortal souls. I don’t want to see anyone die in their sins when God has provided a way of salvation. Repent or perish. You may not like that warning now, but one day you will rue the day you ignored it.
            I may use sarcasm as a way of getting people to think about the idiotic statements they make….when nothing else works. I you have taken something I said as ridicule, I do apologize because that is never my intention in these discussions to personally ridicule anyone. I have been on the receiving end many times here….name calling, toilet jokes at my expense and some really nasty comments just because I express a point of view they do not like.
            I remind you that this is a Christian website and it is a privilege for you to comment here. I just talked to a person who happened onto an atheist website, made a simple comment to express a differing opinion, and was attacked with hateful comments and booted off so quickly it made her head swim.You have a lot of leeway here to express your opinions.

          • D.M.S.

            The return of our Lord Jesus Christ is disgusting to you?

          • gizmo23

            No the hoping for death and destruction is disgusting. It seems many Christians would be happy if people go to Hades

          • D.M.S.

            No the annihilation of humanity will be done between all the nations.
            Our Lord Jesus Christ will save us humans from killing all of ourselves.

          • D.M.S.

            Not this Christian! If you come across any Christian or anyone for that matter that is happy that anyone or someone is going to Hades. More than likely they’ll be there also.

          • gizmo23

            So let’s all just give up and do nothing to improve our world. No sense in trying

          • Angel Jabbins

            Giving up on trying to improve the world? If that were true, I wouldn’t be investing my time here.

          • gizmo23

            So why do you think I am not?

          • Angel Jabbins

            I don’t think you are improving the world by encouraging people in behaviors that are clearly unhealthy, immoral, and ultimately demoralizing and dehumanizing. Saying some women actually enjoy anal sex…that helps improve our world? So, because some say they enjoy it, that means it is good for them and everyone ought to try it? You encourage people to follow their feelings rather than good common sense and the findings of medical and health science which shows many of the sexual practices of homosexuals to lead to real, even life threatening, conditions or diseases.

            I am also concerned about the sex ed programs that will now be presented to children in our schools. To be ‘fair’, they will now have to explain the sexual practices of homosexuals and present them as normal. How many young people will be led into experimentation in these practices and be led into lifestyles they might have otherwise not have chosen to engage in? You are very shortsighted and naïve if you think your encouraging people to go with their feelings is a loving, helpful thing to do. Sometimes we have to tell people the truth even when they don’t want to hear it. Tough love….ever heard of it? Improving the world sometimes means going against the flow.

          • gizmo23

            I have not promoted anything here that you say. You have a bad habit of projecting things on people you do not know. I think it’s called false witness

          • Angel Jabbins

            “I have not promoted anything here that you say” …you promoted anal sex by downplaying the seriousness of the health issues I was discussing.

            You said, ‘I’ve known many women that want and like anal sex” in response to my initial post discussing the dangers of anal sex….making light of it. Then you replied how feelings ruling what a person does is better than ‘hateful dogma’. I don’t recall I preached any ‘dogma” in that initial post. I said at one point: ‘True union can only exist between a man and a woman in the God-ordained sexual relationship in the holy state of marriage.” Guess that was a very ‘hateful’ statement for you, huh? Wow. Hateful to believe God ordained marriage between a man and a woman. Sad.

          • gizmo23

            You hate God with your name calling

          • Angel Jabbins

            And exactly what name did I call anyone here? Did I call you ‘hateful’ or refer to your beliefs as ‘hateful’? Oh…oops.. that was you describing what I believe…’hateful’. I have read back through everything I have posted to you thus far. No name calling and no false witness either.
            Maybe it is best to end this useless conversation.

          • gizmo23

            Fine with me

          • Azsteve53

            100% correct

          • Azsteve53

            Hateful dogma? Atheists and everyone non Christian are also not homosexuals, try 97% of the population. You appear to hate the word of God and thoe who have chosen to follow it.

            People who are non religious are also non homosexual, religion has nothing to do with anything homosexual, you hate God because he does not approve of your choice of sex, you were made heterosexual by default and warned against using the anus for sex, you chose not to heed the warning and now blame Christians for your choice.

            Homosexual activists tend to be Christian and God haters, you appear to be no exception

          • gizmo23

            I am not gay and you don’t know anything about me yet you wildly throw accusations out. Why are you so vicious and angry ?

          • Azsteve53

            Your not gay, yeah, right sure, anything you say, one thing for sure you definitely you are no example of any definition of a Christian. You can yourself anything you want, I call it as I see it, your posts betray you.

          • acontraryview

            “And that makes it right”

            So you would prefer that the government determine what sexual relations are “right” and what are not?

            “and healthy, huh?”

            Whether or not a sexual activity is healthy is determined not on the act itself, but on how the act is practiced.

            “society too, sadly.”

            So you don’t like our Constitutional form of governance? You would prefer that we lived in a totalitarian nation?

          • Angel Jabbins

            “…you would prefer that the government determine what sexual relations are “right” and what are not?”

            No, I would prefer God determine what is right and what is wrong in every area of life…as He has already done. The gov’t was ordained by God to maintain order, to protect and defend the poor, and to ensure life and health of families. When gov’t becomes corrupt and does not represent the people or their best interests, then it can become a tyrant. We have a gov’t that is out of control today. The gov’t can do what it wants. You can do as you please with whomever you please. But you have no right to force an agenda on me….causing my children to be taught same sex practices in their classrooms…to be taught homosexual sex is good, that one’s gender doesn’t matter any more, that we must all be gender neutral now or we are bigots committing the terrible crime of discrimination. Bathrooms must be open to anyone, regardless of one’s anatomical reality…men showering with women and women with men. If we don’t like it, now we are bigots.

            “…you don’t like our Constitutional form of governance”‘

            I LOVE the Constitution, but it is being ripped to shreds by the Court that continues overturns the will of the majority and totally redefining sexuality, marriage, and when life begins….making the laws instead of just interpreting them. Only Congress can make and change the laws that govern our behavior as citizens…our elected representatives, not judges who were appointed. You like being ruled by the Court because that is the only way the gay agenda can get on the fast tract…as it has recently. If the Constitution were truly being followed, the will of the people would prevail and gay marriage would never have seen the light of day.

            ‘a sexual activity is healthy is determined not on the act itself, but on how the act is practiced.’

            Mind telling me how you clean up anal sex? Using the anal tract for sex is perversion of the worst kind and a mockery of God’s beautiful design of true intimacy in marriage. I feel sorry for those engaging in such behavior because, regardless of how ‘safe’ you try to make it, it is still using a filthy cesspool in an sad attempt to achieve sexual fulfillment…which cannot be had in such depravity. Very sad.

          • acontraryview

            “No, I would prefer God determine what is right and what is wrong in every area of life”

            So then you don’t, contrary to what you said, love the Constitution. You would prefer that the US was a Christian Theocracy. Not likely to happen, Angel, but you are certainly free to push for that if you like.

            “The gov’t can do what it wants. You can do as you please with whomever you please.”

            Both of those are false.

            “But you have no right to force an agenda on me”

            What “agenda” am I forcing on you, Angel?

            “causing my children to be taught same sex practices in their classrooms”

            I don’t cause your children to be taught any specific thing, Angel. Decisions on school curriculum are decided by school boards, whose members are elected by the public. You know…the will of the people…something you support so strongly.

            “that we must all be gender neutral now or we are bigots committing the terrible crime of discrimination.”

            What school is teaching that?

            “overturns the will of the majority”

            Apparently you are unfamiliar with our form of government and how judicial review of laws takes place. The US is not a pure democracy. The “will of the people” is not the final say. While the people are free to put any law they care to in place, those laws are subject to judicial review regarding their constitutionality. We are not allowed to vote away the rights of others.

            Again, if you do not like that our constitution provides for equal treatment under the law and due process, then you are certainly free to advocate that those protections be removed from the Constitution and that we institute a pure democracy form of governance where a simple majority vote is able to put any law the people care to in place, regardless of how it may impact the rights of others.

            “making the laws instead of just interpreting them. Only Congress can make and change the laws that govern our behavior as citizens…our elected representatives, not judges who were appointed.”

            Well, there’s several errors in your comment. First, the judiciary has not made any laws. Second, the making of laws is not limited to Congress. Laws can also be made at the state, county, and local level. Third, the judiciary has not changed any laws.

            “If the Constitution were truly being followed, the will of the people would prevail and gay marriage would never have seen the light of day.”

            The Constitution provides for equal treatment under the law. in the case of same-gender marriage, the state was unable to provide rational, compelling, and legally valid reasons why two citizens who desired to enter into civil marriage should be denied based upon nothing more than their gender.

            Again, Angel, the “will of the people” is not the final say. If the judiciary were not allowed to rule on the constitutionality of laws, how would the protections provided by the 14th Amendment be secured?

            if, for example, the citizens of Utah voted to allow only Mormons to enter into marriage and only recognize Mormons as being legally married, you seem to be suggesting that all the non-Mormons in Utah should deal with that and should not seek have the law overturned on the basis that it is infringement on their right of equal treatment under the law. Do you think that’s what non-Mormons should do in that case? Just deal with it?

            “Mind telling me how you clean up anal sex?”

            Not at all. Douche.

            “Using the anal tract for sex is perversion of the worst kind and a mockery of God’s beautiful design of true intimacy in marriage.”

            You are certainly entitled to your opinion.

          • Azsteve53

            No one ever forces a belief agenda on anyone, that is pure political theater and just another emotional talking point developed by homosexual militants.

            No one can ever force someone to believe in anything.

            You killed your own credibility with this post

          • acontraryview

            “You killed your own credibility with this post”

            How so?

          • Azsteve53

            Read it homosexual, all it is good for is a Baghdad Bob class,. total fail in facts, history, logic, and common sense, it really is humorous in its spin attempt, it shows a clear factual and intellectual deficiency

          • acontraryview

            If you can’t back up your claim, then you can’t. No worries.

          • Azsteve53

            My claims are backed up I have no problem with anything posted, it is all the 100% truth unlike your homosexual militant spin jobs. I also know what the word of God is concerning homosexuality, you on the other hand think Baghdad Bob spin substitutes for scripture.

            You lost the argument long ago homosexual, no one is buying what you are selling, but you are a good illustration of how homosexual propagandists work.

            Do yourself a favor, quit posting, it is getting quite embarrassing for you

          • acontraryview

            “My claims are backed up I have no problem with anything posted, it is all the 100% truth”

            Prove it.

          • Azsteve53

            I did,and have, your ignorance, dismissal, lack of reading comprehension of what I posted and your refusal to accept facts only demonstrates how completely political your posts are and nonsensical

            If your post was anymore pitiful, words would fail in its description of your ignorance,

          • acontraryview

            I have seen nothing in your posts to back up your claims. Perhaps I missed it. If so, it should be quite simple for you to cut and paste it.

            I look forward to it.

          • Azsteve53

            Your ignorance and dismissal of the dissection of your lies with posted facts by myself and others once again illustrates you are not interested in facts, just homosexual atheist militant talking points. You failed completely, get it through your head.

          • acontraryview

            Again, please cite specifically what I have said that is a lie and provide your proof for why it is a lie. If you fail to do that, then you are simply bearing false witness, something which you will have to explain to God at some point, according to your faith. That should make for an interesting conversation.

          • Azsteve53

            I did back up my claims, I pointed out in several places how and why you destroyed your own credibility, yet you keep on trying to find news lows to sink to

          • acontraryview

            No, you haven’t. If you believe otherwise, then simply cut and paste the support for your claims. It’s really easy. Do you know how? If not, I’d be happy to provide you with the instructions.

          • Azsteve53

            You outright lied, No one can force anyone to believe something they do not want to, everyone with intelligence understands that, once again you try and substitute atheist homosexual militant talking points for facts and it completely fails,

          • acontraryview

            “No one can force anyone to believe something they do not want to”

            I agree. When did I suggest otherwise?

          • Azsteve53

            Well said and of course 100% correct

          • Azsteve53

            What a word salad if nothing but politics. We live in a society where you can choose your sexual partner and always have. The problem with homosexuality is that is has always been a practice where the adherents experience mental health issues, excessive criminality, the top 6 serial killers in the world are homosexuals, not to mention far more STDs, and now we have the politics of the bitter hateful homosexual militant who hates God and Christians because we try and live by the word of God, you chose not to, quit blaming others especially Christians to advance your political cause

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Oh wait let me guess, found the list with those “homosexual” serial killers on a biased site? Cause I did, several.

          • Azsteve53

            Sure it is biased, it comes from the Feds, but let me guess, any information contrary to the far left homosexual cause is biased, right?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So you found that list on a FBI site. Riiiiiiiight!

          • Azsteve53

            Go educate yourself, those that have transmitted it will happily refer you back to the list, and the list if very will known, Dahmer, Gacy, Corona, not to mention the percentage of homosexual killers on death row, their numbers are all out of proportion to the population, but of course in your political mind, that all has to be made up and biased, right?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So if you google it you find the right sites? When I google the same thing I only find biased sites, mostly christian sites. Oh my google is biased too.

          • Azsteve53

            Given the hyena quality of your posts it would not surprise me you can’t find anything on google, perhaps if you ask your mom for some help she could guide you to success.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Ooohhh my boss wouldn’t be to happy if I didn’t know how to use google. Cause I have to do a lot of research for my job, among other things. My mom didn’t know how to use the computer. And I’m very successfull in my life and job, no complains. Just complaining about the aches when I wake up in the morning, but I guess that is a “fact” when you get older.

          • acontraryview

            “We live in a society where you can choose your sexual partner and always have.”

            That is false. For much of our history, it was illegal to choose a sexual partner of the same gender.

            “where the adherents experience mental health issues”

            People of all sexualities experience mental health issues.

            “excessive criminality, the top 6 serial killers in the world are homosexuals”

            I’d be fascinated to know where you came up with that.

            “quit blaming others especially Christians to advance your political cause”

            If the shoe fits……

          • Azsteve53

            You believe in propaganda and the talking points of far left homosexual militants, I deal in facts, you not so much.

            Thanks for admitting your cause is nothing but politics, this is all about using Christians as straw men for your hatred of God and his word, you are to be pitied, you have no factual leg to stand on.

          • acontraryview

            Well, let’s see, one fact you presented was wrong. So you and facts….not so much.

            What is your basis for saying that I do not deal in facts?

            “Thanks for admitting your cause is nothing but politics”

            Please cite where I admitted that.

            “this is all about using Christians as straw men”

            In what way are Christians being used as straw men?

            “your hatred of God”

            I have no hatred of God. I have a strong belief in God.

            “you have no factual leg to stand on.”

            Regarding?

          • Azsteve53

            Since you did not get it the first time, you offer nothing but political homosexual militant nonsense, your insistence on AIDS isw not a homosexual issue, despite postings by some of your former leaders that it indeed is a homosexual community problem, is a illustrative example of someone who refuses to accept facts and instead wallows in political talking points for the cause, You can’t rebut a thing posted by any believer here, all you can do is cry and offer 7th grade debate techniques commonly employed by the loser, and that you are in this argument, that is a fact.

          • Karova Milk Bar

            do you have their #’? get back to me .. will ya?

          • Angel Jabbins

            There are many people who want to do all kinds of disgusting things….so let’s celebrate those things and get everyone to do them….at the very least, let’s not allow anyone to ‘judge’ those behaviors. Hey! Anything goes! Yipee! No one can tell you what you can and cannot do. Enjoy sex with an animal? Go for it! You like it? Wonderful….good, healthy normal….stop the archaic bias against it. Sex with kids?…now wait a minute…slow down there. How can you tell someone he can’t do that if the kid is ‘consenting’? You are judging again! Stop that! Multiple wives? But I LIKE it! Who are YOU to tell me I can’t do whatever I choose. Don’t try to force YOUR morality on me….you BIGOT!!!

          • gizmo23

            You sure project a lot on people

          • Azsteve53

            What is the truth here is that the projection is coming from your side, making allegations and accusations all in support of a political agenda, not theology or the real world

          • gizmo23

            What is my side?

          • Azsteve53

            Easy answer, homosexual militant activist Read what you post and then try and tell me different

          • gizmo23

            Because I believe in equal rights I’m a militant?

          • Azsteve53

            Every citizen of the USA has the exact same rights, homosexual included. What you posted is pure homosexual militant propaganda, Major fail

          • Azsteve53

            Anal sex is flat wrong by anyone who does it, male or female, trying to say you know women who enjoy it hardly changes the fact it is a disgusting disease ridden behavior. Perhaps instead of encouraging women to engage in sick perverted sex, you should have made attempts to offer them healthy sex, using the orifices that were designed for it,

          • gizmo23

            There is something very wrong with you. Where does all this anger come from?

          • Azsteve53

            No response to my post of substance dealing with your posts just your pretend offense to my response and it is a typical tactic of the homosexual militant activist, I am not surprised given your status as one, I have no problem whatseover with you being offended by the truth

          • gizmo23

            Yoh are way off base and appear to be a very violent and angry person

          • Azsteve53

            You don’t know me, homosexual, violence is a tool of the homosexual militant left along with intimidation and propaganda, that is well established. Also God hating is another attribute of the homosexual militant and I place you in that category as well

          • acontraryview

            “Anal sex is a filthy practice no matter who engages in it. ”

            In what way is it “filthy”?

            “that legitimizes it?”

            Legitimizes is a legal term. The fact that heterosexual couples also engage in anal sex does not legitimize it. Our right to freedom of consensual relations legitimizes it. Or would you prefer that the government determined what two consenting adults can do in the privacy of their own home?

            “that is what you call love?”

            No, that is what some people call having sex.

            “Anal sex is a selfish act.”

            How so?

            “deviant, always had been and always will be.”

            You are certainly entitled to your opinion that anal sex is deviant, but your view does serve as a basis for our laws.

            “True union can only exist between a man and a woman in the God-ordained sexual relationship in the holy state of marriage.”

            So then all married people who are not Christian or did not take their vows in a church, are not in a “true union”?

            “It is about seeking recognition and acceptance of the gay lifestyle within our culture and society”

            It is most certainly about legal recognition. As far as acceptance goes, the ability to enter into civil marriage does not result in any person changing their views on accepting or not accepting same-gender marriage, as is clear by your comments. Interracial marriage has been legal in the US for over 40 years. Yet there are still people who do not accept it as being right.

            “We are even being told now that it will soon be wrong to refer to people as male or female…that will be discriminatory.”

            Who told you that?

            “I think once they reach their goal of legitimizing the lifestyle, you will see less gay people marrying.”

            Why? Same-gender relationships are already legal and have been for years. What “lifestyle” are you referring to? Do you think the all gay people have some common “lifestyle”? Being sexually, romantically, and emotionally attracted to someone of the same gender is no more a lifestyle than being sexually, romantically, and emotionally attracted to someone of the opposite gender is a lifestyle.

            “Marriage requires long term commitment that few are willing to make these days.”

            No. Civil marriage requires two consenting adults. it does not require a long-term commitment. While you may view a long-term commitment as an essential part marriage, it is not a “requirement”.

            “divorce is on the rise.”

            Actually, the rate of divorce has fallen steadily since 1990. The state with the lowest rate of divorce is also the state that first legalized same-gender marriage – Massachusetts.

            I find the argument that allowing same-gender marriage will do significant damage to “traditional” marriage and children and thus should not be legal, when the reality is that divorce and out-of-wedlock child birth are the greatest threats to “traditional” marriage and children, to be disingenuous. Why aren’t these same folks crying out to make divorce and child birth by unwed women illegal? That would certainly have a significantly greater impact on “traditional” marriage and children than allowing less than 4% of the population to enter into civil marriage could ever have.

          • afchief

            In what way is it filthy?!?!?!?!?!??!

            Yes, you are a LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • acontraryview

            That was a question. A question cannot be a truth or a lie. Only statements can be lie. Is English not your first language?

            Please cite one lie I have told.

          • afchief

            Only and I repeat ONLY a lying reprobate mind can ask the question “In what way is anal sex filthy”!!!!

            Yes, you are a LIAR!!!!

          • acontraryview

            Again, please cite one lie I have told.

          • Azsteve53

            Now I can safely say EVERY post of yours is pure politics and outright lies, no facts, just homosexual atheist talking points, you make up your own facts as you go, real facts do not interest you since they do not cooperate with your agenda,

          • acontraryview

            Again with the unsubstantiated claims. You really need to consider the wisdom of continuing to bear false witness against me.

          • Angel Jabbins

            What people do in the privacy of their own homes is not the issue here. The issue is what the gay agenda is foisting on the rest of society to be good, healthy, normal behaviors…things that others should be engaging in. So straight people are doing it too…so where did they get the idea? Who is promoting it? Our liberal ‘anything-goes society’…because we can’t judge ANYTHING anymore to be wrong as far as sex goes. If you do those things in private, it hurts only you and your partner. But is has gone way beyond that now and is being foisted upon society and even getting into our schools. It is an agenda, yet you don’t care about that or how it will affect people who hold to moral absolutes in these matters (marginalized as haters, bigots). But gays and society WILL pay a price one day down the road. Time will prove me right as health costs skyrocket and people engaging in these activities begin to age….the fruit of it all will come back to bite them.
            You are entitled to do whatever disgusting thing you want to do in private. But you have no right to bring it into the public square through the propaganda…accusations of people discriminating against others just because they don’t go along with it…forcing everyone in society to approve of it, celebrate it, and to indoctrinate the next generation to participate in it.

          • acontraryview

            “The issue is what the gay agenda is foisting on the rest of society to be good, healthy, normal behaviors…things that others should be engaging in. ”

            Please tell me what part of the gay agenda suggests what type of sexual activity people should be engaging in?

            “You are entitled to do whatever disgusting thing you want to do in private.”

            Thanks. You too.

            “But you have no right to bring it into the public square through the propaganda…accusations of people discriminating against others just because they don’t go along with it”

            Sure I do. It’s call freedom of speech. Are you against freedom of speech?

            “forcing everyone in society to approve of it, celebrate it”

            If it were true that everyone in society was forced “to approve of it, celebrate it”, then you would approve of it and celebrate it. Clearly you do not, therefore your statement is false.

            “to indoctrinate the next generation to participate in it.”

            Sexuality is not indoctrinated, Angel.

            Now, back to my questions:

            How is anal sex (which, by the way, over half of homosexuals do NOT engage in) selfish?

            So then all married people who are not Christian or did not take their vows in a church, are not in a “true union”?

            Why would fewer gay people get married? Same-gender relationships are already legal and have been for years. What “lifestyle” are you referring to? Do you think the all gay people have some common “lifestyle”?

            Why aren’t these same folks crying out to make divorce and child birth by unwed women illegal?

          • Azsteve53

            Matt Foreman former head of GLAAD says AIDS is an issue of the male homosexual. And yes anal sex is just filthy, wallowing in someones fecal matter tube that was not designed for sex is biologically, intellectually and morally wrong.

          • acontraryview

            AIDS is an issue of the male homosexual. It is more largely an issue with male and female heterosexuals, as over 90% world-wide are found in male and female heterosexuals.

            “that was not designed for sex is biologically, intellectually and morally wrong.”

            You are certainly entitled to your opinion. Based upon your criteria, you feel the same way about oral sex, yes?

          • Azsteve53

            Outright lie, clear statistics and history of the disease say the diametric opposite, what you are trying to do here is tell the Big Lie, a Goebbels tool if you lie over and over again no matter how outrageous it is like you are trying to do some sheeple will come to believe it.

            Major fail on your part

          • acontraryview

            Please cite what I said that you believe to be a lie and the facts to back up your assertion.

            I’ll ask again: Based upon your criteria, you feel the same way about oral sex, yes?

          • Azsteve53

            I think Matt Foreman ofGLAAD said it best when he called AIDS a disease of the homosexual community, you can’t deny it or rebut it, Foreman spoke the truth, maybe only once but that one is the truth, it is a simple recognition of the history of the homosexual community,

          • singlemom_4

            Everyone knows gay men are not, I repeat, are not monogamous! And because of that one fact, most gay men are infact, HIV positive. Why? Because gay men cannot control their own perverted lust. To be gay is to be immoral period!

          • Valri

            Oh, “everyone” knows this? No, I would say you are lying. If they were not monogamous, they would not be wanting to get married. Most men are NOT HIV positive either. Provide your statistics please.
            And why is it “perverted lust” when two men do it, but just find when straight people do it? Are you saying gay men cannot feel love towards one another? Isn’t that the very thing that makes them gay?

          • Korova Milk Bar

            ask Freddie Mercury

          • Valri

            Freddie Mercury was incapable of feeling love?

          • Azsteve53

            Freddy Mercury felt the homosexual love behind him many times, and it is responsible for his death along with a half million other homosexuals, remember that AIDS quilt? Of course not, when it comes to facts you don;t remember any.

          • Valri

            Freddie Mercury died 25 years ago when AIDS was new and no one knew much about it.

          • Azsteve53

            Another outright lie. AIDS has been around since 1980 at least, Freddy died 15 years after the disease was diagnosed as one of the homosexual community at large and the understanding of how the disease works was fully complete. Freddy knew about AIDS and how to get it and rolled the dice and lost.

          • Valri

            AIDS awareness was slow to catch on after the disease was wiping people out. I’m not going to comment on Freddie Mercury’s sexual goings on because they aren’t relevant. Freddie Mercury was a homosexual and there was no way for him NOT to be one, he had two choices – forming gay relationships or living a celibate life. Not too many people would choose the latter.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            1. It’s Freddie. FreddIE, not FreddY.

            2. He probably got it some time around 1987 or so. Despite what you say, NOT that much was really publicly known about AIDS at that time. HIV wasn’t even called HIV until 1986.

            3. He was a songwriting genius and one of the best singers of all time. Not really sure if that has anything to do with this discussion, but I just gotta say that. (My nickname is taken from a song he wrote, after all)

          • Seabeacon

            Who says that, Preacher Buford?

          • gizmo23

            You seem to be obessed with anal sex. Is your relationships only about sex?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            She is single, who knows.

          • Azsteve53

            More admissions from the loser of the debate.

          • afchief

            What she says is true. I can cite several sources.

          • gizmo23

            I don’t care what “proof ” you have

          • Azsteve53

            Of course you don’t care, facts are irrelevant t you, if you need any stinkin facts you make them up as you go, we know that.

          • Karova Milk Bar

            yes, we are but so are you .. happy troll?

          • Angel Jabbins

            Nope. She is just telling it like it really. And it ain’t pretty.

          • Azsteve53

            She just owned you, is this all you have? Cheap nonsensical reponses

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So you know what is going on in the bedrooms of gay people? Ooooohhhh naughty girl.

          • Azsteve53

            More Baghdad Bob propaganda, this is not a site dedicated to intellectual sheeple who do not think like the Godless sites are dedicated to. Here your lies and attempts at spin are simply laughed at and used as teaching examples of how NOT to be.

            Thank you for the example.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Good thing we have freedom of speech, so smart people like you and afchief can tell what is truth. Good thing we are smart enough to dismiss it as being the truth. Homosexuals can get married now, in some nations for some years now, get used to it.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Annal and oral sex is bad for heterosexuals too. Many Doctors have stated that to me – there is a variety of health risk involved. Only abnormal people touch, eat feces.

          • Valri

            You simply don’t know what goes on in people’s bedrooms, gay or straight. It isn’t your place to judge. Sex is only part of a relationship anyway.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            And still some think they do.

          • Azsteve53

            Homosexuals have told everyone what goes on in their bedrooms and made it so people have to hear it and applaud it and for male homosexuals it is anal sex.

            Go to Zombietime and check out the Folsom Street fair, homosexuals by the thousand having their sex in public and in front of children no less.

          • Valri

            You keep trying to stereotype homosexuals as all being the same. That is as stupid as doing the same thing to all heterosexuals. And still fixated on gay sex. Wow. Not even gay men are obsessed with it like you are.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Well I don’t know what is going on in their bedrooms. I guess I’m the only one who wasn’t told then,and I have homosexual friends. Damn they could have told me.

          • Azsteve53

            No intelligent person buys a single thing you just posted.

            Major, major,intellectual fail on your part.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I”ll guess you don”t do sarcasm then. No worries doesn’t make you less smart.

          • Azsteve53

            Yes AIDS is a homosexual disease, even a former president of GLAAD said so, Matt Foreman, why not educate yourself in facts instead of political statements about your cause,

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            He stated that in 2008. And picking again what suits you? And posting, he said that doesn’t make the whole article I found on different sites. Why not educate yourself in facts instead picking those things that suits you in your cause.

          • Azsteve53

            How does that date, 2008 change anything? AIDS was discovered in 1980 era, and it was started and transmitted by male homosexuals, the person identified as ground zero in the transmission of the disease was a homosexual who slept with hundreds of other men. You are making yourself look silly twisting yourself into contortions of denial and delusion about historical facts

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Actually the source was a African hetero man. Educate yourself, you can find it on the internet.

          • Azsteve53

            Another lie again, patient zero for AIDS is well documented and was not a monogamous homosexual, your lies do not change the facts on the ground, keep lying maybe someone will buy it,

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Oh I get it, it was like puff and he had aids. Riiiight!!!!

          • Azsteve53

            As Matt Foreman says, and educate yourself here, as he is the former head of GLAAD, not to mention the hundreds of health professionals who say AIDS is due to anal sex specifically among homosexual men followed by IV drug use.

            Your argument says that the 80% who cause the disease and its transmission are to be ignored and instead concentrate on the 5-15 percent who may have gotten the disease from one of the 80% who cause it.

            Logic like that can only come from a progressive who hates God, logic, common sense and is engaged in a political argument for the cause

          • Valri

            Biggest load of hate and Christian supremacist crap I have ever read.

            HIV is caused by the exchange of bodily fluids or dirty needles. Unprotected sex is the main cause of it. This is common knowledge and easily verified. There was a time when gay men primarily were susceptible to the disease but it was not because they were homosexual, it was because they were not using protection and were less inclined to monogamous relationships.

            You are focusing entirely on sexual practice and ignoring the far more important aspects of love, dedication and commitment. Frankly your faith has caused you to hate, and my recommendation is you ditch it and find one that is more compassionate and loving and accepting. You know, like Jesus taught.

          • acontraryview

            “It is the cover ups that are the proof of how dangerous and the evil of homosexuality.”

            If it’s “covered up” how is it that you are aware of it? As you stated, information is available on the CDC website. Hardly a “cover up”.

            “HIV is caused by homosexual behavior.”

            If that were true then no heterosexuals would be infected with HIV. Since over 90% of the HIV infections in the world are found in heterosexuals, your statement is patently false.

          • afchief

            You are a LIAR and serve the father of lies………..satan!!!!

            I will not converse with you!!!!

          • acontraryview

            Again with the bearing of false witness. Why do you continue to do that?

          • Azsteve53

            Actually the one bearing false witness here is you, that seems to be repeated by you over and over again. In case you did not know what you are doing is projecting.

          • acontraryview

            Please site where I have borne false witness.

          • Azsteve53

            Engaging in cover up is employing useful idiots like yourself and ideological militants, again look in the mirror, to engage in willful deception, intimidation, obfuscation, slander and the use of the MSM populated by homosexuals as a propaganda tool against the believer,

            It is amazing to watch you homosexual militants pretend and lie, and you use other homosexual militants to attack anyone who disagrees with you, and of course that is no cover up, just natural business,

            You have no credibility with facts or history bot100% in homosexual propaganda

          • acontraryview

            “to engage in willful deception, intimidation, obfuscation, slander”

            Please cite where I have engaged in “willful deception, intimidation, obfuscation, slander”. That’s quite the accusation. I would have that you would be able to provide proof of such a serious accusation, and that you are not simply bearing false witness.

            “the MSM populated by homosexuals as a propaganda tool against the believer,”

            What percentage of the MSM is homosexual and what is your basis for that percentage?

            “It is amazing to watch you homosexual militants pretend and lie”

            Please cite what I am pretending about and what lies I have told.

            “attack anyone who disagrees with you”

            Please cite where I have “attacked” anyone.

            “You have no credibility with facts or history bot100% in homosexual propaganda”

            What facts and history have I misstated?

          • Azsteve53

            Please cite? Nearly every post you starting with your false claims about AIDS that are so false they must have hurt you to keep repeating them.

            You have been compltely owned, blown out of the water and discredited, do yourself a favor and quit trying to plumb new lows you can sink to in credibility if that is possible.

            One thing is for sure homosexual militants like you need to keep posting your lies and nonsense, good people that have fallen for your propaganda are now waking up to your nonsense and lies, and I have to thank you and the rest of you political atheistic God hating homosexual militants for overplaying your hand and exposing what your cause really is.

          • acontraryview

            So you can’t cite where I have engaged in “willful deception. intimidation, obfuscation, or slander”. Got it. Thanks

            So you can’t cite any numbers to support your claims about homosexuals in the MSM. Got it. Thanks

            So you can’t cite anything I am pretending about nor any lies I have told. Got it. Thanks

            So you can’t cite where I have attacked anyone. Got it. Thanks

            So you can’t cite what facts and history I have misstated. Got it. Thanks

            Enjoy the rest of your day.

          • Azsteve53

            You just love making your own world of non facts as you go. Like Matt Foreman former head of the homosexual organization GLAAD said one of your own , HIV/AIDS is a disease of the homosexual community, that sort of defines it for everyone.

            The transmission route of AIDS/ HIV is overwhelmingly anal sex, followed by IV drug use, both practiced by large numbers of the homosexual community.

            The Federal stats and the CDC, not to mention hundreds of health professionals call you an outright liar, or a political propagandist who is making it up as he goes, which is it Baghdad Bob?

            And of course to top it off Matt Foreman must never have said what he said or lied about it, right Baghdad?

          • acontraryview

            “The transmission route of AIDS/ HIV is overwhelmingly anal sex”

            That is factually incorrect. If you like at HIV infections rates world-wide you will see that the vast majority occur as a result of sexual relations between males and females, as well as children born with the infection.

            “The Federal stats and the CDC, not to mention hundreds of health professionals call you an outright liar”

            The CDC has no commented on what I said so they have not called me an outright liar. The CDC statistics are accurate for the US. But, in case you weren’t aware, people all across the globe are infected with HIV.

            “And of course to top it off Matt Foreman must never have said what he said or lied about it, right Baghdad?”

            No, he said it and HIV/AIDS is a disease of the homosexual community. It is also a disease of the heterosexual community. What he did NOT say was that HIV/AIDS is exclusively a disease of the homosexual community.

          • Azsteve53

            One other post on this the CDC stats and history show what a liar you are about AIDS transmissions, the correct stats have already been posted your dismissal of them is foolish and once again shows you have no credibility, just politics

          • acontraryview

            The CDC stats only apply to the US, not the rest of the world. Your statements regarding HIV transmission overall are factually inaccurate.

          • D.M.S.

            Where do the bi-sexuals fit into this scenario? or do they even exist? What about adultery, it’s rampant in this country and the world.

          • acontraryview

            I’m not really sure what you are asking. Would you clarify, please?

          • Chip01

            Copy / paste.

          • Azsteve53

            Again you are the one here using a logic fail, the direct transmission route of AIDS is in fact through male homosexual intercourse, sorry you hate facts, but there it is

          • Chip01

            Your comment is more dangerous in its ignorance… than it is sadly laughable Straight people don’t contract HIV from other straight people?

            But regardless – contracting HIV doesn’t declair a negative/positive statement on any one segment of society. Trying to do so is an old parlor trick, getting older by the hour. And that large group of people running from the pews you see weekly, is the results of these types of parlor – toxic comments

          • Azsteve53

            The main transmission route of AIDS is overwhelmingly anal sex in the homosexual community after that IV drug use, heterosexual transmissions usually come from one of those and are so rare as to be negligible.

            The way to combat AIDS is not to have anal sex or use dirty needles. Despite your outright lies, homosexuals are still the ones infected the most and continue infecting others,

            Pre 1990 homosexuals infected heterosexuals through the blood supply, no one suspected what was happening, and it killed many innocent heterosexuals

          • Chip01

            again. Dangerous lies. You kil people when you dispense reckless /bias information

          • Azsteve53

            Your post is 100% accurate, well written and to the point. It is contrary to the homosexual activist talking points that are well rehearsed but fall short in the fact department.

            Well done, my compliments

          • afchief

            Thanks! I know what I/we are dealing with here (Eph 6:12) and I know exactly where it’s coming from.

          • Balerion

            Well, if we’re going to be talking about cancer (especially in that area of the body) then maybe you should also be squawking about eating bacon and other processed meats? Am I some sort of “moral pervert” for regularly eating bacon (and for that matter eating copious amounts of red meat in general) and increasing my risk of cancer? I would rather live my life and take my chances. We are all going to die eventually anyway.

            Meanwhile people like you make me want to drink myself to death.

            (No, I am not going to actually do such a thing anytime soon. Just putting this in there in case some imbecile reads this and starts thinking that I’m actually contemplating suicide.)

          • afchief

            Ahhh yes, the truth always offends!!! Does it not???

          • Balerion

            Which if anything would explain why you and the truth aren’t on anything even remotely close to speaking terms.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            succing ur own fec es off another man’s unit won’t cause diseases?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            And another myth, it gets so boring. Something new to add, maybe?

          • Valri

            Does it cause diseases when women do it to men?

          • Korova Milk Bar

            yes, if they do yes. by design it isn’t necessary
            or done by MOST well adjusted. its an exit .. NOT an entrance. our parts match with PURPOSE

          • Angel Jabbins

            No one should do it…ever. Filthy. It is just common sense…but common sense is a rare commodity today sadly.

          • Valri

            You cannot be hypocritical about this. If you are opposed to a sexual practice that can be and IS done by straight as well as gay people, you have to oppose it for both. Although most people would take the attitude that whatever people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is their own business.
            I don’t know why you fixate on SEX so much anyway. It’s only one part of a relationship.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            someone “straight” doing something wrong/ filthy/ unhealthy makes it right for someone “non-straight” to do the same??? didn’t your g a y mother teach you it didn’t work that way .. OOoopps she wasn’t g a y so you COULD be conceived UNLIKE taking it up the exit “love” .. like Sherlock Holmes said .. alimentary Watson .. alimentary

          • Valri

            Since when was having sex all about procreation only? You’re an anti-gay bigot.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            you MUST be kidding .. that’s what sex is!!!! haha WOW
            are you heterophobic? and a bigot? no, just a diff viewpoint i see.
            and some just for fun .. mimicking the procreative “act” as a normal

          • Valri

            Haha WOW.
            People have sex because it is enjoyable. Not just because they want to make babies.
            that goes for everyone.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            anus/rectum is not a sex organ. it discharges waste

          • Valri

            Yes so parts of the body have only one function. The penis, for example, is only used for peeing.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            the prostate is not a sex organ.
            there are no g spots except on Opray Channel

          • gizmo23

            The prostate is a sexual organ that creates and conteols semen

          • Korova Milk Bar

            you know you are lying. it controls fluids like a valve and that’s it. fe/ male organs ???

          • gizmo23

            The prostate is a gland that secretes fluid for the protection of and nutrition for sperm. Web MD

          • Karova Milk Bar

            what’s the female equivalent? if the two get together can they reproduce? if yes, then they are sex organs communem usum loquendi

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Never had sexual education?

          • Korova Milk Bar

            never needed it like my parents and most of the world cuz i don’t want
            perversions promoted .. just look what YOU did to our society you social justice warrior.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            My society is perfectly fine.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            yet you lament Paris .. so fine?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Who said I live in Paris?

          • Korova Milk Bar

            no, Netherlands and your daughter was very cute last June 8th.
            why do you bleach your hair and take so many selfies? awww, ur lonely?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I have a daughter I know nothing about? It’s a miracle. Nope I’m more into red. Selfies is so stupid. Lonely, me? Nope, love my single independed life.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            wrong Jolanda sorry! see ya .. snore snore ..

          • Korova Milk Bar

            Belgium actually, with a lovely windmill in ur backyard.
            aww, you like rabbits and a horse? look at those 2 cute dogs .. awww

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Which one is it? Make up your mind.

          • Valri

            (Sigh)
            Google male prostate g spot.
            You’re welcome.

          • Karova Milk Bar

            wiki, free verse authors? haha .. someone wrote it as a vernacular slang
            tho ANYTHING can be erogenous. if NEVER touched everything will be alright.
            how about asphyxiation? erogenous? wiki that, or bondage? getting off and “organs” compared?

          • Valri

            No, there are lots of sites and sources that will confirm the make g spot is located in the prostate. Which is why anal sex is enjoyable for some men.

            What I can’t figure out is why you fixate on gay sex practices and not straight ones. The issue is love anyway, not sex.

          • Karova Milk Bar

            bye

          • Karova Milk Bar

            enjoy your g spot and i will just ….

          • Azsteve53

            Sorry, the prostate was not made as a sex organ, it is a organ dedicated to something very different that concerns sex. Homosexuals talk about the prostate and the pleasure it gives them from sticking their unit in the fecal canal of other men to find it, yuuck,

          • Valri

            How about this: If you don’t want to have anal sex, don’t have it. But you are not going to stop other people from doing it and you should stop pretending that it’s got anything to do with God, but your hateful religion.

            And for the LAST time, anal sex is practiced by far more straight people than gay men, so you’re going to have to stop pretending to have the moral high ground here. You don’t.

          • gizmo23

            The prostate is a sex organ that produces and controls fluid that protects sperm. Last I checked sperm and eggs are part of sex

          • Azsteve53

            The anus was never designed for sex, that is a biological fact, then again men must have vaginas, right?

            The vagina was designed for sex, not the anus, how far did you make it in school? definitely not to basic biology.

          • Valri

            What??? If people get pleasure from anal sex, then it’s their business. It’s not your place to tell people what they should or should not do based on what they enjoy. And once again, you seem to be giving women a free pass to do this but not gay men. Why is that?

            And if it wasn’t designed for sex, why is the G spot located in the prostate for men?

          • Azsteve53

            Sex was designed for procreation, but I digress, you must know more than the designer, so go ahead, tell us all what sex really is for.

          • Valri

            In the real world as we know it, people engage in sex primarily for pleasure. If every time you had sex it was to create a human being the world would be overpopulated in an impossible to imagine way. And you know this.

          • Azsteve53

            He is right, sex was designed for procreation, sex was made pleasurable so heterosexuals, the default position of sexuality would engage in the act of procreation, did that basic biological fact somehow escape you?

          • Valri

            Awfully selfish atitude. If sex is only for procreation, does that mean the elderly should not be engaging in it? How about infertile couples? It is pleasurable because it joins two people so they will not be lonely. And you just want to stop gay people from being happy. You want them to live loveless and sexless lives.

          • Azsteve53

            What a Baghdad Bob response, a denial of simple biology followed by unlimited homosexual militant propaganda.

          • Valri

            You miss the point. If you are complaining that homosexuals having sex shouldn’t be done because the end result isn’t procreation, then you must logically be opposed to the elderly or infertile doing it. But once again you ignore the fact being presented to you and instead post a snarky and stupid anti-gay remark.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            stop changing subjects when you are wrong EVERY time for all to see

          • Valri

            Who changed the subject? Anal sex, right? Practiced by gay and straight couples alike. But you’re giving the straights a free pass because you’re a bigot.

          • singlemom_4

            Yeah it will. Gay sex is disgusting!

          • Seabeacon

            You need Jesus.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            anal is gross and my doctors give the advice to avoid anal and oral sex to prevent disease. Homosexuals should follow the advice of doctors if not the Bible or church leaders

          • Korova Milk Bar

            exactly, and hard is it to figure this fact out? not at all difficult.
            not even a curiosity if you have a healthy, instinctive soul. let’s see .. hmm .. i eat food and 24 hrs later its coming out of “there” .. i’ll just take care of business and move on. you don’t post it on Facebook!

          • John N

            But of course heterosexuals can continue doing oral and anal sex if they want to. Because nothing in your book that says they can not, so …

            What a relief.

          • Azsteve53

            No, heterosexuals who use orifices for something other than what they were designed for also suffer diseases and it is just as wrong. Nice try at spin on your part.

          • John N

            Then I suggest you quit focussing on homosexuals and start warning heterosexuals to stop doing ‘wrong ‘ sex. After all, there are a lot more straights than there are gays, so the impact is much higher there.

            I’ m sure they will appreciate your meddling with their private lifes. After all, it is for there own wellbeing, is it not?

            To make sure that they listen to you,
            you could vote a law saying man to woman marriages are no longer allowed due to the risk of ‘wrong’ sex.

            Glad to be of help.

          • PARKS CURTIS

            MY BELIEF IS BASED ON THIS THAT BETWEEN 2 CONSENTING MARRIED INDIVIUALS ( LOL NO GOD DOES NOT AGREE WITH SVOTUS OR OTHERS ABOUT ” ALTERNATIVE MARRAGES / CHILD MARRIAGE 4 WIVES ) IN WAYS NO ONE GETS HURT IS MY UNDERSTANDING:
            Hebrews 13:4
            “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.”

            King James Version (KJV)

          • afchief

            Your making me sick man!

          • Karova Milk Bar

            it is what they do, not me. clarity clarity for effect, no sugar coating to hide the truth

          • acontraryview

            I wouldn’t recommend that, Karova. You shouldn’t do that next time. Try douching first.

          • lorac odraned

            Homosexuality is a sin. Sin does not merit reward. Jesus created woman for man. God’s design and word trumps man’s, always did, always will.

          • Valri

            Homosexuality has always existed and always will. It has nothing to do with sin. It is simple attraction.

          • Azsteve53

            Thats right, homosexuality can not be genetic, it has to be all about attraction, thank you for being honest for once

          • Valri

            It is about attraction. Not action. Homosexuality is not a practice, it’s a state of being.

          • acontraryview

            “and to a certain extent promiscuity.”

            Promiscuity does not cause disease. The way in which one has sexual relations has the potential to cause disease.

          • Valri

            Promiscuity in combination with lack of protection is really what I meant.

          • acontraryview

            Agreed.

          • Azsteve53

            Homosexual marriage is a political issue and has been, there are homosexuals demanding to get married, most of the time strictly for political purposes, the percentage of homosexuals who get marries are about 2% of the 2-3% of the population that is considered homosexual

          • Valri

            What “political” reasons would a gay couple have for wanting to get married? Their reasons are identical to straight people’s.

          • Chris

            Troll

          • Valri

            Allergic to facts?

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Let’s see. One couple I know living in the Netherlands are both around 70 now. Another couple I know are both in their sixties. First love for both couples and both are monogamous. That is what I call true love.

          • afchief

            There is always an exception to everything (yet this is just your word which I do NOT trust). Still, it is not about love, it is about sex!!! Now those who practice sodomy have looked to the perverted judges for dignity. What they fail to understand (or choose to ignore) is the fact that the courts have neither the power nor the authority to dignify such perverse behavior. No court decision can possibly give dignity to men who service other men. It is proof that they hate themselves.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            but not Marriage.
            i loved a tree once, and then it got hit by lightning:^(

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            How do you have sex with one? Just curious.

          • Korova Milk Bar

            knot holes .. but kick the squirrels out 1st

        • Chip01

          Faux Christians spewing this toxic rhetoric is so unappealing and people see it for the absolute lies that it is… It has two major impacts :

          1) Christianity has taken the hit and has drastically seen their numbers decline.

          2) At the same time, this toxic rhetoric helped propell people who are gay to equality faster than any oppressed minority in history….

          So Chief. Thanks. Keep up the good work.

          • afchief

            Thanks!!! I just love speaking the “TRUTH”!!!!

          • Chip01

            LOL
            AFCHIEF writes: I just love speaking the “TRUTH”!!!

            Putting the word (truth) in quotes is a symbol that you don’t believe even yourself. It’s a way of showing sarcasm.

            For example. If I write

            “Thank you” for coming over…

            I’m being sarcastic.

          • afchief

            Thanks again!!! I just love speaking the “TRUTH”!!!!

        • Richard Jones

          You are so full of hatred for a group of people who are not harming you in any way. How do you live with yourself?

          • afchief

            Does the truth bother you?

        • Elie Challita

          Does Jesus also look down on all smokers, people who drink too much, and those who develop health problems from junk food?

          • afchief

            Jesus does not look down on anyone. He stands at the door everyone’s heart and knocks.

            Revelation 3:20 (NASB) Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

          • Elie Challita

            But do you consider obese people sinners, because they are exposing themselves to a risky lifestyle?

          • afchief

            Philippians 3:19 (NASB) whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things.

          • Elie Challita

            So why do you not vituperate against gluttons and tobacco smokers the same way that you attack homosexuals?

          • afchief

            What is the discussion?

            Attack? I’m quoting scripture and doctors.

          • Elie Challita

            Chief, you just claimed that homosexuals are a special kind of sinner because they embrace a destructive lifestyle. Why do you limit your claims to homosexuals, instead of calling everyone sinners because they do not lead a healthy lifestyle?

          • afchief

            Because the article is about homosexuality.

      • Korova Milk Bar

        always the “who you can be in love with” bs argument .. go ahead and
        fall in “love” with their similar parts (masturbation USING another person)
        but don’t demand equality and
        Marriage which means something COMPLETELY different! look it up

        • Valri

          You’re looking 100% at sex and 0% at relationship. Figures. I wonder how you fundamentalists stay married at all.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            If he is a guy,I’m not surprised.

          • gizmo23

            Over 50% don’t

      • Violet Vanderhelm

        The Lord CHrist of God dictates the laws against homosexuality – not man. That is why God created a man and woman to procreate which homosexuals couples cannot procreate a child of their own genetic make up – not natural. Homosexuals get a variety of diseased due to their actions that heterosexuals do not.

        • Valri

          Wrong. HIV strikes heterosexuals too. There is no disease that is specific to homosexuals. Homosexuals don’t become couples for procreation but because of love.

      • Azsteve53

        Homosexuals are self loathing and self hating overwhelmingly so, that is well documented, the homosexual militant activist always tries to make the homosexual the victim of something beyond their control and that is pure politics, not fact.

        I love my family members and some friends but love has nothing to do with sex. Sorry to inform you that people can love each other all of the time without a sexual attraction, that is just plain a false flag attack much as the debunked claim that homosexuality is somehow genetic and cannot be changed or reconciled, totally false.

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh see another person who claims he/she knows homosexuals.

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      Are we judging again what we not know? You are so full of yourself.

      • afchief

        Just speaking truth!!!

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Roflmao! The truth? Riiiiiight!

          • afchief

            Don’t ya just love it????

            The truth is the enemy of liberals and homosexuals!!!

            Just read yours and other’s posts around here.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I’m not liberal or homosexual. Try again.

          • afchief

            Why do you have the “rainbow colors” in your avatar?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Cause I support LGBT doesn’t make me a liberal or homosexual. Makes me someone who lives in a nation where homosexuality has been very normal for a very long time. And *gasp* our nation is still here, religious freedom is still a fact, we have still churches in our nation.

          • afchief

            No, I feel you are a homosexual and just hiding the fact. Which is why you are here.

            Jesus and we Christians do love you!!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Yeah, that s why I’m right now wathing a movie with the hottie Gerard Butler, cause I like women. Right!

          • afchief

            There is freedom in Jesus Christ. He will not let you down!!!! I promise!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I have freedom. Not married, no kids, no one who tells me what to do. Yep, I have freedom.

          • afchief

            There is no freedom in sin!

            Romans 6:16 (NASB) Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So being a single 40 something woman, watching hot Gerard Butler is a sin? How so?

          • afchief

            We are all sinners and in need of a Savior.

            Romans 3:23 (NASB) for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            That is no answer to my question. But then again, if you don’t have a answer you quote the bible.

          • afchief

            The Word of God is what I stand on. I read it everyday. It lives within me. I long for it. It is LIFE. It is TRUTH. It is the WAY.

            It is God’s Word!!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Still no answer. Guess you don’t have one, typical.

          • afchief

            The Word of God IS my answer!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Don’t have a opinion of your own? No surprise.

          • Seabeacon

            Nice cop out on his part…

          • John N

            Which means, in your own words, you are not a free man. You are the slave or the prisoner of your deity.

            Well I guessed so, all that talk about free will seemed very odd to me.

          • afchief

            Nope! I still have a free will to do what ever I want. However, I choose to serve Jesus Christ.

          • John N

            Yes, because if you don’t, he is going to throw you into the fire and punish you forever!

            Some free will you got there.

          • afchief

            Why? The truly spiritual man is something of an oddity. He lives not for himself but to promote the interests of Another. He seeks to persuade people to give all to his Lord and asks no portion or share for himself. He delights not to be honored but to see his Savior glorified in the eyes of men. HIs joy is to see his Lord promoted and himself neglected. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk. For this he earns the reputation for being dull or overly serious so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens. He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces( see psalm 45:8) and finding few or none he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.

            It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God………Two things remain to be said. One, that the lonely of whom we speak is not a haughty man, nor is he the holier than thou, austere saint so bitterly satirized in popular literature. He is likely to feel that he is the least of all men and is sure to blame himself for his very loneliness. He wants to share his feelings with others and to open his heart to some like-minded soul who will understand him, but the spiritual climate around him does not encourage it, so he remains silent and tells his griefs to God alone ( Tozer-The Radical Cross)

          • John N

            >’He seeks to persuade people to give all to his Lord and asks no portion or share for himself. He delights not to be honored but to see his Savior glorified in the eyes of men. HIs joy is to see his Lord promoted and himself neglected.’

            So did all slave regarding their masters.

            The only difference is, they did it to survive. You are proud to be his puppet.

            Now that still does not give you the right to insult and discriminate people that do not believe like you, I’m afraid.

            You know how your god calls people judging others of committing wrong, while knowing the are sinners themselves, don’t you afchief? And you know what happens with these people after they die, dont you?

          • gizmo23

            You seem to hate everyone different than yourself

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            But he is always good for when you need a good laugh.

          • gizmo23

            Very true

          • afchief

            If you think quoting scripture is hate. The Word of God calls homosexuality sin. That is not hate. It is truth!!!!

          • singlemom_4

            You say homosexuality has been normal for a long time, by man’s standard, not by God’s standard. His word says it’s an abomination; it’s exchanging the truth for a lie; it’s changing the natural function of human sexuality (male/female sexual intercourse) into what is unnatural. On the Day of Judgment only what God said is going to matter, not a judges opinion. As we all will answer to the Most High God for our thoughts, our words, and our actions.

          • Seabeacon

            Paul thought it was a punishment from God for not worshiping. They were so clueless. What do you expect from ignorant folks that thought sperm contained the whole baby?

          • afchief

            What?

          • Seabeacon

            Romans 1:26-27.

          • John N

            So you are saying homosexuality is not normal because a book tells you so?

            Well, if your book is right, why making such an issue? It will be solved in the end.

            And if your book is wrong, why making such an issue? It is already solved.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Good thing we don’r follow your “God’s” law.

          • Amos Moses

            “Cause I support LGBT doesn’t make me a liberal or homosexual.”

            Delusion…………….

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I’m hetero and not political, hence no homosexual or a liberal. Politicals are all corrupt, hence I don’t vote. But then again you people are very good at judging people you don’t even know. I judge by character not who or what a person is. And your character I don’t like. Closed minded towards people who have a different religion or sexual orientation. Like I stated before, glad I’m not like you.

          • Amos Moses

            “I’m hetero and not political, hence no homosexual or a liberal.”

            Wrong again………….. and still a delusion.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            I like man parts, have no idea what to do with woman parts

          • singlemom_4

            Cause she’s a perverted liberal bisexual!

          • singlemom_4

            Liberal or bisexual?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Nope, hetero and not political.

    • Korova Milk Bar

      DSM certified hate, you’re right!
      I always promote we put “them” all on an Island FAR offshore .. but this is a start

      • afchief

        No, we show the the love of Jesus so they can have freedom from this lifestyle.

        • John N

          You show the love of Jesus by insulting and discriminating people and doing everything to rob them from their human rights.

          Your Jesus must be very proud of you.

          • afchief

            Speaking truth is insulting? Sorry, I will never stop speaking the truth about homosexuality and will continue to expose the lies surrounding it.

          • John N

            Speaking the thruth is never insulting.

            You, on the other hand …

          • afchief

            Then show me where I have lied?

            Waiting………………………………………..

          • John N

            >’Sorry, I will never stop speaking the truth about homosexuality and will continue to expose the lies surrounding it.’
            A statement which contains at least two lies.

          • afchief

            What I thought! NOTHING!!!

          • John N

            I prophesyze that some twenty years from no you will be ashamed of what you say today, just like the christians that opposed interracial marriage some fifty years ago and the christians that opposed interreligious marriage before them.

            And second the only thing you expose here, is your own hypochrisy and bigotry.

          • afchief

            Wow! You are a liar!!! What I already knew!

          • John N

            Nice respose coming from a man who is proud to promote long time refuted lies from homophobe hate websites.

            But I guess it’s ok to lie for your god – is that not why proselytizing is al about?

        • Karova Milk Bar

          agree, as much as that can help THEM, but then when “forced” to accept them calling what they do “marriage”, give them a ride with Johnny Depp far away .. far far away to the Caribbean.

    • Chip01

      And yet. Jesus robbed you of a life beyond spewing your toxic garbage.

      I have zero respect for you- but would find it more refreshing if you stepped out from your hiding and not try to use religion to mask your personal bigotry. Just admit all your hate is all the self loathing you have.

      • afchief

        Does the truth bother you? No born again bible believing Christian can call homosexuals normal let alone gay marriage acceptable. Most of us Christians know why you gays come to Christian websites like this. 1. They are searching for the truth because they know in their heart what they are doing is wrong. 2. They want and need our affirmation of their lifestyle. They need for Christians to say their lifestyle is OK and God approves of it because their heart is condemning them. Or 3. They hate us and everything Christian and want us to fall off the face of the earth.

        • John N

          4. The want to find out what new, valid arguments religious bigots have found to allow them to insult and discriminate people they dislike because a book told them so.

          So far, not one.

          • Amos Moses

            The only bigots are those who hate the truth. Truth-o-phobes i guess you could call them.

        • Chip01

          4. Disqus shows me the article and it’s fun to poke holes in your faux belief system.

    • acontraryview

      “I absolutely hate it.”

      Studies have shown that there is a direct correlation between the level of gay animus and the likelihood that the person is a closeted homosexual. Just saying.

      • Amos Moses

        Studies have shown that there is a direct correlation between the level of truth animus and the likelihood that the person is a closeted homosexual. Or not closeted.

        Just saying.

        • acontraryview

          I wasn’t aware of that, but it certainly bolsters my thoughts regarding him.

  • HazumuOsaragi

    What do you think of the idea of segregating gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender students to a special school just for them, as well as any otherwise-normal student who can’t cope with a typical school?

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      Very good idea. They won’t have to deal with people like @afchief.

    • gizmo23

      We have many private schools for various reasons. If parents want it why not?

    • acontraryview

      They aren’t being “segregated”. It is a private school and attending is a choice.

      • HazumuOsaragi

        They aren’t being “segregated”.

        When is it ‘segregated’? When is it okay to use that word?

        • acontraryview

          When it’s not a choice.

          • HazumuOsaragi

            When it’s not a choice.

            So as long as ‘we’ allow ‘them’ ‘here’, and or don’t make them go ‘there’, it’s not segregation, even though ‘we’ are uncomfortable with ‘them’ around ‘here’, and some of ‘us’ actively do things to make ‘them’ feel unwelcome.

            Thanks, got it…

          • acontraryview

            No problem. Glad I could be of help.

  • Nidalap

    Well, some parents want their children to draw the perversion straight from the tap, so to speak. Now they’ve got a school for that…

  • lorac odraned

    Dumbest thing I’ve heard this week! How many gay elementary aged kids or “transgendered” kids running around? Sounds like the misery of this “teacher” needs company to affirm her illness. Wonder how many parents will send their gay kids there. Sick, twisted society we have become.

  • Chip01

    To the author: The correct pronouns are “him” and “he”.

    • Nidalap

      The author is cis-grammatical, not trans-grammatical! 🙂

  • TonyB

    Since responses seem to be off topic I will offer this… If the teacher is qualified, and I am able to afford tuition, I would prefer to have my children in a safe and supportive learning environment than in a school full of feral, unkind and unloving children. I wish there were more teachers interested in being true to themselves than submitting to societal pressures for a grossly unfair paycheck. Eventually, public schools will fail anyway.

  • Chip01

    As one embark on writing toxic comments about a subject they clearly know little about

    1) gay men are not the only humans who can be homosexual…. women too can be homosexual. They often forget that fact

    2) try to be original. Don’t focus on sex, as that’s not what makes people homo or heterosexual.

    3) dont fall into the trap of trying to associate a bad thing to being gay and therefore drawing some misaligned conclusion. Being gay isn’t a bad thing

    So these toxic arguments will fail, not because the spewer is bad people*, but because they seem to think being gay is bad, therefore the people who are gay must be bad. Neither is true.

    That brings us to 4

    4. When all the standard toxic rants are done, and have been disproven over and over again… Don’t go to the “I hate the sin/not the sinner”… Cause by the time one hit this point – ones true self has been shown

    Have fun.. Be nice to eachother.

    * there is one person this doesn’t apply to…

  • Azsteve53

    Transgender children and homosexual children are a deliberate product of parenting designed to yield that result, mainly for political reasons. If children decide to be homosexual it will come at a time when they are aware of what sexuality really is and not the product of progressive parenting indoctrination.

    Parents who engage in this process are not to be commended or encouraged, this is a travesty for society and the children who are the products of this social experimentation will be the worse for it as will all society.

    This is the thought process of people who do not believe in God or his word.

  • Chip01

    Wonderful!!

    One by one, the erosion of hate and bias will wear away. And then the churches and religions of the world can rebuild with a positive messages of true love… Leaving behind the current legacy of hate /bigotry once and for all.

  • Amos Moses

    Because, of course, it is not about pedophilia.

    RIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      Because to you it’s always about pedophilia when it comes to LGBT. Pervert.

      • Amos Moses

        No, when it comes to people who don’t want to make their own babies, because of what they do, they have to steal other peoples babies.

        Pedophilia is not just about sex. Its about making children accept a deviant “lifestyle”. That is their “perversion”……………….

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          And you call me delusional. Riiiiiiight!!!

  • Chris

    Breeding more, spawning more. Just what this country needs right now.

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      So one solution, ask hetero couples to not breed anymore. Problem solved.

      • Chris

        You are an obvious lib

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          And you don’t do sarcasm. No worries, it doesn’t make you less smart.

          • Chris

            Depends on the context and appropriation.