Apostate Episcopal Priests Welcomed Youth Minister Practicing ‘Transexualism’ Now Charged With Rape

LillyBLUEFIELD, W.V. — A West Virginia man who identifies as a woman and was welcomed by several Episcopal priests to serve as a youth minister in their assemblies has now been charged with the years-long sexual abuse of a young girl.

James “Jimmy” Lilly, 24, was taken into custody on Tuesday and is facing dozens of sexually-related charges, including one count of incest, one count of second-degree sexual assault and 31 counts of first-degree sexual abuse.

According to reports, Lilly, who was working on obtaining a teaching degree at Bluefield State College, served as a youth leader for an unspecified number of Episcopal congregation in the Bluefield area, including at Christ Episcopal Church.

“He was a youth minister, but also involved with children in other ways,” Detective K.L. Adams told the Bluefield Daily Telegraph.

“Mr. Lilly, by his own admission, is transgender,” he also stated. “He is in the process of becoming a woman.”

Police began investigating Lilly in December after being alerted that he had been sexually abusing a girl since 2009, when she was nine or ten years old. The abuse is stated to have taken place at a home and not a church building.

He was released this week after someone posted his $125,000 bond, but investigators are now looking into claims that he had abused additional children while working as a youth leader in other cities and states, such as Mechanicsville, Virginia and Atlanta, Georgia.

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“Of course in this investigation, we put out there in the news for any other victims to come forward and contact the Bluefield Police Department,” Adams told reporters. “There has been some allegations arise out of state at other churches that he has worked—possible victims there that have come forward.”

Local television station WVVA contacted officials with Christ Episcopal Church of Bluefield, but was told that Lilly never raised any red flags by engaging in behavior that they found to be strange or concerning.

“After interviewing the victim in this case, hearing all the stuff that has happened and also everything that has led up to and speaking with individuals that have been involved in Mr. Lilly’s life, we find it pertinent that he is guilty of these charges,” Adams told the outlet.

Lilly faces up to 300 years behind bars if convicted.


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  • afchief

    What a shock!!!! Not!

  • http://biblewordstudy.org Adam in Christ

    This is what happens when you endorse an “anything goes” environment, in regards to tolerating sexual sins. If those alleged priests had any discernment, they would’ve preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ to this disturbed young man. Then, if he would have accepted Christ — immediately conduct a deliverance.

    • afchief

      So true Adam. So true.

    • gizmo23

      How would they know he was a predator until he did something

      • crusader51

        It is called discernment. Even most dogs have it as you notice they do not like everyone…they can sense evil.

        • gizmo23

          I don’t have that “god” power

          • crusader51

            It is a gift for those who chose to serve G-d. Can’t buy it…no magic formula. Just the true salvation of and love for our Creator.

          • gizmo23

            So you are proclaiming that you are God with the power to see in mens hearts and determine who goes to Hades. Just a bit arrogant I would say

          • crusader51

            Not G-d, but a Son of G-d as a joint heir of salvation through Jesus Christ. Most people never know the true joy and excitement of being a true believer. Seeing miracles, signs and wonders in your daily life with eternal joy that surpasses human understanding is far more wonderful than any temporary happiness sin can provide.

            John1: The Witness of John
            …10He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. 12But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,…

            Mark 16:
            15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

            The nine gifts of the Holy Spirit are:
            1. Word of Wisdom: 1 Corinthians 2:4-7 , 2 Peter 3:15
            2. Word of Knowledge: 1 Corinthians 13:8
            3. Gift of Faith: 1 Corinthians 13:2 , Matthew 17:19-21
            4. Prophecy: John 14:26 , Ephesians 3:5 , Acts 21:9
            5. Discernment of spirits: Acts 16:16-18 , 1 John 4:1
            6. Gifts of Healings: James 5:14-15 ,
            7. Work of Miracles: Acts 20:9-12 , Acts 28:3-6
            8. Diverse kind of tongues: Acts 2:7-18 (unlearned foreign languages) , 1 Corinthians 14:22 (sign to unbelievers) , Acts 2:6-8 (sign to unbelievers) 1 Cor 12:27-28
            9. Interpretation of tongues: 1 Corinthians 14:13 , 1 Corinthians 14:28

          • gizmo23

            So how do you know if someone is going to act badly down the road or if they just aren’t scamming you?

          • crusader51

            Everyone stands before G-d individually and is given their just rewards…He is impossible to scam.

          • gizmo23

            Employers are not God

          • crusader51

            Gizmo,
            Pray and listen for that still small voice of G-d. He says my sheep know my voice. Once you are saved and truly baptized in the Holy Spirit your conscience becomes your moral compass and when you listen closely will give you answers in the first person ” I, we, etc” . You may hear other inner voices saying “you, them, etc” avoid these as they are the fiery darts of the enemy.
            Example:
            A car pulls directly out in front of you and almost causes a collision. Most common thing most people hear is “did you see what that —– just did you need to —–”
            The right voice to listen to will always chose good ” I am so glad I was able to avoid an accident and I need to pray for that person as they must be really upset about something”
            The old comedy about a demon on one shoulder and an angel on the other is more true than most people ever know.
            The right voice will never ask or tell you anything that does not line up with The Word of God and will always chose good and never evil.

        • xnlover

          The vast majority of dogs that I’ve met love me, and I’m gay. Therefore, I’m not evil (according to you). Thank you!

          • crusader51

            Yes, even some dogs go to Hell …. ever heard of the hounds of Hell?

          • xnlover

            So, when someone uses your own words against you, you change the subject. That suggests your first statement was insincere or poorly reasoned. Why should anyone listen to you further?

          • crusader51

            The same could be said for you….I should have been more blunt and just stated the all homosexuals are demon possessed and need deliverance. True discernment is a gift of the Holy Spirit. Satan has a way of being very sly in his use of words just as he did with Adam and Eve in the Garden so long ago…still at it when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness. You as one of his minions are the one to be cautious of and to stay far away from. Think long and hard on the fact Hell is a very real destination and unrepentant sinners will all have their place there. Jesus will return for His own very soon are you ready?

      • afchief

        Transgender = homosexual = reprobate mind.

        • gizmo23

          No one knew he was until after caught

          • afchief

            OK! It doesn’t change the fact that he is.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Give me the news story where that was reported. I still haven’t found it. Hard to believe no one knew until after he was caught. If that is true, someone is lying. He looks strange in the picture above…can’t tell what sex he is. That right there should raise some alarm bells if he is to work with kids…wouldn’t ya say?

          • gizmo23

            I don’t know how one can tell someone’s sexuality by looking at them. It just hasn’t worked for me and I’ve hired, and fired, 100 hundreds of people

          • Angel Jabbins

            ‘Don’t know how one can tell someone’s sexuality by looking at them…hasn’t worked for me…hiring 100’s of people’.
            Wow… that statement speaks volumes about the direction our society has gone…when we can’t even tell anymore whether a person is male or female just by looking at them. Used to be pretty obvious! Not any more as we move to being ‘genderless’. I mean, after all, it isn’t discrimination (and soon to be a hate crime) to call somebody ‘he’ if they think they are a ‘she’ or vice versa?

            You insinuated the above story, as reported by this website, was not telling the whole truth or biased in its reporting. I have checked numerous websites reporting on this story and they all report the same exact things. Only one source I could find had this statement: ” We reached out to the Christ Episcopal Church in Bluefield West Virginia, they say Lilly gave them no signs of any odd-behavior.” There were no signs of ‘odd behavior’ does not mean they did not know he was a transsexual. It is common knowledge that many Episcopal churches today are gay and transgender affirming. So they most probably DID know what his sexual identity was and still felt he was A-Okay to work with children. I have found no news source reporting they did not know he was transsexual.

          • gizmo23

            I need to clarify. I could not tell if a person was gay, straight, or by just looking at or talking to them

        • jaquelineandrews

          Most transwomen are actually heterosexual and many prey on women.

      • Josey

        Discernment and in this case the obvious fruit this man showed by his actions as dressing as a woman was a prelude to his actions. The Bible condemns men dressing as women and vice versa, God has reasons for setting guidelines about who can be a minister, He is all knowing and His wisdom knows no end, a church who follows the worlds way is in rebellion to God and His word, a friend to the world is no friend of Almighty God. God protects the innocent and it is better if a millstone is hung around their neck and they be cast into the midst of the sea than to hurt one of God’s little innocent ones. This man’s dressing as a woman should have been enough of of a warning of what was surely to follow. We in the church of Jesus Christ should have discernment and obey Christ as to the rules of who is allowed to be a minister in the first place, we don’t wait till an act takes place. You are so cold to defend this in any way because you don’t care about the children who are put at risk by such perversion.

        • gizmo23

          No one knew of his lifestyle until he was caught

          • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

            How could they have known he was a wolf when he was identifying as a sheep …

  • BravesFan

    Perversion leads to perversion.

  • concern00

    A wise society would keep anyone with a self admitted mental disorder relating to sexual behavior, away from its children.

  • Emmanuel

    Hey lefty Episcopal church members, let’s hear your excuses and weak explanations?

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      I go to an episcopal church and I am against their practices of accepting sinners like this to work for the churches. I do not endorse same sex marriage nor homosexuality but there are other aspects of the church and rectors that are good. It is a dilemma for me.

      • Emmanuel

        Time to reevaluate. Not a perfect church out there but find one that fears God.

        • Josey

          I would also add to find a church that believes in repentance and acceptance of what Christ did for us sinners on the cross. Jesus is the Truth, the Life and the only Way to the Father, there is no other way! The revelation of who Peter Jesus disciple gave after Jesus asked him who men say He is and Peter saying, “You are the Christ, Son of the living God.” was the revelation and foundation of the church that Jesus said would be built on and that the gates of hell would not prevail against her. I can overlook petty differences in church guidelines on small issues but salvation in Christ is not one of them, that is the foundation for the church, anything other than that foundation is just sinking sand. Find a church if you can that preaches Christ’s crucifixion, resurrection and remission of sins through Christ and obedience to the entire word of God. Run as fast as you can away from apostate churches who allow sin to reign for greed or political correctness so they can continue getting their 501 money.

          Galatians 5:7-9 7Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? 8This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. 9A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. One rotten apple left in the batch will rot the whole batch, get rid of the rotten apple.

          Galatians 5:16-26 16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. 18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. 24And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. 25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

      • PARKS CURTIS

        WHEN PEOPLE START COMPROMISING ON TRUTH EVEN IF THERE IS SOME TRUTH MIXED IN WITH THE FALSENESS IT IS STILL FATAL . EVEN THE DEVIL QUOTES SCRIPTURES , EVEN MUHAMMAD TRIED TO ATTACH HIS VILENESS TO JUDEA CHRISTIANITY AND IF YOU NOTICE FOOLS STILL CALL IT ABRHIANIC RELIGION … ANYWAY IF PEOPLE ARE SEXUAL DEVIANTS AND THE CHURCH IS ALLOWING THEM TO ASSUME POSITIONS THAT THE MIGHT BE PREDATORY AND OR LOOKED UP TO BY CHILDREN THAT IS JUST WRONG . … MY CHURCH WAS BAPTIST AND MINISTER UNFRIEND THAN EVEN BLOCKED ME ON FACEBOOK OVER TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM … THE CHURCHES JUST LIKE OUR GOVERNMENT ARE ALLOWING OUR LEADERS TO BE WEAK / LIARS / LOST AND IT SHOWS ..,. IRONICALLY AFTER THEY ACCUSED ME OF ” POSSIBLY HARMING FORIENGN MISSIONARIES ” A MUSLIM BOMBER POPPED UP IN OUR TOWNS WHO PL;ANMNED BOMBING EVEN ON OUR BEACH … FOR HIM TO BOMB THE CHURCH THAT BLOCKED ME FOR TRYING TO ADD AWARENESS IS MNOT A FAR STRETCH AT ALL … I LOOKED IT UP AND I WOULD NOT STAY IN A CHURCH THAT PUTS SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE ABOVE GODS TEACHINGS . ESSENTIALLY THAT IS WHAT MY CHURCH DID TOO … SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE OVER ADRESSING ISSUE HONESTLY ACCORDING TO GODS VALUES . … HERE IS AN ANOLOGY … THE FENCES AND RULES ARE TO KEEP US SAFE … IF YOU HAD A BABYSITTER THAT LEFT THE GATE OPEN FOR YOUR DOG TO RUN OUT INFRONT OF CARSA … IF THYEY ALLOWED YOUR CHILDREN TO WANDER OFF AND FELL ASLEEP IN FRONT OF THE TB V AND SAID ” OH DIONT WORRY ABOUT IT EVERYTHING WILL BE ‘FINE ‘ ” WOULDNT YOU FIRE THAT BABY SITTER ? GOD ASKS US TO TAKE STANCES … IF WE SILENTLY GO ALONG IT IAS A TYPE OF CONSENT … THE PRESSURE RIGHT NOW IS : LIBERAL COLLECTIVE SAYS SMOKING DOPE IS FINE / ISLAM IS FINE / CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE TO SOMETHINGS ITS NOT IS FINE AND IF YOU AGREE WITH GODS VALUES NOT THE LIBERAL COLLECTIVE WE WILL PRESSURE YOU CALL YOU HATEFUL ETC . ” WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE CAN PLANLY SEE WE SHOULD NOT AGREE TO SIGN OFF ON THEM … NOW THGIS IS ALSO YOUR SUPPORT GROUP … SO WEAK THEY ARE PUTTING THE WAYS OF THEW WORLD AHEAD OF GODS WAYS . … IF THEY DECIDED THEY WIOULD ALSO ” HONOR ” ISLAM BY HAVING 4 WIFE MARRIAGES OR CHILD MARRIAGES THEY WOULD USE THE SAME PRESSURE ” DONT BE SO JUDGMENTAL / HATEFUL / NARROW MINDED ” …IN REALITY GOING AGAINST GOD IS THESE THINGS … IF WE LOVE PEOPLE WE ASWK THEM NOT TO DRIVE DRUNK … BUT THE WORLD SAYS ” WHY ARE YOU SUCH A ‘BUZZ KILL ‘ … THE WORLD TRYS TO PROTRAY THAT THE FAITHFUL ARE ” THE REAL PROBLEM ” AND THAT THOSE STRAYING ARE ” COURAGEOUS / IOPEN MINDED / ETC ” IN THE END THEY DEFEND THE THINGS THART DESTROY PEOPLE AND NATIONS AND THEY CONDEMN THE THINGS THAT PROTECT US … WHEN PEOPLE SELL OUT THEY ARE ART ODDS WITH GOD . STERILIZING THIS IS THE GREATEST PART OF THE BATTLECV, AND BASED ON YOUR NATURAL FAITH YOU KNOW WHAT YOU MUST DO . THE GREAT PART IS THAT WALKING ALONE WHEN OTHERS ARE COLLECTIVELY CAVING IN IS A CROWN TO P-LACE AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS / YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT VIOLET BUT YOU ONLY NEED GODS … THAT THE SAME SEX HONEYMOON NORMALIZING IS ANYONES PRIORITY WHILE PEDOPHGILES ARE ROAMING THE EARTH SHOWS HOW WORTHLESS / SOCIAL LEMMING ORIENTATION THERE VALUES ARE
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        What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

  • Reason2012

    When someone’s a false teacher, they’re not going to make it obvious.

    Matthew 7/15-20
    “[Jesus said] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

    They’re going to look and talk and sound and act just like a Christian. So just because someone looks, talks, sounds, acts just like a Christian, that does not mean they are a Christian. The person may very well believe they are a Christian.

    So how do you REALLY know? How can THEY really know?

    … “Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

    If a woman is preaching when God tells us they are not to, that’s your first corrupt fruit.

    If a “pastor” says God’s ok with homosexual behavior now, that’s corrupt fruit.

    Of COURSE false teachers are going to make it sound legit.
    Of COURSE false teachers are going to make it sound like they’re Christians.
    Of COURSE false teachers are going to make it seem like they really love God and care for you.

    So you can’t dismiss someone being a false teacher just because they SAY they’re a Christian, ACT like a Christian, SOUND like a Christian, DRESS like a Christian, read the Bible like a Christian, go to church like a Christian, but by their fruit you will know them.

    Reading on:

    … “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
    Matthew 7/21-23

    Jesus warns us right after warning us of false teachers and knowing them by their fruit that MANY will claim to be Christian and will be cast into hell.

    People need to get OUT of that church and into one that preaches God’s truth and ask themselves why they allowed themselves to stay under such false teaching for so long.

    “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.”
    Philippians 2/12-13

    • Josey

      It’s becoming more and more difficult to find a Bible believing and preaching church especially in my area, they have become social clubs and seeker friendly, I’d rather be told the truth in God’s word for God chastises those He loves than to sit through a church service where they tickle the ears, most of the truth I get is from a couple of preachers online such as a wonderful preacher by the name of Pastor Lawson who does not hold back and of course through prayer and reading the Bible myself. Please say a prayer for me and my family that we can find a place soon where the word of God is preached in truth and upheld and where God’s glory is not given to another. He alone is worthy to be praised, glorified in all things. Love your comments reason, biblically sound, thank you and thanks to Angel and a few others on here for speaking boldly the truth from God’s word, God bless you brothers and sisters, can’t wait to meet you in Heaven.

      • Angel Jabbins

        Amen, Josey. I pray you will find a good place to worship soon. Pastor Lawson is a wonderful preacher. Praise God for access to the preaching of biblically solid pastors online.

  • Liz Litts

    “becoming a woman” in an effort to avoid jail time for HIS crimes agianst this child.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      Assault of a child is a crime, regardless of what sex the person is. I woman can rape a little girl digitally or with objects. Both equally as bad whether man or woman. He still has to pay for his crime. Life in prison. He is mentally ill and a threat to society and family. The girl was related in one case – article state incestous rape.

  • Violet Vanderhelm

    Sins of the church. The church leaders have corrupted themselves by their apostasy and God will judge them. They have placed children at risk.

    • Bill Clay

      Because he is a weido right off the bat. He is a man who thinks he is a woman….

    • Josey

      Jesus will spew them out of His mouth unless they repent and quickly.

  • Angel Jabbins

    He ‘was welcomed by several Episcopal priests to serve as a youth minister in their assemblies’….
    These so-called church leaders and the entire denomination, for that matter, should be sued for opening the way for perverts like this to have access to children….all in the name of diversity and not wanting to judge anyone. Transgenderism is not normal and never will be. The Episcopal Church has opened the way for this kind of abuse of children with their liberal, unbiblical y affirming policies. Shame on them for being more concerned about being politically correct than about the safety of children.

    He claimed he was a woman…said he was ‘in the process of becoming a woman. I assume that means sex change operation…yet he goes after girls to have sex with them. So he is a boy or a girl? How confusing and how shameful people want to legitimize and even celebrate transgenderism today. Here is the sad result. There will be more of it. This was going on for years and in many locations before it came to light….as is often the case with child sexual abuse. And opening up bathrooms to transgenders will certainly mean more stories like this one.

    • gizmo23

      How would they know this until he did something wrong.
      You seem to often blame people without knowing the facts

      • Angel Jabbins

        How about some good old common sense here? (even though I know that is a concept that is alien to most today.) You don’t put a person who has gender issues….can’t decide what he is…in charge of children. . He was abusing children for YEARS and in many places…completely undetected.
        Why on earth take a chance with a person this? Why did this ‘church’ condone transgenderism in the first place and allow a transgender person to work in close proximity to children? Isn’t a child’s right to safety, privacy, and the protection of his/her innocence more important than the so-called ‘rights’ of sexually deviant people.
        Trangenderism is not NORMAL! It (the condition) has no ‘rights’! It was considered a mental problem until just recently… for which people received treatment. Now we just tell transgenders they have a RIGHT to be another gender it they feel like it or are conflicted about it…..to use the bathroom of the opposite sex if they so chose. And now it is the rest of us who are mentally ill for disagreeing with such policies and wanting to protect children who may come into contact with these people. Oh..but ALL transgenders are not child abusers you will say. Well it can be pretty hard to sort that out….it went on many years with this guy whom everyone thought just great. Now look at the trail of damaged lives. But….being politicailly correct…oh…that trumps protecting children.

        • gizmo23

          He didn’t say he was trans until after caught. Something not clear here but reported on other media. They very reason all stories should be cross checked. Haven’t many preachers been been hired only to find out they have a dark side later?

          • Angel Jabbins

            “He didn’t say he was trans until after caught.”

            How do you know this? I have searched several news outlets cnn, msn, fox, including Reuters, Drudge. Typed it into search engines. Where ever I did find this story, it connected me right back to this very article. ‘Reported in other media’…give me the links, please.

            Yes, all people preaching, teaching, especially those working with children should be screened, vetted, carefully no matter their credentials. The bible lays out how church leaders are to be chosen in 1 Timothy and Titus. Too bad these churches don’t follow the scriptures and carry out proper church discipline. That could root out these kinds of situations before they even get started. That it went under the radar so long speaks volumes.

            If the policy of this church was to be accepting of gays and transgenders, they left themselves wide open for something like to happen. How could they not know he was trans? It is usually pretty obvious after a while with cross dressing and other such behaviors. The Episcopal Church is one denomination that has been gay, trans, etc. affirming so this story does not surprise me one bit.

          • D.M.S.

            Did gizmo ever give you a link?

          • Angel Jabbins

            No, he didn’t. He has pulled this before. Complains about this website (which he doesn’t have to visit at all) being so biased and, when I call him out to prove it, he disappears from the scene of the crime. 🙂

        • Josey

          exactly angel! These defenders of it show their fruit also.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Thanks, Josey.

  • JoshG

    As sad and disturbing as this article is, does anyone else see the laughable addmission by the “blind guides” in this church

    “Local television station WVVA contacted officials with Christ Episcopal Church of Bluefield, but was told that Lilly never raised any red flags by engaging in behavior that they found to be strange or concerning.”

    You mean the fact that he/she was a man attempting to be made into a woman wasn’t a red flag? Come on, son….:facepalm:

    …can we say “professing to be tolerant, they became nincompoops” (my translation:)

    • Guest

      Go read the main stream press reports. He wasn’t claiming to be transgender during the 2009 to 2014 period of the abuse. I think the new gender identity issues are probably guilt oriented.

      This person self identified as male during the abuse, maybe the new transgender is an attempt to distance?

      And considering the many many cases of heterosexual abuse of minors by people in the church making a big deal about this and not those is hypocritical. It’s child sexual abuse that’s the crime no matter what the perpetrator’s gender identity.

      • Nidalap

        So…what you’re saying is…sometimes transgengerism is just child predator-guilt? Okey-doke! 🙂

        • gizmo23

          How do we know what you might do until you do it? We don’t convict people on maybes

        • Guest

          Of course, sometimes anything can be a plea for forgiveness or neurotic attempt to wish away a history of bad behavior.. We know many claims of religious conversions are just such things too, see it in prisoners frequently, and people figuring ways to take vowes of chastity.

          That of course says nothing about these things in people not under a tremendous burden of guilt.

          • Nidalap

            I see! We should first determine if these folk suffer from a mental illness rather than risk potentially encouraging them in it. Good thinking! 🙂

        • Josey

          right, anyone who buys this as some defense shows what is in their heart as well. Bunch of nuts!

      • JoshG

        Thanks Guest, you could be correct, but I have not found a source to corroborate the info you provide. Could you? Also, just because we point out the oddity of this particular story does not mean we care less about other stories that show a normal man who molests. You a re right to say that is equally bad. But we all take a closer look at oddities, like when a woman molests a girl or boy. That is odd and it gets more attention. I hope you understand that most true Christians take ALL sexually perverse sins seriously…we are sad when it happens in and outside the church, but since we are all sinners in need of the grace of God,it is likely and unfortunalty going to continue. Hope this helps.

        • Guest

          On vacation in Mexico and don’t have the data to look it up but if you do a search on his name you will find the articles. The church setting pictures are all of them as s man and the various churches talk about the long breaks since they’ve seen him. Considering the only one known victim and the charge of incest this sounds like in home abuse fueled by access, the most common kind of sexual abuse even in Christian homes.

          Eventually we’ll know more but until then I’ll just pray for everyone involved.

    • gizmo23

      This article is a distortion. He didn’t proclaim anything until after he was fired

      • JoshG

        Could you please provide the source of this information? I can’t find another source.

        • gizmo23

          You have to google his name and look in news. It is a very obscure story not picked up by any large media

      • Josey

        Your defense of this says a lot, maybe you are a transgender who likes to stalk Christian sites or a homosexual, he admits to being a transgender. One reason we don’t need to allow transgenders to use the opposite sex bathrooms to protect innocent children from the perverts.

        • gizmo23

          What stops someone now from using the opposite bathroom?

          I’m not defending him, just pointing out that all “news” is slanted.

  • gizmo23

    Many here seem to think they have the power to know what is in someones heart and how they will act. Isn’t that a power reserved to God?

    • afchief

      God’s Word is truth. He told us WHY people have reprobate minds. This is one of the reasons.

    • Josey

      Jesus said you will know them by their fruit, words and actions are the fruit and God has set clear guidelines as to who can be a minister, this is an abomination and only bad rotten fruit comes from allowing homosexuals or transgenders into the church of Jesus Christ to be ministers when they obviously reject the only true salvation and deliverance from such sins that only comes by repentance from them and accepting the One and only True way to Salvation through Christ Jesus. Also concerning the power reserved to God as you say, Hasn’t God given us wisdom and understanding to judge the fruit of others. 1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

      • gizmo23

        How many good ministers have later found out to do or have done horrible things? You can never tell 100% how a person will act in all situations.

  • Toro Keng

    Strict walls for church membership is essential.
    Not everyone claimed to be saved, is really saved.
    There is no universal ‘invisible’ church, there is only local assembly for christian to gather.

    Thy fruit and thy work will tell whether you have true faith.

  • SFBruce

    If the accusations against this individual prove true, of course prison for a long time is what’s called for. That said, this is only one person, and it would be unfair to blame all trans people, because of the actions of one.

  • crusader51

    This is what happens when you invite Satan in…Homosexuals are demon possessed and I do not care about being PC on the issue. Christians are commanded to eliminate evil from among them and not to fellowship with evil. Any other Church doctrines that do not line up with the Word of God are false and anti-christ.
    The old saying the way to Hell is paved with good intentions has never been more true than today with the “hyper grace” and lack of repentance and personal responsibility.

  • 201821208 :)

    “And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female” Matthew 19:4

  • thelordlives2011

    Why would an Episcopal church hire a pervert to lead as a Youth Minister. You already know you are going to have problems. All the Priests of the Episcopal Church who hired this man needs to be defrocked and then they can party with this pervert.