Republican Candidates Claim to Be for ‘Life’ at Debate While Defending Abortion Exceptions

Debate-compressedMANCHESTER, N.H. — Several candidates at Saturday night’s Republican presidential debate declared themselves to be pro-life, even the “most pro-life person on the stage,” while also defending their belief in abortion exceptions.

A question was posed by commentator Mary Catherine Ham to Florida Senator Marco about how some believe that Republicans are losing today’s youth because of their position on social issues. She noted, however, that while many youth have expressed support for homosexuality, “young voters have not moved to the left on abortion.”

Rubio replied by stating that he is pro-life and that he believes that life of the child takes precedence over the interests of the mother.

“To me, the issue of life is not a political issue. It’s a human rights issue,” he said. “And it’s a difficult issue because it puts in conflict two competing rights. On the one hand is the right of a woman to choose what to do with her body, which is a real right. And on the other hand, is the right of a unborn human child to live. And they’re in conflict. And as a policy maker, I must choose which one of these sides takes precedence. And I choose to err on the side of life.”

Ham then turned to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and noted that his allies have criticized Rubio for being “too pro-life.” She asked if he stands by the criticism.

“I’m pro-life. I’m the most pro-life person on this stage because I acted on it for eight years,” Bush said, touting that he had banned partial birth abortion while in office and enacted greater regulations on abortion clinics.

However, he sought to note that he believes in exceptions and asserted that there are concerns over those who don’t make allowances.

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“I’m pro-life, but I believe there should be exceptions: rape, incest and when the life of the mother is in danger,” Bush explained. “That belief, and my consistency on this makes me, I think, poised to be in the right place of the sweet spot for the Republican nominee. … I think that we have to be cognizant of the fact there’s a lot of people that are concerned about having a pro-life position without any exceptions.”

Rubio then jumped in to clarify that he does support the exception of the life of the mother.

“I do support the exception of the life of the mother because I’m pro-life,” he said. “I just believe deeply that all human life is worthy of the protection of our laws.”

“If I’m president and there’s a bill that’s passed that saves lives but it has exceptions, I’ll sign it,” Rubio explained. “But I do believe deeply that all human life is worthy of the protection of laws. I’ve already said, for me, the issue of life is not a political issue and I want to be frank. I would rather lose an election than be wrong on the issue of life.”

Ham then turned to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, noting that he has been criticized by conservatives for attacking Rubio’s stance, which they state is “harmful to the pro-life cause.”

“No, I’ve been pretty helpful to the pro-life cause in one of the most pro-choice states in the Union,” Christie replied, stating that he defunded Planned Parenthood six years ago, and contrasting himself with Hillary Clinton.

However, he proceeded to speak vehemently about why he supports exceptions.

“I believe that if a woman has been raped, that is a birth and a pregnancy that she should be able to terminate,” Christie said. “If she is the victim of incest, this is not a woman’s choice. This is a woman being violated.”

“And the fact is that we have always has believed, as has Ronald Reagan, that we have self-defense for women who have been raped and impregnated because of it, or the subject of incest and been impregnated for it,” she said. “That woman should not have to deliver that child if they believe that violation is now an act of self-defense by terminating that pregnancy.”

Former U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop, M.D., once stated, “Protection of the life of the mother as an excuse for an abortion is a smoke screen. In my 36 years of pediatric surgery, I have never known of one instance where the child had to be aborted to save the mother’s life. If toward the end of the pregnancy complications arise that threaten the mother’s health, the doctor will induce labor or perform a Caesarean section. His intention is to save the life of both the mother and the baby. The baby’s life is never willfully destroyed because the mother’s life is in danger.”


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  • jael2

    I would like to ask each one of the candidates that support exceptions this question: ” Why would you want to punish an innocent baby for the sins of the father?” ( punish the rapist, not the baby) And secondly, why would you want to further traumatize a woman who has been raped, by a highly invasive “procedure”?
    An abortion will never un-rape a woman.

    • Bob Johnson

      ” Why would you want to punish an innocent baby for the sins of the father?”

      Because it is God’s will unto the third and fourth generations. Reread Exodus and Deuteronomy.

      • FoJC_Forever

        Old Covenant, not New Covenant.

        Reread the four Gospels, plus the accompanying letters written by the Apostles. God doesn’t forgive Sin through Jesus only to revisit it upon the sinners children and grandchildren.

        • Bob Johnson

          Ah so those Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 to which the “sins of the father” is the preamble no longer apply?

          • FoJC_Forever

            You’re the typical religious person who can quote the Bible, but doesn’t know the LORD. Your opening is that a baby can be aborted – murdered – because the father raped the mother.

            You’re in for a shock when you stand before Jesus (the) Christ.

          • Bob Johnson

            No, I’m one of those Christians that doesn’t believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God which is to be taken literally, thereby creating a large amount of convoluted apologetics.

            I also learned starting way back in Sunday School that the soul entered the body with the first breadth; not when your parents stated breathing heavily. Also good works counts, getting into heaven depends more than just accepting Jesus on your deathbed. And that we are to render unto Caesar.

            I need to live my life so that I am of a free and clear conscience when I stand before Peter at those Pearly Gates.

          • Bob Johnson

            I also get upset when people tell me that abortion is murder, but child safety seats is government intrusion into your inalienable rights.

          • afchief

            Abortion IS murder!!!

            Baby Saved

            Columbus, OH – Aug 5, 2014 – “I just left the doctor’s office. I was heavily leaning toward it [abortion],” the pregnant mother told us last Friday, her eyes on our signs of abortion victims lining the street. Created Equal’s team was standing outside Mt. Carmel East in Columbus—a Catholic hospital which grants admitting privileges to abortionists—publicly exposing this hypocrisy when Deirdra pulled her car over on the side of the road to share her story.

            Tears streaming from her eyes, Deirdra told us she would no longer consider killing her baby. After seeing the victims, abortion was no longer a viable alternative in Deirdra’s mind. It was an act of violence in which she wanted no part.

            Just moments before, one Mt. Carmel doctor had approached Mark to declare that we were wasting our time; that our strategy wasn’t effective.

            Deirdra disagreed. She finished by saying: “You are making a difference.”

          • FoJC_Forever

            Then you learned wrong. God “breathing” into man after He created him was God imparting a spirit into him.

            Those who support abortion support murder. The innocent blood is upon your head too.

            Judgement is coming.

        • Bob Johnson

          God only forgives sins if you believe in Jesus Christ, the rest (that is most of the human population) is damned to the lake of fire.

          • afchief

            Matthew 7:13 (NASB) “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

  • Concern

    This is the kind of hypocrisy that makes my smile, when so many Evangelicals and Conservatives attack Obama for supporting a woman’s choice to have abortion.
    What is the difference between a baby @ 1 week old and 3 mos old in the pregnancy process.
    To be, it is murder in both cases. But to many republicans , it is not.
    They have define Sin to be “late term ” abortion thereby deceiving themselves and the gullible.
    And since Obama is for abortion rights , then it becomes a bigger sin….they actually have control over they god to let him know that only late term abortion is sin. And the republican god agrees.

    • afchief

      So this is a justification for voting Demon-crat? 0bama believes in killing babies born alive. Only one who serves satan can believe in such! If you are the same Concern who posts on Charisma, I know where you are going with this….justifying your vote for the most evil man in America’s history…..0bama!!!

      And yes, all abortion is murder.

      • Concern

        Yes I am…All is well with you I see….

        • afchief

          Did you get banned from Charisma? There is a bunch of people here from Charisma.

          • Concern

            I was once banned from Charisma News , but not Charisma Mag..but then they took the ban off in December 2015 from Charisma News.
            But those monitors are way too petty; too many comments are deleted for no clear reason , except the Monitor don’t like the comment…but it is their site they do as they please.

  • afchief

    “I’m a Christian as well, but I have struggled with this question…What about abortion when the life of the mother is at stake? Shouldn’t a woman be allowed to make that choice?”

    “What a terrible choice to be confronted with,” I answered her. “But it is my experience that a case in which the mother has to make that choice is very rare. I cannot speak for you, or for anyone else. But I can tell you this; if my wife were confronted with that choice there is no question what she would do. My wife would sacrifice her life for the life of her child because Jesus taught us that ‘greater love has no man than this, than He would lay down His life for his friends.’ The greatest demonstration of love that we can ever show is to give our life for another.”

    A student asked, “What about rape? You don’t think a woman should have to carry a child from a rape, do you?” All eyes in the room were boring in on me, and all ears were open, as the Truth of God’s view pierced their hearts.

    “Let me use my wife as an example again,” I explained. Suppose she was made pregnant through a rape. Isn’t that child she is carrying half her, just like the rest of our 3 children? Just because my wife’s 4th child happens to have a different father does the baby not deserve to live? Will having an abortion take away the memory of the rape? Do two wrongs make a right? My Faith teaches that life is never a mistake, but a gift from God. And even though the rape was a horrendous experience, my wife and I would make the decision to give the child life and trust that the Lord would make something great come from the horrible situation. I’ll make you a bet that in 2 years that little bugger’s picture will be on our refrigerator.” “And, by the way, why would we give the child the death penalty for the actions of his father?”

    • daves

      All are good reasons to not have an abortion. None are good reasons to force others to live by your beliefs.

      • afchief

        Does the baby get a choice?

        • daves

          Life begins at birth.

          • afchief

            Nope! Life begins when God says it does…….at conception.

          • daves

            God says that about immaculate conception. Otherwise God says if you kill a fetus you have to pay a fine. If you kill the mother you must be put to death.

          • afchief

            Nope!

            Jeremiah 1:5 (NASB) “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,

            Psalm 139:13-14 (NASB)
            13 For You formed my inward parts;
            You wove me in my mother’s womb.
            14 I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;

          • daves

            Who is the subject of Jeremiah?

            Numbers 5:27

            “If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.”

          • afchief

            God is the giver of life. Life starts in the womb. It is murder to kill an unborn baby.

            Baby Saved

            Columbus, OH – Aug 5, 2014 – “I just left the doctor’s office. I was heavily leaning toward it [abortion],” the pregnant mother told us last Friday, her eyes on our signs of abortion victims lining the street. Created Equal’s team was standing outside Mt. Carmel East in Columbus—a Catholic hospital which grants admitting privileges to abortionists—publicly exposing this hypocrisy when Deirdra pulled her car over on the side of the road to share her story.

            Tears streaming from her eyes, Deirdra told us she would no longer consider killing her baby. After seeing the victims, abortion was no longer a viable alternative in Deirdra’s mind. It was an act of violence in which she wanted no part.

            Just moments before, one Mt. Carmel doctor had approached Mark to declare that we were wasting our time; that our strategy wasn’t effective.

            Deirdra disagreed. She finished by saying: “You are making a difference.”

          • daves

            You are correct – God gives life. Not two humans having sex and fertilizing an egg.

  • acontraryview

    Each of them supports exceptions in certain cases. What’s a conservative to do?

  • gizmo23

    It doesn’t matter, they wouldn’t do anything anyway.

  • FoJC_Forever

    The Republican Party has always used the abortion issue to gather votes against the Democratic Party. They change their views to “stay relevant”, just like false religion changes doctrine to appease the culture.

    Follow Jesus, find Truth.

  • Herb Planter

    ugh they need to just take abortion outta politics, its on us christians to get out there and save these ppl from their sins. Praise Jesus!