Pennsylvania Man Faces Charge After Being Caught by Police in Women’s Restroom Stall

Shoemaker-compressedQUARRYVILLE, Pa. — A Pennsylvania man is facing an invasion of privacy charge after he was caught by police in the women’s restroom, and is believed to have been using his phone to look above and underneath the stalls.

According to reports, a 10-year-old girl who had used the restroom at the Sheetz convenient store in Quarryville told her mother that there was a man in the room and that he had been holding his cell phone over the top of the adjoining stall. Her mother had been waiting just outside of the restroom door.

When police arrived, they found James Thomas Shoemaker, 19, in the stall of the women’s restroom. Employees said he had been in the room for approximately an hour.

“Upon arrival Sgt. Roland Breault found the suspect, James Thomas Shoemaker, 19-year-old male, inside of a bathroom stall in the women’s bathroom. Shoemaker was found to be in possession of a phone as described by the victim,” a press release from the Lancaster Bureau of Police outlines.

Police state that Shoemaker told them that he had used his phone to see if there was anyone in the stall next to him. He had been in the women’s restroom looking at pornographic images on his phone.

“Further investigation revealed that Shoemaker intentionally went into the women’s bathroom, and that while in the women’s bathroom he used his phone to access pornographic images on his web browser,” the press release explained.

“Shoemaker then used his phone’s camera to look over the stall to see into the adjoining stall that was occupied by the victim. The suspect also used his phone/camera to look under the stall door to see if anyone else was in the women’s bathroom,” it said.

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Officials are now searching Shoemaker’s phone for further information. No images have been found of the girl at this point, but the investigation has not yet concluded.

Shoemaker has been charged with invasion of privacy, a misdemeanor, and was released without bail. A hearing is scheduled for May 9.

As previously reported, last year, administrators at the University of Toronto temporarily revoked its designation of a gender-neutral restroom at one of its campus facilities after two incidents of voyeurism were reported. According to the Daily Wire, male students had been caught holding their cell phones over the shower stalls to record female students while naked.

“Given the serious nature of these incidents and the impact on directly affected students, we made the decision to specifically designate some washrooms in Whitney Hall for those who identify as men and those who identify as women,” Dean of Students Melinda Scott told reporters.

The Sheetz mini mart has separate restrooms. There is no information at this time as to why Shoemaker was in the women’s restroom and not the men’s lavatory.


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  • Michael C

    Even if Pennsylvania did prohibit discrimination against gay and transgender people (they don’t), this criminal still would not have been permitted access to the women’s facilities. He entered the women’s room illegally to commit a crime.

    A law preventing transgender people from using the appropriate bathrooms wouldn’t have prevented this crime from taking place.

    • Amos Moses

      Look,,,,,,,,,giving permission for people to use a bathroom based on their “feelings”………whether they are a tranny or a pedophile or not……….gives people like this the idea they have permission to do what this guy just did……….. and it is the DIRECT RESULT of this IDIOTIC idea that it is TOLERANCE…………. Broken thinking….broken reasoning and just plain BROKEN……..michael

      • Michael C

        This guy didn’t have “permission” to enter the women’s room. He did it because he’s a criminal.

        • Ryan

          But all he has to do is say “I feel like a woman” and suddenly it’s ok.. That’s the point..

          • Michael C

            But all he has to do is say “I feel like a woman” and suddenly it’s ok

            No. It isn’t okay and it isn’t legal.

            A man can’t just say “I feel like a woman so I can use the ladies room.” That’s not how it works. You’ve been mislead.

          • Emmanuel

            How can you tell if I feel like a woman or not?

          • Michael C

            It’s pretty easy to determine which gender you identify as. I don’t think a judge or jury would have any problem.

          • Emmanuel

            You are confusing words, I feel and I identify are two different things. You can’t prove any of those in court. if so, how?

          • Michael C

            There’s no law that allows men to enter the women’s room based on their feelings.

            You’ve been mislead.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            So what defines a male other than his male anatomy?

          • Michael C

            Are you saying that the only difference between men and women is anatomical?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I’m saying that the definitions of a male and a female have been on the books for all of history, up until our society decided to cater to every fantasy man kind dreams up. I’m sure those definitions will soon be changed in all the dictionaries and anatomy text books.

          • Michael C

            There have always existed exceptions to the binary gender norms.

          • Amos Moses

            Only if your mind is corrupted and BROKEN……………………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            A transgender person will be able to produce testimomy from his/her doctors and psychiatric team regarding his/her condition and progress.

          • hytre64

            So, they are only transgender IF they have a host of doctors telling them that they have Gender Dysphoria? Otherwise, what are they, just cross-dressers?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Ahahaha a doctor says what they are therefore is it their identity or the doctors. Did the doctor deny the obvious or did he help them do so.

          • Emmanuel

            We shall see if this guy has a team to testify.

          • Guest

            Actually finding out if someone actually has a provable history of being transgender is quite easy as others have mentioned.

          • Emmanuel

            Anyone can dress like a woman and walk around saying they feel like a woman but are not interested in men. Actually, come to my work and I will introduce you to many.

          • Guest

            And so you are agreeing with me, that it would easy to show it isn’t a whim? Thanks for the support.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            unless I tell someone I identify as something other then what I am they would assume I am what I am. I have breasts, my frame is small, I have a rear end shaped like a woman, my hands are delicate like a woman , I show no signs of facial hair and the biggie that they can’t see is I have a vagina. Therefore NO unless someone states their delusional view of themselves, people only see reality in front of them.

          • Slidellman4life

            Oh, really? How?

          • Michael C

            How? By how they live their lives. I’m guessing that you can identify the gender of every person you know. It’s not difficult.

          • Slidellman4life

            Gender is identified by your genitalia, not by the way you dress or feel.

          • Michael C

            That’s odd because I know the gender of just about every person I’ve ever met even though I’ve never seen their genitalia.

          • Slidellman4life

            Uh huh.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Okay then what does a male who enters the ladies restroom, who calls himself a woman say if someone asks why he is in the ladies restroom. Unless he has major changes made, he looks like a man , not only in his skeletal frame and build, but also his anatomy. Therefore his only reply would be … ” yes I’am a male by all definition… yet I feel I’m a woman”.

          • Michael C

            …what does a male who enters the ladies restroom, who calls himself a woman say if someone asks why he is in the ladies restroom.

            If you’re talking about a transgender person, she says “I’m peeing.”

          • ComeOnPeople!

            And what part is this man who is a she using to pee with?

          • Michael C

            And what part is this man who is a she using to pee with?

            …the toilet.

          • gogo0

            who cares? are you going to check?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            The point… if you read all the posts above is that a man is a man is a man, regardless of what he feels. If any MALE is allowed into the ladies restroom by LAW , then ALL MALES must be allowed.

            Who cares? Well, most women care who if a man enters their restroom and most husbands and boyfriends of those women care. Am I going to check… well of course not… I have only to look when they enter the room to know if they are male or female. You can dress a pig in pearls but underneath it’s still a pig. You can dress a man in woman clothing, grow his hair long and even give him dangerous hormones but underneath all that he is still a man.

          • gogo0

            “a man is a man regardless of how he feels”
            sounds good, so then until you can show some examples of trans people assaulting women in the bathroom, a woman is safe in a mixed-sex bathroom regardless of how she feels

          • ComeOnPeople!

            gogo0 … “a woman is safe in a mixed-sex bathroom regardless of how she feels”

            No I’m sorry but you are mistaken. If you put into law that males must be allowed into ladies restrooms, then you open the door to men that may come in for the sole reason of exploiting women or to do them harm. If such a law is created then women & young girls would have reason to feel unsafe, because the law is no longer protecting them but catering to one group of males. Such a law discriminates against other groups of males & if passed opens the door to ladies no longer feeling they can use a public restroom away from the eyes of men.

          • gogo0

            men are already able to enter with the sole intent to harm and exploit women. the illusion of safety is not safety

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No men who enter a woman bathroom and are caught are taken to jail. Women have and men have known for ever that this is not allow in a civil society. Now a Barbarian society on the other hand does not frown upon barbaric behavior and everything and anything is the norm. So yes in a barbaric society women and children do not feel safe.

          • gogo0

            precisely, men who enter a woman’s bathroom to harm or exploit people are caught and taken to jail. men who enter a unisex bathroom to harm or exploit people would also be caught and taken to jail. the threat is the same, and the illusion of safety is not safety.

          • Slidellman4life

            It happened in Seattle, as I said. Google it.

          • Michael C

            It happened in Seattle

            …and that man had no right to be in the ladies’ room. He was told to leave.

          • Guest

            And he was asked to leave. And in Washington it has never been illegal to be a man in the ladies room or vs versa. Its what you do that makes it illegal not who you are.

          • Slidellman4life

            That is not the point. He came in, he was asked to leave, he cited the law in question, there was nothing the females within could do. Meaning it has already happened.

          • Guest

            it was never illegal at all for a man to be in a restroom in Washington. this was a guy from those against trying to ‘make a point’ and the only one he made was show the generic meanness of so many on his side of the issue.

          • Slidellman4life

            It was definitely not illegal for a man to be in a dressing room designated for females as a recently passed law opened the door for it.

            Stop being intellectually dishonest and stick with the facts, please.

          • Guest

            No the law has nothing to do with it. it could have been 1980 and no law would have been broken. there has never been a law that regulated sexes and restrooms in Washington

          • Slidellman4life

            And you are being disingenuous again. You do not know for a fact men were legally allowed into a dressing room assigned to females before that law was passed. He did not reference any past law either. Which you know.

          • Guest

            actually being from Washington state I do know for a fact such laws haven’t existed since 1976 and maybe earlier. The law about gender it entity has existed for 10 years and no law has been passed since then.

            I think either you are being ‘disingenuous’ or just talking out of pure ignorance.

          • Slidellman4life

            For some from Washington state I’m surprised you missed the fact this was a local ordinance concerning Seattle, not the entire state.

          • Guest

            Ok you don’t even know that this is about the recent restating of the guidelines by the state Human Rights Commission. Of course the city’s identical rules take precedence but it’s the same throughout the state. Same case anywhere just who it’s reported to is different.

          • Amos Moses

            No, you are misleading………………..

          • gizmo23

            No, the law doesn’t work that way and you know it

        • Amos Moses

          Yes,,,, he had permission by the corrupt societal IDEA being PROMOTED by so called the “Love Wins” Tolerance crowd and the asinine idea that “how one feels ones gender is, is what it is” and he used that IGNORANT NONSENSE as a COVER to gain access to a womans bathroom to do what he did……..michael!

          • Michael C

            …he used that IGNORANT NONSENSE as a COVER to gain access to a womans bathroom

            You’re making things up.

            I personally know women who have been sexually assaulted in women’s facilities. They were assaulted by men who entered the facilities illegally. They did not pretend to be women to enter the facilities. They just walked in. …just like this story.

            Criminals don’t care about obeying the law. They’re not dressing up like women because they don’t have to. They just walk right in.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            It’s almost as if psychopaths intending to commit a violent felony aren’t deterred by having to commit a nonviolent misdemeanor first. Crazy.

          • Amos Moses

            “They did not pretend to be women to enter the facilities.”

            AND NOW they do not have to PRETEND………..they may ENTER………under the guise of LAW……. and the ASININE IDEA that they MAY DO SO……………….

            “They’re not dressing up like women because they don’t have to. They just walk right in.”

            BINGO……broken as your mind is……..you FIGURED IT OUT!

          • Michael C

            AND NOW they do not have to PRETEND

            They didn’t pretend. That’s what I said. At the time of these incidents, transgender people could legally use the appropriate restroom in this state. These men could have pretended to be transgender in order to enter the bathroom legally, but they did not. Why didn’t they pretend to be transgender in order to enter the bathroom legally? Because they’re criminals and they’re not afraid of breaking the law. Why would they go through the trouble and humiliation of walking around in public in drag when they don’t have to. They can just walk in. The stick figure on the front of the door doesn’t stop them.

          • Amos Moses

            And now they do not have to “break the law”, tranny or not, and children are in danger…….. due to this IDIOCY………………

          • gogo0

            “AND NOW they do not have to PRETEND”

            they never had to pretend

          • Amos Moses

            yes,,,,, they sort of did……… but now…………not so much……

          • gogo0

            this guy wasnt pretending, yet still somehow managed to get past the impenetrable defenses

          • Amos Moses

            because they have brow beat everyone to NOT object to their DEPRAVITY…………… for “TOLERANCE” sake…………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I see no evidence whatsoever that this incident had anything to do with transgender people or gender dysphoria issues at all.

          • Guest

            Of course not, but these people think emotionally, not rationally. This is just the first of every bathroom related incident of any kind that will be posted. Look at the next one about a girl getting killed in a bathroom at a school by other girls.

            The goal is to make people paranoid in a bathroom – scared people are so much easier to manipulate.

          • Slidellman4life

            The goal is to make people paranoid in a bathroom

            They already are, and have every reason to be, as the above clearly shows, but you do not care.

          • Guest

            That makes no sense – this was a masculine man with ill intent and was arrested for reasons that would work whether it was a man or woman using the camera.

            I do care – but lets not punish the innocent worrying about those who aren’t.

          • Amos Moses

            No, lets create an environment where those with ill intent can go about it and not be questioned about why they are where they are and their motives for being there………….because that is the rational thing to do…… NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            No, lets be “TOLERANT” of this IDIOTIC and ASININE IDEA… that “feelings” trump common sense……..

          • Guest

            Common sense says people who genuinely feel they are women should be treated like women

          • Amos Moses

            Common sense says you don’t treat a person as a woman……………WHEN THEY ARE NOT ONE…………

          • Guest

            you are again confusing sex and gender. Men in particular can have Androgenic Insensitivity Syndrome and have a feminine gender regardless of their phenotype. Fetal development of neurological masculine structures requires a rewording of the base female starting structure which can be interfered with.

            Again, the Trans women are far far safer in the women’s restroom, and no one in the women’s room is at any significant increased risk because of it.

          • Amos Moses

            No, you are confused……… and you are trying to confuse the issue…… XX or XY….. done and done…….. all of this other nonsense is just that… we do not choose our gender.. it is not “imposed” by society….. that is all subjective nonsense…

            Gender Ideology Harms Children
            Originally posted March 21, 2016 – a temporary statement with references. A full statement will be published in summer 2016. Updated with Clarifications on April 6, 2016.
            American College of Pediatrics
            acpeds. Remove this space org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

            1. Human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait: “XY” and “XX” are genetic markers of health – not genetic markers of a disorder. The norm for human design is to be conceived either male or female.

            2. No one is born with a gender. Everyone is born with a biological sex. Gender (an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female) is a sociological and psychological concept; not an objective biological one.

            3. A person’s belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.

            4. Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous.

            5. According to the DSM-V, as many as 98% of gender confused boys and 88% of gender confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.5

            6. Children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence.

            7. Rates of suicide are twenty times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden which is among the most LGBQT – affirming countries.

            8. Conditioning children into believing that a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.

          • Guest

            hmm and since your first point is wrong it just shows how ignorance can foment so much pain for others.

          • Amos Moses

            Yeah,,,,, cant refute what has been presented….. so i am wrong…… FAIL………….

          • Guest

            actually I already did but obviously you didn’t even bother to learn anything about AIS before replying.

            your commitment to your ignorance makes it not worth the effort.

          • Amos Moses

            No, i refuted what you said…….. Doctors, men of science, Pediatricians……… compared to your nonsense……………so FAIL……………….

          • Guest

            no this is a very small organization that has no credibility. what they say is refute knowledge, not promote it.

            no one with a bit of knowledge thinks the Y chromosome and its single SRY gene is the be all and end all of phenotypical expression of sex or the neurological design of gender.

            but again you know better who could know more than you?

          • Amos Moses

            FAIL…………

          • Guest

            ah, your just trolling.

          • Amos Moses

            That would be you……….. here on a christian site………….. with nothing christian to contribute………. just worldly, fleshly, and nonsensical garbage……….

          • Ana

            Men don’t belong in women’s restrooms period! This shouldn’t even be a debate. It’s common since which apparently people lack these days

          • Guest

            Christians don’t stereotype – they all know the story of the Samaritan on the road and the standard God holds us to that you are against.

            oh and thanks for the spelling correction, I’ll take it in the spirit offered.

          • Amos Moses

            “they all know the story of the Samaritan on the road and the standard God holds us to that you are against.”

            i am not against “She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: Go, and sin no more”………. i am not against “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”………but you seem to think otherwise………. Nor am i against
            Joel
            1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
            1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
            1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
            1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
            1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

          • Guest

            yes ‘christians’ are always looking for an excuse to judge and trying to use Scripture to justify it.

            Christians think more from a James 2:13 point of view.

          • Amos Moses

            if i suspected you knew what you were talking about….. i would show you how you are wrong on that….suffice it to say…….they ARE NOT my brothers……..

            1 Corinthians
            5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
            5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
            5:6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
            5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
            5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
            5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
            5:10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
            5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner;

            with such an one no not to eat.

          • Guest

            And if I thought you knew what you just talked about I would show you how you have just condemned yourself but your sins are between you and God and not my concerned as per your quote.

          • Amos Moses

            i gave you scripture in CONTEXT……..you gave a scripture OUT OF CONTEXT AND STRIPPED OF ANY MEANING……………. so no contest………… you lose……FAIL………

          • Guest

            You gave me a Scripture where Paul is explaining the difference between the actions we take about those in the church who sin and those without, they aren’t the same.

            And those without love are not in the church, and so I repeat – your sins are between you and God and are His to judge not mine.

          • Amos Moses

            No, my sins were paid for by Christ…………… so there is no longer any judgement……… love?….. what “love” are you talking about?……do you even know what that means……….letting a person off the hook…. for the sins they are committing…….. and condemning them to Hell……….NOT love in my book………………so…..sorry…….but…….NO! And yes…….God will judge them….NOT Christ……..standing there in their stead……..and WOE unto them….. but it sounds like you are fine if that is what they do ………so………….NO!….NOT “love”……………

          • Guest

            That you don’t know the connection of love, God, and the church just punctuates my points (in contrast to just your out of control punctuation. 😺)

            Again, your sins are between you and God and aren’t mine to judge as per Paul’s words you brought up yourself. and no, I won’t be accepting any dinner invitations.

          • Amos Moses

            No, you seem to have a corrupted idea of what that love is and what it means….. and until you can articulate it in a coherant fashion…….all you are doing is hurling accusation…

            “your sins are between you and God”

            No, my sins are between me and CHRIST………..

            “aren’t mine to judge as per Paul’s words you brought up yourself.”

            Paul CONTINUES:

            6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
            6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
            6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

            “Even the SMALLEST matter………..”

          • Guest

            And you are again confusing what those in the church can do to those in the church and how that differs from those without.

            I don’t judge those without the church, I don’t judge you.

          • Amos Moses

            Oh, please…………you do nothing BUT judge……………. but i am cool with it…

          • Guest

            Discerning and identifying truth from falsehood isn’t what judging involves biblically. That it is easy to discern you have no grasp of the truth isn’t judgement, saying what God is going to do to you because of this lack is judgement.

            We see foolish people in these forums telling others what God is going to decide before the throne of judgement for them, condemning themselves to that fate in the process. I don’t judge your sins, only God will do that and even for those in the church my judgement is only in how I will deal with them, not God.

          • Amos Moses

            “I don’t judge your sins, only God will do that”

            Wrong! Christ has DONE that……………..

          • Guest

            Paul says that God will do that for those outside the church.

          • Amos Moses

            And woe unto them that choose that……………..

          • Amos Moses

            And it is “you are”………. not “your”………….

          • Ambulance Chaser

            OK, that’s nice, but the American Association of Pediatrics has taken the exact opposite position on this measure. So there are some “doctors, men of science, pediatricians” who strongly disagree with this law. So now you have to make a choice: which are you going to believe?

            1. The American Association of Pediatrics is the official, nationally-recognized organization for representing pediatricians. It has over 60,000 members nationwide and publishes the respected Journal of Pediatrics.

            2. The American College of Pediatricians was founded in 2002, specifically to oppose everything the AAP says. They have somewhere around 200 members (at best) and put forth no scientific evidence to support their positions. Those positions are basically the Republican platform on everything medical. In other words, they’re a fringe group that exists solely to oppose liberal ideas and the AAP, while sounding like a legitimate medical organization so that right-wingers can quote them and sound important.

          • Amos Moses

            i am going to believe Christ……………………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            What was it you said before about not being able to refute the points?

            But hey, that’s your prerogative. You can “believe in Christ” on this issue. What was it He had to say about transgenderism again?

          • Amos Moses

            Matthew
            19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
            19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
            19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

            Oh, gee,,,,,NOTHING there about transgenders……… just MEN AND WOMEN…..XX and XY….

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, as you said, nothing about transgenders. He doesn’t define “male” and “female” and there’s certainly nothing about chromosomes in there.

          • Amos Moses

            The bible is not a science text………. So it would not say those things…… especially the so called modern English terms…. people invent words to avoid being told they are wrong…. God created men and women……. there is nothing outside of it………. except sin and confusion………. make all the convoluted arguments you want…. it wont change anything …

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No, I’m sure it won’t change anything for you. You’ve made it clear that you aren’t interested in hearing facts.

          • Amos Moses

            If you ever find any……..let me know…………. but i doubt you have any to begin with…….

            Who do you say Christ is?…………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            If you really want to learn about transgender people, you might start with the APA’s position paper. It’s full of answers, backed up research, and publicly available.

            Who do I say Christ is? I don’t know what that means, but I don’t think much about Christ on a daily basis because the subject has zero impact on my life.

          • Amos Moses

            Good to know your opinion on Christ………. the rest of what you write about then……… is of no interest to me because……… it lacks any verifiable truth……………

          • Amos Moses

            “For starters, there’s a “replication crisis” in science. This is particularly true in the field of experimental psychology, where far too many prestigious psychology studies simply can’t be reliably replicated.”
            ———————————————

            “In a 2011 survey of 2,000 research psychologists, over half admitted to selectively reporting those experiments that gave the result they were after. The survey also concluded that around 10 percent of research psychologists have engaged in outright falsification of data, and more than half have engaged in “less brazen but still fraudulent behavior such as reporting that a result was statistically significant when it was not, or deciding between two different data analysis techniques after looking at the results of each and choosing the more favorable.”

            Then there’s everything in between human error and outright fraud: rounding out numbers the way that looks better, checking a result less thoroughly when it comes out the way you like, and so forth.”

            “Still, shouldn’t the mechanism of independent checking and peer review mean the wheat, eventually, will be sorted from the chaff?

            Well, maybe not. There’s actually good reason to believe the exact opposite is happening.

            The peer review process doesn’t work. Most observers of science guffaw at the so-called “Sokal affair,” where a physicist named Alan Sokal submitted a gibberish paper to an obscure social studies journal, which accepted it. Less famous is a similar hoodwinking of the very prestigious British Medical Journal, to which a paper with eight major errors was submitted. Not a single one of the 221 scientists who reviewed the paper caught all the errors in it, and only 30 percent of reviewers recommended that the paper be rejected. Amazingly, the reviewers who were warned that they were in a study and that the paper might have problems with it found no more flaws than the ones who were in the dark.”

          • Amos Moses

            “6 Reasons Why Most Scientific Research is Fake, False or Fraudulent”

            wakingtimes. Remove this space com/2016/04/21/6-reasons-why-most-scientific-research-is-fake/

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Well, aside from the fact that Waking Times appears to be a nutcase crank website (it cites Cracked as a source!?), let’s assume that what they say is true.

            Okay, so now we’ve established, for the moment, that something is not automatically true just because it’s written in a scientific journal. There could be flaws, bias, whatever.

            So, what are the flaws in, oh, pick a study on transgenderism. Any one. And critique it.

            No, don’t throw me more crank websites or arguments against “science” as a whole. Those aren’t useful or relevant. No peer reviewer ever earned a grant by saying “hurr durr, science isn’t reliable, so this study is false lol!” I mean ACTUALLY read it, critically, and with an eye toward any problems it may have.

            Yes, what I’m asking you to do is HARD. It’s work. I mean, graduate-level psychology-type work. Work I can’t do, by the way; I freely admit it’s beyond my skills. But it shouldn’t be a problem for you, because you believe that your knowledge of psychology is greater than that of the preeminent experts in the field.

            So what do you say? Are you up for this?

          • Amos Moses

            “So, what are the flaws in, oh, pick a study on transgenderism.”

            It is all fallacious… it cannot be science….. it is all subjective “feelings”…. by definition…. NOT science…….. unless one thinks a person is just a mixed bag of blood and electro-chemical processes and that men have no control over who and what they are…… which is also fallacious…………

            “I was born this way”….. is just garbage reasoning for “my feelings” are the only thing that is important……….. Hey……. i was born the way i am……. a christian with a sound mind…… so who are any of them to tell us that we are wrong and they are right if that is all it is………….. It is NOT!………

          • Bob Johnson

            Subjective “feeling” can most certainly be scientific – check out McMasters University’s Department of Psychology, Neuroscience & Behaviour

            And yes, your feelings about being a christian with a sound mind are not wrong, and yes they can be tested for accuracy.

            Personally, I’d say yes you are a Christian although you do disagree with the Pope on several issues. And your mind is sound, at least to the point of being able to use a computer and response to input. Of course, many more tests could be run to fine tune the hypothesis.

          • Amos Moses

            Science…. is Objective….. not subjective…. so by definition…… subjective “feelings” are most definitely NOT science…….. you cannot perform a repeatable experiment…. based on “feelings”………. so…. again… NOT science….. by definition…………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            It’s “all fallacious?” So then, a few posts ago, when you were trumpeting the American College of Pediatricians’ position as “scientific” was that fallacious too?

          • Amos Moses

            No, because it lines up with scripture, science, and common sense…………. just because a scientist says it………. does not make it science……….. and peer review only costs about $500 and you can get pretty much any nonsense published….

          • Ambulance Chaser

            So, science is great and we should all believe science, as long as it’s science that supports what you want to believe. Otherwise, it’s fake.

            Got it.

          • Amos Moses

            Very good……… because that is exactly what many “scientists” are doing today ….. they have “a Priori” removed certain conclusions based on nothing but their biases and beliefs…. and that belief is “materialism”……… so that even if all the evidence points to anything outside “materialism” ……………. it is “a Priori” dismissed as being the correct answer………………….

            Dr Scott Todd, an immunologist at Kansas State University
            “Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.”

            The prominent evolutionary biologist Richard Lewontin
            “We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”

            So DESPITE the claim of an “Open Mind” and “Following the Evidence”……….they have clearly stated that they…. and a vast majority of “scientists” …….WILL NOT follow the evidence……………… So anything they have to say………… IS NOT SCIENCE……………….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Try looking up that Lewontin quote from somewhere besides AiG. Or wherever it was you got that “quote mine” job from. It’s not the whole quote, and completely misses the point he was making. The “patent absurdity” he was talking about was how it’s often true that many of the facts proven by science seem counter-intuitive. (he was talking about in astronomy in particular there)

            evolutionwiki (dot) org/wiki/Lewontin_on_materialism

          • Amos Moses

            Q: What do you call 25 attorneys buried up to their chins in cement?

            A: Not enough cement.

          • Amos Moses

            “Again, the Trans women are far far safer in the women’s restroom, and no one in the women’s room is at any significant increased risk because of it.”

            Until an incident, like the one above, and it will not be the last, happens, and we said it would happen,,,, AND IT HAS………….. so FAIL………..

          • Guest

            this case has nothing to do with transgender people in a state with no transgender protections.

            keep talking so we can all see the depths of your ‘knowledge’.

          • Amos Moses

            FAIL……….

          • gogo0

            the bathroom bills wont stop lesbians or trans that are indistinguishable from women who are allowed in the women’s room from doing this, nor will it stop men with ill intent from going into women’s restrooms. politicians are spending their time on this useless exercise because it makes their voters all frothy around the mouth and gives them something, as ineffective as it is, to rally around in an election season.

          • Amos Moses

            We have given permission to any man to enter……..no pretense of anything…… we have crossed a line in now saying “Hey, there is no line any longer”………. and you corrupted idea, your corrupted mind……..cannot conceive the wrong that is being done in the name of “TOLERANCE”……………

          • gogo0

            thats neat, but neither tolerance or intolerance wont stop lesbians or trans that are indistinguishable from women who are allowed in the women’s room from doing this, nor will it stop men with ill intent from going into women’s restrooms.

          • Amos Moses

            “lesbians or trans that are indistinguishable from women who are allowed in the women’s room from doing”

            Then why don’t they JUST SHUT UP AND PEE…………………….

          • gogo0

            wow, so we agree on something.
            problem solved if everyone could just shut up and pee

          • Amos Moses

            Because the homosexuals, lesbians and trannys…………CAN’T……….. and they want to pursue their depravity to every corner they can find……… so……….NO……

          • Ana

            Common since says to protect women and girls from sexual predators. These trans people are predators and dangerous.

          • Guest

            yeah, those darn Samaritans.

          • Amos Moses

            Paranoia….. or healthy fear of bodily harm by a person who is where they OUGHT NOT TO BE………

          • Guest

            yeah the Jews of biblical times felt the same about Samaritans.

            why take chances, right?

          • Amos Moses

            So the guy in the stall ………..snapping pictures of a child……. in a ladies bathroom…. was the guy on the side of the road with his head bashed in? …… Is that the comparison you are trying to make……….REALLY?

            Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

            Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

            Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            If they’re obeying the law, how are they not supposed to be there?

          • Amos Moses

            See………….exactly what i am talking about…….broken thinking………broken reasoning…… JUST PLAIN BROKEN……….

          • acontraryview

            Yeah! Like back in the good old days when there were “whites only” bathrooms, cause those coloreds were all bad people who wanted to harm white people.

          • Amos Moses

            See……still trying to equate race with depravity………………LOSER argument……………

          • acontraryview

            The rational is the same. Some men want to harm women or children. There have been instances of men harming women. Therefore, it makes sense to ensure that no man is able to enter a woman’s restroom.

            Some colored people want to harm white people. There have been instances of colored people harming white people. Therefore, it makes sense that we would keep all colored people out of restrooms with white people.

            Please tell me how those two lines of reasoning are not equal.

          • Amos Moses

            no, there is no “rational” thought there………. just a depraved thought……. and an insulting one to people of other races…..especially blacks………….. to equate them with depravity……. so………….NO…………..

          • acontraryview

            So you can’t explain how those two things are different. Got it. Thanks.

          • Amos Moses

            No, you cant explain how there is any common area between race and depravity……………… and you insult people of different races….especially blacks…. by conflating their race…with DEPRAVITY….. so no “rational” thought on your part………….

          • Bob Johnson

            “…there is no ‘rational’ thought there.”
            So Alan Turing never had a rational thought?

          • Amos Moses

            i do not see that name in the conversation……….. so……..what?

          • Dennis Stewart

            Being black or white is genetic. Being a pervert is a choice. Perverts are convolutionists. They lack logic, reason and common sense. They thrive on being pampered. Their powers of cogent and credible discernment no longer exist or such powers have been compromised into atrophy. Any one who even in the most minute way helps perverts and deviants to pervert and deviate is worse than the perverts and the deviants themselves because they condone picking the fly chit out of the pepper as justification.

          • acontraryview

            Did you have a point?

          • Dennis Stewart

            Do you understand English? Perversion isn’t genetic.

          • acontraryview

            Was that your point? That perversion isn’t genetic? If so, what is your point in making that statement? Are you suggesting that as long as the reason for something is genetic we shouldn’t be worried about a person harming someone else?

          • Dennis Stewart

            Perversion isn’t genetic. Even if it was it would be unacceptable and even more dangerous and deadly in order tom protect the vital many from the trivial few.

          • acontraryview

            What would be considered “perverse” would be a matter of opinion.

          • Dennis Stewart

            Feelings and opinions aren’t always based on facts. When they aren’t, they are value subtracting not value adding.
            Here are just a few value adding facts based on the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary Tenth Edition containing 1,553 pages.

            PERVERT is defined as: “to cause to turn aside or away from what is good or true or morally right: CORRUPT to cause to turn aside or away from what is generally done or accepted: MISDIRECT to divert to a wrong end purpose: MISUSE to twist the meaning or sense of: MISINTERPRET”

            PERVERSE is defined as: “turning away from what is right or good: CORRUPT improper; incorrect; obstinate in opposing what is right, reasonable or accepted: WRONGHEADED arising from or indicative of stubbornness or obstinacy.”

            PERVERSION is defined as: “the action of perverting: the condition of being perverted: a perverted form esp. an aberrant sexual practice esp. when habitual and preferred to normal coitus.”

            PERVERSIVE is defined as: “that perverts or tends to pervert: arising from or indicative of perversion”.

            PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY is defined as: “an emotionally and behaviorally disordered state characterized by clear perception of reality except for the individual’s social and moral obligation and often by the pursuit of immediate personal gratification in criminal acts, drug addiction, or sexual perversion.”

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yeah, I was kind of wondering what the deal was with that “girl killed in a bathroom story.” That one not only didn’t involve trans people, it didn’t even involve men.

            But I think you’ve hit the nail on the head: CNN wants people to be afraid in bathrooms.

          • Amos Moses

            “I see no evidence whatsoever that this incident had anything to do with transgender people or gender dysphoria issues at all.”

            Then you must be blind……………..

          • gizmo23

            The next time I read a story that a minister molested someone I’ll know all ministers are encouraged to do it

          • Amos Moses

            Ministers are not allowed to molest children… never have been…… although with the current level of TOLERANCE, you may see more…… and PEDOPHILIA legalized….does not alter the fact that this happened due to TOLERANCE of DEPRAVITY……… and it is only going to get worse….. i pray for your children that they do not fall prey to a similar PREDATOR that we are allowing in to the opposite sexes bathroom……..

          • ComeOnPeople!

            What children? At the rate we are going there will be none. Men with men… no children. Women with women… no children. Men who want to be women can’t produce children. Women who want to be men … no children. It’s the new population control.

          • Tyra Chrisman

            Please explain? That was so far left. I just need to know how you made that connection. Please!

            The issue is that the LGBT organization have pushed this bathroom issue so much that normal thinking people are afraid to speak up. So the employees said he had been in there for about an hour. So I assume that they saw him enter but was to afraid to stop him for fear of being hauled into court and labeled a bigot.

            LGBT uses the face of the innocent little boy who wants to be a girl but is forced to live like what he is. No one considers those who are part of the LGBT community who prey on young children. And let me stop you before I am treated like I don’t know what I am talking about. I have grown up around all kinds of people and had to threaten my brother that if I found out he was targeting underaged boys, I would come after him myself. Or the family friend who often showed up at the teen club, as he said when asked what he was doing there, “Girl, I’m looking for me some little boys”. He was 30+. And another bother of mine that was turned out by this older man who gave him AIDS and broke his heart. Or my uncle who was raped by this older guy and turned out.

            Am I saying all homosexuals are rapist? No. But they all are not angels either. They are what I like to call human. So to give all humans the right to choose which bathroom to use based off of their feelings, clothing choice, or desire on any given day is reckless at the least. So, no I don’t trust criminals to obey the spirit of the law when they cannot even obey the ones spelled out. And none of us know who among us are the criminals. We all can look like what we are not.

          • gizmo23

            You are and have used the same bathroom as transgendered people for years. You are tagging entire groups of people because of the actions of a few. The same that some people will say ” all Christians hate black people, just look at the kkk”, which is wrong. These laws are an atempt to hurt gay people nothing more. These states are upset about gay marriage and are just taking revenge.
            Hopefully these states will be so hurt financially they will resind these ignorant laws

          • Tyra Chrisman

            Still don’t see how you made this or the last connection. And trust me, I do want to understand.

            “You are and have used the same bathroom….” If a man who looks like a woman, used the same public restroom as I have or was using at the time, I did not know nor did I care because I did not know. Now, in my private life, I have used home bathrooms that had been used by transgenders. But not at the same time. My point is that this does not make for a good argument as the issue is not about someone who looks like a woman or girl using the women’s restrooms.

            “Tagging an entire group of people…” I don’t agree. The issue here is due to these laws and media hype concerning this issue paralyzing these employees to the point they watched while a man went into and stayed in the women’s bathroom for over an hour and said nothing to correct the situation. This was more likely for fear of being sued or losing their job for discrimination.

            “…All Christians hate black…” This too is incorrect and something new that has really been pushed by lgbt. We Christians are their biggest opponents. So we are demonized for our beliefs to try to make it seem like we are just like the kkk in our belief system.

            However, history proves this mindset to be incorrect. There were those who claimed to be Christians who missed used the Bible to push their agenda of lies and greed. But it was Christians of all races who fought to end slavery. Yes, many white Christians marched with Martin Luther King, got blasted with fire hoses, bitten by dogs, beaten by police, hung from trees, spit on and the like. Why do you think the phrase “nigger lover” was made up?

            For many who were Christians and white who read the Bible and knew they could not stand by and allow a whole race of people to be murdered, raped, tortured, and held down. Even if it meant their life and the lives of their family.

            The LGBT try to equate the Black struggle with their gay agenda. But it is not the same. Not even close. Now, I don’t know every homosexual person. But the ones I do know have high positions, a college education, own property, own and operate businesses, have families, don’t have restrictions on their moving about freely nor their free speech. Have some been teased and even experienced violence because of their lifestyle choices? Yes. But that is not unique to homosexuals but to mankind. I had to fight my way through school just because I am a beautiful, short, intelligent, black, light skinned Christian woman. I have been told that I think I am all that and called white girl, shorty, the b-word, hollier-than-thou. Many of these name was just because I was stayed to myself and due to my intellect. Was it fair? No. But this is life.

            “These States are just upset…” I feel you have misjudged this also. I will speak for myself on this one. I know a little bit about sin and mankind. Went given a chance, evil will find every opportunity to have its way. It can never be satisfied. It always wants more. If this law becomes the law of the land, how will we know the difference between those who just want to pee and those with a different, criminal agenda? You cannot, no one can but GOD. You hear of testimony after testimony of people saying that the guy/gal next door was such a wonderful person. It was not until many people lost their lives or were raped or tortured that the law found out it was that community person who was so helpful to everyone.

            And we are missing the greater issue. It is the women’s restroom and locker rooms in question. We have the right to say no to someone of the opposite sex invading our restroom. No we don’t want to be exposed to some stranger of the opposite sex, nor do we want to see them. So, let’s take the locker rooms for instance. If you are a male, living as a woman but have not had the complete surgery; you expose your genitals to all the little girls and woman in that shower area. And maybe gym has changed since I was in school but we were completely nude taking open showers. I did not even want to expose myself to the other girl let alone a guy with guy plumbing. I felt embarrassed, exposed and uncovered. And thus is why many young people hate gym. Not you want to through someone of the opposite sex in there? And these states who passed the bathroom law says once a transgender person completes the surgery and has their birth certificate changed, they may used the bathroom of the gender that is on their birth certificate. But in the meantime, they can use the unisex restrooms if they feel uncomfortable using the bathroom that is currently on their birth certificate but they don’t identify with. That to me is more than them compromising. As full as the women’s restrooms are and we already have to wait in line as it is, they get their own facility.

            The lgbt say they only want fair treatment. But this is a lie. They want special treatment. Heterosexuals can be told by their pastor that they will not marry them simply because they have concerns about their lifestyle, their marriage is unBiblical, concerns about their level of commitment, the couple is not compleing the premarrital work like they should or even because they don’t feel they are ready. Homosexual marriage does not line up with out faith but the law want to force us to do for them what we won’t even do for heterosexuals.

            Sorry this was so long.

          • Bob Johnson

            Yes, it is a long post, which I find most interesting. I will try to respond in several post, starting with your conclusion, your next to final paragraph.

            Marriage has two components, a spiritual union and a secular union (i.e. legal and financial). No one has ever argued that a rabbi must marry a Catholic or a priest must marry a jewish couple. Your priest is free to say no to both heterosexual couples and homosexual couples based on not approving of their lifestyle.

            However, the government operated courthouse is not free to make selections on any basis other than the law. That is, the courthouse can refuse if the people are under age or currently married or are blood relatives. However, the county clerk can not refuse to marry a couple based on personal, even deeply held beliefs. This happened in the USA in the 1960’s when clerks refused inter-racial marriages, including Mexican (Spanish descent) to Anglos (English descent). Today same-sex marriage is legal – priests and rabbis are free to decline to perform the service; the state must fulfill its role.

          • Bob Johnson

            “However, history proves this mindset to be incorrect. There were those who claimed…”

            This becomes the no true Scotsman fallacy. Priests who supported slavery and later segregation from the pulpit are no longer Christians? Sermons decrying the evils of allowing women to vote are myth? Yes, history looks back on these issues and has difficulty. The question now is how will history view our current situation? Christianity in the 1800s sided with both the slave owners and the abolitionist. Today some churches are xenophobic others are inclusive. Only history will tell who were the true Christians.

          • Bob Johnson

            “The LGBT try to equate the Black struggle”

            Well maybe – many groups have struggles in society. That is why the Civil Rights Act of 1964 keeps adding new groups (including religion, veterans, and sexual orientation) every few years. Yes, all of these groups have individuals with success stories. Does having a black president mean that the folks in Ferguson don’t have valid complaints? Does the fact that women can now vote, go to college, and own property mean they no longer have unique problems in our society? In a cosmopolitan society, in a country which has for most of its history welcomed people of all nationalities, religions, cultures there will be conflict. Our government was devised such that the unloved minorities are not overrun by mob rule. Questions of who’s rights should prevail and where a just solution lies becomes a matter of laws. And when state houses pass laws which conflict with other laws and constitutions, it is the courts who must step in.

          • Bob Johnson

            “And we are missing the greater issue. It is the women’s restroom and locker rooms in question…”

            This argument makes the assumption that there is only two possible outcomes. That sex is binary and that gender does not exist. This is a view that has existed for many millennia and is found in many religious texts. However, it is not the understanding of current biology and sociology. The world is much more complex than previously believed. Germ Theory has replaced humors and demons. Cosmology has replace celestial spheres.

            When I was growing up, the activities of people in other part of the country, let alone the world at large was unknown. Only a brief glimpse on the nightly news or Life magazine showed the outside world. So while these problems were real they were hidden from our view.

            Sex and gender are two areas that have undergone radical change as DNA research, behavioral research, and biochemistry (hormones, et al) have shown a much more complex world.

            In the past many of these people would have been locked in insane asylums or tortured like Alan Turing. So the question for today is what do we do with the estimated 700,000 transgender Americans?

          • Tyra Chrisman

            I am so sorry that I am just getting time to reply. I really like your responses. It is nice to find someone who is able to debate some things we may disagree with without attacking the person but trying to understand the issue. You blessed me, truly. Thank you.

            “Sex and gender are two areas that have undergone radical change as DNA research, behavioral research, and biochemistry (hormones, et al) have shown a much more complex world.”

            I will begin here. I feel this idea that nothing is fixed and everything is fluid is incorrect and even dangerous. There are fixed things in this world and no matter how hard man works to prove that wrong, it just is. One of those being truth and another being gender. Now the transgender community have come a long way from when I was growing up. Now, it is very hard to recognize someone who has chosen to live life as the opposite sex. However, as much as I may try to alter my outward appearance, the internal workings are still the same. Same sex couples who desire to reproduce are forced to do so by way of normal means. This tells me that gender is not what you make it nor what you desire it to be and truth still prevails.

            Although we attempt to legislate morality, just because something is legal does not point to the moral fiber of the law. There have been many laws passed that I as a black, Christian, middle classed woman have found myself standing against. Like here. I do not like public restrooms. I hate going into a woman’s bathroom and locker room with other females. What I do in those places is not for the eyes of strangers. I remember being in middle school after gym class and dreading the locker room setting. They had some private stalls but those were usually taken. And although I had nothing by societies standard, to be ashamed of, I wanted to keep the private, private. I recall my friend who was a late bloomer being teased and how I hurt for her. Coming out in defense of her or anyone always set others eyes on you. But it is the price you pay for doing what is right.

            My point is, people being kept from entering a particular restroom because their equipment does not match that of those who are using it is not discrimination. Especially when those with the same equipment is accommodated in a restroom that they are allowed access to. These facilities are of the same standard and quality but they choose to enter the one they are not allowed to enter. And yes, I know that some transgenders have broken the law and have been using the one of their choice anyway. But I am not aware and having the law on our side when ever them or any other male invades our space is a comfort.

            And because transgender people are still human, they like everyone else possess the ability to do evil. This guy was not transgender. But due to the uproar of legal issues and public shaming, these employees who would have stopped him in the past or at least went and told someone, was paralyzed by fear. And they sat and watched him enter into the restroom, stay for an hour, as a young girl entered in and no one said anything. It may be argued that this was a man not a transgender man so the two are not linked. However, that would be completely untrue. The atmosphere over this debate and others and the consequences endured by those opposing this position have rendered many silent.

            The human mind can be a very scary place. With it being capable of such great and loving things, it is also a places for the deepest darkest areas that a human being can sink to. Human beings. Not just heterosexuals, non transgenders but those of the LGBT community as well.

            Now, with the overcrowding of woman’s restrooms and locker rooms as to date, I say, produce single stall restrooms. Then I will finally have a place to go and use it in peace. The pushing of this to be a law is a violation of the rights of all. It is discrimination against those who are less able to defend ourselves against those who are mainly biologically stronger than those born female. I grew up having to fight boys off of me. I know that because gender is fixed and no amount of hormones taken will alter the physical strength that a male has over a female, this push by the LGBT community is even more upsurd. And the ones who will be left to pay for it will be us females.

            “Well maybe – many groups have struggles in society.”

            Many groups do have struggles. I don’t deny that. Heck, we all have our struggles, some more than others. But don’t take away my protection under the law to make someone else feel better about who they have decided to be. One’s protection and safety is more vitally important than someone’s feelings. Especially when there are other ways to meet both the safety aspect and the emotional side of it.

            Also, I don’t deny everyone has their own struggle, but what I hate and abhor are people who belittle the fight, struggle, pain, devastation and murder of my ancestors and current life struggles with a movement that does not even compare. Even my struggles today as a black woman can not be compared to what my ancestors endured. So, when I hear someone say that I should understand the LGBT struggle because I am black. Not the same even on that level. Still today blacks are profiled, judged, murdered, kept from employment and attacked and suffer just for being black. Black, what others can see, what we cannot hide or even change. You know, the color of our skin, texture of our hair, our facial feature…all things that I love. But propaganda was performed so well that it still affects us all today. And I mean all, black, white, and others. This is why the LGBT movement has gotten so far because so many who don’t agree shut up about it or even support it for fear of coming down on the wrong side of history.

            Now compare all of that to your choice to share your bedroom experience or what is in your pants or under your skirt. Not the same. Not to mention the economic disparity that was created and still exist. You have a better opportunity of rising to the top as a gay white male then as a straight black man. And although being in jail may cause some people who never identified with the homosexual lifestyle to act out those behaviors while incarcerated, you still find more black male behind bars just for being black than homosexuals for being homosexual, here in the USA. And I know that LGBT people have been beaten up, teased and treated like the disease of society but this does not equate to the black experience, far from it.

            “This becomes the no true Scotsman fallacy. Priests who supported slavery and later segregation from the pulpit are no longer Christians? Sermons decrying the evils of allowing women to vote are myth?”

            This is my position: you will know them by the fruit they bare. One of the biggest fights I fight as a Christian is to educate other Christians on what their Word says and giving them the tools to live that out. Standing in the forest does not make me a tree any more than standing in a church makes me a Christian. But some who claim JESUS today will be saddened to know that HE does not claim them. There are whole churches who are excepting all kinds of behavior that GOD has strictly forbidden. But they follow what the world says rather than the Word of the GOD they claim to serve. This is what happened during slavery when a few got greedy and ran out of those to successfully enslave. They then turned their eyes on the blacks in their own community and began the process of dehumanization of a whole race. Then they linked the Bible to it to give it some teeth. Then people quote things that are either misinterpreted or not even in the Bible, just like they do today. Why? To support what they want to do. People these days fear common sense, wisdom, truth, hard work, and rules. We want what we want regardless of who we have to destroy to obtain it. And not you, nor anyone in the LGBT community would be willing to ensure our safety and be legally liable for any violation extending from the implementation of this self identify bathroom and locker room usage movement. You cannot because we are dealing with humans who are once again capable of many things both good and evil.

            “Today same-sex marriage is legal – priests and rabbis are free to decline to perform the service; the state must fulfill its role.”

            You mentioned that no one is trying to make religious clergy perform marriages of homosexuals. Actually that is the aim of the LGBT community. In fact, if you get an education for counseling to serve at your church, there is a push that you cannot counsel against the lifestyle in your own church. Our church even had to move to clarifying our standard of marriage via the Bible to try and protect us from being forced to perform a homosexual marriage. There is also a push to punish churches by taking away their tax exempt status if we don’t comply with the court ruling. Between the ACLU and the LGBT, Christians continue to be the hunted because everything is for sale these days and that is a mindset that I as a Christian refuse to bow down to. So the very discrimination that the LGBT community rallies against is what they are pushing. Heck, we can’t even go to the bathroom.

            And the same thing that happened in the Holocaust, US Slavery, European Inquisitions, the Roman Empire and throughout history is gaining traction today as we speak. And it is happening worldwide. ISIS is doing their part to exterminate Christians all over the world because we refuse to give in and conform. South America, Africa and Asia is experiencing the same. And North America is getting more bold and blatant with their agenda.

            I as a Christian have stepped in to protect those underdogs who were being bullied and beat up on (and yes, this included homosexuals), all of my life. There is just something that rises up in me when others are being mistreated. I wonder how many will separate from the mob mentality long enough to say no, not only will I not just participate but I will give my life to make a change when it is a Christian being dragged to the gas chambers just for being a Christian.

            I have had to hold and comfort my 19 year old son who tried to walk away from his faith because of the increased hatred and difficulty of being different. When he realized that he could not unknown and unsee what he know to be true, he now is stronger in his faith than he has ever been. But now he also knows that he may lose his life for his faith. And wonder if it would be fair to bring a child into this world just to subject them to the same fate. He knows that being the protector of his family (once he gets one) means standing up against foreseeable problems like this. This terrifies him but he is so filled with truth, he can’t remain silent on the issues. He is more afraid not to speak up then keeping silent to fulfill his dreams of a family.

            I see and understand the pain that some of the LGBT community suffers and deal with. My heart goes out to many of them. My heart also hurts and goes out to those with HIV/AIDS but I will not support laws that make it easier for people to get the disease. And no, I am not saying that this bathroom law will change someone into being homosexual. But that it is just as ridiculous to try and comfort someone by endangering someone else.

            And speaking of HIV/AIDS, what is so evil is that no one wants to inform the LGBT community that this disease is taking out gay men at an alarming rate. Their life span is half that of a heterosexual male. And the same with homosexual females. But the behavior is co signed and even encouraged inspite of these and many results. Now homosexual teen males are the fastest growing group to die from this disease. It use to be black females that use to really struggle with this but we continued to preach against the behaviors that were causing this disease to ravish our communities and now black women with this disease has decreased by 21%. Not because we co signed and supported the behaviors. But because we stuck to our guns of abstinence, safe sex, education and GOD.

            But this disease is still considered a homosexual disease as thousands of homosexuals, especially men who have sex with men, die each year. We could say the same for being Black and male. But this is something that cannot be changed as we are born our race, just as we are born our gender. And their are those who have tried to alter their blackness to no avail. Because having certain traits are more than just skin deep.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Sin is sin regardless of a position or gender. Anyone who is in a position of authority and abuses those in their care is a whole knew topic.

          • Slidellman4life

            Non-sequitur.

          • gizmo23

            It’s exactly the same thing. Tagging the entire group because of the actions of a few

          • Slidellman4life

            This has nothing to do with ministers. It has to do with why men should never be allowed in the ladies’ restroom, and sickos like you that do not care if little girls are victimized by perverts like this as long as a man in a dress can pee next to her.

            Have you no sense of decency, at long last? Have you no sense of decency?

          • Amos Moses

            Mat 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

            Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

            Luke 17:2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

          • gizmo23

            A lot of ministers of drowning

          • Amos Moses

            Sure enough……… but then…….. they were never really ministers………… they were “ministers”…………………..

        • ComeOnPeople!

          He has permission if Transgender males do. All males allowed or it’s picking one male group over the other.

          • gizmo23

            “There is no information at this time as to why Shoemaker was in the women’s restroom and not the men’s lavatory.”
            That’s easy, to commit a sexual crime

          • Michael C

            Discriminating on the basis of sex or gender identity for sex-segregated facilities is legal.

            It seems you’re making things up.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            His sex is male and a Transgenders sex is male. Therefore if one is allowed so to is the other.

          • Michael C

            …if one is allowed so to is the other.

            Nope. This isn’t how it works here in the real world.

          • Ana

            Exactly and it’s not fair to women. I guess women just need to get use to sexual assault. Soon it will be legal to sexually assault a woman. After all, men can’t help who they are.

          • Ana

            This kind of stuff is going to be normal now. I guess women will just have to get use to being photographed naked, being sexually assaulted and sexually harassed and groped. No more privacy for women. The government only cares about men and men’s rights. I don’t even know what to think. I am very saddened that my rights to privacy are going away. I’m scared and shocked that I have no more rights as a woman. I never thought that I would be forced to live in a world where men can do whatever they want to me and other women and not give a shit.

        • Ana

          He did it because men are now allowed to enter women’s facilities. This is what happens when the law says that men are now allowed to enter women’s private areas.

          • Michael C

            Nope. There’s no law in PA that says that men can use the women’s facilities.

          • Ana

            Trans men are allowed to use women’s facilities. This stuff happens because men are allowed to go in. Trans men get to go in so why not all men?

          • Michael C

            There is no state law in Pennsylvania that protects gay and transgender people from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations.

            This means that it is 100% legal for a business to fire an employee because they’re gay or for a property management company to refuse to rent an apartment to a person because he’s transgender or for a store or restaurant to refuse service to a customer just because they’re gay.

            It also means that a business can refuse to allow a transgender person to use their restrooms.

            The guy in this article had no right to be in the ladies room.

            Even if PA protected gay and trans citizens from discrimination, the guy in this article would still have had no right to be in the ladies room.

      • lorac odraned

        and a result of liberals, like the clown who sometimes lives in the White House, who think they know more than God. We are the sex God made us. What’s next, somebody might feel like or identify as a dog. Does that mean we should put fire hydrants in public restrooms? If I could solve this stupidity, I would remove ALL public restrooms from stores, restaurants etc. Use your own potty at home!

    • ComeOnPeople!

      Oh my are you discriminating against one people group ! A male who says he’s a male can’t enter a ladies restroom but a male who says he’s a female can. Shame shame! When you allow one type of male, you must allow all. Therefore leave restrooms as they always have been… designated male or female.

      • gizmo23

        You use the same bathroom as transgendered people use all the time. Are we going to have bathroom police checking everyone. This issue is ridiculous

        • ComeOnPeople!

          If they are in there then it is not by law. If you pass a law stating males who identify as women are by law allowed in a ladies restroom, then you must allow ALL males. To pick one male group over another in making a law is to discriminate. A male who says he’s a female wants to be in a ladies bathroom because he identifies himself as a female and a male who knows he’s a male wants to enter the ladies room because he identifies with women. Both are types of males and by law … if it passes, must be allowed.

          • Guest

            You realize this happened in a place without a recognized civil right to be transgender, right? What this case illustrates is that such laws aren’t necessary – anyone of any sex acting illegally is just as chargeable..

          • gizmo23

            You have no understading of the law

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Oh really them please do explain law to me.

          • gizmo23

            There is no effort to pass laws allowing transgendered people to use any bathroom. They can do that now. To the best of my knowledge There were no laws stopping them until these silly laws came about. These “bathroom” laws are only trying to hurt a group of people and the backlash has already begun
            Civil rights laws are very specific in regards to hiring, public accommodation, and service. They list protected groups, not everyone. I can say I won’t hire anyone with long hair or a tattoo, perfectly legal. Likewise in areas that don’t protect gays I can say “you look gay so I’m not renting a hotel room to you,” again perfectly legal. Discrimination is allowed in many cases.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            First off the transgender people were in fact trying to replace all of societies known norms by pushing new laws and the states are trying to get laws in place that don’t allow the insanity to continue. If transgender and gays were not pushing the buttons all would be left as it has been. Transgender people would continue to use restroom just like they have been . The problem came about not because of people trying to keep transgenders out of bathrooms but because of transgender pushing for laws that will protect only themselves and harm others, that will discriminate against others but favor themselves.

      • Michael C

        Despite the fact that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes sex (male/female) as a protected characteristic, sex-segregated facilities do not need to be available to both sexes equally.

        Allowing transgender people to use the facilities that match their gender identity and expression does not mean that these facilities need to be available to both sexes equally.

        • Slidellman4life

          Dude, you need to wake the bleep up.

          Women by and large do not wish to share the public restroom with a man in a dress. There is a medium people all people should be happy with, and that is the single use restroom. But those so-called transgendered people are insisting they be able to go into restrooms that would be otherwise by occupied by people other than their biological sex, and that bothers me, and I am not even a woman.

          To just dismiss or ignore the legitimate concerns of women and children to appease a very small number of the US population is something I find very disturbing and it quite frankly makes me question the sanity of those who defend this.

          • Guest

            And that you call these people ‘a man in a dress’ shows you don’t understand the issue.

            And again, where are the ‘legitimate’ concerns? Are you saying someone misbehaving, no matter their sex or dress, couldn’t be charged with an illegal act? This case proves that isn’t true.

          • Slidellman4life

            And that you call these people ‘a man in a dress’ shows you don’t understand the issue.

            “TORONTO – A sexual predator who falsely claimed to be transgender and preyed on women at two Toronto shelters was jailed indefinitely on Wednesday.

            Justice John McMahon declared Christopher Hambrook — who claimed to be a transgender woman named Jessica — was a dangerous offender.”

            Predator who claimed to be transgender declared dangerous offender, Sam Pazzano, Toronto Sun, February 26, 2014.

            You may shut up, now.

          • Michael C

            Okay, let’s talk about the comfort and safety of women.

            Which bathroom should Michael Hughes (#WeJustNeedToPee) and Aydian Dowling use?

            If you don’t know who they are, please google them.

          • Slidellman4life

            I do not care who they are. Either you care for the privacy and safety of women and children or you don’t. The right of a ten-year-old to use the bathroom without having to fear someone putting their cellphone over the door to film them going to the bathroom is not negotiable.

            If you care to argue otherwise, then there is a problem, and it is not with me.

          • Michael C

            Please google them and tell me which public bathroom you think they should use.

          • Slidellman4life

            I think I have already made it clear I will not. I told you what the issue was. Do I have to repeat myself or will you confess you do not care what happens to women and children as long as mentally ill people are appeased?

            What the heck is the matter with you?

          • Michael C

            I do absolutely care about the comfort and safety of women.

            That is why I asked you to google Michael Hughes and Aydian Dowling.

            You don’t even care enough about women and children to google two names and tell me what public washroom you think they should be using?

          • Slidellman4life

            I do absolutely care about the comfort and safety of women.

            And you cite two trans people, one of which is a “trans activist,” to prove it?

            Don’t even try to play games with me.

          • Michael C

            I’m asking a very, very simple question. It’s not a game.

            Why are you being so evasive? Why don’t you want to tell me which public restroom you think Michael Hughes and Aydian Dowling should use? Isn’t this directly related to the statements you’ve made about who should use what bathroom?

          • Slidellman4life

            Asked and answered. Drop it.

          • Michael C

            If you continue to reply to my simple question without actually providing a simple answer, I will continue asking it.

            If you wish to continue to evade my simple question, stop replying.

            Which public bathroom do you think Michael Hughes and Aydian Dowling should use?

          • Cady555

            Nope. But in NC they will now share the restroom with trans men with facial hair and male features.

    • Slidellman4life

      Passing a law to allow the opposite will give perverts like him the ability to enter the restroom with impunity, just as it did in Seattle.

      • Michael C

        nope.

        He still wouldn’t be allowed in the ladies’ room.

        …but as we can see here, that wouldn’t stop him.

        • Slidellman4life

          Yep. All he would have to do is put on a dress, like Christopher Hambrook.

          • Michael C

            You mean the guy that has been jailed indefinitely for committing crimes because what he did wasn’t legal?

          • Slidellman4life

            You mean the man that pretended to be transgendered so he could get into womens’ shelters, which you deliberately left out because facts get in the way of your depraved defense of this crap?

          • Michael C

            …and what he did was illegal just like what this guy did was illegal. We have laws against sexual assault and privacy invasion.

          • Slidellman4life

            What he did was pretend to be transgendered so he could have access to women’s shelters. Still can’t say it.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, he pretended to be transgendered. He wasn’t. Now he’s being punished.

          • Michael C

            No, I can say it. For decades, transgender people have been permitted to use the restroom fitting their gender identity. Never once has a man attempted to use the excuse that he is transgender in order to gain access to a women’s bathroom in order to commit a crime.

            One guy in Canada (with a criminal history of sexual predation) pretended to be transgender and was somehow granted access to a women’s shelter where he attempted to assault two vulnerable homeless women.

            This is the reason you think transgender people should use the wrong bathrooms? Because of this one guy in another country that one time?

            If a woman sexually assaulted another woman in a woman’s shelter, would you prohibit women from staying in women’s shelters?

          • Guest

            Okay, Michael, explain this to me, please: why does there have to be special laws about this in the US? Prior to this, what did transgender people do?

          • Michael C

            Prior to this, what did transgender people do?

            They were ostracized, shunned, marginalized, fired from their jobs, discriminated against, jailed, tortured under the guise of medicine, assaulted, murdered,…

          • Michael C

            …it’s still perfectly legal to deny transgender people housing, employment, and public accommodations in the vast majority of the United States.

          • Guest

            Based on what? (legally speaking)

          • Michael C

            In the U.S., we’ve selected certain characteristics to be protected from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations. Race, religion, national origin, veteran status, sex, disability, etc. to name a few

            Our laws state that if a person is discriminated against “on the basis” of one of these characteristics, that is deemed illegal.

            For example, if an Irish person applies for a job but is not hired because she does not meet the education requirements, that’s perfectly legal. If an Irish person applies for a job but is not hired because she’s Irish, that’s illegal.

            The federal government allows discrimination against gay and transgender people in employment, housing, and public accommodations. Some states have adopted local laws to prohibit such discrimination, but it remains legal in the vast majority of the U.S.

          • Guest

            Okay, thanks for the explanation.

          • Guest

            I’m referring specifically to bathroom use. For example, I don’t think we have a special law regarding this kind of thing in Canada. I assume transgendered people use the bathroom according to how they are dressed (men or women dressed as women use the woman’s bathroom, men or women dressed as men use the men’s bathroom). I’m wondering if that was common practice in the US?

          • Michael C

            There’s no federal law concerning who can use what bathroom in the private sector. State and local laws vary.

            Being that transgender people are not protected from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations, it’s perfectly legal for a business to refuse to allow a transgender person from using either bathroom.

          • Guest

            Okay, thanks. I was just wondering how this sort of thing worked in the past. I assumed people used the washroom according to how they were dressed and that it wasn’t an issue that had to be addressed by law. I only know 2 transgendered individuals and this issue has never come up. I never thought much about it before, to be frank.

    • gogo0

      i wonder why this article was even posted, it demonstrates that these bathroom laws are as useless in stopping sickos as the current laws.
      then again it looks like most commentators didnt read the article, or even the full headline, and feel this supports their stance

      • Michael C

        What’s even stranger is the article about the girl who was beaten to death in a bathroom. It’s as if someone on the editorial staff said “hey, articles about bathrooms get a lot of hits!”

  • Emmanuel

    I’m sure he felt like a woman before going in to the restroom.

    • ComeOnPeople!

      There are days one may feel like a lion but they should know better then to go into a lions cage. They are not a lion as much as they may feel like it and they don’t belong in a lions cage. But should they deny reality and enter, don’t blame the lions if they get upset. Ahaha

      • Emmanuel

        So if a dude goes in the restroom with my daughter and he feels like a woman, and this dad goes in and handle him like a lion, no arrest?

    • getstryker

      If the little girls Daddy was standing outside the door instead of her Mother . . . it’s likely that this guy may have ‘felt like a women’ but that he would probably ‘be one’ after Daddy got thru with him . . . these ‘incidents’ will continue and there will be a ‘backlash’ . . . it’s coming!

      • Dennis Stewart

        It’s called the PERVERT HUNTERS OF AMERICA.

      • Emmanuel

        I strongly agree. This dude would be eating from a tube for the rest of his life.

    • Dennis Stewart

      So if the pervert feels like a rapist, he can rape while pretending to be something he never was and can’t ever possibly be while lying his way into a female bathroom???

  • ComeOnPeople!

    To my point on all this restroom nonsense on the post!!! If you tell one group of males (a person with a penis) he can enter a ladies restroom then you are opening the door to all males or it’s discrimination. Leave it the way it always has been. Males (those with a penis) relieve themselves in a designated male restroom and females ( those with a vagina) relieve themselves in the ladies restroom. It’s really quite simple unless you are confused.

    • gizmo23

      So who is going to check sexes at the door

      • ComeOnPeople!

        There has never been a need to do so. A woman looks like a woman and has the anatomy of a woman. I’m sure men who have a problem identifying as a men , dress up as a women (which by the way, it’s easy to tell they are still a men) and have entered ladies restrooms in the past. Yet to make it law that one kind of male and only one kind, can now by law be in a ladies restroom is a discriminatory law. If you pass such a law … ALL MALES must be allowed in ladies restrooms.

        • Cady555

          Trans men look like men. They do not look like women. They will now be in the lady’s restroom. This is what you wanted. You’ve got it.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Oh but propaganda is teaching little boys that if they work real hard and take hormones and go to counseling , they can identify with a woman. NOPE sorry if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck … it’s a duck. Teach little boys the reality that one day they will grow facial hair, their voice will change and testosterone will kick in and they will become men. Nothing can change that and should they try to do so, they will never enjoy life as it was meant to be. They will never be able to procreate because of the hormone replacement that was given to them or God forbid … the mutilation of their male anatomy.

          • Cady555

            This isn’t propaganda. Trans men exist and they look like men. Trans women exist and they look like women.

            You may wish they didn’t exist, but that isn’t your choice. They exist.

            You may think they live sad, miserable lives, but that is their problem not yours.

            All you are being asked to do is mind your own business and let them mind theirs.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No see because I actually care about each individual , I won’t mind my own business. Look at statistics on the LGBT community and you will find that YES they are very sad miserable people. I won’t go into details because they are to massive. Look the stats up yourself and then tell me and others who actually care about mens souls to mind our own business. I’m sure the devil would love it if I did but sorry it’s a no go.

        • gizmo23

          You are incorrect

    • Michael C

      If you tell one group of males (a person with a penis) he can enter a ladies restroom then you are opening the door to all males or it’s discrimination.

      Are you basing this argument on some sort of legal understanding or precedent?

      If so, please share.

      • Amos Moses

        Geeee………how about the IDIOTIC “homosexual marriage” argument……. “love wins”…equality for everybody based on their perversion…….

        • Gott Mit Uns!

          There is nothing perverted about marriage.

          • Amos Moses

            Just “homosexual marriage” which is not a marriage………

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            Legal marriage is legal marriage.

          • Amos Moses

            Whose law?………..”legal” according to whom………….. You can label a sack of manure “Rose Petals”……….. does not make it so……………… does not change the truth……… or the smell…..

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            A sack of manure is a sack of manure. Rose petals are rose petals. Legal marriage is legal marriage. If you’re ever in the market for a divorce, you and your spouse can always go to your church instead of a court of law. Of course, your divorce won’t be legal, so good luck with that.

  • SFBruce

    There are two important facts to bear in mind:
    1. Quarryville, PA has no law, similar to the one passed in Charlotte, NC, which says trans individuals may use the restroom of their choice.
    2. There are no reports that Shoemaker is claiming he identifies as a woman, and that’s the reason he was in the restroom.

    • Slidellman4life

      Fact 3: Neither of the above two facts are relevant. He was in the bathroom to feed his perversion at the expense of a 10-year-old girl, and the idea passing laws to allow TGs access to public bathrooms assigned to people that are not their biological sex will keep such predators out has already been proven false.

      • Guest

        Which means it doesn’t matter what his dress or sex was, what he was doing was illegal regardless.

        • Amos Moses

          Right,,,but he felt he had permission to enter a womens bathroom to do it…. could have done it any number of places……… but no…… men may enter now…….. so he had a ready excuse if he was caught “just being there”……… i mean afterall,,,,, it is okay in other places in the US…….

          • Guest

            Which just goes to show that you can ‘rule’ your way out of this issue. The fact is anyone doing things like that can be arrested regardless of their apparent sex no matter what bathroom it is.

      • Ana

        So are women just supposed to be okay with sexual assault? Are we just supposed to accept men and their perverted ways as normal? Are we supposed to be forced to allow men to invade every aspect of our private lives? I don’t think so.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          No. Yes. No.

          • getstryker

            Ahhh, there it is . . . the sound a lawyer makes when his head travels quickly, to and fro, to a place where the sun don’t shine!

          • Amos Moses

            Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
            A: Only three. The rest are true stories.

            What do you call parachuting lawyers?
            . . . Skeet.

  • BarkingDawg

    Wait. He wasn’t dressed as a woman?

    There goes that meme.

    • Amos Moses

      No, just claimed he was “comfortable” with his feminine side that day…….that he wanted to use as an excuse…….to make child pornography…………/sarc

  • Cady555

    With the NC law lots pf people who look like this guy will be in ladies restrooms. Only most of them will be trans men minding their own business who would rather use the men’s room. But the law says trans men must use the ladies room. This means true creeps like this guy won’t stand out.

    Way to go. You just made everyone less safe.

    • Unionville

      Th NC law was enacted in response to the Charlotte “bathroom ordinance.” If transgenders blend so well, why is there a need for any such bathroom ordinances at all? These ordinances not only infringe on the privacy of women, it leaves them without the recourse of reporting obvious men in their restrooms and locker rooms. And gives men a ready excuse for their presence.

      • Jalapeno

        Okay..so..lets say that we make the law “you must go in the bathroom that correlates with your birth certificate”.

        What’s to stop a guy from walking in there and claiming that he was born a woman? He doesn’t even need to pretend to try to pass..he has a ready excuse.

        • Amos Moses

          Women complaining about it……..his being where he does not belong….. Hey, if you want to be butch….. BUTCH up and use the mens room…. or cross your legs and go home…… or do it in your pants……….. but no…… they cant just shut up and peeee………. they have to make a scene and complain they they are not allowed to pursue their depravity………..unfettered…..

          • Jalapeno

            ” they cant just shut up and peeee”

            Sure, if they can be in the bathroom that they feel comfortable in.

            Do you think most women would shut up and pee if they were forced to go into the mens bathroom?

          • Amos Moses

            Then let them be comfortable at a fire hydrant………………… Women are not forced to use the mens room…. they ARE BEING FORCED TO TOLERATE men in the womens room….

          • Jalapeno

            So…any woman who isn’t comfortable with someone who looks like a man being forced to use the womens bathroom with them should go pee at a hydrant?

            Interesting.

          • Amos Moses

            Other way around……….. let the person……….who looks like a man…….. GO ELSE WHERE….

          • Jalapeno

            So you expect them to not use the bathroom at all?

          • Amos Moses

            Let them pee on a fire hydrant……………. or use the mens room…. where if they are caught doing anything untoward……….then they can deal with the consequences of their conduct….. instead of picking on women……..

            And this is a WAR ON WOMEN………..make no mistake about it…… and that is ALL this is……… a satanic attack on the image bearers of God…. Imago Dei…. and the creators of life………. that these people cannot acknowledge that they despise……..

          • Jalapeno

            Oh..so they can use the mens room even if they were born a woman?

            Glad we agree.

        • Unionville

          —-“What’s to stop a guy from walking in there and claiming that he was born a woman?”—

          I’m confused by your response because I already addressed this in my original post. If you are saying a person who was born female but now looks like a man, as I said, there should be no need for the Charlotte “bathroom ordinance” at all for them. No one will be the wiser if that person uses the men’s room. If you’re talking about a biological man or a person who was born a man waltzing into a woman’s locker room, I can report him, or take other measures to get him out of where he does not belong.

          edit: With idiotic ordinances like Charlotte’s the biological man would have an excuse for being there. And my response to it is limited since he has the law saying he can be there if he “feels” he’s a woman today.

  • Tangent002

    And now comes the time where every crime that occurs in a public restroom will be emblazoned across the front page with the sub-title being, “See!”

  • Ana

    I will never be okay with men going into women’s restrooms. This is not fair to the female population. Men need to stay in men’s restrooms and women need to stay in women’s restrooms. These transgender people are sick in the head and they need to think of others besides themselves.

    • Michael C

      Would you and your young daughters like to share a bathroom with Michael Hughes (#WeJustNeedToPee) and Aydian Dowling?

    • Jalapeno

      I think it’s not fair for women to have to be in the bathroom with people who identify as a guy.

      • Ken Faivor

        But they are not one, never will be.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Science disagrees.

          • Ken Faivor

            Transgenderism is about as real as your cartoon avatar. Your plumbing at birth tells all, these are the facts of life.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            And which recognized psychological text supports that belief?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Because I’m tired of hearing “Identify” used wrongly let me leave you all with the Simple Definition of identify

            : to know and say who someone is or what something is
            ( A male is a male is a male… A female is a female is a female)

            : to find out who someone is or what something is
            ( If a person is naked and looks down they will find out what they are. Male or female)

            : to show who someone is or what something is
            ( If someone were to undress in front of others it would show other without question what they are. Male or female.

            As to the definition of Science… the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the PHYSICAL and NATURAL world through observation and experiment:

            True Science disproves transgender both in the Physical and the Natural world.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            OK, so I’m asking you to show me some of that “true science.”

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Show me any science that would say a man who thinks he is a woman … IS a woman. You can not find any but you will find in every text book of the study of human anatomy the clear definition of both what constitutes a person being a male or a female . A perverted society making up new words to cater to a select few, can not remove known definitions that define who are classified as men or who are classified as woman. That my friend is true science. Science studies the physical and the natural and then writes down what they find. The word you need to use is science fiction.

          • Renee’ Glover

            Get naked, look down. End of experiment.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Okay, so you’re basically saying that there is no neurological component to gender, is that right?

    • Ax2root

      Evil is never satisfied.

      Submit to the Lord RESIST the devil and he SHALL flee

  • Gena B

    Voyeurism….gee anyone see this coming?

    • Michael C

      Yup, I think this is the first time ever that a man has attempted to peep on women. Thanks, Obama.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        No but it is the first time ever that males might be allowed to do so via laws being put in place that may allow them into the ladies restroom .

        • Michael C

          No but it is the first time ever that males might be allowed…

          In parts of the country, transgender men and women have had the legal right to use the appropriate restroom for decades. This is not “the first time ever” anything.

          Allowing transgender people to use the appropriate restroom does not give men the right to peep on women in the stalls just as allowing women to use the women’s restroom doesn’t give them the right to peep on other women.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Key words VIA LAW. Yes Transgender men and women have used public restrooms but not VIA a LAW stating it is okay for them to be in a restroom that is not true to their anatomy . They entered the restroom that was not of their gender type via their own will not because of LAW. As to your last paragraph … this shows the logic of the far left.

          • Michael C

            Let me explain this to you as simply as I know how. It has been 100% legal in some places in the U.S. for transgender people to use the appropriate restrooms for DECADES. VIA a LAW.

            The Civil Rights Act of 1964 is a federal law that prohibits discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations on the basis of a number of characteristics (race, sex, religion, national origin, etc). Over time, new characteristics have been added to this list including things like disability and veteran status.

            Individual states have the ability to add new characteristics to their state laws to protect more people from discrimination. Some states have chosen to protect people from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations on the basis of sexual orientation. According to most states and the federal government, however, discriminating against gay and transgender people is perfectly legal.

            Now, for the individual states and cities that do prohibit discrimination on the basis of gender identity, unless otherwise stated by law (see San Antonio), transgender people can legally use the public restroom fitting their gender expression because public restrooms are considered to be public accommodations.

            It has been 100% legal for transgender people to use the appropriate bathroom in Minnesota, for example, for over twenty years. It has been 100 % legal for transgender people to use the appropriate bathroom in Dallas, TX, for example, for over a decade.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No such LAW existed only a person went into their designated restroom via a sign that said male or female on the door.

          • Michael C

            That’s not how it works. Sorry.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            That is how it works. Sorry.

          • Michael C

            If the way you describe it is actually the way it works, why haven’t we been dealing with the issue of men using the ladies’ room in places like Minnesota and Dallas for decades?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Sir, men who think they are women have used female restroom for decades as you stated. I’m sure that includes everywhere there are public bathrooms. Yet if the LAW you quoted applies to restrooms , then there is no need to make a law allowing those men to use the ladies restrooms. According to you it is already in place. But if this is true then ALL men according to your definition of that law are more then justified in using a designated ladies restroom under that law. So no I’m sorry it is you who does not understand LAW.

          • Michael C

            … ALL men according to your definition of that law are more then justified in using a designated ladies restroom under that law.

            No. The women’s room is for those who identify and present as women. The men’s room is for those who identify and present as men.

            This is how it works in the minority of places in the U.S. that protect people from discrimination on the basis of gender identity.

            You’ve made up your own understanding of the law. That’s now how law works.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            You are discriminating against a man who identifies himself as a man if you won’t allow him into a woman’s restroom via your LAW quoted… that prohibits discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations on the basis of a number of characteristics (race, SEX, religion, national origin, etc).

            You want it one way and that law you quoted does not allow you to discriminated against any sex. Therefore if we allow men who think they are women into female designated restrooms via that law then by course you must allow ALL men including men who know they are men . To include one type and exclude the other is discrimination .

          • Michael C

            Discrimination is permitted in sex-segregated facilities according to the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

            Public accommodations can designate one bathroom for women and transgender women and a second bathroom for men and transgender men.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I rest my case. Ahahaha

    • Tangent002

      Bad agents will be bad agents.

  • gogo0

    impossible, this couldnt have happened because it was a women-only restroom and men cant enter a women’s restroom in pennsylvania

  • Warrior

    There is a simple solution to this, Since it is big business who want this law let them build a third restroom called Others. or confused

    • Amos Moses

      How about “Those in need of salvation”…………..

      • Warrior

        They surely will NOT find it in the little girls room watching them undress. Luke Chapter 17 1. Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe [unto him], through whom they come!

        2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

        3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

        SO THEREFORE Amos Moses I would suggest writing The Ten Commandments on the walls of the OTHERS room, Also write John 3:16-18 and Romans 10:9-10, “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

        Luke Chapter 3
        4. As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

        5 . Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways [shall be] made smooth;

        6 . And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.

    • Nidalap

      Nope. This movement is all about forcing normal folk to accept the perverse. They won’t tolerate separate bathrooms. You’ll HAVE to deal with them in yours…

  • Ax2root

    A poster noted

    “You do understand that transgenderism is considered a state of mind, right? There is no requirement for dress or appearance. A guy just has to say that he is identifying as a woman at the moment. The modern subjectivity of gender is the essential complaint here.
    Many transgenders do stick out, they are just rare (<0.3% with 2.5:1 male to female), dense, locally permitted, ignored, handled socially, or reported to the manager. With more recent open policies, we are seeing more complaints."

    A man dressed as a woman was arrested in Virginia on Monday after police say he was caught peeping into restroom stalls three times in the past year.
    Richard Rodriguez, 30, filmed a woman in a bathroom stall at the Potomac Mills Mall, Prince William County Police said on Tuesday. A 35-year-old woman was in the stall when she saw a bag moved toward her under the stall divider. Rodriguez apparently had been filming her, police said.
    The victim rushed out of the stall to confront the man and saw him hurry to another stall, next to another woman. The victim alerted the woman and then contacted mall security of the shopping center on 2700 block of Potomac Mills Circle in Woodbridge, Virginia. "

  • Gott Mit Uns!

    This proves that ugly, white, red-headed, heterosexual males cannot be trusted.

  • Amos Moses

    LGBT Advocacy Group Launches Center For Advanced Ad Hominems

    BOSTON, MA—Touting the vast potential of the new organization to equip a new generation with state-of-the-art training in forming and deploying ad hominem attacks against social conservatives, LGBT advocacy group GLAD formally announced the opening of its Center for Advanced Ad Hominems with a celebration and ribbon-cutting ceremony Friday.

    The nonprofit organization, made possible by a federal grant of $21 million, aims to create and distribute content to improve the average LGBT advocate’s ad hominem reasoning, with a special focus on their ability to launch an ‘efficient and effective’ personal attack in any political or cultural disagreement, instead of replying directly to arguments made by any backwards idiot who might challenge their progressive views on sexuality, according to CAAD President Genny Fitzgerald.

    Asked if the grand opening had met any push-back from critics, Fitzgerald replied, “Only from subhuman, hate-mongering bigots.”

    Babylonbee…………..

    • Nidalap

      Ha! Wouldn’t be surprising, but that HAS to be a satire piece…

      • Amos Moses

        It is….. look at the babylonbee…..

  • Nedd Kareiva

    This is the result of what happens when you allow pervert lawmakers to change long established laws of decency and order and then allow the likes of the American Criminal Licentiousness Union to sue for change. We need to turn the tables on these scumbags and countersue them out of existence. When matters like these become issues for debate (there is none on this one), that portends the decline of Western Civilization, let alone the pending demise of our Judeo-Christian faith.

    • Michael C

      What “long established laws” were changed in Quarryville, PA?

      • Nedd Kareiva

        Are you looking for the truth or an attempt to try & trip me up?

        • Michael C

          You alluded to a change in the laws in Quarryville, PA.

          It’s a serious question. What laws changed in Quarryville, PA?

          • Nedd Kareiva

            No laws changes that I know of. You’re alluding to a problem you seem to have with the male gender using the woman’s bathroom. Do you have a problem with that? Yes or No? If yes, I suspect you may have some fetish you’re looking to fulfill.

          • Michael C

            This is the result of what happens when you allow pervert lawmakers to change long established laws…

            What happens when what laws change?

            I’m asking you to clarify your own statement.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            OK, no law in PA was apparently changed. But someone took liberties that shouldn’t have been taken, meaning he shouldn’t have gone into that bathroom. That aside, there is federal precedent, Title X, established in 1971.

            Now answer the previous question – do you have a problem with opposite gender use – YES or NO? If you can’t answer that, then this conversation is concluded.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Everyone, pay no attention to Michael C. and his largely irrelevant comments. Do not answer him; he’s simply looking to trip people up on an obvious issue that really should have no discussion.

          • Michael C

            Are those Guinea pigs in your picture? Cute!

          • Michael C

            This guy had no right to be in the women’s restroom. Men do not belong in the ladies’ room. Similarly, Michael Hughes (#WeJustNeedToPee) and Aydian Dowling don’t belong in the women’s room either.

            Worse yet, this guy was invading the privacy of others by attempting to photograph them in private situations. This action is illegal regardless of whether or not he was legally permitted in the restroom.

            He was arrested for committing a crime.

  • Niko

    This is what you get when you deny Christian morals and let and elect scumbucket filth to positions of power.

  • otoman

    TIME TO BOYCOTT TARGET if you have any decency at all. As most are aware, Target now allows men across the country in women’s restrooms. Even if you don’t care for yourself, care enough for my granddaughters and other innocent children.

  • otoman

    A bigot is a person who desires to remove the rights of the far majority
    while demanding special rights for a very small minority. Liberals are the
    WORST BIGOTS on the face of the earth. TARGET denies 99.9% of Americans their right to privacy. The BIGGEST act of bigotry by any retailer. BOYCOTT NOW!

  • Semp

    The feelings of trannies matter, but the feelings of the rest of the population – NORMAL people – 99 percent – mean nothing. The one thing worse than the tyranny of the majority is the tyranny of the minority.

  • Gott Mit Uns!

    This certainly proves that white, red-headed, heterosexual males cannot be trusted.