North Ireland Bakers Fined for Declining ‘Support Gay Marriage’ Cake Lose Appeal

AsherBELFAST, Northern Ireland — The Christian owners of a bakery in Northern Ireland have lost their appeal of a ruling declaring them guilty of discrimination for declining to print the phrase “Support Gay Marriage” on a cake.

“In the present case the appellants might elect not to provide a service that involves any religious or political message. What they may not do is provide a service that only reflects their own political or religious message in relation to sexual orientation,” declared Lord Chief Justice Sir Declan Morgan of the Belfast Court of Appeals on Monday.

He was joined in his opinion by Lord Justices Ronald Weatherup and Reginald Weir.

As previously reported, in May 2014, Ashers Baking Company in Newtonabbey—named after Genesis 49:20—was approached by a same-sex “marriage” supporter to bake a cake that was to feature the phrase, as well as the logo for the homosexual advocacy group QueerSpace. According to the Belfast Telegraph, the cake was for an event in observance of the International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia.

Karen McArthur, the mother of manager Daniel McArthur, then 24, initially accepted the order as she didn’t want the man to feel embarrassed. But as the matter was discussed with other family members, it was agreed upon that they could not go through with putting the message on the cake in good conscience before God.

Daniel McArthur told reporters that the company contacted the customer and offered a refund, explaining that same-sex “marriage” is against their Christian beliefs.

However, the customer, Gareth Lee, soon reported Ashers Baking Company to the Equality Commission of Northern Ireland, which in turn sent a warning to to McArthur, stating that he and his bakery had discriminated against Lee.

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In November 2015, the Commission ordered the bakery to pay compensation or face legal action. As the McArthur’s refused, the case moved forward in court. Judge Isobel Brownlie then ruled against the McArthurs, declaring them “guilty of unlawful discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation,” and ordered the bakers to pay a fine equating to nearly $800 U.S. dollars.

“This is direct discrimination for which there can be no justification,” Brownlie said. “The defendants are not a religious organization. They are conducting a business for profit and, notwithstanding their genuine religious beliefs, there are no exceptions available under the 2006 regulations which apply to this case.”

Asher’s Bakery has stated that it is willing to serve homosexuals in general—one would not know about another’s sexual behavior unless they had requested a cake for such reasons—but should not be forced to decorate cakes with messages that urge others to “support gay marriage” in violation of their faith.

”This has never been about the customer. It has been about a message promoting a cause that contradicts the Bible,” McArthur said.

The McArthur’s therefore appealed the ruling last June, and the case went back to court. On Monday, the Belfast Court of Appeals concluded that the bakery “discriminated against the respondent directly on the grounds of sexual orientation contrary to the Equality Act Regulations 2006.”

“The reason that the order was cancelled was that the appellants would not provide a cake with a message supporting a right to marry for those of a particular sexual orientation,” Morgan said. “This was a case of association with the gay and bisexual community and the protected personal characteristic was the sexual orientation of that community.”

He asserted that creating the message doesn’t equal personal support.

“The fact that a baker provides a cake for a particular [sports] team or portrays witches on a Halloween cake does not indicate any support for either,” Morgan stated.

But McArthur expressed deep disappointment and advised that his family is exploring their options for appeal.

“If equality law means people can be punished for politely refusing to support other people’s causes then equality law needs to change,” he said. “This ruling undermines democratic freedom, it undermines religious freedom and it undermines free speech.”

“We had served Mr. Lee before and we would be happy to serve him again,” McArthur stated. “The judges accepted that we did not know that Mr. Lee was gay and that he was not the reason we declined the order. We have always said it was not about the customer, it was about the message.”

As previously reported, in April 2015, an appeals court in Kentucky overturned a guilty verdict against Christian screenprinter Hands on Originals, stating that the business had a right to decline to print wording on t-shirts for a “gay pride” event.

The court noted that from 2010-2012 Hands on Originals declined 13 orders from various groups because of the message that was to be printed.

“Those print orders that were refused by HOO included shirts promoting a strip club, pens promoting a sexually explicit video and shirts containing a violence-related message,” it explained. “There is further evidence in the Commission record that it is standard practice within the promotional printing industry to decline to print materials containing messages that the owners do not want to support.”

“Nonetheless, the Commission punished HOO for declining to print messages advocating sexual activity to which HOO and its owners strongly oppose on sincerely held religious grounds,” the court continued. “The Commission’s order substantially burdens HOO’s and its owners’ free exercise of religion, wherein the government punished HOO and its owners by its order for their sincerely held religious beliefs. This is contrary to established constitutional law.”


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  • Reason2012

    Can a black man who has no problem baking cakes for white people be forced to bake cakes for ACT of a “the beliefs of black people do not matter” celebration? No. That would be a hateful demand.

    Can a person into homosexuality who has no problem serving Christians be forced to support the ACT of a “homosexuality is wrong” gathering? No. That would be a hateful demand.

    And likewise can a Christian who has no problem baking cakes for professing homosexuals be forced to bake cakes for anti-Christian ACTS, like a same-gender wedding? No. That would be a hateful demand.

    Same-gender marriage is only sought to criminalize any other beliefs, which pretty much means criminalizing Christian beliefs. And note not ONE case of those who follow islam / sharia law being sued for not violating their beliefs to not make a same-gender cake, which says it all.

    • uninvitedguest

      LOL! Why does this always turn to Islam? There are laws throughout the world that have to be followed. When they arent followed, punishment is involved. You and your ilk are not above the law.

      • Amos Moses

        “Why does this always turn to Islam?”

        because all liberals, muslims, homosexuals, tranvestites, transwhatevers, pedophiles, etc ………………. are all in the same bucket of depravity …… all heresies eventually converge because they all have their start from the same place of origin …………….

      • Reason2012

        To expose the lie that it’s about same-gender wedding when it’s really about attacking Christianity while leaving all muslim bakers alone.

        • uninvitedguest

          Sure. This has zero to do with christianity. Such hubris. Do you really think that gays and supporters of equal rights are afraid of muslims? LOL! You are sadly misinformed

          • Amos Moses

            “Do you really think that gays and supporters of equal rights are afraid of muslims? ”

            lets ask some of the homosexuals to whom were given flying lessons from the tops of buildings and see what they say ….. oh … wait a sec …. they were beaten to death if they managed to survive ………. gee, its really hard to ask the ones who have had direct experience …. unlike your uninformed opinion ……………….

          • Reason2012

            Feel free to show the muslim baker / florist / photographer / t-shirt maker that’s been sued. Plenty of Christian ones have. And it’s the muslims that_kill gays around the world. You are misinformed.

          • uninvitedguest

            how many muslim bakers are in your are? There are none in the area where I live. one of the more ridiculous arguments Ive seen. pseudo christians seem to be the only ones determined to discriminate against gays. you need a new argument

          • Reason2012

            You prove my point by defending muslim bakers refusing to make a wedding cake for same-gender weddings.

          • uninvitedguest

            I havent defended anyone. Its no wonder you all are perpetually on the losing side of this. Your arguments are those of a 5y/o

          • uninvitedguest

            Not at all. You’re too ignorant to realize that your days of legal bigotry are over. Get used to the fact that the laws regarding public accommodations will be enforced. No wonder you all lose every single time you try to fight for your “right” to discriminate.

    • Michael C

      This article is not about a bakery selling wedding cakes without discrimination. It’s a mistake to confuse the issue.

      And note not ONE case of those who follow islam / sharia law being sued for not violating their beliefs to not make a same-gender cake

      Firstly, cakes don’t have a gender, let alone a “same-gender” (whatever that means).

      Second, perhaps Muslim bakers are not being sued because they’re not refusing service to gay customers. There was a conservative comedian by the name of Crowder who made a big show of ordering a wedding cake from several Dearborn bakeries. He ran into two problems with his little stunt; 1) Discriminating against gay people is legal in Michigan and 2) it didn’t matter anyway because all of the bakeries were happy to serve him. Nobody said “no, we won’t do it.” You can read about it in an interview with Christopher Agee at Western Journalism or in an article by Natasha Dado from Arab American News.

      • Reason2012

        Firstly, cakes don’t have a gender, let alone a “same-gender” (whatever that means).

        It’s obvious to everyone that I was talking about a same-gender “wedding” cake, just like elsewhere in the same post. That you pretend I meant otherwise only shows everyone else how dishonest you typically are.

        perhaps Muslim bakers are not being sued because they’re not refusing service to gay customers.

        False. As you point out, there ARE bakers run by muslims that will not bake a same-gender wedding cake. And notice you even excuse them for it yourself. Thank you for showing the double standard activists like you have even giving muslims a free pass for doing exactly what Christian bakers do.

        Third, you continue to ignore the point that I’ve asked you before and you always vanish: Can a black man who has no problem baking cakes for white people be forced to bake cakes for ACT of a “the beliefs of black people do not matter” celebration?

        I suppose you’ll vanish now, or ignore the point. Again.

        • Michael C

          As you point out, there ARE bakers run by muslims that will not bake a same-gender wedding cake.

          Actually, I only pointed out that there are Muslim bakers who are perfectly happy to sell cakes (even wedding cakes) to gay people.

          What I said was that the state of Michigan allows businesses to refuse service to gay citizens. This means that it is legal in the vast majority of the state for Christians, Muslims, or anyone else to discriminate against gay people.

          And notice you even excuse them for it yourself.

          I don’t excuse anyone for discriminating against gay people. I simply explained that it was legal in Michigan (as well as most of the country, actually). I think it’s disgusting that anyone would refuse service to a person just because they’re gay. I also think it’s disgusting that this type of discrimination is still legal in the vast majority of the country.

          Give me one example of a business (Muslim owned or otherwise) that refuses service on the basis of a customer’s sexual orientation (or religion, or race, or sex, or disability, or national origin, or veteran status, etc) and I will tell you that I find it disgusting.

          From what I’ve seen, Muslims are not denying service to gay people. A certain sect of Christians are.

          you continue to ignore the point that I’ve asked you before and you always vanish: Can a black man who has no problem baking cakes for white people be forced to bake cakes for ACT of a “the beliefs of black people do not matter” celebration?

          You would really benefit from taking some time to learn about our great Nation’s nondiscrimination legislation.

          The answer is no. A baker would not be required by law to cater a racist event. Racism is not a protected characteristic. …unless racism is a part of the customer’s religion. You see, religion is the only protected characteristic based on ideology. If a customer was throwing a religious event to celebrate their racist religious views, the baker would be obligated to serve them. However, the baker is under no obligation to sell them a product that they wouldn’t regularly offer to the general public.

          For example, a customer walks into a bakery, points at a menu on the wall and says “I’d like a chocolate cake for my whites only religious women’s retreat.” The baker must sell them the cake. If the customer asks for the words “Whites are superior,” then the baker is permitted to refuse service. The baker would not be refusing service on basis of the customer’s race or religious views, but instead because the customer requested a product that they would not be willing to sell to any customer.

          For this reason, I disagree with the decision in the case of this Irish baker. I don’t believe our system would have found them guilty of discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

          And by the way, please cite posts from you denouncing islam / sharia law that someone followed yet again when they slaughtered 50 LGBT people. Please cite that post from you.

          As disgusting as I find discrimination, I cannot begin to describe my feelings surrounding the Pulse massacre. I doubt you’d be able to understand. To simply say that I condemn this horrific act is too hollow a sentiment. I can’t even put my feelings into words for you. Tears are the only way I can express what I feel surrounding the Pulse victims and the victims of violent persecution around the world.

          Do I blame all Muslims? No. Just as I don’t blame all Christians for they way you choose to treat people. That just wouldn’t be fair.

          • Reason2012

            Actually, I only pointed out that there are Muslim bakers who are perfectly happy to sell cakes (even wedding cakes) to gay people.

            So you admit there are muslim bakers that will NOT? So what’s with your selective outrage? You just made my point.

            What I said was that the state of Michigan allows businesses to refuse service to gay citizens. This means that it is legal in the vast majority of the state for Christians, Muslims, or anyone else to discriminate against gay people.

            Yet isn’t same-gender marriage supposed to be legal nation-wide? Again, here you are defending why you are not outraged when muslim bakers do the same thing Christian bakers. And muslim bakers exist all across the country. You’re being hypocritical.

            Give me one example of a business (Muslim owned or otherwise) that refuses service on the basis of a customer’s sexual orientation (or religion, or race, or sex, or disability, or national origin, or veteran status, etc) and I will tell you that I find it disgusting.

            You already pointed out you’re well aware of such a case: the muslim bakers pointed out by Crowder. And yet you found a way to justify not going after them.

            From what I’ve seen, Muslims are not denying service to gay people.

            This after you just got done admitting you SEE muslim bakers refusing to bake a same-gender wedding cake. Thank you for showing how dishonest you are being.

            The answer is no. A baker would not be required by law to cater a racist event. Racism is not a protected characteristic.

            And hence neither is anti-Christian bigotry.

            As disgusting as I find discrimination, I cannot begin to describe my feelings surrounding the Pulse massacre.

            Yet you NEVER post denouncing the murderous anti-homosexual ideology of islam / sharia law, which exposes your dishonest bigotry towards Christianity. Islam / sharia law commands modern day_killing of LGBT – and they DO it while you say NOTHING. Christian won’t bake an anti-Christian cake and you go into fits. THis just shows you’re really expression your anti-Christian bigotry, and actually hate the LGBT community as proven by your utter silence about islam / sharia law that commands their execution

            Tears are the only way I can express what I feel surrounding the Pulse victims and the victims of violent persecution around the world.

            So supposed tears, but not ONE denouncing of the ideology of islam, but not bake a anti-Christian cake and you post hours daily attacking Christianity.

            Do I blame all Muslims? No. Just as I don’t blame all Christians for the way you choose to treat people.

            Nice words, but let’s look at your actions: hours daily attacking Christians, never ONCE denounce islam. Your actions expose your words as patently false. Thanks for showing it.

            You might consider back up your supposed “tears” for the LGBT community and speak out against islam / sharia law that is the reason they they continue to be_killed daily, instead of remaining silent and verbally attacking Christians daily instead, as that completely contradicts your words..

          • Michael C

            1) Where are these Muslim bakeries that are refusing service to gay people? Do you have even one example? As I’ve already said, all of the bakeries that Steven Crowder visited were happy to serve him. None of them discriminated against him. I’m not aware of any Muslim bakeries who have refused to sell their products to gay people, even in the places where it’s 100% legal.

            2) Islam and Judaism have the same teachings and prescribed punishment for homosexuality. The ideologies are the same. The practices are different. I will condemn the practices of individuals. I try not to criticize religion on the whole (especially on a religious forum).

          • Reason2012

            as I’ve already said, all of the bakeries that Steven Crowder visited were happy to serve him.

            False. That you continue to repeat something you’ve been shown is false makes it a lie. They turned them away and REFUSED to make a cake for a same-gender ‘wedding’ and recommended they go elsewhere. It’s in the video I cited.

            That you lie to defend islam only show how you hate the LGBT community and are instead using the LGBT community as your means of acting upon your anti-Christian bigotry.

          • Michael C

            You have been deceived.

            Steven Crowder, in an interview with Christopher Agee of Western Journalism admitted that “no one said ‘No, we won’t do it.’”

            …and from Natasha Dado’s article for Arab American News, Dearborn sweets employee (one of the bakeries visited by Crowder), Hussein Khansa explained that “Dearborn Sweets has made a cake for a gay couple’s wedding before; and that the couple returned to have the bakery make them one for their anniversary.”

            I mentioned both of these articles above. Didn’t you read them?

          • Reason2012

            Steven Crowder, in an interview with Christopher Agee of Western Journalism admitted that “no one said ‘No, we won’t do it.’”

            Watch the video. In the video they say no MANY times and told him to go to another baker. I pointed out the video – didn’t you watch it?

          • Michael C

            Have you ever heard of editing?

            What does the phrase “no one said ‘No, we won’t do it.’” mean in your world?

          • Reason2012

            Watch the video. In the video they say no MANY times and told him to go to another baker. I pointed out the video – didn’t you watch it?

            So while you lie claiming he said “no one said “no we won’t do it” you can see in the video them say they won’t do it and even tell him to go to another baker.

            Thank you for continuing to show everyone else how dishonest activists like you are – the video makes it plain.

          • Michael C

            Allow me to explain a little of how non-discrimination laws work. While businesses are prohibited from refusing service on the basis of a number of characteristics (race, religion, sex, national origin, etc), a business is under no obligation to provide a product that they don’t regularly offer to the public.

            For example; If I were to walk into an auto parts store and ask for a wedding cake, the store is under no obligation to provide me with one. They don’t sell wedding cakes.

            Similarly, if I were to walk into a bakery that doesn’t sell wedding cakes, they’d be under no obligation to provide me with one. If you had actually read the articles I referenced above, you’d understand this.

            What would it take for you to understand that none of the businesses that Steven Crowder visited actually refused him service? Would you finally believe it if Steven Crowder just came out and said it? Would you finally believe it if Steven Crowder, himself, admitted that none of the businesses refused him service?

          • Reason2012

            If I were to walk into an auto parts store and ask for a wedding cake, the store is under no obligation to provide me with one. They don’t sell wedding cakes.The bakeries Crowder visited DO sell wedding cakes – they had catalogs SHOWING wedding cakes – they were looking THROUGH those for examples in his request.

            What would it take for you to understand that none of the businesses that Steven Crowder visited actually refused him service?

            The video shows they refused to make him a wedding cake for his supposed same-gender wedding. It shows them recommending they go to a different bakery instead.

            Would you finally believe it if Steven Crowder, himself, admitted that none of the businesses refused him service?

            Steve admitted no such thing. In the video he shows how he was refused the cake and told to go to another baker in another case.

          • Reason2012

            Islam and Judaism have the same teachings and prescribed punishment for homosexuality.

            False. The isrealites alone were commanded to deal with those who performed homosexual behavior. And just like many other judgments (adultery and so on), the covenant of grace through Christ means those judgments are no longer done – that God will be the one dealing with the judgment instead. Doesn’t make those behaviors right – but that God will judge them in this life, the next or both if people do not repent from such behaviors.

            Islamists will_kill to earn heaven and killing_heathens, Christians, or those into homosexuality they think they’re earning heaven. Quite a different teaching that you falsely claim is the same.

            And you continue to lie many times now to defend islam shows everyone else how you hate the LGBT community and just use them to promote your anti-Christian hate.

        • uninvitedguest

          Not everyone is as anti islam as yourself. You denounce it if thats what you need to do but dont force your bigoted beliefs on others. There are radicals in every religion. Do you support westboro? Do you want to be associated with them? You need to get a grip.

          • Reason2012

            Of course not – you seem to support them dropping “gays” off of buildings and defend islam as a “religion of peace’ like many supposed “LGBT activists”.

            You denounce it if thats what you need to do but dont force your bigoted beliefs on others.

            Fancy that – in response to calling them out for_killing gays, you label calling them out for_killing gays as being an anti-islam bigot. Thanks for proving how you have murderous hatred for LGBT and support those who follow islam / sharia law by_killing LGBT.

          • uninvitedguest

            now you’re just a liar for christ. I have never defended the killing of anyone. You are just another pseudo xtian racist here spouting your nonsenses. We get it…you hate islam. You are far from being a rightous person.

  • Trilemma

    I don’t see how this is discrimination. The bakers would not have made the cake for a heterosexual customer either so the sexual orientation of the customer was not the issue.

  • Liberal Elitist

    The majority of “Christian” business owners have no problem treating heterosexual and homosexual couples equally. It’s very telling that the “Christian” business owners who do refuse equal treatment to homosexual couples can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

    • Boo-hooray

      You’re not equal to normal people, silly girl.

      • uninvitedguest

        you mean “normal” people like yourself? definitely not equal to religious bigots

    • Reason2012

      The majority of black business owners have no problem treating white and black couples equally. But if a white OR black person comes in and demands the black backer make a “the beliefs of black people do not matter” cake, they’re not required to bake it. And so it goes with Christian bakers being asked to bake an “anti-Christian” cake, even if another Christian who’s not homosexual asked for it..

      • uninvitedguest

        there’s absolutely no difference in a wedding cake for a straight ceremony and one for a gay ceremony. they are the same. if you bake wedding cakes then you bake them for anyone who comes through the door. public accomodation laws ensure this

        • Reason2012

          Just like there’s no difference in a cake for a “the beliefs of black people do not matter” cake and a “we’re having a party” cake – but being asked to support that anti-black ACT is the only bigoted request – it’s not about the cake.

          • uninvitedguest

            There is absolutely nobody asking for your support or anybody else’s. They are requesting a service that the bakery provides for other customers.Public accommodation laws ensure that everyone is treated in the same respect. Those who go into business are required to have an understanding of this concept. Pseudo christians seem to be the only ones who cant seem to get this through their heads. The laws that are in effect to stop this discrimination will be the downfall of those who go against them. Break the law and get punished . No sympathy from me for those who cant seem to follow the laws of our nation and/or states.

  • p78

    Homosexuality is a mental illness. Those who support it are mentally ill. The human race would have died out had it been accepted in centuries past. Sorry if the liberal elite don’t like the truth ( actually not sorry don’t give a s**t). The Judiciary passing these laws should be locked up. The moral decay is accelerating thanks to the liberal left and the fag community.

    • uninvitedguest

      Never would have thought that I am mentally ill for supporting my fellow man. Wow! Sad that you’re so oppressed by gay folk. The judiciary dont pass laws, the legislature does. Hope things get better for you.

      • p78

        Well they certainly won’t get better for you!

        • uninvitedguest

          My life is wonderful. Married 17yrs with two children. I have a great career and live on a small horse ranch in Texas.

          • Amos Moses

            And you still do not get it ……….

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    The West is losing truth and morality and freedom and sanity as they are losing Christianity. The Western nations need Christianity for sanity and fairness. It is crucial.

    • uninvitedguest

      There is nothing crucial or needed from your religion. Religion has nothing to do with sanity or fairness. Its purely about indoctrination.

      • Amos Moses

        ROTFL and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L ….

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          Yes, it’s unbelievably sad. The ugliest thing in this world is the secular Westerners who slander Christianity. Hopeless is a man who attacks his own conscience and his own good parents for the sake of abnormal depraved immorality.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        You are the one who has been indoctrinated by the Nazi liberals.

        • uninvitedguest

          I’m neither liberal nor conservative. I’m human. The indoctrination is what your religion is all about. Talking snakes and people who walk on water……pure rubbish.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are a liberal; liberals don’t believe in Biblical miracles.

          • uninvitedguest

            Not a liberal and there is no such thing as miracles. Not now and not ever.

          • Amos Moses

            Again ……. ROTFL and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L and L …. ad infinitum ……….

            Is that a scientific, theological or personal opinion ………..

          • Amos Moses

            Gay couple death threats for Trump support…

            Which “humans” are doing this …………

      • Amos Moses

        Gay couple death threats for Trump support…

        Gee, who are the “tolerant” “liberals” doing this ……….. but christians are the “intolerant” ones ………… “Its purely about indoctrination.” …. YUUUUUPPPP …… and after they attack the christians ….. who are they then going to turn on …..

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          Secular Westerners are spoiled individuals.

        • Tangent002

          Mikey Weinstein of MRFF gets death threats on a daily basis from Christian Fundamentalists. The threats are credible enough that Weinstein is allowed to request police protection at his speaking engagements.

          • Amos Moses

            credible to whom ….. and these threats are coming from the “tolerant” “liberal” “openminded” people who are supposedly better than the “Christian Fundamentalists” whom mikey gets “death threats on a daily basis” ……… the truth is they are no better than anyone else and for all their high-minded rhetoric ….. they are just liars ……

      • uninvitedguest

        Nice not having to read your posts amos….still blocked

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    “Be patient and stand firm, because the Lord’s coming is near.”
    James 5:8 (NIV)

    • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

      Amen.May it be very soon.

  • Reason2012

    www youtube com/watch?v=RgWIhYAtan4
    Watch islam bakers say no many times when asked to make a same – gender cake. Michael C lies and claims they baked the cake.

    • Bob Johnson

      So is it your position that if Muslims break the law, then it is okay for Christians to break the law?

      Steven Chowder filmed this in Michigan which does not include gender in their civil rights act so in Michigan it is legal for all bakeries to refuse service.

      These legal actions against businesses can only occur in some states – and Northern Ireland.

      • Reason2012

        So is it your position that if Muslims break the law, then it is okay for Christians to break the law?

        Notice you unwittingly admit they’re doing what Christians do but don’t seem to care in the least when those following islam / sharia law do so. You proved my point.

        • Bob Johnson

          I do not have standing to bring a case to court. Steven Chowder should get FFRF or Liberty Counsel or the ACLU to take the case. Oh, that’s right – what they where doing is not against the law in Michigan.

          So maybe Steven could go back to some Christian bakeries in Michigan and find some who refuse service and can boldly (and legally) discriminate.

    • uninvitedguest

      Where has anyone defended muslims who break our laws? Give it a rest

      • Reason2012

        Scroll down. Michael’s been doing it for days now.

  • Gena B

    The bakers are going to either have a set menu of say 6 different cakes that they make all the same exact way for everybody and don’t do custom orders or they are going to continually run into this.

  • WesTexan

    Typical liberalism and those who partake in sexual immorality (a choice) demonstrate the “tolerance” they shout from the roof tops — until you disagree with them. Then they try to destroy your business — or your life. Persecution of Christians is rising and will increase, especially from that +/-3% of the population who want to advertise their immorality. They will stand before the Judgement Seat of Christ (as will we all) and receive what’s coming to them for giving God the middle finger. God will not be mocked!

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate by perversion, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. — 1 Corinthians 6:9–10