‘Fixer Upper’ Hosts Hammered for Attending Church That Holds to Biblical View of Marriage

gaines-compressedWACO, Texas — Chip and Joanna Gaines, the hosts of the popular HGTV show “Fixer Upper,” were placed under scrutiny this week by a news outlet that sought to make an issue of the church the couple attends and present a rhetorical question as to whether or not the Gaines’ hold to the church’s beliefs on marriage and homosexuality.

BuzzFeed published an article on Tuesday entitled “Chip And Joanna Gaines’ Church Is Firmly Against Same-Sex Marriage,” which notes that the Gaines’ pastor, Jimmy Seibert of Antioch Community Church, believes that the Bible defines marriage as being between a man and a woman.

The reporter, Kate Arthur, notes that because homosexuals and others enjoy “Fixer Upper,” and because the Gaines’—who identify as evangelical Christians—have not stated a position on homosexuality, BuzzFeed decided to look into the beliefs of their pastor.

She called the church and was pointed to the beliefs section of its website, which states, “Marriage is the uniting of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime.” Arthur was also advised that the church has always held to that view.

Arthur additionally pointed to a sermon delivered by Siebert following last year’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, in which he noted God’s design in the book of Genesis.

“This is a clear biblical admonition. So if someone were to say, ‘Marriage is defined in a different way,’ let me just say: They are wrong,” he said. “God defined marriage, not you and I. God defined masculine and feminine, male and female, not you and I.”

Siebert outlined that homosexuality is a sin, but that Christ can set men free from any sin, no matter what it is.

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“Truth No. 2: God is able to give us power over every sin, including homosexuality. Lie No. 2: I am a homosexual in thought and action, and I cannot change,” he preached.

Seibert urged compassion for homosexuals and encouraged Christians to “lovingly, carefully bring them back to Scripture.”

“So are the Gaineses against same-sex marriage? And would they ever feature a same-sex couple on the show, as have HGTV’s ‘House Hunters’ and ‘Property Brothers?'” Arthur consequently posed.

HGTV released a statement following the publishing of the article, advising that it is “proud to have a crystal clear, consistent record of including people from all walks of life in its series.” It also stated that “respect[s] the privacy of our show hosts and will not comment on matters related to their personal lives.”

The Gaines have not commented on the matter, but Chip Gaines posted Scripture to his Twitter on both Thursday and Friday.

“Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be courageous; be strong. DO EVERYTHING IN LOVE,” he wrote on Thursday, quoting from 1 Corinthians 16:13, and on Friday, he quoted from Ephesians 2:8-9, “It is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this is not from yourselves. It is the gift of God, not by works, so that no one can boast.”

Other media outlets picked up on the matter, including Cosmopolitan, which characterized the report as a “startling revelation.” However, some have criticized the BuzzFeed article as being a “witch hunt” and a “non-story,” as it is not a news flash nor a surprise that Christians believe the Bible.

“This is almost unbelievable,” said Tony Perkins of Family Research Counsel on his “Washington Watch” radio show. “It appears the media thinks they have stumbled on something—that there is actually a church in Texas that believes the Bible…”

The Benham Brothers, who as previously reported, had their house-flipping broadcast axed from HGTV in 2014 after homosexual activists noted their Christian beliefs on sexuality and marriage, likewise condemned the development.

“It’s a mafia,” David Benham told conservative reporter Todd Starnes. “They are going to go after the Gaines family. They are going to try and vilify them. They are going to try and vilify their church and their pastor. And if they can’t get anyone to bend or concede, they are going to start vilifying HGTV and going after their advertisers.”


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  • TheBottomline4This

    Gay “marriages” are not, nor ever will be, real.

    Sure “it’s the law”, but so is killing an unborn baby.
    Yet we’re supposed to be concerned about children and all the evil guns that shoot themselves and could possibly kill a child.
    It’s usually Liberals using this kind of “logic”, but they seem to be some of the most ignorant people around.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Oh? What are liberals “ignorant” of?

      • TheBottomline4This

        Pretty much everything these days.
        What do Liberals get right in your view?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Gay rights, public accommodation laws, transgender rights, torture, guns, censorship, separation of church and state, cruel and unusual punishment, drug policy, abortion, pornography…

          • TheBottomline4This

            lol

    • Liberal Elitist

      You sure do spend an awful lot of time fretting over something that’s not real.

      • TheBottomline4This

        Seems you are the one doing that, since you come to a site that is against the issue, but that’s all part of your side’s efforts. Defend the cause, lol.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          I don’t know why Liberal Elitist comes here, but I don’t come to “defend” anything. Just to correct people on this site who misunderstand reality.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Then you better look in the mirror Amby, cause if you support gay “marriage”, you are not living in reality. Just because something has become legal, doens’t mean it’s right.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I don’t recall saying it was or was not right. Only that it is, and should remain, legal.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Do you think it is right?
            Why should it remain legal?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Because there’s no reason to make it illegal. That’s not how rights in a free country work; people don’t have to justify why they should be allowed to have a freedom. The party looking to take away a freedom has to justify why they SHOULDN’T have it.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Be careful in saying “people don’t have to justify why they should be allowed to have a freedom”. If you really believe that, then when things come along demanding rights in this free country, you must go along with them when they eventually become law.
            Be very careful Amby what you fight for. You will be tested on this. Hope you won’t show yourself to be a hypocrite when that time comes because as you said, ” people don’t have to justify why they should be allowed to have a freedom”.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I’m not. What freedom do I not want people to have?

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t have the names, but one thing that has happened, a son found his birth Mom and now they are a couple. They have had intimate relations and think they love each other. Are you supportive of that Amby? They’re adults and have the freedom to do that, right Amby?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yeah I guess. So what?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Why is it ok then?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I just explained this to you. Everything is okay unless and until someone can articulate a reason why it isn’t. You don’t have to give reasons why people should be permitted to do things. What kind of fascist police state do you think we live in?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Such a funny, ironic reply.

    • OhSoGood

      Denial will not change legal fact.

      • TheBottomline4This

        Your denial will not make a fake “marriage” real.

        • OhSoGood

          It’s real legally, and that’s all that matters.

          Can you prove that my marriage is treated differently than others in law?

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t know what kind of relationship you are in. Are you gay?

          • OhSoGood

            And married!

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, just gay.

          • OhSoGood

            Legally incorrect. Don’t care what your opinion or religion state.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t care what you think. You live an abominable choice. Repent or enjoy the heat.
            If you are so comfortable and sure of your choice then why bother coming to a site that is opposed to your choice. I don’t go to gay sites trying to convince them they are wrong. I KNOW they are wrong and don’t waste my time with them, but if they come here, I deal with them or you as I want to.

          • OhSoGood

            I have nothing to repent of. I do not live my life worried about a man made god.

            Live your life however it makes you happy and do no harm.

            All the bliss of life to you and yours.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Your ignorance is your bliss.

          • Liberal Elitist

            Your ignorant denial is your bliss.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Your ignorance is your bliss.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            The law says he’s married. I don’t know where you get the right to tell him he’s not.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I have every right. Not every Law is a good one.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No, you have the right to express your opinion, which, in this case, is that he shouldn’t be allowed to be married. You do NOT have the right to your own facts. You can’t simply believe things are a certain way when that belief is demonstrably false.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Another ironic comment from you.

    • johndoe

      They may not be real to you but they are to those getting married and in the eyes of our legal system. No gods are needed for any marriage. Ignorance crosses party lines…..

      • TheBottomline4This

        God trumps your opinion on the issue.

        • johndoe

          No such thing but you’re welcome to your opinion

          • TheBottomline4This

            If you are so comfortable and sure of your choice then why bother coming to a site that is opposed to your choice. I don’t go to gay sites trying to convince them they are wrong. Your opinion has no influence here.

          • johndoe

            Its a public forum. Unwad your panties

          • TheBottomline4This

            Gay sex is wrong. Unwad your panties.

          • johndoe

            Nope. Its between two consenting adults. Your holy book applies to you and you only.

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, it’s an abomination and always will be. Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Shared by some, but not all. Still not sure why you come to a site that IS Christian. You have no power here.

          • johndoe

            Funny! Nothing christian about the comments made by the “christians ” here. Public forum. Are you the gatekeeper?

          • TheBottomline4This

            As long as you stay in line, you’ll be fine.

          • johndoe

            Not worried about you or staying “in line” …lol!

  • Ambulance Chaser

    “It’s a mafia,” David Benham told conservative reporter Todd Starnes. “They are going to go after the Gaines family. They are going to try and vilify them. They are going to try and vilify their church and their pastor. And if they can’t get anyone to bend or concede, they are going to start vilifying HGTV and going after their advertisers.”

    I’m confused about what the problem is here. All Buzzfeed did was read the church’s website and report what it said. Is the church’s position on gay marriage a secret? Maybe they should take it off their website then.

    • TheBottomline4This

      Of course it’s not a secret Amby. It also isn’t wrong.
      If ya don’t agree with their view, then don’t go to that Church, don’t watch the Gaine’s show. Live your life and let them live theirs. Agree to disagree, but also don’t support ruining their lives just because you have different views.
      I don’t agree with the gay way, but I also do not bother their livelihood or right to their views. Just agree to disagree.

      • Ambulance Chaser

        And what about people who don’t know about the Gaines’ views and would like to?

        • TheBottomline4This

          Why are the Gaines’ views their business? If the Gaine’s want to share their views, that is their choice.
          I don’t know all of my neighbor’s views on things. Do I need to know them in order to allow them to live as they are choosing? Do I need to in order to know what steps I would take if I find out their views differ from mine?
          See that’s the issue with you gay “marriage” supporters from what I’ve seen. You got “marriage” legalized and now you’re damn well going to make sure it’s not revoked. You’re living in fear of that. Hmm, wonder if Trump or his supporters will try to revoke that law??? We better be on the look out for any hint of that maybe trying to happen. Let’s go on this site and teach those people something.
          LOL
          This issue keeps you busy doens’t it. It really doens’t matter if there are some who are trying to do that. It’s just as much their right to do so as it is yours to fight against it. The one problem you have is trying to make any “progress” on a site like this. It ain’t going to happen here. We know the truth and will not lower our standards to appease yours.
          Go to your legislators and put your energies there. Your views are of no use here Amby.

    • Michael C

      I think Buzzfeed deserves some flack for publishing this article. They’re simply trying to create a controversy out of nothing. They’re trying to stir a hornet’s nest to make a story that just isn’t there.

      …and the Gaineses have done nothing (to my knowledge) to deserve this negative attention. The article target’s the Gaineses for no reason whatsoever.

      • Ambulance Chaser

        Well, yes, they set out to tar and feather the Gaines and found nothing, but they went with it anyway. So that much is probably unethical.

        But the “it” is just repeating publicly available information. Information that the church is quite proud of, I might add. They weren’t hiding it. It was on their website.

  • meamsane

    Is this some kind of secret? Any Christian church that is truly biblically based believes in Absolute Objective truth outside of themselves! I see no problem here.

  • Liberal Elitist

    I’m aware of rumors that the Gaineses are fundamentalist “Christians”. I enjoy their show very much and as long as they keep their beliefs to themselves, I’m fine with it.

    • TheBottomline4This

      lol You are aware as an unbeliever that your views don’t stand a chance against God. Any seeming “victory” you unbelievers gain is just temporal.

      • Liberal Elitist

        I’m aware that you’re a nut.

        • TheBottomline4This

          No delusional one. You’re the nut in thinking gay “marriages” are real.

          • Liberal Elitist

            See above.

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, get it through your heart and head that you are delusional on this issue. Homosexuality is sin, just as the Bible says. God trumps your feelings on the issue.

          • Liberal Elitist

            You continuously attribute your opinions to your deity.

          • TheBottomline4This

            You attribute yours to your feelings, lol.

      • OhSoGood

        You are aware that as a believer, your views have don’t stand a chance against the legal contract of marriage.

        • TheBottomline4This

          So, you will agree with everything that is legal or becomes legal and see it as right then??

          • OhSoGood

            Nope. But I’m bound to it just as you are.

            Without using religion, what legal basis is to deny same-sex couples the civil contract of marriage?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Same sex is wrong. There are rights and wrongs in life. That being one of them. That’s as basic as I can make it for you.
            Why do you think it’s right?
            Are you gay?

          • OhSoGood

            Wrong is your opinion. You’re welcome to it.

            What is the legal basis backs your comment? It’s right because I harm no one and have the liberty to live my life as I wish. I have a wonderful, stable, productive household.

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, wrong is your abominable feelings toward the same sex.
            You don’t have a wonderful, stable household. You have an abominable household, but enjoy, it will only be temporary with long term consequences 🙂

          • OhSoGood

            That is your opinion, for which you only have religion as support.

            I love my life. Your opinion of it matters not to me.

            Yeah, I know the hell myth.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Your ignorance is your bliss

          • OhSoGood

            Okee dokee.

    • Amos Moses

      So they can have their first amendment rights as long as they shut up about it …….. WOW ….. what an interesting take ……..

      • Liberal Elitist

        The Gaineses can certainly do as they please. However, if they ever decide to get nutty and pull a Tony Perkins, I’ll exercise my right to change the channel.

      • Bob Johnson

        Na, it is just that when I turn on the NFL game I want to watch American football, not some guy named Joe selling shaving cream – after all it is against God’s commandment to trim your beard.

        • Amos Moses

          Nope …. it is not ………

  • softengine

    Yep, so in IT we call groups that target others in an organized way (like this) ‘Advanced Persistent Threat'(s). Modern day witch hunt for Christians who believe the bible = APT.

  • Kate Arthur: please tell us who is in your social circle, so we can examine their strange beliefs and disgusting practices in detail. Surely you would not mind.

  • bowie1

    Well LGBT activists…if you don’t like their position you can always change the channel. That’s what they advise me if I don’t like what’s on or what so and so supports.

    • TheBottomline4This

      They don’t really want that though. They want us to fall in line and comply with their ideas on it. They want us to accept their abomination as normal. Sorry, but God trumps their feelings.
      If ya think about it, God is the one whom they have the problem with on the issue. He made them to be heterosexual, but they reject that and have chosen their own way. God will have the last say on things, which is good to know.

    • Michael C

      I’ve seen a few episodes of “Fixer Upper” and I love this couple. They seem like beautiful people and their show is great. They haven’t seem to have said or done anything to offend anyone concerning the topic of homosexuality (unlike the Benhams). From what I’ve seen, loads of folks (straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, etc) are extremely annoyed by this Buzzfeed article.

      By and large, people aren’t judging the Gainses on the basis of other peoples’ words.

      (and, yes, if you don’t like a show because of whatever, change the channel. feel free to tell others that they should change the channel, too)

      • TheBottomline4This

        “said or done anything to offend anyone concerning the topic of homosexuality”
        What would be offensive…to you?

        • Michael C

          I would be offended if the Gaineses spoke out or took actions to specifically disadvantage me in the eyes of the government.

          I don’t imagine that you’d be terribly offended if someone simply disagreed with your religious beliefs but it would probably be a different matter entirely if someone petitioned the government to treat you as inferior on the basis of your religious beliefs.

    • OhSoGood

      Agreed.

    • johndoe

      Agreed

  • Guest254

    Because they haven’t professed on their show or site their personal beliefs. The bible clearly states in Colossians Chapter 4 verse 6: Let your speech be alway with grace, and seasoned with salt, that ye may know how to answer every man.

    Everyone knows what the Bible states as covenant between man and woman as God created.

    We as believers don’t have to tell them of their wrong when we know it will stir an argument. Sometimes pointing certain sins wouldn’t win over a person whose conscience have been seared by the lusts of this world. If we allow our light to shine and tell and show what righteousness looks like, then it will testify and convict them as well. No matter what a person chooses to do in this world as disciples of Jesus, we have to embrace every sinner. Let our light in Jesus win over there hearts.

    This is no attempt to justify homosexuality but to let us believers know, we may be going about this issue the wrong way.

    • TheBottomline4This

      Scripture is clear that believers are to have nothing to do with sexual immorality: “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body” (1 Corinthians 6:18). Sexual immorality, whether same-sex activity or otherwise, is a sin against a person’s own body.

      • OhSoGood

        Then don’t do it. Pretty simple.

        • TheBottomline4This

          No one should do “it”. But given the “it” isn’t real, then when “it’s” done, it is based in lies since “it” isn’t real to begin with, thus not true. Gay “marriages” are fake “marriages”. Ya need to be careful supporting wrong things like this. Other “marriages” are going to come along and they will say they are just as real as the ones you are defending now. Hope you won’t be a hypocrite when that happens. Be careful OhSo.

          • OhSoGood

            Follow the thread, hon… by “it” I’m not referring to marriage.

            30% of straight people do it (per the CDC). That’s a much larger number than gay folks.

            What marriages would that be, and why are they legally viable?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Follow the news hon. There have been some pretty strange ones come along. Saying they have a right to marry just as gays do. Be careful what you fight for.

          • OhSoGood

            Who?

            I’m asking you.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t have their names, but a few examples that have been in the news the last few years…
            A mother and a daughter in a relationship, they want to marry.
            A son and his birth Mom he found, in a relationship and want to “have the right” to marry.
            A young teen marrying a 50 yr old (the sick Mom gave permission)
            I could list more, but if you pay attention to news other than your go to’s you’ll eventually hear of the others who are scratching at the “they should be able to marry too”.
            Your sin pushing “we should marry” has opened the door for other perversions to push for the same. Make sure you show yourself not a hypocrite and support their rights if they get them through. SMH

          • OhSoGood

            Let them marry. I don’t care. However, there are laws against incest. They have to overturn those first.

            Young teens have been marrying older men since time immemorial. It’s legal.

            Sin is religion, and I do not follow yours.

            The door opened with heterosexual marriage.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Your ignorance is your bliss.

      • Guest254

        I see your point as a believer. YOU the believer flee. You have the knowledge and understanding. But as a disciple of Jesus or minister stand point, we all have to be willing to witness the gospel of Jesus. Jesus wasn’t going around bashing people first, he healed them first, gave them knowledge and understanding, then told them to sin no more.

        • TheBottomline4This

          What did he do to the money changers?

          • Guest254

            You men those who profaned His temple, the temple of God and made it to a den of thieves. Jesus overthrew the tables and whipped them out.

            But this portion of the scripture has nothing to do with what’s being talked about.

            If they are profaning your church then by all means take a stand.

            The work of a disciple encounters all types of sin.

            Even masturbastion and oral sex are sin, that wasn’t what God created us to do with those parts.

        • Amos Moses

          “Jesus wasn’t going around bashing people first, he healed them first”

          The Sanhedrin would disagree ………. he called them all sorts of names …… so fail on that point …….. He did not try to make friends with them …. He basically called them white trash and vipers and fools ……He told them who their father really was ……. satan, the devil ……

          Matthew
          12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
          12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
          12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
          12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
          12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
          12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

          Matthew
          23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
          23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
          23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
          23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
          23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
          23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
          23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
          23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
          23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
          23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
          23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
          23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
          23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
          23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
          23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
          23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
          23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
          23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
          23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chicken under her wings, and ye would not!
          23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
          23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

          • Guest254

            I totally agree. Jesus did bash them but this was after He witnessed first to them in their synagogues,
            References Matthew Chapters 4-7

          • Amos Moses

            He witnessed to those who are His sheep …… those He rebuked were not ….. and His message to them was clear ……

          • Guest254

            Jesus witnessed to all, so that His Words would testify and be either for or against you on the Day of Judgment. And the ones Jesus rebuked were of the 1 covenant Levitical Priesthood!

            AND BTW I’m for Jesus!!!

          • Amos Moses

            i did not doubt you were for Jesus ………. but it is He who picks us ….. we do not pick Him …. and to those He does not pick …… His judgement is no different ………. they get rebuke …. and more ………

          • Guest254

            Matthew Chapter 23, Jesus is rebuking the scribes and Pharisees amongst a multitude and Jesus told the multitude not to be like them. The beginning of that chapter. It all flows together

    • David Stoneslinger

      Nope!

      • TheBottomline4This

        Now isn’t that unloving of you? 😉

      • Guest254

        Well you make them more relevant by giving them the attention they seek. You should be shouting Jesus versus acknowledge them.

  • OhSoGood

    US law is not the christian religion. Marriage requires no religion.

    Skrew Buzzfeed… I watch this show all the time and really like the couple. It has nothing to do with the legal nature of gay marriage.

    I ask all of you… what harm is befalling anyone that would get the case back before SCOTUS? Mean words?

  • Guest254

    Man + Woman= more men and women, that’s easy math.

    • TheBottomline4This

      Not for the ignorant.
      It is true some can’t or don’t want children and that is between them and God, but God made things the way He wants them, it is man’s sin choice that rejects that.

      • Guest254

        Pray for them that they come into the knowledge of the truth of Jesus. That simple. But don’t expect overnight results. (Patience)

        • TheBottomline4This

          Definitely praying for them. As Matthew 7:13-14 says few will find it.

    • johndoe

      No prerequisite for procreation in marriage

      • Amos Moses

        it is a requirement for the propagation of the species and of a society ……… which homosexuals cannot carry out EVER ……… and are therefore not entitled to the benefits of an institution that they do nothing to contribute ………. and in fact work to destroy ……..

        • Guest254

          They only want the world benefits. Like govt aid and to be put on death benefits. I’m sure they love one another with the swooping of partners.

          Oooh but a marriage to another person means you only are meant to be with that one person

        • johndoe

          Nope. Neither society or marriage will suffer as a result of same sex marriage.

          • Amos Moses

            It is already …….. and if you cannot see it …. then that is to your detriment ….

          • johndoe

            Not at all. Its just your opinion, nothing more

          • TheBottomline4This

            Just as it is your opinion about gay “marriages”, nothing more.

          • johndoe

            Show me where marriages have been affected by SSM. Still waiting to hear from anyone how SSM has affected their marriage…havent had any takers… Havent seen any societal effects either with the exception of those like yourself being upset over it

          • Amos Moses

            and that is just your opinion and nothing more ….. well …. less than nothing ……

          • TheBottomline4This

            It’s humorous in a way to see how far they go in their beliefs and actually think they are right. We know God will deal with them better than we ever could in His time. There are consequences to the path they are on.

          • johndoe

            Opinions vary

          • Amos Moses

            Not an opinion ……..

            It is nearly guaranteed that John Podesta is deeply involved with this gross, disturbing, satanic worshiping practice and we can be certain that Hillary Clinton knows about this and may partake in this herself.

            As disturbing as that sounds, the documents connect many dots to several world leaders that we originally did not suspect. Shockingly, the WikiLeaks documents brought President Obama to the forefront of the issue.

            These documents indicate that a man named Terrence Bean was a fundraiser and a “bundler” for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. A “bundler” is someone who not only donates money to a politician, but also collects and “bundles” donations from other sources in order to donate one large sum of money to the candidate.

            Moving forward with these documents, it is also important to mention that Bean traveled on Air Force One twice with President Obama.

            In 2014, Bean was arrested for raping a child. Bean and his 25 year old boyfriend were charged with two felony counts of having sex with a minor (a 15-year-old boy) in 2013. They took turns molesting a little boy while campaigning with and for Obama during his reelection campaign.

          • johndoe

            Bean wasreleased and not charged. Satan worship? LOL! I’ve heard it all. Funniest thing is that you believe it…lmao! Too funny!

          • Amos Moses

            keep laughing ….. it will catch up to you ……….

          • johndoe

            I will

          • Missy Norris

            Yes, Hillary is highly involved. Amos Moses, read Agenda 21, signed in 1992 by world leaders and President Bush, Jr., at a summit in Rio de Janeiro. It is about Sustainability. If they allow same sex marriage, the couples can’t reproduce. Which, will not increase our population. The plan is to decrease the population to be able to sustain earth from global warming. Since Bush, Jr., thru Obama, we have been headed down the road to the destruction of America. Over seas trade, “NAFTA” weaked our economy. Many small, rural towns are now ghost towns, forcing people to move to the cities. There, they will have better control for inner city living. All the violence and hatred against different races and law enforcement. Removing God the Father from wjat we were founded on is a road to destruction.

          • Amos Moses

            Agenda 2030 ………

          • Missy Norris

            YES!! Finally, someone else has knowledge. Thanks Amos, be Blessed!!!

          • Amos Moses

            Pizzagate ….. not an opinion ………….

          • johndoe

            Sure it is…..spendi g too much time reading Infowars!

          • Amos Moses

            do not have to read infowars to know the truth ……….

          • johndoe

            You havent posted any truth

          • Amos Moses

            nope …. just truth you refuse to recognize ……… blinded to it ………..

          • johndoe

            Nope. I dont believe a thing you post.

        • johndoe

          Thankfully our legal system disagrees with you. Homosexuals can produce offspring through ivf and surrogates and can also adopt. Its good that they can now receive the same benfits of being that I do.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Oh, so you’re not gay, lol. Silly you for defending their abomination.
            They, the couple, are never “parents”. If the man’s sperm produced a child (with a woman of course…which is the right and only way to do it) then he is a father, but his partner isn’t a parent. The woman who had the child for the gay man is the mother, she has just agreed, usually for money, to ignore that fact. Vice versa for a gay woman who carries a child, she is the Mom, but her partner isn’t a parent.
            Gays can play that they are “married” and “parents” all they want, but they can’t do it on their own with just the two of them, because that’s not the way it’s meant to be. Just further proof how wrong and abominable their “union” is. Only fools believe otherwise.

          • johndoe

            Sure theyre parents. Just because they dont meet your standards doesnt mean a thing. Gay folks have been having and raising kids for a long time. Im quite sure they could care less about what you think. If theyre providing a loving caring environment for the children, I’m all for it. Even the AAP supports kids in a same sex family. Its sad that your religious beliefs have made you into such a hateful person….religion is a breeding ground for atheists…..

          • Amos Moses

            the “legal” system has not one thing to do with it …………

          • johndoe

            It has everything to do with it

          • Amos Moses

            It is nearly guaranteed that John Podesta is deeply involved with this gross, disturbing, satanic worshiping practice and we can be certain that Hillary Clinton knows about this and may partake in this herself.

            As disturbing as that sounds, the documents connect many dots to several world leaders that we originally did not suspect. Shockingly, the WikiLeaks documents brought President Obama to the forefront of the issue.

            These documents indicate that a man named Terrence Bean was a fundraiser and a “bundler” for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. A “bundler” is someone who not only donates money to a politician, but also collects and “bundles” donations from other sources in order to donate one large sum of money to the candidate.

            Moving forward with these documents, it is also important to mention that Bean traveled on Air Force One twice with President Obama.

            In 2014, Bean was arrested for raping a child. Bean and his 25 year old boyfriend were charged with two felony counts of having sex with a minor (a 15-year-old boy) in 2013. They took turns molesting a little boy while campaigning with and for Obama during his reelection campaign.
            ———————————————————————-
            Not much opinion and a lot of facts ………….

          • johndoe

            Too funny! See my other reply.

          • Amos Moses

            you have no other reply ……… it is just redumbnant ……..

      • Guest254

        The 2 becomes 1 flesh. 1 man + 1 woman= 1 flesh. God honors that marriage. When 2 know each other. Anything else opposes His will

        • johndoe

          It doesnt matter. No gods are needed to be married.

  • Benji

    The Regressive Left is paying for the rope that will hang them, with the kind of authoritarian nonsense exhibited in the Buzzfeed piece. Digging into people’s private lives in an attempt to expose guilt by association and some form of cultural, mental non-compliance and/or thought crime, is some pretty dark sh*t. May I remind my liberally-minded brethren that a historical component of liberalism, is the responsibility to uphold intellectual freedom no matter how offensive the ideas or beliefs might be. We ought to be concerned only with right actions– as they pertain to civil law and our constitution.

    If Chip and Jo deliberately refused to have same sex couples participate on their show, that would be another matter entirely. There is NO evidence whatsoever that this is the case. Carry on Chip and Jo!

    • TheBottomline4This

      Regressive Left is a good label for them. That is exactly what they have done…regressed things overall.

    • OhSoGood

      Agreed.

  • Becky

    What provoked the homosexual activists was the absence of homosexual “couples” on the wholesome show. They’ll most assuredly attempt to defile the show. Homosexual activists have no reservations about militantly expressing their violent hatred and intolerance towards anyone who won’t endorse them. Like the perverted citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah, homosexual activists force themselves upon those that want nothing to do with their lewd behavior and beliefs.

    “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.”
    Ephesians 5:11-13

    “Do not enter the path of the wicked, and do not walk in the way of evil. Avoid it, do not travel on it; Turn away from it and pass on. For they do not sleep unless they have done evil; and their sleep is taken away unless they make someone fall.
    For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.”
    Proverbs 4:14-17

  • michael louwe

    If it is up to the atheists n LGBTQs, all TV hosts n the President would be required to be politically-correct n vote-pandering liberals. Sorry, the liberal leader, Hillary, n the liberal Democrat party lost the election.
    ……. Wonder why many Christians do not watch Elen Degeneres, Oprah Winfrey, Amy Schumer, Bill Maher, SNL, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, etc.? Maybe, the atheists n LGBTQs should do the same.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Today’s Western culture bullies humans for not-endorsing its abnormal depravity. The West needs Christianity to become normal and to stay civilized and fair, not just for salvation.

    • OhSoGood

      It sure doesn’t need your authoritarian nonsense.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        USA needs Christian theocracy for sanity. Otherwise, it’s a perfect Sodom.

        • OhSoGood

          I’m so happy nothing goes as you wish.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Americans were good only because they were Christian or Christian-minded or Christian-educated. When Americans attack Christianity, they attack their own only sane conscience. Americans fall into militant support of abnormal sexual depravity when they do not respect Christianity. There is no exception to that.

          • OhSoGood

            Wrong on all counts.

            You sound like a muslim.

        • johndoe

          America has never been nor will it be a theocracy. Peddle your nonsense in the ME.

      • Oboehner

        Nor yours.

        • OhSoGood

          What would that be?

    • johndoe

      Nope. It isnt needed at all.

  • Missy Norris

    Satan knows his days are numbered. He knows he will soon be cast into a lake of fire and will spend eternity there….Hallelujah!! Praise the Lord. Unfortunately, he wants to take as many souls with him as possible. It saddens my heart to see how many people in this world he is deceiving. The thief “Satan” comes to steal, kill and destroy. Jesus came that they would have life and have it more abundantly. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise. Rendering the time, because the days are evil. Pray for the people of this world, our leaders, Peace for Isreal.

  • BeBeX

    GOD created everyone with a free will to choose, even HIS angels in Heaven. Since GOD created us all with this free will, who has the right to say otherwise? Whether homosexual or heterosexual it is our GOD Given Right to choose.
    Why do mere human beings force their way of life on each other? In GOD’s Infinite Wisdom, HE knows what HE is doing. We will all stand before a Just GOD to give an account of our life on earth and the choices we made. Each soul is responsible to their Creator, not anyone else. GOD does not Create souls for damnation, our choices do that. Choose wisely.

  • Amos Moses

    Nation Shocked, Horrified As Christians Hold Christian Position