Texas Senate Approves Bill Requiring Restroom Use to Correspond With Birth Certificate

AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas Senate approved a bill on Tuesday that would require those using restrooms and locker rooms in government buildings and public schools to use the facility that corresponds with the sex on their birth certificate.

Following approximately five hours of debate, Senate Bill 6 passed 21-10 mostly along party lines, with Sen. Eddie Lucio, Jr., D-Brownsville, being the sole Democrat voting in favor of the measure.

“I think the people of Texas expect boundaries between gender,” stated sponsor Sen. Lois Kolkhorst, R-Brenham in a speech on the Senate floor. “It’s not easy when we talk about these issues. Cisgender. Transgender. How many genders are there? Are we created man and woman? Or do we internalize something different?”

“I think the God I believe in, the cross I wear today, said there was man and woman,” she declared.

Kolkhorst opined that the “blurring of gender” will be harmful to women and the cause of women’s rights.

But Democrats criticized the measure as potentially causing embarrassment to residents whose looks don’t match the restroom they are required to use.

“Don’t you see the damage that does to kids, to be humiliated and embarrassed because they can’t use the bathroom of the gender they identify with?” asked Sen. Sylvia Garcia, D-Houston.

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“How do you have a transgender woman that’s just as feminine as any woman on this Senate floor … go to a men’s restroom?” also inquired Sen. John Whitmire, also of Houston.

As previously reported, Senate Bill 6, also known as the Texas Privacy Act, was filed by Kolkhorst in January.

The measure is three pronged: It prohibits local municipalities from creating ordinances that control restroom usage at private businesses, requires those who use lavatories or locker rooms at government buildings and schools to use the men’s room if they were born a man and vice versa, and increases criminal penalties for crimes committed in restrooms, dressing rooms or locker rooms.

“A political subdivision or state agency with control over multiple-occupancy bathrooms or changing facilities in a building owned or leased by this state or the political subdivision, as applicable, shall develop a policy requiring each multiple occupancy bathroom or changing facility located in the building to be designated for and used only by persons of the same biological sex,” S.B. 6 reads in part.

The bill will still allow schools to make a determination on a case-by-case basis, and the rules would not apply when a private entity rents a government-run building.

It passed a Senate Committee last week 8-1 following an almost 21-hour hearing, and now moves to the House for consideration.


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  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Good!! America must never bend the objective truth (birth gender) or endanger women and children to appease the depraved feelings of a sexually sinful group of people. LGBT and their supporters need callings for repentance and proclamation of the Gospel message of salvation and damnation for-ever and never an appeasement. No slavery in the USA. Never again.

    Appeasing a falsehood is a conduct of slavery. Man should submit to God alone for the truth and freedom. USA is altogether wrong for applying the racial equality upon sexually sinful people this century; such inclination enslaves colored people again who are the majority of the Christians on earth. Western whites should wake up now and say sane things like their fellow Eastern whites, even for the children’s wellness and safety. Immoral culture hurts everyone especially the children.

    • RWH

      The trans-woman from Austin, TX (see the March 12th feature) would cause a riot if she were to enter a woman’s room now. She looks very much like a man now.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        You guys are a horribly bored species. Let him fast three days and it’ll cure of his mental illness.

        • RWH

          Mental illness is a judgement call. There are plenty who think that there is something fundamentally wrong with you. You take it upon yourself to lay hands on this person, and you will spend years in prison. And they will cure you of your mental illness as well.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Claiming to be something other than one’s own birth gender is a mental defect, if the claim is being done genuinely. The evil of the pretenders and the supporters like yourself is far greater than those mental patients because you are preying on those who are truly troubled. Seeing the American transgenders’ tyrannical attitude, it is evident they are just seeking evil and the supporters are trying to enslave mankind with a falsehood. You guys thirst after slavery again. As for me, I learned from the Christian American forefathers not to submit to this century’s Western pervs. You guys are villains again this century. US Sodom should be tried for human rights abuse.

          • RWH

            Grace, the American courts don’t agree with you–and that is what counts in the long run. These people have the same rights as every other American whether you approve of them or not. The difference between me and you is that I believe in living in peace with others. I have to work with people of various stripes, and letting my personal feelings get in the way of my work does not lead to a harmonious workplace, nor does it contribute to a harmonious society. So, should you ever decide to come here, you’ll have a very hard time getting used to a pluralistic society where people have a live and let live attitude.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            American courts endanger women and children. Liberals should stop bullying the people.

          • RWH

            Actually, the courts have been the friends for both women and children. A lot of laws have been passed protecting women and children from abusive situations, and the courts have supported all of this. By the way, in the latest polls, the majority (some up to 60%) of Americans support rights for gay people. A surprisingly large number of Americans have no problems over this bathroom thing. So, it’s no longer a “liberal” thing but is turning into a mainstream thing. The Southern Baptists tried to launch a boycott of Disney over their gay days back in the early 1990s. After ten years, they had to admit failure. In spite of these boycotts, attendance shot way up.

            Again, you will not be happy living here, so you should probably stay where you are, which incidentally, you have never revealed.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            God punishes Sodom in His way and in His time. Christians evangelize and call for repentance meanwhile. I will tell you what nation I live currently if you tell me your real name. East Asia is as small as the North American continent. I don’t want Christian-haters here to even hate my homelands because I’m not typical of any national.

          • RWH

            Well, if God punishes us, you had better hold on tight. You have both China and North Korea in your backyard, and it’s the United States that is holding them back. You can’t count on Russia to do anything, nor will Europe do much.

            May I suggest that you focus on evangelizing your own country. We have enough of our own, and they’re not doing a particularly effective job because they confuse Republican politics with evangelism.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I don’t expect and I think no one expects any nations to do anything perfect. We’ve seen how America behaves in the crisis with ISIS. Yes, when the USA gets hit, it includes all of her servant nations – most of free nations on earth. We never know the magnitude of the calamity. Christians trust in God alone. It is my freedom to talk about the USA here because I love the USA and I get news from this news site. You don’t need to reply to my comments.

          • RWH

            Well, maybe you should consult a few more news sources to get a more balanced view of things. Maybe then you would have a clearer idea as to how things work here and how our government functions to protect the rights of everyone, not just ones who think like you.

            By the way, I will reply to whatever posts I wish to respond to. Your views are so extreme that they need to be replied to. Most fundamentalists I know are not extreme. They live well with others and they work well with others because we mutually respect each other’s views, and we don’t go out of our way to incite people. Unfortunately, you do not live up to that standard as you have a very limited comprehension as to how Americans think and the type of government they want.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Sodom has no sense of respect and does not win wars. You must repent of your unbelief and supporting of the evil. Jude 1.

          • RWH

            Grace. You sure love to preach hell and damnation toward others. Haven’t you had enough fighting? You should know by now that I’m not going to stand by and take this sort of abuse from you. Didn’t anyone ever take you aside and admonish you to play nice with other people? Must you always be so abrasive?

            By the way, Israel has a significant number of openly gay and lesbian people serving in the military, and it is one of the most effective military forces in the Mideast. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with military capability. Are you now going to be brave enough to attack the Jews, God’s chosen people?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are the one who falsely accuse truth-teaching fundamentalists because you are spreading falsehood knowingly. Isreal is not saved by her military; she will get saved only through faith in Jesus Christ. Israel does abomination in the Holy Land to appease the immoral West; that’s why she is not safe. Israel should trust in God instead of fallen humans. God has ordained her fate.

          • RWH

            Grace. Still telling lies, I see. Did you tear the pages concerning bearing false witness out of your Bible as well? By the way, tell anyone in Israel your beliefs, and they will laugh at you. Apparently, you know as little concerning modern Israeli/Palestinian conflicts as you do American government and culture. Your ignorance is astounding.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You must repent of your sin of unbelief and your support of infanticide and homosexuality. You are not Christian but an apostate. God destroys every Sodom; Israel fully knows that. Secular Jews would do anything to gain more money and power just like any greedy Earthlings would. Unbelievers want to destroy the West by drugging them in the mentally ill detestable immorality and take over. Israel will be devastated as well if it keeps appeasing the Sodomites in the Holy Land. Biblical Christians alone are the only humans on earth who truly love and protect both Israel and USA and do the life-saving things for all mankind.

          • RWH

            Grace, I have absolutely no time for people who don’t know how to respond to a discussion other than to have a temper tantrum. First, you’re fixated on “sodomites,” and now you’re resorting to anti-Semitic slurs. You can’t claim to “protect Israel” when you obviously hate the people who live there. You claim that Biblical Christians are the only humans on earth who truly love; yet, I see no love coming from you. So, at this point, I think that I’ll let you sit in your little corner and cry your eyes out until you’re ready to come back and behave like an adult.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Religious Jews are not pervs. Stop corrupting the nations. Fact-telling is the form of true love. Israel must stop conducting the nudist perv parade in the Holy Land. Those who love life fear God; the Jews know it better than anyone else.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The Holy Bible teaches hell and damnation because it is the truth regarding all unrepentant sinners. Truth-telling is not an abuse but the life-saving charity for you. Liberals destroy mankind by teaching destructive lies while pretending to be Christian. All honest humans read and believe the entire Holy Bible. Israel will repent and acknowledge Jesus of Nazareth their Divine Messiah at the end. Some Jews pretend to be co-immoral to appease today’s Western Sodom for the gain of filthy money, but it is not helping their nation at all. Ask any orthodox Jews. Non-christians are not truly intelligent even if it’s the Jews. Each nation to its own destiny. Psalm 2.

          • RWH

            However, this is truth as you see it. Most Americans are not fixated on the gays as you are. Moreover, neither you nor I can know exactly what the Jews in Israel think. There are a lot of different varieties of Jew out there, Most fundamentalist Christians that I know are not the prissy holier-than-thou judgmental type that you seem to be. You would be very unhappy if you came to America because you would drive yourself crazy trying to prove that you’re better than everyone else.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            America’s(West’s) top problem is its unconditional support of homosexuality. If Planet Earth gets nuked, gay USA will be blamed for. Jude 1. Stop being so destructive and suicidal. All peoples have rights to life and truth. Listen to the orthodox Jews, too, not to the atheists or the greedy ones.

          • RWH

            The only people that I know of who are so fixated on gays to the exclusion of anything else are people who are trying to prove to themselves that they are really straight. Grace, if you have a problem with your sexuality, I’m sure that there are people over your way who can give you some serious help.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong again. Secular Americans should stop thinking everyone else is a gay just because they are Sodomites. Many Earthlings suffer poverty and have real problems in life and are normal. Secular Westerners are too well-fed and are being bored. The West needs Christianity to be normal.

          • Johndoe

            Conservatives are the real bullies…

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, conservatives feed the liberal free-loaders. Be grateful to the conservatives.

          • RWH

            In the United States, it’s the conservatives who are against any type of program to help the poor. The new “Trump Care” health plan promises to exclude millions of people from health care. He also looks like he wants to go after Medicare and Social Security benefits. It’s the liberal establishment that has established much to help the poor of the nation, many of whom are working poor who need food stamps and other support to survive.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Liberals make the people relying on others for-ever. Healthy people should stop getting white men’s free bread but earn bread by working hard with one’s own hands.

          • RWH

            Grace. If you did some serious research, you would discover that most of the people getting “white men’s free bread” are part of the working poor. They are working for low-paying jobs and are not earning enough to even buy decent health insurance, let along groceries and their other needs. But then again, I suppose that you tore those pages out of the Bible that calls for justice and for feeding the hungry. You know, the verses that talk about doing good “for the least of these.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The system is wrong, then. It’s government’s duty to make healthy men work and earn enough. All the liberal rioters are not working to earn their own bread; that’s the problem. If they were working properly, they would not be rioting like that even if the President is not the one they desire.

          • RWH

            And what is your proof that those who were demonstrating (only a small minority rioted are shiftless welfare people? We had local demonstrations, and among the participants were community leaders, the Sisters of St. Benedict as well as the Sisters of St. Joseph, college faculty and administrators and other people who are respected by the community.

            You really do need to read your news from sites other than Alt-right ones.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The USA should not make the Catholics pay for or conduct Nazi-infanticide against the Word of God and against their clear conscience. We can all feed each other as long as alive, but the murdered children’s life never returns. Poverty can be overcome, but not the death. Abolish the evil legal infanticide first. The first thing first.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Western white men feed the world with blood money and demand everyone to submit to their depraved homosexual immorality. It’s the reality on Planet Earth. Listen to the Biblical Christians in your world and stop the slavery. Racists have more morality than Western pervs of today. Western whites are seeking warped amusement again. The Western culture is just chaotic immoral if it has no Judeo-Christian values.

          • RWH

            More bitching and complaining. That is all you do. You don’t lend anything constructive to the debate here. All you’re interested in doing is to yell at people and tell them how bad they are. It’s like the story of Peter and the Wolf. Peter cried “wolf” so much that nobody bothered to listen to him anymore. or as one of my friends used to say, “why don’t you flip the record over.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            These are facts. Are you a woman? Female ordination has been the curse in the Christendom. One deliberate disobedience leads to another, deadlier apostasy. You should stop slandering individuals. Everyone has rights to fight for freedom. Western Sodomism oppresses the world.

          • RWH

            I’m not slandering individuals. I’m calling you out for what you are. You’re a frustrated old woman who is so unhappy that all she can do is complain. Are all of those nasty gays out to get you? Are you trying to deny that you, perhaps, are gay yourself?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Yes, you are slandering individuals in cowardly manner. Gays are your victims because the apostate New Age Sodomic social clubs keep teaching them lies. You Americans should stop regarding others as gays. People are more normal outside of your culture. You need Christianity to be sane and normal again.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            I hope your profile is lying. It is a terrifying thought that you would homeschool a child. No child deserves to be handicapped and abused that way.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Children grow up. I’m no longer homeschooling. The West imposes godless atheistic education in public schools, and homeschooling is often the only option for those who cannot afford private Christian schools. You liberal cowards should stop attacking people. True Americans do not bully a colored woman by coming as a bunch. Pity to your forefathers to have immoral cowardly descendants. You must repent of your sin to get saved. Read John chapter 3.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Liberty doesn’t protect itself against theocracy. You can pretend to be the victim, but I see through your lies.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There is no liberty apart from God. The Christian Europeans came up with the concept of freedom by reading the Holy Bible. John chapter 8. Americans just stole the ideas. USA needs the Christian theocracy to be free. Americans do not submit to human villains but to God alone – the meaning of American liberty. Decadence is a slavery-by-immorality.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Wow. Religious compulsion is actually one of the things that the United States were founded to get away from, so it’s amazing that you’re so blunt about wanting to inflict it again.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Christians created the USA for Christian happiness. Submission to atheism is unthinkable.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            How weird, then, that the 1st Amendment explicitly prohibits making the United States officially Christian…

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. US Constitution guarantees all Christians to live out the Biblical Christianity. Non-christian ideology and pagan religions do not have any concept of religious freedom. Americans stole ideas from the Holy Bible and Christian Britons.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            What constitution? The U.S. Constitution does not establish a Christian theocracy, nor is the federal government empowered to interpret scripture. Can you point out where in the Constitution it says that other religions aren’t allowed or equal before they law?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Outside of Christian theocracy, it’s impossible for man to obtain human rights and freedom. US Constitution is founded upon the rule of the law, but that lawfulness is taught only by the Holy Bible. Americans should get back to the roots and stop forcing immoral falsehood and decadence upon the people. America has no rights or freedom apart from Christianity.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            What you’re telling me is that you explicitly reject the U.S. Constitution. The U.S. Constitution repeatedly makes clear that religion is not mandatory, cannot be made mandatory, and is outside the scope of the government’s authority.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The creators of the US Constitution EXPECTED all Americans to respect Christianity, if not living it out. To do otherwise was unthinkable to all Europeans and Americans. They never imagined Americans to be blasphemous militant atheistic or mentally ill Sodomic by mass. Modern Americans got thoroughly rotten by the prosperity brought by your hard-working Christian forefathers.

            If the Founding Fathers knew the future, they’d have specifically added the truth and morality’s rights to exist. Sodomic West prohibits the truth and morality and the safety of women and children to appease the Sodomites. Men become chaotic evil to women and children when they have no virgin women to marry, although playboys do not deserve virgin brides. You need Christianity to become proper.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Then why did the founders specifically protect all religions, not just Christianity? Why did Thomas Jefferson specifically name Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism as religions entitled to freely worship? You’re inventing a fantasy that is absolutely inconsistent with the text and history of this country and its constitution. You’re making up a theocratic ideal that was firmly rejected from day one. The state was never meant or expected to interfere in religious life.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The few pagans were quiet and submissive to the Christian whites because Christian whites were moral and intelligent and respectable unlike today’s secular Americans. The Founders never imagined any to cause troubles. Also, they meant different Christian denominations as well by saying different religions. It was before the atheistic Soviets’ atrocities to happen. US Constitution expected all Americans to be Christian-moral. USA is bound by the same values and not by the blood. Democracy works well only with the educated Christians and their hard-core mimickers. Atheists and Sodomites should not bully the Christian people in the West.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Okay, good luck with your sharia.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You Americans have been spoiled by the gentle Christian too much.

          • Ken S., As Seen On Watch Lists

            Try us. 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I personally don’t like the secular whites who slander their own ancestors and parents who were better than themselves in every way. No other race slanders the ancestors; just the secular whites do because they hate morality and Christianity.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Anything is better than Obama Care that upholds infanticide and sexual immorality. Sodom has only woes.

          • RWH

            And you come up with no concrete, helpful solutions. All you can do is cry, and sulk, and pout, and scream jeremiads at others. If you think that America is so bad, why don’t you butt out of our internal affairs and mind your own business. You’re like a gossipy old woman who has nothing better to do but to spread evil rumors about her neighbors.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            If the West repent of its blasphemy and infanticide and abnormal sexuality, most of the world’s problems do not even happen. I love the USA. I don’t talk about my neighbors at all; I always directly tell people to trust in Jesus and not to kill the unborns and not to eat dogs. You should stop slandering individuals groundlessly. Be a man.

          • I have a question about Sodom for you.

            When the men wanted to rape the angels, who did Lot offer in their place?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            In the pagan world, men had to often sacrifice their female relatives to just spare the whole clan from the impending enemies. The Westerners do not know the outside of their cozy Christian bubbles. Today, the USA sacrifices its own children to appease the rich sexual pervs when no one even threatens the nation. The USA does the child sacrifice out of sheer boredom; today’s Western culture is guiltier than Sodom and Gomorrah. Jude 1. You guys lost your wits altogether by losing virgin women from among the population and also losing Christianity. Please wake up and become civilized again by upholding the Judeo-Christian values your only sanity. Repent of your sin and read John 3 to discover how to get saved.

          • That didn’t answer the question at all.

            Now, which version of the bible should I read and what is the evidence it is true?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Any version is good except for the JW’s World Translation. Vist Bible Gateway. I recommend NKJV and NIV. KJV and NASB are too hard for common readers. The Holy Bible is true and pure and glorious and full of astounding love of God and saves souls. It tells of our reality being sinners and of the one true holy living God who loves us and sent His Savior, Jesus God’s Son, to redeem us. Just start reading. The Gospel of John or the Gospel of Mark in the New Testament Bible is good to start from. Go to a Christ-centered, Bible-believing church on Sunday, too.

          • And your evidence for these claims would be?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The superb noble incomparable content of the Holy Bible and the effects it brought, seen in the history and in the current world. The evidences are both internal and external and they are altogether eternal.

          • So why are you struggling to provide evidence that it’s any moretrue than any other holy book?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Other books are not holy. Westerners love other religions because other religions are not holy and do not condemn the West’s chaotic deravity. Everyone bows to West’s filthy money. Mankind need the Holy Bible not to become Western pervs’ slaves this century.

          • Those are claims. I need evidence.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The Holy Bible freed the colored people from illiteracy and from the white slave owners. Ex-christian Western whites need the Holy Bible to be freed from their immoral culture in the 21st century. A summary of human history. Evidences.

          • Evidence?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Ya, you and your Christian fundie friends.

          • Umm…?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Non-christian Americans are immoral and bad. Christian Americans are moral and good. The evidences.

          • I’m not American so this is entirely irrelevant. As it stands, these are claims though – where is the evidence for this?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Western Europe has been worse than North America morality-wise. You guys should be thankful to Americans for rescuing your region from Nazis and atheists last century. Stop slandering the Americans. Evidences.

          • Please quote my slander.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Americans fought for the world’s liberty, not for a false gain in WW2. But you believe otherwise, don’t you?

          • You’re the one that brought up my slander. Show me where it is.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You know where they are. Stop pretending.

          • So show it.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read your own comments. Do your own work.

          • You’re the one making the claim which makes it your work.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            This is the iron-hard pattern on our planet and you fit the typical. Unbelieving Americans attack Christianity and their own forefathers who are morally better than anyone else on earth. Unbelieving Western Europeans attack Christianity and the Americans of all time. There hasn’t been any exception to this pattern. Only the Christian Westerners uphold the truth and know any history and are properly grateful about the life on earth.

          • *not American.

          • Johndoe

            I’ve worked for everything I have. Conservatives have done absolutely nothing for me. Where do you come up with this stuff?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The conservatives created the Christian USA, the most superb framework on earth. You were fed by them and received all their goodness. If you were living in a pagan nation or an atheistic nation, you’d never have received anything you work for fairly. The Liberals only corruped and weakened the nation.

          • RWH

            And who are these conservatives that you have in mind? The Puritans? They persecuted all dissenters, and after the Salem Witchcraft Trials, Puritanism faded out because the forces of tolerance prevailed. The American Constitution was considered a very liberal thing at the time because the new country, the United States, rejected the idea of a monarchy and a state church. Ideas for the Constitution were based chiefly on the Enlightenment in Europe, a movement which stood in opposition to authoritarian Christianity and absolute governments. The idea of separation between church and state was an extremely radical idea at that time.

            By the way, the Geneva Bible was considered a liberal document because it was one of the first versions of the Bible with margin notes, all which supported the people’s right to rebel against corrupt leadership and was considered to be a direct attack on the divine right of Kings, an ideal that James I of England cherished. The KJV did not come into common use until way into the late 1700s because it was considered a product of the Church of England and was conceived as a rebuttal to the Geneva Bible.

            Again, Grace, why don’t you read a reliable history book for a change?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            But the conservative Christians created and nurtured the USA. Today’s USA is nothing the Americans imagined even 40 years ago. Collapse of family unit made many Americans Non-Americans. Now the land is open to anybody like it was in the former days.

          • RWH

            Lots of hot air, gross generalizations, and yet no substance. Forty years ago, we had just finished with the Vietnam war, and we had a time of rapid change with the civil rights movement and all that. We knew what was coming back then. I lived through that time, and I know what I am talking about. You, unfortunately, know nothing.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Americans didn’t preach perversion 40 years ago like they do today. Your nation was normal. Something bad happened in the 1980’s.

          • RWH

            You’re two decades too late. Most of the fun and games started in the mid 1960s.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            America became proud and mocked suffering nations and blasphemed God in the 1980’s, and that’s why so many descendants got mental illness. Stay serious always.

          • RWH

            Sorry, Grace. The 1980s in the United States were the Ronald Reagan years, a time when America went conservative. Guess again!

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I wasn’t talking about the President, but the climate. Americans were blaspheming in the 1980’s – something never( not really) heard of in the 1970’s. And the blasphemy was being left alone in peace by the people. Then Sodomy. Then pedophilia. Then the cannibalism with zombie-obsession. There seems no end in the regressing barbarism. You Westerners need Christianity to stay civilized. Stop shaming your own fathers and harming your children in the land. Listen to the Biblical Evangelical Christian leaders in your land. And it’s weird you guys submit to Islam while bullying the Christians so much.

          • RWH

            Grace, I hope that you realize that as Americans, we are capable of handling our own problems. In a democracy, one has a lot of differing and conflicting ideas. The majority of Americans are not as obsessed with gays as you are. We have a live and let live attitude, and we’re not interested in holier-than-thou types from some insignificant corner of the universe telling us our business, especially when that person comes forth with ideas that promise to harm our democratic way of life. Franklin Graham apparently hasn’t learned the lesson that his father did when he lent his blessings to Richard Nixon. People want so-called religious leadership to stay out of politics. The Catholic Church had to learn that lesson painfully years ago

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Gay America only upholds chaotic immorality and is neither free or right. Westerners including Americans always need Biblical principles to be good and fair and free. Non-christian West enslaves people with falsehood. You are neither Christian or American.

          • RWH

            Grace, We keep on explaining to you over and over that we as Americans want to be governed by a constitution and not on religious doctrine. We are not interested in having an established church that mandates belief. People have their own churches, and all co-exist very nicely. We’re not interested in converting to whatever you are, which apparently sounds very cultist to me. Even when we do have common prayer, it is so generalized that it is essentially meaningless. And most of all, we’re not interested in outsiders who see the need to preach to us.

            Will you finally admit that we will agree to disagree and that you wish to impose something that is totally UN-American? In short, give it a rest.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            America belongs to God, and He will give the land to whomever He chooses. You guys are altogether Non-American; US constitution only upholds the Judeo-Christian values and nothing of today’s moral chaos. Read Mayflower Compact, Declaration of Independence, the Pledge, and national anthem, too. Americans submit to God alone and not to liberals or to atheists or to Sodomites.

          • RWH

            You keep on saying the same old stuff over and over, and you are proven wrong over and over. The Mayflower Compact was a document written by the Pilgrims, people who wanted a Theocracy. The Pledge is a morally neutral document. Under God was added only in 1954 as a response to Communism. The national anthem is a work created by a writer. It is not a legal document. And most of all, the Declaration of Independence was based on ideas taken from the enlightenment. It is not a moral document. Other than the Mayflower Compact, which does not represent our system of government, the documents are morally neutral. None address sin and salvation. Again, you give the gays way too much power. Very few people in the United States are as obsessed with the gays as you are. If you think that we are such bad people, why not be content to stay in your own country and make the people there miserable with your whining, complaining and acting like a nagging old woman.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Europe and America were supposed to be a Christian theocracy. Because you gave up the Biblical Christianity, today’s West submits to Islam and to atheism and to sexual immorality. Only the truth is hated by the villains.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. America was created by the Christians for Christian happiness. It is wrong for America today to force Sodomy.

          • Bob Johnson

            “something never( not really) heard of in the 1970’s.”
            Sorry Grace, after that comment, I just had to pop over to U-tube and listen to The Kinks 1970 version of Lola.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are too young to remember anything. Americans were watching “A Little House on the Prairie” back in the 70’s. They were normal. The West started blaspheming in the 1980’s and everything went horribly wrong.

          • Croquet Player

            Old woman

          • Bob Johnson

            Three decades – you’re forgetting the 1950s Beat Generation (beatniks). Greenwick Village and North Beach.

          • Chris

            “You, unfortunately, know nothing.”

            You’re saying that she’s…Jon Snow? 🙂

          • Croquet Player

            I heard you’re on food stamps.

          • Johndoe

            LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

          • Balerion

            “Liberals should stop bullying the people – that’s our job!!!!”

            FTFY

      • Amos Moses

        then maybe she should straiten up and act her sex ……….

        • RWH

          She’s a minister. Maybe you should travel to Austin, TX and tell her that to her face in church and see what happens to you.

          • InTheChurch

            She/He is not a minister. It is a lying heathen. There is no God in that person. Yes, I can judge a fellow wannabe believer.

          • RWH

            Well, not to worry. According to the Orthodox Church, you are also a heretic, and the authorities would see to it that if you lived in Russia, Greece, or any other Orthodox country, that your church would be closed and you would be charged with the new blasphemy laws should you live in Russia. This judging game can be pretty nasty. There’s a line of demarcation in Europe between Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, and Islam that is drenched with the blood of heretics or martyrs, depending on whose side you’re on. Americans are so cavalier about these sorts of things. They are taken seriously in Europe, and as a Protestant, you would be on the losing side no matter where you turned.

          • Bob Johnson

            You forgot to mention the 20 million Coptic Church.

          • RWH

            I believe that both the Patriarch of Alexandria and the Coptic Pope claim St. Mark as their founder as both were united when Mark was alive. The split came as a result of one of the Seven Ecumenical Councils. However, the Coptic Church has never had a following in Europe, so they were not a key player in the European bloodbath. As far as I know, they have never been at war with the Orthodox, being that both churches have primates in the same locale, which is dominated by Islam.

            Recently, there have been serious talks with the Coptic Church and the mainstream Orthodox as theologians from both sides of the fence have started to discover that the issue concerning the two natures of Christ that separated them was based on faulty translations of the Greek, the language of the Church, into the Coptic language and back again. Supposedly, according to the theologians, both the Copts and the Orthodox believe essentially the same thing. Years ago, a bishop tried to explain to me the minutia of all of this as the Orthodox Church is a stickler for details. I was told that the Copts also use a variant of the Liturgy according to St. John Chrysostom. I’ve never really explored this as part of my theological training, so I can’t say things for a fact.

          • InTheChurch

            Thank God I live in America and I follow the scriptures and not man.

          • RWH

            If you attend a church and actually listen to the pastor, you are following a man. I know of absolutely no one who has simply read Scripture and arrived at his own conclusions without consulting an authority of some sort, whether that authority be a pastor or a devotional book.

          • InTheChurch

            You are looking at the first person. I have a pastor but I also question him if he is not following scripture. The only we should be following died 2000 years on a cross. He is the only man that can get me to God the father. Outside of Him, there is nothing. You better believe we can get direction, guidance and conclusions from Him today. To you, I might sound a little weird and off my rocker, but you have not seen what I have seen.

          • Next time I come across a fig tree out of season that doesn’t bear fruit, I’ll be sure to curse it.

          • InTheChurch

            That is fine with me. have fun with that.

          • Chris

            The scriptures were written by men. You can claim that they were inspired but even that claim is based on things men wrote. Whether you want to or not you are following men.

          • InTheChurch

            Yes, I agree. Men wrote it. I am not denying that. They wrote it inspired and they wrote it to up lift and worship God. They denied themselves for God.

          • Chris

            I’ve no problem with such a view. I’m constantly surprised that many posters on this site consider such a view ‘mocking God’.

          • InTheChurch

            I’m sure there are folks in your faith that are not as clear and understanding of the faith. They fall short and you must go in and correct them. People can be in different levels. I read enough scripture to know that it’s all about God through broken and hurting people.

          • Chris

            “I’m sure there are folks in your faith that are not as clear and understanding of the faith.”

            I’d say there are but then who am I to judge their development?

            “They fall short and you must go in and correct them.”

            If it’s a matter of fact then I’ll feel free. But if it’s a matter of faith then I’m aware that I’m a seeker after truth.

            “People can be in different levels.”

            Indeed. I believe I can learn from anyone. Though sometimes the lesson they teach is how far I have to go.

            “I read enough scripture to know that it’s all about God through broken and hurting people.”

            An interesting and charitable understanding of scripture. Does you credit.

          • InTheChurch

            “Though sometimes the lesson they teach is how far I have to go.”
            Or how far you have gotten and you are on track. A negative can be seen as a positive.

          • Chris

            Very true.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            “Lutheranism?” You mean “Protestantism?” There are a lot more Protestants besides Lutherans. Tens of thousands, in fact.

          • RWH

            Well, what other groups do you have in mind? During the reign of Peter the Great, the Swedish Lutherans invaded Russia and subjugated the people. Peter the Great retaliated and kicked Swedish Lutheran butts. He later invaded and annexed Finland, where the Lutherans were converted to Orthodoxy. During the same time, the Ottomans attacked Russia from the south, burned churches and killed priests and tried to make everyone Moslem. Peter retaliated, and he slaughtered virtually the entire city of Azov in retaliation and destroyed the mosques. St. Alexander Nevsky drove the Teutonic invaders from Russia, who tried to make Russia Catholic. During the seventeenth century, Russians invaded Poland and tried to convert everyone to Orthodoxy. When the Poles got liberated after World War I, the first thing they did was to destroy virtually every Orthodox church in sight. In the meantime, the Presbyterians, the Methodists, and the other tens of thousands of Protestant denominations were minding their own business in Western Europe and in the Colonies.

            Political boundaries in Eastern Europe and the Mideast shifted like crazy. Yugoslavia, for example, was a product of British meddling into Eastern European affairs, and when Communism fell there, the country erupted in civil war where Catholics, Orthodox, and Bosnian Moslem’s slaughtered each other in the name of God.

            If you ever come across a history book written in the 1800s, Russia was seen as a huge octopus, grabbing up real estate, and those beautiful onion-shaped domes were seen as a threat.

          • Amos Moses

            no …. she is PRETENDING to be a minister …………

            “I think the God I believe in, the cross I wear today, ”

            and right there is the ERROR ……. the “god” s/he “believes” in …… AINT the God of the scriptures …………

          • RWH

            Well, Seth is ordained and credentialed to pastor a church. You may not recognize his ordination nor his right to pastor a church, but that doesn’t matter. The Orthodox Church considers your church a synagogue of Satan and doesn’t recognize it as a legitimate part of the body of Christ. So, there will always be someone around who chooses not to recognize someone else. On the Sunday of Orthodoxy, which is the first Sunday of Great Lent, all Protestants and Catholics are condemned to hell, so according to the Orthodox, you’re in the same boat as this minister. This is a particularly nasty game, and a dangerous one at that. Currently, the non-Orthodox–or the heterodox–are having a rough time at it as they can’t get permission to build churches in Russia, and those that exist are under such restrictions that many are forced to close. Seth may be in error, but he has every right to pastor a church, and you have every right not to attend his church.

          • Amos Moses

            “Well, Seth is ordained and credentialed to pastor a church. ”

            sure ….. but still not a christian according to the scriptures …… paper does not change a lie into the truth ………

          • RWH

            Well, truth can be a very relative thing. What is your truth apparently is not Seth’s truth. And what is your truth is not truth according to both the Catholic and the Orthodox churches, which consider you a schismatic and bound for hell. The nice part about a democracy is that all of this can co-exist. None has the power to deprive you of a job, or to throw you out of town, or into prison as has happened in other places and times. You just have the freedom to look the other way as you pass the church doors.

          • Amos Moses

            “Well, truth can be a very relative thing. What is your truth apparently is not Seth’s truth.”

            no ….. truth is NOT and NEVER will be relative ……… it is not subject to any persons ideas of what it is …… and if it is ….. then by definition ….. IT IS NO LONGER TRUTH …… there is no your truth and my truth ….. that is a lie ………… there are not competing versions of the truth …..

          • RWH

            Amos, You have no idea as to what absolute truth is and neither do I. Nations have been fighting wars for centuries over what each one considers absolute truth. Take World War II, for instance. Read some history books written in Russia. You would hardly believe that we both fought the same war.

          • Amos Moses

            “You have no idea as to what absolute truth is and neither do I. ”

            no ……… you may speak for yourself in that regard ……. and you are not telling me anything in that regard about yourself that is not readily apparent ….

            “Nations have been fighting wars for centuries over what each one considers absolute truth.”

            again … NO ….. the first casualty of war is truth ….. so definitely not ….

          • RWH

            Well, why don’t you define absolute truth for us, and then we can find out how ignorant you are.

          • Amos Moses

            truth is a person …… truth flows from only one person ……….. and it is not open to subjection ……… it is the truth whether we choose to believe it or not ….. it does not change ………

          • RWH

            There are many streams within Christianity and many brooks and eddies. Would you like to define for us which one is the real truth?

          • Amos Moses

            that you have to even ask demonstrates your lack of knowledge of the scriptures ……………..

            John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

            Truth is a person …. and ONLY one person ………..

          • RWH

            Amos. There are many branches within Christianity, each with elaborate doctrinal statements regarding what Christ said and taught and what represents THE TRUTH. You’re so bright that you understand what absolute truth is? You identify which one of those statements represents THE TRUTH. Otherwise, concede that you don’t know what you are talking about. On the other hand, if you’re really honest, you will admit that, like the rest of us, you make your best attempt to understand what THE TRUTH is but we can never comprehend everything that THE TRUTH encompasses.

          • Amos Moses

            Christ is the only truth …. there are no competing versions of the truth …….

          • RWH

            In other words, you’re just among the number of blowhards who can’t put their money where their mouth is. Great at insulting others but can’t answer a simple question.

          • Amos Moses

            you reject truth ….. truth is either accepted or rejected … it requires no proof …. it is self-evident …… and it is self evident you reject truth and Christ ……………..

          • RWH

            Amos. The Mormons and the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come to my door spout off the same old lines as you are spouting off. Clearly, you’re too obstinate or dimwitted to admit that as with all of us, your finite and fallible mind cannot comprehend the entire truth of what God is and how He has revealed himself to us. Theologians have grappled over this for centuries. But here you are, as proud and egotistical as can be, passing judgment on others and telling us that we reject truth because we’re smart enough to know that we cannot possibly comprehend TRUTH.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Amen!

          • Balerion

            Unfortunately Amos here is a walking, talking (if his blithering can properly be called that) example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • TheKingOfRhye

    Will someone just please tell me how any of these bills that require one to use the bathroom corresponding to their sex at birth are supposed to be enforced? Are people going to have to bring their birth certificate and submit to an examination every time they want to use a public restroom? I know, sounds ridiculous, right? Well, tell me how else this is supposed to work, because I don’t get it. It’s not like transgender people carry signs on them announcing their status. You can’t always tell just by looking at someone.

    • Amos Moses

      “Will someone just please tell me how any of these bills that require one to use the bathroom corresponding to their sex at birth are supposed to be enforced? Are people going to have to bring their birth certificate and submit to an examination every time they want to use a public restroom?”

      they will be enforced by arresting anyone caught where they are not supposed to be …… just like you can run a stop sign so many times before you are caught and prosecuted …. they will bring their BC to court just as if they did not have their drivers license when caught ….. it aint rocket science …..

      but if you are really intent on NOT using the appropriate facility ….. feel free to use the nearest fire hydrant ………..

      • TheKingOfRhye

        “they will be enforced by arresting anyone caught where they are not supposed to be …… ”

        As I suppose I should expect by now from you, that completely fails to answer my question. The question is, how do you propose we determine who is indeed “where they are not supposed to be”? Just by looking at them? (Like I said, that doesn’t always work).

        • Amos Moses

          well if a person, suspected, is reported, then it is up to the police to determine it and issue a summons …… really …. this is basic stuff …… and you really have nothing to make a point other than your desire to support depravity ….. each person gets to make a choice and determine if a person is not where they should be ……. and notify the proper authorities ……….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Hmm…so, by the logic of everything you’ve said, l

          • Amos Moses

            ” it’s only when someone looks like they’re going into the inappropriate bathroom that is a problem?”

            if a person “looks like” they are going to run a stop sign …. they get a summons .. right …. NOOOOOOO …. you are not even in the ballpark ………. FAIL …………

          • TheKingOfRhye

            What? That doesn’t even begin to answer the question I asked. Maybe you didn’t understand my point, perhaps. Look at a transgender person like Jazz Jennings, for one example, and tell me you could tell by looking at her, that she was born male. Or Buck Angel, either. Google him and tell me you could say you’d be comfortable with someone who looks like that walking into a woman’s restroom. Because that is what would, somehow, happen.

          • Chris

            Thanks for that. Buck Angel looks like a very masculine dude while Jazz Jennings looks like what she is, a feminine woman. I hope they both are happy in their new life and do well.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Not a fail. I would bet that in most cases you wouldn’t be able to tell a transgender was a transgender at all.

          • Amos Moses

            really not the point ……….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            It’s exactly the point. I asked how this is supposed to be enforced; you said, among other things, that people would be reporting those they suspected of using the “wrong” bathroom. If you can’t tell if someone is a transgender person in the first place, how would that person ever be suspected?

            Or for that matter, what if, say, there’s a woman, who, while not transgender, happens to get mistaken for a man? I’ve heard of that happening, the woman was harassed for using the women’s room.

          • Amos Moses

            that is why a policeman would be called to INVESTIGATE ….. your objections are noted ….. and so is your obtuseness …..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I’m obtuse? You’re the one completely missing, and not even acknowledging, my main point here. I’ll repeat it….

            If you can’t tell if someone is a transgender person in the first place, how would that person ever be suspected?

          • Amos Moses

            “If you can’t tell if someone is a transgender person in the first place”

            false premise …… but also WHY there would be an INVESTIGATION ………. IF THEY WERE SUSPECTED ……… ummmmmm ….. DUUUUUH!

          • Amos Moses

            “I’m obtuse? ”

            OH YEAH …… just as you cannot tell if a person is a thief but he ACTS in a way to draw SUSPICION and is INVESTIGATED because he was reported ……. again ………. DUUUUUH ….

          • Ambulance Chaser

            What? No, the state has to have probable cause to suspect you actually committed a crime before you’re charged with it.

          • Amos Moses

            and is that NOT what i just said ……… ummmm ….. DUH! ………….

        • Amos Moses

          “Just by looking at them?”

          every person, EVEN A CHILD, is smart enough to know when it is and is not appropriate ……. see something, say something …… stranger danger …… you are just being obtuse …………..

    • Malleus

      You can’t tell a man from a woman?

      Gee, that’s sad. A three-year-old can, but you can’t.

      How old are you?

      • TheKingOfRhye

        If you’re going to sit there and tell me you can always spot a transgender person, you’re either lying or just ignorant.

        • Malleus

          Anyone can spot a trannie from a mile away, just as gays and lesbians are easily spotted. If you hung around normal men and women, you would understand.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Google “Buck Angel” and tell me you would think that person was born female.

            I’ve personally met transgender people who I didn’t know were transgender till someone told me so. As to the rest of your comment….no.

  • Jenny Ondioline

    Great then, won’t it be nice to see a woman who is transitioning to becoming a man and who looks for all the world like a man, complete with beard and moustache, walking into a woman’s washroom and making everyone uncomfortable who will think a man has just walked in? Even though the birth certificate will show woman?

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      Stop being bored. Do that in North Korea or Saudi Arabia instead of the USA to make a point. Liberals are cowards.

      • Johndoe

        We’re talking about the USA. What does cowardice have to do with this

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          You guys should stop cross-dressing and making Americans suffer.

          • antifasciste

            More imagined persecution.

          • Amos Moses

            you are here persecuting “transwhatevers” with lies …… nice ………

          • Johndoe

            Wow! The last time did that was…..never. Again, where do you come up with this stuff?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I get news from my Christian friends living in the Western nations. It’s horrible that American Sodomites have so much power on earth. May God halt the American Sodom for the sake of global children. Pervs only exploit children. You guys need Christianity to be sane and good.

          • Johndoe

            Gays have all the same rights as everyone else has in America.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            That’s what’s wrong about today’s gay West’s culture. Homosexuality is a sin and abnormally immoral. Everyone should have a right to reject to serve any immoral causes. Ex-christian West lives for immorality, and that’s why they oppress all normal people and endanger children. Westerners are neither good or smart if they do not adhere Judeo-Christian values. You only have Roman/Greek porn stories as your original values. Post-christian is the most tragic civilization.

          • Johndoe

            Nobody is being oppressed.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Unborn children are being murdered because of inconvenience, and the Christians are jailed and fined for opposing homosexual immorality. Today’s USA has no justice or liberty for all. The West needs Judeo-Christian values to do what is right.

          • Are they unborn or are they children?

            A child is over 1 year old.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Human life starts at conception. Once before, you were a child in your mother’s womb. Don’t support the murder of your fellow fetus.

          • No, a child is a human offpsring that has been out of the womb for a year.

            As for murder….can we obligate a mother to donate her organs to her two-year-old?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. The human being in mother’s womb is a child, too. No one’s death should be caused for the sake of organ donation. Some grown-ups give up life to rescue the children’s life. It’s case by case. Each life should be lived out as given by God. Humans should do the very best to live and let live. No evil calculation.

          • Still waiting for whether we can compel them…it’s a simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            God commanded His people to testify the truth whether people listen or not, because His truth prevails anyway. Read Isaiah 40.

          • I’m interested in what *you*, Grace Kim Kwon think though.

      • Jenny Ondioline

        Why are you sitting there calling me names? My point is valid. Someone who looks like a man using a woman’s restroom whose birth certificate shows they are female is complying with this new law and it’s going to cause problems, didn’t you think of this before?

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          ? I didn’t call you names. Women should dress like women and men should dress like men.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            And if you have a woman’s body but feel that you are actually a man inside, where does that leave you?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Any girl can be a tomboy, and enjoy imagining what she’d do if she was a boy. Anyone would do such things as a child imagining to be living in a different era or different places or being in a different post such as a space pilot or a princess, but not this. Normal people do not claim a falsehood to live it out. I’d live in accordance with my race and gender and whatever given and assigned by my Creator God. Immoral cultures make people claim transgenderism because it is a perversion and a rebellion against the Creator God. People need Christian education to be truthful.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            This issue is more than being a “tomboy”.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            People must live out God’s creation design. Period. No crossing of gender or species. It simply is a falsehood. Today’s secular Western culture prohibits living out the truth by forcing people to endorse other people’s sinful falsehood, and that is evil tyranny, religious persecution, and a slavery. The Western white pervs well know that people are hopelessly tamed once God’s truth and the clear Christian conscience is bent.

            Woe is upon those who worship the Western money. You guys are horribly regressing after 500 years, a shame to all noble white fathers and mothers. Having everything for the longest time in the cozy Christendom caused mental illness among the playboys and playgirls. Wake up. Stop harming global children. No more slavery to Western pervs. The world has rights to the onjective truth and morality.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I don’t think you’re medically qualified to make statements like those. I will let medical science decide what is best.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Western experts are bent on Sodomic depravity. They can’t be trusted. I mean, how do we know they are not lying unless they have a Christian conscience or their first spouses intact and their own children to protect? They’d do anything for a false gain by sacrificing the mass, unless there are exceptions like Snowden, but such exceptions are too few. There is no trustworthy virtues in Non-christian ideologies. Non-christian Westerners worship money like the Third Worlders do and get away. I feel sorry for all of your Christian ancestors.

          • Hmm…which bathroom should intersex people use? Note: Intersex, not NB.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            They should make third bathrooms for anyone’s use to protect the normal majority. Childless pervs think everything is just funny, but the culture is destroying childhood, boyhood, girlhood, manhood, and womanhood, and it is endangering all women and children. All men who are just watching the process should be ashamed of themselves. Western whites should never have applied racial equality upon sexual depravity.

          • Umm…I’m talking about intersex people which is as normal as red hair…in the strict sense of normal.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            It’s weird the Western culture places the preferences of sexual pervs and mentally il people over the rights of normal and moral people this century. It’s a new way to enslave mankind with filth and falsehood. Western nations commit mega evils each time they oppose the Holy Bible simply because the Western whites are rich and powerful. What a stupid way to be oppressed for mankind after all the Christian whites’ battles and accomplishments for the truth and freedom and equality for the last 500 years. Today’s secular whites got totally lost by putting the colored people in the same category with sexually depraved or mentally ill people. Get rid of your racism by reading the Holy Bile and getting back sanity. The Western immorality is hurting the Western children the worst.

          • Intersex people. It is a biological fact in the same way that red hair is. Which bathroom do intersex people use?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You guys should stop thinking about sexual abnormality and become good sons and good daughters to your parents.

          • Intersex is a medical condition. So…which bathroom do they use?

          • My parents are proud when I think for myself. Aren’t yours?

    • Amos Moses

      “won’t it be nice to see a woman who is transitioning to becoming a man and who looks for all the world like a man,”

      and yet not a man and NEVER will EVER be a man …. just a grotesque joke on herself …….. s/he has not Christ ….. but desperately needs Him ……….

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Sadly, the society spoiled the people like her by upholding falsehood instead of the truth.

      • Jenny Ondioline

        That’s your opinion.

        The point is, before anyone made a big deal out of this, no one noticed because everyone who looked the part used the restroom they felt most comfortable with. Laws like this one are just going to make people scream louder because they are going to THINK people are using the wrong washroom.

        • Amos Moses

          again …. not an opinion … BIOLOGY is not an opinion ………….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The issue isn’t biology.

          • Amos Moses

            it most certainly is … and as i have said …. you reject truth ……..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The issue has a very important mental component, and I don’t know why you would like to pretend it’s not there.

    • Croquet_Player

      You know what’s going to be very funny? When a trans person who looks like the Marlboro Man strides into a women’s restroom, uses it, and and subsequently gets arrested. And then when their paperwork shows they were born female, they sue the state for unlawful arrest and win. In fact for all the idiotic and pointless hassle this bill is going to put trans people through, I think they should make a point of it. Pick up some hefty chunks of cash, and put the idiocy of this bill on display.

      • Jenny Ondioline

        No one ever told these people “be careful what you wish for”.

  • Jason Todd

    Good stuff, Maynard!

  • Croquet_Player

    There is no way this can be enforced. Honestly, the sheer stupidity of these lawmakers is jaw-dropping. Where, exactly, do they think trans people have being relieving themselves all along? I hate to beak it to these dolts, but they’ve been unknowingly using bathrooms with trans people, without incident, for many, many years. Everyone has. And that’s not going to change either.

  • C_Alan_Nault

    America needs to end this perversion. One Nation Under God

  • Fur Hunter

    Because of this ridiculous bill, does this mean everyone is supposed to carry around a notarized and legitimate birth certificate? I swear, the Republicans you MORONS place in office are costing you a fortune in tax dollars. And with the court cases that will result, will cost you even more. That money could have been used on the educational system in the state, so that maybe some of you would become educated and understand certain issues with factual information, instead of listening to stupid, ignorant words spouted from a pulpit. You get what you deserve. You can’t fix STUPID.

    • Chris

      Maybe it’s seen as a chance to beef up the state’s coffers. As everyone is madly hunting round in their pockets, purses, etc for their birth certificate some people will find they can’t hold it in any more and then they can be fined.