Liberty University, Liberty Counsel Named in Lesbian’s Lawsuit Over Ex-Partner’s Escape From Country With Daughter

Miller and Isabella

Liberty University and the religious liberties organization Liberty Counsel have been named in a revived parental kidnapping lawsuit that had been placed on hold while one of the defendants in the case was on trial.

“We were surprised to learn that we’ve [been] brought back into a case that we’ve previously been dismissed out of,” David Corry, general counsel for Liberty University, told The News & Advance.

Janet Jenkins had originally filed the RICO lawsuit in 2012, but it was paused until after the trial of Philip Zodhiates, a Virginia businessman accused of driving Jenkins’ former partner, Lisa Miller, to New York State, where she and her daugher Isabella soon traveled into Canada and then flew to Nicaragua to go into hiding.

As Zodhiates was found guilty last September, U.S. District Court Judge William Sessions allowed the case to move forward on Monday, and with an expanded listing of defendants. (Read the order here.) Liberty University had been dismissed from the case in 2013, but was re-listed in part due to alleged involvement by law professor Rena Lindevaldsen, who also works with Liberty Counsel.

“[Plaintiffs] seek to join Liberty University, an institution that the court had previously dismissed from the case for lack of personal jurisdiction, arguing that the evidence adduced at Zodhiates’ trial and in discovery so far provides new grounds for a different jurisdictional ruling,” the suit states.

However, Liberty University and Liberty Counsel dispute that they are affiliated with one another and state that the university itself had nothing to do with the matter. Liberty Counsel Founder Mat Staver is also named in the suit as “Plaintiffs assert that Zodhiates was in contact with both Lindevaldsen and Staver on the day that he drove Miller to the border in order to flee the country.”

“Lindevaldsen and Staver, Miller’s attorneys during her custody dispute, were both personally involved in Miller’s efforts to leave the country in order to avoid a Vermont court’s orders, and that they acted on behalf of both Liberty University and Liberty Counsel in doing so,” it claims.

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Staver denies the allegations, and says he was not aware that Miller was planning on fleeing the country.

“Anyone can make any allegation, and that’s what this complaint does; it makes absolutely outlandish allegations that are completely false,” he told reporters last week. “We had no knowledge, we had no information, and at the end of the day, that’s what we’ll present. And at the end of the day, there’s nothing that would show otherwise.”

As previously reported, Miller, who had previously been in a civil union with Jenkins, was granted complete custody of her child by the courts when the two legally split, but Jenkins was allowed visits with the girl. Miller, who became a Christian following the separation, soon sought to discontinue contact as she did not want her child around the homosexual lifestyle since she had turned from lesbianism and was now raising her child in the ways of the Lord.

Jenkins has said that she is determined to do “anything and everything” to get the child, now 14, back. Jenkins has moved on to “marry” another woman, and they raise a two-year-old together.

The situation began in 2000, when Lisa Miller joined in a civil union with lesbian Janet Jenkins in the state of Vermont, one of the few states that allowed homosexual arrangements at the time. Following an artificial insemination procedure from a male sperm donor, Miller gave birth to a girl, named Isabella, in 2002.

But Miller said she had concern even then.

“There were numerous incidents of Janet going to [the Internet] and putting up naked women on the screen saver, and I would ask her to please change it,” Lisa later told the court, according to the Washington Post.

“I don’t have clean hands, either. Previously, before … the baby was born, [pornography] was used in our relationship,” she said. “When we moved to Vermont, Isabella was 4 months old, and I said this stuff has to go … There’s a baby in this house now. I don’t want that.”

In 2003, Miller and Jenkins split over continued tension in their relationship, part of which involved the miscarriage of Miller’s second pregnancy, and Miller moved to Virginia. She renounced her involvement in homosexuality and reportedly turned to Jesus Christ to be born again.

“It wasn’t a struggle,” she recalled of walking away from the homosexual lifestyle. “I felt peace.”

When the civil union between Miller and Jenkins was officially dissolved, the court gave custody to Miller, while also granting visitation rights to Jenkins.

While Miller did allow Isabella to spend time with Jenkins for a while, she reportedly became concerned at the information that her daughter was providing to her following the visitations.

Later, Miller claimed in affidavits that the visits were causing great trauma to Isabella. She claimed that at six years old, the girl was forced to take baths together with Jenkins, and that the girl was openly touching herself inappropriately. She also stated that Isabella was withdrawn and talked about suicide at times.

“Isabella came home and said, ‘Mommy, will you please tell Janet that I don’t have to take a bath anymore at her house,’” Miller told reporters in 2008. “I asked her what happened. She said, ‘Janet took a bath with me.’ I asked her if she had a bathing suit on. ‘No, Mommy.’ She had no clothes on and it totally scared Isabella. She had never seen this woman except once in 2 ½ years and she takes a bath with her.”

“Last year, Isabella put a comb up to her neck and said she wanted to kill herself after one of the visits,” she outlined. “She took a comb and pressed it into her neck and said, ‘I want to kill myself.’ I don’t know where she got that. It was immediately after a visit. Other people have seen huge changes.”

Miller then filed for exclusive custody of Isabella, and the court agreed. She told the Washington Post, “I don’t see Janet as a parent, first and foremost. Secondly, I don’t want to expose Isabella to Janet’s lifestyle. It goes against all my beliefs. I am raising Isabella to pattern herself after Christ. That’s my job as a Christian mom. Homosexuality is a sin.”

However, Jenkins fought the ruling all the way up to the Virginia Supreme Court, which in 2008, ruled in favor of granting Miller’s former lesbian partner visitation rights. Miller refused.

The following year, family court judge Richard Cohen warned Miller that she must allow Isabella to visit Jenkins and threatened that if she did not do so, he would transfer full custody to Jenkins. In November 2009, Cohen followed through with his threats and ordered Miller to hand the child over to Jenkins.

However, Miller had fled the country with Isabella before he issued the transfer order, and for some time, none knew the whereabouts of the two. It was later discovered that they had fled to Nicaragua via the help of a number of Mennonite Christians and their contacts.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which is known for classifying a number of Christian organizations as “hate groups,” is assisting Jenkins with the civil suit.

“The court has given the green light to a full exploration of Liberty Counsel’s role in the kidnapping of Isabella, as well as the role of the Liberty Counsel lawyers,” Deputy Legal Director David Dinielli said in a statement. “We are pleased the court recognized that our allegations suggested ‘significant wrongdoing’ by these lawyers, including Mat Staver, and we will move swiftly to learn more about their wrongdoing and to hold everyone involved in the kidnapping to account.”


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  • Michael C

    Liberty University and Liberty Counsel dispute that they are affiliated with one another and state that the university itself had nothing to do with the matter.

    So, they guy who helped transport this woman and her daughter over the border into another country is actually the father of a Liberty University staff member and he made cell phone calls to someone at Liberty Counsel and Liberty University after successfully aiding in the kidnapping?

    …and the woman’s lawyer at Liberty Counsel was also the Dean of Liberty University’s law program?

    Yeah, their lawyers can say whatever they like but Liberty University and Liberty Counsel are clearly affiliated with one another and there’s evidence that the university itself was involved in this matter.

    • Jason Todd

      is actually the father of a Liberty University staff member and he made cell phone calls to someone at Liberty Counsel and Liberty University after successfully aiding in the kidnapping?

      This is speculation and proves nothing.

      Yeah, their lawyers can say whatever they like but Liberty University and Liberty Counsel are clearly affiliated with one another and there’s evidence that the university itself was involved in this matter.

      Can you provide proof?

      • Mark0H

        Of course not, he’s just blowing smoke like they always do. Probably peeved because he didn’t get any last night. When they old and unattractive and alone, they get real mean.

        • Johndoe

          Does mommy know you’re on her computer?

      • Ambulance Chaser

        No, that’s what the discovery process is for. You make your allegations then assemble your evidence, then prove them.

      • Michael C

        This is speculation and proves nothing.

        No, sorry. It is a fact that the man who aided Miller in crossing the border with her daughter into Canada is the father of a Liberty University staff member. It is a fact that he made calls to phones registered to Liberty Counsel after aiding in the kidnapping of Isabella. And it is a fact that Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel was also the Dean of Liberty University’s law program.

        I don’t think speculation means what you think it means.

        • Jason Todd

          Provide evidence or shut your piehole.

          • Michael C

            In your own words, please explain for what exactly you’d like me to provide evidence.

          • Jason Todd

            In other words, you have nothing, and you are dodging to keep from revealing that.

            All we have here is another example of Michael C talking out of tuchis.

            Let me put this on the table: Janet Jenkins is sick. All she wanted to do was use Isabella as a sex toy. God only knows whatever she is doing to that two-year-old.

            There is only one reason why people want to see Lisa Miller prosecuted along with those who helped her: Because the other person involved is a lesbian. Nothing else matters, including the fact Janet was sexually abusing Isabelle.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            There is no evidence anywhere of the child being abused sexually. Janet Jenkins raised this child and it makes no sense that she would use her own child to derive sexual pleasure, and no other references to this story say anything of the kind.

          • james blue

            I believe I’ve asked this of you before and was unable to get an answer, but if the exact same situation occurred with a heterosexual couple where the male parent couldn’t father a child because he’s sterile, so they used a sperm bank, would you side with the mother if she left the country to deny court ordered joint custody/visitation rights to the male parent?

            What if the situation with the people in the article was reversed and it was the lesbian mother who gave birth who fled to deny the non biological mother who converted to Christianity visitation?

          • Johndoe

            More opinion or do you have something to back up that statement? Oh wait, you blocked me due to being afraid of debate…LOL!

          • Johndoe

            No proof of Isabelle being abused

          • Mandroid

            That is incorrect. There is an arrest warrant outstanding for Jenkins. She repeatedly defied the orders of a judge and was about to lose custody for having done so.

            so now she has disappeared into Nicaragua (they haven’t been seen in years) without a means of supporting herself and with false identities. Just great for the child. Oh, and they are completely disconnected from extended family.

          • Jason Todd

            That is incorrect. There is an arrest warrant outstanding for Jenkins. She repeatedly defied the orders of a judge and was about to lose custody for having done so.

            1) Jenkins should be arrested.

            2) Everything you said disregards the facts of the case, as laid out within the above story and by myself.

            You have no credibility.

          • RWH

            It was Miller who defied the orders. Jenkins was about to get custody.

          • RWH

            I think that you have the people backwards. It was Miller who had the arrest warrant. She is the one who fled to Nicaragua.

          • RWH

            Court transcripts show otherwise. Isabella would say one thing when her mother was present, and then she would say something completely different when she was interviewed by case workers without her mother present. Evidence shows that she was being coached in her answers. That’s why Jenkins prevailed. It’s a case of two parents putting the kids right in the middle of a nasty divorce/custody battle.

          • Johndoe

            What a joke mr blocker has become! LOL!

    • Johndoe

      For you, nah.

  • David Stoneslinger

    You don’t need the wisdom of Solomon to determine who is the more fit mother of the child. To the one still in the lesbian lifestyle, the kid is just an object to fight over. Given the large number of gays and lesbians who adopt children and then sexually abuse them, it makes no sense that they should be allowed to adopt, ever. Children are too precious to be put at risk. Wanting a child just because normal couples have children is not a valid motivation.

    • Michael C

      Given the large number of gays and lesbians who adopt children and then sexually abuse them,…

      If you’re going to disparage an entire minority population, you’re gonna have to provide some evidence for your claims. If you think that gay parents statistically sexually abuse their children at higher rates than straight parents, you’re gonna have to give us some facts and figures.

      There are some rotten gay people, just as there are some rotten straight people. There are large numbers of straight parents who sexually abuse their children. I don’t judge all straight people on this fact because that would be bigoted.

      • Jason Todd

        If you’re going to disparage an entire minority population, you’re gonna have to provide some evidence for your claims.

        NAMBLA. Done.

        There are some rotten gay people, just as there are some rotten straight people. There are large numbers of straight parents who sexually abuse their children. I don’t judge all straight people on this fact because that would be bigoted.

        So…are you calling David a bigot?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Saying “NAMBLA” is not making an argument. Nor is it answering his question.

        • Jenny Ondioline

          NAMBLA. And you’re serious too, I bet.

        • james blue

          So all or the majority of homosexuals are members of or agree with that group?

        • Johndoe

          Yes

        • David Stoneslinger

          Not to worry. Their insults mean nothing.

          My policy is to ignore the trolls. They want Christians to waste time on them. It is not good stewardship, so I never reply.

          • Jason Todd

            Sooner or later, they will say it. I am not surprised, to be honest.

      • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

        You’re so good with debate, but you didn’t post figures. You say some gay people are rotten. That’s true. Some are. All the rest are too.

        • This style 10/6

          That is a vile state of mind.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            The men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet? Yeah, pretty vile.

          • This style 10/6

            I get it you hate homosexuals. How about lesbians? Got a hate on them too?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            He has stated that homosexuals should be killed, on this very forum.

          • This style 10/6

            Lordy! That is extreme hate indeed.

          • Johndoe

            Uneducated opinion at best.

          • Jason Todd

            Ever notice homosexuals and homoapologists always defend other homosexuals in matters of sexual abuse?

            Why do you think that is?

          • Johndoe

            I truly think that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            I know what you’re thinking, but you should come out and say it boldly. They make it their business to fulfill scripture: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

          • Jason Todd

            What, that I believe homosexuals not only practice the sexual abuse of children, but also openly advocate it, as evidenced by the fact there are organizations around the world (according to Wikipedia) that do exactly that and the membership are exclusively homosexual?

            What’s sad is the apologists know about this, and intentionally turn a blind eye to it.

          • james blue

            Where has anyone defended sexual abusers?

        • Johndoe

          Nope. But those like yourself who falsely accuse are rotten.

        • SFBruce

          It is you who made the inflammatory and unsupported claim that gays disproportionately abuse children. That means the onus is on you, not Michael to defend it.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Whine much?

          • Jason Todd

            I have had homosexuals tell me flat out homosexuals do not sexually abuse children, only normal people do. That’s a bald-faced lie.

    • james blue

      Look up “Hana Grace-Rose Williams”

    • Johndoe

      Where do you come up with this stuff?? LMAO!

    • james blue

      WOW, they removed a counter comment pointing to Christian adoptive parental abuse.

      • Luminous

        Prove it.

    • Johndoe

      Proof of large numbers of gays abusing adopted children? The overwhelming majority of people abusing children are straight white males who usually know their victim

      • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ David Cary Hart

        Mommy’s boyfriend is the greatest threat to children

        • Luminous

          Daddy’s boyfriend will infect the children with AIDS – that is, if Daddy hasn’t already done it.

        • Johndoe

          Absolutely

  • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

    Parental kidnapping: taking your own children out of the reach of the state.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      No, defying a court order and taking your children out of the reach of their other parent.

    • james blue

      Do you think the state has any role when it comes to child custody?

      if the situation with the people in the article was reversed and it was the lesbian mother who gave birth who fled to deny the non biological mother who converted to Christianity visitation would you want child out of reach of the state?

      • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

        I’m content to wait for the actual case. You want to proceed to a hypothetical case when we have a real life flaming injustice. The judge should lose his head over this. And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          What injustice would that be?

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Is that a question that adds no value? Do you always ask questions without saying anything of value?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I’m asking you to explain your own statement. The fact that you think it “has no value” doesn’t mean that’s the case.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Why are you asking me to explain my statement? Why do you believe that the fact that I think a quote doesn’t mean that the former is stated as the antecedant? If that meant anything, would I be like you?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            It was a simple question. You said there was a “flaming injustice.” I asked what it was.

            I’m still waiting for that answer.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You really don’t have anything to say. Why are you here?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Objection: begging the question. I have plenty to say, it just that you continuously refuse to talk to me like a civilized person.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You are here to reject the Christian basis of civilization. You even bring a sock puppet to vote you up, because you are not civil.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Excuse me, but please don’t tell me what my intentions are. I don’t tell you what yours are.

            I’m here to discuss topics with people who I expect to disagree with me, but I expect that those people will at least make an honest effort to, at the very least, ACTUALLY do that very thing. (Most times, such as right now I’m disappointed in that.)

            And finally, I don’t know if you don’t know what a sock puppet is or are simply factually wrong, but I don’t use sock puppets.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Why do you think you are making an honest effort? (I ask only because you ask questions like this… and that’s all you do.)

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I have to keep asking questions because you don’t answer them.

            (And no, I’ve never asked a question like that. I’m a lawyer, not a therapist.)

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You ask questions that do not need to be asked, nor answered.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            That’s your opinion. I disagree.

            I ask questions because I want people to back up their statements, an unfortunate rarity around here.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            In response to the above you would ask, “Why do you say it is rare?” Your words (finally) actually say something, so I’m not going to ask. Your statistical opinion is not interesting.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Again, no I wouldn’t, and I would very much appreciate if you would stop attempting to act like me. You’re doing a terrible job of it, and presuming that I’m some sort of ELIZA-based chatbot.

            Now, are we going to have a discussion about this topic, or not?

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Why do you say I’m doing a terrible job? 😄

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Okay, the question was, “What injustice on the part of the court has occurred?”

            If you can’t, or won’t, answer it, I guess we’re done, but not in a “van Heerden wins” kind of way. Rather, I will just conclude that you either can’t support your own position or aren’t mature enough to converse with people who are not predisposed to agreeing with you.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            That’s a stupid question. If you think it’s all justice and light, then say so.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I think that to my knowledge, there’s no decision the judge made in this case that was legally incorrect or that I disagree with.

            Apparently, you do, so, for about the fifth time, what is it?

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You are not claiming justice, merely questioning injustice. I have not been unfair in saying that you have nothing to say.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I have plenty to say, but you’re not giving me the opportunity to say it. If you tell me what the injustice is that you see, I’ll tell you why I believe you’re wrong.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You poor thing. You believe I’m wrong, even without complete information.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            So why don’t you provide “complete information” and then we can discuss it? Instead of this ridiculous side-discussion about who said A, does B, and doesn’t do C?

            You know, as I’ve been asking you from the beginning?

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            I didn’t make you stupid. I cannot fix you. You’re going to hell, because you desperately want to. Now you ask “why do you say” followed by some snippet of this.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I would strongly question who has the right to call who “stupid” since you’re the one who

            A) either can’t or refuses to support his own position; and

            B) repeatedly, and against abundant evidence to the contrary, accuses me of acting like an ELIZA-style chatbot.

            But, since you have been given ample opportunity, multiple times, to support your own position–or actually, in this case, just to state what that position is–and you have failed to do so, I’m dropping my end of the rope.

            I can only conclude that you don’t actually have an answer, which is pretty sad since it really wasn’t a difficult question. Expanding on a topic that YOU yourself raised really should be fairly easy to do.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            You said all of this already. You don’t seem to have anything of substance to say on the actual topic. I submit that your “debate” is completely limited to misdirection and offering rope to hang. Your rope isn’t tied to anything except that millstone around your neck. You may as well let it go.

          • Chris

            So I was right. You can’t back up your claims. Hence the reason why you’re spending so much energy dodging and insulting.

          • Chris

            In dealing with Mister van Heerden I believe the operative phase is ‘don’t feed the trolls’. Something I have been guilty of if not yourself. I suggest we leave this troll to his own devices.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Oh, I am. I’m done with this ridiculous line of discussion, but I wanted to make it absolutely clear that it wasn’t because I considered myself beaten, but rather because I’ve given up all hope of him having any type of sane, mature discussion in good faith.

          • Chris

            “You poor thing. You believe I’m wrong, even without complete information.”

            I would say the reason you won’t answer the question is you know you have insufficient justification for your claims.

            Let’s face it. Most of the posts I’ve seen on this thread are you making claims, refusing to back them up, and then dodging like crazy.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Is that so? (Observe my perfect technique of asking a question in the style that substitutes for “debate” by people/bots having nothing of substance to say.)

          • Chris

            I can’t help but notice you’ve dodged the question yet again. You know, if you put as much energy into research as you do into dodging questions you’d be one of the most knowledgeable people on the planet.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Why do you say I’m dodging the question?

        • james blue

          While that’s a total cop out it really gives us the answer.

          • http://www.gmail.com/ David van Heerden

            Indeed it does. You wish reality was not so clear cut.

        • Jason Todd

          The judge should lose his head over this.

          I agree wholeheartedly. In the face of the sex abuse allegations and a psychiatrist who backed them up, the judge deliberately chose to ignore those allegations and made a ruling based wholly on politics and not the best interest of the child. For that, he should be removed from the bench.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Christian establishments must fight for children’s rights and safety. All children have rights to purity, innocence, and morality. Exposure to homosexuality is a child-abuse. Sodomic Western culture prohibits purity and morality and harms children.

  • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ David Cary Hart

    Staver can say anything (and usually does). In point of fact while Zodhiates was en route to Canada with the Millers he made at least two calls to cellphones in Orlando and Virginia registered to Liberty Counsel. They are going to prove those calls were made to Staver.

    As for the separation of entities, at that time Stave was the Dean of Liberty U’s law school. In this context, they are responsible for the actions of their employee.

    This thing is going to drag on for a very long time. At its conclusion Mr. Staver will no longer be licensed to practice law I suspect.

    • Luminous

      Tell us your melodrama about the group of Christians who shot you in the back.

      Nothing like an elderly homosexual amusing an audience with her tall tales.

      • Mandroid

        David’s blog is one of my reads each day. I do not think that he has never accused Christians of having shot him. I do not think that he has accused anyone (I cannot be sure). Where are you getting that from? There was a link to a piece in the NY Times which I cannot find at the moment but he was shot in the back. According to him, point-blank with a .45.

        To describe a violent crime as a melodrama is callous. Using female pronouns to refer to a gay man should have ended after junior high.

    • Jason Todd

      In point of fact while Zodhiates was en route to Canada with the Millers he made at least two calls to cellphones in Orlando and Virginia registered to Liberty Counsel. They are going to prove those calls were made to Staver.

      They have to prove Zodhiates made those phone calls first. Then they have to prove the phone calls were in relation to the drive to Niagara Falls. Since we both know that is not going to happen, all you have is speculation.

      As for the separation of entities, at that time Stave was the Dean of Liberty U’s law school. In this context, they are responsible for the actions of their employee.

      You have to show 1) Staver was in any way involved in any of this and 2) he was acting as a representative of Liberty University.

      Again, not gonna happen.

      But I have a question, which is relevant: Why on earth do you want people to be punished for keeping a child away from their abuser?

      • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ David Cary Hart

        They have to prove Zodhiates made those phone calls first. Then they have to prove the phone calls were in relation to the drive to Niagara Falls. Since we both know that is not going to happen, all you have is speculation.

        That is already done. They have the cell phone records from the criminal case. Zodhiates did not call Staver with the Millers in his car (dressed as missionaries) en route to escape to chat about the weather. Staver is going to be questioned He is unlikely to add to his troubles with perjury.

        You have to show 1) Staver was in any way involved in any of this and 2) he was acting as a representative of Liberty University.

        Without writing a treatise, the doctrine is respondeat superior — an organization is generally responsible for the acts of its employees if the employee is acting within the scope of employment. It’s biz-law 102. If Staver acts as an attorney, the reasonable inference is that he is doing so in the regular course of business. Remember, this is a civil case. Beyond a reasonable doubt” no longer applies.

        As for your final question there is no evidence whatsoever that the child was abused by Lisa Miller. The child was examined by experts and the judge awarded visitation and subsequently probable custody because Jenkins disobeyed his order.

        • Jason Todd

          They have the cell phone records from the criminal case. Zodhiates did not call Staver with the Millers in his car (dressed as missionaries) en route to escape to chat about the weather.

          Unless there’s also transcripts of the conversations, you have no idea who was spoken to, or the subject. Speculation only.

          Without writing a treatise, the doctrine is respondeat superior — an organization is generally responsible for the acts of its employees if the employee is acting within the scope of employment.

          And no proof of that exists.

          Remember, this is a civil case. Beyond a reasonable doubt” no longer applies.

          Exactly. It’s all about the preponderance of evidence, or what evidence exists. Speculation is not evidence.

          As for your final question there is no evidence whatsoever that the child was abused by Lisa Miller.

          Exactly. There is, however, evidence of sexual abuse, at least on a psychological level, by Janet Jenkins. A psychologist said as much, and the judge chose to ignore it.

          So answer my question, please.

  • Mandroid

    I will be interesting to see who represents Staver. I do not think that he can use Liberty Counsel which means that, finally, he has to actually shell out. That means that he cannot drag this thing out forever like he usually does.

    • Luminous

      Go eat your prunes, maybe you’ll get lucky this year.

      • Mandroid

        Just how insecure ARE you?