Scotland Gives Green Light to Controversial Homosexual Lifestyle Drug

(Christian Institute) Scotland has become the first part of the UK to approve a controversial gay lifestyle drug.

This week, the Scottish Medicines Consortium approved the routine use of pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), a drug mainly intended for men who do not have HIV but are at risk of contracting it through homosexual activity.

The drug, which costs around £450 per patient, per month, has been criticised for condoning promiscuous behavior.

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  • Behold, when it was whole, it was meet for no work: how much less shall it be meet yet for any work, when the fire hath devoured it, and it is burned?
    Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As the vine tree among the trees of the forest, which I have given to the fire for fuel, so will I give the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
    And I will set my face against them; they shall go out from one fire, and another fire shall devour them; and ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I set my face against them.

    • Nick River

      Seriously?, Ezekiel 15? Where God threatens to burn the inhabitants of Jerusalem just to show everyone that he is the Lord? Nice.

      • Seriously confused you are. He had already burned them (after calling them Sodom).

  • Lexical Cannibal

    Things I didn’t think I’d read this week; Christians declare moral objection to an HIV drug.

    Guys.

    Guys.

    Slow down. You’re going to hurt yourselves.

    • AustinRocks

      Now, that is very sad. You went on the internet and read comments by people who don’t think just like you.

      Tsk tsk. I guess some folks better just stay inside their bubbles. It’s scary out here where people aren’t all the same.

      • Lexical Cannibal

        Fascinating. Tell me, did you resort to personal attacks because you failed to come up with an adequate defence for the objection to this potentially life-saving drug, or are your failings merely personal?

        If you’d like to do the work to actually support the flimsy premise of their objection, then I’d be glad to talk about it, differing opinions included. Elsewise, though, I’d rather not waste my time with someone just trying to salt the room.

    • Nick River

      Yes, I’m afraid a lot of these people live in a bubble and believe everything their pastors and their religious community tells them without question. Sad.

  • Tree Kangaroo

    Hey, no matter what it costs, gays should have it. They have a sacred right to sex with the maximum number of partners.

    • Amos Moses

      and all that entails ……….

    • Ginger

      Proverbs 28:26 “He that trusteth in his own
      heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.”
      There is a lot of foolishness going on by
      those that trust their own mind and the agenda of the carnal world.

      • Chris

        Far better to turn off your mind? Or for it to be controlled?

    • Jenny Ondioline

      So all gay people are promiscuous. Gee, wonder why so many want to get married then.

  • james blue

    We should ban blood pressure meds., anti cholesterol meds. etc. because they encourage poor eating habits and lack of exercise.

    Ban viagra and similar meds. because they encourage sexual activity.

    ban flu shots as it encourages people to sneeze on each other.

    • Amos Moses

      they should all please spend all their money on this drug ….. they will then have less to spend on other things ……… like food and rent and being a decent human being ……….

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        So sad. Are the secular authorities try to enslave the people on purpose by making them drug addicts? A nation needs God-fearing healthy descendants to prosper.

      • This style 10/6

        I believe drugs are free in Scotland which has universal health care.

        • Luminous

          No such thing as “free drugs” or “free health care.” Just the government taking money from the healthy to provide services to the unhealthy. If someone broke into my home and stole money to pay a doctor will, that’s considered “theft.” When the government takes my money to pay for some homosexual’s drugs, it’s considered a good thing.

          But it’s still THEFT. Why should decent people pay the bills of immoral trash? That isn’t right.

          • This style 10/6

            Not all sick people are gay and homosexuals are as decent as anyone else. You seem to be a homophobe.

            The US has the the world’s most expensive health care with some of the worst outcomes, unless you are rich of course. For example Canada, which has universal health care has greater life expectancy than the US.

            The government also takes money from you to pay for other peoples’ education and roads that other people drive on. Boy, you are screwed whichever way you turn.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Uh, Canadian here. We have one of the worst health care systems in the world. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

          • This style 10/6

            As a Canadian I say you are talking rubbish. By any criteria, infant mortality, life expectancy and other measures, it is one of the best. I have certainly had excellent care.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You clearly haven’t experienced health care in other parts of the world to compare it to, nor have you most likely had any serious health problems. The system sucks. Six months for an MRI in Ontario. Six months for cancer surgery in Toronto. Broken MRI machines, broken radiation machines, broken oxygen machines, broken respirators. The system is broken.

          • This style 10/6

            You assume a lot. I have experienced health care elsewhere and am a cancer survivor. You are relying on anecdote, I am relying on outcomes which are among the best. Canadian health care is by no means perfect but in my experience it is excellent.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Your own experience is an anecdote. You assume I’ve had no experiences within the system. Unfortunately, firsthand I know how horrible it is, and I know plenty of physicians who are upset with how limited they are in what kind of care they can give their patients.

          • This style 10/6

            Canada is 18th and the US 43rd in life expectancy. Health care is not the only but is a significant cause.

            We can trade anecdotes for ever and they remain that. I can only say that I have had only positive experiences with my health care providers.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You are making the assumption that health care is a significant cause. I beg to differ. Look at the countries that precede us: Monaco, Japan, Singapore, Macau, etc. Do you think they’re particularly known for their health care? How about Hong Kong, where the air pollution is so thick, you can write your name in the dust one hour after a thorough cleaning? There are a lot of factors that come into play with life expectancy, and health care isn’t necessarily one of them. We can argue that genetics, environment, lifestyles, and just plain old the will of God, factor into life expectancy. The fact remains that Canada is doing a horrible job taking care of its patients, and could do a lot better, but they’re too busy third-worlding their patients and allowing inept people to run the system. It’s disgusting and any rational, compassionate person wants to see it changed.

            I wish you health.

          • This style 10/6

            Bugger off to the US then where the will of god has greater play than it does here. You ignore the fact that I said health care is only one factor. You have had bad experiences, I, who have lived longer than you I imagine, have had good ones.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            God has blessed Canada and in many ways we fare better than the US, but health care isn’t one of them. You’re not a doctor, nor do you know how much healthcare is being cut for patients. It’s not just length of years, it’s quality of life. For now, we’re just shuffling off survivors to substandard nursing homes, and admission age is getting younger all the time.

          • This style 10/6

            It hasn’t been cut for me or my wife. I don’t expose my personal affairs here so I won’t go into detail. I will say that the hospital staff here are invariably kind, courteous and highly professional. You, obviously have had a different experience. Unfortunate but don’t condemn the whole system because of it, try to fix your bit.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Doctors are the ones who know best how limited and substandard our system is. Don’t think that I’m saying the US system is better. Under Obamacare, it’s not. It’s worse. However, other parts of the world (Ireland for one) have superior health care systems and shorter waiting times. Tommy Douglas warned long ago that our system was broken but they just keep pushing it forward, not keeping it true to its original tenets which were excellent.

          • This style 10/6

            OK, it’s substandard. Enough is enough!

          • Chris

            “No such thing as “free drugs” or “free health care.” Just the
            government taking money from the healthy to provide services to the
            unhealthy.”

            You mean the way health insurance does?

  • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Wait until they get a load of what the side effects are.

    • Nick River

      Taking any drug may (or, of course, may not) have side-effects, but I’m sure you agree that anything is better (and cheaper!) than contracting HIV.

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        You’re assuming it works.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Something is seriously wrong with today’s Western Europe. The Scots need Christianity to be saved and be moral. Does anyone gain something by making the Western kids drug addicts? None. This evil stupidity must get halted. Post-christian is far worse than Pre-christian. Pre-christian is merely illiterate and barbaric, but the Post-christian is purposefully destructive. Western Europe needs Christian missionaries like St. Patrick. Western white people should live up to the Word of God and their own Christian ancestors to regain life.

  • Luminous

    The dirty little secret of Obamadon’tcare is that it was designed to benefit gay men, who (thanks to their self-destructive lifestyle choices) are often infected with AIDS and other incurable diseases and thus could not obtain insurance. When you write out your big fat checks to the insurance company, be aware that you’re paying for these super-expensive AIDS medications, which the infected people will be taking for the rest of their lives, while they go on to infect thousands of others, to the point that (according to the CDC, which is a pretty reliable source) 1 in 6 of them is infected with HIV. Those of us who are healthy are paying to support these people who are not healthy and who don’t even care if they affect the health of others. The IRS doesn’t allow people the option of NOT having insurance, they now force the non-insured to pay a heft penalty. America is not the land of the free, we are all being forced to subsidize the lifestyles of such people, and this is not freedom, this is slavery. Why should people who behave themselves and live decently have to foot the bills for people who spread disease? This is wrong.

    • Chris

      The dirty little secret of fundies is they don’t accept anyone unless they behave exactly the way the fundies want them too. It’s called thought control. Isn’t that disgusting?

      • Luminous

        Spreading AIDS is disgusting. Forcing decent people to pay for your medications is disgusting. You people clearly don’t care how many lives you destroy with your diseases. You infect your own kind, then force the rest of us to pay your medical bills. Good people footing the bills for trash is just wrong. You should pay your own bills.

        • Chris

          “Spreading AIDS is disgusting.”

          Why? It’s just a disease, like any other disease. It’s neither better or worse.

          “Forcing decent people to pay for your
          medications is disgusting.”

          Two points:
          1) It’s not MY medication since I don’t have AIDS.
          2) Having a disease DOESN’T make you indecent & being without the disease doesn’t make you decent. Is AIDS the new leprosy to you? Should people who have AIDS ring a bell while screaming out ‘Unclean, Unclean’?

          “You people clearly don’t care how many lives
          you destroy with your diseases.”

          You people? Who exactly are MY people? And do you think people acquire AIDS deliberately? That they give themselves a death sentence just to antagonize you?

          “You infect your own kind, then force
          the rest of us to pay your medical bills.”

          Who is ‘my own kind’? I thought ‘my own kind’ were fellow humans. As to forcing anyone to pay medical bills that’s what health insurance does. You all pay into a fund and the sick withdraw from the fund. You don’t seem to understand how the system works.

          “Good people footing the bills
          for trash is just wrong. You should pay your own bills.”

          What is this trash nonsense? Do you look down on all sick people or just sick homosexuals? That’s what people do through TAXES. Remember them?

    • balloonknot9

      So by holding to your own logic, it is better to not give anti-Aids/HIV drugs to prevent infection whether through hetero/homo sex thereby causing more people to need ” super-expensive AIDS medications”. Then of course there are babies who will now be infected and die without getting those “super-expensive AIDS medications”.

      We all want to rid this world of AIDS/HIV and making sure people have the option to take medication to hopefully prevent this, is a step in the right direction.

      • Luminous

        Most AIDS cases in the US are GAY MEN. Pretend it isn’t so if you want to, but the CDC has data to prove it. Why should Christians pay for drugs for men who prey on boys and engage in high-risk sexual behavior?

        • Chris

          Being Gay does not equal child molester. The majority of molested children are little GIRLS who are being molested by heterosexual men. Let’s hear the condemnation of their actions.

  • Chris

    “This week, the Scottish Medicines Consortium approved the routine use of
    pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), a drug mainly intended for men who do
    not have HIV but are at risk of contracting it through homosexual
    activity.”

    You can get AIDS through sexual activity. Heterosexual activity, homosexual activity, both can pass on AIDS. So why is the drug intended for men who may become HIV positive through homosexual activity?