Parents Feel ‘Betrayed’ After Teacher Reads Transgender-Themed Books to Kindergarten Class

ROCKLIN, Calif. — A number of parents in Rocklin, California say that they feel betrayed after a kindergarten teacher recently read two transgender-themed books to students without their prior knowledge.

“My daughter came home crying and shaking, so afraid she could turn into a boy,” one parent stated during a packed board meeting for Rocklin Academy on Monday.

According to reports, the teacher, who has not been publicly identified, read the books “I Am Jazz” and “The Red Crayon” on the second-to-last day of school before summer break. The first book is about teen reality show star Jazz Jennings—a teenage boy who identifies as a girl, and the second tells the story of a blue crayon that was mislabeled red.

No advance notice or opt-out information was provided to parents.

Therefore, when students came home and advised that they had learned about gender identity, with some confused about whether they could transition to the opposite gender, a number of parents contacted the school to express concern.

Principal Jillayne Antoon issued a letter a week later to advise what had transpired in the classroom. She outlined that a student had asked the teacher to read “I Am Jazz” to the class. According to reports, a student who was born a boy but identifies as a girl gifted the books to the teacher. It is not clear if the student who donated the books was the same kindergartener that requested that the Jazz book be read aloud.

“Please be assured that these books are age appropriate children’s books, geared for ages 4-8,” Antoon wrote to parents. “There were no additional discussions with the class about any topic in relation to these books.”

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However, according to CBS News, parents say that the male student changed his clothes at some point during the class and presented himself as a girl.

“I want [my daughter] to hear from me, as a parent, what her gender identity means to her and our family—not from a book that may be controversial,” one parent said on Monday during the board meeting in expressing objection.

However, the teacher defended her decision to read the books to the class.

“I’m so proud of my students,” she said. “It was never my intent to harm any students but to help them through a difficult situation.”

The district also took the position that if the books were not read, it could have placed officials at risk of a discrimination lawsuit.

Fox40 News further notes that Superintendent Robin Stout said that the teacher was not required to provide advance notice to parents because the books are not considered sexual education material.

However, due to the concerns of parents, and the fact that the teacher did not seek prior approval from administrators before reading the book to the class, the district has changed its policy to require teachers to ask for permission first.

“If a book is not part of our curriculum, such as these books, [we ask] that they’d consult with administration,” Stout outlined.

As previously reported, in 1828, just 52 years after the nation’s founding, Noah Webster, known as the Father of American Scholarship and Education, wrote, “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed. … No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”


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  • bowie1

    For controversial material such as this it should be required that no one under 18 years of age should be taught such material. Then as adults they can decide what to read or not to read.

  • Michael C

    Okay, if a book like this is inappropriate for children, what should be done about the actual transgender kids? Should they be excised from the schools along with these books?

    I know what you’re thinking… there’s no such thing as transgender kids. Well, actually, whether you like it or not, there are transgender kids. The schools have no choice in the matter. Some kids are transgender. That’s just how it is. The schools have to deal with it. Explaining the situation and teaching the other children to treat their transgender classmates with the same respect that they are expected to treat everyone else is the best course of action for the schools.

    What is the best way to do this? Maybe with some good ol’ book-learnin’?

    • MCrow

      There’s a general issue with understanding sex and identity in the US. Keep in mind that comprehensive sex-ed is not mandated by every state, and that even then, not usually required until well after kids enter puberty. Sexual identity isn’t usually discussed outside of the classroom, and gender identity is usually unintentionally reinforced by teachers. Personally, I’m for teaching kids about how sex functions in a scientific manner earlier. It leads to better discussion than “oh, the deer is just…helping the other deer up a hill…”

      • Jerome Horwitz

        I am personally for not talking about sex in a school classroom at all, and only speaking about transgenderism to young adults within the context that it’s a mental illness.

        And it is.

        • MCrow

          So you’d prefer kids to not learn about STIs, birth control, why it is that they have these feelings of sexual attraction, how sexual reproduction works, etc? Because you get a choice: they’ll learn about it one way or another, from their teachers, parents, peers, or the internet. Your call.

          Also, transgenderism is not a mental illness according to psychology, and increasingly according to biology and study of brain structures.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            So you’d prefer kids to not learn about STIs, birth control, why it is that they have these feelings of sexual attraction, how sexual reproduction works, etc?

            That’s information that should be given by the parents, as it has been shown public schools cannot be trusted to be honest.

            transgenderism is not a mental illness

            Then there’d be no need to teach it to kindergarten age kids.

          • MCrow

            “…as it has been shown…”

            Proof, please

            “Then there’d be no need…”

            There would, indeed, be no need if parents were open and honest about the possibility of their child being trans. Since people like you deny it is a possibility, and in fact may demand they suppress their nature, then it becomes necessary.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            There would, indeed, be no need if parents were open and honest about the possibility of their child being trans. Since people like you deny it is a possibility, and in fact may demand they suppress their nature, then it becomes necessary.

            This is complete hogwash. If you think this is okay something is severely wrong with you and there’s no need to engage you further.

          • MCrow

            The purpose of education is to provide information. Part of that information is to teach students about themselves and their development. Part of that includes educating LGBTQ individuals about the fact that they are not, in fact, alone. Parents may choose to opt out of sex ed, but that will not stop students from having questions.

            I personally don’t believe in the suppression of information. And again, it’s either the classroom or the internet. If parents refuse to deal with it, I think having as responsible adult as opposed to google is a good choice

          • AnnieHaslam

            You’re as stupid as a box of rocks, Matthew Mason. And a chickenshit as well, blocking everyone who calls you on your idiocy.

          • WaldoWidget

            You’re only fighting with established medical science, that’s all. I guess that’s no big deal to you as long as you’re following your ancient holy texts.

        • Garbage Adams

          Said no medical professional ever.

    • Neil

      No way man. You can’t justify this transgender nonsense by offering any solutions. It’s a load of bs. You are a boy. Or you are a girl. If , as an adult , you want to deny reality … then that is up to you. Look into BPA . A light bulb might come on.

      • Michael C

        Look into BPA . A light bulb might come on.

        Hahaha, Thanks. You made my night. I love the InfoWars-level insanity. Good stuff.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          infowars insanity …. that got that substance banned from a lot of plastic products BECAUSE OF THE SCIENCE ………… so HAHAHA ……… good stuff ……….

    • There is no such thing as transgender regardless of age and if the kids say they are it is because of the screwed up pervert adults in their lives.

      • Michael C

        I know what you’re thinking… there’s no such thing as transgender kids.

      • WaldoWidget

        Teaching children that transgendered people exists is all that is going on here, you fat, bigoted, obnoxious pile of shit.

    • Amos Moses – He>i

      This is the insanity ………. children 4-8 years old …. can BARELY be trusted to cross the street without supervision ….. but we are going to trust that they even know what “transgender” they are and to make THAT DECISION ……. UTTER INSANITY ……. child abuse …. AND pedophilia …..

      • As usual you nailed it.

        • MamaBearly

          The blind leading the blind…

          • You are spiritually blind.

          • MamaBearly

            You know, I might have considered that as a possibility if I didn’t have the LORD directing me in everything I do.
            You are obviously someone who criticizes others without knowing the facts first, because they disagree with you.
            You don’t know me and you have NO CLUE what kind of person I am, nor whether I follow the gospel or not.
            If you had bothered to read any of my posts about spiritual things, you should know that I am very much spiritually able. But you see, you are blind to the mistakes you are making just as the Hebrews were blind to who Christ really was.
            Ask God to open your eyes and give you knowledge and Wisdom while you read the gospel. If you ask properly, he’s promised you he’d give it to you, but it has to be an honest request and there has to be belief that God will show you where you have made your mistake in understanding His Word.

          • If you think it is okay to do what this teacher and others are doing with and to our children then YES……you are spiritually blind.

          • MamaBearly

            What pray tell are they “doing” other than teaching them tolerance for differences? What are they doing except making it so no child is bullied, including your child.
            What they are doing is preparing your child for the future because whether we like it or not, these people are not going to stop existing. If they can’t cope with people who are different they will not make it in the world.
            So take the responsibility of your children as a parent and teach your children and try to teach them and keep tolerance of other people while you are at it.
            I follow God every step of my day, and I am aware of how Christians are about these things by God’s Word. But I do not have to support this, to know, to recognize that it is out of our hands now. It is all over the world and in our laws now. WE HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE. It is a case where you do it, or you and your child will suffer the consequences for it, now or in the future. There is no getting around it unless you put your child into an exclusive Christian school that knows a way to avoid enrolling people who are “different”.
            All I am doing is trying to make you and any other Christian see that we have to find a way but we are not able to do anything until a way is found.
            Direct all your anger towards figuring out a way to achieve what you want to achieve and it will be able to give you much better results to enable you.
            Complaining and have a temper tantrum is a waste of time. It accomplishes nothing. Like rocking on a rocking chair gets you no where fast.

            Make sure you tell the world about this idea to take back the control of the schools.

          • What they are doing is teaching acceptance to sexual immorality and those that condone it are just as guilty as they are.

          • MamaBearly

            No they are not teaching about “sex” if that is what you are implying. They can’t teach them acceptance of anything when it is not shown to them as what you are trying to say they are. All the children know is that their friend is different today than he/she was before. They don’t care about the nitty gritty at a very young age. That doesn’t come until later when hormones start – which can be anytime after age 8.
            Kids could not give two hoots about it but parents can’t stop talking about the harm it is going to do to the other kids, but don’t seem to realize that it won’t be a big thing unless YOU make into a big thing in front of them, or in ear shot of them.
            Parents can stand and bicker and the kids will leave the room quietly to go play without understanding the fuss.
            If you want to deal with your own kids the way you want to, go ahead, and anyone else that wants to can too. It is your child who will suffer, not these children; not the adults you insist have a “plan” when they don’t at all. They just want to be free to live the way they want to. Like the Hippies did in the 60’s and into the 70’s. (I lived then)
            Find a way to work this out without hurting your own kid by doing it. because that is who will end up being hurt if you can’t teach them tolerance.
            I never said I support them, not once. But I am not a stupid person and can see what the situation is and what has to be done if things are to be different.
            And now, I get to sit back and watch as you all stumble around without looking up at God and asking for help. I trust God, but you obviously do not. He wants to provide for us and protect us and if we doubt him then we are not being faithful to God. Just as the Hebrews ignored his statutes, you ignore his Power and Might and His Word, and think that you, a mere mortal, can do anything better than God? Can you make a way when there is no way? God can. He has before, and he will again.
            Try trusting God and ask HIM what to do. He will tell you if you believe he will.

          • No matter how you try to dance around it they are laying the groundwork for acceptance of sexual immorality. Those who do this and those who condone it will stand before a very angry God if they do not cease and repent in the name of Christ Jesus.
            ———————

            Matthew 18:1-9New King James Version (NKJV)

            Who Is the Greatest?

            18 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

            2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Assuredly,
            I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children,
            you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore whoever humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 Whoever receives one little child like this in My name receives Me.

            Jesus Warns of Offenses

            6 “Whoever
            causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be
            better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were
            drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!

            8 “If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it
            from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed,
            rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the
            everlasting fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

          • MamaBearly

            You don’t read what I say either. you expect me to be saying that I support this, and I haven’t ever said that I do.
            You think you can change the world’s view on this, go ahead. I’ll do my best to spread the gospel, because that is my duty to Christ.
            Jesus never told us to try to change the world except by spreading His Word. If you would spread the gospel maybe the world will change, but not by complaining and stomping our feet that we ” don’t like it!!” Non believers just don’t care if we like things they do or not.
            I’ll tell you something. You are wrong about their reasons for helping children to tolerate differences. You are putting the bad impression into it, not them. It has nothing to do with sexuality for the teacher. It has to do with tolerating differences of others. You should not be against that. Jesus surely would want us to be tolerant and LONG SUFFERING towards them.
            You think I will be judged for my being able to see what is going on in Reality instead of making it up as I want to see it?
            You will be judged for the lack of love you have. I know for a fact that that will be way worse to Jesus than trying to encourage others to find another way. To teach our children about god and sin, but that everyone sins, and we are to help sinners not be mean to them. You should be teaching them to love everyone as Jesus told us to. But you won’t because you can’t find it in yourself to love anyone who doesn’t FIT into your own world.
            I can’t believe how many supposed Christians forget the last commandment to love everyone as HE loved us.
            What do you think that means for goodness sake. He did not give exceptions in case you didn’t notice. He meant LOVE EVERYONE not just a few chosen people.
            You are the one not following God’s word, not me. I have NOT agreed with anything you think i have, that is against God’s Word. NOT ONE THING.
            You read my posts again and see that I am being honest. I know you won’t find anything that says I SUPPORT it. Nor is it supporting them to be intelligent enough to step back a step and look at the situation so I can see any solution to the Issue.
            You just bad mouth the sinners because it makes you feel superior and it makes you feel you are justified – when you are not.
            Don’t ever accuse me of going against God’s Word. I follow it better than most of you FUNDIES, and you don’t even believe in following the gospel the way Jesus wanted us to. You believe what you want but try sticking to what Jesus said, not what you believe is the way Jesus wants us to be like.

          • MamaBearly

            So tolerance is not supposed to be taught? because it is against OUR beliefs?
            Well, I don’t know about what you have read in the bible, but Jesus told us to be tolerant of other people. He wants us to love everyone. That alone tells us to be able to tolerate people who are different. who believe differently, who are disabled, or who are immigrants.
            You are dooming your child’s future if you don’t teach them tolerance. They won’t make it in the world being intolerant. Hate the sin, not the sinner – we are supposed to love the sinner. You wouldn’t speak of your sister with the same attitude so you should not be treating anyone that way.
            You are wrong. I don’t condone it. WHY CAN’T YOU PEOPLE READ!!!!!
            So you “Christians” don’t read whole posts, can’t understand what is being posted, but still reply like the post said nothing at all.
            No wonder you don’t understand the gospel. It must be confusing to someone who only reads the parts that he wants to read – which is all the parts about hate instead of love.
            You won’t read my posts and understand them, I will just keep going and teaching others the right way to understand the gospel anyway.
            As long as I am doing what God is leading me to, I know I am doing God’s work, and not man’s selfish ways.
            Walk in the Spirit, not in the Flesh!!

          • MamaBearly

            I never said I thought it was OK. try reading my postssssss again.

      • Garbage Adams

        It isn’t pedophilia. Pedophilia is one thing and one thing only. If a child is not being physically sexually abused, then I’m sorry Amos, you HAVE to find another word to use.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          ignore ………….

          • Jerome Horwitz

            Flag the troll until he goes away.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            easier to just let them know they are being ignored ……..

          • AnnieHaslam

            Flag YOU, you mean? Done.

          • Garbage Adams

            Of course you are. I mean, of COURSE.

          • Roger Greenslade

            Well you can ignore it all you like Amos and in fact I have no doubt you would do anything else, but what he says is correct. You cannot mold the word “pedophilia” to mean things it doesn’t mean.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sexualization of CHILDREN is PEDOPHILIA ……….

          • Roger Greenslade

            Two problems with that answer, first of all it isn’t “sexualizing” children for them to know their gender identity. You could be a little girl who on the inside is a little boy. No sex issue whatsoever. See?

            Second problem is you seem to have a fundamental(ist) problem with the definition of the word “pedophilia”. Go look it up, I’ll wait. It doesn’t mean what you think it does. Unless you can provide a dictionary definition to the contrary.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …………. no concept of reality there …………

          • Garbage Adams

            It doesn’t get more real than the dictionary. No wonder you choose to ignore it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … choose to ignore your comments ….. see … i do not have to block you ….

    • Reason2012

      We know what you’re thinking … there are transgender kids.
      Starting with a false assumption nullifies the rest of your claims.
      There are no transgender kids or transgender people any more than their are transrace kids or transspecies kids. Feelings do not nullify basic biological facts. Mutilating your body does not change biological facts.

      That you defend the clear mental abuse of everyone else’s kids and grandkids says it all – your agenda or promoting the delusion that “feelings trump biological fact” is so important to you, you’re willing to abuse everyone else’s kids and grandkids to attain it.

      This while promoting the contrary agenda of “biological facts trump feelings” when denying counseling to those who do not FEEL like a homosexual anymore, claiming that their feelings do not change the fact they’re homosexual, which of course exposes the lies activists use to make victims out of kids and indoctrinate them.

      Meanwhile this school and teacher needs to be sued for all they’re worth for the obvious mental abuse and attempts to indoctrinate them.

      • MamaBearly

        I did not see Michael C. defend it, rather he said that it is a fact in this world now, whether we as Christians like it or not, and we need to accept that. It doesn’t mean we need to agree, it means to know the world and how to deal with it, when it is going so far off what the Lord wanted.
        Christians should be trying to help the people who are troubled like this.
        Being angry and basically threatening to any one – especially a child – about something they feel strongly about will just make them walk away from you.
        Christians have to realize that we can’t control this situation. It is out of our hands because the law says it is, and God’s law may say otherwise, but we can’t go against the law in this case even for God. He knows that.
        He would not want all Christians to be put into jail instead of trying to help. Jail ties our hands completely, while dealing with our own family is important to God so they have the right examples to follow.
        We aren’t supposed to complain because we are God’s Children and we have the Lord on our side, and complaining about the state of the World is a waste of time because it is only words. If you don’t like the way the world is going, then don’t sit and complain about it DO something to help the people. Helping will make a difference, complaining won’t.
        Making Michael C. sound like he is saying anything more than we have to learn to disagree with this without demeaning anyone, because that is against God’s Word too, but if we are careful. we can still make a difference without getting involved with the law.

        • Reason2012

          I did not see Michael C. defend it,

          Sure he did – the moment he said.

          if a book like this is inappropriate for children, what should be done about the actual transgender kids?

          Admitting he supports putting these ideas in the minds of kids one way or another, as if “something should be done” – nothing should be done. They’re KIDS. But the activists are all about indoctrinating the kids, getting them as young as possible being the most effective way.

          If you cannot even be honest with yourself about his obvious support of it, I don’t know what else anyone can tell you.

          • Michael C

            …he supports putting these ideas in the minds of kids one way or another,…

            No.

            That’s not what I said.

            I said that some school children already have classmates who are gender non-conforming. It’s not about “putting ideas in the minds of kids.” It’s about explaining something that a child is actually encountering in their very real lives, or may encounter in the future.

            In the real world, some kids have gender non-conforming classmates. That’s a fact. I’m talking about that fact. You’re trying to sweep it under the rug.

          • Reason2012

            if a book like this is inappropriate for children, what should be done about the actual transgender kids?

            There you are demanding something needs to be “done”. NOTHING needs to be done. They’re kids. If a kid has mental problems, the parents need to get them help. You don’t instead indoctrinate/abuse everyone else’s kids with the idea that instead it’s normal to pretend you’re something that contradicts basic biology, forcing everyone else to conform to the delusion, while mentally abusing everyone else’s 5 year old kids and grandkids with the disturbing agenda.

          • MamaBearly

            Did you answer his question? I can’t see that as a sign of support, actually. He was seriously asking that if you feel the way you do about the transgender issue, how exactly did you think whether they read a story, or know a transgender child, they could be sheltered from what is going on in the world. It’s not up to them to protect OUR children, it is up to us to teach them our beliefs not the world’s responsibility to hide things that are going on in real life, but against our beliefs. Our faith is what sustains us at times of trouble.
            The Christians that have children and are involved with the transgender issue, have to understand their rights, and their options about their child, or children. We cannot conceive what they must go through if they are faithful. It must break their hearts if they can’t understand it. The sacrifices you make for a child are often beyond any other thing. We have to love God the most and trust him to help us. Believe he will.

            I don’t support it, but I won’t put my opinion on other people either. Everyone has the right to an opinion, whether it agrees with mine or not. They can’t change my beliefs without me letting them. On the other hand, if I behave in a Christ-like manner, they might listen to me where they would not with a different attitude being shown to them.
            I feel anything like that is a one on one thing to make a decision about another person, like that. If we have not experienced what those parents have had to experience, we have no right to judge them as wanting. We also can’t see whether it is an evil intent or not, whereas Jesus can. If it makes a difference to our faith, we need to find another way, but we need to strengthen our faith if it is not strong enough to get through a trial.
            I have no connection to anyone in the various transgender issues. I have no right to judge people on what I cannot know. Media would not hand it out to us, so we miss a lot, heck that part could have been taken out because it needed to be shorter. Happens all the time. So all the information about the Parents attempts before this particular thing happened, we have no idea about. Jesus does know what has happened and what will happen, including whether they pray for his guidance.
            There are just some situations that we can’t DO anything about, and that means we should pray to God for His help, not keep trying to make other people change what has happened, because that is not likely, and it isn’t accepting apparently, for any reason, even to keep a child close. No, unless you have experienced it or was a confident for someone who has, you should not be judging others for the sole reason of your lack of knowledge.
            God is always in control, it is whether or not you trust him that makes the difference to how you feel about things that are out of our human control. There is no if ands or buts about it, God is in Control and he knows what he is doing.

          • Reason2012

            I don’t support it, but I won’t put my opinion on other people either.

            You just did. You, along with other perversion activists, seem insist everyone else’s 5 year old kids and grandkids be exposed to this mentally disturbed delusion, forcing them to accept this as normal that beliefs override basic biological facts every time you try to shut down those of us that point this out.

            Why is it LGBT activists can’t stay away from everyone else’s kids and grandkids?

          • MamaBearly

            I am not supporting it. I am able to see reality whether you like the view of it or not.
            God ahead and try to change it Reason, I’ll watch from here thanks.
            You are not listening to me. FIND A WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT AFFECTING YOUR OWN KID.
            If you won’t listen to me, and try JUST TRY to understand what I have been saying I believe you are smart enough to see the reason behind what I say. It is accepting REALITY not about accepting what the people are doing.
            Why can’t you and Christians stay away from everyone else’s kids and grandkids?
            How is you pushing your beliefs any different than them pushing theirs on us.
            I do not treat people badly no matter what I am forced to endure. I am a representative of our Lord Jesus Christ and you are rebelling against the command to love everyone. All you do is think about sin. his sin, her sin their sin, but do you realize how often you sin when you think about sin?
            If you think God wants us to treat those children like they are worthless because they don’t fit to YOUR own picture of what people have to look like, or behave lik.

      • MamaBearly

        How does anyone indoctrinate them when no one is telling them that they MUST be feeling “wrong”. Teaching about something is not indoctrination to be something they are not. Look at the daughter in the article that was upset about it. She was exposed to it and turned it down. Kids are not taught to feel like this, most actually end up miserable if they do not understand and those are the ones that commit suicide. I can guarantee that God does not want suicides. Even sinners would not be felt that way about by God. He told us many will come to him during the latter days, He knows that some will change and we can’t know who those people are and we can’t put stumbling blocks in front of them.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          i have used the old trick of “pulling off” a childs nose and showing them my thumb between my fingers ….. and they believed it and cried …………. “Teaching about something is not indoctrination to be something they are not.” …… YES IT IS when they have an impressionable mind and do not know what the truth is …………..

          • MamaBearly

            But they do know what the truth is Amos. YOU are the one that doesn’t understand. The children who have no gender dysphoria will not be convinced to be another gender. They will remain as what they are.
            The only children who are going through this are children who don’t understand why they feel like the other gender, not typical children’s imagination.
            That “nose trick” has been done for centuries. If they believe it, they are young enough to not understand because there is NO child of a school age that would believe that you “took” their nose. Because of that, you are the one who is offering a child too young to know better, something that is not true, to believe. Why shouldn’t a young child believe what an adult tells them? Technically, you Lied when you made them feel like you removed their nose.
            Oddly whenever we do that to children, they laugh. They know we are just joking because we don’t act like we are serious, and the children think it’s as funny as we do.
            I’ve never known a child to cry from that: must be the way you do it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “The children who have no gender dysphoria will not be convinced to be another gender.”

            this kid was CONVINCED they did not have a nose …. so WRONG ………

          • MamaBearly

            I told you why, and you didn’t listen or read it.
            Children who are below school age will believe things that Adults do, but by the time they go into school they have more established with what is real and what is not, and it’s how they’ve been exposed to real vs imaginary that would teach them that on it’s own. There is a big difference between a child of less that 4 when they have a nose taken, than a child who is past that stage. Some even catch on even faster and won’t fall for it a second time.
            It all depends on the child.
            I’m guessing you did it to a child of less than 3 or it would not have cried, it would have been curious, not scared. Even younger kids can be like that, but the age is around 3 – 4, just like the average place of growth in a school is the 4th cup and most schools will test children at that time if a higher intelligence is detected by the teachers reports.
            One thing I know is children. From the way you have spoken of children, I think you are an Uncle, rather than a parent.
            That is a different view from a parent. Whether you think you ‘know’ what it is like to be a parent, it’s nothing like an Uncle unless the Uncle raises them. Otherwise, Uncles are great, because they know they can go home and choose the next time to visit again.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignore ……….

          • MamaBearly

            That does not give you a good reputation Amos. People will be less likely to listen to and believe a rude person you know.
            There is a reason for the expression Christ-like and Christ would never speak be rude to anyone whether they are women or men. . not even the Adulteress did he say anything more than Sin no more. He was definitely not rude, even to a sinner.
            Christian-like behaviour is also an expression because that is what is expected of Christians by Jesus.
            You miss so much by listening and not reading for yourself.
            Read the Gospel for yourself, Amos, look for the things I’ve said to be there. I’m sure some of them will stand out if you actually read about them. Read the Gospel and try to prove to me that there is nothing to what I say, even though the scriptures are there for all to read. Without looking, you can’t make an honest post back to me.
            You do want to be honest, don’t you?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……….

          • MamaBearly

            So you think a child who is shown that someone is not a person, but a mustard bottle, that they will believe it, and that they will imitate that behaviour? Sounds silly to me.
            Even a child who is allowed to be transgender, doesn’t believe that Santa is real at the same time other children do. They aren’t intentional intending to feel the way they do and it can be a child of someone who has no understanding of it too.
            What do you do, in this day, to convince them that they are not actually a boy in a girls body. Seems to me, there are no options left for anyone.
            We cannot make children under age leave our house for the sin. Because IT would be a sin in of itself.
            We can’t beat them, (or use a rod on them) or even yell at them because when the child is at a school, it will be found out and it means a complete upheaval of everyone connected to the Parents and children’s lives. Threats to stay quiet can be trumped by someone recognizing the signs of abuse. The kid doesn’t have to say anything unless someone poses a question that they don’t know how to answer except the truth.

            It’s like: Yes or No Only, – Have you stopped beating your child? See what I mean?

            In younger children they may react to a teacher asking why they are sad, thinking they would not tell the parents if they asked them not to. Many kids do not realize the consequences of being taken away from their parents so they can, by your definition, be allowed to be transgender. Telling on a parent ‘to get even’ usually backfires on the child when they are removed from the home, pending investigation. But it is how some children act too. I am not in contact with any children that feel like that so I cannot judge whether it is a valid decision based on all the right reasons, or not. So I can’t have more than an opinion.

            People lose good friends and family when the knowledge of how you abuse a child with hand, rod, does not matter anymore. Even if it found to be not true, people will walk away if they even think it could be true. They will judge you as a parent too.

            Then, you will be put into jail, and possibly lose any child for those years, and the transgender child forever, and that child would not know our influence because we could not tolerate it and use God to help to change it. God does do things like that you know. He promised if we pray for something in his name, and believed that he will fulfill your prayer, he will do it. He’s never failed for me.
            If the parents are Christians, they will ask God to deal with it because it is out of our control. Just like anything we can’t do, asking God will mean it will be done.
            All it takes is belief in God, and His promises.
            You know what, I’ll say again, you have to trust God at times like what these parents are going through. Sometimes prayer is all we can do. It is enough because God will hear us. Unless this child or the parents are people you actually know, there is absolutely nothing you can do for the child in this article except for God to change it, so prayer is the only option for those of us that are not there to support these parents if necessary.
            Otherwise we can discuss it as a sin because of our beliefs but complaining and stomping our feet will not accomplish anything and God told us to go to him for things out of our control.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignore ……

          • MamaBearly

            why are you being rude to me? I was not being rude to you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………….

          • Roger Greenslade

            He took his ball and went home. It’s no loss.

          • MamaBearly

            LOL!! Thanks for the laugh. Always need that when I’m dealing with Amos!!
            God bless! Have a Great day!

          • Roger Greenslade

            There are a few people here who are just….wow. Let’s just say Christian isn’t the first word that comes to mind.

          • MamaBearly

            They are pew Christians or “Fundies” and I too hesitate to call some people here Christians because their attitudes belie the fact and they don’t act like Christians in the way they speak rudely to everyone who doesn’t agree with them.

            I’ve never heard of a Christian like behaviour having those sins – I believe that Christians should always remember they represent Christ in every way and the way they behave makes Christ have a bad reputation. But I guess that Satan has a good hold on them and keeps them ignorant of the Truth. We should pray for them.

            Blessings!

          • Garbage Adams

            At least he didn’t block, as some in their cowardice seem to think is a declaration of victory.

          • MamaBearly

            Don’t be rude, block me if you don’t want to read my replies.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ….

        • Reason2012

          Filling everyone else’s kids and grandkids with images and ideas of homosexuality and transgenderism is indoctrination – they know planting the seed is all it takes to get a % of them, no matter how small, to get caught up in it. Just because there are some that do not doesn’t make it any less indoctrination.

          Why is it these activists cannot stay away from everyone else’s kids and grandkids? So much for the lie that it’s all about ‘wanting to be left alone’ when it was really about finding away to get access to everyone else’s kids and grandkids from some legal standpoint.

          • Garbage Adams

            For it to be indoctrination requires for there to be a doctrine. Homosexuality and transgenderism are not doctrines. They aren’t beliefs. They are scientifically proven facts. So you can’t say anyone is indoctrinated. The word you are looking for is “educated”.

          • Sorry but there is no scientific proof behind anything that is LGBT.

          • Garbage Adams

            There are entire libraries of proof which you are very welcome to refute. With science, of course.

          • Where are these libraries and how many are there?

          • Garbage Adams

            All over the world, start with you local library, Dewey decimal number 612.6.

          • There might be lies but nothing more. I can assure you there are not any in my local library.

          • Garbage Adams

            No, sir. The 612 section of your local library you will find under non-fiction, not lies.

          • I live in a very rural area of Illinois that is heavily Christian conservative.

          • Garbage Adams

            You are putting yourself at war with science rather than adapting to it.

          • No. Science is at war with God and His Holy Word.

          • Garbage Adams

            Science has no reason to be at war with any beings, real OR imaginary.

          • God is just as real as you and I are for He is our Creator.

          • Garbage Adams

            That’s nice, but irrelevant to the goal of science.

          • If it wasn’t for God there would not be any science because there would not be anything to study and no one to study it.

          • Garbage Adams

            Sorry, but it is there and you elect to deny it.

          • It is all junk science garbage Garbage.

          • Garbage Adams

            It is peer reviewed, sound, and stands up to any criticism you would like to level against it.

          • Reviewed and agreed to by those who caved into the lobbyist and political pressure back in the 1970’s and 80’s.

          • Garbage Adams

            That is a stale old myth. You can’t lobby people because you dint like the data they discover.

          • Happens all the time.

          • Garbage Adams

            Yeah, and nobody takes it seriously. Facts are facts whether anyone likes it or not. You can’t lobby against facts. The APA found better data and better ways of collecting it. It had nothing to do with lobbyists.

          • Read your history then come back and we’ll talk.

          • Garbage Adams

            Which revisionist history would you like me to read? I tend to avoid far-right hack jobs.

          • You think for some idiotic reason that only blacks were slaves and field hands picking cotton and you think the term “keep your cotton picking hands off” is a direct reference to that and not just an innocent euphemism?

            Time to grow up.

          • MamaBearly

            Indoctrination means teaching and is actually focused on religious belief in one definition, and as an ‘archaic’ definition it shows just teaching and instruction.

            Either way, he needs to find out the right meaning..

            He feels (as a ‘Christian’) that by putting the transgender issue in the public eye, everyone will turn transgender especially children. They figure that the children will follow in the path because they can be convinced of it because of their innocence, regardless of other influences in the child’s life and the examples that their parents set for them. I guess I can’t blame them for being concerned, as it is against God’s creation being man and woman and that we were to look and behave as our own gender. WE have to follow that ourselves. When others do things against God’s Word, We become concerned about how much sin is in the world. It’s something Christians have had to deal with all through History.

            Proof does not exist for these particular Christians, unless it is aimed at what they want to prove. No give or take in their conversations.

            I appreciate your presence Garbage Adams, as it was lonely being the lone fighter for Jesus (or against their beliefs). Thanks for your discussions. I am enjoying them.

          • Garbage Adams

            I really come here mainly to read the opinions of people who pervert the teachings of Jesus Christ. The further “right” (or left, for that matter) a person gets, the less reasonable they tend to be. People should be centered and reasonable.

          • MamaBearly

            So putting the idea that a frog can talk and puppets can do all the things that the Muppet’s have done all the lives of many many children, will make them think they can be a frog? or, hehe an Animal? (Muppet joke)
            What if there has been no outside influence and the child realized it themselves with no “indoctrination” because that does happen. I expect it happens regularly, especially to Christians who would not expect it to happen “to them”.

            Why is it these activists cannot stay away from everyone else’s kids and grandkids?
            No, it was not a lie, because of the way people treat them, they do want to be left alone and that was just what they asked for when they revealed their “sin” to all who wants to rebuke them as well as their supporters. If Christians never treated them badly in the first place, and let them have the same rights as other human beings, then it would not have exploded like it did. Now we have to have a change of plan, because all our avenues to correct a child like this have been made into dead ends. The devil, if you may, has created a situation that took advantage of how the gays were persecuted. He knew he could make it worse in our eyes, create doubt, and convince people that God would never do something like THIS.

            So he let us browbeat them about their “sin” and then crashed the party by having his minions create a law that said that our beliefs are not important when it comes to the law of the land, period. The Devil knows our weaknesses and will play with them aimed right at us. He does this with individuals, but this time he went after changing the whole world to accept this, against all Christian beliefs.

            The devil cannot do anything, without God’s nod, so God is aware of what the devil has planned. I guess you could think that this is like a contest to take some people out of the race to be saved. It is described as a race in scriptures. Everything that God does has a reason to test, to strengthen faith in some people; to help people to become patient, which I know is necessary to be able to have the faith for long times and patience and leaving the problem to God’s hands, which work in a different “time”, so it may take longer than we want it to, but if we trust God, and believe that He is in control and will protect us as he promised and provide for us as he promised, and not doubt that he will do what is necessary for his world, and his people, in His own time.

            It isn’t like we want to necessarily want to leave a child of ours in this state. But any other option is not available anymore to us at this time. Trusting God is all we have to do at this point, as not much will penetrate this anymore. God will do what is necessary and we need to Trust him to do it and wait. We can’t ‘do’ anything to stop this, only stand up for our rights, but when it comes to having our children our own separate entity that limits our ability to punish the way the Lord wants us to. It’s not like we are sinning by it, because we are not doing anything with evil intent. We need to trust God or take the chance that he won’t take action and it will get worse from here on in.

            I still think it is like a test to find out who is likely to be given salvation in heaven. The ones that doubt, and the ones that give up without trusting God, the ones that turn their back to God’s Word and do not try to still instill good Christian-like behaviour. The ones that do not show love, but hate for both the sinner and the sin. The ones that did not every do any good works in any way. Anything that is taught by Jesus is expected to be done by the ones following him, to show him that we are following him and trying to be holy, like he wants us to be, even knowing we will fail. He wants us to try to be good Christ-like people who spread the gospel, kindly as Jesus did. The time he spent ministering to his sheep was not just about sin and avoiding temptation. It was to show us and tell us the right way to behave to show that we are following him to the World, so they will be drawn to us and be led to Jesus by our behaviour shining out to them. that in turn will give Glory to God.

            So I expect that these precious children will be justified if anything happens before they are of a responsible age understanding what consequences are possible and what is right from wrong, and believe in Christ; until that age comes, they will be justified as too young to be punished for it. But if the child knew it was wrong, and did it in spite, or to get attention, and knowing what the consequences could be and doing it anyway, it makes a difference to God. Stay still and wait on the Lord, and rejoice in the Lord while you wait.

            He has control, we have to have enough trust for him, without doubting him at all, to help us with this world and what we have to live with. Either that, or eventually, we will be too accepting without having God in our lives. We have been shown a lot of the warnings that Jesus mentioned. more than ever before I believe. and this change in our world beliefs will need to sustain us if he is leading us to the end times this century. I believe he creates situations to find out the people who are truly followers and don’t use church as a show of their faith, but that they stand out from the others around them. By being good people, especially in today’s world. I know from experience that it affects other people around you when you show people you care about them, even though they are strangers. I help people, offer my seat, have a lifting up chat with an older lady who looks lonely. I don’t just sit on the bus and watch others, I show people the way people appreciate how you treat other people. I see them watching me when I stand up for an older or lame person. I notice especially when I was just given the seat by someone else, and I still offer it to someone else who needs it more than I do. It makes people want to be nice to others themselves. I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

            Sit still and wait, Trusting God and giving Glory to God by doing that. God has to deal with the whole world, when it goes against His Word. And we can honestly do nothing to help God to do something about what is accepted in today’s World now. (He likes to work alone when it’s a big job).

          • Reason2012

            If Christians never treated them badly in the first place, and let them have the same rights as other human beings, then it would not have exploded like it did.

            So since professing Christians “treated them badly”, we should all sit back and let them mentally abuse all our kids and grandkids? No.

            It’s the LGBT activists that treat them badly by making them believe the lie that its’ normal to feel like the opposite gender, then mutilate your body to “fix” the problem, which fixes nothing but actually hurts them and hurts everyone else who are then forced to live in this lie they’ve been deceived into believing.

            Yes, God is in control, but He commands us to preach His truth with love. Just because some do not like the truth doesn’t make it hate.

          • MamaBearly

            I’m actually not talking about the ones that preach to them, although it definitely depends on how it is done, whether they feel the hate for themselves, or for their sin.
            I’m talking about the “Christians” that harass them, that refuse to serve them – won’t sell food to them, who won’t sell medicine, or housing or heat or repairs. That’s the abuse I was talking about that created the situation where the gays had to stand up for themselves to be able to have Equal Rights, which as people they deserve because all people are sinners and it is not right to take away people’s ability to live comfortably whether they are sinners or not.
            Transgenders do not always change their body parts. Many do not do more than change their appearance without any body part changes.
            Children who feel they are transgender, will not be having body parts changed until they are the age of majority and can choose for themselves to do that. Otherwise, they give them hormones only to counter any puberty changes. By choosing to go off them at any point, the hormones that are naturally in their bodies will counter act the hormones they were given.
            I have spent the time to find out about these changes in our world so that I could understand the process better and can make a more informed decision about it. From what I can find, and I did not use Activist sites, unless they feel so strongly about it to want to have “things cut off” they are advised to go through therapy to help them be certain of such a life altering surgery. If they are old enough to choose on their own, there is no one but God, and the person themselves that can do anything for those people in terms of saving them. The best thing would be to accept them as they have changed to and still encourage them to repent and come to Jesus. If they do that, it will have to be left to Jesus whether repenting without being able to go back to ‘fix’ it, on Judgement Day. We do our duty to tell them about Salvation and repenting and the benefits of doing that, and if they come to Jesus, we can only support them. We can’t insist they go through surgery again. That is the kind of thing we need to have God tell the person, or leave it to God to decide how to judge them. All we can do is show love and support for anyone who is transgender who comes to Jesus. We can tell them the Truth all we want, but it is them that has to choose what they have to repent for and what they can actually do about it, if there was surgery before. Surgery to reverse it can be a dangerous thing for some people. But having to stay physically different should not depend on whether or not they are truly followers of God. God would not want them to risk their lives in order to change back, especially since it can’t be back to what it was originally. Somehow I don’t think they would save parts in the event that they will change their minds some day.
            It may not hurt the people around them either, I’m afraid. It depends on whether they support the change or not. Anyone who is not Christian could have decided this is the way it should be, and support it. People who support the be who you are belief, will always support them. It is allowing the person to become who they believe they are.
            We are to put away our old lives and become like new when we are reborn, but it is not something that is an instantaneous thing. We still have to make changes in our lives ourselves to become the person God created each of us to be.
            The World has changed. We have to be able to live apart from that world and live our lives according to God, and only involve ourselves with a lot of things by choice. Even working in the world, it is possible to stay faithful to God while in a world that has changed so much. As long as Christians live a Christian life, what happens in the other world should not affect our faith and trust in God. The only thing we can do as Christians is stand up for our faith, just as the gays stood up for their Equal Rights.
            The problem we have is that when the world accepted the gay and trans issues, they also made them laws. We as Christians have had our parental rights away from us, because of the way the faithful would not want our child to be gay or trans and we are considered abusive to attempt to deny the child the ability to be the other sex, and we can be jailed for it. If we are jailed, and they are taken away, we have no influence on them any longer. If we refuse to the authorities to agree to allow the child to be ‘themselves’ the child is removed. If we agree to tolerate it, we are following God’s Word about the Fruits of the Spirit – longsuffering – and we can influence the child because it is in our household, and help them to turn to Jesus and realize that He would not want it, and they should want to go back to “normal” as you say, but if they still don’t, what do we do? We can’t force them. We can’t abandon them. God would see that as harming the child. The Christian community has to stand for their rights as parents, but some sort of compromise will be necessary to be able to get any of our rights back. We won’t want to compromise, and they won’t want to compromise, so if we can find a compromise that works for both sides then we might be able to keep our rights as parents to some extent and have the chance to influence them. Otherwise the world will take away our children and we will not be able to influence how they are raised. So much of what is happening in the World is out of our control, so we must trust God to care for us while things are going against us.
            I have nothing against preaching the Truth, but there is no reason why anyone needs to feel it is about hate. By focusing on the gospel we do not need to express any hate at all, until we are speaking of repentance of sin, and how God hates sin. The truth will not be viewed as hate that way and we will be able to reach more people to come to Jesus too.
            They need to know the Truth, but if it makes them feel like it is hate for themselves, it’s not done well enough to actually draw them to Christ. We must talk more about salvation first to get them to listen, and that repentance is a necessity to attain salvation. They will know what their sin is without us having to mention it, and I don’t say we shouldn’t, but it would not be as necessary if we talk about salvation first.
            When people visit a church, they are not asked what their sins are. When they join, they are not asked what their sins are. We tell them about salvation and about repentance of sin. If they believe, they will be baptized and regenerated and reborn, and start to try to live as a Christian.
            Gays and transgenders are people, just like you and I, as well as sinners, just like you and I. That has to be considered before the sin is. You don’t (shouldn’t) yell at a child for doing something that had never been taught as wrong before. It’s the same with sinners. If they aren’t taught about salvation with it being reliant on repentance, it isn’t something that will make people defensive. The people who feel hated, don’t necessarily know the truth other than what they hear. Most people don’t like to be criticized either. Do you? Even if you are the kind to work with criticism, the first thought is “who are you to judge me?” if a stranger started talking about the person’s sin right off.
            Christians have to put themselves into the other persons shoes if they want to be able to effectively draw the people to Jesus, They have to think about how it would feel to be approached by someone, and what we would want to have said to us that would not be offensive and still lead us to sharing the Truth by talking to them about salvation first because it really is about Salvation and repentance is How to be saved. By speaking first of the sin, it doesn’t give them anything to make them want to give it up until they hear about salvation, so why bring up the bad, before the good, when the good would make more of a difference to whether they even listen in the first place. Saying they are sinners (bad) first will put defenses up and block the chance to reach out to them about Jesus. “Fight evil with Good” By being good people, we can reach someone better than someone who likes to harass others when they find out their sin. Once we know they know the Truth about Salvation by repentance, we have to leave them to their choice. No one can be forced to believe, and harassing them over time just makes the situation angry and possibly violent. It is not effective.
            So how you approach a sinner will make it clear that it isn’t about the hate of the sin, it’s about the love of Jesus and that he wants to offer everyone Salvation and that repentance is what we have to do to be saved. If they learn to love Jesus the way the Christians do, they will WANT to repent. We do, so why wouldn’t they, if it is done properly.

          • Reason2012

            I’m talking about the “Christians” that harass them, that refuse to serve them – won’t sell food to them,

            You mean like bakers that are asked to support the sin of same-gender marriage by baking them a cake when said bakers had no problem “serving them” for years? That’s not refusing to serve them in the least. That’s refusing to be forced to support sin no matter who it was who asked.

            Yes, we want to approach sinners to offer them God’s offer to “forgive and forget” if people will have a change of mind about sin to instead turn back towards God and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. But the current topic is those who are knee-deep in sin and refute to repent mentally abusing everyone else’s kids and grandkids forcing them to partake in their sin and believe the lie you’re born a certain way hence some behaviors are normal and not sin.

          • MamaBearly

            I explained what I meant by “those Christians”. You don’t read whole replies either eh?
            No I am not talking about the things that go against our belief. I’m talking about the “Christians” that will not allow them to have the right to buy food in the local grocery store, because of their sin. There is no reason in our belief to treat anyone badly for their sins by taking away something that is necessary for them to live. Jesus does not want gays to die for their sin until after he judges them.
            You are not even TRYING to understand what I have said. And I doubt you have even read what I wrote to give you understanding.
            Here I’ll show you the kind of Christian I am talking about.,.
            Gays have to go to another part of town to buy groceries because the “christian” who owns the store refuses to serve them. Would you want to have to do that just to buy food; they have even tried to buy formula for a friend’s baby and have been REFUSED. You tell me how this is a Christian belief that sinners should not be allowed to EAT.
            Or how about you make reservations for you and your brother who you haven’t seen for years, and when you get there first, you are seated, but when your brother comes and you run to greet him and the two of you hug and kiss each other, then you turn around to take him to your table, the waiter standing there tells you that we won’t serve your kind here, and won’t listen to anything you say, but insists that you leave.
            You aren’t even gay but because they ‘think’ you are, they treat you badly. Because you are a sinner and what? have no right to life? Jesus never told us to do that.
            Christians should not be treating a sinner with any less love and compassion for any reason, and the ONLY thing we can’t do is be involved with them being married. We can’t abet in their sin of homosexuality, in any way. And there is no other reason to treat anyone badly just for their sin. NEVER.

            The thing is, you don’t understand child’s psychology either.
            I’ll reply to that in a second reply.

          • Reason2012

            I’m talking about the “Christians” that will not allow them to have the right to buy food in the local grocery store, because of their sin.

            Since you’re claiming this is such an epidemic, please cite 10 cases of this happening.

          • MamaBearly

            I asked people about it, and to be honest, I would not tell you who it was that described it to me as you are one of the people who harass and demean gays, and supporters of Gays.
            I love people who tell others to “cite xx cases of this happening”SMH
            How do I do that when I talked to individuals, and did not read it in the media. These people experienced these things and I asked about them.
            I wanted to know more about the problems and who was actually following God’s Word.
            If I went and found 10 gays that would come here and give you 1 time that they were treated badly by people because of their “sin”, would you accept the stories as true? Or would you turn around and call them liars and say that “they just wanted people to think that is what is happening – when it’s not.”
            I’m quite willing to go and ask random people who are gay to come and post to me about an experience they have had themselves that was a Christian punishing them for their sin. The Christians do not hesitate to tell them why they won’t serve them either. The problem is that I will not expose those people to you and your fellow “Christians” who like to be more cruel than kind to people who are gay or transgender.
            So, you don’t know of or believe that people who are Christian and “hate” the sin that gays do, regularly take it out on gays without it being in the media. You give it time if you want to see cases, because when these Christians pull one of their “you’re a sinner, no service”, they can be sued for it. Equal rights should be for everyone, without any exclusions for anything that anyone else has, and now gays have the same rights you do.

            If there are not cases yet, there will be and it won’t be suing Christians who won’t serve when it comes to a wedding – which is the ONLY thing that can be refused honestly by a Christian. Only the wedding issues are against our beliefs, and we can’t abet them – meaning we are not supposed to have anything to do with the wedding at all.
            If someone refuses to allow them to buy medicine at a pharmacy because they are gay, that’s against the law now.

            If someone refuses gays any services because they are gay, they can be sued for it. Just like if a gay refuses you any services because you are straight, you can sue them.

            It’s about equality, not anything to do with the sin. Those are the things that I expect to start popping up, if they haven’t already.
            It’s the same as the gay/transgender issues, we no longer have any control in the world. We have to take care of our own, and be the peculiar people that God wants us to be and be not of the world. We can’t do anything, so we need to prepare our family and friends who are faithful so they know how to tell their kids about these things without making them intolerant of all differences. Intolerance is not acceptable in any way in the school systems. So teaching them not to associate with the transgender kids or the gay kids, but be sure to let them know it is ok to play with (said with no ill intent, sorry) the Asians and the Blacks and the Indians…. because no matter how you feel about it, your child has to learn to tolerate every thing that the world has to offer.
            We have no choice but to deal with it within our communities as those would be likely be the farthest a lot of us will reach out for this.

          • MamaBearly

            Yes, we want to approach sinners to offer them God’s offer to “forgive
            and forget” if people will have a change of mind about sin to instead turn back towards God and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. But the current topic is those who are knee-deep in sin and refute to repent mentally abusing everyone else’s kids and grandkids forcing them to partake in their sin and believe the lie you’re born a certain way hence
            some behaviors are normal and not sin.

            The current topic is obviously a concern for you, perhaps as a grandfather. I understand that concern totally. I am very glad that I did not have to raise my own children during this confusing time.
            But the thing is, as Christians we can disagree with what the world is doing, but we have to be able to confront these things with maturity and more than just our faith and how we ‘feel’ about this. We have had every bit of control removed from our hands with this.

            If we run bullheaded into that china shop, it will not be good for US.

            We have to find a way to live with it, because we have no choice, and being angry and upset will do nothing for us. I do not say we need to agree with it, as it is against our beliefs, but we’ve had to put up with a lot in the world that go against our beliefs.

            As long as we keep our faith strong we can manage in this world of unbelievers.

            I know children well, and if they do not have a problem with whether they are boys or girls, it won’t make them change just to know someone else does have that problem.

            Kids are able to be who they are just as we are. It isn’t going to be a “fad” for young kids to be transgender, it will likely be very few children that young in the regular school systems that need to have a big deal made out of it.

            Christian adults need to have tolerance for people of different faiths and of the non-believers.

            They don’t ‘force’ them to take part in anything. They teach them only so they won’t
            1) be confused or upset about someone they know as a girl is now a boy.
            2) to teach them that different is not necessarily bad (because it isn’t)
            3) to equip them for their future where the transgender issue will always be now.

            If the children can’t tolerate differences in the school, they will not have a good job environment either. Not in today’s world.

            We can’t go in with guns blazing, we have to be calm to overcome this, and we need a plan that will hopefully work to give us back some control, but we have to trust in God to take care of our children, when things like this happen. Pray and teach your children about your belief and it is what is supposed to matter to them when they are older, according to the scriptures. God knows what needs to be done, and when we pray and ask for help, he always helps in some way to better our lives.

            Don’t worry, God’s got this, just pray and tell him that you trust him to take care of your babies so you know that there is nothing to worry about anymore.

            God bless!

          • Reason2012

            We have to find a way to live with it, because we have no choice

            No, we don’t find a way to live with it and let our kids’ minds be poisoned with perverted filth – we rebuke it and protect our kids from it.

            If they were showing 5 year olds_porn, would you still be saying “we have to live with it – God’s got this”? I would think not. This is no different. What does Jesus/God even say about those who cause kids to sin?

            Matthew 18:6-7 “But whoso shall offend [cause to sin/stumble] one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!”

            Those parents who allow their kids to be so abused will be accountable.

            We don’t bury our heads in the sand and do nothing – that’s what the slothful servant with one talent did, and God rebuked Him as a slothful servant.

            Matthew 25:24-30 “Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.
            His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
            Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

            2 Timothy 4:2-4 “Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”

            So your “advice” to Christians to do nothing and bury their heads in the sand is either lack of knowledge of God and His Word, or deception.

          • Nick Halflinger

            I wanted to be Cookie Monster. [/joke]

          • MamaBearly

            My kids loved Grover, and even named our dog Grover. Personally I like Fozzy Bear and my husband always wanted to be more like Kermit.

          • Nick Halflinger

            Then be sure to catch Kermit’s rendition of “Wild Thing.Unplugged” available on you tube.

      • Michael C

        You’ve somehow missed the point entirely.

        I know you don’t believe that transgender people exist. I’m well aware, thank you. …but that opinion is irrelevant because there are transgender kids in schools. I know you don’t think they’re actually transgender but, again, your opinion is irrelevant.

        The schools have to deal with the fact that some of their students live their lives according to their gender identity rather than the sex they were assigned at birth according to their external anatomy.

        The schools have to deal with it. They have no choice. Teaching everyone to get along and not be fearful or hateful towards their transgender classmates is something they have no choice in doing.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          “.but that opinion is irrelevant because there are transgender kids in schools.”

          and that OPINION is irrelevant because there is no SCIENCE to back it up …

          • MamaBearly

            Amos, you are being RUDE again. You are welcome to say that you don’t agree with their opinion, but you don’t have to be rude about it.
            Act like Christ would and watch how you talk to people. Please don’t act like Jesus would be nasty about someone else’s opinion. He’d be more likely to just correct them than be demeaning because someone has a different view.

            You are a Christian. Why are you talking about Science? We believe in God, not science. Science helps us understand how great our God is. But it doesn’t prove very much about anything beyond that for us.
            you always tell everyone that Science results are not true because of God’s Word. How can you turn it around for this post?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Amos, you are being RUDE again. ”

            NOPE …. being HONEST AND TRUTHFUL ……….. NOT the same thing ……

          • MamaBearly

            NOPE …. being HONEST AND TRUTHFUL ……….. NOT the same thing

            Amos, if you are being honest and truthful AND Christian you will find the words to express your “honest and truthful” post in a better way to show a good Christian person. We are not supposed to be rude in any way. Jesus certainly was never rude, even when he was correcting people. Nor demeaning.
            When my kids swore, we told them to use their mind to find better words to say the same thing. It helped to curb it a lot. Unfortunately, too many people feel swearing is OK so now curse words are common instead of rare, as it was in my parents day. Even in my youth people had their mouths washed out with soap to punish for cursing.

            The point is Amos, that by behaving properly as Jesus told us to, it will help others to be kinder too. Amos, Jesus didn’t say – Go Out and spread the Gospel and repentance, to let them get lots of people to listen to them, and not have a purpose for it. If he had already chosen his “Elect” why would he still offer salvation to everyone else since Jesus was crucified? We aren’t supposed to be ashamed of Jesus, and hide our salvation. We are supposed to be telling the world about how wonderful it is to be a Child of God. We are supposed to be bringing people to Jesus. ALL Christians were commanded to do that Amos. It is our DUTY as Christians. and Yes it is in the scriptures.

            Teach people to be polite by being polite. It works because I have proven it over and over right here on this board.

            I realize you don’t care whether people are nice to you or not, but it isn’t just you that is involved here Amos. People are reading our posts and learning from what both of us are saying. The way you post to me has brought me to try to teach you that you want to be treated the same way. With no respect. Because you do not show me respect in any way. Not the way you confront me, because you believe differently. Right up to when you declared I was an Evil person trying to lead people astray, I had not disrespected you in any way, and even apologized after I had. You seem to think that because you believe the way you do, no one else’s belief is to be respected, except yours. Why would anyone respect someone who is putting them down about how they believe in Jesus. Why should they? The point is Amos, you can tell others of your belief without be derisive towards them. Tell them so they want to know more and Lord only knows, some might even convert to your beliefs. The way it is showing now, I expect most people would rather have a God that loves them, and wants them to be happy, not a God that puts a HEAVY yoke around their necks by be a hateful God. Because if Hate is in anything it is darkness and don’t you dare try to put God into the darkness by saying he hates. JESUS told us that hate is evil and a part of the darkness, so I think that is what I will go by, because obviously, your understanding of the O.T. is not able to use the word Hate without it being in the darkness. God would not be in the darkness, so therefore you should look to a different way of understanding the scriptures with hate in them. God IS love. God IS Light. Hate cannot be a part of God. It is impossible according to what Jesus told us. Darkness cannot cover the light of God.

            Think about it and use reasoning. Why would Jesus say that about hate being evil and part of the darkness, plus he said that God Is Light. and that darkness cannot cover light, but light can overcome darkness like goodness can triumph over evil.

            Try to use nice words when you disagree, because when you don’t, you are not being a good representative of Jesus.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            blah, blah, woof, woof ………. find some one else to mother …. and it should be MAMA-BARELY ………

            “Jesus certainly was never rude, even when he was correcting people. Nor demeaning. ”

            so then calling them A GENERATION OF VIPERS and ASPS and WHITED SEPULCHERS (that is calling them white trash) and HYPOCRITES and BLIND FOOLS and SERPENTS and that their FATHER IS SATAN …. that comes out to you as “NOT DEMEANING” ……. what color is the sky in your world ….. seriously …. you need to find some other pursuit …. like ACTUALLY READING THE SCRIPTURES before you go shooting your mouth off about what you CLEARLY do not know ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            “Whited sepulchers” means white trash…really?
            Rebuke, rebuke, rebuke. As you say yourself so often, this is a CHRISTIAN channel…when can we expect you to start acting like a Christian?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Ignored … AGAIN ………

          • Garbage Adams

            You know, when *I* ignore things, generally speaking, I don’t respond to them.

            As you have done.

            Let’s add “ignore” to another word you need to look up.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……….

          • Garbage Adams

            Taking the time to physically type the word “ignored” isn’t ignoring, Amos. What it is is having a temper tantrum. But carry on doing it, by all means.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored again ……

          • Garbage Adams

            Failed to ignore again.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yawn …. ignored ………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            kind of cool how a person can not be ignored and yet be ignored …. with no blocking ……… and it puts me in complete control of what you said i have no control over …. LOL!!!!! ……

          • Garbage Adams

            Masterful job of “ignoring”, Amos.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………..

          • Nick Halflinger

            Some things in science should not be ignored. Gravity. It is more than just a good idea.

            In fact, the more science you ignore the more at odds you become with society.

          • MamaBearly

            you have control of nothing except making everyone who reads these comments laugh. You sound like a temperamental child throwing a “I’m NOT going to speak with you ever again!” tantrum. It’s ok Amos, we’ll wait for you to grow up and stop playing little boy games. We’ll watch and laugh but we’ll wait. Have fun!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … i just do it because it ANNOYS YOU ………

          • Garbage Adams

            You don’t know me. You don’t know what annoys me.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yawn … annoyed … ignored ………

          • MamaBearly

            I think he stomps his feet under his computer desk too. For all we know, he lies down on the floor and throws the type of tantrums that we see in public where the mother just puts her foot gently on them to hold them down, and lets them exhaust themselves instead of trying to stop it. Much more effective method and usually only takes the one time if they are reminded.
            So, if he is throwing a temper tantrum, shouldn’t we ignore it and let him exhaust himself before we deal with him again?

          • Garbage Adams

            I dunno, I’m just really amused that he thinks saying “ignored” means he’s ignored somebody. If he didn’t respond, THAT would be ignoring.

          • Nick Halflinger

            I think it is more like, “it went in one ear and out the other.” It was a passing idea that could not be understood.

          • MamaBearly

            I love that expression when it is about someone not understanding something just said. Ironically, they don’t usually understand what we mean by that expression either.
            Thanks for the memory!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored again ……….

          • Garbage Adams

            Didn’t again. Just don’t respond Amos, that is how you ignore.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yawn … ignored ……

          • MamaBearly

            Oh dear you are so good at it. I can’t seem to hit him just the right way like you do. Thanks for the smiles, and the chuckles, Blessings!

          • S-T-U-P-I-D

          • Garbage Adams

            No comment!

          • MamaBearly

            no no no, IGNORE, remember? hahahaha

          • MamaBearly

            Amos Moses is the one who suits that word in this situation.
            There is no reason to be ignorant like that to other people just because they don’t agree with his view. It would be better for him to not say anything and block him. Smarter too. I guess it depends on how smart he is then…

          • MamaBearly

            How do you KNOW if anyone will ever change later in their lives and turn to Jesus. Do you realize that it is a direct disobedience to God’s Word? It’s called a stumbling block. You are stopping someone else from being led to Jesus. What you say and do could prevent someone from turning from Jesus. Because you refuse to act with Christ-like manners.
            I’m sorry, and Yes, in this day and age that is called hate speech and you can be arrested for it.
            I’m sorry Amos, that you don’t understand what the human psychology is like and when treated the way you would be treating them* they would not turn to you to listen to the gospel. It would make them turn away. It isn’t the same from what Jesus did that to the Scribes. and those were the ONLY ones he treated like that and only about their hypocrisy. So no, it was not something Jesus did without a prophecy laying it all out for him to follow. He did not do that to any gays in the bible, at all, but only talked about the sin, and that it will be punished on Judgement Day.
            And if you want to be called names I’m sure I could come up with some of the other ones from the bible too. I don’t play childish games because I am an adult.
            I am not shooting my mouth off. I am telling you and anyone else that reads our posts that there is another way to do what we have to do as our duty, that will actually be more effective at bringing people to Christ. Our duty is not to make people feel bad in public about their sin. Shame is something that is from feeling bad about something done, but it won’t be effective to stop someone and come to Jesus.
            The shame people feel happens when they understand about Jesus and Salvation and repentance. It certainly not from radical Christians yelling at them that they will go to hell. It makes them feel like God hates THEM, and they go away feeling that God is a hateful God.
            Is that what we want to do for our JESUS?
            Well, I don’t know about you because you have messed up beliefs compared to most other Christian Churches, but God is not a hateful God, he is a loving God who want ALL to come to salvation by repentance. We need to treat others as we want to be treated, and personally the way you and other “Christians” talk to sinners, I would not want to be treated like that ever in my life because it is NOT with love if you don’t see God as a loving God. If you see him as a hateful God, then you are a sorry Joe. He isn’t anything like what you once told me he is. Jesus loved everyone and when he spoke about sin, he always talked about love too. Most of the time it was about loving each other. So you are misunderstanding how Jesus told us about sin, because it was to teach us about the sins, just like all the other lessons were. He did not tell us to punish them, not even hypocrites like the Scribes and the Pharisee. And he told us that if we loved – meaning loved a lot, and not just the people we love because of our association with them, but strangers too – it would cover a multitude of sin. Does that sound like Jesus was making sin a bigger deal than loving each other to you?
            The bible is not straightforward reading. It needs to be read repeatedly for God to help you see what the scriptures are to be understood like, Some scriptures can be applied to multiple problems in our lives, not just one. If you can’t recognize that then start to listen to other people.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …………..

          • MamaBearly

            hahahahahahahahaha

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Christ is the stumbling block ………. the rest ignored …………

          • MamaBearly

            No, turning someone away from becoming a believer or remaining a believer, is what was meant by the term Stumbling block in the scriptures.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            1 Corinthians
            1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
            1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
            1:23 >>>>>>> But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; <<<<<<
            1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

          • MamaBearly

            I’ll quote you:

            WRONG!!

            As you can see, there are 13 Other scriptures with the word Stumbleblock used. Not only that, but none of the other one’s are about Jesus being that Stumbleblock.
            Sorry. < I guess you can tell I'm Canadian eh? lol!

            This is the scripture I mentioned:

            1 Corinthians 8:9
            But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a STUMBLINGBLOCK
            to them that are weak.

            Leviticus 19:14
            Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a STUMBLINGBLOCK before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD.

            Isaiah 57:14
            And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the STUMBLINGBLOCK
            out of the way of my people.

            Jeremiah 6:21
            Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will lay STUMBLINGBLOCKS before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.

            Ezekiel 3:20
            Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a STUMBLINGBLOCK before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

            Ezekiel 7:19
            They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the STUMBLINGBLOCK of their iniquity.

            Ezekiel 14:3
            Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the STUMBLINGBLOCK of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

            Ezekiel 14:4
            Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the STUMBLINGBLOCK of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;

            Ezekiel 14:7
            For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the STUMBLINGBLOCK of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:

            Zephaniah 1:3
            I will consume man and beast; I will consume the fowls of the heaven, and the fishes of the sea, and the STUMBLINGBLOCKS with the wicked; and I will cut off man from off the land, saith the LORD.

            Romans 11:9
            And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a STUMBLINGBLOCK,
            and a recompence unto them:

            Romans 14:13
            Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a STUMBLINGBLOCK or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

            Revelation 2:14
            But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a STUMBLINGBLOCK before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and yet CHRIST is the stumbling block to the non-believer …. and scripture says so ……….

          • MamaBearly

            ONE scripture does not point to the fact that I used stumblingblock as it was used in Romans 14:13 and it doesn’t talk about Christ.
            Yours is about the Hebrews and the Greeks Amos. not the same as what I was talking about at all.
            Romans 14:13
            Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a STUMBLINGBLOCK or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            there is the Elect ……… and there is the NOT Elect …….. and the stumbling Block for the NOT Elect …. is Christ …….. as it ALSO says in that passage …… FYI ….. the Greeks were considered the Gentiles …….

          • MamaBearly

            You are sounding so smug in the way you put it.
            But that is not what that passage is about. no it is not.
            I didn’t know you had trouble reading amos. I had no reference except to the brethren.
            You are getting annoying again by insisting your way is right when I have already proved to you that you are wrong.
            I think I’ll follow the example of an old acquaintance of mine and just

            IGNORE

            you for a few posts.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …….

          • MamaBearly

            Nana nana Boo boo!! my Father is better than your Father!! lol
            You are supposed to put childish toys away when you grown up; it is pointed out in scriptures.
            Stop playing name calling childish names Amos. Be a man and speak politely as you should be always. Use your words, as we say to young children trying to tell another child that they are upset about something.

            By the way, I am very much a mother and since you do not know me outside this board, you have no right to infer otherwise.
            Should I assume you are a black man who works in the fields, picking cotton. That is the picture associated with a man named Amos Moses.
            (no offense meant, This is said just to point it out to Amos)
            Should I point out how racist it is that you have chosen a black man’s name and picture as your avatar and user name?

            Stop trying to ‘get at me’ you know it won’t work anyway.
            I’ll never lose it with you again.
            State your opinion, or whatever you want to say without making it sound like you think you are better than them because they don’t believe. We know there will be people who don’t believe and there is no commandment from Jesus to treat ANYONE badly, not even sinners.

            I bet when you were raised you were told the golden rule just as much as I was, and apparently now you don’t think it applies to you, when it does. I bet you were told to be polite and name calling was punished by a soapy mouth.
            Otherwise, I will encourage others to treat you the way you are treating them. Because that is what a Christian is supposed to do, so your treatment of others is exactly how you want to be treated.
            Have fun with that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …….. do you know what God says to the unregenerate rebellious sinner …….

          • Garbage Adams

            And yet NOT ignored. MamaBearly 2, Amos 0.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yawn …. and ignored once more ……….

          • Garbage Adams

            And yet not – as evidenced by your response.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            zzzzzzz …. ignored once again ……….

          • Garbage Adams

            Which you didn’t. Isn’t this fun?

          • Garbage Adams

            So, we have established then that typing “ignored” is how you ignore someone, only not at all. Thanks for that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignorING ….. again ……….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            do you know what God says to the unregenerate rebellious sinner ……….

          • Garbage Adams

            Based on my own experience, you mean? Nothing.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, …. WE HAVE A WINNER ……

          • Garbage Adams

            Wipe the smug off your face, ding dong. You don’t know what God says either because he’s never spoken to you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            but you admit He has never spoken to you ….. nuff said …. again ….

            If you want to hear Gods voice, read the Bible. If you want to hear His voice audibly, read the Bible out loud.

          • Garbage Adams

            He has never spoken to anyone.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            He has never spoken to you …. and since you cant hear Him … you would not know to whom else He has spoken …. or not ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            If God actually physically spoke to anyone, we would know about it and have proof of it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            we do …. in SCRIPTURE ………

          • Garbage Adams

            Which was written by men, Amos.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. but i get why you think that ……. court records are recorded BY MEN …. and i am guessing you accept that eyewitness testimony …..

          • Garbage Adams

            I’m more interested why 2000 years ago when people said that they were speaking for God you believe them without a second thought, but if anyone did that today you’d call them a blasphemer.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Christ IS Good and He spoke for Himself ………… and you have no evidence i “believe them without a second thought” ……………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            BTW …. the Ten Commandments …. was literally SPOKEN to HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS (millions actually) gathered at the foot of Mount Sinai ……… by GOD Himself …. and that event is recorded in the scriptures …………

          • Garbage Adams

            Then why isn’t everyone on earth Christian? Oh, I know you’re going to say because we all love to rebel against God, yadda yadda, but isn’t it more likely that people don’t believe your take on things?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because men are unregenerate ….. they are dead …. and God has not CHOSEN them to be christians ……….. “but isn’t it more likely that people don’t believe your take on things?” …… and why would i care if they do not ………. and why do you care if they do ………

          • Garbage Adams

            If someone knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that God was real, why would such a huge chunk of the population choose to disobey him…this is absurd.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because they are dead in spirit …. they are unregenerate ….. they have no ability to hear His voice and more than anything else ….. they do not belong to Him ……. He created all of them …. but not all of them belong to Him ……… He has chosen a particular people to follow Him and they WILL follow Him … not might follow … not probably follow …. not He made it so they may follow …. they WILL follow ….. and the rest are not and will not ……….. they will follow their own desires ….

          • MamaBearly

            I think you are beating me against Amos. I’ll give you the victory, Ok? You do such an awesome job!

          • Garbage Adams

            I think he is his own worst enemy.

          • MamaBearly

            That is for real Disciples of Jesus, not ones that don’t believe in Jesus’ love and views God as a hateful God – and actually, it would be you because of your view of God, that the disciples would have done that very thing. You refuse to hear the Word of God the way it is meant to be heard obviously, as we were told to behave as a representative of Jesus, and being rude is not something Jesus would ever be like, as it is part of evil, and therefore a part of the darkness. Jesus is the light, and his light would block out any evil so, no, other than following prophecies, Jesus was not ever rude and always spoke about love. Every time he spoke about sin, he followed it up with some scriptures about love.
            So if anyone would wipe the dust from our feet, it would be Christians who know God is a loving God getting away from you, and your evil way of presenting God to the world. Giving God a reputation of being a hateful God, is blasphemy when he is a loving God. So trying to get you to see the Truth is actually some good works for me. We are supposed to rebuke and teach a brethren who has strayed from the right path, what they are doing wrong and how to correct their own behaviour. I love teaching and you have always sounded like you have strayed from the path and need more instruction about the gospel.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ….. do you know what God says to the unregenerate rebellious sinner …….

          • Garbage Adams

            And yet NOT ignored. MamaBearly 1, Amos 0.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……….. once again ……

          • Garbage Adams

            And yet not. Stop typing, then we’ll know you’re actually ignoring.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            You know, if you keep responding to someone you’re supposedly ignoring, you’re obviously not ignoring them.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Nice to see you too!

          • MamaBearly

            To whom are you speaking to? There are 2 of us posting that you want to ignore but aren’t.
            I do know what Jesus would say to unregenerate rebellious sinner!

            I know that Jesus would say I love you and I want you to follow me and stop sinning and repent so I can give you a joyful Eternal life.

            But I am very aware that you don’t agree with what my Jesus would do.

            You are making Jesus into a schizophrenic by making him hateful when the majority of the Christians know Jesus as a loving God.
            Another way you blasphemy the Name of Jesus.

            By the way, the way you say that, sounds like the beginning of a joke.
            You might want to change how you put that..

            How about if you look at a thesaurus and find different words that mean ignore or ignored. That could be fun for someone who wants some variation in the game.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I know that Jesus would say I love you and I want you to follow me and stop sinning and repent so I can give you a joyful Eternal life.

            NOPE ……… He says …. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ………… because the unregenerate rebellious sinner CANNOT HEAR HIM …………

          • KP

            You are a Pharisee. I can hear the ‘holier than thou’ in your voice. You love to tell others how they are not Christian and you are such a superior Christian than they are. You do not judge the world for sin that is condemning the world to destruction. You just judge other Christians for your definition of their sins. You love to argue and feel superior. This is what God meant in the context of judge not. We are to judge by His standards, not the world standards. If there was no judgement of sin in the Bible, it would not exist because that is what it is all about. You know that little thing called sin and the need for a Savior. It teaches us right and wrong and how to know the difference to protect us and the consequences for wrong choices. It’s not about social justice and defending perversion because we can’t hurt anyone’s feelings. Your comment says it all. ‘So trying to get you to see the Truth is actually some good works for me.’ You believe in a works based faith.

          • MamaBearly

            Knowing the Bible correctly is giving me a ‘holier than thou’ “voice” because I talk about the way I believe and tell people to search the scriptures to see if I am telling the truth. ..
            I’m sorry, I am not a Pharisee as everything I say is in the scripture and I do live the life that Jesus wants us to live. I teach exactly what I am being led by God to say.
            Besides that YOU ARE NOT READING MY POST if you say I support any sin. I have never ever in my life supported what was wrong instead of what was right. NEVER – and since you are supposed to be my age, you should never ever do it either.
            You don’t want to live with the Love of Jesus reflected in your life. Fine.
            You think you should keep beating it into a sinners mind that they are sinners even though they already know how you feel and no longer need to be beaten for that sin.
            Once they know the gospel, what they will forget the hate you told him Jesus had for him, before you told him of the love? No. They just hear the hate. They don’t understand the we love you but we hate the sin. Not unless you tag onto it LIKE A MOTHER WITH A CHILD because otherwise it makes nothing clear about what you mean by love that makes you hate.

            Since I am being led by Jesus through my posts and my life, I am pretty confident that I am doing and saying the right thing. No one has been able to tell me where there is a scripture that tells us to show hate at all. It should be love you show even when you talk about sin, and that should not be hard to do to literate adults in today’s world.
            There are peole who are quite articulate that I am sure they could put together something to yell at sinners that would be more effective without the word hate in it. Words matter to people. The word hate will stand out more than love because we want love, not hate in our lives. So instead of thinking about the Love Jesus has for all of us, you are making them think that Jesus is a God of hate.
            When you are trying to reach a crowd with dissenters all around, you can’t reach anyone to the point that they will turn to Jesus. So why not have your own rally and TALK about the sins of this world and how to avoid them and about salvation etc. etc.
            Why yell yourself hoarse getting no where fast because the venue is not right for it.
            It’s like a dog at a kennel that barks for the 2 days he’s there constantly, even with no results and is hoarse when the owners picked him up. Barking constantly is not even a good thing to other dogs when they want to sleep.
            Lady learn to love first as the Kingdom of Heaven is supposed to be all about. Then go and spread the gospel. Tell your testimonies to people who do not already know God as they need to hear about how God affects your life. So they will want to experience those feelings too. That is the light we shine.
            I won’t fight with anyone that will not try to understand and will not even address what I say about Jesus’ Love. They know not the Truth and I will always try to show them their mistakes with the Gospel, but when they come back to fight with me, I can only do so much if they won’t at least read what I write. With a few of the posters here it is getting monotonous. they post hate, I teach love and they preach hate with anger instead of just posting. Christians are supposed to be long-suffering towards others, not get angry with someone who sees something different about the bible. You are supposed to confirm to yourself by reading the scriptures whether or not I am telling the truth. It’s not up to me to do more than try to get people to understand. It is up to them to actually do the looking up and the consideration of whether I am telling the “truth” or not. If they don’t want to make sure they are “good with God” for the day Jesus comes, that is their free will to choose. All I can do is tell them what they are missing and try to leave it there. Most posters who disagree will keep insisting that they are right without considering what I say in any way, made obvious by their reply about something I explained in the post. Like NO why should I waste 20 minutes again and again when you don’t even have enough respect towards a sister to consider her words, especially when she told you she feels the Spirit leading her? Do you not know what it feels like to have the Spirit obviously led you to do something. It’s like you want to go left but the Spirit insists that you should go right and if you listen and obey, you might find that you were necessary to someone to be there at just the right moment.
            It would be like the example of the donkey and the ass being right there and fulfilling the prophecy. The owner was moved by the spirit to leave the donkey and the ass in the correct spot so they would be found just as the prophecy portrayed.
            Follow Jesus with Love or at least don’t spread the word as if Jesus hates anyone. Because it is a lie and you know it. the only thing he hates is sin and the sins associated with the Church especially. He put more emphasis on those sins that any other he talked about. Those things truly brought the wrath of God out of Jesus, and not just because of the prophecies. He was angry with them for corrupting Christians, and using the Church to do it.
            I find it interesting that you have been religious all your life, can’t see the love and have not read of the love or would be speaking of it.
            And yet I see the love and the hate of sin is made to be so small compared to the Love he shows us with his grace to forgive our repented sin, and all the sin that was in our past before we believed in Jesus and what God and Jesus has done for them.
            In only less than a decade I have learned more about Jesus and his time on earth than you have in your whole life.
            Lady, without love, you ain’t got Jesus, and that’s a fact. (yes it’s in the scriptures!!!).
            Blessings!

          • Michael C

            I’m not arguing with you about whether or not some people are “actually” transgender.

            There are some kids in schools that don’t fit into your standards for gender roles. Schools have to deal with it. Schools can’t just kick these kids out.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it is not “my standard” …. it is GODS creation ………

          • Michael C

            Cool bean. …still evading the point.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sorry … kids who do not “fit in” get kicked out everyday for numerous reasons …. from inappropriate dress to their BEHAVIOR …… so no ……..

            is that MORE ON POINT for you ……..

          • Michael C

            kids who do not “fit in” get kicked out everyday for numerous reasons …. from inappropriate dress to their BEHAVIOR

            There we go! A response to my actual comment! Yes, that was finally on point.

            You believe that public schools should not provide transgender children with an education. Thank you for your input.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i think that my point COUNTERS your point ….. but that is NOT what i said …. and YOU KNOW IT ……….. fact is THERE IS NO SUCH THING in Gods creation and it is a BEHAVIOR ….. and IS a reason to kick them out ….. WHATEVER their BEEHAVIOR is …. as it is REBELLION to authority ………. “Thank you for your input” …………

          • MamaBearly

            Being a transgender at an early age is no longer something that Christians can deal with on their own. Complaining and getting your pants twisted will still not change anything.
            You really should study the psychology of children Amos. You have no idea what a child is like and have no right to comment about anything beyond saying that it is against God’s will.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……… AGAIN ………..

          • MamaBearly

            Keep on ignoring us Amos, we can show others how to treat people properly by not allowing your rudeness to affect our Christian behaviour. See how that works when you are rude to other people. It makes no difference except we have to consider the other people who read these comments, and prefer to show a Good Christians as we should.
            By playing your little boy games, you are telling others that you are not a Christian at all. I believe I’ve mentioned that you are a poor representative for Jesus before this.
            Why don’t you go out and skip with your friends for a while and maybe the Lord will bless you with better manners.
            I’ll pray for that for your.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored again … and once again …………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            do you know what God says to the unregenerate rebellious sinner …….

          • MamaBearly

            I answered you on a different post, same question. I’ll say that I am ignoring this one, by telling you I am ignoring it.

          • Nick Halflinger

            “Being a transgender at an early age is no longer something that Christians can deal with on their own”

            Sure that can. Deuteronomy 21 make it clear that the errant child should be stoned by the men of his city.

          • KP

            psychology (created by atheists to counter God) are vain philosophies of men. James 1:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
            The false church is teaching psychology and philosophies of men.

          • MamaBearly

            Nope still not a drop of love or compassion for anyone. Not even a prayer for the child who just came out to the other children, as that child is the one that needs to be cared about and for. It does not reflect the way Jesus would act in the same situation.
            I have little belief that you are a True Christian because you do not act like Jesus in any way except how you think Jesus was. The majority of religions around the world especially Christians, agree with Jesus being a loving God, not a hateful God.
            I will not ‘get along’ with someone who is teaching the gospel in the wrong way and leading people to leave the faith.
            If you don’t show any Christian like behavior, why should I believe you have any Christian beliefs at all. You obviously do not follow Jesus or you would know the complete Love package yourself. We cannot limit what he can do, but it is history that shows us how he has dealt with other similar times.
            If someone prays to God about anything, while believing and ending with In Jesus’ name, they cannot limit what God can do.
            Trust, Faith, Love. Tolerance Patience, and more are given as examples of things we need to do to be Christians so they can shine their lights for others to see.
            That is acting like a Christian, not dwelling always about the sin in this world, but keeping our Peace and Joy that Jesus gave to us.
            If you want to look at scriptures about the transgender issue and how Jesus told us to handle similar events too. Matthew 4-6 that’s Chapter 4 – 6

          • MamaBearly

            Amos, you go against God’s Word by your behaviour all the time. That means YOU are in REBELLION to God.
            How’s that fit for you?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            You should say instead, “Ignored by taking the time to address the person by typing in a response, and in doing so not ignoring at all.”

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignoring ………. because it annoys you ……..

          • Garbage Adams

            Just passing through to type a response in your non-ignoring way, then. I see.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            zzzzzzz ……. oh, yeah …. ignored ……….

          • MamaBearly

            Amos, those kids you made an example of are all high school age; it is illegal for a younger child to be unable to be in a school and educated. They have to accommodate what they have or the parents will have to make other arrangements for their education. They are not allowed to have no education by law, thank God!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………..

          • MamaBearly

            Hi Michael, I’m curious. What does “Cool beans” mean? I’ve never heard of that expression. You never know, I might want to use it too!
            Thanks and have a great day!

          • Michael C

            Cool beans is like “wow, that’s great!”

          • MamaBearly

            Thanks Michael! Blessings!

          • Garbage Adams

            There is plenty of science. You simply choose to pretend it is “fake science”.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignore ……………..

          • Garbage Adams

            As you do so many other things you are unable to face, yes.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ……….. AGAIN ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            Bully for you.

          • MamaBearly

            Bully IS you?

          • Jerome Horwitz

            There are no transgendered kids in schools. Only morally and mentally vacuous people looking to promote an agenda.

            As I said before, children are not toys or sperm receptacles. They are children.

          • WaldoWidget

            Did you ACTUALLY just say “sperm receptacles”, you colossal FOOL?

            WHAT about this story makes you think anyone is going to start RAPING children? And who would be the rapists? This is a GENDER IDENTITY issue and NOT an issue about pedophilia! Did you and Amos Moses go to the same fundie school?

          • MamaBearly

            You don’t need science just to prove there are kids in school who believe they are transgender. That’s what needed to be the focus, not whether or not science has proven it as real or not.
            There are kids who are accepted as transgender and there likely always will be now. Whether science backs it up or not it will be a fact, not something you can do anything about.
            What he meant, was that because there are transgender accepted children, the other children need to understand that they are different and that it is not a bad thing for that child. They don’t go on and ask if anyone else wants to be transgender, they talk about being kind to people who are different, whether it is a transgender child, or an immigrant. It keeps order in the school environment and that is not the transgender input. Schools base things on what is necessary to the children to learn about to be able to live their lives without conflict. That is what the schools are doing and they are also legally only to allow the transgender, so if someone doesn’t address the subject, it will be more of a disaster.
            I expect there is a directive for teachers to follow about it when it is necessary. Schools rarely bring things to young children without it being necessary and confusing/upsetting to the children. By discussing it there should be less problems associated with a transgender child and that means a better school environment for the children. Endorsing hate of someone who is ‘different’ is way, way out of a school’s way of doing things as they consider the children, not the adults, as it should be.
            It would be nice if Amos would read this. Maybe he’d learn something by accident; he’s done that before.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …… again …………

          • MamaBearly

            snicker snicker…. full belly laugh…. rolling on floor laughing

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored … once and yet again ……..

          • MamaBearly

            (Amos is) Alone again, Naturally!!!

        • Reason2012

          You’ve missed the point. I know you and others want to claim that beliefs override biological facts, but that is the opinion that is irrelevant. I know you think such people exist, but again, your opinion is irrelevant.

          The schools do not have to force everyone else to live in such an anti-biology fantasy world where beliefs override basic biological facts. It’s why now you have some people claiming to be trans-black, or some claiming to be trans-chidlren when they’re old and get adopted as a child and more. Because they’ve learned if you claim it enough, the left will champion it and you, forcing everyone else to get into that land of make believe with you lest you be called a bigot with a phobia.

          The schools have to deal with the fact that they do not have the authority to mentally abuse everyone else’s kids and grandkids just because of a few mentally disturbed adults to insist beliefs contradict basic biological facts, and use kids as pawns to force their perversion agenda on everyone else, forcing everyone lese to live in that delusion with them, abusing everyone else’s kids in the process.

          • Garbage Adams

            There is more to the issue of transgenderism than “biological facts”. There is also a mental component which you are electing to ignore. And you ignore it at your peril.

          • Reason2012

            Mental issues does not mean biological facts should be ignored. Of course there’s a mental component: it’s a mental problem the person needs help with (that those on the left do not want them to get help with, being content to use them and everyone else to promote their agenda), not a physical problem with basic biology.

          • Garbage Adams

            I didn’t say mental problem, I said mental component. In other words, you cannot look solely at the biological aspect, as you are doing. Not nearly every transgender person goes for surgery, by the way. That percentage is extremely small. The idea that 5-year old kids are being “mentally abused” is your religious take on the matter. To everyone else, they’re being exposed to a reality in this world rather than sheltered from it.

          • Nick Halflinger

            “abuse everyone else’s kids and grandkids just because of a few mentally disturbed adults insist beliefs override basic biological facts, “

            But unfortunately that is what will continue to happen, antiquated Christian belief, in denial of basic biological facts, will force their agenda on everyone else.

          • MamaBearly

            Not so far, the Christians that follow a hateful kind of God, have not been able to change the schools acceptance of transgenders. So, no, as much as Christians want it because of our belief, I don’t foresee them making any new headway with this.
            The problems will worsen when Christian children begin to go to their schools to tell them about how Mommy and Daddy tell them they are a sinner and hated by God. Just the fact that they won’t allow the child to be a transgender, will have those children removed from a Christian home.
            A lot of people feel that transgenders are figments of the persons mind, other than Christians, just as there are more haters of homosexuals than Christians only.
            The whole world have turned to acceptance in the transgender issue, the States won’t be able to reverse what has already been made law. Christians need to find another way to deal with this fast or we will not have our children to carry on our religion and it could make it lessen attendance more than it already is.
            I suggest they research it, talk to someone who is transgender adult and find out more about it so you can deal with it better, but I can’t see most of these Christians agreeing with “knowing your enemy” or even “love your enemy and do good to those who curse you”.
            Anyone who hates is not of Jesus/God. God IS love. Hate is darkness and love is light, and destroys the darkness.
            The people who would rather throw temper tantrums about not getting their way, don’t understand when Jesus told them to love everyone, nor do they understand the Golden Rule to Treat everyone the way you want to be treated. In my belief they are in the darkness, and need JESUS to take them out before it is too late.
            But, they don’t listen and the blind leads the blind aiming at a ditch.

          • Nick Halflinger

            “Heather Has Two Mommies” is 25 years old and still makes the list of most banned books in America every year. So yes, they have been able to change schools’ acceptance.

          • MamaBearly

            But they won’t be able to anymore. The laws have been made so those books will be allowed now. That’s why I say, we no longer have the control we did in the past.

          • Bob Johnson

            Actually these books are still being banned and this article shows that books such as the one the teacher read to her students must now have school district approval before being read.

            So instead of the teacher reading books selected by the students, a review committee must clear all material, even when the book, such as this one, is considered age appropriate.

          • MamaBearly

            I can’t disagree with that, as it protects the children from any nonsense that is to teach anything but tolerance. I expect the teacher was put into a position that required her to decide in ‘that’ minute what to do. It’s hard to say no to a child when you just asked them to pick a book for her to read to the class. It’s something done in kindergartens across the country. Each child has a turn to pick that day’s book. If she had said anything she would have had even more problems because of the questions about why she won’t read the book. She can’t teach intolerance, so she had to teach what she was trained to do, and that is to help the children with some life lessons and tolerance of differences is necessary in the society we are in these days.

            We both know that these books will be approved. Christians have no hope of stopping that without God helping them. I keep telling them to pray on this board but they would rather stamp their feet and complain and call people names.

            I’m very glad that the education system is making sure the books are right, as I expect someone does for other books too. They are usually listed on the front, and inside what ages the printer has had applied to the books. They are often at different reading levels too, sometimes the same book too. Everything that is in a Kindergarten is meant to help a child develop to the stage where they will sit still for a teacher and learn in a different way. They learn the pre needed things like numbers – including adding, subtracting, and for some, dividing and multiplying even. They need to try to include each child’s individual learning stage and even their social abilities. Kindergarten Teachers are one of the hardest jobs in the teaching profession. The people who teach it, are usually trained specifically for the job. It’s a special kind of person to be able to handle a class of ‘new to the concept of school’ children, without ripping their hair out. I know because I assisted teachers for Kindergarten to grade 4 children. I had a way that the more difficult children would listen to me and behave, so I was necessary to be able to have a class without the constant interruptions. It let me see for myself what problems that the teachers have each and every day with a class, if they are lucky, of less that 30 students. A lot of decisions have to be made in an instant in a situation like this, and they are not easy decisions some times. But refusing to read a child’s book choice? The whole class will question if the books they ask for will be refused too. It would possibly confuse them more by how they are answered.

            People who have never experienced being in a classroom with a kindergarten, have no idea of what they do. Before, during, at lunch, afternoon, and at home with every shopping trip list having something they can get “their” kids. The classroom and those children are often their whole world with no regrets. To criticize a kindergarten is a deplorable thing to do without have ever been there to see what it is really like for themselves.

        • Jerome Horwitz

          You’ve somehow missed the point entirely.

          No. He did not.

          Speaking only for myself, I have become well beyond sick and tired of being told there is something wrong with us for not accepting, without question or objection, something that is clearly abnormal, immoral, or both.

          We are being told children who do not even know what the words “boy” and “girl” mean, let alone the biological concepts behind them, somehow know they are not the right gender. That’s just flat bullfeces. This is being done deliberately to enlarge the numbers; to create confusion among children not even old enough to know how to tie their shoes.

          Where is the justification for this? There isn’t any. The LGBTQW community has shown no decency, no boundaries. You can’t keep your cottonpickin’ hands off of our kids because they were part of your design all along.

          • Roger Greenslade

            We can all do without the racist comments, sir. Keep the references to cotton picking off this channel.

          • Don’t be so stupid snowflake.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            He’s either trying to be funny or trolling. Either way a response isn’t needed.

          • WaldoWidget

            Eat cow shit, Dougie.

          • Roger Greenslade

            Don’t be so racist, Doug.

          • I don’t have a racist bone in my body.

          • Roger Greenslade

            You’re defending the use of the phrase “cotton picking”. That isn’t good.

          • Why is that racist and toward what race?

          • Roger Greenslade

            Blacks. The slaves picked cotton.

          • You and MamaBearly need to read up on your history.

          • Roger Greenslade

            Wikipedia: “Field slaves in the United States”.
            Tell me what history I need to read up on.

          • MamaBearly

            As I said below, I have lived long enough to know that cotton picker is a way to insult blacks by referring to their slave background. You can’t tell me it isn’t a part of history because I lived it. It is part of MY history.

          • Roger Greenslade

            I couldn’t agree more. It’s a vile choice of phrase and Jerome should know better.

          • LOL

          • MamaBearly

            Are you from another planet? Cotton pickers has always been an insulting way to speak about blacks. As if you didn’t know, but I wanted to make sure other readers realized your racism.

          • You and your boy Roger Greenslade need to read up on your history.

          • MamaBearly

            It’s not history for me, I’m old enough to remember it on my own from my own life. Nice attempt but it was a dud.

          • If you want to go through life thinking the way you do….have at it. You are entitled to be wrong.

          • MamaBearly

            So are you. I know because of my life experience, and you think you can top that with a Wikipedia article?
            You have an incredible imagination when you want your way,

          • What Wikipedia article?

          • MamaBearly

            Oh Lord give me patience!
            The comment where you posted a link was deleted. Rats I should be more careful about not asking for the comment to not be deleted. I’ll watch for this kind of behaviour in the future, that’s for sure.
            Lying is against the Word of God too. Any kind of intentional deception is a sin because it is Against God’s Word.
            Regardless I found the article when I clicked on your link; and it was not representing what we were talking about in the first place.

          • I honestly do not remember and I do not appreciate you calling me a liar.

          • KP

            I had to reread the comment to see if you are serious. Are you serious about cotton picking being racist. My white grandparents & parents grew up picking cotton. I picked cotton. It is a slang, non-cursing term like doggone. If you are serious, you scare me.

          • MamaBearly

            You can google it quite easily. They often picked cotton on the Plantations.
            A Christian does not fear because they trust God to take care of them, Read the Gospel. Please.

          • MamaBearly

            First of all, children of school age are very well aware of gender differences in some way or form. They may not know the parts that are different, but they do know there is a difference.
            For this I will give you an example: if you saw a boy playing with dolls and having a tea party with them, you would automatically pull him away and give him action army figures, or trucks and cars to play with. Whether the child wanted to play tea party or not, you would discourage it.
            The children that ‘feel’ differently will not understand why they can’t play what they want to, which is a tea party. Remember, it is originally a thing they want to play, but by making it more, you are putting an emphasis on the “girl” “boy” gender thing because of your belief, and it makes them try to figure it out especially if there is any anger expressed about the tea party. You could actually make a child feel like they must be a girl because Daddy says playing tea party is a girl thing, so I must be a girl, not a boy!
            Most of the time, if it is not a genuine ‘feeling’ children will grow out of it, but if they don’t then you have to face the fact whether you are Christian or not.
            They are not trying to spread their perversion, BTW, they are asking to be treated properly and not as if they are criminals. By putting their lifestyles and appearances into the public eye, people will get used to them and not condemn them as often. By introducing it to the children, they are not as likely to exclude the child and be mean to them. Whether the child is transgender or not, that is not right to do to a child – making them a focus of negative attention. It doesn’t work the way it did in my younger days. When there were children that other children heard something about from their parents talking in front of them, the children would surround the child(ren) and tease them and demean them for being children of those parents. Nothing like making it worse for the children that are already going through something with their parents. the shame had no where to go because it was not their own shame.
            By the time your grand kids have grown, being around transgenders will either have faded, or they will be adjusted to them being in their “World” lives. You should not treat a person badly at any time, so even if you disagree, you should not be treating them as the enemy. They just want to live their lives, and be accepted. Ironically, if Christians had realized earlier that sinners were supposed to be treated with love to lead them to Jesus and create a desire within themselves to repent, and if they had done that, the whole issue would have been a non-issue because they would have already had Equal rights and not have such a big effect on the public. Because they were forced to take a stand for their rights, and everyone agrees that they should have those rights, it has become a media circus and everyone in the world has been affected.
            As a Christian, I don’t understand why we think we have the right to say that non-believers should not get married or anything else, that is a human right, not about abetting their sin. I don’t know how denying them marriage ended up denying them Equal Rights as Jesus never said to do that to anyone and we are not supposed to be punishing sinners anyway.
            As long as a Christian is not forced into going into their bedroom and, I dunno, handing them what they need for their sex, you cannot abet a homosexual at their sin. By asking them to not offend our beliefs nicely, it would have been more effective than demanding it.
            So, really, Christians need to learn that Jesus wants us to act with love towards everyone, and if you start off by talking about the hate of the sin, you are not showing love. You have to start off with the love, and tell them about Jesus and his love, and Salvation and then repentance, or they will never even listen. Jesus said that If they do not know the gospel, they can not be considered sinners as it is the knowledge of what sins are in relation to our beliefs, that makes them sinners in Jesus’ eyes. That’s in the scriptures.
            You know, most gays are really nice people with a lot of love to share, they are not corrupted in their behaviour other than their sin. Most are very polite when treated politely back, and would give their shirts off their backs to help someone – even a stranger – even someone who was just shouting at them about hell, if that was the situation. You don’t see the ones that behave properly towards everyone because you are seeing what the media wants you to see.
            Try asking some who are transgender as adults about it and get an understanding of it so you can actually deal with it for what it is, by that research. Not understanding your “enemy” is not a good approach in any opposition issue, is it? So try finding out from someone who knows what it feels like and why they feel so strongly about the way they are, and maybe it will make it easier to find the way for you to oppose it. It isn’t considered hanging around sinners only to find out how to deal with them, is it? I honestly think Jesus would want us to live and let live once they know about salvation. And that includes having equal rights the same as everyone else, regardless of their sin.

    • Jerome Horwitz

      there’s no such thing as transgender kids.

      Thank you. That’s the first sensible thing I have ever read from you.

    • cadcoke5

      “I know what you’re thinking… there’s no such thing as transgender kids. Well, actually, whether you like it or not, there are transgender kids.”

      What about other disorders, like Body dysmorphic disorder related to weight. For example, a child who feels they are overweight, and doesn’t want to eat lunch. Should’t they be given approval, rather than the adults saying things, “You look malnourished”? They need respect rather than hate! Schools should deal with this also. Congratulate them on their self discipline when they tell you they have lost another pound! /sarcasm

      • Nick Halflinger

        It would seem straightforward – every disorder receives the best proper medical help. Some disorders, such as mental capacity associated with Down’s syndrome, may require different levels of help based on severity of the condition.

        • Jerome Horwitz

          Unless you live in Iceland. But I digress.

          • MamaBearly

            I see it clearly now. you aren’t from this planet! You are from Mars … according to your profile picture anyway.

    • Helena Handbasket

      If the book says “2 + 2 = 5,” then the book is wrong.

      Children can distinguish between male and female. A bunch of pedophiles trying to warp their thinking is just plain child abuse.

      • Garbage Adams

        What does this story have to do with pedophiles? Who’s trying to engage a child in sexual intercourse?

        • bwgirl

          The way to “condition” children to pedophilia is to break down social norms, introduce sexual topics that they are too young to even understand, never mind the fact that they can’t really reject the stuff because they don’t really know what it is.

          They are defiling children!

          • Garbage Adams

            It is NOT a SEXUAL TOPIC.

            It’s not anything more than explaining that some boys feel like they are girls and vice versa. Tell me where the sex comes in, PLEASE, I really want to know!

          • bwgirl

            IT most definitely is a sexual topic!

          • Garbage Adams

            If you are old enough to know the difference between a boy and a girl, you are ready to handle the subject of transgenderism. It is completely unrelated to the topic of sexual intercourse.

          • bwgirl

            Quit spouting garbage and false information.

            Defiling the minds of children is an abomination. PERIOD!

      • MamaBearly

        I fail to see any pedophiles in this article. As a Christian, if you are, you should not be badmouthing anyone, and especially not strangers. It is not a Christian like behaviour.
        The people are not trying to warp anything. the teachers are dealing with it in the best interests of all of the children, and accepting people who are different is a major teaching subject these days. Children will have to live in this world after we are gone and they need to learn to deal with it without the hate the adult show people who are different. There are more than just transgender “differences” that need to be addressed with the children in today’s classrooms every day because of our diversity of people. The children are taught the proper manners of not being rude to people who are different in any way. They certainly can not be taught to behave badly towards one difference and then accepting and kind to another difference.
        Please stop putting people into a picture without them actually being there. Gays are not pedophiles and neither are transgenders. They are sinners in a Christian view, but we all are sinners and they are not all sinners of all sins that are remotely like theirs, anymore than we are with what sins we do.
        For example, my son has seen movies and read books and all sorts of things on the internet about murder. It does not mean he will be a murderer, does it? If I have a friend who is a smoker, I don’t have to smoke just because I see it and accept that they smoke. Smoking is a sin. If you are good friends with a smoker, you are accepting their sin against God’s Word. Would you want to tell your non-believing friend that you can’t associate with them because they smoke and it is a sin?
        He’s in his 30’s now so it’s not an issue you need to concern yourself with, and can focus on what this article is telling us.
        Your Christian view would do more damage to innocent children that teaching acceptance of differences. Teaching them about the transgenders being different is not like they are promoting the behaviour at all. But because there are now non-believers’ transgender children in the schools it is up to you to teach your children that you do not believe in it yourself for religious reasons, and let the teachers teach them how to accept differences so they can have a better environment in the schools with no hate, or bullying, or anything nasty done for any reason to anyone. Teaching your children to be able to longsuffer and cope with the situation is a much more reasonable way of teaching a child the hate of the sin. Otherwise your child will be the problem because of their behaviour towards someone who is different. Regular calls from the school for meetings kind of problems.
        Why do Christians so often forget to love everyone and they think that showing hatred for sin is not what Jesus showed us as the behaviour he wants us to follow to be Christ-like Christians, who represent Him on earth to others who do not yet know them.
        Jesus still loves the transgenders whether you like it or not. He loves all his children and wants all to know about Salvation by repentance. He won’t stop loving them just because they are sinners. And he wants His followers to behave with love too.
        You are the ones that want them to abuse the children, not the teachers. They are trying to prepare the children for the future and regardless of whether or not we approve of the way they do it, it will help the children to be able to grow up and be able to work with people who are different than they are, as adults.
        Otherwise, not teaching them about their differences will limit their abilities to find a job by the time they are old enough to work. It will cause more problems for your child than it will cause those who are different because they must tolerate the differences if they cannot agree with them. Teaching them hate of the person because of the sin is flat out wrong. Teaching them acceptance and making examples of yourself as Christians will take them farther than teaching them not to accept the transgender children.

  • Barefoot

    Darn those parents, always meddling in their kids’ lives! The nerve!

    • MamaBearly

      Yeah, how come they do that anyways LOL.
      Love your comment. Nice sarcasm, well played. Thanks!

  • Straight up child abuse and the adults responsible should be prosecuted but that is not going to happen because the laws that should be in place against this perversion to protect the children are non existent.

  • Nidalap

    Every would-be dictator wants control over a people’s children without the parents having a say in the matter…

    • MamaBearly

      I guess that leaves out Trump. He waves his hand and tells the individual states to deal with them.

  • AustinRocks

    Motto of Progressives: WEY – Warp ‘Em Young.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    California Proposes Jail Time for Using the Wrong Pronoun for Transgenders:THE INSANITY AND MENTALLY ILL POLITICIANS IN CALIFORNIA ARE EVEN IMAGINE-CRIMINALIZING FREE SPEECH ………….. SQ ……….

  • Amy

    Good on the school! Transgender people are here to stay and it sounds like this book helped a young child cope.

    • Jerome Horwitz

      So you are okay with this?

      What is the matter with you?

      • Amy

        Why would we not be okay with this? Transgender people are part of our society.

        • Jerome Horwitz

          So are coprophages. Doesn’t mean we need to say it’s normal and accept it.

          • Roger Greenslade

            Comparing people with gender identity issues with people who eat waste. That’s classy.

          • They both are influenced by the demonic.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            Both are mental illnesses. Get over it.

          • Roger Greenslade

            Jerome, between you and I, which of us would you say has more things he needs to “get over”? I’ll give you a hint – I take no issue with this story other than there was some consultation that should have taken place with the parents. You are oddly seeing pedophilia in a situation that is related entirely to transgendered children.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            *yawn*

            I’m sorry…what?

          • Roger Greenslade

            I take no issue with children being educated with things they are going to encounter in the real world. Obviously you do.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            No, children shouldn’t be exposed to this. I’ve already explained why.

          • Roger Greenslade

            And your explanation didn’t make sense. You are looking at the educators as these very predatory beings for some reason.

          • Jerome Horwitz

            What part of it doesn’t make sense?

          • Roger Greenslade

            “I am personally for not talking about sex in a school classroom at all”

            Nobody IS. Transgenderism has nothing to do with sexual activity.

            “This is being done deliberately to enlarge the numbers; to create
            confusion among children not even old enough to know how to tie their shoes.”

            All that is is a very strong opinion bordering on conspiracy theory with no facts to back it up.

            “Both are mental illnesses.”

            No, neither one is a mental illness. Have you read what the American Psychological Association says on the matter? Or do you disbelieve them because you don’t like their findings?

          • Jerome Horwitz

            You are all over the map.

            1) Out of context. Irrelevant.

            2) Really? Only a liar and a fool would make such a statement.

            3) The American Psychological Association published the Rind study. Their opinion is no longer relevant.

            4) You want to call me a racist for using the phrase, “cottonpickin’?” You are a flat imbecile. You are blocked.

          • Roger Greenslade

            1) No it’s not out of context OR irrelevant. You speak of transgenderism in this forum as though it’s got something to do with sexual intercourse. It doesn’t. The context could not be clearer.

            2) I am a liar and a fool because I don’t buy into conspiracy theory? How interesting. It isn’t “confusing” children to teach them that transgendered people exist.

            3) The American Psychological Association, whether you like them or not, are at the forefront of science and always have been.

            4) If you say “cotton pickin” you need to understand why its origins are offensive and by extension why you are being offensive by using it.

          • Garbage Adams

            Oh here we go again. Insult and run away. As usual.

        • Reason2012

          Those into pedophilia and bestiality are also “part of our society” – doesn’t mean we expose everyone else’s kids and grandkids to it.

          • Nick Halflinger

            Basically because one is legal and the other two are illegal.

          • Amy

            When ever social conservatives go to “pedophilia and bestiality” it is normally good practice to disregard to the rest of the statement. Especially when every day religious people indoctrinate their children into their personal cult.

          • Reason2012

            While you seemingly support activists going after everyone else’s 5 year old kids, not just their own, to fill their minds with images and ideas of homosexual perversion and trasngenderism, which makes your words fall flat.

          • Amy

            You doubled down on the stupidity instead of admitting you were wrong. Transgender and gay people are members of western society. Get used to them being here!

          • Reason2012

            The issue is not about “them being here” – never said a word about that. It’s about activists filling the minds of 5 year olds with images and ideas of such things. Huge difference.

      • WaldoWidget

        What’s the matter with YOU, snowflake? Teaching kids that not everyone is a white racist bigot like you is somehow a problem?

  • Lydia Church

    Homosexuality is a sin and transgender and anything else like that too, anything not binary regarding gender. You are born a boy or girl and that is what you stay. Period. Teaching and normalizing this is a sin because this gender perversion is a sin. Shame on that teacher. They are discriminating against normalcy. They should be sued for that, indoctrinating innocent babies into sin and traumatizing them. Next thing it will be pedophiles, claiming how much they ‘love’ ‘children’. Sick! Parents, don’t trust anyone in public schools, many have an agenda. Once you learn of it, fight back! You don’t have to take this, it’s your child’s education. Tell your kid ahead of time what is sin and what to look out for, or they will be prey for the gaystapo agenda and the false religion agenda. People fought back against the islamic indoctrination agenda in San Diego public schools, and won. So don’t be a coward. Thanks.

  • Honesty Counts

    There is no scientific proof that homosexuality/transgenderism is normal or built into our DNA.
    It should be criminal to teach homosexuality/transgenderism/gayness in public schools. From what we know scientifically it is a choice that people make either consciously or unconsciously
    No child under the age of 12 should be introduced to any type of sexual education, and it should be reserved for those in middle/Jr. High school.
    That being said, sex education should only deal with proven and scientific biological data, not theories or politically correct propoganda.

  • tigersfan61

    That teacher should have been fired…but that is what happens in the land of fruits and nuts…I hope they vote to secede…good riddance.

    • MamaBearly

      Why should she be fired when it was a book that one of her students wanted her to read. We don’t even know if the child knew what the book was about.
      But you know, humans make mistakes. Even God knew that from the beginning.
      Because the child asked during a time that was a daily routine, the teacher could not refuse because of the laws. She would not just lose her job, she would be arrested for NOT reading the book.
      All of you calling this child abuse do not know anything about Children and the way their minds actually think as they grow older in the classrooms. I do.
      Children will not just pick this up like it is a trend, if they are comfortable with themselves they will stay exactly as they are. If they are not, they will usually want to explore the option before any big decision is made; maybe it won’t make them feel any more comfortable and the whole thing would already be over for everyone.
      The thing is new to most of us, not just to Christians.
      I researched it so I would know more about it, and it made me feel that I could Trust God to take care of these children and do what He feels is best, knowing far, far more than we could ever know, or even imagine.
      Sometimes we have to allow God to take control and watch and wait. The transgender issue in the world has been accepted everywhere, and there are laws already made about it.
      Protest with Christian behaviour and be careful not to say anything negative loud enough for others to hear in public, or you can be jailed.
      Or watch and wait, and see what God has in mind for us now.
      History is chalk full of things that God did, so this one shouldn’t be anything different. Unless of course it is the end times warnings that these issues are mentioned. The world would be turning against God before the times too.
      Blessings!

      • tigersfan61

        Here is what God has in store…JUDGMENT! I have been in education for the last 15 years and I think I know a thing or two as well…this is insidious behavior…there is NO place in a kindergarten class for discussion of sexual issues…Period! And especially this issue that is still be fleshed out at all levels of education in our country today…Yes God knows more than we can imagine, as He knows IT ALL…but God also gave us a mind and common sense that requires us to speak truth within our culture…

        • MamaBearly

          As I said to the other poster, fine – I agree that children are being taught things way too early for what I believe they should be. They should be allowed to be children first then be in the world.
          I never once said we should not speak out! I never said I agreed with any of this.
          I’m actually pretty neutral because my own children are too old to be affected and I have no guarantee of grandchildren, so what I see is without the shadow of the staggering duty we as parents have to have while balancing what the world insists we have for the child, and coming out with a child with our own beliefs.

          I am only saying that speaking out is all that we can do. We can not go back. it won’t happen any more than it has in the past.
          we have to adjust our lives when the world changes and accepts a sin as normal.
          We should be able to protect our child simply be being good Christian examples to our children, and by teaching them our own beliefs. They will be able to get along in the world that they will have to live in, and they will see us as good people, and they will keep our beliefs. It’s up to us to make sure our children are taught our belief so they will not stray once they are out on their own, where they will be tempted.

          • Reason2012

            I am only saying that speaking out is all that we can do. We can not go back. it won’t happen any more than it has in the past.

            Trying to convince Christians to accept_sexual sin being legally forced on everyone else’s kids and grandkids against the will of their own parents does not bode well.

            By the grace of God it’s always possible to go back. All those who support it and/or try to convince others to just sit back and accept it (same thing, really) will be accountable to God as well.

          • MamaBearly

            You can’t read what I am saying or you keep twisting it.
            I have NOT said I think we need to SUPPORT it. I have not once said that I agree with it. NOT once.
            The point I keep trying to make is that by law we have our hands tied.
            The other point I keep trying to make you understand that it will be very hard for you to teach a 4-5 year old that it is alright to tolerate other differences in people – like race, or disabled – but not to have tolerance Only for the people YOU can’t tolerate.
            Tell me something – where is the love of the sinner? where have you once said that you pray for these people? Where have you ever sounded compassionate like Jesus was. You haven’t. All you can think of the the act of the sin. That’s your dirty mind. That act is such a small part of gays lives, exactly the way it is with straight people.
            I Know my Jesus, and he loves everyone sinners included. And he told us to be the same, showing our love and caring to ALL – not just the people you don’t know their sins.
            It will not be possible to go back to the way it was without God. I said that over and over. He is the ONLY one who can change what is happening in our world. We are only humans and have no ability to do that change like God can.
            I am not saying sit back. I told you to keep talking about our belief, but until God does make it go back, we have to work around it. We can’t go against the law or our children will suffer for it. Do you think God would approve of teaching a child to be intolerant of ANYONE?
            I’m not worried about being accountable to God, because he is with me and he knows what I say here. I know I am right about what I post. You on the other hand have not read and understood the gospel and need to read it again, maybe more than once, to be able to UNDERSTAND the love Jesus TOLD us to have for each other.
            By the way, I love God more than my own life, but I don’t recall God ever reversing something that went against his Word that has happened in our world. I think that is considered interfering with free will, and he promised he would not interfere with it.
            I can only suggest you pray about these things and have God tell you what you should do. If you can’t hear God tell you what to do? You are not of God.

          • KP

            It’s not us that can’t tolerate this, it is God that it is an abomination to. You can’t pick and chose which scripture you decide to follow.
            James 1: 8 Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do.

          • MamaBearly

            Be careful how you speak to me. I do not disrespect you do not disrespect me.
            you know what. Prove to me that the scriptures I talk about and that things I have said are not in the Word, and are not Jesus’ words.

            If you can’t understand that Jesus was part human while he was here, that is YOUR problem not mine. God gave all power and authority to his son, so according to you, and ignoring the differences between God and Jesus, God gave all power and authority BACK to himself.

            God is a spirit, Jesus was both spirit and human.
            Spirits cannot die, and cannot bleed. That is why Jesus’ human side had to be present for the sacrifice of his crucifixion to be equal to the sacrifice of the animals which was about the blood being able to allow it to be sacrifice to God for sin.

            Spirits would not have to conquer death either. It was Jesus’ spirits that conquered death, not the powerful part of Jesus. By only being a spirit, it would not accomplish dying for our sins. There had to be certain elements in the way the crucifixion was done. God does nothing without a reason. There was a reason to allow a human side of Jesus to exist.
            To tell us that Jesus understands because he was human just like us.
            To allow his blood to be drawn as the animals that were sacrificed to atone for their sin.
            To allow his pain to show and to allow Jesus to be human when he was carrying his cross and being put on the cross. He would not have felt the nails go in as a Spirit.
            He would not feel the anguish of his Father turning away from him.
            He would not experience death at all, and his spirit would not have been able to conquer death as a spirit of the Lord alone. As I said, Spirits do not die, and do not have to conquer death as we do.
            The fact that God himself told us that Jesus was his beloved only begotten son and he was proud of him, said that he was not God himself, but God’s son. Jesus is OF God, and with the authority of all things given to him he became the God he was meant to be from creation. God was not alone when he created man, he was with Jesus. It is their image that Adam was created, and it mentions how we were given the image of who was speaking and who he was speaking to.
            The thing is, we can show each other the way we believe in scriptures so we both have something that Jesus wanted, but your church is not the same as mine and we will not know the right way until after the end days. Neither of us is wrong because we quote scriptures, but your focus is a different focus than my own. You seem to think it’s all about the sin. I believe it is all about the Love Jesus wants us to have for everyone.
            Parents do not need to show hate of doing things wrong because they are teaching them the difference between right and wrong. All we need to do is make sure they know it and most children will want to do what their parents tell them when they are too small to be independent of them. ‘Correction’ is for after the child shows that they can recognize right from wrong. Correction that is given with love does not make a child feel hated by their parents – well at least it shouldn’t. The way you talk, you want to yell at people and make them feel hated because they sin. There is a difference between making them feel like that, and how we treat the people who come to our church as new members. We are kind and tell them about everything and never ever show them hate for them for their sin.
            Why is it right to show hate towards anyone in the first place.
            We should be teaching them about the love that makes us want to correct them in the first place, not the hate of what they do, oh and by the way I tell you this because even though I don’t know a thing about you, I love you and I only want the best for you.” Without the words they can’t believe you love them, and they only know your hate. And since the sin is a part of them, it is hate for the person.
            But it isn’t supposed to be.
            When people don’t understand it isn’t rebellion from God every time. Sometimes it really is not understanding. How do you tell them more when they think you hate them and won’t want to listen to how much you hate them as they expect.
            You expect Jesus to be hateful towards sinners so you read the scriptures with the expected hate in your mindset.
            I expect Jesus to be a Wonderful Loving God who loves not just me, but everyone and he wants us to love everyone the way he loves us.
            It is easy to love God with all my heart and all my soul, all my mind and all my strength when I see how much he loves me.
            Without true Agape love, the world will not be a happier place than it is now without it.
            A world of love is what we all dream of when we think of heaven, but we don’t act like it and Jesus wants the followers to be given Salvation that keep his “statutes” after they accept Jesus into our lives. He doesn’t just want anyone, he wants the ones that actually follow everything he told us and not just the part about sin.

            You realize that insulting me is a sin? I have not given you any reason to insult me or to treat me badly. The only thing I have done is disagree with how you think because I looked into it rather than hear the media propaganda that you listen to. I asked PEOPLE. and that mixed with my life Experience, I know the Truth that Jesus wants us to know. Since you will obviously not read the scriptures I speak about and consider them as a possible correction to how you believe, there is not a point in continuing this discussion. I’ve considered what you say and have read the scriptures that others have given me again and again, and the scriptures I refer to are to show MORE about what Jesus wants us to be like and not about sin, because he expects his followers to try to not sin.

            Blessings!

          • tigersfan61

            Yes, progressives are trying to teach children while they are young and impressionable and THAT is why we MUST speak out and decry what is happening in our country…I see your heart and desire that all would come to the same faith that we share and that’s great…however…we must stand against the wiles of the devil and having done ALL, to stand…

          • MamaBearly

            I do have no problem with standing up for our beliefs. None whatsoever. I stand proudly as a representative of Christ.
            I just know that we do not have a priority in this world and others do not think like we do. We have to be able to tolerate everyone. Shouldn’t the teachers teach the same thing?
            We can’t walk up to a transgender and call them names. We have to be tolerant of sinners and non-believers and compassionate about telling them the hope of salvation by repentance. We certainly can’t expect others to know the gospel because that is not likely. I didn’t until I was in my 50’s.
            I don’t think that they are trying to teach them to be like the others, just to tolerate them. Understanding leads to tolerance, which leads to peace and love, two things Jesus wanted.
            Because you are so against the idea of transgenders because of our God’s Word, you are not giving them the compassion they need to change. We can’t expect non-believers to want to change without the gospel.
            Please look again. You will see that it is about tolerance, not about anything else, just tolerance. They don’t want all the children to become transgenders, all they are asking is that people allow them the same rights we all have and be tolerated for their differences. To tolerate does not mean acceptance. We tolerate each other every day. You smoke? I tolerate it. You swear, I tolerate it. I don’t start smoking and swearing.
            Just knowing that someone is different in that way, does not make children want to be like them, but children don’t care about differences the way adults do, so it is best to teach them tolerance early. it is a life lesson to help the children through their whole lives not just the early years of school.
            Teaching them to tolerate transgenders is like teaching a horse to allow a donkey into the barn. It has to be tolerated whether the horses like it or not. This is the same with any people who are different in any way. You cannot be intolerant in today’s society unless you want to have a lot of legal problems. Children need to learn it so they won’t bully someone who is different. Is it wrong to teach them that?
            Spreading the Love Jesus wants us to all have for each other is not dependent on whether they are sinners because we are all sinners. Jesus loves the sinners too.
            He doesn’t want them hurt, he wants them saved. He doesn’t want them to believe he doesn’t love them, because he does love them. Just like he loves us. How is teaching a child to tolerate a difference against God’s Word in of itself? Teaching them that it is what they have to do is one thing. Teaching them only tolerance is quite another thing altogether. And teaching a child that it is alright to be intolerant to one difference and not to another is confusing to a child that young. Teaching a child to love everyone is not against any law, and it will bring a lot more peace than teaching intolerance for the PEOPLE who sin, instead of for the sin itself.
            Thank you for your post. I do appreciate that you recognize that I do follow the bible, and I hope I helped you understand what is actually happening so you will understand why this is happening in our younger classrooms. It’s not going against God’s Word to be tolerant.

          • tigersfan61

            The problem is that children are impressionable and their minds are made up by the time they are around 15-18 years of age. The schools in this country have become incubators for aberrant sexual behavior and we are seeing the results of that with all the teachers having sex with students these days…No…children should not be taught this stuff, period…they need to be taught how to read and write and how to add and subtract and the history of this great country and not be a place for social experiments …nothing wrong with tolerance, but what you have to understand is that these folks do not want just tolerance, they want acceptance to the point of either locking people up who disagree OR ruining them financially…Yes the Lord Jesus wants us to love one another and to understand that we should tolerate others but you have the ability to make that distinction whereas children do not…and quite frankly no child has the ability to “change their gender at that age” without some help from someone…

          • MamaBearly

            I’m not going to argue with how you feel. All I can do is give you the information that I can provide honestly to show you that the fears you are having are not necessary.
            Well, I can’t honestly say whether any child could feel uncomfortable with who they are, and any change for some things would be welcome to the child who is having problems.
            Some things just do not get helped by therapy.
            I can’t have an honest opinion about a child who has been assessed as having gender dysphoria. I have not researched it to know the facts.
            But I do know children very well, and that is where my experience tells me that the majority of the children in kindergarten do not have this problem and likely never will.
            By the age of 4 they know who they are in their own minds and that includes the description of their gender.
            I can’t see in my experience that children would be likely to do little more than question it, be told the bare bones and forget about it. Like they do when they ask where babies come from at that age, you tell them they come from the hospital and that is often enough of an answer for them.
            The world has changed and although we do not change our faith to align with the world, because we have to associate with in many ways, we as Adults need to show tolerance to gays, transgenders and any other sinners. We aren’t supposed to judge people on their sin in the first place. So there should not even be a list of people of the different sins. These people are sinners all of them, by our belief. BUT they are people and Jesus would not want them to be treated badly. So as I asked Reason 2012 what is your plan to change the situation without it going to the point of the whole world accepting this as ‘normal’ against how our beliefs are. I can’t see anything that would change the way the whole world is reacting to this issue.
            If you and Reason 2012 can come up with a workable plan, I’d be interested in it and if it is workable and won’t cause worse problems I will stand behind it.
            I am being realistic about where the world is heading. Our children’s world when they are our age is going to be a TOTALLY different world, just like each generation finds at some point of their lives. I find it totally different than the world I lived in when I was growing up. SMH totally!
            All I want to do otherwise is warn you about how to teach your child about sin and these children. Causing them to be intolerant at school will not work. They will be centered out, and it will end up making a difference to how your child gets through school. I just don’t want the Christian children to grow up with intolerance in this world. It just won’t be able to make for a happy life. I care more about the children than I do the Adults who are worked up about the books. I am concerned with their well-being, because they have a whole life in front of them, and if they are able to stay Christians, they are the future of our faith. It’s important to consider all the possibilities of what consequences there will be for your child if they show anything but tolerance.
            Whatever happens will impact them for the rest of their lives, and if it is in a bad way, it could cause a lot of trouble down the road, and I don’t mean about the trans issue either. Being centered out can often lead to inner emotions that end up in depression. We’ve been hearing more about young children of like 8yrs wanting to, or trying to commit suicide. That should NEVER happen. If it is about gender issues, I would rather allow it and give the child therapy, but screwing around with things that are subconscious is not a job for just anyone. I would rather leave it to a professional. I am able to interview them and find out their methods and their view on the gender issue. I’d rather have the truth from an expert and consider it my sign from God if there is something that has to be treated. God does give us help in times of distress, it’s just that it comes in the form of a doctor, or a friend who can listen. Anything whether it is worldly or not, if it helps with a situation, it comes from God and our prayers.
            Blessings!

          • tigersfan61

            Gee…where to begin…agreed that the majority of children do not have the problem of trans-gender confusion…still not the issue…the fact is that children are vulnerable..You don’t need to “warn” me about anything as all my children are grown and even if they were not, again no warning would be necessary…You wonder if about children “if they are able to stay Christians”..well if they are genuinely Christian, and 5 year olds are a little early to make that faith decision, they will REMAIN Christian…Jesus said in John 10:27-30 (NKJV), ‘My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”
            In other words, if anyone is genuinely in Christ, he will remain in Christ.
            If your “experts” are not giving Godly advice from the Word of God, then they are not sent by God and they are certainly not a sign from God…Blessings

          • MamaBearly

            Unfortunately too many children of Christian households rebel when they are out of the house, but I have heard that they are the ones that are coming back too. Living without God was too much for them I am guessing.
            Yes 5 is too young and so is an infant when they are ‘baptized’ by water. Neither of them can make a confession of sin, or swear that they will never leave the faith. My church blesses children the way Jesus did, and we baptize as adults, with 13-14 generally being the age the kids want to commit themselves if they do.
            I never said they wouldn’t come back to the faith. I just have watched the way it has been happening and it is a cycle of believing because of your family belief, rebelling because they “know better” and “don’t need God” then either they go all the way to hell, or when they mature to that one point, like marriage maybe, they find they need God again. And if not continuously, they baptize their babies even though they have left the church. I considered myself an Anglican for 50 years because I was first baptized as a baby in an Anglican church. Never went to church, but I was baptized! That was ‘enough’ for me. Until I was baptized as an adult. Changed my religion too.
            I disagree – if God has brought an expert, surgeon, he picked him for his ability not for his faith. He would not bring an expert that wasn’t one of faith unless the one that he calls is the only one God feels will be able to help his child. Remember, he loves all of us, even the unbelieving sinners. He would not bring anyone if he could not bring the best for them.
            God can do anything and he often directs a non-believer to do his ‘work’ as well as the faithful. It depends on whether it will interfere or encourage His Word whether he would let a non-believer help. You have to remember there are some – maybe many – doctors that just want to help the patient and have no agenda for any patient other than to help them get to a point that they no longer need to return to them (psychiatrists, psychotherapists, and those of the same group)
            To some the religion of their patient is of no consequence because it is not their religion that is a problem, such as the Transgender child. It isn’t that they do not believe in God’s Word, it is that they, along with a large portion of the States do not know the Word at all. A child should not be shamed about something or risk the consequences – resentment – rebellion – acting out like stealing – and it is better not to take the risk.
            Making sure as Parents to get a doctor who cares more about the well-being of your child, by having an interview with each one before you decide if his methods ‘fit” into what you would want. Make sure the child is comfortable as this is essential to whether they will speak at all, or speak enough.
            My children are also grown and gone, but I can’t ignore something like this where I know people do not think about the child enough, and only care that their family will not be ashamed in Church. People must understand that just “correcting” a child with this issue could create a worse issue from the correction, before they have to make any decisions if it comes to it being necessary to at all.
            God would not want us to harm a child mentally either. If a child is having gender dysphoria, it is better to deal with the issue than to shame a child and try to force them to “change” how they ‘feel’. Trying to force anything is a failure just because if it was truly the ‘right’ way, it would not need force. Children tend to be more stubborn about things they are “NOT ALLOWED” to do. Force is never the way to go.
            If God wants to direct a non believer to help he would enable them. God is able to do anything, even use a non-believer.
            Blessings!

          • tigersfan61

            Not referring to Medical doctors as they are helping to heal the body…but as far as the mind goes, anyone who is not dispensing Godly advice/wisdom from the Word of God is NOT sent by God to anyone…and again, if one is genuinely saved, no matter the age, they are saved by God through Jesus as it is a work of God…John writes in I John 2:19 (NKJV), “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.”
            Glad you came to know Jesus as Savior! Blessings…

          • MamaBearly

            You do not need to be a Christian to be an incredible doctor. If God chose a non-believer because God knew his capabilities, do you not think he would still use him. The Lord used me to do things before I even knew Him.
            You know, not all non-believers are evil. I lived by the Golden Rule all my life and was very Christian like in the way I lived, but had not gone to a church for much more than 2 visits, and a few weddings. Funerals seem to be done in chapels of the Funeral Homes now.
            I am positive that there are many incredibly skilled doctors that are not believers that work in the psychology field. Would you really refuse on based on his religion/non religion? Wouldn’t you want the best if they were not known to have an agenda and did amazing work with children not leaning either way in the social structures that the child talks about? You don’t trust God completely if you can’t pray and believe that he will help your child. You need to believe that he will, and trust Him completely with no doubting.
            I will Trust God before I do anything that is beyond what I have done before.
            God knows me and knows me well. I do know that without belief that your prayer will be answered, it will not be answered. You must believe without a doubt that he will provide you with what you need. It is the only way, and it actually works as I know by my own experience. Believing is a big part of getting close to God and focusing on just him and nothing else (except Worship and Praise) is also necessary to reach God at a higher level. again, I have experienced this and would not say it happened if it didn’t because I represent Jesus and can’t do anything like lie or manipulate others.
            There is so much more than just sin in the N.T. but everyone seem stuck on the sin, and everyone else’s instead of their own. Sin is pretty low when you look at what Jesus said in the gospel. He puts love way higher than sin by saying that love covers a multitude of sin.
            I will look for a scripture I just thought of and post it. It was about the situation with the gay and transgenders… I will reply again with the scripture. Blessings
            I appreciate the kind tone you are using. Truly, Thank you. I much prefer this way for discussion, myself.

          • MamaBearly

            First with this issue here. You talk about the evil of these people, and this is what Jesus said about tolerance of sin/evil. So you see, he did tolerate sin.

            Matt. 5
            37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
            38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
            39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
            40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
            41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
            42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.

            With the second part of my scriptures it is about loving your enemies. It too has a lesson about this particular incident. So, I look forward to your reply about these scriptures.

            43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
            44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
            45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
            46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
            47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
            48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

          • KP

            Children should not even be aware of this. This is child abuse!!

          • MamaBearly

            Too late for that isn’t it?

          • KP

            We have been tolerant to the point of losing our nation. What is going on with the lbgtqrstuv movement is child abuse. Our children should not be exposed to any of this in any form. But satan works in small steps to deceive by tolerance. Was Jesus tolerant when he went into the Temple and kicked out the money changers or tolerant to the Pharisees. Have you read your Bible, not a new age version, but the real Bible from cover to cover or do you go to Bible studies that are politically correct?

          • MamaBearly

            Thank you for your longer post, I can answer this now.

            And how exactly did you want us to change it? Personally, I can’t see a way, without God interfering and I know he won’t do that now, any more than he did at anytime in the past, he only saw us out of the wildernesses of each disaster and we began life with whatever it was in our lives. So God will see us through this time of trial, and if there is anything he wants to do He will. We as humans cannot do anything because of the laws they put into effect.

            If you can make a plan to change the world back to how it was when I was growing up, I’d be thrilled to go back to that time.

            Actually I have read the bible, probably several times just not in order since the first time. My Church uses the KJV. and we believe that if it is not in the bible, it is not the Truth. So I stick to what God’s Word says – I’ve been led by the spirit often.

            Oh no. My Pastor would not do anything political that wasn’t in the bible.

            Yes actually he was very tolerant of the sinners of that short period of his ministering. I can tell you why…

            You see, Jesus was not here to punish the sinners, he was here to save them. Jesus loves all of us, even sinners, which is a good thing since we are all sinners.

            So, he wasn’t being tolerant with the Adulteress? When he just said to”sin no more” and told her he “did not condemn” her? Don’t you think Jesus should have condemned her? she was caught in the act after all. She didn’t even repent.

            Those times – each one – That Jesus was intolerant with the people who were committing blasphemy to the Lord’s House, and the people who were teaching the laws incorrectly to the students as well as not living as they taught. Both the money lenders and the scribes and the Pharisee were corrupting the Church and had to be rebuked for it. It was a lesson to us to not do the same thing. It was also where the Lord told us to question everything and search the scriptures no matter who taught you about something in the bible, we are to search the scriptures for proof that it is in the Word of God.

            Otherwise, he did nothing but give the Apostles and the Disciples instructions about what was considered sin, mentioning a few but omitting some of the ones that are focused on so much today, and he put those sins and others under the commandment to love each other. So, yeah, Jesus had a lot of tolerance and still does since he can watch all of us sinners sin and not smite us all.
            Then he did an amazing thing. He told us there were only 2 commandments for us to follow and they were both about love. Love, not sin. not a word about sin at all.

            It suggests that Jesus was much more tolerant than his father was. Jesus was also much more patient than his father. He showed it while he was teaching us to be Christians by our behaviour as well as our sins repented.

            So, no, you are mistaken. God wants us to love above all things, or he would have given us more than those 2 commandments… plus the Golden Rule…. Plus the Fruit of the Spirit… Really, most of the things he spoke about were about love.

            God has to be tolerant of sin, or he would not longsuffer until we repent when it is a sin we do not recognize. When he is putting us through a trial he is tolerant of our failures

            Actually Jesus was pretty tolerant of sins when he was on earth. He did not once use his power to punish any sinner. Not once. The only time he used his power was to do miracles to let the people believe because they saw the miracles with their own eyes. You can find that explained in the scriptures too.

            May I point something out to you, what you put here, without the context, is about people trying to lead people away from the straight and narrow path. But you see, you are misunderstanding what the article is saying. It was talking about tolerance, nothing that will teach the child to want to be “like them”. It is like telling the children to be nice to the new student, and they are different in some way. Children do not look for negativity unless they are taught by example to do that. Bullying is a taught behaviour. So is intolerance, but the child who is intolerant will be limited socially until they are no longer acting intolerant – you know, no recess until the child knows how to behave well with others. The worst punishment Ever!! remember?

          • KP

            Christ Fulfills the Law (Of the Old Testament, every Word, He is the Word)
            17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

            You said, ‘It suggests that Jesus was much more tolerant than his father was. Jesus was also much more patient than his father.’

            You do know that Jesus is the Lord in the Old Testament doing and saying all those things you don’t like. Jesus is The Word. It is all about Him. Jesus points to the Father. He says He did not come to change one thing about the Old Testament. Just because He did not specify every detail like the Old Testament did does not mean it was not from Him also. He knew that everyone would already know that. The New Testament reiterates this. He is the Triune God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
            Matthew 5: 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
            The Old Testament was all about Him, pointing to Him. He told us He is the I AM which is the name He gave the Jews for Himself in the Old Testament.
            Exodus 3: 14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’ This is why they killed Him. They thought He was committing blasphemy because they were so steeped in their religion that they didn’t even know what it was talking about when it described Him perfectly, see Isaiah 53.
            Here is a good description: Jesus, in response to the Pharisees’ question “Who do you think you are?” said, “‘Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.’ ‘You are not yet fifty years old,’ the Jews said to him, ‘and you have seen Abraham!’ ‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds” (John 8:56–59). The violent response of the Jews to Jesus’ “I AM” statement indicates they clearly understood what He was declaring—that He was the eternal God incarnate. Jesus was equating Himself with the “I AM” title God gave Himself in Exodus 3:14.

            If Jesus had merely wanted to say He existed before Abraham’s time, He would have said, “Before Abraham, I was.” The Greek words translated “was,” in the case of Abraham, and “am,” in the case of Jesus, are quite different. The words chosen by the Spirit make it clear that Abraham was “brought into being,” but Jesus existed eternally (see John 1:1). There is no doubt that the Jews understood what He was saying because they took up stones to kill Him for making Himself equal with God (John 5:18). Such a statement, if not true, was blasphemy and the punishment prescribed by the Mosaic Law was death (Leviticus 24:11–14). But Jesus committed no blasphemy; He was and is God, the second Person of the Godhead, equal to the Father in every way.

            Jesus used the same phrase “I AM” in seven declarations about Himself. In all seven, He combines I AM with tremendous metaphors which express His saving relationship toward the world. All appear in the book of John. They are I AM the Bread of Life (John 6:35, 41, 48, 51); I AM the Light of the World (John 8:12); I AM the Door of the Sheep (John 10:7, 9); I AM the Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14); I AM the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25); I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6); and I AM the True Vine (John 15:1, 5).

            Yes Jesus is Love but He never came to change a word of the Old Testament and it is blasphemous to say He is nicer than His Father. That’s why I said that we do not have the reverent fear of the Lord or you would never say what you did about God. You are trying to be politically correct and create a god in your own image of who you want Him to be. He spent His life pointing out the sins that He would atone for. The prophets and the disciples did the same thing. By commented that we don’t agree with teaching transgender to 5 year olds, we are not condemning people, we are saying it is sinful to do so. It is something they should not have to deal with, just as lbgtq is and it has gotten so out of hand it is destroying our nation and being used to remove God from the Land. He is a gentleman and will leave us to the consequences of this sin if we don’t repent. This is child abuse that they even know about this stuff. These are sin issues, just like my sin issues are. We all have certain begetting sins that come thru blood lines etc. (The Bible even refers to these coming thru generations.)

            Yes, I have a loving heart for people but it is unloving to let them go to hell because I don’t have the guts to point out sin. I spent Friday witnessing to a homeless man outside of chick fila and the first thing I told Him was God loves you. We were both crying before I left because no one had told him that and he believed it because I spent the time to tell him about all the Lord had done to help me. A few weeks ago, I took a homeless man into WalMart and bought him a tent, cooler, batteries, towels, socks, etc, gave him money, gave him a Bible, anything he needed because it is God’s money, not mine. And these are just 2 recent examples. Believe me, I am not rich. I lost my job and faced debt that was insurmountable, but the Lord took care of it and us better than I ever could have imagined. All that I have is His. All that I am is His. He gives me everything that I have and takes care of me better than I ever could do myself. Believe me, I tried long enough. I hand out Bibles and Jesus of Testimony DVD’s all the time because they don’t need my words, they need God, they need Salvation thru Christ because they are sinners. I tell them first thing that God loves them and talk about anything they want to talk about and point it all to Christ and their need for Him. I pray for them and many others every night.

            Nobody is going to accept Christ as atonement for their sin if they don’t believe they have committed sin to begin with. Yes we are all born that way, we are born with a sin nature. Not whatever preference we have is OK. You need to be very careful about condemning other Christians which I see you doing alot and yes I have only posted a few times when I came to look at an article. Only God is our judge. Pointing out sin is different if it is pointing to what scripture says about it. Commenting on an article and pointing out what sin is, is not condemning someone. Chill a little.
            Normally I would not talk about my ministry because I believe these things should be private, lest anyone boast. But since I am anonymous here I wanted you to know that I have much love for others since you were saying that I didn’t.

            Read Revelation. This is Jesus speaking and is what He is going to do when He returns. He will rule over the Earth for 1000 years from Jerusalem with a rod of iron to show that people will still rebel with Him reigning on Earth here showing the need for His sacrifice to cover us.

            Matthew 10: 34
            34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’[e] 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

            Here is the Sermon on the Mount which reiterates much of the Old Testament.

            Matthew 5-7 The Beatitudes

            5 And seeing the multitudes, He went up on a mountain, and when He was seated His disciples came to Him. 2 Then He opened His mouth and taught them, saying:
            3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
            For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
            4 Blessed are those who mourn,
            For they shall be comforted.
            5 Blessed are the meek,
            For they shall inherit the earth.
            6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
            For they shall be filled.
            7 Blessed are the merciful,
            For they shall obtain mercy.
            8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
            For they shall see God.
            9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
            For they shall be called sons of God.
            10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
            For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
            11 “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

            Believers Are Salt and Light
            13 “You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men.
            14 “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

            Christ Fulfills the Law (Of the Old Testament, every Word, He is the Word)

            17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

            Murder Begins in the Heart

            21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder,[a] and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause[b] shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.

            Adultery in the Heart

            27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old,[c] ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[d] 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

            Marriage Is Sacred and Binding

            31 “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ 32 But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality[e] causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.

            Jesus Forbids Oaths

            33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

            Go the Second Mile

            38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’[f] 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

            Love Your Enemies

            43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor[g] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[h] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren[i] only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors[j] do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

            Do Good to Please God

            6 “Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 3 But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly.[k]

            The Model Prayer

            5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.[l] 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

            8 “Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him. 9 In this manner, therefore, pray:

            Our Father in heaven,
            Hallowed be Your name.
            10 Your kingdom come.
            Your will be done
            On earth as it is in heaven.
            11 Give us this day our daily bread.
            12 And forgive us our debts,
            As we forgive our debtors.
            13 And do not lead us into temptation,
            But deliver us from the evil one.
            For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.[m]
            14 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

            Fasting to Be Seen Only by God

            16 “Moreover, when you fast, do not be like the hypocrites, with a sad countenance. For they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 17 But you, when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, 18 so that you do not appear to men to be fasting, but to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.[n]

            Lay Up Treasures in Heaven

            19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

            The Lamp of the Body

            22 “The lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness!

            You Cannot Serve God and Riches

            24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

            Do Not Worry

            25 “Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?

            28 “So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?

            31 “Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

            Do Not Judge

            7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

            6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

            Keep Asking, Seeking, Knocking

            7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent? 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him! 12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

            The Narrow Way

            13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because[o] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

            You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

            15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

            I Never Knew You

            21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

            Build on the Rock

            24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

            26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

            28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

          • MamaBearly

            Yes but you forget that Jesus was part human and had some human traits. There is a difference between Jesus and God. Jesus is God’s son because Mary was his human mother. The only time that Jesus was shown using his Power was when he was doing miracles to show the people with their own eyes that he was capable of it so they would believe. It’s in the scriptures.
            I used to post scriptures like you have, but it takes up a lot of room which my posts already do, and personally, I prefer to teach people to look for the scriptures so they can learn scriptures while they search for them.
            Besides, picking out scriptures to “prove” things is like cherry picking cherries and leaving the best ones behind. Too much is missed by the focus on one scripture that may or may not be the complete message to us. Surely you must realize that some scriptures give only part of the Word and there will be another scripture that helps with the understanding of the first one?
            Regardless, I will put it this way.
            God gave us an example of 7 churches when he gave us the book of Revelation. Why do you think there were 7 described instead of just one. Do you think the other 6 were created by the devil? No It was shown in the scriptures that they were Christ Churches, every one of them. There is a reason why there are different religions within the Christian Faith. People will be drawn to different ways of belief of Jesus and by having the different denominations, it allows more people to come to Christ, who would not come if there had only been one way of seeing Jesus.
            I am being led by God to tell people about his love and that he is not a hateful God like people are making him out to be.
            You have not mentioned the last commandment, or the fact that with every mention of sin in the NT Jesus also talked about Love. You didn’t mention that, in fact, he spoke to the public about how to live like a Christian, and the sin was discussed with his Apostles and Disciples. The majority of the time that Jesus was ministering, he was talking about love and the good behaviour he wanted his people to show to the world.
            The fact that Jesus was telling us to love everyone is also emphasized by the scriptures that tell us that Love covers a multitude of sin. That for me says that Love is more important to Jesus than our sin because if we love we will not sin against those we love. (that’s everyone).
            People that think like you do not have the love of Jesus in their lives or their heart. If you did you would stop thinking constantly about sin, especially other people’s sin.
            People will not choose to follow someone who hates them, and that is what they show when they talk about the sin first.
            You tell me that people need to hear about their sin first? I disagree. If we tell them about Jesus’ love and teach them about Salvation by repentance with the benefit of Eternal Life for following Jesus, they will WANT to repent. Anyone who is not harassed by other ‘Christians’ goes to church and learns and desires to repent for sin. Why do you think the gays need to be told about the sin to want to repent first, when the Love of Jesus and the story of Salvation will give the desire to repent without being hateful at all.
            Jesus pointed out the sins His Father commanded about, but He kind of gave a half-shrug to the ones he had not mentioned, and told us they were comprehended by his commandment to love each other. Does that not tell you that Jesus is about Love of the Person and does not focus on the sin. If we are full of love (light) it will overcome the evil – sin (darkness) and we will have a world that is like what Heaven is described as.
            Why do you not talk about the light we are supposed to shine by being ‘good Christians’ and following what the gospel tells us to do. After all, everything in the gospel is expected to be followed because it’s God Word, but it is also the human side of Jesus’ Word. He was more his mortal side when he was on Earth than he was in his spiritual side. Someday all eyes will see that Jesus is LOVE and He is of GOD as we are of our Fathers’ too. Jesus could not die as a Spirit only. He had to be human in order to suffer the crucifixion, in order to bleed. A Spirit can’t do that. These things were brought to the forefront for a reason. The Resurrection was the resurrection of the Human side of Jesus. The Spirit side did not have to conquer death, but the part that came from Mary did have to. Jesus is a combination of his father and his mother, not just his father. Just as we are part of each of our parents, so was he when he was on the earth, and when he died, he just lost the flesh that is needed to be a human, just like we will. By conquering death, it was a symbol of what we can do to avoid death by being good loving people to everyone. Evilness is death. With only love, there will be no evilness and no death. But Jesus is looking for the people who love like he commanded, and who follow his lessons on how to be a good person so you won’t sin.
            He didn’t teach the multitude about sin, he taught them about how love makes everything easier because if people love each other, they want to do the best for the person of their love. They won’t want to hurt them.

            I don’t understand how you can address so many things without the Love that Jesus commanded us to have being mentioned. You sound more like you want confirmation that you did some good works, (which you did) than that you are giving God the Glory. I am not trying to judging you, I am merely stating what I saw when I read it. I’ve sin the same way before but someone mentioned it to me and I realized the sin and stopped. If God led you then it is Him who helped you, not you who did the work. It is to the Glory of God that he has a follower that will show their light to give Glory to God. Any Fruit is a reason to give Glory to God. (Fruit of the Spirit: Gal. 5:22-23)

            There is a difference in telling someone that what they are doing is worth the price of going to hell, and telling someone TO go to hell. I have not told anyone that since I became a Christian and stopped cursing like the rest of the world. But if a person who claims to be Christian and therefore is representing Jesus, behaves in behaviour that does not show Jesus in a good light, I rebuke them and if they continue to exhibit that same sin I try to put more emphasis on the fact that they are sinning even though they are ‘following’ Jesus because of the image of Jesus that they portray. There is a difference between rebuking a stranger who is a sinner and a brethren who sins. The brother or sister is not ignorant of God’s Word and the stranger may be. Correcting something that has not been taught is not the way of the Lord.
            It would be like punishing a child who has just started to walk for falling down.
            So the Lord thought that they needed to learn the lesson of Salvation to understand the sin, rather than telling them the sin that will make them want to repent.
            Especially in today’s world, telling gays that they are sinners has been done BIG TIME!
            So now instead of ripping into them again about that, how about if we Christians start making sure that they honestly know all about the Gospel, not just that Jesus hates sin, how about if we spread His Love like we are supposed to. He did not tell us to spread hate but that method of telling them their sin is not working because it is widely known that Christians see their life choices as a sin, and don’t need to be harassed about it. They need to be told the rest and not during a confrontation at a rally. It is not possible to Yell enough to make anyone desire Jesus.
            Live the life of Love that Jesus asked us to be like while we represent him as Christians.
            Even hate of the sin was removed by the last commandment and we were told just to love everyone. Why do you think that was?

          • KP

            You sound like a good dhimmi. You must be in a purpose driven/emergent church. Don’t rock the boat, go along and get along, social/prosperity gospel, blah, blah, blah. This is why a majority of Christian young people are leaving their faith once they leave home. These children were taught at home and in church but sent out into dens of wolves. Who do you think they are going to find to marry or be friends with, others of your own choosing. It does not work that way.

          • MamaBearly

            Actually I am not in that kind of church at all. To my knowledge I am the only one who has been led by God to preach the gospel in our church. Why does it make a difference.
            I have actually rocked the boat many times here too. I do not agree with some of the other posters belief and I try to encourage them to reread the gospel to learn the Truth.
            My children were much to old to be influenced by my choice to follow Jesus. It is up to them now, to choose for themselves. Unfortunately, they are influenced by the world but they were not raised in a Christian household. God will call them like he called me if they are to follow him. I’m not concerned about it. I trust God for everything.
            That did not sound much like a compliment. I’m sorry, without your name, how do I know who you are, or whether you can know me well enough to decide what kind of person I am. I don’t recognize your User name so I am guessing that you are a troll just passing by.

            If you wanted to get a reaction out of me, the only ‘reaction’ was a calm reasonable response to your post. Otherwise nothing.

            Shoo!! Go back under your bridge Troll! Shoo!!

          • KP

            Wow, I am not a troll. I am a 61 year old woman whose father fought it WWII against what I am seeing happen in our nation. I asked God to show me His truth in 2004 after hearing Billy Graham’s last message saying that Christ was coming back very soon. I had read at the Bible and played church my whole life, but I read the Bible from cover to cover after that. I knew that we did not have a reverent fear of the Lord. I was in an emergent church and the Lord showed me that it was the false church and part of the purpose driven one world church. They were started by an atheist Peter Drucker and they teach vane philosophies of men and skew the Bible to fit their agenda. He also showed me the New Age Movement was aligned with this being mainstreamed by Oprah. That most of our media, news, colleges, seminaries, govt, schools, & churches had been infiltrated with this. That political correctness/tolerance was the tool. The church in Germany tolerated Hitler until it was too late. That hindu yoga that is a death ritual for reincarnation that yokes you with the serpent power (satan) was being taught everywhere. Atheist Peter Drucker taught Rick Warren to turn the church into a social club. They mainstreamed every pagan idea with Christianity. Produced their own Bibles & books mixing in the new age teachings, the Message, the Voice, most new versions, Jesus Calling, most modern Christian books are teaching this. I have been studying this for 13 years, read many books, have quite a collection, I excelled in History growing up so I know real history and not the made up history being taught today, grew up in the church, father was a deacon, sons went to Christian school. I realized that it wasn’t my sons that were being deceived but all the Christians that I loved and respected who did everything right with their children, their children were being deceived also. The things you say in your posts are almost word for word of their teachings. You also scare me the way you act like you own the Comment section by saying shoo go away and that you don’t recognize me. It scares me that you are leading a church but does not surprise me. Kind of what I’ve been saying about the state of the church. Just remember that God judges teachers and preachers of congregations harder than everyone else so you better make sure that you are teaching what God thinks is right and not what you or another writer think is right.

          • MamaBearly

            I extend my apologies and would like to explain, if you don’t mind. I have been having people argue with me about their belief vs my belief when all I ask is that they look at the gospel. lately though they have been posting long posts that I have to reply to that takes me ages, and then they read just the top of the messages, and reply to what it was they said in the first place rather than much of anything I wrote. I have also been here long enough that I see the trolls go by and you actually sounded like one that went through recently with your post. A lot like that troll.

            You also scare me the way you act like you own the Comment section by
            saying shoo go away and that you don’t recognize me.

            You don’t come by here often do you? As I said, I do not recognize you. You have not been posting here, either lately, or for a long time/ never. That is how trolls get into a conversation to try to irritate someone with their posts. They want reaction, not discussion. The way you posted it was for me, exactly what I have had happen by a Troll. Unless you have never been troubled by a Troll, you have no idea.

            As far as the shoo shoo it was basically a joke that some other posters would understand.

            It scares me that
            you are leading a church but does not surprise me.

            I’m sorry, I don’t know where you got the idea I was the preacher of my church. I certainly never inferred it. I have been led here to do God’s Word by posting about the gospel as much as I am able. I only use scriptures that ‘fit’ with what I am saying (in the right context) as otherwise it is not the Truth. No, I preach the Gospel here but I am not a preacher. I was called an Evangelist by a friend once, because I teach anyone who reads my posts as much as I can. It’s often at the bottom of my posts, and some of the posters read down and I quote “to the first mistake” so most of what I work on is wasted and they just ask the same question I just answered. I guess I should have gotten off earlier before my dinner when it was beginning to annoy me to hear them speak so rudely about the people Jesus told us to love – part of everyone. No one has to stand up to be counted as loved by Jesus, because everyone is offered the same thing and is loved by Jesus until the end of our time, or the end of days. Before you pass you still have the ability to believe in Jesus, repent, and be saved.
            I know the bible fairly well, but I am not able to put many scriptures into Chapter and Book yet. When I was led by the Spirit with one poster, I was able to go directly to the scriptures during the time I spent going through the things he had missed that are in the gospel. It was amazing to me! I am still led by the Spirit when I answer other posts, but that time stands out because of how it felt to have the Spirit control me.
            I have read the bible through and the scriptures from sermons, or what I am reading and all the stuff I work on to help me remember by writing it down, as it comes while I am looking at other things even. . My memory works better by writing things down, than just by hearing, or reading, so I have probably written the gospel out complete about 4 or 5 times and random other scriptures of both the O.T. and the N.T.

            Kind of what I’ve
            been saying about the state of the church. Just remember that God
            judges teachers and preachers of congregations harder than everyone else
            so you better make sure that you are teaching what God thinks is right
            and not what you or another writer think is right.

            I am led by God and there is no question whether it is God or not, as He has blessed me with much evidence of his existence in my life. At one time, He said my name; twice. No one else around. a calm steady low masculine voice that said my name two times, and yet I am so sure if I ever hear the same voice in my lifetime, I will recognize it immediately. it was just that kind of voice. The same way that Elvis’ voice was a stand out kind of voice.

            As I feel the Spirit leading me through the discussions between those posters I mentioned above, It leads me to specific scriptures, it keeps me focused on the subject of what the post is about.

            BTW. I am a 60 year old – ok so it’s in September that I turn 60, but I have led a very different life than you have.
            I was just brought to Jesus just over 7 years ago. I knew nothing before that except Christmas and Easter commercialism, and Santa and the Easter Bunny.
            The years have been about trials to teach me patience, to teach me to trust God more. And lately, it’s been feeling like the Holy Spirit is with me as well as Jesus.
            I am so blessed by God KP I do not know why except I do have a very strong belief in God, a very strong faith in his keeping his promises, and I too am faithful and loyal as God wants us to be as well.
            I am not concerned about whether or our Dear Lord All Mighty is likely to be troubled by my posting my belief is that he is here with me and he hasn’t pulled my hands off the keyboard.
            See, I am not ashamed of Jesus Christ My Lord, because I try to reflect his light. I can’t go wrong with the way I live, love, and care about others. All that is in the scriptures as well, if you read the gospel. Oh, right, I review myself regularly to see if I can find sin that I had not recognized yet, and if I do find some, I repent. I also pray most of the day in regular communication with the Lord. I do good works if I see the opportunity when I am out. I am disabled and do not go out a lot, but anytime I am, I always have the opportunity to help, or show love to someone who needs it. I always smile and try to get others to smile too. I am sometimes bold and tell them that I bet they have a wonderful smile, which always makes them laugh and smile. I am filled with Joy and I love to show it to everyone as a light to say that Christians are good loving people, not the hateful God that others scare people with.
            I do pray that you will forgive me my trespasses. God bless!!

      • KP

        Isaiah 11 Woe to the wicked! It will go badly with him, For what he deserves will be done to him. 12 O My people! Their oppressors are children, And women rule over them. O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray And confuse the direction of your paths.

        2 Tim 3: They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,

        • MamaBearly

          I’d like you to explain why you posted these particular verses before I reply to this. Please let me be sure about what you expect as a reply. Thank you!

          • KP

            The article was talking about a woman who reads a perverted story to small children. The 1st scripture is talking about when men abdicate their responsibility in society God allows women and children to oppress the people. This is what I see happening today. The 2nd scripture is talking about evil becoming rampant and sins being condoned because evil came into the homes and seduced women who then spread it. I see that this has happened thru oprah who brought us lgbtq, racial divide and obama. Also thru the filth coming thru our tvs and computers conditioning to accept things that are an abomination to God. They have been brainwashed and no longer thing Biblically because it has been distorted to them thru feminizing the church with vain philosophies of men and women. Even the Bibles have been changed to reflect these heresies (the message, the voice, etc. Christian literature also reflects this in Jesus Calling, Ann Voskamp, Rob Bell, Brian McLaren, Rick Warren, etc.
            Women decide things by their feelings which change monthly. Men are able to think of things more pragmatically. Because our nation has been so feminized, men have allowed them to make all the decisions by their feelings and men have become feminized and ineffective. Our founders were men. Women are not suppose to be over our nation or our churches according to God. They have feminized both to the destruction of our nation. Just as what the Bible talks about over and over. I am a female but I watched this happen to our nation. Our military became a social experiment. The leaders were purged to allow lbgtqrs and standards were dumbed down so now we have ships that can’t stop crashing. The military rules of engagement were changed to having to call Washington before they could do anything in the field and we got Bengazi and an ineffective military, then the Syria crisis because of an effeminate president and a female Sec of State who laughed about killing Qaddafi which destroyed Lybia. They were gun running to Syria to arm the rebels so they could have Syria for Iran also. Like the Fast and Furious scam to promote gun control ended up arming the gangs and getting border patrol agents shot and a holocaust in Chicago that they do nothing about. They just can’t think straight. This started long ago with standards in our govt being dumbed down so women & minorities could fill govt positions.

  • bwgirl

    Those children were spiritually assaulted. That’s why they were crying and shaking. This is akin to “RITUAL ABUSE”…just ask any survivor of it and they will tell you what these poor children went through.

    They were defiled, emotionally and mentally and spiritually. Those three areas allow satan to get a foothold.

    You parents out there that are exposed to this stuff need to be pleading the blood of Jesus over your babies AND tear down every proud and lofty thing that has infiltrated their belief system that sets itself up against the true knowledge of God and bring it bound into obedience to Jesus Christ, the Messiah.

    • MamaBearly

      Can you please direct me to the website that I could read about those too. I’m very interested.
      Bless you!

    • MamaBearly

      The link please?

  • Reason2012

    Adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

    Homosexual behavior is most literally pointed out as a sin, and God has not changed on that regard. But if a person has those inclinations but does not act upon them, does not dwell in lust upon others, but is instead struggling against them to avoid them, then it’s not a sin. It’s just like sinful inclinations of any kind: it’s acting upon it when it becomes a sin.

    And this is what God says about sin and specifically the behavior of homosexuality:

    Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [s odomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

    1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

    Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

    Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

    Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

    Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

    The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

    Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

    God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

    Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

    Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

    Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, m urder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

    The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

    Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of S odom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

    And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be_raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows_rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

    And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

    And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

    These two messengers were sent to destroy that place before the event where they tried to_rape these messengers.

    Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

    Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination …”

    Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

    Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

    Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a s odomite of the sons of Israel.”

    1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the s odomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

    1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the s odomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

    2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the s odomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

    Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister S odom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

    And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

    Even Jesus points out marriage is a man and a woman.

    Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

    Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband.

    And only two people of opposite gender can become “one flesh”.

    Live forever, people – not temporarily only to be cast out for living for the things of this world.

    May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

    • KP

      Excellent-no political correctness here. Just straight out of the Lord’s own words.

  • Bob

    Permission? We don’t need no stinkin’ permission! These are our kids, they belong to our village, got it! You “parent’s” got no rights.
    This is what the progressive left believes.

    As a parent you have two choices, “Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever (Lenin)” or “Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it (Proverbs 22:6)”.

    Raise your children with the fear and admonition of the Lord, or let the state do what ever they want. The choice is yours.

  • Thoughtwrite

    I think that what the teacher did is reprehensible. That being said, What does this statement in the article “As previously reported, in 1828, just 52 years after the nation’s founding, Noah Webster, known as the Father of American Scholarship and Education, wrote, “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed. … No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”” have to do with the subject of the article?

    • Thoughtwrite

      Unless that last statement in the article was just talking about the rights of a student to read what he wants. But, it is confusing in the context of the rest of the article. But the school district and teacher have apparently abdicated, for the lack of their common sense, their teaching responsibility to a legal fear and an errant bureaucratic policy. Not to mention a moral failure.

  • Jim j

    The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

  • Jack-b-Quicker

    Yeah, and we are supposed to believe this 6 year old decided this all by him or her self. Sure… This wasn’t planned by the deranged teacher at all… and I’m sure the 6 year old chose to be a the opposite gender all by him or her self again… had nothing to do with the deranged mother…