60-Year-Old Woman Attacked by ‘Transgender’ Activist During Feminist Rally on Gender

(Christian Institute) A shocking attack on a 60-year-old woman by pro-transsexual activists has been widely denounced in the media.

The Times’ columnist Janice Turner witnessed Maria MacLachlan being punched and kicked as she met with others to discuss government plans to allow people to legally self-identify their gender.

Turner said the attack reveals the lengths to which activists will go to shut down debate.

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  • Amos Moses – He>i

    #imreallygay

    #notthatkindofgayadifferentkindofgay

    #justsoweareclearthegayiamreferringtoishappynotthegayyouarethinkingof

    Bizarro World Code
    1. Us do opposite of all Godly things
    2. Us hate beauty
    3. Us love ugliness
    4. Is BIG crime to make and honor anything Godly in Bizarro world
    5. Us defile all that is good and Godly

    i am not going insane, i am going sane in an insane world …………

    • Garbage Adams

      What this comes down to, at the very most, is a single isolated incident you are making out to be indicative of all transgendered people.

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        ignored ……….

        #imreallygay

        #notthatkindofgayadifferentkindofgay

        #justsoweareclearthegayiamreferringtoishappynotthegayyouarethinkingof

        Bizarro World Code
        1. Us do opposite of all Godly things
        2. Us hate beauty
        3. Us love ugliness
        4. Is BIG crime to make and honor anything Godly in Bizarro world
        5. Us defile all that is good and Godly

        • Garbage Adams

          It’s one incident. It’s not a conspiracy. Now go back to your ignoring.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            stonewall org uk

            ACCEPTANCE WITHOUT EXCEPTION WORLDWIDE …. and without exception means …. THE CHURCH ………..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            stonewall;org;uk/sites/default/files/acceptance_without_exception_worldwide.pdf

            replace the ; with a .

          • Garbage Adams

            No thanks.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            an open conspiracy is still a conspiracy ……. that is the foremost British lgbltqrstuvwxyz group …. they will not hear “no” ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            They aren’t an organized unit who have a secret handshake and private meetings, Amos.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sure … so what …. lots of people who are conspiring do not ….. what is your point ……. they do not need to have “private meetings” to know and act in the same interest ……

          • Garbage Adams

            Would you say the same thing about all black people? That because they are all black, they can be expected to all exhibit the same kind of behavior in some situation?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i look at the way things are going and all i see is the same behavior …… black is not the problem, there is nothing about melanin that causes behavior ….. it offers some additional UV protection but thats about it ……… SIN causes behavior ….. disregard for authority causes the problems we are seeing ….. lawlessness is what the issue is ……. that is not related to melanin ….. it is related to SIN …………. it is related to the mind and a selfish self interest …. and a post modern view that says “reality is what I say it is, not what it really is” …… and that mind set, that worldview, becomes a total lack of being under authority that is the hallmark of being a true christian ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            There is nothing about transgenderism that causes behaviour either. Transgenderism has nothing to do with your interactions with other people. It’s to do with your own sense of being. So there is no sin involved.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the behavior is what causes the person to “feel” they are transgender and to think they are something they are not … a disconnection from reality ….”FEELINGS” are NOT REALITY ….. and a post-modern view that their “FEELINGS” determine reality … not reality itself ….. denial of their DNA, that REALITY, is at the heart of this disconnect …………… and it is ALL SIN ………………

          • Garbage Adams

            You base your entire opinion on nothing more than your own “feelings”, that is the great irony here. If you think you are a man trapped in the body of a woman or vice versa, that is not SIN, it is a very real thing. Once again, answer the question – are transgendered people all liars? Are they all faking? That is a lot of people you are claiming to be part of your grand conspiracy. This is an area where I will listen to what medical professionals have to say. Certainly not a bunch of people who just want to label everybody “sinners” and taking no time to do the compassionate thing and try to actually understand what is going on.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “You base your entire opinion on nothing more than your own “feelings”,”

            nope …. not my opinion ….. Gods decree …. and therefore NOT an opinion …….. God has decreed what is sin and what is not and the effects of embracing sin ….. it is a SIN issue ….

          • Garbage Adams

            God says nothing about gender dysphoria. Your excuse does not work here.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            God says everything about SIN and denial of DNA … His creation …. IS SIN …….

          • Garbage Adams

            No one’s denying DNA. They feel their inner gender doesn’t match their biological one. That’s not a sin no matter how you slice it. Not mentioned ANYWHERE.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “They feel ”

            their “FEELINGS” are not relevant to REALITY …………

          • Garbage Adams

            OK, so don’t say “feel”…say “believe”. And if they think that’s what’s going on with them, who’s to say that it isn’t? You?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … they are acting on their “FEELINGS” … you were correct about that … and they are irrelevant to reality …….

          • Garbage Adams

            If someone jabs you with a needle, I’d say you were acting on your “feelings” too.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            not the same “feelings” …. and you know it ……. emotions are not reality ….. needles ARE ….

          • You clearly do not understand gender affirmation.

            Gender dysphoria — the incongruence of sex and gender — can be objectively diagnosed and has the potential to cause considerable distress.

            There exists no known medical intervention to address gender dysphoria. However, treatment can mitigate the most troubling symptoms which are anxiety and depression.

            The most effective means of mitigating thos symptoms is gender affirmation. Gender affirmation can be as simple as different clothes and hairstyle or, in some cases, being transgender.

            The important thing is that no one ever raised their hand and volunteered to be trans. For some people it is the only means of relief available to them. As a society we compound the problems of a marginalized population by introducing gratuitous minority stress.

            Now if someone has a more effective method of treating gender dysphoria I would like to know what that is. No one seems to have an alternative.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            God CLEARLY does and He understands it to be SIN …..

          • So now you speak for God? What exactly is the sin? What is your alternative when being transgender is the only thing that relieves the symptoms of severe gender dysphoria?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … God has spoken for Himself through the SCRIPTURES ….. denying what God created us as, a BINARY, is a sin ….. my answer to it is Christ and His salvation ……..

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            There is no mention in the scriptures whatsoever about gender dysphoria.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ummm …. SO WHAT ……… there IS mention of what God CREATED ….. dysphoria is CHAOS …. God did not create chaos …. He created ORDER ….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Where does the Bible say gender dysphoria is chaos? It doesn’t. Who says that? You.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            GOD says that …. if you do not know if you are a man or a woman …. that is chaos ….

            “The Patriarchy Has Hindered My Ability to Contradict Myself

            For example, it is very hard for me to understand how a transgendered person can claim they should become the other sex because they feel like the other sex; for how can they know what it is like to feel like the other sex if they have never been the other sex?

            But if women and men have the same minds, how is it then that women can have a peculiar perspective or insight which they contribute?
            Similarly, if I understand correctly, it is impossible for males to understand the experiences of women, which is why we men must ever check our privilege; but if it is therefore impossible for men to know what it is like to be a woman, how can one who claims to be transgender know what it is like to be a woman and therefore know he feels like a woman?

            It is also said that to be transgendered means to have a male brain in a female body, or a female brain in a male body; yet are not we told the minds of men and women are equal and identical, and that to argue biological differences between the minds of men and women is a particularly devious trick of the patriarchy to marginalize women’s thoughts?

            But if women and men have the same minds, how is it then that women can have a peculiar perspective or insight which they contribute? It still seems to me that if women have special thoughts and special insights, it must come from a special mind, yet a special mind by definition could not be the same mind as a male mind; otherwise neither would be special, but normal.

            I know that I am merely in need of further education from my superiors in progress, and it is of course no surprise to me that I cannot discern the new order’s inner logic; for deep was my involvement in the patriarchy. Indeed, I may never be able to completely overcome its influence on my mind, so greatly did I benefit from systemic sexism, so high was I in the conspiracy’s ranks.”

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            God does not say that. Gender dysphoria was unknown at the time of the writing of the Bible. You are lying.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            God knows everything THROUGHOUT time ….. he is omniscient and has nothing to learn from us or time or any other thing …………. so NOPE …………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            God knows everything throughout time, and is omniscient, and therefore has come to have the same opinion you have about transgenders even though it’s not mentioned in the Bible? Is that what you are saying?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again …. your word games are very well known to God ….. He has defined His creation ….. He is not going to debate about what it is …. and you can make up all the new terms you want to …. that does not alter reality …………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            I’m only asking that you clarify what you’re saying, because it makes no sense. You’re attacking transgendered people big time and doing it from the one standpoint where it makes no sense, that of God and the Bible where the issue isn’t even spoken of.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the issue of sexuality is EXPRESSLY spoken of ….. you choose to dent it …….. God does not create chaos …. but these men and women are in chaos ……… by choice ………..

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Gender dysphoria is not an issue of sexuality. Are you aware that prepubescent children can be afflicted by it? It’s not an issue of sexuality but of gender. I think a basic understanding of your subject is in order before labeling it sinful.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            right … it is an issue of SIN ……………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            It has nothing whatsoever to do with sin. No outward action is taking place.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sin takes place in the mind before anything else ……..

          • Peter Leh

            which is why if you are “born that way” we christians have a theological conundrum.

            IF you think and therefore sin just as the action then one was born to go to hell.

            IF you are gay because of being abused then the parents (or those responsible, even the church)go to hell for making them that way.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no ….. we have no conundrum …. and i do not know what you mean by “we” ……

            “IF you think and therefore sin just as the action then one was born to go to hell’

            that is what scripture says … that is what Christ says …..

            “IF you are gay because of being abused then the parents go to hell for making them that way.”

            we are all on our way to hell and judgement ….. unless and until God intervenes ….. thats what scripture says ………..

          • Peter Leh

            “and i do not know what you mean by “we””

            It ok you dont have to.

            “that is what scripture says … that is what Christ says …..”

            SO if one is born that way then one is born to go to hell.

            “we are all on our way to hell and judgement ….. unless and until God intervenes ….. thats what scripture says ………..”

            Excellent. So I can wreak a persons life causing them to be gay ( which is the traditional explanation of us christians) causing them to think in a way to send them to hell.

            But if I ask forgiveness on my death bed I get to go to heaven and my child goes to hell.

            NAw… I trust god…. not man and their cherry picking.

            Jump in my friend the water is warm

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “SO if one is born that way then one is born to go to hell.”

            we are all born sinners …. so if that is the “that way” you mean, YES ….. God has mercy on us by not destroying us as we exit the womb …. and yes …. we are all born sinners, none seek after God, and we are all bound to sin and hell ….. unless and until God intervenes ……….. scripture ……..

            “Excellent. So I can wreak a persons life causing them to be gay ( which is the traditional explanation of us christians) causing them to think in a way to send them to hell.”

            they think of sin in any case …. continually and we all do that …… we are all born sinners, none seek after God, and we are all bound to sin and hell ….. unless and until God intervenes ……….. scripture ……..

            “NAw… I trust god…. not man and their cherry picking.”

            glad you trust god …. you just do not believe His word …. we are all born sinners, none seek after God, and we are all bound to sin and hell ….. unless and until God intervenes ……….. scripture ……..

          • Sir Osis

            He is asking you to show the words of the Bible that specifically condemn gender dysphoria. You failed to do so, and you accuse HIM of “word games”? Holy cow.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and it is not that sin and sexual sin is not addressed ………. it is …. it is his denial that it addresses it …….. and it is not my job to convince him of the truth and his error …. that is above my pay grade ………….. and it IS a word game to him ………. and to you ……..

          • Sir Osis

            It’s not sin. It’s not sexual sin either.
            You’ve been told that repeatedly. By several people.
            Maybe it’s time someone asked you flat out – do you KNOW what gender dysphoria is?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so is that you Batmang ………….. “do you KNOW what gender dysphoria is?” …. YUP …. it is SIN ………….. and your denial of that truth is why you cannot accept that ………..

          • Sir Osis

            No, gender dysphoria is not a sin, and I don’t know of a single Christian who would say that it was. But you’re going one step further and trying to say that the hatred of it comes from God. That’s why you’re getting humiliated.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            then you really do not know any christians worth their salt …………God hates all sin …. and anything outside of what He created …. MEN AND WOMEN ….. a BINARY …. no X or unknowns or DNA fallderall or dysphoric nonsense ……. MEN AND WOMEN ….

          • Sir Osis

            Yeah, blah blah blah sin judge sin judge sin judge hellfire self-righteous blah blah blah.

            No one SAID binary. Except you. Notice that?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ummmmmmm ….. SO WHAT …. and if you did not want to hear ” sin judge sin judge sin judge hellfire self-righteous” then why are you here ………. i know ….. because you are all self righteous yourselves ….. and all you want to do is bloviate …………

          • Sir Osis

            I think, like throatwobbler thinks, that you should not use the Bible for your own purposes when it doesn’t say what you want it to say. It doesn’t talk about gender dysphoria and you should not be pretending that it does.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the bible is not the DSM-5 …. and it is not written as the DSM-5 ….. and it does not have the words the DSM-5 uses ….. but that does not mean what the bible says does not covered the same subjects …. and you do not accept the bible in any event … DO YOU ……..

          • Sir Osis

            Before I answer your question, suppose you answer the one that you’ve been dodging for two days. Why do you think it’s OK to use the Bible to attack gender dysphoria when the concept was unknown at the time of the writing of the Bible, that it is not sin and does not involve sex, and is not mentioned in any way?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Why do you think it’s OK to use the Bible to attack gender dysphoria when the concept was unknown at the time of the writing of the Bible”

            you have no evidence it was not known ….. and your made up “modern” phraseology means nothing ………. but if you have an ancient PEER REVIEWED article from Mesopotamia that says it was not recognized then please link to it ……….

          • Sir Osis

            If it was known, it would have been mentioned. If it wasn’t mentioned, you haven’t got any basis to speak Biblically on the subject. A 3 year old could figure that out. Doesn’t stop you from speaking as though you were God though. That’s the real crux of the matter here. You want to be God, but you’re not.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again … you have no evidence ….. and what is more …. you have no desire to recognize the truth that it does not have to specifically use your modern phrase to condemn it ……. and no …. i do not want to be God …. too much responsibility …. especially for people like yourself ……….

          • Sir Osis

            What EVIDENCE am I supposed to provide when it’s you making the claim? Are you nuts?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and so is your CLAIM that the bible does not deal with this …. BTW …. it does not use the word PEDOPHILIA either ….. but it sure as shootin’ does condemn it ………. Hello, Claims department….. i have got some nut here making an outrageous claim ….. would you send security …….

            CREEPY NEW NETFLIX SHOW SEXUALIZES CHILDREN WHILE PEDOPHILIA RUNS RAMPANT IN SOCIETY
            September 26, 2017

          • Sir Osis

            OK, now you’ve gone totally off the rails.

            The BIBLE DOES NOT DEAL WITH GENDER DYSPHORIA. It doesn’t talk about it. At all. It was not known. You cannot compare it to pedophilia which DOES have a sexual component, not to mention an abuse component, neither of which is found in gender dysphoria. You LOSE this one! You lose it HARD!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yes it does ….. and what this come down to is your denial of the truth … and that you are not a christian ….. and that you have zero interest in the truth of scripture or anything else ……. it does not use the word PEDOPHILIA either ….. but it sure as shootin’ does condemn it ……….

          • Sir Osis

            You could end up NOT looking like a total screwhead if you’d just provide the words you claim to be talking about. You haven’t presented them to anybody and just keep insisting we are supposed to know what sacred texts you are talking about. I mean, you must be totally off your rocker. Utterly insane. You talk UP to stupid people.

          • Yes, more than likely.

            Amen.
            And God’s word says…
            Romans 6:23 (KJV)
            23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

          • Rata Sata

            Lady Checkmate runs a “channel” at Disqus called Faith and Religion. It claims to have over 70,000 followers but Lady Checkmate has banned 99.9% of them. The ones that remain she calls her “saints” and they have to agree with everything she says or she will ban them. The channel itself is a joke, she’s choked off all posting on it completely and pleads instead for people to “recommend” the “discussions” even though nothing is being discussed. She is widely despised across Disqus itself for her disgusting behavior and the way she treats people. She has a “resolution” (ha ha) channel as well called “Battleground Discuss” which functions solely as a place where she tries to publicly humiliate people and has no intention of letting them post on her channels ever again.

            It is recommended that if you visit her channel, please report it for inappropriate content to the powers that be, as she routinely posts hateful racist and homophobic material.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “has come to have the same opinion you have”

            BTW …. it is i who have come to have the same opinion as God has …. big difference ……….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            How can you know God’s opinion on the matter when the Bible says NOTHING about gender dysphoria?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you keep going in circles …. asked and answered …… you do not like the answer …. tough …. scripture does not mention dobermans or huskies or german shepherds by name ….. or lawn mowers or garage door openers ….. SO WHAT …. sexuality is addressed …. sin is addressed …. and so is the futile mind of those who seek to oppose God and His creation and decree ….. thinking they are wise at playing word games ….. FAIL ………….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            You didn’t answer. The question remains on the table. Where is gender dysphoria addressed in the Bible? If it’s not, and specifically by those exact words, you haven’t got a basis to be speaking about this issue where God is concerned. Period.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored …………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Thanks, I’ll take that as a victory.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            take what ever you want …… means nothing to me ………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            When you continue to ignore every point I make, it’s clear you don’t have a leg to stand on. Your Bible’s silent on the matter. Too bad.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you have no point …. and you accept none ….. and the bible is not silent on it ….. you are deaf to what it says ….. and it does not matter what it says ….. you will continue to deny that it applies ….. and will invent other words to continue your denial ….. and you are safe in your safe-space ….. for the time being ……. so it appears we are done ….. you can put a fictitious notch in whatever you want to put that notch in …….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Yes, my point is that the Bible’s silent on gender dysphoria. Meaning YOU have no point.
            If the Bible had something to say about it, you’d provide me with an actual quote, and you haven’t. You’ve given passages like Romans 1 with vague references to sin even though it’s already been pointed out to you that gender dysphoria isn’t an action at all and young children can have it, and therefore CANNOT be a sin. This is what your type does all the time, when you can’t find a specific Bible reference, you use a vague one.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope .. the point is you cannot hear the truth ….. you are deaf to it ……. and it is not my job to convince you of the truth ….. it is only my job to tell you the truth … the rest is not up to me ……… above my pay grade as it were …….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            You keep changing the subject. It’s very simple – show me where in the Bible gender dysphoria is specifically condemned. That means don’t give me nonsense like Romans 1 which clearly doesn’t talk about it. Don’t give me verses that talk about SIN which gender dysphoria is not. I’m not deaf, I’m practically BEGGING you to show me you’re not desperately hopelessly lying about everything you’ve said, and you just keep confirming that’s precisely what you’re doing.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … that IS the topic …….. your denial of the truth …. makes no difference what the truth is ….. your denial of it is the issue ….. and it does not matter what that truth is ….. you can beg all you want …. it is a lie ….. your desire for truth is nil ……. it is not my job to convince you of any truth ….. it is only to present it to you …………. the rest of that is your problem …………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            You are being asked to do one simple thing, and the amount of fuss and name calling you are going to to avoid answering the question is quite staggering. Either you’ve got scripture that condemns gender dysphoria or you don’t. It’s painfully obvious no such scripture exists and here you are on a CHRISTIAN forum trying to tell your fellow Christians that God condemns it. I’m no expert, but I think your God frowns on bearing false witness.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and what name have i called anyone ……….. you told a lie and so you are a liar ….. very simple …. you are not interested in the truth or you would HEAR the truth ………. and you are deaf to the truth …. as it is offensive to your being ….. and you do not want your worldview disturbed ………….. you do not accept scripture … so what is the point in showing you what you do not accept ….. ARE you a christian ………….. BTW …. if you have “won” and have a “victory” …. then why are you still here ……….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Lied? I haven’t lied about a single thing. I’m calling out a liar who can’t provide a simple line of scripture to back up what he’s using the Bible to attack.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it makes no difference if it DID say GENDER DYSPHORIA ……… YOU and others would invent a different name for it ….. so your point is POINTLESS …… and the issue is your acceptance and/or REJECTION of the truth …….. and you REJECT the truth ………. and AGAIN …. ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN ……………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            I’m not going to answer whether I’m a Christian because it is irrelevant. Whether I am or am not, the issue of gender dysphoria isn’t in the Bible. Period. End of. Case closed. And even if it went by another name, it’s STILL not in the Bible. So how dare you say your God condemns it?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … it is ABSOLUTELY relevant to your ACCEPTANCE of the TRUTH ….. “So how dare you say your God condemns it?” ….. is that a statement or a question …. i am confused by your usage …… “it’s STILL not in the Bible” … riiight …. because you would still play word games and DENY THE TRUTH ………..

          • AMEN!

            He is the Lord of the harvest. We’re laborers, and His children :).

            Matthew 9:38 (NKJV)
            38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Romans 1 ………

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Neither mentions gender dysphoria.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            neither mentions you …. your modern parlance does not apply to scripture ….. but scripture does apply to “dysphoria” ………… especially yours …….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Your problem is that there is nothing in scripture that relates to this issue in even the vaguest possible way. The concept was probably not even considered. For that reason I think it’s very dishonest to take the position that the Bible speaks against it. Which is what you are doing.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            wrong ….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            No. I’m not wrong.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            not my job to convince you of the truth …. but yes you are …….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            If you can’t back up your lies with truth, then what is the point of what you write?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you cannot hear the truth ….. so how would you know if it is a lie or not ……… and it is not my job to convince you of the truth …. it is only my job to PRESENT you the truth ….. your denial of that truth is your business …………..

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            I am very eager to hear the truth. Why don’t you try telling me the truth, instead of leaning on weak scripture like Romans 1? Tell me something that relates to the issue of a person who feels they are trapped in the body of the wrong gender.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no you are not …. or else you would hear it ….. “Tell me something that relates to the issue of a person who feels they are trapped in the body of the wrong gender.” …. ok …. there is no such thing ………. it is mental illness …………. and it is Body dysmorphic disorder …. in your parlance …. and in the DSM-5 ………… as mental illness ………. it is looking in a mirror and NOT seeing what is there and not liking what is there ….. total reality disconnect …….. and it includes things like OCD and Bulimia …

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            I don’t care if you’re so backwards that you refuse to acknowledge the science on the subject of gender dysphoria. This has only ever been about one thing, you using the Bible and by extension the words of God to condemn it, and that’s a very serious sin in your faith. I know if I were God and someone were saying I condemned something when I’d done no such thing, I wouldn’t be pleased at all. So stop using vague scripture to support your weak argument, stop calling something sin which isn’t, stop saying something unrelated to sex is sexual.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the “science” of it is a lie ….. it is false science ….. i accept any real science ….. and that science has to comport to the truth ….. and the truth is found in the one place you do not accept …. SCRIPTURE …….. truth is SEPARATE from science and INDEPENDENT of science ……

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Again, I don’t care if you’re a science denier. It’s not in the Bible, you keep claiming it is, which is a lie, and I think you’ve been sufficiently exposed now for what you are. Have a nice life.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … not a “science denier” …. i am a FALSE SCIENCE denier ….. just because a scientist says something …. does not make it science ………. and just because it has a label on it as “science” …. DOES NOT make it science ….. if it does not comport to the truth …. it IS NOT SCIENCE ………….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i will take that as a VICTORY ………… and a WIN ……..

          • Sir Osis

            He left. He can’t hear you crow about your glorious victory even though he proved you wrong at every turn.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            not here for that … nor do i care if he wins or loses or comes or stays or blows his nose …. he ran because he cannot hear the truth … and neither can you ………

          • Sir Osis

            What truth? You have none. It’s not in the Bible. Deal with it.

          • Ron Obvious

            I think this is a simple matter. Tell us why you think GOD has an opinion on gender dysphoria when it’s not mentioned in the Bible. And you can’t try to use “sin” as a catch-all, because transgenderism isn’t sin, it doesn’t even constitute an action. It’s not a sin to feel like you are the wrong gender trapped in the wrong body, especially if you feel it’s the truth. But you seem to keep wanting to make this of an issue of sin AND sexuality when it’s neither one, and the fact it’s not in the Bible doesn’t help your case either.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………….

          • Ron Obvious

            Yes of course you ignored it, because it told you what you didn’t want to hear.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ignored ………..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Romans 1 …..

          • Ron Obvious

            I think it’s already been pointed out to you that neither of those verses mention gender dysphoria.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i think it has already been pointed out that it does have to … and you are just playing word games ……… and when the time comes … that is not going to work in your favor …… but whatever …….

          • Ron Obvious

            Yes, it DOES have to. That’s how we know when something says what it means. YOU are playing word games, you’re trying to tie your Bible which is silent to an issue you simply WISH it wasn’t silent about.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no … it does not ………. you do not want to recognize that it does …. and your denials that it does not address it are meaningless ….. you want to apply your modern phrase to scripture …. and it is OBVIOUS, Ron, that you are not a christian and that you have no desire to recognize it ….. (see what i did there) …………

          • Ron Obvious

            I don’t recognize that it does because it doesn’t. That’s the only reason.
            You can talk about my lying and denying and all the other things that YOU are doing, but you’ve lied here pretty brutally. If the Bible is silent on something, especially something that psychologists have only begun to start to understand, and you try to say the Bible condemns it, you are about as dishonest as they come.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … you do not want to recognize the truth and that is the central issue here …… scripture is not silent on it ….. you are deaf to what scripture says …… you have no interest in what scripture recognizes …… because it would require you to change …. and that is not in your selfish self interest …. and your selfish self interest is to not change and keep sinning ….

            FYI …. denying that you are a man or a woman that God created you to be …. is calling God a LIAR ….. and that be the biggest of sins ……… it is like the first one …… the “gender dysphoric” is saying that “God does not decide what I am, I decide what I am” ….. they have made themselves their own god …. and that is major sin in anyones bible …… OBVIOUSLY, Ron …. (see what i did there again)

          • Ron Obvious

            You keep talking about the truth. What is really funny now is you don’t even have WORDS, you don’t have ANY TEXT AT ALL to show anyone what you’re talking about. That’s the whole problem here. No words, no evidence, no proof, no truth.

            Show me some words and then we can talk about what TRUTH it is I’m supposed to be recognizing. All you have is silence, and you KNOW it.

          • Grumpy

            …please go wobble a dick in your throat Mangrove so we do not have to deal with you…

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Bucking to get banned, eh? Well, let me just help you with that.

          • Grumpy

            Well it certainly is not order in their minds as you describe it now is it??

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            It’s a real affliction. But the Bible is the wrong book to speak on it.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Be careful with these people. Somethings not right about them. Someone got very angry. I’ll be praying.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it appears divine intervention has taken hold ….. in the person of the moderators ……. oh well …..

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Some of these people are from (The Angry Atheist) Kind of sad they have nothing better to do than come to a Christian site. I’ll keep praying.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            me too ……….

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            David, please blog about this. Also be sure to mention that this story had 119 posts and was censored down to a mere 8.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            boohoo ….. their house … THEIR RULES ………..

          • Grumpy

            Insane asylum, best place for the mentally deranged

          • Nick Halflinger

            Reagan closed them. We can not have crazy people sitting around at tax-payers’ expense.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            There are more than one you just don’t care how many get hurt or killed.You can deny the truth all you want.

          • Garbage Adams

            This is an isolated incident between two angry groups. This doesn’t happen merely because a person is transgendered. And you have no proof of such a thing.

          • Beamer

            You don’t know him, you don’t know if he’s a person who cares more than he talks about here. You are judging him without proper knowledge. That’s also against Jesus. He told us not to judge PEOPLE, but just the sin. Read your Bible!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Judge Not, That You Be Not Judged – Pastor John MacArthur
            youtube;com/watch?v=UbZmoofvKpE

            “Judge Not Conference” – Justin Peters followed by Phil Johnson
            youtube;com/watch?v=cj8r7O6sHFI

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You are right I do not know him but I have seen his fruit under other accounts as well.You are judging me. And I do read my Bible.

            Beamer, I am now adding you to my list of people I pray for. And I will pray for others you are judging as well.
            Shalom

    • ThroatwobblerMangrove

      No, you sound pretty insane to me.

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        i am not crazy … my mother had me tested ….. (Sheldon Cooper) …. and its ThroatWarblerMangrove ……….

    • Peter Leh

      it is not like we christian have not killed doctors over abortion. So yeah “acceptance without exception” applies to us as well.

      but yea this guy is a coward…

      We can ALL paint with a broad brush , no?

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        excuse me …. again … dont know what you mean by “we” ………..

        • Peter Leh

          how is the water Amos? I am swimming right next to you.

  • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

    What will they do to an 80 or 90 year old women? Will the attack a 99 year old woman next.?

    • Garbage Adams

      Who is “they”?

      • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

        Read the story and you will know who I’m talking about……………..

        I’m sure your hatred for Christians is just as bad “”if not worse”” as the hatred they had for that woman they ((attacked)). How many haters did they use to attack (one) woman. And how many more would ((THEY)) use on a 99 year old woman??

        Now I have more reason to pray for the Christians you hate so much. For God to protect them from you and your hate for them. No telling who you would hurt and how you would hurt them.

        Shalom to the Christians you hates with your unjust hate……………………

        • Garbage Adams

          This has nothing to do with Christians. This is about you unfairly labelling transgendered people as violent criminals based on a single story.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they are labeled SINNERS and they are ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            Not because of their gender dysphoria.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            right … because they are SINNERS …………

          • Beamer

            Just as you are!!! EVERYONE sins!! That’s why we can’t JUDGE like you so often want to do.

            I know you hate it when I give you scriptures proving my words, so here:
            James 4:10-12 KEY VERSE 12
            10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
            11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his]
            brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth
            the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a
            judge.
            12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: WHO ARE THOU THAT JUDGEST ANOTHER?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change
            the ; to a . ……

            “Judge not.” What Jesus really meant. – Todd Friel
            youtube;com/watch?v=_7UryDFwEhQ

            Judge Not, That You Be Not Judged – Pastor John MacArthur
            youtube;com/watch?v=UbZmoofvKpE

            “Judge Not Conference” – Justin Peters followed by Phil Johnson
            youtube;com/watch?v=cj8r7O6sHFI

          • Beamer

            I was getting angry about your repetitious posts where you try to ruin my reputation. I have never tried to do that to you. and I am too much of a Christian. I try not to speak badly of others
            I realized while I was writing a post I deleted that I don’t know why I am getting so upset, when NO ONE will agree with you. The majority of Christians have the same Loving God I believe in, so they will know that you are not behaving as a Christian should.
            Every upvote I get when I try to discuss our beliefs is showing their support for me, while you get more down votes than up votes.
            I don’t think you should continue this because the Disqus rules are very specific about someone targeting someone else, and considering you cut and paste the same LIE about me over and over – that in of itself is targeting me.
            Get off your high horse Amos. Jesus told us to be humble. You need some practice.
            BTW the other thing about our discussion, I always told you to read the scriptures and you tried to give me scriptures that didn’t even go with the discussion over and over. I only tried to point you to the right scriptures, I never used to blatantly tell you you were wrong. I was trying to HELP you keep your salvation. but if this is how you treat other Christians in a PUBLIC Forum, you won’t have salvation anyway. Jesus won’t know anyone who treats someone badly and you do it all the time.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change
            the ; to a . ……

            God is Love – Tim Conway
            youtube;com/watch?v=CoZP5HZ3FgE

            Who Do You Say Jesus Is? – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=BBfcnp0dcKM&t=2s

            Why Many Christians Are Deceived – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=4xG_4LuyLZE

            Romans
            16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
            16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

          • Beamer

            You’re seriously trying to say that everyone is not a sinner.
            I gave you the scriptures before and I gave you the scriptures again.
            If you don’t believe what the bible says, and have to go find other people to tell you what they think they read? I only use scriptures not videos of some other opinions. God’s opinion and commands are all I need to know what is right and what is wrong.
            You lack the Christian attitude because your God is so hateful… I just realized that your hateful God is very much like the Muslims’ Allah. So that is why we can’t agree even though I thought we were reading the same Holy Book! You could have told me you were a Muslim Amos, I kept telling you that it is ok to believe what you believe but others don’t agree. Now I know why so many others disagree with you!
            I seriously can’t believe you are really a Christian because of the way you behave. Your candle has been hid under a basket and I think it’s started a fire.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            A Warning to Not Stray from the Gospel – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=U1a6hMAEORA&t=624s

            God the Just and the Justifier of the Wicked – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=IsMRIHWqQVw

            A Sermon That Has Angered Many – Pastor Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=4Oi4cAMoTqo

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Clergy and Lay Scholars Issue Filial Correction of Pope Francis

            The initiative, the first time such a mechanism has been used since the Middle Ages, accuses the Pope of “propagating heresies” and respectfully asks that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.

            so which of these two groups is wrong …. in your eyes ………..

          • Beamer

            Personally, I don’t like the Pope or how he has been representing Our Lord. You can pick whichever you want to Amos. It is really not important to me or my belief. I am not catholic and I would never BE a Catholic, as they were abusive to some people I know.
            You don’t use heresy, you just don’t seem to know or understand the whole of the Gospel. I am not saying you are right or wrong in your belief. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, God knows that there are many needs for his children before they can truly come to him. He told us there would be 7 churches, and I expect each one of them had a different way to believe in him, so the believers who were members could understand, and relate to what the bible tells us. Everyone will not understand it the same way because there are too many “kinds” of people. So I’m fine with you sharing your belief, but you have to understand that I have to share mine with others so the people I reach will turn to Jesus too.
            That is why we are not supposed to “talk” about each other badly or say one belief is right and the other is wrong. The people who like your belief will turn to your beliefs, and the ones that like mine will turn to mine. That is what was Jesus wants us to do.
            I call a truce. Please. Talk about your belief and I will try to stick to my belief without involving you any more than necessary. As long as people turn to the Lord, it should not matter who brings them. Our beliefs may be different but as long as they are about salvation, and Jesus, well, I can’t say I agree, but I have to allow others to choose for themselves which way they want to believe. It’s not up to us, it’s up to them.
            I will stand up for others that are not Christians though. We have a kind of standard in my belief that we are to be upright citizens and treat everyone with respect regardless of their own perceptions. I suggest you try not to put people down for their posts, or I will have to stand up for that behaviour as being against God. I will not let you teach others to be a hateful Christian. You want to teach others your doctrine, that’s one thing. To be rude to others is morally wrong. I’m sure you were told the same thing most of us were: If you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything. If you must talk about their sin, do not act like there is none that might change their mind somewhere down the road and try to encourage people, not discourage them. I just want to be able to spread the gospel, not fight with another Christian. Truce please?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. you are the one saying to not “judge” …. but CLEARLY they are … so one of them is WRONG ….. and your christianity is so flawed and rotten and in error you cannot DISCERN what is right and what is wrong ……… false teaching has done this to you ….. mostly because you do not listen ………

          • Beamer

            Look at the other post and my reply there. I will not write it again for you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you are JUDGING ….. you have said to judge is SIN ….. you do it continually while you sit here and pontificate against to others of the SIN YOU ARE COMMITTING …….. Christ JUDGED …. CHRIST was SINLESS ….. JUDGING IS NOT SIN ….. or else CHRIST SINNED ….. you theology is a LIE …………….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Personally, I don’t like the Pope” …….. JUDGEMENT

            ” or how he has been representing Our Lord” …….. JUDGEMENT

            “as they were abusive to some people I know” …….. JUDGEMENT

            For a person who says we should not judge ….. YOU SEEM TO DO A LOT OF IT ……….

          • Beamer

            Tell me Amos, why are you worried about what I am saying here? You told me God has chosen the people for Salvation and that they will always turn to God because of the predestination mentioned in the bible.
            To your misjudgement of my judging (I like that! haha)
            I have not judged anything but the sin. There is not one place that I judged the person and not the actions.
            Do you even understand the difference between judging the person and judging the sin?
            Here let me explain what I said:
            I just told you that I don’t like how he is representing our Lord. That is action not the person. It is A SIN to do false representation of our Lord Jesus.
            I don’t like the way he acts like he thinks he’s God. (remember Lucifer) That is A SIN. I am allowed to judge sins.
            I have never known the Pope himself and can not give any opinion on what KIND of man he is. I don’t particularly care as I will never, God willing, have to meet him. ever.
            I KNOW they were abusive and it is a SIN to abuse people, as I expect you would agree to.

            I also know the Catholics have taught directly against Jesus’ Word about confession to God. It is very plainly said that Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and man, and they decided they knew better and wanted to know all the juicy gossip so their priests could have fun talking about all the bad things people confessed to. There is no other reason to tell the members to tell a MAN what they wanted to tell God. It’s pure NOSINESS. The whole thing is a SIN. I’m allowed to judge sin. Jesus told us to.

            You have always been one? of the most judgmental people on this comment board with nothing held back showing your contempt of all people who don’t believe as you do, or who don’t believe at all. You have a lot of nerve saying anything about how I behave when YOU don’t.
            Obviously YOU have friends that moderate here. I flagged you at least 10 times and you haven’t been banned.
            I guess I should warn others not to fight with you because of your favour with them.
            From my experience behaviour like yours is something God likes to put people through trials to teach them lessons they need to learn [in God’s way of thinking that is.] He has taught me patience with many trials as it was not something I was good at, but he sure made sure I understood that his time is not like ours, and rarely when we want it to be. He also taught me patience by bringing me here to discuss our beliefs.
            I believe that if God wants you to learn to treat people better, he will help you learn it. I will say though that in my opinion, if God wants a perfect Heaven, which he does, he will be sure to pick the ones that follow Jesus’ Word and the Gospel. The most I can do is pray that he will teach that lesson to you, in the way that HE knows will work. If it is God’s will, of course.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i am pointing out your FALSE THEOLOGY as a warning to others ……….. you are a teaching falsely ……. and scripture says we are to MARK those persons ………

            Romans
            16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
            16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

            You are so MARKED as a teaching falsely ………..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Obviously YOU have friends that moderate here. I flagged you at least 10 times and you haven’t been banned. ”

            i have had numerous posts deleted today …. i do not care ….. the truth will be spoken against you …….. you teach falsely ………… i have told you before ….. i am only here by their good graces and i have no idea who they are …. but it is their house … their rules ………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ” you just don’t seem to know or understand the whole of the Gospel” ….. JUDGEMENT

            “That is why we are not supposed to “talk” about each other badly or say one belief is right and the other is wrong” ……….. JUDGEMENT

            “I will stand up for others that are not Christians though” ….. JUDGEMENT

            AGAIN …. for someone who claims it is a sin to judge …. YOU DO A LOT OF IT ………..

          • Beamer

            Ignored as it written by someone who is NOT a Christian in MY opinion.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it was written by you and contains YOUR JUDGMENTS that you SAID WAS SIN …………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I call a truce. ” “Truce please?”

            there is no “truce” as long as you propagate a false gospel and are teaching falsely ………. you teach a false one dimensional christ …… an anti-christ ……….

            Galatians
            2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
            2:5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

          • Beamer

            I am not teaching false gospel I am teaching it the way my church believes. It is not false. I wish someone would back me up on this. I know many Christians that believe the same way I do. How many other faiths believe the way you do?
            Fine then block me and I will block you. then we can’t get into it because I am not going to fight with another Christian. It is against what Jesus told us to be like towards each other and I will not go against His word, even if you do.
            I told you long ago that my Jesus is not one dimensional and this is a waste of my time. You leave me alone or I will have to keep correcting you. If I see anyone that is being demeaned, I will unblock you and defend them. If you want a war, you lose because I won’t fight. I KNOW my belief is right. You THINK yours is. So bug off and do what you do and I’ll do what I do. Leave me alone.
            YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN IN ANY WAY IF YOU CAN’T CALL A TRUCE WITH SOMEONE. JESUS MUST BE DISGUSTED WITH YOUR BEHAVIOR. I KNOW I AM!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I am not teaching false gospel”

            yes you are ………….

          • Beamer

            Are you trying to say that you do not sin, Amos?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            did i say that ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            Just like everyone else, right?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            RIGHT ……

        • Beamer

          Most of the atheists I know do not hate all Christians. They treat people the way they want to be treated. Something you don’t seem to understand by the way you speak to posters.
          Try praying for the people who you think are haters of Christianity. People who are Christian are already under God’s protection and do not need prayers to fight off hate.
          ONE person shows hate and you spread it through all the people who might possibly be even an iota like him.
          Have you ever actually found out why people hate Christians so much?
          No you are too arrogant to do that.
          It’s people with your attitude that make them hate us. YOU and YOUR hate for unbelievers and sinners.

          Jesus told us we are all sinners so you are NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE.
          You just think you are.
          Jesus told us to be humble and love and care about EVERYONE. He did not say OH, except for the homosexuals, or OH wait, not the transgenders. He SAID EVERYONE.
          You are criticizing someone that you have no clue what he believes, but you have decided for yourself.
          Christians like you make me hate Christians that are so ignorant of what Jesus TOLD us to be like.
          As far as I am concerned you will be one that will be crying Lord, Lord, because he won’t know you just because of the hate YOU feel towards others.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . …… the shorter ones are at the top ………. WWUTT ………. (When We Understand The Text) …. and sadly many do not …………..

            God is Love – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=-5pj0InqkjQ

            John 3:16 For God so Loved the World? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=VpLr-T7cIsA

            Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=FAlvz3Q_U8U

            God is Love – Tim Conway
            youtube;com/watch?v=CoZP5HZ3FgE

            Who Do You Say Jesus Is? – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=BBfcnp0dcKM&t=2s

            God Hates & Loves Sinners – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=mqTWLut6lcg

            Why Many Christians Are Deceived – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=4xG_4LuyLZE

          • Beamer

            You are the one that is deceived Amos. It says more than once in the bible that GOD IS LOVE. For a professed Christian you don’t know the bible at all.
            I realize you probably won’t read these because they prove you are WRONG. But others will and for me that is more important to you believing it, as I know you don’t.
            Jesus’ whole message was about Love, but I guess without the Holy Spirit, you can’t understand that scriptures.
            1 John 4:8
            He that loveth not knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
            1 John 4:16
            And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
            John 13:34 KJV
            34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
            Romans 8:35 – 39
            35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
            36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
            37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
            38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
            39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord
            Then there are the fruits of the Spirit: None of which you have ever shown here as a poster. So I guess you do not have the Holy Spirit, or you would be showing fruit.
            Galatians 5:22-23
            22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
            23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . …… the shorter ones are at the top ………. WWUTT ………. (When We Understand The Text) …. and sadly many do not ……………

            God is Love – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=-5pj0InqkjQ

            John 3:16 For God so Loved the World? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=VpLr-T7cIsA

            Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=FAlvz3Q_U8U

            God is Love – Tim Conway
            youtube;com/watch?v=CoZP5HZ3FgE

            Who Do You Say Jesus Is? – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=BBfcnp0dcKM&t=2s

            God Hates & Loves Sinners – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=mqTWLut6lcg

            Why Many Christians Are Deceived – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=4xG_4LuyLZE

          • Beamer

            Do you not know that Jesus specifically told us not to speak badly of our brethren? One more scripture you don’t apparently know.
            Right! Christians are going to rely on YouTube to interpret the scriptures. No one that reads the bible should NEED to go to YouTube to try to prove their point. Certainly not me! I prove myself over and over, just with the Word of God.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . …… RELY NOT on your own understanding …..

            The Modern Church’s Sissified Jesus – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=VrUzhuk-Uuc

            The Supremacy of Christ and Truth in a Postmodern World – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=cZYDOwRM3Z0

            A Distorted View of Christ Affects Everything-Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=9hlkGqGTdv8

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Clergy and Lay Scholars Issue Filial Correction of Pope Francis
            The initiative, the first time such a mechanism has been used since the Middle Ages, accuses the Pope of “propagating heresies” and respectfully asks that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.

            so who is wrong ……

    • Jerome Horwitz

      Don’t give them ideas.

      • Garbage Adams

        Who is “them”?

      • ThroatwobblerMangrove

        Who are you talking about when you say “them”, as though they are some organization?

      • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

        Them and also the other ones who are coming on this site with their hate for Christians as well. I guess I’ll have be praying for the ones they hate so much.

        • Beamer

          They only hate the Christians that hate them. The Christians that believe that God is a hateful God that hates more than he loves. You are one of them and I feel you are ruining the reputation of Jesus by acting with hate against everyone who is different than YOU think is right.
          Jesus told us to love everyone and did not give exceptions. He never told us to punish anyone by demeaning them or acting brutish with them. He told us to treat everyone as we want to be treated. Considering how these Christians act when a supporter of gays posts, you have more hatred than love in your heart. You need to find Jesus and learn to follow his commands. Then maybe people won’t think the Christians of this world are haters and the Light that Jesus told us to shine to bring more people to Salvation and bring Glory to God.
          Christians like you, bring nothing to God but disappointment. He loves everyone no matter what sin they do, but you divide the world up into sinners and believers. I find the way you treat others against all that Jesus stood for.
          Try loving and caring for people and HELPING them overcome their sins. Telling them that they are sinners with hate in your attitude is not going to give God any Glory.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . …… the shorter ones are at the top ………. WWUTT ………. (When We Understand The Text) …. and sadly many do not …………

            God is Love – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=-5pj0InqkjQ

            John 3:16 For God so Loved the World? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=VpLr-T7cIsA

            Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=FAlvz3Q_U8U

            God is Love – Tim Conway
            youtube;com/watch?v=CoZP5HZ3FgE

            Who Do You Say Jesus Is? – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=BBfcnp0dcKM&t=2s

            God Hates & Loves Sinners – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=mqTWLut6lcg

            Why Many Christians Are Deceived – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=4xG_4LuyLZE

          • Beamer

            IGNORED AS A DUPLICATE.

          • Beamer

            I can’t believe you would go to a site like Youtube to get understanding from the bible. IT TAKES SCRIPTURES NOT OTHER PEOPLE’S OPINIONS. Try using the bible to prove your points, not someone else’s interpretation.

            Actually I will reply to this one as well. 5 more scriptures about God IS Love and that HE wants us to love everyone.
            If you want to follow Jesus, you really should read God’s Word in the Gospel, but I know you dislike the commandments that Jesus gave us that disprove your “we don’t have to do anything for Salvation” so I know you would not dare read it.
            Ephesians 3:14-21
            14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
            15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
            16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
            17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
            18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
            19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
            20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,
            21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

            Ephesians 5:1-2
            1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
            2 And WALK IN LOVE, as Christ also hath LOVED US, and hath given himself for us an
            offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

            1 John 4: 7-11
            7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
            8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
            9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
            10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to
            be the propitiation for our sins.
            11Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

            Matthew 5: 14-16
            14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
            15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick;
            and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
            16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see YOUR GOOD WORKS, and GLORIFY YOUR FATHER which is in heaven.

            Romans 13:8
            Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE one another: for he that LOVETH another hath fulfilled the law.

            This is the same discussion we’ve had over and over again. You won’t even consider that the scriptures I give you might be right, so you don’t read them. It’s YOUR salvation on the line, not mine!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Again … for anyone who has read the above false teachings …change the ; to a . …… the shorter ones are at the top ………. WWUTT ………. (When We Understand The Text) …. and sadly many do not …………

            God is Love – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=-5pj0InqkjQ

            John 3:16 For God so Loved the World? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=VpLr-T7cIsA

            Hate the Sin, Love the Sinner? – WWUTT
            youtube;com/watch?v=FAlvz3Q_U8U

            God is Love – Tim Conway
            youtube;com/watch?v=CoZP5HZ3FgE

            Who Do You Say Jesus Is? – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=BBfcnp0dcKM&t=2s

            God Hates & Loves Sinners – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=mqTWLut6lcg

            Why Many Christians Are Deceived – David Platt
            youtube;com/watch?v=4xG_4LuyLZE

          • Beamer

            MY post is not spam, Amos’s is!! All I did was quote scripture!!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change
            the ; to a . ……

            A Sermon That Has Angered Many – Pastor Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=4Oi4cAMoTqo

            Jesus’ Promise: The Gospel Fills The World – Jeff Durbin
            youtube;com/watch?v=jsrgd_Uq1ME

            The Sermon That Shocked Everyone. UNFORGETTABLE ENDING! – Jeff Durbin
            youtube;com/watch?v=bofF_aRIILI

        • Garbage Adams

          LadyInChrist, you should listen to Beamer. You could learn something about true Christian love and charity.

          • Beamer

            Thank you Garbage Adams. I pray that I will have more people realize that some “Christians” are not following what we are supposed to behave like, and that most Christians are not like them. Unfortunately because we do follow Jesus, we try to be humble and not stand out unless it is because of the Love we have for everyone.
            Those seem to love the limelight and the power they imagine they have, and they give the rest of us a bad reputation, as well as smearing Jesus’ name.
            Unfortunately it frustrates me that they have destroyed any chance of the world accepting Jesus and that will make the work for the rest of us a lot harder. Hatred for people is not what God is about. He hates the sin, and loves everyone just as he wants us to love everyone. They just don’t seem to understand that.
            I appreciate your support. I hope you remain as clear headed as you are.
            God bless you!

          • Garbage Adams

            Please, call me Garbage 🙂

          • Beamer

            I actually was going to but I wasn’t sure I should use that or Adams! LOL!
            Thanks Garbage, you are too kind. God bless!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            listening to false theology that she spills is not worth listening to …… and the evidence of its falsity is the statement above …………

          • Garbage Adams

            You’re only calling it false because you’re threatened by it, because it exposes you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it threatens me not one bit … it is an offence to God ………

          • Garbage Adams

            You are the one offending God.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you deny God …. how would you know ………

          • Garbage Adams

            Because you’re inventing things that don’t even appear in the Bible.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you deny God … you do not know the bible …. your opinion on that matter is worthless ……

          • Beamer

            How do you know he doesn’t know the bible? Most atheists know it better than YOU DO!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change
            the ; to a . ……

            Revelation 14:14-20 – 10 Attributes of Jesus Christ – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=T_03eM9_snI

            Doubting God’s Promises – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=mydB6QX9K04

            Adapting to the Culture…Or Not – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=COPZrKskSZA

          • Garbage Adams

            It isn’t opinion, it’s fact, whether one has read the Bible or not. There’s no mention of gender dysphoria. Anywhere. Therefore anytime you try to speak on God’s behalf on the subject, you are speaking only for yourself and spouting opinion not based on scripture.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no mention of garage doors either …. SO WHAT ………..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Matthew 19 …. spells out what God AND Christ said about HIS creation …. anything outside of that is adding to scripture ………..

          • Garbage Adams

            The words gender and dysphoria do not appear. You are being dishonest, and attempting to bend scripture to your desires. The very thing you accuse other Christians of when you call them false Christians.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            right …. they DO NOT NEED TO ….. you are applying YOUR vocabulary to scripture ….. WRONG ….. you do not get to do that … and that is why YOUR OPINION of it as far as scripture is concerned ….. IS WORTHLESS …………..

          • Garbage Adams

            Yeah, they need to appear if you’re going to use the words of the Bible to make all your points. What I believe is not relevant to this discussion.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            God created men in His image …. IMAGO DEI ….. God is aware of your craftiness of word games ….. He has DEFINED what it is ….. and outside of that …. IT IS NOT ……. so again ….. your lies about scripture are just that ………

          • Garbage Adams

            I’m not playing word games! YOU are doing that. You can’t make the words of the Bible match your agenda this time and you’re still trying to do that. Simple fact: Gender dysphoria is NOT mentioned in the Bible. You don’t like that very much, do you, Amos? You don’t like that you can’t use the Bible to justify bigotry and discrimination in this case?

          • Beamer

            Seems to me that by quoting the bible I am not discussing a false theology, besides which the majority of Christians do not believe what you believe, but instead follow the commands laid out by Jesus as do I.
            I can support every thing I say with scriptures that show the truth of what I say. When you kept trying you couldn’t even come close to proving your belief.
            Everyone else who follows Jesus does his commands. (anything that Jesus told us to do, is a command – did you not realize that?) Jesus never wasted his words, and when he told us to do anything, we were expected to obey.
            Matthew 7:21-27
            21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
            22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
            23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
            24 Therefore whosoever HEARETH THESE SAYINGS OF MINE AND DOETH THEM, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
            25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
            26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and DOETH THEM NOT, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
            27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            A Distorted View of Christ Affects Everything-Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=9hlkGqGTdv8

            Forgiveness – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=PfaT_tU7hzo

            Brokenness – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=jiAVl1IqVjI

          • Beamer

            So you think YOURs is the ONLY way to believe? NOPE

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            Four Pillars of Walking with God – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=7gVDRhzE8nw

            What is the Gospel – Paul Washer
            youtube.;om/watch?v=9mMQ12nmDow&t=2762s

            A Warning to Not Stray from the Gospel – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=U1a6hMAEORA&t=624s

          • Beamer

            You are not allowed to target people here Amos. Stop telling people that I am speaking falsely. You are so NOT Christian to be treating someone you know is Christian like you are. God will not be happy.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            The Supremacy of Christ and Truth in a Postmodern World – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=cZYDOwRM3Z0

            A Distorted View of Christ Affects Everything – Voddie Baucham
            youtube;com/watch?v=9hlkGqGTdv8

            God the Just and the Justifier of the Wicked – Paul Washer
            youtube;com/watch?v=IsMRIHWqQVw

          • Beamer

            I think I can safely say that EVERYONE SHOULD IGNORE THE COMMENTS BY AMOS MOSES.
            He really isn’t a Christian, at least not that anyone could possible be sure of. Sad really.
            God is a good God. God IS LOVE and that is in the scriptures I gave to you already. You have to read God’s Word to understand it Amos, all of it and especially the Gospel. Try it, maybe the Lord will give you some knowledge about what he truly means in His Word.
            Otherwise, please stop trying to put a ROADBLOCK in my way when I am spreading the gospel, after all that is our duty to Jesus to do.
            You have not shown any of the fruits of the Spirit, now that i think about it. Do you even understand that these are the Fruit of the holy Spirit? and that without these you are not filled with the Holy Spirit. Oh, I forgot. You don’t believe in the Gospel, do you?

            Galatians 5:22-26
            22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
            23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
            24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
            25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
            26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            I Lay Down My Life for the Sheep: Christ’s Atoning Work – Steven Lawson
            youtube;com/watch?v=F2dGXzOQS54

            Why Preach the Intolerant Message of the Exclusive Gospel? – Steven Lawson
            youtube;com/watch?v=72g2DIv4EvQ

            Sola Gratia – Grace Alone Free will vs Gods Sovereingty – Steven Lawson
            youtube;com/watch?v=kg_gOnHvulQ

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Romans
            16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
            16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

            you are so marked ……….

          • Beamer

            You should be reading the bible not watching Youtube videos if you want to know God’s Word!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            For those that just read the above false teaching ………… change the ; to a . ……

            Are you really a Christian? – Todd Friel (5 parts)
            youtube;com/watch?v=k-cuRI1QLCw
            youtube;com/watch?v=DnONXs0XT5g
            youtube;com/watch?v=SRdK-ppfVhc
            youtube;com/watch?v=fGP_sxiizlI
            youtube;com/watch?v=Iy1CAo3LnIU

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            After what i have seen beamer do to a Christian makes me believe he or she may not be one.You yourself hate Christians and that there is something with you liking him or her………………………….

          • Garbage Adams

            You like to use that word hate, and it’s so interesting to me because you hate homosexuals and transgenders and I hate nobody.

        • Knorben Knussen

          I don’t know what you’re talking about, LadyInChrist, because I’m a Christian and I hate you. I disagree with everything you’re saying because it’s not grounded in Christ’s teaching at all.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            I rebuke you and your hate in Jesus Name. Your hate for me shows other wise.
            Shalom

          • Knorben Knussen

            I pray:
            My Dear Lord Jesus in Heaven, please grant a debilitating, painful, violent death to LadyInChrist for her hatred of the fruits of thy creation. As she is so undeserving of Your great mercy, please ensure that her suffering is as long and drawn out and painful as possible. In Your Holy name I pray. Amen.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You are now blocked.

            I will be praying for you and the ones you are abusing.through your hate
            Shalom

    • ThroatwobblerMangrove

      Why do you think someone would randomly attack and 80 or 90 year old woman? This story is about two groups of people who clashed and that’s why there was violence. Are you trying to say that transgender groups are deliberately seeking out the oldest people they can to fight with? That’s what it sounds like you are saying.

      • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

        You tell me. You have all the answers right?
        Not much different than you coming here to abuse Christians on a Christian site.

        • ThroatwobblerMangrove

          Well, do you? Would you like to tell me why one story in which a punch-up occurs makes you think it’s going to happen again to an even older person? This is the first story I’ve ever read where transgendered people were involved in violence. What makes you think it would happen on an ongoing basis? When you say things like “what will THEY do” you open yourself up to these kinds of questions.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You are are coming to this site seeking those you hate. All I can do is Pray for the Christians you hate so much.Only God can protect them from you and from your hate. I will be praying for God’s protection from you, your sock puppets and the others connected to you and your hate.
            Shalom

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Excuse me, who said anything about hate? I’m asking why you would suggest that transgenders would want to beat up a 90 year old woman, as you suggested above. Well, why?

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            I have see the fruit of your hate. Like I said all I can do is pray. And pray I will. Have a great day. It is such a beautiful day enjoy it 🙂 The birds are singing their songs. The sky is clear. Bye.

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            The fruit of my HATE? I’ve asked you a few questions, and that’s hate?

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Have a beautiful day 🙂 I went through hurricane Irma. Today is so beautiful and I plan on enjoying 🙂 Even though we still have broken trees everywhere it is still beautiful today.

            There was a duck who sat on her eggs during that hurricane.Too bad we humans can’t be like that duck. We can learn a lot from God’s Creation………………..

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            Thank you for ignoring my question. Have a lovely day.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Again have a great wonderful day. I’m not sure where you are at. But I’m sure it’s just as beautiful of a day there
            as it is here.Enjoy the beauty of life today. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.Life is too short to not enjoy the beauty of this day 🙂
            Shalom

          • Thank you for the prayers. That sock account was recently used to attack our Christian community. Thankfully, the abuse was caught in pending. We continue to pray God’s will is done.

          • Sir Osis

            You are lying, Lady Checkmate. Your channel is set up so that no one can comment at all. EVERY comment goes to pending.

          • bumsmcgee

            That’s a laugh. NO ONE can post anything on your channel because the censorship sucks so bad you allow basically nothing to get posted.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Your Welcome. He or she is vuery angry are trying to hurt Christians. But in the end he or she will be the one to hurt. When we go to be with God we will be the ones to be happy. But until then I’ll keep prating. My biggest prayer is for the Will of God for these people who seems hate us so much.It would be nice if one day before they die that they repent and become our brothers and sisters in Christ.

          • Amen.

            I pray that God’s will is done in their life, in our lives and in and through us daily. To God be the glory forever and ever.

            God bless.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            .Amen. Me too.
            God Bless.

          • Grumpy

            Read about this type of thing more than once, and these twinkle toes always go after someone they believe they can beat up.

          • ThroatwobblerMangrove

            “Twinkle toes”.
            Classy.

  • Peter Leh

    Trump was wrong……this guy is the SOB

  • Stacy Sedgewood

    Well, I certainly disagree with violence, regardless, and it is unacceptable. However, I am reading the comments and there is the declaration that anyone who isn’t binary male or female is sinning against God. I am a born-again Christian, and I was born with both male and female reproductive organs. After my birth, my parents made the decision that I should be raised as a boy, had my female parts ripped out, and then there was little more than shame and disappointment throughout most of my childhood. At twelve, I became menopausal, and no one cared or noticed. I am now 38 and transitioning because testosterone shots I was forced to have as a child (under the lie of allergy shots) have been wearing away at my kidneys.

    While many see me as transgender, I am not technically considered such, but am treated as such. the vile hatred that I see coming from both sides does not please God, nor does it lead others to Christ. As my pastor once said, ‘If you don’t like what someone is doing, lead them to Christ. Preaching at them to stop their behavior doesn’t save them – God saves them.’