‘We Will Not Tolerate Your Religion!’ School Fires Scientist for Questioning Evolution

California State University NorthridgeLOS ANGELES – A legal defense organization filed a lawsuit this week against California State University, alleging that the school fired a biologist for discovering scientific evidence that contradicted evolutionary theory.

Mark Armitage was a scientist at California State University—Northridge (CSUN), where he worked as a researcher and supervised the school’s electron microscope laboratory. He was also a member of several scientific organizations, including the Microscopy Society of America, the American Society of Parasitologists, and the Southern California Academy of Sciences.

However, CSUN suddenly terminated Armitage’s employment two years ago after he discovered soft tissue on a Triceratops fossil. Evolutionists at the university were evidently displeased by Armitage’s discovery, since they were convinced that the fossil was tens of millions of years old.

Even though Armitage’s findings were published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, the university decided to fire him, saying his findings were unacceptable. According to Armitage, his supervisor entered the lab and declared, “We will not tolerate your religion in this department!”

In an interview with GenesisWeek, Armitage said he was shocked and frustrated when the university terminated his employment.

“It is frustrating because I made no conclusions in the paper, I just presented the factual data,” he said. “The only conclusions I drew were that ‘This needs to be investigated further. We have a lot of work to do.’ And that was it.”

Armitage believes he lost his job because evolutionists in the department were unwilling to consider the implications of his discovery.

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“Suffice it to say,” Armitage added, “some people in the department didn’t appreciate [the soft tissue discovery], and somehow they seemed to work a way to have me very quickly removed from my position.”

After the incident, Armitage promised to pursue legal action, arguing that the school had fired him for no good reason. According to a press release this week from the Pacific Justice Institute (PJI), the scientist is finally receiving the legal representation he desired.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” stated PJI President Brad Dacus in the release. “But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia.”

PJI has now filed a lawsuit with the Los Angeles County Superior Court on behalf of Armitage, which argues that CSUN wrongfully terminated Armitage’s employment on the basis of his Christian religious beliefs.

“It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view,” PJI staff attorney Michael Peffer said in the release. “This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

The Triceratops tissue discovery by Armitage is not the first time evolutionists have been counfounded by soft tissue in “ancient” fossils. As previously reported, Canadian researchers recently found well-preserved dinosaur skin from a fossil that evolutionists believed to be over 60 million years old.


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  • Loyd Allen

    California State university should stop using the term “Science”.
    It should use the term “Dogmatism”. Please go to your English department and find the definition for this term.

    • The Road from Damascus

      Good point, ‘Dogmatism’ would be appropriate, but only for any religious classes. For a Christian to claim that Science is dogmatic is the very definition of asinine. Science is a tool and nothing more, although I will grant you one detail… if a “scientist” begins making untestable claims that come from his theology, the scientific community will shut him down, just as they did here. Scientists do this to keep their work pure and unbiased. A Christian who believes the earth is 6,000 years old cannot be a reliable scientist under any circumstances. It would be like trying to work as a physician, while not accepting germ theory… you’d be completely ineffective, as Armitage was at CSUN (my alma mater btw.)

      • Taco

        …except they didn’t say Armitage was a YEC, he didn’t make any claims at all, and merely presented evidence.

        DO YOU EVEN READ BRUH?

        • The Road from Damascus

          Yeah “Bruh”, I do read. I also possess the apparently rare skill of deduction. In the history of the American scientific endeavor, no scientists has ever tried to overturn the proven age of the earth for any reason other than religious, therefore he is either a Christian or a Muslim. Furthermore, by by attempting to show evidence that dinosaurs lived in within the modern age, he is betraying that he is in fact a young earth creationist. Scientists already know very well why some tissue on fossils is made of soft tissue, in fact, they are currently working to discover why exactly it is that most tissue found is not in this “soft” form. The only reason a researcher would claim his findings indicate an young earth would be religious in nature.

          So bruh, he’s a YEC who does not understand how science is effectively done in this day and age. He was fired for these exact reasons, and he will loose his lawsuit.

  • Ken

    Robert Little,

    I highly doubt that any new discoveries of ways of preservation are going to account for the so-called millions of years that this soft tissue is claimed to have been preserved…

  • C.P. Steinmetz

    As is usually the case when you listen to only one side of a story – and that from an attorney – the truth gets lost.

    Look at this quote from Mark Armitage and see if you think that even though he supports science, they want him out just because of his ‘soft tissue’ discovery:

    “Yes, I know you know about radiohalos in granites. I have published my findings on radiohalos in granites from around the world in partial support of Gentry’s work along with Andrew Snelling of AIG. By the way Gentry is a good friend, a humble man and knows more Scripture by heart than anyone I have met in the Creation movement. I would be surprised if he knowingly lied as you claim he did, but I suppose we all have feet of clay.

    Nevertheless I found radiohalos in SEALED diamonds – the hardest substance known and impenetrable to outside influences….. I published my findings in American Laboratory and at the International Conference on Creation in 2008.

    See the photo – and please – if diamonds are billions of years old – please explain how sort-lived radiohalos formed inside of them. Face it the earth is young.

    So now, do you really believe anything he said?

    • C.P. Steinmetz

      One more citation:
      http://creation.com/mark-h-armitage

      I like:
      “Mark was suddenly terminated by the Biology Department when his discovery of soft tissues in Triceratops horn was published in Acta Histochemica.

      He is currently seeking relief in a legal action for wrongful termination and religious discrimination by the University.

      He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the Board of Directors since 2006. Mark is a member of the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.”

      Yup, just an ordinary scientist who supports science and evolution.

    • http://earl.rodd.us Earl Rodd

      Have you read Snelling’s work? It is not easy reading because the
      science involved (as is everything dealing with radioactive phenomena) is complicated. Snelling and colleagues were actually somewhat cautious in their early work because the conclusions from the radiohalo work were so “out of the box”. But all a good scientist can do is follow the experimental results. As with all science, future experimentation might find other explanations and theories. But the fact that he is a member of CRS, and that that is considered evidence “against” him simply proves the point that this is a religious battle. And one thing American universities do not like is diversity of religious thought. Religion does affect how we do science. Because of belief in millions of years as a age for dinosaur bones, people were not even looking for soft tissue. Everyone has beliefs that form their work – that is part of being an intelligent human being!

      • C.P. Steinmetz

        Thank you for your reply.

        The point is not a religious battle, but the fact that he found an anomaly and immediately jumped to the creationist conclusion, rather than the scientific conclusion that this was something not understood, given current understanding.

        University science departments do not want any religious thought – and rightly so. And, it is not a ‘belief’ in millions of years of age – it is well established fact.

        And the beliefs that should guide a scientists work is not a religious belief.

        What I really don’t understand is why the University hired him in the first place.

        • metalpants

          You talk like this is the only case in where a fossil with soft tissue is found…

  • Porter

    Poor deceived atheists think they evolved from a mud puddle or some such nonsense. Denying the mathematical impossibility of that ever happening, and they claim they’re the scientifically enlightened ones.

    • Riddles

      “I don’t actually know what evolution is but I’m sure what I think I know about it is actually correct therefore it’s the scientists who are fools and not me”.

      That’s what it sounds like you are saying here. You admit that you don’t really know what evolution is as you explain it as “some such nonsense” yet you think that they are wrong anyway.

      Someone here sure isn’t enlightened and it’s the guy who likely couldn’t put together an accurate description of evolution if they tried.

  • Thiago Paulino Dantas

    If the soft tissue discovery is true, they should let him publish it, if its not, it will just fall apart.
    I’m atheist by the way.

    • Shoode

      It most likely is true, as dinosaur tissue has been found multiple times, including visible red blood cells.

      One of the most notable scientists to have made this discovery is Dr. Mary Schweitzer, who discovered soft tissue remains in a Tyrannosaurus Rex, and is an evolutionist herself. It was well documented and published in many peer-reviewed scientific journals, or in other words, it’s ‘old news’. So it is somewhat bizarre that the University was so upset, but not surprising.

    • Edward Norkett

      Like! (I’m YEC)

      • Thiago Paulino Dantas

        I didn’t get it

        • Jonathan

          Young earth creationist. They believe the world is 6000 years old. Made just so Jesus could arrive and fulfill theur wildest imaginings.

          In other words, a seriously deluded person.

          • Thiago Paulino Dantas

            Some people just want an easy answer for tough questions

    • Michael Long

      He is a lab tech not a professor or a scientist.

      • Thiago Paulino Dantas

        OK

      • Damon

        That is a ridiculous assertion. A man with an MS in Biology (specializing in Parasitology), and an Ed.S in Science Ed, who is doing research, and has been published in peer reviewed journals, is going to be referred to as “just a lab tech?” He might be a lab tech, but he is also a scientist, by any meaning of the word. Lots of scientists are lab techs. Your bias is obvious.

      • Spectrum

        ( quote from the article ) “……Mark Armitage was A SCIENTIST at California State University—Northridge
        (CSUN), where he worked as a researcher and supervised the school’s
        electron microscope laboratory…..”

        You obviously missed that part……

    • Spectrum

      And what do you think of the way he was treated ?

  • imnotasheeple

    Pssst…god is pretend, so is the Easter Bunny. No one told you?

    • Edward Norkett

      Dumb!

      • imnotasheeple

        You are dumb if you are still playing make-believe as an adult. Do you only hear God talking to you in your head or do you hear other voices too?

    • MrRex

      66 different books, written by about 40 different authors, written over 1500 years, same theme, all came together in one book to answer reality like no other book or collection can. What a coincidence! NOT! “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for truth, for reproof, for correction, for instruction…” “A fool has said in his heart ‘there is no God.'” One day…”every knee shall bow and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.” Even you. It would be good for you to find eternal life while you have breath, otherwise my friend I’m afraid you will be forever sorry. Not my opinion; truth from the One who spoke everything into existence, gave you life and gives you breath, even desires you come to know Him intimately now and prepare for eternity. Check out the “Romans Road.”

      • imnotasheeple

        You’re playing make-believe.

        • MrRex

          All I hear are attacks. How do you explain reality? How do you explain your existence? Evolution? Really? Think about that. The incredible complexity of every system in your body…came about by changes over time? You need to read Darwin’s Black Box.

  • Benjamin Scott Eldridge

    You claim to be a scientist that wishes to examine all the evidence. However, it would seem that we should not tolerate religion in the classroom, they are right. EVOLUTION IS A PLAGUE!! The most dangerous religion out there and should be completely banned from science classes. Seeing as how closed minded it makes people to fire a person for reporting visible obvious facts. Its time to wake up America!!

    • Michael Long

      Actually it is the most supported fact in scientific history.

      • Spectrum

        Oh ? So why are they so keen to attack Armitage’s findings, and fired him ? If they’re so confident that evolution is “settled science”, what are they afraid of ? Don’t they have “the courage of their convictions” ?

        Are you sure evolution is on firm ground ? Or quicksand ?

        • Reverend Veritas

          They fired him because he wasn’t a researcher, he was a “permanent part-time technician” who did not have the training or approval to conduct this research. He didn’t document any funding sources in his paper and took it upon himself to use company equipment, staff and resources in conducting this independent, unauthorized study. He also neglected to follow proper procedure when excavating and testing the fossil, used his affiliation with the CSUN for the publication where his faults in the published work would reflect poorly on the reputation of the institution that did not grant him approval or clear his paper for publication.

          He could have gotten fired for a number of reasons, but one of them was not for “proving” young-Earth creationism – Which he didn’t even do.

          • Spectrum

            How did you come to learn of this information ? Links please, so I and others on here can verify what you claim. Otherwise I’m taking the story as is.

          • Reverend Veritas

            It wasn’t important enough for me to bookmark all of the links I came across and it’s been over a week since I did, but I’m not going to waste my time looking everything up again because I know you wouldn’t care even if I did. If you gave one tiny iota about finding the details that contradict your personal views and don’t support the belief that creation scientists are being persecuted by the overwhelming majority of scientists because they’re supposedly hiding the truth from us in an elaborate, global conspiracy, which I doubt you do because you seem to reject a theory that’s now as verified and demonstrable as gravity, then you’re free to go fact-hunting yourself, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to sway the views of someone who has already convinced themselves otherwise.

    • Shareigh Burkitt

      I don’t teach school for starters. Secondly evolution is a scientific theory that’s why they teach it in science class. So if you think religion should be taught in science class you must believe it to be theory as well. Oh and your the most narrow minded egotistical person I’ve ever had the displeasure to chat with. I imagine you sitting in your padded cell typing all this garbage out with the one hand they allow you to have outside your straight jacket

  • Spectrum

    Scientists cannibalising one of their own. They’re the same kind of savages that most of them maintain the rest of us came from.

    Goes to show how anyone that bucks the scientific orthodoxy will not be tolerated. Very democratic. No wonder they banned the teaching of creationism in schools.

  • Reverend Veritas

    Dr. Gary Hurd’s review of the Armitage research paper, lawsuit and employment with the CSUN:

    Armitage was a “permanent part time technician.” That means he was never legally a full-time employee regardless of his hours, or years worked. It means that he would never be promoted. It means that he could be terminated from employment at any time for any reason- or none. The addition of “permanent” to the job title meant that he got benefits which is very generous.

    This is a bottom rung job.

    A part time technician does not get to do independent research using University facilities.

    A “permanent part time technician” was taking liberties that a faculty member would not have taken.

    I don’t who of you have jumped through these hoops before. Suppose you have an idea without any funding. You face two options: A) beg from a funded colleague, or B) write a short proposal to circulate around the university.

    Under option “A” you are inviting the funded colleague to basically take your idea on as a project. You will be their co-investigator, you will be their co-author, you will be their tool. Option “B” is a search for seed money to try enough of the idea to write a killer grant proposal, give a conference paper, and be able to promise that your quarterly progress reports will be on time because they are practically written. The acknowledgment section under option B will mention “faculty development grant,” “XYZ university foundation,” or “grant in aid from ABC lab/facility under NSF (DOE, NIH) Grant #######. You can see these in every issue of Science Magazine.

    Reading the article, and ironically his lawyer prepared complaint, showed a huge glaring reason to fire him. It was the amount of equipment, staff time, and lab stockroom supplies that were used on the one hand, and the total lack of funding or authorization on the other. And, as this “research” is already published, there is no possible way that those costs can be recovered. Armitage potentially stole $thousands$ from the University, unless he paid out of pocket. (I’ll take bets he didn’t).

    That will get you fired pronto.

    Armitage just helped himself, and if he did it during hours he was paid, then he stole salary as well.

    It is also obvious that few people actually read the “research” paper supposedly at the center of this little storm.

    Mark Hollis Armitage, Kevin Lee Anderson
    2013 “Soft sheets of fibrillar bone from a fossil of the supraorbital horn of the dinosaur Triceratops horridus” Acta Histochemica, Volume 115, Issue 6, Pages 603–608

    I have. It is crap.

    The age of dinosaur bone is based on the formation it is recovered from and not the condition of the bone. There was no competent stratigraphic analysis of these fossils to associate any radiometric data and the recovered material. (Armitage also denies elsewhere the validity of all radiometric dates). The fact is that the fossil was found in a shallow secondary deposit. It was cracked and open to the environment. It was observed to have rootlets growing through it! None of the reasonable tests for the age of the material were performed (especially amino acid racemization analysis if as I suspect the “soft tissue” is recent plant and microorganisms). Armitage and Anderson soaked chunks from the horn core in Glutaraldehyde which is a cross-linking and tanning agent. In short, they made plastic out of any bacteria, fungi, or any other organic sludge on the bone. The attempted to demineralize other samples with sodium EDTA was incomplete. There are other problems as well.