Gungor Controversy Continues as Singer States Jesus Could Have Been Wrong About Adam, Noah

GungorControversy continues to stir over statements made by a professing Christian singer/songwriter who denies Genesis as being literal after the musician recently asserted on an online podcast that Jesus could have been wrong about the existence of Adam and Noah.

As previously reported, Michael Gungor and his wife Lisa, who in 2006 formed a congregation called “Bloom” in Denver, are known for their the Dove Award-winning and Grammy nominated worship music, such as Beautiful ThingsSay So and Dry Bones. In 2013, they won an award from the Independent Music Awards for their live performance album A Creation Liturgy.

But in 2012, Michael Gungor, the son of pastor and author Ed Gungor, revealed in a blog post entitled A Worshiping Evolutionist? that he had concluded that the Genesis account is only figurative.

“I guess I’ll have to come out of the closet and admit… I don’t believe in a literal six-day creation,” he wrote. “Genesis is a poem if I’ve ever seen one.”

Earlier this year, Gungor revealed his thoughts even further, explaining in a blog post entitled What Do We Believe? that he “has no more ability to believe” in Genesis as being literal.

“I have no more ability to believe, for example, that the first people on earth were a couple named Adam and Eve that lived 6,000 years ago,” he wrote. “I have no ability to believe that there was a flood that covered all the highest mountains of the world only 4,000 years ago and that all of the animal species that exist today are here because they were carried on an ark and then somehow walked or flew all around the world from a mountain in the middle east after the water dried up.”

The matter recently went viral online after reports emerged about Gungor’s position, and at least one church canceled an upcoming concert with the artist. A radio station in Wisconsin also opted not to have any participation in an upcoming event that featured Gungor, stating that they “cannot be a party to introducing more doubt into the hearts and minds of young Christians already being fed doubt and lies by the world.”

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Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis likewise expressed his disagreement with the singer/songwriter’s views, stating, “If we can’t trust God’s word in Genesis, then why are we to trust His word in the gospels, particularly when Jesus affirmed Adam and Eve, Noah and the Flood?”


Ham is again speaking out after Gungor took his remarks even further on a recent podcast to assert that Jesus could have been wrong about the existence of Adam and Noah.

“To just see a few words that somebody said—that Jesus said—about Noah, and to assume that you can get into Jesus’s mind and know exactly how he thought about the whole situation, and how He considered history versus myth versus whatever—how do you know?” Gungor stated on the Liturgists Podcast with co-host Mike McHargue.

“And even if He was wrong, even if He did believe that Noah was a historical person, or Adam was a historical person, and ended up being wrong, I don’t understand how that even would deny the divinity of Christ,” he continued. “The point is it wouldn’t freak me out if He was wrong about it, in His human side.”

“If Noah and Adam were mythical ideas, the point of what Jesus was saying still applies to me,” Gungor added. “It has very little do, in my perspective, with Jesus trying to lay out a history of world to a historical-minded people. . . . Even if Jesus knew that Noah and Adam were mythical, but knew He was talking to people who thought they were real, that’s another possibility.”

“So not only does Michael Gungor deny the historical accuracy of the creation and Flood accounts, but he believes Jesus Christ was probably wrong, too! Or worse yet, that Christ might have just lied to the Jews about it,” Ham lamented in a blog post on Monday. “This is a sad place for a professing Christian to be in.”

He noted that Gungor had also recently written on social media that “[t]here is a trend in modern society, no more than a trend . . . a religion, an idolatry that elevates Scripture above Jesus.”

Ham asked Christians to pray for Gungor, and noted that he has extended an offer for the singer/songwriter to visit the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Kentucky.

“[Pray that] he’ll come to accept the authority of God’s word in every area—including the history in Genesis!” He said.

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  • Linda Hull

    Where’s the controversy? If Jesus said it I believe it so that settles it! I don’t care if he founded the church of what’s happenin now, he ain’t a Christian unless he believes in the trinity. He’s a mortal man and he’s no different than an atheist. No controversy here in my household. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

  • Rolando Sanchez

    Proverbs 13:20

    He that walketh with wise men, shall be wise: but a companion of fooles shall be destroyed.
    – King James Version (1611) – View 1611 Bible Scan

    He who walks with wise men will be wise, But the companion of fools will suffer harm.
    – New American Standard Version (1995)

    Walk with wise men, and thou shalt be wise; But the companion of fools shall smart for it.
    – American Standard Version (1901)

    Go with wise men and be wise: but he who keeps company with the foolish will be broken.
    – Basic English Bible

    He that walketh with wise [men] becometh wise; but a companion of the foolish will be depraved.
    – Darby Bible

    He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.
    – Webster’s Bible

    One who walks with wise men grows wise, but a companion of fools suffers harm.
    – World English Bible

    Whoso is walking with wise men is wise, And a companion of fools suffereth evil.
    – Youngs Literal Bible

    He that walketh with wise men shall be wise; but the companion of fools shall smart for it.
    – Jewish Publication Society Bi3ble

  • Rolando Sanchez

    Kindly please question Gungor’s agenda and motives. If hearing their music in the radio, call your radio station and remove and reject Gungors platform. Shalom IYN

  • Michael Brits

    Gungor your lost man…

  • Charlotte Rahrig

    Most little boys go through this stage at about age 15 or 16. However when they grow up…

    1 Corinthians 13:11
    When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

    • Charlotte Rahrig

      To clarify, I meant that doubting the Word of God is childish.

  • Jason Smori

    All of you people calling him a heretic sicken me. You are all behaving in such a cultist fashion. It’s so hard to believe that in this day and age, people are willing to overlook hard scientific fact because of an archaic book that’s been translated so many times that the real meaning is distorted. I don’t understand why Jesus has to be divine to follow his teachings. I firmly believe that if we followed Jesus as the human ideal, but didn’t believe in the virgin birth, the resurrection, etc. we would all be better off because we wouldn’t be convincing ourselves that those impossibilities were in fact real occurances. For all anyone knows, the Bible could be a huge compilation of folk tales and stories written in hopes of hooking the less knowledgable people of the world at the time into being morally conscious beings. There is no proof of any of these things other than the millennia-spanning indoctrination process that has engulfed so many lost and naive people.

    Additionally, not one of you has exhibited any Christ-like response to this. You should all be ashamed. Jesus would not have condemned somewho disagreed with him, or even who suggested that he may have lied. Jesus would have given this person love and tried to understand his viewpoint without sounding like a bunch of condescending school children. Take that into consideration. There’s a discrepancy with what you claim to follow and how you actually act. This problem exists mosty in the priveledged Western world where we point fingers at others from behind keyboards in our suburban homes.

    The man has stated that he believes in something provable over something not provable. And you are calling him a fool. This proves that you are so brainwashed that you won’t even believe the truth when it’s presented to you, but would rather accept whatever your overpaid pastor spews at you.

    • Brian

      First of all, you don’t want to believe everything that makes Him divine and you want to be like you…Confusing. You want us to be Christ-like, yet you don’t believe in His ideals? If you don’t believe any ideal of Jesus, you cancel out everything. It’s like trying to believe you are for real with all that you have written. So now let’s see, you want us to be Christ-like in answering him? Ok, so listen:

      “1 Cor. 5 v. 6 – 13: “Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast affects the whole batch of dough? Clean out the old yeast so that you may be a new batch of dough – you are, in fact, without yeast. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. So then, let us celebrate the festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of vice and evil, but with the bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth. I wrote you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people. In no way did I mean the immoral people of this world, or the greedy and swindlers and idolaters, since you would then have to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who calls himself a Christian who is sexually immoral, or greedy, or an idolater, or verbally abusive, or a drunkard, or a swindler. Do not even eat with such a person. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Are you not to judge those inside? But God will judge those outside. Remove the evil person from among you.”

    • Brian

      So you see you are the one at fault; you are condoning evil. Light does not mix with darkness. Wise up and save yourself from damnation. Science won’t save you, rhetoric wont save you, only Jesus will…and it is Jesus who is TOTALLY different from any other one the world has ever known irrevocably! He who was born of a virgin birth, (ha! even Muslims enjoy his birthday and the holiday…lol…whose the hypocrite here…lol) walked this earth, died on a cross, rose from the dead and is seated at the right of the Father IN HEAVEN and is coming soon to JUDGE YOU. No matter what your 2D version of life thinks, just know that there is a God beyond any dimension you can ever fathom. He is far more advanced and that is why HE IS GOD. If you can understand your breath, and can capture it and put it a bottle in a museum, and still explain how you did it, then we will believe your scientific friends, too…lol

  • Mike

    Please pray that Michael Gungor would come to know the full truth of God’s Word.unfortunately he is just another bible illiterate “Christian artist”. Pray for him because the enemy has him blinded from the truth.


  • Aaron Davis

    Really sad that someone who understands enough about God to write that song, can be so deceived. We are all imperfect and fallen. I pray for them.

  • John

    This is the craziest Satan doctrine I have ever heard from Gingor. Didn’t the Bible say something about “doctrines of devils?”. If he knew that Jesus had to be a spotless man to save us from our sin, than he could obviously not lie. Thus, Gungor must not believe Jesus died for our sins. How crazy. So sad. Gungor, get rid of your confusion. You say a lot of crazy things, and worse is you are arrogant about it and treat others who don’t agree like scum. Your pride makes you unable to hear any different. That’s not “love” by the way. Pridfulness is not love.