Baby Born Healthy After Couple Refuses Abortion Despite Doctors’ ‘Fetal Abnormalities’ Claim

SheenanIRELAND — A couple in Ireland recently gave birth to a healthy baby boy after they rejected repeated pressure by doctors to abort the child over claims that he had fetal abnormalities.

Melanie and Damien Sheenan shared their story with the UK’s Christian Institute, and spoke of why they are glad that they gave their son life.

The situation began when Melanie had a routine scan at 20 weeks gestation.

“We went in to [see] the radiographer and there was just silence; she wouldn’t speak to us at all. She just said that there was something wrong,” she recalled.

A consultant then was paged to look at the scan, who then referred the couple to a specialist.

“He told us that there were severe abnormalities with the baby, that the brain wasn’t formed, the spine wasn’t formed,” Melanie said.

But after speaking with consultants at a specialty facility, the Sheenans were advised to abort.

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“They felt that the child wouldn’t survive birth and if it did, it would be so profoundly disabled that, their words were, ‘it would have no quality of life,'” Melanie recalled. “I was put under immense pressure to go ahead with the abortion.”

“I had phone calls to my mobile and my house phone to tell me how many days, weeks that I had left till my 24-week cut-off [to have an abortion],” she continued. “Whenever we went to appointments, the nurse in charge of the consultant would introduce as as ‘the couple who was continuing with the pregnancy against medical advice.’ We were made to feel that we were doing something terribly wrong by wanting to keep our baby.”

Damien concurred that the doctors had advised that their son would not survive birth, and even if he did, “his quality of life would be so poor because he would be so severely disabled.”

“They thought that it probably wouldn’t be right to bring him into the world,” he said, “so that’s when they suggested the abortion to us.”

But the Sheenans rejected the abortion, and later gave birth to a baby boy that they named Joshua—who is totally healthy.

“The doctors’ diagnosis was completely inaccurate,” Melanie said.

“The doctors said that Joshua would be incompatible with life, and now he is sixteen weeks old and he’s brilliant,” Damien added. “He’s doing everything that he should be doing. He’s the best thing that’s happened to our family. We couldn’t imagine our family without him now. Just to see the joy and the love that he brings to the house.”

The couple said that they would encourage other families to always give their child a chance at life—no matter the situation.

“Even if mothers get hours, days or weeks with their baby, they say that it is the most precious time,” Melanie stated. “And in our circumstance, the doctors’ diagnosis was completely incorrect. … And if we would have went with the doctors’ diagnosis, he wouldn’t be here today.”

“The best advice that I can give is to carry on, because it is still a life, and God still has a plan,” she said.


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  • Tux

    Wow – these “medical professionals” are absolutely disgraceful. How could you introduce someone as “the couple who was continuing with the pregnancy against medical advice.”

    The so called “medical advice” in this case was of little consequence.

    God bless both of you for seeing the pregnancy through to its completion.

    • Kevin Snyder

      When “Medical Professionals” are in the employ of the government, not the patient, what do you expect?

      • Tux

        Well, that’s the thing Kevin. I come from a country where we have socialized healthcare (NZ) and to be treated in such a way would be absolutely outrageous. I’m pretty sure there would be a media storm if such a story was reported.

        • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

          When the political/spiritual winds change, those tax-funded disease mongers will move with it too. Beware the BEAST in all its forms.

  • Lindsay Matteis

    Great that the baby was born how it was supposed to be, but how is this malpractice?

    • Paul

      Who said it was malpractice? That word doesn’t appear in the article.

      • Lindsay Matteis

        Saw this via a FB post titled “because of malpractice, it could have cost this baby its life”. Just misinformation. My b.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          I think it’s malpractice: in God’s eyes, it surely is. Certainly, the nurse should be condemned publicly for her atrocious behavior, and the doctors should have to publicly explain how something they were “sure” was going to happen did not. Does Ireland have the equivalent of ObamaDoesntCare? That would explain everything.
          To the nurses and doctors who wrongly recommended the murder of an unborn child who turned out to be perfectly healthy:
          I pray that you will come to a saving faith in Christ Jesus. That you will recognize that not only are you NOT God, but you aren’t even close. That you will immediately leave the medical profession due to your immoralities, repent of these abominations, and find a more suitable one for you: pest exterminator might be a good fit. I pray this in the name of Christ Jesus. Amen.

          • Robby Clewley

            I guess you dont respect a womans right to choose

          • mplack

            Women have the right to have sex. If a baby being killed could be the outcome, don’t have sex. It is not the woman’s right to kill baby God created.

          • Robby Clewley

            My opinion is that I think abortion should be the last option but its HER body so its HER choice.

          • mplack

            It’s not “her body” being ripped apart and thrown in the trash. It’s about the body of a baby.

          • Robby Clewley

            Like I said , I think a woman should choose not to have an abortion but it is still HER choice and I support that choice and so does the LAW thankfully.

          • sjoe

            How would you have felt if your mom had that choice?

          • Robby Clewley

            if i was not born i would not feel anything lol

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Another HOMO supporting MURDER. Nothing new. All that hate God love DEATH.

            And no. You are NOT a Christian. You are a sodomite.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            THANKS FOR SHOWING WHY THE EVIL ABRAHAMIC “GOD” & HIS FOLLOWERS ARE DETESTABLE SCUMS IN EVERY REGARD ! THIS MAKES ME HAPPY I STOPPED GOING TO CHURCH & GIVING MY LIFE UP FOR A FALSE MINISTRY !

            MASTER LUCIFER HAS SHOWN HUMANITY THE RIGHT WAY, IT IS YOUR WORTHLESS “GOD” THAT’S AN EVIL LIAR. HE’S EVIL JUST LIKE YOU…

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Your master is the PROUD, father of LIES.

            You cannot convince my master Jesus of ANY EVIL.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Christ Jesus of Nazareth is the Truth.

            Sucks to be a shit-sucker like you.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            SUCKS EVEN MORE TO BE A CLOSED-MINDED FOOL LIKE YOURSELF AWWW 🙁

          • sjoe

            Yes she has right to her body, not the body of the child. If she wants she can destroy her body, not the body of the unborn child.

          • Robby Clewley

            you mean a FETUS , not a child .

          • sjoe

            I don’t understand. You say that you do not support abortion and only support woman’s right to her body. If its fetus (which for some reason you think is not human), why exactly wont you support abortion? Why support just the woman’s right?

          • Robby Clewley

            lets see , i dont have a vagina so i really dont have a say in it , if you are a guy you dont either. i support womans rights and a womans right is her right to choose to have an abortion is she chooses , i support that. so you want to make abortion illegal i am guessing ?

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            FETUS = LITTLE ONE. A living soul, in and out of the womb. FACT.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            YOU ABRAHAMICS HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR LIFE RIGHT ? THAT’S WHY YOU SEND YOUNG PEOPLE TO THEIR DOOM IN YOUR SO CALLED “HOLY” WARS.

          • Pax Humana

            Well, if you jerk weeds were not trying to bump off the Israelites, then MAYBE your ancestors would not have received a mud hole stomping from YAHWEH EL ELOHIM, so sod off, you attention whoring troll, and take your historical revisionist lies elsewhere, you worker of iniquity and servant of Lucifer and his Illuminati system!

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            NO ONES TRYING TO “BUMP” OFF ISRAELITES OR JEWS ! WE ONLY HATE THE ABRAHAMICS, YOU CAN BE ANY RACE AND FOLLOW THE EVIL “GOD” OF ABRAHAM.

            WE LOVE JEWS LIKE AYN RAND, BUT WE DON’T LOVE THE RABBIS, IMAMS, OR PRIESTS IN FAVOR OF DESTROYING THE LIVES OF OTHERS IN SERVICE TO THEIR EVIL ABRAHAMIC “GOD”.

            MASTER LUCIFER DEMANDS TOTAL FREEDOM FOR HUMANITY !!!

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            YOU worship the State, but True Christians will NEVER do so. Amen.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            YOU KNOW NOTHING ! L.H.P. ADEPTS WORSHIP NO ONE, DON’T CONFUSE WANTING A SOCIETY FREE OF THE ABRAHAMIC OVERLORDS AS WORSHIPPING THE “STATE”, IT’S JUST THE NATURAL WAY FOR HUMANITY TO BE LIVING…

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Your god is a SLAVER. The State is all about SLAVERY. Enjoy, fool. B4 u burn in Hell.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            “Darkness is stronger than light; because light must struggle to exist; but darkness exists even it does nothing!”

            ― Mehmet Murat ildan

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Don’t blame Illuminati wars on Bible Christians, fool.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            MORE EXCUSES FOR YOUR SORRY ABRAHAMIC CULT LOL 🙂

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I respect a woman’s right to choose: chocolate, cars, whom to vote for, where to send her kids to school. But, I do not respect a woman’s right to choose to kill her baby or to hire an assassin to do so. Do you respect a man’s right to “choose” to rape, murder, or steal, Robby?

          • Robby Clewley

            No matter what you believe , its still her right to choose if she wants to keep a baby or not. To murder, rape or steal is a CRIME. Last I checked abortion was legal.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh, Robby, you poor soul. You have just given two excellent reasons for owning black people in the 1800’s: the right to “choose” (to own black people), and the fact that owning black people was 100% legal. Let me guess: you are a Democrat, right? Just like your ideological ancestors who fought the Civil War for the right to own black people, you are fighting the War on the Womb, but, once again, on the wrong side – the Democrat side.
            You are correct that it’s her right to choose to keep the baby or not: she can put the little child up for adoption after he or she is born. But there is never a “right” to do a wrong: kill an innocent, defenseless human being (in the womb or out). “Legal” does not equate to “moral.” Surely, you are old enough to know the difference?

          • Robby Clewley

            Im more liberal than a democrat. I hardly think this compares to owning black people.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Dearest Robby, you miss the point: the same arguments that are now being used for killing innocent human beings in the womb were also used in the 1800’s for owning black people. Here is a small sample:

            “It’s legal, I have the right to choose, it should be allowed for economic reasons, they aren’t human, it’s better for them too, who are you to force your religion on me?” Sound familiar?!? it worked in the 1800’s and it has worked again since 1973.
            You are correct that abortion does not compare with owning black people. It’s far worse. In the former case, a human being loses her life; in the latter, just her freedom. In fact, without the right to life, all other rights are quite irrelevant, including the right to not be owned by other people.
            We really have to wonder how it is that the Democrat Party was wrong on the “right to freedom” for black human beings in the 1800’s and now wrong on the “right to life” for unborn human beings now. It really is an interesting connection, isn’t it?
            God bless you, Robby! You are going to make a great pro-lifer some day! I mean that sincerely.

          • Robby Clewley

            I support a woman’s right to choose so could never be a “pro lifer”. I support womens rights, sad that you dont

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            You support a woman’s right to choose to murder her baby?!? Now, THAT is sad. 🙁
            Just admit it, Robby: you want all the sex without consequences you can get, and you don’t care how many babies have to die so that your selfish pleasures are satisfied.
            You were the type who was standing around in the 1800’s saying “I support a plantation owner’s right to choose (to own black people),” and who lived in Germany in the 1930’s “I support the Nazi’s right to choose (to gas Jews).” Yes, you are all about unlimited “choice,” and as long as your narcissistic selfish desires are satisfied, then the weak, powerless, innocent, and defenseless don’t get any say whatsoever when it comes to your evil “choices.” Shame on you, Robby, for preying on the helpless and supporting others who do!

          • Robby Clewley

            I support womans rights . I guess you dont. You want to control them. Its not about sex , its about not telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her own body.

          • KenS

            It is not her body, it is a baby that God has given her to nourish and care for.

          • Robby Clewley

            no its her body

          • KenS

            Really,you going to tell me that a baby is her body? I don’t think so, why don’t you ask a doctor if that baby is her body or another body altogether. Also, answer me this question, why if someone were to kill a pregnant woman, he can be charged with 2 murders, but a woman can kill the baby her self and not be charged with anything? If the law considers it murder in the first instance, it should be murder in the latter as well.

          • Robby Clewley

            I dont know why the laws are the way they are but with abortion its ALWAYS a womans right. That law will never change . I dont advocate abortion , think it should be last resort but I support a woman’s right to choose.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Great! So, you supported the laws outlawing abortion prior to 1973, right, Robby? The tide is turning against you and the pro-deathers, Robby. Laws are being passed limiting abortion throughout the country. The clock is being turned back so that innocent defenseless babies will once again be protected in the one place that every REAL woman knows they should be. And, when abortion is abolished, I am glad to know that you will be 100% supportive of those laws. Smile, Robby: YOUR Mom choose life. 🙂

          • Robby Clewley

            WOMANS RIGHT TO CHOOSE

          • sjoe

            Robby seriously, your argument is totally childish. By your statement there are no absolute moral values which is absurd.

          • Robby Clewley

            Yes there are moral values. dont murder (no, abortion isnt murder) dont steal, dont make fun of people or be mean, dont rape, dont abuse animals or children … lots of morals BUT regardless what you think about abortion the law says its a womans right to choose and we cant restrict that . its about womans rights.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Precisely what the Nazis and slave owners said: it was THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE. You are in very poor company, Robby. I’m praying for you, though: you will make a great pro-lifer some day when (if?) you wake up to your immoral views! God bless!

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Robby, you talk about rights and choice, but you exclude the rights of the weakest and most defenseless: the baby in the womb. Here are two questions I would love to hear you answer:
            1. Do human beings have intrinsic moral value?
            2. Is what is located in the womb, post-conception, a human being?
            Thanks for your answers and God bless you, Robby!

          • Robby Clewley

            Not a baby until birth sorry to say.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Why are you afraid to answer my two questions, Robby?!? I asked you if that was a human being in the womb, and you replied about babies. Are you afraid that your answer to both questions is “yes,” and then you will find yourself on the wrong side of the worst holocaust in human history? That you might feel guilty for encouraging women to kill those innocent, defenseless human beings in their womb?
            It was a hallmark of the Third Reich that the Nazis loved to play word games in describing the Jews. “Sub-human” was a favorite of theirs. Please convince me that you are not in the same class as the Nazis, because it sure looks like it! Technically, it wasn’t “murder” to kill the Jews either, because it was 100% legal. You are using the same arguments the Nazis used, Robby. Not a good sign.

          • Robby Clewley

            Lets get one thing straight , I do not encourage women to have abortions but I support their right to do so. I think it should be a last option BUT its her option and nobody should tell a woman she cannot. Its an organism in the womb until six months . The bible even says its not a life until birth. The right for a woman to choose has nothing to do with Nazis , thats an insult to all women .

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “It’s an organism?!?” Laughable! What kind of organism, Robby? A human being, right?!? Are you not using the term “organism” in much the same way as the Nazis used the term “sub-human?!?” You really do need to convince yourself that these women are not killing innocent defenseless human beings in the womb, don’t you? So, you play word games to assuage your guilt. The Nazis did this too. Then, when that didn’t work, they just got drunk and had orgies. Because even the Nazis knew, deep down, WAY deep down, that human beings have intrinsic moral value. Just like you do, deep down somewhere, Robby.

            Why don’t you encourage women to have an abortion, Robby, if an abortion is a “right?” I encourage all people to partake of their rights. Why should it be a “last option,” Robby?!? What’s wrong with abortion – if you are so strongly advocating for it? Because it’s killing an innocent defenseless human being, right?!?

            Finally, where in the world does the Bible say the baby in the womb is not alive? Are you reading from that Satanic “bible” again, Robby? They are so into child sacrifice, just like the pro-abortion crowd. My Bible says that both Jesus and John the Baptist were alive and well in the womb:
            ’39 At that time Mary got ready and hurried to a town in the hill country of Judea, 40 where she entered Zechariah’s home and greeted Elizabeth. 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42 In a loud voice she exclaimed: “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43 But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!” ‘ Luke 1:39-45 (NIV)

          • Robby Clewley

            Its a womans choice. Like I said , I would advise a woman to have the baby and give it up for adoption but if she chooses to have an abortion then that is her choice and nobody should be able to tell her she cannot. Abortion is legal and that will never change. You are fighting a losing battle WorldGoneCrazy.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “Fighting a losing battle?!?” That’s what the plantation owners said before and during the Civil War! You are in VERY poor company, Robby! 🙂
            “It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish.” — Mother Teresa

            “I’ve noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” — Ronald Reagan

            “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.” — Psalm 139

            “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” — John 3:16-18

          • Robby Clewley

            It has nothing to do with anything except one thing. Its a womans choice, not yours and not mine. its hers and always will be .

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Yes, it IS a woman’s choice to kill the unborn human being in her womb. It was also a man’s choice to own black people, and a Nazi’s choice to kill Jews. It is a rapist’s choice to rape, a thief’s choice to steal, a killer’s choice to kill. You cannot hide behind the word “choice,” Robby, because when you do, you sanction the entire spectrum of atrocities. And God just might not like that.

          • Robby Clewley

            all those things you compared it to are ILLEGAL. abortion is not and never will be . Sorry but thats the way it is .

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Robby, owning black people and killing Jews were NOT illegal when they were done. So, what you are saying, once again, was that, had you lived in Germany in the 1930’s or America in the 1800’s, you would have supported these atrocities because:

            a. They were legal, and
            b. The plantation owners and Nazis had a right to choose.

            Do you see what a horrible ethic that is?!? The reason your moral compass is not working, Robby, is because, like all a-theists, you cannot ground objective moral values and duties. The “pope” and “cardinals” of a-theism even admit it: https://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/an-atheist-explains-the-real-consequences-of-adopting-an-atheistic-worldview/#comment-101449

          • Robby Clewley

            Why do you make such odd off the wall comparisons. What part of its a womans right to choose dont you understand ? Its her body , her choice. It doesnt matter what you think about it anyway , the law is clear that its a LEGAL right. Roe v Wade ring a bell ?

          • sjoe

            lol lol lol

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            The baby in the womb is NOT her body, Robby. That sweet boy or girl is a totally dependent but separate human being. Here is what he or she looks like after monsters like you and your type get done with her: http://herestheblood.com/

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh, and here is a good short blurb of you liberals and why you supported slavery in the 1800’s and abortion now: http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/09/the-unmistakable-parallels-between-abortion-and-slavery/

            And, in the off-chance that you decide to become a Christian, here is a nice little summary of abortion and the Jewish Holocaust, written from the Christian perspective: http://www.repentamerica.com/singalittlelouder.html

          • Robby Clewley

            Just get over it World. Abortion isnt going anywhere .

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I love it and you, Robby! If “abortion isn’t going anywhere,” then why have states legislated significant restrictions on abortion that have made it “go somewhere”?!? Why have the polling trends shown that your side is losing? How many times in the 1800’s did the slave owners say to the abolitionists “Get over it. Slavery isn’t going anywhere.”?!?

            On the other hand, your co-aborts of the hardened hearts are now taking abortion to its logical conclusion: post-birth abortion. Yes, this is where such insanity necessarily leads! Ever ask yourself why the National Barack Channel did not cover the Gosnell trial for the first 6 weeks, Robby? Two reasons: 1. Gosnell just put into practice what the Abortion president held as doctrine when he voted against the Born Alive Act 3 times as a senator. 2. The trial begged the question: If killing a baby 1 minute after she is born is immoral, then why is killing her one minute before she is born a “right”?

            And, in fact, many pro-aborts, not just Peter Singer, DO indeed admit that, in order to cling to their murderous pre-birth abortion ideology, they must accept a post-birth abortion reality: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/19896/
            So, this is why you MUST consider giving up serving the devil of death and turn to the God of Life. (John 3:16-18) God bless you, Robby!

          • Robby Clewley

            Roe v Wade has to be overturned for those states restrictions to be legally binding . News for you, Roe v Wade will never be overturned.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            That’s what they said about slavery! You just HOPE they never overturn it, but even pro-aborts recognize that Roe is a terrible piece of judicial activism. They admit it, but “it was necessary to achieve the goal.” In other words: the ends justify the means. Precisely the same as the Nazi view.
            But, if God is for real – and He is! – then Roe will most certainly be overturned, along with those who support it. 57 million innocent defenseless human beings (in Amerika alone) cry out for justice. And they WILL receive it, whether you like it or not.
            Robby, I see you are really good about making assertions, but not so good on human biology, logic, ethics, philosophy, etc. You just keep asserting the vacuous “woman’s right to choose” but don’t address the intellectual arguments. You should spend a little more time studying issues and a lot less time listening to extremist liberal propaganda.
            And, in the meantime, get right with the God of Life. I fear for your soul, Robby!

          • Robby Clewley

            you cant compare the two. why would you want to deny women their constitutional rights ?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            There are no “rights” to do a wrong, Robby. Again, you sound like a slaver – they made the same argument.
            You are good at soundbites, but REALLY bad at thinking for yourself. Now, where is that in the Constitution – that a child has the right to have her life taken from her by a selfish mother? Or even that a woman has the “right” to hire an assassin to chop up her baby in the womb?
            Robby, are you even capable of comprehending that ALL human rights are predicated on the right to LIFE?!? Without that right, all of the other rights are meaningless. The cold-hearted mother who has her baby offed must first have achieved her right to life before she could take another’s life. Do you not understand something this basic?!? Or, are you really that cruel of a person that you DO understand but just don’t care about anyone but yourself?

          • Robby Clewley

            womans right to choose. thats the bottom line.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “Nazis right to choose. Slavers right to choose. Bottom line.” That’s where your spiritual darkness leads you, Robby. I’m praying that the God of Life and Light, Jesus Christ, will pull you out of abject darkness – Amen!

          • Robby Clewley

            You dont get it do you

          • sjoe

            Owning a slave was not illegal then… so by your statement it wasn’t wrong then.

          • Robby Clewley

            now who is making childish arguments

          • sjoe

            You were the one who said since abortion is legal, its legal to do it. Wasn’t owning slaves too legal. Why does that then disgust you? I dont understand the double standard. Its not a childish argument. There is logic here, please try to at least give a try to understand the logic.

          • sjoe

            Have you ever seen an ultrasound. Maybe you chose to abort your baby before seeing that, which is why to you its not human.

          • Robby Clewley

            Yes I have four kids. I have seen ultrasounds but the point is … i personally dont think people should get abortions but i support a womans right to get one , its up to her not us.

          • sjoe

            Would you have been okay if your wife had chosen to abort your four kids? Please share the answers with your kids too, if you said yes.

          • Robby Clewley

            Personally i would not want that but if she said “honey , i dont want these babies , i am gonna abort them ” its her choice , i cannot control her … its always a womans choice, thats why its legal .

          • sjoe

            Actually I feel sorry for you Robby. A child is both woman and man’s resposibility. You have bought into the lie that the society is feeding you. You have right to your baby as much as she has right to her baby.

          • Robby Clewley

            Then why is abortion legal ? You dont support womens rights i guess. no need to feel sorry for me . I am pro choice like MILLIONS of americans are.

          • sjoe

            Why was slavery legal 100 years back? Because government was delusional and people were delusional. Same now. Just becuase its today doesn’t remove foolishness from the equation. You are pro choice anti abortionist to be precise 🙂

          • Robby Clewley

            I support a womans right to choose , that is what abortion is about. right wrong indifferent i dont know .. but its HER choice ALWAYS. I support that. If you have morals and believe in womans rights you would too. I guess you are part of this war on women.

          • Robby Clewley

            but me and my husband raise those kids now … not with my wife anymore but thats a different topic lol.

          • sjoe

            Ah, now I think I get a better picture why you are saying what you are saying. Yes its a different topic but common denominator. And now I understand what you mean when you say you are a liberal Christian

          • Robby Clewley

            whys it a common denominator ?

          • sjoe

            The common denominator is that you are a liberal in not just abortion but in everything.

          • Robby Clewley

            Oh yes most definitely

          • sjoe

            Yeah… most definitely…. liberal Christian is an oxymoron. Liberals pull out scriptures to suit their need and call God the liar and still call themselves affiliated to the same God. Morals are absolute according to the God of the Bible and there cannot be subjective moral but that’s exactly what the liberals contend.

            But that apart, how do you liberal Christian answer “You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
            Every moment was laid out
            before a single day had passed” Psalm 139:16?

            God sees the fetus as life and infact plans the days even before a single day has passed (post birth). How can you then call a fetus as nothing and call it not a human when God clearly calls it human?

          • Robby Clewley

            I never call God a liar , i love God and praise him. I call those few men who wrote hateful versus in the bible and then said God said it. God is about love and acceptance only. Conservative Christians are about judgement and hate . They are about being against womans and gays rights. It doesnt matter if its human or not. The main point is that its a womans choice , thats what the law says and it will remain that way. Sorry but your twisted ideology wont win.

          • sjoe

            Ha ha Robby… you just agreed that you dont believe everything that is there in the Bible which implies you twist it a bit and tweek it here and there to suit your needs and then call me of having twisted ideology. Now that’s really twisted. And you know what else is twisted. Thinking that conservatives hate gay and women. I am woman and I wouldn’t I want woman to have life? If I hate a fellow human, there is no way I can love God. I am a conservative and yet I can love people. If I hated you, would I still be talking to you having known that you are outside of the biblical marriage. And yet, liberals always cry victim and so do gays and women’s right people…
            And when you say you do not care whether or not its human, that really shows how loving you are… how biased your view is and how discriminating you are towards unborn humans.

            And this excuse of the law says its legal so it should be right is a really lame non-adult like argument. There are many countries who have state laws that support stoning woman to death for not covering their face. Their law supports it so are you saying it is right for its citizen to follow it? There are so many real life examples of flawed laws in many countries including United States. That’s why God’s law is superior to Human law. God’s law is never flawed. Human law can be flawed. If we put our trust in human law, this is what happens, mass murder of unborn defenseless humans.

          • sjoe

            And btw, you said God is about love and acceptance only. Which Bible do you read? Do you accept that God is merciful but is also a very righteous Judge? if you don’t accept the Judge role of God, then probably you should go back and read the entire Bible.

          • Robby Clewley

            No i dont believe everything in the bible. Most I do but I dont believe being gay is wrong, i dont believe sex outside of marriage is wrong , i am pro choice , and i dont believe god is a vengeful god like the bible suggests . God is loving and there are only a few clear cut sins. Murder, rape, stealing , and lying. Those are sins. conservatives are against equal rights , they are all about restrictions , except when it comes to owning an evil gun of course. You have the wrong concept of what God is .. I suggest you do some soul searching.

          • sjoe

            Well, since you do not believe in the God of the Bible, I guess we believe in two different Gods. And thus our arguments are not gonna make any difference. oh yes I have done. I have done more soul searching than you probably have. Sex outside marriage was wrong according to Jesus and that’s why he said “Go and sin no more” when he forgave the harlot. He did not hate her but He commanded her to sin no more. Abstinance was supported by Jesus and suggested for people who could and that included eunuchs. But hey, what’s the point if you dont believe in the Jesus of the Bible or the God of the Bible… you can choose to be blind… its your right. He that has ears let him hear was what Jesus said… he said that to both religious nuts and sinners alike. All are sinners and yes God is compassionate and willing to forgive yes but God/Jesus called sin as sin. To say that He didnt is a lie that you choose to believe in. God is compassionate and but also a righteous Judge. He will forgive them that repent of even the most horrible sin. I believe God will forgive even Bin Laden if he had sought repentance but until repentance of sin comes, His righteous judgement will prevail. Rejecting the judgement part and ignoring every kind of sin and substituting with a simplistic list of sins for your convenience is equal to calling God a liar, whether you like it or not, that’s what it is. You will see that God is a righteous Judge some day, be it when you are alive here or when your life ends. Till then I leave you to what you want to believe in. No force no compulsion. Let’s stop it here as there is really nothing more to discuss. Thank you for the conversation. Wishing you well.

          • Robby Clewley

            i believe in jesus , just believe some of bible has misinformation and errors. sure we can stop, we both have our own opinions . wishing you well too.

          • sjoe

            I dont believe owning a gun is right either… so we agree on something i guess

          • Robby Clewley

            yes we agree on something, thats good.

          • sjoe

            I will be back tomorrow… Gotta run now.

          • Robby Clewley

            yeah when people lose a debate they usually do that 🙂

          • sjoe

            Yeah whatever you say Robby…

          • Robby Clewley

            🙂

          • Pax Humana

            I guess your mother should have swallowed and your father should have pulled out sooner in the case of yourself. The same thing will also apply for nut jobs like VINDICATOR and anyone else that does not support YAHWEH EL ELOHIM and that seek to betray, rebel, and commit sedition and treason against Him, period, full stop.

          • sjoe

            … and that includes having uncontrolled sex and aborting another life. What a great logic!

          • Robby Clewley

            what on earth is uncontrolled sex lol

          • sjoe

            exactly what its supposed to mean… uncontrolled, unthought and exercising so called right over ones own body. There isn’t anything to lol here. Uncontrolled, unprotected, unbriddled expression of sexual desire leads to pregnancy and abortion. I know you support that too… because you are a liberal Christian!

          • Robby Clewley

            if people want to have sex and they are consenting adults then they should be able to. Of course safe sex should be had but i would never judge someone for making their choices. whats wrong with sexual desire? god created us as sexual beings

          • sjoe

            Nothing’s wrong with sexual desire but God also created fetuses and unborn children. What’s wrong with them…? Why destroy them?

          • Robby Clewley

            I dont know why woman have abortions , they have their reasons . I say try to have the baby but if you must have an abortion so be it. Its their choice, they should be free to make that choice. whats next , you gonna tell them when they can have their period too ?

          • sjoe

            Robby… you are comparing a woman’s period to a baby being aborted? Seriously, you have four kids???

          • Robby Clewley

            Yes I do. I had a gf who had an abortion once , i wished she had not but it was HER choice. why do you want to control womans choices

          • sjoe

            You had a say on it because it was your sperm… Duh!

          • Robby Clewley

            thats not what the law says

          • Robby Clewley

            not murder.

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            Yes murder . When you are face to face with the Lord you can try to defend yourself . You can try to Justify your life style as well .

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Typical example of fags & femcunts sharing the demon of REBELLION. This is why they get along. They both hate God. The God of the Holy Bible: JESUS THE CHRIST.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            The right-hand path seeks union with and thus dependence on God, the
            left-hand path seeks a “higher law” based on knowledge and power. It is
            the way of independence, self-empowerment, and true personal freedom.

            Following a carefully crafted definition of a true adherent of the
            left-hand path based on two main principles–self-deification and
            challenge to the conventions of “good” and “evil”.

            The left-hand path is not evil but part of our heritage and our
            deep-seated desire to be free, independent, and in control of our own
            destinies as sentient beings.

            The Abrahamic God’s body count = 2,476,633

            Father Satan’s body count = 10

            If you like serving EVIL, the choice is CLEAR !!!

            SUPPORT HUMAN FREEDOM OVER TYRANNY ! LEFT HAND PATH FOREVER !

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Satan only killed 10??? what??? Abortion alone has killed 56 MILLION in the USA alone, from what I have read.

          • https://www.youtube.com/user/loveunderlaw Loveunderlaw

            WORDS FOR MANKIND TO LIVE BY ! DEATH TO TYRANTS, LONG LIVE THE ILLUMINATI !!!

            Force, coercion, threat of force, or fraud initiated against any individual

            for any reason by any individual, groups of individuals, societies, or

            governments is morally wrong. That is the only categorical moral statement

            possible.

            That statement must, by its nature, be the categorical, irreducible, and

            fundamental standard for all conscious beings, always, everywhere. That

            statement is the moral axiom upon which every Neo-Tech/Psychuous Concept

            rests.

            The initiation of force and fraud among conscious beings is not only the basic

            moral wrong and evil, but is the primary tool used by all professional mystics

            and neocheaters to survive through value destruction.

            No exceptions to the immorality of initiatory force exist. No matter how

            “noble” the ends, they never justify the means of initiating force, fraud, or

            coercion against any individual.

            Any government or activity that depends on or uses initiatory force, threat of

            force, or coercion is immoral and destructive. Therefore, all taxation backed

            by force, all conscription backed by force, and all laws that regulate or

            control by force or coercion are immoral.

            The only laws that are objectively just and moral are those that protect the

            life and property rights of individuals from initiatory force and fraud.

            All other laws that regulate people’s lives or property are morally wrong,

            contrary to human nature, and harmful to everyone.

            Such immoral laws include those that restrict or prohibit drugs, alcohol,

            prostitution, abortion (of the fetus at any age), or any form of censorship or

            restriction of voluntary sexual activity. All such laws are morally wrong

            because they use threats or force against individuals.

            Dr. Frank Wallace,

            Neo-Tech Founder &
            Illuminati Master

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            Both are evil . Both was legal at one time .

          • KenS

            Killing a baby is murder, just because the supreme court made a wrong decision, doesn’t mean it isn’t still murder and wrong in God’s eyes.

          • Robby Clewley

            its her right under the laws of the states

          • KenS

            wrong, it is just legal under the misguided ruling of the Supreme Court.

          • Robby Clewley

            The point is that it is legal in the US and there is nothing you can do to change that . Sorry bud

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            You say you are a Christian but you support sin . ……

          • sjoe

            so law of states is better than law of God? My guess you dont believe in God so maybe this question is redundant.

          • Robby Clewley

            No , but God doesnt say abortion is wrong . I am a Christian yes , a LIBERAL Christian .

          • sjoe

            God does say murder is wrong. God does say that whoever puts a stumbling block before one of these little ones, its better for them to die.

          • Robby Clewley

            abortion isnt murder, i agree it should be a last resort but its a womans choice. you must hate that the law agrees with me .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            Abortion is murder.

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            God is not like sinful man/woman . God is not for the murder of the unborn .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            (((((((((Carnal Christian)))))))))) Paul talks about them .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            Abortion is only legal in the eyes of Humans . It is not legal in the eyes of God .

          • Pax Humana

            I guess you do not recognize that this so-called “right” is essentially a carte blanche move to allow a sexist double standard of hypocrisy and misandry to slaughter the unborn, am I right, Bobby, you servant of Lucifer? You and VINDICATOR will BOTH be having seats in Sheol (Hell) along with the other forces of evil that you pretend to fight against and the people that do good that you slander will also join me in sending you all there en masse, you workers of iniquity!

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            To choose to kill an Unborn Human Life is wrong . I wish I saw this six months ago .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            .In Jesus Name Amen !

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Amen!

    • lake

      If that’s not malpractice, I don’t know what is.

      • jmichael39

        I wouldn’t necessarily call it malpractice. For all we know, all their tests were correct and God simply answered some prayers and healed that baby in the womb. We don’t know.

  • Elizabeth Neely

    this happened to some friends of mine about 20 years ago, they were told to abort because the child was (mis) diagnosed with Downs syndrome, She was born perfectly healthy..there are alot of Doctors and Midwives seeking to destroy our posterity dont allow it….

  • Nicole Lorraine Bradley

    That’s crazy the same thing happened to my mother during the birth of my little brother. She was told he would be born with down syndrome and that he wouldn’t be “normal” and that its “hard” to care for a newborn with disabilities and suggested that he be aborted. My mother who is a very Christian women decided to keep him. When he was born 6 weeks early he was completely abled. Perfect weight, normal developments, and not a sign of down syndrome., the doctors were surprised. Today he’s a 17 yro huge football player doing great in school. Honestly im glad she kept him. Even if he had been disabled I would love him the same.

  • Bob Patterson

    We really need to have a respect for those who work in the medical field but always have an open mind that they may be wrong at times. They are human after all. I think God will always want us to choose life though.

    • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

      NO. We don’t need to respect anyone in any field. We must respect truth who is Christ. He is life.

      The Devil loves DEATH.

      • Pax Humana

        You apparently want suicide for yourself if you hate the nation of Israel and Jews, Vinnie boy!

        • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

          Pax – or is that PUKES? LOL! – you will go to Hell with the Synagogue of Satan.

          For others who wish to be helped OUT of their Satanic Zionism: TexeMarrs.com & RealJewNews.com

        • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

          [email protected] You have been possessed by the demon of ZIONISM aka Jewish Supremacy.

          TexeMarrs.com will help you.

        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          Wow . there are a lot of people like him . At first I thought he was a Christian. But true Christians do not hate Israel and God’s chosen people He . gives me the chills .

  • bowie1

    My parents doctor in 1952 thought I might have walking difficulties because of partially conjoined toes and put a leg brace on. Eventually though it seemed I didn’t need those and I could walk just fine.

  • shelly

    ugly baby tho

    • Fantaesia Barrett

      I can’t believe you said that. That baby is beautiful.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Spoken like a truly ugly pro-deather.

  • Robby Clewley

    Why must the Christian right continuously crusade against modern medicine and woman’s rights?

    • jmichael39

      If medical science had somehow thought they’d figured out the gene that leads a person to being homosexual, Robby…would you still want that woman to have the right to abort that baby because she didn’t want to raise a potentially gay child?

      • Robby Clewley

        Two separate issues. I support a womans right to abort if she chooses. and if you value women you would support that as well.

  • Michelle Bowen

    AMEN! Thats bullying tactics that the Dr used. I hate Dr’s like that. I cannot stand it when you are treated that way. I am glad you boy is alive and healthy. I’m sure that shocked them into silence! (HUGS) God bless you and your precious baby Joshua!

  • Melissa Chandler

    I was told my baby was dead by a the doctor. I insisted on an ultrasound before they did any procedures and saw a hand waving in the air. My mom asked what I was going to do and I told her get another doctor. One who supports life! My son will be 30 in a couple of months.

  • Robby Clewley

    proof of the fetus not being a life.

    Luke 1:35: “…The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” In this passage, the angels refer to the fetus which Mary will carry as a “thing,” not a male person. The gender in the original Greek is neuter. Jesus is only referred to by the title “Son of God” after he is born, presumably after he becomes a person. This is consistent with the traditional Jewish belief that a fetus becomes a full human after it has half-emerged from the mother’s birth canal.

    • Exponent

      Robby, there are many translations of the Bible, and many of them are poor, hence giving the wrong impression of what the original source actually says.

      Two English translations often used by the Catholic Church are Douay-Rheims, (completed in 1610 and hence has some old-English wording, but is quite faithful to the Latin Vulgate Bible), and the New American Bible (1970 to 2011, updating for English language changes often). NEITHER one has anything like the language you quote in them.

      D-R, Luke, 1:35: “And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.”

      NAB, Luke, 1:35: “And the angel said to her in reply, “The holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.”

      Please honestly seek out help with understanding human life, morals, and actual Christian teaching.

      • Robby Clewley

        I know about morals

  • David

    If she hasn’t already, should sue the clinic for misdiagnosis, emotional grief and damage, and libel from the nurse. I would have change the provider immediately. She was too tolerant. This happens all of the time. We should always seek a second and maybe third independent opinion if necessary.

  • 4everlife

    To all expectant parents: pray for a doctor to help you with your new family member-to-be. You know, there may be gynecologists and obstetricians anointed by Satan to tell expectant parents lies about their unborn for them to consider violating the seventh commandment.

    • 4everlife

      The SIXTH COMMANDMENT, not the seventh … sorry my brothers and sisters.

  • Vikki Stefans

    Well, medical professionals notoriously underestimate quality (not to mention quantity) of life for people with disabilities. I can’t begin to share some of the awful things I’ve heard from my colleagues, even the ones who know I am a rehab doc. Some really think that spina bifida always means you can’t walk and will be fully incontinent and have severe intellectual disability and have advised families accordingly. AND, some of them advise abortion out of fear of wrongful life or some such law suit potential. Wrong, either way.

  • NotRight

    Another case where those who think they are God find that they are NOT. Praise God for the little one and my his health be amazing to all. And his spirit in accord with God’s.

  • http://maxfur.com/ Max T. Furr

    Did anyone notice that the baby was born months ago (if the story is true, which I doubt). I can find no independent, non conservative site that gives an objective report, and there are only a few sites “reporting” this at all.

    I believe this to simply be another deceitful, concocted story to rile up the conservative base. The politicians and the people who made up the story know that their base will not vet the “information” as I just did.

    Don’t believe the “family values” conservatives would do such a thing? Fox “News” ran a deceitful story on voter fraud in Arizona at the beginning of early voting in many states. They suggested a man carrying a box of ballots stuffed the ballot box, giving rise to more fear on the right.

    What Fox doesn’t say is that it is legal in Arizona for people to collect ballots and bring them in to the voting station and it happens frequently. The second and most telling omission was that the incident shown happened many MONTHS ago. This is yet another obvious attempt to strike fear in the base. See http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/arizona-voting-scandal-isnt-scandalous-after-all.

    Proof that I am right about conservatives not vetting the propaganda they hear or read will come when the source of my information will be attacked but no objective evidence will be given that the story is false.

    If I am wrong, I will stand corrected by objective evidence (not “evidence” from another conservative blog).

  • OldArkie

    Some doctors think they know everything thus giving bad advise. Thank goodness this woman did not listen to them.

  • kts5556

    This is an awesome story, and yes, the medical professionals made huge errors here. But obviously this baby has had an intra-cranial shunt placed (you can see it in the video), why not tell the whole story? Even if the baby was born with some sort of treatable hydrocephalus condition. This story shows that at 20 weeks they could diagnose that something was wrong, but they WAY over-called it. This a teaching moment for medical prof’s. Today’s technology can tell you if something is probably wrong at even 20 weeks gestation, but such a small baby still has a lot of growing to do, and obviously this baby developed better than they thought. The WHOLE story might be more interesting, but I suppose it’s less sensational than the stretched truth that is written about in this article.

  • http://www.imagineitincorporatedng.com/ Tessa

    That’s the power of faith
    Jesus still does wondrous things.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

    Sometimes I wonder if the parents are being lied to just to push them to choose abortion. Yes, I know it seems crazy “why would a doctor want a person to abort their baby?”. But still, it’s a valid question. Why are doctors so gung-ho about pushing abortion???