Bill Nye ‘the Science Guy’ Releases Book to Promote Evolution, Disparage Biblical Creation

Bill Nye YouTubeBill Nye ‘the Science Guy’ released a book last week, in which he lambasts the biblical creation view and proclaims that the scientific evidence for evolution is incontrovertible.

As previously reported, Nye squared off with Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis earlier this year in a creation-evolution debate that was viewed by millions. Nye later declared that Ham’s creation beliefs are “bad for humankind,”  then asserted that even if he ends up “going to Hell,” it still will not prove a young earth.

Now Nye has again waded into the creation-evolution controversy by releasing a new book entitled “Undeniable: Evolution and the Science of Creation.” In the book, “the Science Guy” touts the many alleged scientific proofs for Darwin’s theory, contending that evolution is “the most meaningful creation story that humans have ever found.”

In an interview last week with the New York Times, Nye said he would love to get his book into the hands of young children before they fully accept the creation worldview.

“My biggest concern about creationist kids is that they’re compelled to suppress their common sense, to suppress their critical thinking skills at a time in human history when we need them more than ever,” he asserted. “By the time you’re 18, you’ve made up your mind. … But if you’re 7 or 8, we got a shot.”

Nye addresses the subject of death in his book, admitting that he does have a fear of death. Nevertheless, he believes death is integral to the evolutionary process.

“[Death is] the key,” he told the publication. “The key is that you can pass on improvements by having kids. And there aren’t enough resources for any population to go completely unchecked, whether the population is humans or crickets. There isn’t enough for everybody, so you compete. And this is one of Darwin’s enormous insights.”

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Soon after the release of “Undeniable,” apologist Ken Ham of the Christian ministry Answers in Genesis wrote a critique of the book, arguing that it is riddled with falsehoods and “undeniably inaccurate.”

“Bill Nye’s new book … combines Nye’s false claim that biblical young-earth creation is dangerously unscientific with his equally false claim that the foundation of all science is evolution,” Ham wrote.

“While Bill Nye claims the evidence for molecules-to-man evolution is undeniably true and dismisses all evidence to the contrary,” he continued, “an objective reader will see that the real battle is not between science and biblical young-earth creation, but between a humanistic worldview and a biblical worldview. In other words, the real issue is between biblical Christianity and all worldviews that reject God’s Word and exalt man’s fallible ideas above God’s Word.”

Ham contended that evolutionists’ claims are not only misleading, but ultimately detrimental to scientific pursuits.

“I want to point out that the public would understand science a lot better if evolutionary scientists would stop treating their humanistic, God-denying, worldview-based interpretations of our origins—which no scientist has ever observed or tested—as if they were as reliable as the conclusions drawn from the testable, repeatable processes of observational science,” he stated.

Ham also stressed that a belief in evolution ultimately undermines the Christian gospel.

“While Bill Nye did not specifically attack Jesus Christ by name,” he explained, “his attack on the foundational book of the Bible with its explanation of the origin of sin, suffering, and death is an attack on Jesus Christ because it destroys the very reason Jesus came to Earth to die for our sin so that we could have fellowship with Him again.”


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  • James Grimes

    I hope that Bill doesn’t believe that Christians will run out and buy his book. I’m waiting to see if this is going to be a bunch of nonsense.

    • BahlSanchin

      You won’t read it anyway. And if you did, you wouldn’t understand it.

      • James Grimes

        “You won’t read it anyway.” You’re right. I wouldn’t waste my time. I am sure that you would droll all over it. Be my guest.

        “And if you did, you wouldn’t understand it.” You have no clue. If you want to be insulting, you have to do a better job.

        BTW, I have seen your comments on this forum and on others. You have a habit of being insulting. Is that what your life is all about? No need to respond; I already know.

        • BahlSanchin

          I only insult idiots. Condratulations. You’re one of my lucky winners!

          • James Grimes

            Come back to me when you learn to spell correctly.

  • Gary

    Lots of people believe lots of things that are not true. I do not object to Nye having his book and stating his opinions. But I do wish he would stop calling his opinions “science”. But I doubt that he will.

    • jmichael39

      I’ll give him enough credit to suggest that his opinions or conclusions are based off science. I just think he lets his secular humanist religion prevent him from accepting the legitimate conclusions others make also based off science.

      • Demopublicrat

        Science? Try assumptions.

        • BarkingDawg

          As opposed to blind faith?

          • Demopublicrat

            Not opposed, required. Nobody would believe idiots like Nye without it.

          • BarkingDawg

            Kind of like believing the genesis story.

          • Demopublicrat

            Is that being taught in government schools as fact at taxpayer expense?

          • BarkingDawg

            In literature classes, yes it is.
            (At least in AP literature classes. A working familiarity with classic mythology is required in order to understand common literary allusions and metaphors. )

          • Demopublicrat

            As scientific fact? I highly doubt it.
            Speaking of classic mythology, is evolutionism getting equal time there?

          • BarkingDawg

            Why would the genisis myth be classified as scientific fact?

            There is 0 evidence to support it

            Evolutionary theory is well supported by evidence.

            Geology, astronomy, physics, etc are all supported by hard data.

            Genisis, meh. Not so much

          • Demopublicrat

            Hacking on other religious beliefs doesn’t prove yours, neither does yammering on about non-existent evidence.

          • bigpawn01

            science is not religion dont try to drag it down to religions level and the evidence is not non-existent it is there you just chose to ignore it and are an ignorant fool as a result.

          • Demopublicrat

            Evolution is science, bla, bla, bla, do you really think saying it repeatedly is going to make it true? Claiming “evidence” then name calling doesn’t make that true either, I’ve been waiting for years to see some evidence, yet all I get are assumptions and speculation (religious belief).

          • bigpawn01

            the evidence is there it is all over the place you just lack the ability to comprehend what you are reading if you even do try to read it. assumptions and speculation are call a hypothesis evolution is based on facts that you seem obviously intent on ignoring. once again evolution is not a religion gods are necessary for title of religion there are no gods in science. i think some times you guys know that science is stronger than your superstition and that is why you try to drag it down to the level of religions o to scoff at it as just an option. science is not an option it is a fact that can not be changed. try reading some books that are factual and put away the ones that claim to have fact that prove a false.

          • Demopublicrat

            Your religion has NO evidence, claiming otherwise does not make it true, you seem to lack the ability to comprehend that.

            “…facts that you seem obviously intent on ignoring…” You seem to be intent on confusing facts with assumptions.

            “i think some times you guys know that science is stronger than your superstition…” Attacking another point of view doesn’t prove evolution, you people never seem to grasp that, but then that statement includes you exploding dot/random chance boy.

          • bigpawn01

            first off you are once again incorrect in calling it a religion evolution is not a religion is better than religion because it has evidence to support it claim unlike creation hypothesis. “Attacking another point of view doesn’t prove evolution,” nope but it sure does make you try to defend some thing that is un-dependable. lmao this sure is fun i know your pulling my leg nobody is really so stupid as to believe a mythical fairy sky daddy went floating around one week and created every thing. good try to had me going for a while but you went to far in being ridiculous in saying you believe some things that were totally preposterous that no sane person would believe.

          • Demopublicrat

            Did I bring up the “sky daddy” thing? No I did not, again, attacking another point of view doesn’t prove evolution or your mythological exploding dot and spontaneous life fairytale – totally preposterous that no sane person would believe.

          • bigpawn01

            actually it is those who believe in voices no one else hears that are considered insane. give praise to your sky daddy, magic man in the sky if you wish but rational minds have no interest in your fairy tell. farther more even if you god was real( and i am not for one minute saying their is any possibility he is) i would do all that was in my power to spit in his face he is a murder of children and brought suffering to innocence and is in no way worthy of the title of god.

          • Demopublicrat

            You can do that yourself while you worship at the altar of the exploding dot and all of the ethnic cleansing that came in the guise of “helping” evolution.

          • Nick Wride

            No, they don’t teach fiction in public schools.

          • Demopublicrat

            Yes, they teach evolutionism in schools.

          • BahlSanchin

            It’s adorable when people with little-to-no scientific education have the arrogance to call people like Bill Nye, “idiots.”

          • Demopublicrat

            It’s adorable when people with little-to-no scientific education have the arrogance to call people like Bill Nye, “science guys”.

          • bigpawn01

            well since you seem to be so smart lets hear you academic back ground in science. look nut case you dont have to be smart to know a scientist is who you go to and trust on matter of science and you can be sure they know what they are talking about even tho you may not understand it. i certainly hope your limited understanding and willingness to doubt the professionals to your medical care if you do we can be sure we wont have to endure your ignorance long.

          • Demopublicrat

            A fifth grader could tell you evolution is a religion.

            “…you dont have to be smart to know a scientist is who you go to and TRUST on matter of science…” Trust as “have faith in” – there’s that religious belief again.
            Still with the ad hominem attacks and appeal to authority, that’s all you religious evolutionism zealots have.

          • bigpawn01

            lmao you guy love to try to change the definitions of words and it work well for your delusional world but here in the real world the rest of sensibleness rational minds know that religion is the worship of a god. i dont need no more faith to believe in evolution than i do to believe that 2+2=4. faith is the acceptance of some thing with out the evidence or despite the evidence. i usual try to recommend books for uneducated people for you i would recommend a dictionary and the instructions not to use it like you do your bible read the word and no matter what their definition change them to what you think they should mean. if you buy a microscope and get some Bactria you can witness evolution the same can not be said of your god now matter how powerful the microscope or telescope no one has seen him or any evidence of him. science nor atheism is a religion you can call it one of you like but people who do not live in a fantasy world know that.

          • Demopublicrat

            Attempting to lump your religion with observable, testable facts also doesn’t make it true, so save the 2+2+4 shtick.

            “faith is the acceptance of some thing with out the evidence or despite the evidence.” Like this: “Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such a hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic.”Todd, Scott C., “A View from Kansas on the Evolution Debates,” Nature (vol. 401. September 30, 1999), p. 423.

            “if you buy a microscope and get some Bactria[sic] you can witness evolution…” I’ll see *drumroll* bacteria! It is bacteria, it was bacteria, and it will always be bacteria, hell I might even see any of the adaptations revert back to the original state if I leave it alone – just like Darwin’s finches.

            No matter how powerful the microscope or telescope no one has seen a dot explode creating life through random chance.

          • bigpawn01

            so says you and none of that holds water anywhere outside your fantasy world.

          • Demopublicrat

            That is true of evolution.

          • bigpawn01

            actually no only religious fundamentalist doubt it. 93% of the national academy of science agrees with evolution. we live in a free nation you are free to believe what ever nonsense you want to believe but as for me i will stick with the people who actually know what they are talking about. once again i recommend Richard Dawkins book “the greatest show on earth”

          • Demopublicrat

            There’s that appeal to authority argument I was looking for, 100% of muslims think that allah is god. Once again, I have already read Dawkins religious commentary.

          • bigpawn01

            good for you im glad you read it i am not glad you where not convinced by all the evidence. but i think more of you now that you say you at lest read it.

          • Demopublicrat

            All the evidence, good one!!! ROFL

          • bigpawn01

            just what i was thinking some how they think their ged makes them smarter than people who went to college.

          • Nick Wride

            Have you noticed what they say about Steven Hawking?

      • Nick Wride

        Secular humanism isn’t a religion, Clyde. You need a Magic Sky Fairy to have a religion.

        • jmichael39

          Actually you don’t. Atheism means No-God….not No-Religion. And the courts agree.

          http://www.scribd.com/doc/245271872/American-Humansits-v-US

          Read it for yourself.

          Also see Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961)
          Other religions without a god
          Bon (Tibet – a form of Buddhism)
          Confucianiam
          Scientology
          Unitarianism (many forms of it are atheistic)
          and of course, now Secular Humanism is afforded religious status in the US.

          • Nick Wride

            They can call it what they want. I know so many people who are Atheist and also call themselves Secular Humanists and none of them believe it’s a religion.

          • jmichael39

            and they, too, can believe whatever they want, but it IS a religion. Atheists even have their own ‘church’ services now. It meets the definition of “religion” enough for the secular humanist group who filed suit in the court case I shared and in several other case to argue that they should be considered and treated as a religion. And obviously the courts in all those cases agree…including the SCOTUS.

            So, who gives a rip what your acquaintances think?

    • bigpawn01

      his opinion are not his opinion they are science.

    • Nick Wride

      As opposed to “Christian Science”, Gary?

  • Bolvon72

    Such a great man, it’s good to see him still going strong and putting out such positive work.

    • James Grimes

      You are delusional. I’m not sure why you are spouting your heresy on a Christian site, but suspect it is gross arrogance.

      • Bolvon72

        You’ll be okay. Just breathe.

      • bigpawn01

        “You are delusional.” say the man that believes in talking snakes, world wide flood s and people coming back from the dead among other impossible things that have no evidence to support them..

        • James Grimes

          LOL. I not interested. Thanks for the laugh anyway.

          • bigpawn01

            no problem my delusional friend anytime

    • bigpawn01

      yes it is it a shame there are not more like him and the hand full that take the time to break science down for the rest of us

  • Threefiddy6

    Ham talkes about God’s word as if he himself is capable of infallibly interpreting God’s word. Even if the bible was the literal word of God, its meaning is distorted by the humanity of the reader.

    Interesting.

    • bigpawn01

      correct he seems to be quite arrogant in his ignorance.

  • jah

    For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”; – 1 Corinthians 3:19

    • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

      The craftiness of ‘wise’ scientists who think that genes evolve is addressed in “Study suggests a unified model for how DNA is read, offering insight into how genes evolve” http://medicalxpress.com/news/2014-11-dna-insight-genes-evolve.html

      The journal article at http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ng.3142.html takes their ridiculous claims about mutations and puts them into the context of nutrient-dependent RNA-directed DNA methylation and what is currently known about how RNA-mediated events link nutrient-dependent cell type differentiation by amino acid substitutions to the de novo creation of genes in species from microbes to man.

      De novo gene creation is considered by evolutionary biologists to be their “holy grail.” As it turns out, it’s proof of God’s creation manifested in every cell of every individual of every species in the context of everything currently known by serious scientists about physics, chemistry, and molecular biology.

      • bigpawn01

        “proof of God” proof and god do not belong in the same sentence since there still is no proof of god only the assumption of god made out of not understanding the natural process at work in the world.

        • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

          What natural processes? I think you may have been taught to believe in evolutionary inferences. The inferences are not based on biological facts that link physics to the chemistry of protein folding via the conserved molecular mechanisms of experience-dependent de novo receptor creation in species from microbes to man. But, if you tell us what you believe is a natural process, the serious scientists here can all have a good laugh.

          • bigpawn01

            imagine that another christian that dont even know what in the heck he is talking about and thinks he knows more than scientist.

          • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

            No, imagine that you responded before learning I am a medical laboratory scientist with a history of published works that refute ridiculous theories about natural processes in reviews of experimental evidence across all scientific disciplines encountered in the context of laboratory testing on people for more than 40 years.

            Nutrient-dependent/pheromone-controlled adaptive evolution: a model. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24693353

            The title would have been “Nutrient-dependent/pheromone-controlled ecological adaptations: a model” if evolutionary theorists did not insist on claiming that there are natural processes, without telling anyone what they are — like you just did.

          • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

            “…a total of 8.2% (7.1–9.2%) of the human genome is presently functional, more than three times as much than is functional and shared between human and mouse. This implies that there is an abundance of sequences with short lived lineage-specific functionality.” http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1004525

            “Of 1.15 million single-nucleotide variants found among more than 15,000 protein-encoding genes, 73% in arose the past 5,000 years, the researchers report. 164,688 of the variants — roughly 14% — were potentially harmful, and of those, 86% arose in the past 5,000 years.” http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v493/n7431/full/nature11690.html

            If I were an evolutionary theist, I would ask a young earth creationist about the difference between “natural processes” and the biological facts represented in these two articles.

            If I had been taught in college to believe in evolutionary theory instead of learning about how ecological variation leads to ecological adaptations, I would demand a tuition refund.

          • bigpawn01

            i have never heard of you before and i suspect the reason why is nobody agree’s with you. it is sad you have an education and instead you ignore common knowledge that even a high school drop out can understand. keep doing your study and writing your books im sure they are of some use to those who need fake scientist to support their claims. in the mean i time i will stick to learning from people like richard dawkins ,lawrence krauass, neil degrass tyson and the majority who practice real science. the money spent on your education was wasted. shame that money could not have gone to some one willing to follow the facts.

          • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

            What’s sad is that people like you think they can comment intelligently on topics they do not understand and challenge someone like me who has published, among other books and journal articles, one awarding winning journal article: Human pheromones: integrating neuroendocrinology and ethology http://www.nel.edu/22_5/NEL220501R01_Review.htm and an award winning book chapter: The Mind’s Eyes: Human pheromones, neuroscience, and male sexual preferences published concurrently as a journal article. http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/kohl.htm

            Indeed, like Bill Nye “The Science Guy,” you go blindly through life and ignore the complexity of creation while dismissing any evidence of that complexity as if it automagically arose via mutations and evolution.

          • bigpawn01

            real scientist rock!!!

          • bigpawn01

            wrong from beginning to end all symptoms of your delusion.”the serious scientists here” no serious scientist would waste his time here as they deal in facts not fiction.

        • Arrie

          Proof of God – I’ve seen it so many times. In countless divine miracles.
          Very sorry to hear that you have not experienced such things that are just beyond this world and beyond what we can reason with our puny reasoning.
          Maybe you should get out more.
          I do not know much about the advances in evolution any more – because it is just a detractor of the truth – which can be found in an Almighty God – creator of heaven and earth.
          the evolutionist and atheist view of today is brought into place with a simple task in mind – to substitute the truth with a lie and to deceive the people and keep those shackled in this world and away from submitting to YHVH.
          So sad that so many fall for it.
          I see you mention natural process. Did you know that it has been the task for a few generations of the lawless man to replace the Law of God with natural law?
          It just made me wonder if natural law and natural process does not hold hands in this quest. Mmmm – some research may be required.

          • bigpawn01

            well thank you for your kind reply but understand when i disagree. miracles and not knowing how some thing happened is not evidence of god. it is funny you would say “substitute the truth with a lie ” evolution has some facts to support it your religion has none. Christianity like all religions is just an attempt o explainable what at the time was explainable and a meant o control people for the good of the government or some other governing authority. sorry but thems the brakes kid hope you break free from the chains of religion some day you seem to be a level headed person.

    • bigpawn01

      the wise know god is fill of sheet

  • Joar Ensomulv Paulsen

    Only in America people belive in the creation teori. By the way, how can you know that your god is the right one 🙂 maby you all will go to hell for the wrong belives. ..lol..:)

    • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

      The Miracles Of Smell And Taste
      http://harunyahya.com/en/Books/4579/the-miracles-of-smell-and/chapter/5050

      Written by an Islamic creationist.

      See also:
      Israeli Middle Schools School to Include Theory of Evolution http://www.educationnews.org/international-uk/israeli-middle-schools-school-to-include-theory-of-evolution/

      “…learning about evolution is not the primary function of the decision, but rather to use it as a building block for students to learn more about their ecology.”

      Tracking niche variation over millennial timescales in sympatric killer whale lineages http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/280/1768/20131481.abstract

      “Ecological variation is the raw material by which natural selection can drive evolutionary divergence [1–4].”

      Divergence exemplifies ecological adaptation via the de novo creation of genes and cell types. Divergenece does not exemplify evolution. See for example: A universal trend of amino acid gain and loss in protein evolution http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v433/n7026/full/nature03306.html

      “We cannot conceive of a global external factor that could cause, during this time, parallel evolution of amino acid compositions of proteins in 15 diverse taxa that represent all three domains of life and span a wide range of lifestyles and environments. Thus, currently, the most plausible hypothesis is that we are observing a universal, intrinsic trend that emerged before the last universal common ancestor of all extant organisms.”

      The link between metabolism and cell type differentiation emerged before the last universal common ancestor of any organisms of like kind that God created.

    • jennylynn

      You will meet God on your death day and then your mouth will be shut.

      Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; Romans 3:19

      • Alexander Wright

        Won’t it be a surprise when we all meet the Flying Spaghetti Monster, then?

        I’ve yet to meet a religion that can answer the question: “Why is your religion correct and all the others wrong?” with anything other than a variant of “Because it is”.

        • The Last Trump

          You have now. Hope you check it out. 🙂

          • Alexander Wright

            Umm, where? You certainly haven’t. From what I understand, your arguments are:
            I’ve met God, and he told me his was the one true religion.

            Well, I’m sorry, but there are plenty of other religions that say the same thing about their gods.

          • The Last Trump

            I’m starting to see how you evolutionists got duped so easily. You don’t hear so good. “I’ve met God”? Hmmm…that’s funny. Pretty sure I spoke at length about research and actual evidence. Even advised you to CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF. You guys not so much into all that technical stuff, huh? Understandable. It can be hard to grasp. Better just stick with MAGIC. Requires no proof whatsoever.

  • Nick Wride

    Young Earth Creationists like Ham are hopelessly, painfully ignorant. Anyone who believes any of the creation mythologies of any religion is borderline psychotic.

    • Demopublicrat

      Evolutionists like Nye are hopelessly, painfully ignorant. Anyone who believes any of the evolutionism mythologies religion is borderline psychotic.

      • BahlSanchin

        Except that there is actual quantifiable and observable evidence to support Nye’s science, while there is nothing but a book of over-edited bronze age stories to support Ham’s beliefs.

        • Demopublicrat

          If I had even a penny for every time some idiot told me there was “actual quantifiable and observable evidence” and then couldn’t produce any, I’d make Bill Gates look like a pauper.

          • Nick Wride

            And where is your evidence that creationism is real, Sinbad?

          • Demopublicrat

            Is that being taught in government schools as fact at taxpayer expense?

          • BahlSanchin

            Instead, you’re just a making your look like an ignoramus.

          • Demopublicrat

            Another personal religious belief of yours?

        • bigpawn01

          lmao truth!!! he thinks he knows every thing from reading one book that is work of fiction from 2000 years ago that has been edited and rewritten to fit the needs to those who pushed it on the poor and stupid for the purpose of control.

          • Nick Wride

            Religion is all about control.

        • Nick Wride

          Religion and creationism require faith, not fact. Ham is either a true believer that the Earth is very young or he’s one hell of a con man. Ham got a lot of fools to finance his creation museum, which one of his displays shows early humans, with a dinosaur, which has a saddle on it. You really need to have a lot of faith to believe that bullsnit.

      • Nick Wride

        Creationism Lunacy has no basis in fact. There are many creation stories, all through the history of Man and his religions. Thousands of years before Judaism and the Old Testament was written and that religions God of Creation was invented by MEN, Mankind has worshipped gods. They’ve had there own gods, prophets, seers, medicine men, holy men, their own visions of an afterlife and their own creation mythologies. The god of the OT is just one of the latest. And don’t get me started on the Jesus Mythology.

        • Demopublicrat

          Once again, attacking another point of view DOES NOT prove your religion. Don’t get me started on the Piltdown mythology.

    • bigpawn01

      absolutely correct nick i wish this guy (ken ham) would get struck by lighting or hit by a car or any thing that would put him out of the game before he inflicts any farther harm on man kind.

      • Nick Wride

        There are a lot more than just Ham, Pawn. They will be really dangerous if enough of them get any real power.

        • bigpawn01

          true

  • Jose

    This Bill nye guy is a joke. I saw the debate and to be completely fair Ham did a vary poor job of defending the creationist point of view and I think bill took the clear victory. However his reasoning and argument throughout the debate was irational and pointless saying “creationist restrain scientific reason” and insinuating that Christian scientists can’t make discoveries! What a joke! And then from there all he did was complain about the bible and the things he didn’t like and how bad Christians were (as if that’s scientific reason to support evolution) all people like him and cristopher hitches (and many other aeitheists debaters) do is just that, whine about the bible and try to discredit it by bringing up all the bad “Christian” men of the world, when in reality all they’re doing is proving once again that the bible is the truth. It states there in many verses that MANY wolves in sheep clothing will come and say they’re preaching the “truth” and deceive MANY and all for their personal gain. If you want a good debate where creation is defended properly, watch the Frank Turek V Christopher Hutchins debate

    • Thomas Baldwin

      I think Ham did an excellent job. It’s not his fault the creationist case can be undone by 3 hours debate and literal mountains of evidence (I’m talking about he limestone the fake museum actually sits on).

  • The Last Trump

    Order out of chaos. Reproduction of all things. Male and female. All completely by accident and without purpose. Riiiiiiiight. “Science”. The evolution argument has turned out to be just another veiled attempt to cast off God. I get a kick out of these guys! Nobody needs to “prove” God exists. God has taken care of that for us. Sure doesn’t need our help! Creation itself testifies of our Creator. Just the discoveries in a strand of DNA should have ended all debate a long time ago: “DNA is an information code. The overwhelming conclusion is that information does not and cannot arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. Intelligence is a necessity in the origin of any informational code, including the genetic code, no matter how much time is given.” (Lane Lester, Ph.D. Genetics, The Natural Limits to Biological Change, 1989.) Scientists across the globe are confirming that the data they are finding indicates that there is nothing random or “evolved” about the universe. It’s actually shaken some of
    them up to discover just how “fine-tuned” our universe is. But it should come to no surprise that a hedonistic and self-indulgent society would want to believe that in the beginning there was nothing. But, then IT exploded!? And from NOTHING came EVERYTHING! And somehow, via mysterious and scientifically unduplicated processes with fanciful names like “natural selection” (a.k.a. “magic”) both males and females were formed. And, wouldn’t you know, there just happened to be a rich variety of food sources to go around to sustain everything. And all of this happened completely by accident. Yikes! This is what is passing as science today? All of the previous generations of mankind knew better than that. This is the only generation so consumed by pride and arrogance as to dare to declare that there is NO God whatsoever, willfully denying the overwhelming scientific evidence of deliberate and intricate design we discover everywhere we look. Any rational human being just has to stop for a second and really take an honest look around. Flip open a medical book or go online and see the absolute marvel that is the human body. Flip through the different systems of our bodies. And then try to “fit” evolution into what you are actually seeing. Little harder to buy that crap when you are face to face with the evidence. Circulatory system, nervous system, skeletal system, muscular system, digestive system, endocrine system, immune system, urinary system, reproductive system, respiratory system. Ridiculous integration and complexity in design! But hey, if you’re not one for evidence and prefer faith, by all means stick with evolution. Myself, I don’t have enough faith to believe in such ridiculous nonsense that flies in the face of overwhelming evidence and reason. “Science!” That’s too funny!Don’t like the idea of God? Guess you’re stuck with aliens then. Cause there’s no getting around the fact that we have been “designed”. Bill Nye the blind guy! Bill! Bill! Bill!….love that song! 😉 http://www.harvard-wm.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Eleven-Systems-Run-Your-Body.jpg

    • BahlSanchin

      Your lack of understanding of basic scientific principles and delusional paranoia are duly noted.

      • The Last Trump

        Yes, you’ve got me there! My “lack of understanding of basic scientific principals” certainly has kept me from understanding how NOTHING “CREATED” EVERYTHING! Please, you’re embarrassing yourself. “Basic scientific principals”. What fantasy.

        • bigpawn01

          the reason you dont understand is because you are to damn arrogant to admit you don’t know. you think you know every thing then dis regard every thing that contradicts your beliefs just because scientific fact dont make sense to you. you are try to sound smart but all you have done is reveal your total ignorance and rejection of knowledge. you some how feel you are more qualified to tell people what could or could not have happened because reality defies what seems possible to you. you dont have the education to understand what you are talking about but if you can find some one who can break down basic high school literature down to first or second grade level you may understand try to get the books ”
          The Fallacy of Fine-Tuning: Why the Universe Is Not Designed for Us”
          by Victor J. Stenger
          and
          The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution
          by Richard Dawkins
          and lastly
          A Universe from Nothing: Why There Is Something Rather than Nothing
          by Lawrence M. Krauss
          these books are pretty cheap and widely available and will answer some of your concerns if you can find a translator who will read them and explain what is being said to make up for your lack of education and basic scientific understanding. good day sir and do please try to get an education before you attempt to dis credit those with more education and qualification to comment on any given area of science. you make your self look bad when you do that.

          • The Last Trump

            I would love to read those volumes as I’m an avid researcher but I now only read non-fiction. I also never visit the “magic” section of any bookstores or libraries. Too busy reading actual science these days. And I really don’t think I look very bad at all next to a bunch of loons who have honestly convinced themselves that NOTHING created EVERYTHING! And with great complexity and purpose! I know you mean well, but hey, good luck with that!……yikes.

          • Alexander Wright

            So what you are saying is that you don’t want to critically examine your beliefs in fear that you may find a contradiction.

          • The Last Trump

            Already have. Used to be an outspoken advocate against Christianity and the Bible. Amazing what research and an open mind can do. Also once “believed” in evolution. But after doing exactly what you mentioned and critically examining that belief, I certainly found contradiction. So I did what any mature open minded researcher should always do. Followed the evidence no matter where it leads. That’s a little difficult to do if you deny the existence of a Creator from the very start. Not very scientific, is it? Once you allow for this possibility you will be amazed at the body of evidence that supports it. But a personal relationship with God in the here and now is the clincher. There simply is no higher evidence. And eliminates all traces of doubt.

          • Alexander Wright

            Well, I think you are incorrect, but at least you have thought about it, rather than just going by what your parents believe.
            Why do you need to “believe” in evolution? Either you accept the logical reasoning and evidence, or you don’t. Or is that what you mean by the quotes?
            I don’t think science denies the existence of a creator, just that there is no proof to accepted scientific standards of one. If such proof is found, I’m sure science will incorporate it into the generally accepted body of knowledge.
            I personally have not found any such contradiction of which you speak.

          • The Last Trump

            The concept of a Creator is so far outside of the box, that’s it’s simply unthinkable. Not even allowed to be part of the equation with most “scientists” regardless of where the evidence leads. You should be very aware of this bias. If you think “scientists” are going to reveal evidence of a Creator you are sadly mistaken. Now I’ve come across tonnes of overwhelming evidence of design, but here’s just a few links that might interest any objective researcher seeking the truth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClarWNaCEVM (90 min “The Privileged Planet” – Findings confirm the unexpected uniqueness of the Earth, which against all odds defies the vast number of variables necessary for life to exist in an extremely harsh and unforgiving universe. Perhaps even more shocking is the startling realization that we appear to be optimally positioned in our galaxy for scientific discovery. Incredible evidence exists that the precision in variables like the size, distance, and orbit of our moon were designed to propagate scientific discovery. (e.g. Incredible leaps in science occurred thanks to the precise design of an eclipse…like we were being helped along…) http://vimeo.com/20197160 (60 min “The Case for a Creator” – A former evolutionary atheist unexpectedly discovers God through modern scientific discoveries. And he is not alone. More and more, scientists confronted with startling, cutting-edge evidence from many areas of research, no longer believe the universe just ‘happened’ or that life arose by mere chance. Behind a universe of staggering complexity, they are seeing clear signs of a Master Designer. Research on our planet, the universe, “not-so-simple” cells and DNA presented. ) Side Note: It’s refreshing to hear honest researchers simply report on the data and candidly admit where the evidence appears to lead. But this honesty comes at a terrible price. You would think that the scientific arena would promote objectivity and serious consideration of all ideas. But that’s not what we find. In fact, it’s just the opposite. It is the goal of every researcher to get published. But in academia, peer review is used to determine an academic paper’s suitability for publication. And under this flawed system, the acceptance of a new find trumps its actual validity: “We portray peer review to the public as a quasi-sacred process that helps to make science our most objective truth teller. But we know that the system of peer review is biased, unjust, unaccountable, incomplete, easily fixed, often insulting, usually ignorant, occasionally foolish, and frequently wrong.” (Richard Horton, editor of the British medical journal The Lancet).

            “The interposition of editors and reviewers between authors and readers may enable the intermediators to act as gatekeepers. Some sociologists of science argue that peer review makes the ability to publish susceptible to control by elites and to personal jealousy.The peer review process may suppress dissent against “mainstream” theories. Reviewers tend to be especially critical of conclusions that contradict their own views, and lenient towards those that match them. At the same time, established scientists are more likely than others to be sought out as referees, particularly by high-prestige journals/publishers. As a result, ideas that harmonize with the established experts’ are more likely to see print and to appear in premier journals than are iconoclastic or revolutionary ones.” (Wikipedia, “Peer Review,” various sources, references 41-48.)

            Under such restrictions, as you would expect, researchers are forced to go along if they want to get along. Otherwise their careers are over before they’ve even begun. And it is within this environment that for some bizarre reason intelligent design has been absolutely barred from all discussion.

            Guillermo Gonzalez is one of the astrobiologists who co-wrote the book, “The Privileged Planet,” and is interviewed in the above documentaries. He was an assistant professor in the department of physics and astronomy at Iowa State University. When I checked into his background a little deeper I was disappointed to learn (but certainly not surprised) that after publishing his views in the book that he co-authored, his tenure was subsequently denied by the university when it came due. “Academic tenure is primarily intended to guarantee the right to academic freedom: it protects teachers and researchers when they dissent from prevailing opinion, openly disagree with authorities of any sort, or spend time on unfashionable topics. Thus academic tenure is similar to the lifetime tenure that protects some judges from external pressure. Without job security, the scholarly community as a whole may experience pressure to favor noncontroversial lines of academic inquiry. The intent of tenure is to allow original ideas to be more likely to arise, by giving scholars the intellectual autonomy to investigate the problems and solutions as they see fit, and to report their honest conclusions.” (Wikipedia). After many appeals he has since moved on and currently resides at Ball State University in Indiana as an assistant professor in the department of physics and astronomy.

            Two years prior to his consideration for tenure, approximately 130 members of the faculty of Iowa State University signed a statement opposing “all attempts to represent Intelligent Design as a scientific endeavor.” Similar statements were issued by faculty at the University of Northern Iowa and at the University of Iowa. A total of approximately 400 professors signed the three petitions. Here are a few of the statements made:

            “Intelligent Design has become a significant issue in science education, and it has now established a presence, even if minimal, at Iowa State University. Accordingly, if you are concerned about the negative impact of Intelligent Design on the integrity of science and on our university, please consider signing the “Statement on Intelligent Design by Iowa State University Faculty” below. We, therefore, urge all faculty members to uphold the integrity of our university of “science and technology,” convey to students and the general public the importance of methodological naturalism in science, and reject efforts to portray Intelligent Design as science.”

            Wow. Does that sound like objective scientists to anybody? Banding together to pre-emptively strike down any and all theory of intelligent design, regardless of evidence. A Creator is just too unthinkable for these “scientists” regardless of where the evidence leads. Even the TV show, Ancient Aliens, is more objective than this bunch and regularly exposes the ridiculously flawed version of history we are required to believe. They, too, however, have an unthinkable attitude toward God, and so attribute our creation and assistance to aliens. The responsibility for the overwhelming evidence for our design has to belong to someone, right?

            How very strange that any honest research that leads to logical conclusions pointing to intelligent design should be such an affront to the establishment, and so, be discredited straightaway. Once upon a time we formed theories based on evidence. Today we force the “evidence” to fit the theory and discard what doesn’t fit. This inexcusable bias and intolerance to truth is, alas, the reality of the “science” of today. Shameful. We really have to do our own homework and fully utilize the Internet. Mainstream channels are unreliable and you simply won’t find the truth on T.V. Hats off to the folks who are risking everything by resisting these academic bullies, sacrificing promotions and careers to reach us with the facts. We can make up our own minds from there.

          • Alexander Wright

            I’m afraid you are mixing correlation with causation.

            On another point: Say you are right, and there is a god. What makes you so sure that it is the Christian god, and not say, the Hindu gods, or any other of the many religions? I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, but I have not found a religion that can answer the question of “Why is your religion the one true religion?” with any sort of evidence other than “I met God.” or some other unprovable statement. If I am to believe (and I greatly doubt I ever will) why should I believe your religion over any other?

          • The Last Trump

            Not MY religion. THE religion. I had to discover that too. They couldn’t all be right, particularly when they contradict each other. And I discovered only one that was supported by scientific, historical, archaeological, and prophetical evidence and which also happened to explain all the rest. Everything that book ever said would happen HAS happened and IS happening now. I have watched in amazement as events have transpired that I knew beforehand would transpire based on ancient passages of the Bible. When you start to investigate this marvel of literature you discover that it consists of 66 books that were penned by 40 different authors in three different languages and from various walks of life across a period of thousands of years. It is so unique that THERE IS NOT ANOTHER BOOK LIKE IT ON EARTH. This was a deliberate and gradual design whereby God revealed Himself to mankind
            over time. None of these individual authors claimed any of the credit for the messages they were given and most didn’t even want the job. Many, like the prophet Daniel, didn’t even have a clue what they were writing about and were
            told not to concern themselves with the visions that confused and disturbed them because they concerned a generation in the distant future who would understand (restored Jewish state, atomic warfare, satellite technology, holocausts). And things start to get really disconcerting when, despite having been written by so many
            different authors who have been separated by geography and time, you discover an integrated design of unmistakable uniformity throughout, maintaining its cohesion and bringing into focus a clearer overall picture of future events which
            have continued to come to pass with regularity.

            In the Bible, and ONLY the Bible, God has dared to tell us with precision the past, present and future, particularly regarding the Jewish people, and He did so, He tells us, so that we would recognize His divine authorship. If there
            truly is a God then obviously the onus is on Him to provide the means to “know” Him. The already observed historical accuracy of very detailed events previously foretold, reveals that the Author of the Bible exists outside of our time domain. This should get our attention. In short, He has told us history in advance. For example, God promised to remove the Jews from their land if (when) they rejected Him after receiving His blessings and scatter them among the
            nations. And He promised to return them to their land “in the last days”. Armageddon takes place when the Jews are back in the land of Israel, surrounded and outnumbered by their neighbors who are committed to their destruction. This happens during a period of world-wide godlessness rality and anarchy, and financial collapse. Let’s see now, Israel back as a nation after over 2000 years…check. urrounded by enemies committed to her destruction…check. Nations of the world pressuring Israel to give up her land for peace…check. Status of Jerusalem an unmovable obstacle to peace…check. Looming financial collapse…check. World-wide godlessness and sexual anarchy…check and check. World full of folks with blinders on tightly, willfully ignorant to the realities around them as they engage in sinful rebellion…check. What a generation of depravity we’ve become. All over the world Christianity is under attack and being stamped out of existence. Churches are destroyed, crosses and monuments are torn down, Bibles are banned and Christians killed or imprisoned. War has been declared on Jesus Christ world-wide. It’s absolutely surreal to have witnessed this transformation in the western world, once so richly blessed by the God we honoured. Like something out of a movie! And yet, absolutely predicted with unmistakeable clarity as the final generation that would see the return of Christ. Remember “thy kingdom come”? When He comes it’s not to a warm reception and a welcoming committee. The world is hostile to God and to each other, and so He comes to BATTLE, not joyous reunion. Does that sound about right for what we see playing out before us? I guess we’ll see. Jesus alluded to our situation when He asked, “when the Son of Man cometh, will He find faith upon the Earth?” The answer He seems to be hinting at, sadly, seems to be “no”. And speaking of Jesus, no “man” in the history of the world has had such an impact on humanity. Consider
            the staggering repercussions of just the mere three and a half year ministry of
            Christ that revolutionized Western society. It is a matter of historical
            record that it was Christian people in Christian nations who abolished
            slavery, established laws protecting individual rights, elevated the status of
            women, protected the rights of children, established unprecedented worldwide humanitarian
            organizations like The Red Cross and The Salvation Army, and inspired some of
            the greatest works of art, architecture, music, and literature the world has
            ever seen. If Jesus was not who He claimed to be than how do we account for
            this? Just a three and a half year ministry and He never wrote a single thing! And yet some “scholars” would like you to believe He never even existed. Riiight.

            Take a look at the Shroud of Turin. Over the years I’ve keep my eye on the research done on this extraordinary object. It is, in fact, the
            single most studied artifact in human history. After 35 years of extensive scientific study researchers to this day cannot explain how the image was formed on this ancient burial cloth. They can, however, tell us what it is not. It is NOT a painting. The cloth has traces of pollen from plants native to Jerusalem and is
            covered in blood stains from a flogged and crucified Jewish man bearing wounds matching
            exactly with the gospel accounts of the wounds inflicted on Christ. Astoundingly, the mysterious image on the cloth turns out to be a photographic negative (the very first negative, long before the advent of photography) somehow produced by an unknown light source, from the inside, and appearing only on the smallest microscopic fibers of the cloth. No such shroud exists for Buddha, Mohammad, the Dali Lama or any other religious charismatic. Jesus
            claimed to have been resurrected and the apostles claimed to have been eyewitnesses
            of his resurrection. The birth and spread of Christianity were founded on His resurrection. Here we have a veritable “picture” of The Resurrection on display for the world to see. If this burial cloth with a scientifically unexplainable image bearing a beaten, flogged, and crucified man is not evidence of The Resurrection than what do you think it is?

            Remarkably, a single attempt at carbon dating dated the shroud to around the 1300’s, so, of course, that ended all debate for the skeptics, despite still having absolutely no idea how they could have produced such an image at that time. Thus, the controversy rages on. Any scientist will ell you that when you have an overwhelming body of scientific data telling you one thing, and only one result calling into question all the rest, it’s not the overwhelmingly consistent body of data that you throw out, it’s the one anomaly! Yet, this is the kind of strange behaviour we regularly find from “objective scientists” regarding Christianity. It is widely believed (by scientists, not religious fanatics) that medieval
            patches applied to the damaged shroud are to be blamed for the dating discrepancy.

            For those who choose to remain sceptical, what do they tell themselves? That The Shroud is just somehow the greatest forgery of all time, created several hundred years ago yet somehow designed to fool future scientific disciplines that had not even been invented yet? Seriously?

            Incidentally, some of the members of the scientific research team have since become Christians and gone on the record publicly with their personal belief that this remarkable cloth is genuine evidence of The Resurrection.
            These people are scientists, not religious nuts. They actually handled and studied The Shroud and have concluded that based on the scientific data it might be in their best interests to follow the teachings of someone who claimed to have been resurrected 2000 years ago, while the uninformed and the ignorant today are busy debating endlessly about whether or not He even existed. As usual, I’m going to have to side with the scientists.

          • Alexander Wright

            So, the sum of your proof for the existence of your god, and I say that as shorthand for the god in which you believe, and billions of others do not, is the Turin Shroud?

            The interesting thing about science, is that it does incorporate unknowns. For example, it is unknown how the image you claim to be there has been made. The carbon dating, however, is very clear. There is no contradiction here. It is not a piece of material from 2000ish years ago. It has an image on it, of unknown origin.

            Since scientists have not been allowed to perform any further tests, it is not very surprising that there is very little scientific evidence as to it’s origins.

            Out of curiosity, is your god the same god the Muslims worship? Both religions share documents, artifacts and indeed a prophet, I believe.

          • The Last Trump

            The sum of my proof? Hardly. The evidence is overwhelming. This is just one miniscule grain of sand of the mountain of proof that you choose not to bother to seek. The image “I claim” to be there?! What are you, blind? Funny how that happens to you guys when confronted with actual evidence. Selective blindness.

            Go ahead, professor. Explain to me how the image was created. Go on, this should be easy, right? It was made in the 1300’s. So how’d they do it? Should be no great mystery here, right? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Just ignore it. And hope it goes away. Doesn’t fit your “religion” so it doesn’t count, right?

            Scientists have not been able to perform further tests? Nice try. “Modern science has completed hundreds of thousands of hours of detailed study and intense research on the Shroud. It is, in fact, the single most studied artifact in human history.” Try again. The reason we can’t understand how it was created sure as hell isn’t because of inaccessibility. But go ahead. Ignore actual evidence in favour of fantasy. Forget the Shroud and forget that Moses, a simple shepherd was able to guess the correct sequence of events of the the Big Bang that Einstein and his contemporaries could not. And forget that Bible prophecy predicted with absolute accuracy that Israel would be reborn as a nation, be surrounded by neighbours committed to her destruction, and that Jerusalem would be an unmovable obstacle to peace, and all during a time of godlessness, financial collapse and sexual anarchy. Yeah, quite the book of fables! Nothing to see here, folks. Back to sleep…. Everything was created by MAGIC!

          • truthnothate

            You are confusing religion and the existence of a God, furthermore you are basing your conclusions of the existence of such God or the creation of the Universe in a very nice novel that tells the symbolic story of some guys with the complete creation of the Universe as it stands in front of your eyes.
            and dude, you are not a mature minded researcher you are the equivalent of a farmer in the middle of Siberia in the year 1350…empirical and wrong at most.
            Is there a creator? yep but may not be a white guy with a white robe or a fat guy sitting in lotus position, or a long bearded man with holes in his hands form crucifixion. that is your problem buddy, you are confusing science, religion and faith and that is a perfect formula for ignorance.

          • bigpawn01

            your effort at self education has failed. but at lest you tried. next time try looking at all the evidence not just the evidence that supports your opinions.

          • The Last Trump

            Ditto.

          • truthnothate

            nah you are not an avid researcher you are just a fast typing clown…who has no idea of the Universe creation from the beginning to the present, now take into account that I don’t know neither but I am definitely 1 mile ahead of you on understanding it and I can at least see the next sign whereas you are still in the middle ages on this.

        • BahlSanchin

          Where did you get your PhD and in which of the hard sciences is it?

          BTW, you believe that “NOTHING” created God, and yet there it is. You’re a hypocrite as well as a fool.

          • The Last Trump

            PhD? Are you serious? Get your head out of your rear end and try taking a look around! PhD! Who needs a PhD in order NOT to believe in magic! You guys are too much! Hey genius, do space shuttles create themselves? How about nuclear power plants? Air craft carriers? Exactly. Did you need a PhD to figure that out? Boy, you’re in worse shape than I thought!

            Clear design is clear design. Only a complete moron would look at something so incredibly complex and multifaceted, with their intricate systems engineered with purpose and great planning and come up with, “they created themselves!”. What sheer stupidity. And then you have the gall to ridicule others for recognizing that the design had a Designer! How embarrassing. I’m sorry but I’m just not stupid enough to be an atheist evolutionist. I tried, I really did. The evidence just kept getting in the way. 🙁

            And by the way, we know our universe had a beginning and has meaning and purpose. What caused it to come into being? What you fantasy lovers call “magic” we know as God. Everything had to start somewhere, right? It didn’t come from nothing. Duh. So obviously it came from Him. Where’d He come from? Who knows. We’ll know when He tells us.

          • BahlSanchin

            So in other words, you admit that you know nothing about how biology actually works. Thanks for confirming it.

          • The Last Trump

            Wow. Are we seriously still talking about this? And, “I” know nothing about how biology works!? Hmmm…that’s funny, out of the two of us I actually supplied conclusions from scientists who study biology. You just babbled on about your religion. Interesting how you draw you’re conclusions, though. Explains a lot. Disregard actual evidence and continue with your fable. “DNA is an information code. The overwhelming conclusion is that information does not and cannot arise spontaneously by mechanistic processes. Intelligence is a necessity in the origin of any informational code, including the genetic code, no matter how much time is given.” (Lane Lester, Ph.D. Genetics, The Natural Limits to Biological Change, 1989.) Don’t worry about facts, though. You guys seldom do. Carry on with your religion. I’ve got better things to do.

          • BahlSanchin

            Discovery.org? LOL. the religious organization posing as actual science? That’s your source? Truly pathetic.

          • The Last Trump

            Your response. LOL. Void of any evidence of your religion and typical of believers in magic. Avoid all evidence that opposes your “beliefs” at all costs from everyone who has taken the time to present any. Truly pathetic. 😉

          • BahlSanchin

            “Beliver in magic?” Really? Wow, talk about projection. The book of fairy tales that you follow and your substitution for basic science is nothing but “magic.”

            But please, do go on posting rubbish from half-baked websites like discovery.org for the rest of us to laugh at.

            I’ll still with actual science, thank you.

          • The Last Trump

            “I’ll still with”? See, that’s you’re problem right there. No attention to detail. Just have to take your time and check all the facts. You’ll learn. Eventually.

          • truthnothate

            I think you are the one that believes in what you call magic…lmao

        • truthnothate

          LOL..really? haha you have a problem with your analysis here buddy and Bahl is right all the way to the logical failures on your claims.

    • bigpawn01

      “Nobody needs to “prove” God exists. God has taken care of that for us.”
      false were that true we all would be christians and this would not even be a topic. we have rejected your bronze age myths just as you have rejected fact based science. and it is painful to watch you try to explain science and it is clear you do not have a clue as to what you are talking about i certainly hope you are in no way in charge of any childrens education because if you are they are gonna come up very short at the collage academic level. if you have children i certainly hope for their own sake they just nodded when you spoke then went to school and found what is really going on. teaching children religion should be properly labeled child abuse. and it should be against the law to distort factual actual observable science in the manner you have here you have failed to grasp even the basics of even the most fundamental understandings of science. reality does not have to make sense for it to be reality and some one with your obvious short comings academically has probably found many things that dont make sense. so your self a favor mr trump never assume you know more than people who have an education and have spent years getting an education in their field of study.

      • The Last Trump

        Gee, you make a lot of assumptions don’t you? For starters, I once believed in your fairy tale of evolution because the school system conditioned me to. Until, despite my university education, I realized I essentially was being forced to believe in “magic”. No proof. No evidence. Only B.S. And lots of it. Fancy names and technical terms about nothing. Opinion, conjecture, and guesswork. Absolutely nothing proven or scientifically duplicated. Where there was evidence, however, and in great abundance, was in design. Crystal freakin’ clear. Only a moron could possibly miss it. And I’m embarrassed to admit that I was once such a moron. Because I listened to what everybody else was telling me was true instead of going by what I could clearly see right in front of my own face. And twenty years of scientific research has only confirmed this for me, and millions of others. Look up the law of irreducible complexity and discover for yourself where the evidence leads. Research the “not-so-simple cell” or DNA and get back to me. Absolutely amazing how blind you “believers” in evolution have become despite the mountains of evidence against you. You can stick with your “religion” if you like. I’ll follow the science no matter where it leads.

        • bigpawn01

          see that is the thing nothing has been found to support creation theory. and your inability to acknowledge that and ignore it does much to discredit your educators. you schooling has done you no good and you are none the better for it. you say you will follow the science where ever it leads yet you have failed to do so. no creditable or respectable scientist buys the creation idea because like i said there is no evidence to support it.

          • The Last Trump

            Your ignorance of the evidence hardly indicates that there isn’t any. Instead of commenting regularly with absolutely no evidence of anything yourself, maybe switch on over to some different websites and do a little research yourself. I’ve done mine. Or even just address the points I’ve indicated above. Love how you guys skip over anything that contradicts your “religion” and just continue to argue about generalizations and grasp at straws. Well, you have it. I’ll stick with the evidence. And the growing body of researchers who reject evolution as “science”.

          • bigpawn01

            but there is no “growing body of researchers who reject evolution as “science”.” you are the one with out evidence and claim others dont have it because you do not accept what normal people call evidence.

          • The Last Trump

            See above post and attached material. Have to do your own research from there. I can’t do it all for you! Good luck. 😉

          • bigpawn01

            sorry bud but that is no research it is propaganda created to support you delusions.

          • The Last Trump

            Ahh, you evolutionists! Declare actual science “propaganda” when it exposes your religion. Well, when it comes to propaganda and delusion, I guess you ought to know! 😉 Seriously though, MAGIC created everything? NOTHING created everything? Stuff just created ITSELF? Please! Talk about delusional.

          • bigpawn01

            e=mc2 study that, that pretty much sums up all your questions.

          • The Last Trump

            Typical. Try to hide behind what you don’t even understand. But energy being equal to mass times the speed of light squared doesn’t prove your point, Einstein! It does however, reflect that their is a Master Designer who put into effect laws to govern His universe. Many in the scientific community, like Newton (look him up. He’s kind of famous) were astonished to see that there even WERE laws that govern the universe and maintain a careful balance for us to even exist.
            Smart guys that they were, they realized that that doesn’t happen by chance. Somebody made it that way.
            Newton went on to say more about the Bible than anything else and studied it extensively until his death. But they don’t tell you that in today’s science books.

          • bigpawn01

            “Let me know when you get tired of being embarrassed.” be sure the only one embarrassed here is you and the though th at i am is only held by you and those with your same sickness. And you are some what delusional if you think as a fan of science i would not know who newton was. his inclination to religion was a common one held by many great minds back in the old days but there were also those who had their doubts. but could not say so for fear of being treated to the kindness of the church as Giordano Bruno. even if they did believe their belief were just that belief none of it actual evidence of a god. that is what i am saying if their were any actual evidence to support the existence of the christian god we all would be christians but there is none and you folks need to get out of the way and keep god in church where he belongs. no matter the result of our conversation it does not change the fact that atheist are the fastest growing minority in the world and eventually the religious will be removed from power and man kind will find how great we can be without the chains of religion.

          • The Last Trump

            It’s too bad you didn’t bother to check out any of the links I posted. Lots of great scientific evidence that points to a Creator. Not my opinion. Scientific fact. Why that bothers you guys so much is between you and God. I just follow the evidence.
            If there is a God (and there is) it sure as hell won’t matter what you think or I think. His will, will be done, regardless. And so it is. Exactly the way the Bible predicted it would be. You might want to check out the way the story ends. Let’s see, now. How’s God doing so far?

            Israel back as a nation after over 2000 years…check. Surrounded by enemies committed to her destruction…check. Nations of the world pressuring Israel to give up her land for peace…check. Status of Jerusalem an unmovable obstacle to peace…check. Looming financial collapse…check. World-wide war against Christianity…check. World-wide godlessness and sexual anarchy…check and check. World full of folks with blinders on tightly willfully ignorant to the realities around them as they engage in sinful rebellion…check.
            Ya, I guess you’re right. Nothing to see here. Back to sleep…

          • The Last Trump

            It’s too bad you didn’t bother to check out any of the links I posted. Lots of great scientific evidence that points to a Creator. Not my opinion. Scientific fact. Why that bothers you guys so much is between you and God. I just follow the evidence.
            If there is a God (and there is) it sure as hell won’t matter what you think or I think. His will, will be done, regardless. And so it is. Exactly the way the Bible predicted it would be. You might want to check out the way the story ends. Let’s see, now. How’s God doing so far?

            Israel back as a nation after over 2000 years…check. Surrounded by enemies committed to her destruction…check. Nations of the world pressuring Israel to give up her land for peace…check. Status of Jerusalem an unmovable obstacle to peace…check. Looming financial collapse…check. World-wide war against Christianity…check. World-wide godlessness and sexual anarchy…check and check. World full of folks with blinders on tightly willfully ignorant to the realities around them as they engage in sinful rebellion…check.
            Ya, I guess you’re right. Nothing to see here. Back to sleep…

          • The Last Trump

            It’s too bad you didn’t bother to check out any of the links I posted. Lots of great scientific evidence that points to a Creator. Not my opinion. Scientific fact. Why that bothers you guys so much is between you and God. I just follow the evidence.

            If there is a God (and there is) it sure as hell won’t matter what you think or I think. His will, will be done, regardless. And so it is. Exactly the way the Bible predicted it would be. You might want to check out the way the story ends. Let’s see, now. How’s God doing so far?

            Israel back as a nation after over 2000 years…check. Surrounded by enemies committed to her destruction…check. Nations of the world pressuring Israel to give up her land for peace…check. Status of Jerusalem an unmovable obstacle to peace…check. Looming financial collapse…check. World-wide war against Christianity…check. World-wide godlessness and sexual anarchy…check and check. World full of folks with blinders on tightly willfully ignorant to the realities around them as they engage in sinful rebellion…check.

            Ya, I guess you’re right. Nothing to see here. Back to sleep…

          • bigpawn01

            you totally fail at understanding how e=mc2 results in the universe we live in. even Einstein said considering the force of gravity it is quite possible to have a universe from a chaos of nothing or some thing like anyway you are no smarter than he.

          • The Last Trump

            Oh you mean the Einstein that thought the Bible was wrong about the universe having a beginning? That Einstein? The one who thought the universe always was and was a constant? Until Hubble proved with scientific measurement that the universe did indeed have a beginning? Oooops. Einstein and his contemporaries, representing the greatest scientific minds of the 20th century WRONG. Moses RIGHT. Good guess there, Moses! When will you guys ever learn. Moses didn’t guess. He had help.

          • bigpawn01

            e=mc2 come back when you fully understand what it means and how it would effect the universe.

    • Marie Adigwe

      You obviously don’t understand. Science doesn’t say that it’s all an accident because that can’t be proven. Nowhere in a science paper will you ever see a scientist state that it happened by accident. That is also why you don’t see God written anywhere in a science paper. It’s not because evolution and the Big Bang Theory are godless. The concept of a deity is simply faith based, and the idea that there is no god is also just another belief. There’s no evidence to support it. Some scientists believe that it all happened on accident, and others don’t. Einstein, for example, was not an atheist, although he wasn’t a Christian either. The point is, if you cared to read a science paper from a legitimate scientific journal, then you would see that neither are mentioned. In the journal, all you will find is the reasoning behind the experiment, how the experiment was conducted, the mathematics that support various theories, etc.

      • The Last Trump

        I understand all too well. And I read “real” scientific articles on a daily basis. The concept of a Master Designer is not at all faith based. It is based solely on scientific evidence. If you were to discover a space shuttle, with it’s heat shield for protection, electrical systems, seating, seat belts, wheels for landings, etc.etc. you really wouldn’t have to try very hard to come to the understanding that it was very clearly DESIGNED. It didn’t just happen. The world doesn’t work that way. Ever notice how, over time, things tend to break down and become disorganized? Like your desk, bedroom or locker. And then you have to decide to come along and organize things again and tidy up. THEY DON’T ORGANIZE THEMSELVES. An intelligence of some kind needs to come along and bring order out of the chaos. No accidents or random chance can account for the design in all things that is clearly perceptible to any who merely look. Sorry. All of the evidence SCREAMS Master Designer. Just research the cell. Mind boggling complexity. Like a modern computer with its own sophisticated language. SOMEBODY put that language there and built those miniature computerized “factories”. That’s what the science tells us. Some folks just aren’t listening. Check it out for yourself. I did. You simply can’t argue with the evidence. And as far as Einstein and his contemporaries are concerned, they believed the universe always was and had no beginning. Until Hubble came along and proved it did with scientific measurement. The greatest minds of the twentieth century were proved to be wrong and the Bible proved, once again, to be right. There was absolutely a beginning. In
        fact, all indicators point to a match with the order of events as listed in the
        book of Genesis. The Bible for thousands of years has told us that creation began
        suddenly when God proclaimed, “Let there be light.” Further, the Bible
        repeatedly states that God has “stretched
        out the heavens.” Interesting choice of words as it turns out. Scientists
        today are confirming that our universe indeed had a beginning, a sudden explosion of light followed by rapid expansion.
        Up until now, the order of events in the Genesis account of creation has made
        no sense whatsoever. Creation begins with light, yet God does not go on to
        create the Sun until the fourth “day”!?
        Well how about that. Just another amazing coincidence in a steady string of amazing coincidences for the skeptics though. Einstein and his contemporaries had it wrong, but Moses was able to guess the order of events correctly thousands of years ago? Yeah, ok. Bible right, modern scientists wrong, once again. You give that book a chance and the science is always there to back it up.

  • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

    Excerpt: “While Bill Nye claims the evidence for molecules-to-man evolution is undeniably true…”

    The only truth in the context of a molecules-to-man perspective is that ecological variation in nutrient availability leads to RNA-mediated cell type differentiation via amino acid substitutions. The amino acid substitutions differentiate all cell types of all individuals of all species from microbes to man.

    The conserved molecular mechanisms of RNA-mediated cell type differentiation link what is currently known about biophysical constraints and the chemistry of protein folding, which links nutrient-dependent protein biosynthesis and degradation to the de novo creation of cell types and increasing organismal complexity manifested in morphological and behavioral diversity of species that ecologically adapt.

    Dobzhansky (1973) noted that “…the so-called alpha chains of hemoglobin have identical sequences of amino acids in man and the chimpanzee, but they differ in a single amino acid (out of 141) in the gorilla.” If he were not still dead, Dobzhansky would refute theories about evolution with experimental evidence of nutrient-dependent amino acid substitutions that link differences the diet of different species to differences in their morphology and differences in their behavior via the physiology of nutrient-dependent reproduction.

    If Bill Nye, or anyone else, continues to claim that anything outside the context of physics, chemistry, and molecular biology of God’s Creation via nutrient-dependent reproduction is true, he should support his ridiculous assertions with experimental evidence of how mutations, which perturb protein folding, or natural selection for anything except food can lead from any differentiated cell type in any individual of any species to a differentiated cell type in another species.

    Meanwhile, most serious scientists know that mutations lead to diseases and disorders, not to the evolution of anything. That’s why a study of 10,000 patients at Vanderbilt linked genetic networks and metabolic networks via enzymes and amino acid substitutions to the ability to metabolize specific drugs. (Links to the ability to metabolize specific foods will almost undoubtedly follow.)

    See: Clinically Actionable Genotypes Among 10,000 Patients With Preemptive Pharmacogenomic Testing http://www.nature.com/clpt/journal/v95/n4/full/clpt2013229a.html

    What is currently known from pharmacogenomics links a gene, cell, tissue, organ, organ-system pathway via a neuroscientifically established link between sensory input and behavior. Marts and Resnick (2007) stress the importance of this pathway in the context of a systems biology approach to pharmacogenomics. I’m stressing the pathway as a means to stop evolutionary theorists from making any more unsupported claims.

  • http://www.blastthetrumpet.org Michael Swenson
    • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

      Pray also that people inform themselves.

      The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. — Ecclesiastes 1:9

      “[W]hat Haldane, Fisher, Sewell Wright, Hardy, Weinberg et al. did was invent…. The anglophone tradition was taught. I was taught, and so were my contemporaries, and so were the younger scientists. Evolution was defined as “changes in gene frequencies in natural populations.” The accumulation of genetic mutations was touted to be enough to change one species to another…. No, it wasn’t dishonesty. I think it was wish fulfillment and social momentum. Assumptions, made but not verified, were taught as fact.”
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzan-mazur/replace-the-modern-sythes_b_5284211.html

      Assumptions taught as fact are something new, and Bill Nye wants others to continue thinking that assumptions are facts. He wants a newly invented theory, which had to be defined before it seemed to make any sense at all, to be taught as if no one had since learned anything about biologically based cause and effect.

      For example: Experience-dependent de novo creation of receptors can be linked from light-induced amino acid substitutions to nutrient-induced RNA-mediated receptor-mediated amino acid substitutions in animals via quaternary and ternary
      switches. The complexity of these switches, which allow the entry of
      nutrients into cells, is linked directly to cell type differentiation in
      health and disease via the conserved molecular mechanisms manifested in the morphological and behavioral phenotypes of species from microbes to man.

      Except for pseudoscientists who cannot grasp the systems complexity
      of God’s Creation, the link from intelligent microbes to human intelligence is
      clear. It is nutrient-dependent thermodynamic cycles of protein
      biosynthesis and degradation, not mutations and evolution.

  • jennylynn

    Evolution is a religion, not science because you have to have faith that your an evolved blob. There is no observational evidence, therefore it is a belief system that has no place in public schools indoctrinating kids with lies. Seperation of church/religion and state.

    • Kyle Schlosser

      There *is* observable evidence. Do you know how to use Google? You should try using Google.

      • Demopublicrat

        Fail, there is none.

        • BahlSanchin

          Failure sounds like the main ingredient in your DNA.

          Oh right, you don’t believe in DNA. That’s just more of that godless “science” stuff.

          • Demopublicrat

            You are getting science and religion confused, the existence of DNA is science, the belief that it changed over billions of years is religion.

          • bigpawn01

            nothing about science is religious. a religion requires a god and science has not declared one. your attempt to put new definitions on words only works with people to stupid to know how wrong you are.

          • Demopublicrat

            re·li·gion, noun ri-ˈli-jən
            : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. – Merriam-Webster
            If nothing about science is religious, then evolution is not science. Calling people stupid doesn’t change that. Telling me I am wrong doesn’t prove your religion.

          • Alexander Wright

            Well, if you are going to quote definitions:

            science
            ˈsʌɪəns/
            noun
            the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
            No religion or belief required!

          • Demopublicrat

            “through observation and experiment” Adaptations have been observed, spciation the backbone of evolutionism? Never.

          • Alexander Wright

            “Adaptations have been observed, speciation the backbone of evolutionism?”

            Yes, indeed they have been observed.
            One of many, many places is described here:

            http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1123973.stm

          • Demopublicrat

            Seriously? Is that all they can come up with? So what, people from the northern US are different species from those who hunt alligators in the southern US? After all the cable channel has to use subtitles because northerners can’t understand what they’re saying. Get back to me when a chicken turns into an alligator.

          • bigpawn01

            once again it is not religion.

            religion

            a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

          • Demopublicrat

            “…a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe…” – evolution, check.

            “usually” “often” meaning not always, as in the case of evolution.
            Yup, religion.

          • bigpawn01

            look kid you can call it what ever you like but we adults know what words mean and know it dont apply to scientific theories or laws.

          • Demopublicrat

            You’re correct Mr. Bigpants, it does not apply to SCIENTIFIC theories or laws, evolution is a religion that is falsely called scientific fact, when it is in fact a religion, an un-observable, un-testable, un-provable religion.

          • bigpawn01

            once again buy a microscope and buy a book Richard Dawkins book “the greatest show on earth” he go into quite some detail on evolution and why it is a fact if you are only gonna subscribe to your own silly religious inclination you can never hope to be taken seriously by the rest of the world.

          • Demopublicrat

            *YAWN* been there done that, how do you think I KNOW evolution is a religion?

          • bigpawn01

            you think evolution is a religion because you want to think evolution is not superior to religion which it is because it is based on FACTS

          • Demopublicrat

            you think evolution is science because you want to think evolution is superior to religion which it isn’t because it is based on imaginary FACTS.

          • BahlSanchin

            Oh really? Where did you get your degree in biology? Please tell me what training you have that makes you smarter than about 99% of the planet’s professional biologists/zoologists/etc.

          • Demopublicrat

            Appeal to authority proves…. nothing.

          • BahlSanchin

            Says the clown who appeals to the authority of an ancient collection of middle eastern fables

          • Demopublicrat

            Says the moron who appeals to an exploding dot billions of years ago fairytales.

          • BahlSanchin

            Whatever. If you want to keep denying basic science in favor of ancient fairy tales, I’m not here to stop you. I just enjoying pointing and laughing at idiots like you.

          • Demopublicrat

            Basic science *pointing and laughing*, yet you idiots never seem to have any, just assumptions and religious belief while repeating the word “science” over and over.

          • BahlSanchin

            Just because you choose to call basic scientific principles a ‘religion” over and over again, doesn’t make it so. Keep deluding yourself.

          • Demopublicrat

            Just because you choose to call your religion “basic scientific principles” over and over again, doesn’t make it so. Keep deluding yourself.

          • BahlSanchin

            I’ve got over a hundred years, thousands of scientists, and tens of thousands of peer-reviewed research papers on my side. What have you got? A 2000 year old highly edited collection of Bronze Age fairly tales.

          • Demopublicrat

            You’ve got popular opinion in a religious belief, I don’t recall saying what I believe. You just keep on saying the word “science”, perhaps if you sprinkled it with pixie-dust it might come true.

          • BahlSanchin

            Deny the science of evolution all you want. It just reveals you for the buffoon that you are.

          • Demopublicrat

            There is nothing to deny.

          • The Last Trump

            Ha! Ha! Science! Good one. In the beginning there was nothing. Then, (wait for it…..) IT EXPLODED!? And MAGIC created everything! Ha! Ha! Man, that never gets old!
            Oh. You were serious? Soooo anyway……

          • BahlSanchin

            Thanks for proving that you aren’t even bright enough to know the difference between cosmology and biology, nor the difference between the Big Bang and Evolution. It’s so much easier when you nitwits do y work for me by discrediting yourselves.

          • The Last Trump

            You got the BASIC part right. Too bad it spirals off into never-never land after that. Opinion, conjecture, guesswork and fantasy. “Science.” Yeah, that’s not religion.

          • The Last Trump

            He actually means, “denying MODERN fairy tales in favor of reliable ancient manuscripts supported by proven facts.” He does this sometimes, please forgive him Demopublicrat. No attention to detail. It’s common with evolutionists. That, and pointing in mirrors.

          • BahlSanchin

            It would be adorable just how willfully ignorant and deluded you bronze-age fantasists are, if not for the fact that you attempt to shove your delusions into the nation’s science classes and media.

      • jennylynn

        Google cannot show an ape, a blob etc. Turning into a man!!!

        • Thomas Baldwin

          “I’m not a monkey” That’s not what it says.. did you read it. It sounds like you didn’t read it. – Louis C.K.

          Yo Jennylynn.. I recommend 5g of mushrooms in silent darkness. Then you might be able to wrap your mind around how infinite GOD might be, why it needed all these billions of years and the process of evolution to meticulously carve out millions of species on Earth. Take your magician “poof it just happened” imagining of GOD home and re-think some stuff. #thinkoutsidethebook

          • jennylynn

            According to your belief system you are an evolved monkey. Tht is what your evolution theory teaches, or are you not aware of this falacy? By the way eracing Go from your mind and denying His power in Creation, will not remove your accountability from the God you so want to resist. You will face Him, and you will now to Him in heaven or in hell.

            so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
            Philipians 2:10

          • Thomas Baldwin

            Wow, you’re super good at quoting that old book. Reminds me of those guys who hijacked them planes on 9/11. No seriously, take some mushrooms (Like the other John in Revelations CLEAR did). It must have been a real strong Amanita muscaria (more science i know, it hurts your brain).

            Lay in the green field of grass and look at the stars.
            Know we are not the center of the solar system
            Nor the center of galaxy
            Nor the center of the Universe
            Nor the center of God’s creation, but instead a process that connects us all. That’s more powerful to me than your ugly rapture.

          • jennylynn

            How do you describe te color blue to a blind person?

          • Thomas Baldwin

            You can’t, but 5 grams of dried mushrooms will let you hear what blue tastes, while god rains down gifts of love and compassion. Really opens up the third eye minus the rapture shart your stuck on . Serously, the original greek version of the bible. There are mushrooms all over the place. Buy the ticket, take the ride. Or wait till your dead and he’ll be like what where you waiting for.

          • jennylynn

            Exactly, you can’t. You can’t reason with blind animals either.
            Enjoy your shrooms. Been there done that.

          • Thomas Baldwin

            Likewise, been there down that. Enjoy your rapture and looking down on people. I like loving people more and looking deep into nature for answers about God.

          • Alexander Wright

            In common with pretty much all science deniers, you misunderstand evolution.
            Science does not say humans evolved from monkeys, it says monkeys, humans (and apes) evolved from a common ancestor. If you are going to argue against science, please at least get the science you are arguing against correct.

          • jennylynn

            The newest idea about humans is that they and apes evolved in Africa from some early common ancestor. A number of skulls and bone fragments have been found in Africa. These australopithecine skulls are supposed to be of animals who evolved from that common ancestor of human beings. What does that mean? Simply that paleontologist have discovered evidence against even the newest theory of human evolution! Once again the falible scientists have been presenting as “facts” have turned out to be little more than another misinterpretation! Yet even the discoverers of new fossils do not want to accept what it means! They have been “brought up” to believe the myth of human evolution and to accept the theories of mere falible men whose findings are always baffling them with change of their once thought theory. They use reconstructions of skulls with many missing pieces. One example is the picture if “afarensis” only the light brown colored bones were actually found, the blue part was was imagination of how the founders think he might have looked. There are many examples but the fact is science cannot support their findings.

        • BahlSanchin

          “an ape, a blob etc. Turning into a man!!!”

          Thanks for proving just how little you know about the science of evolution. Google also cannot show a wolf turning into a dog, yet we know that dogs are the modern day decedents of wolves.

          Try school. It may actually do you some good.

          • jennylynn

            Dogs and wolves are of the same kind. There is no new information. Dogs did not turn into cats. Maybe you should do your homework. Do you know the difference between micro and macro evolution? One requires a change of kind or species, the other is just a mutation.
            There for you have no observable evidence and neither do your scientists that you worship, because there is none!

          • BahlSanchin

            And yet, you worship an invisible man in the sky that has absolutely zero evidence in its favor. Meanwhile, everyone that actually has seen the fossil evidence and understand the mechanics of evolution understands exactly how small mutations eventually lead to completely different species, and yet, maintain at least 90% or more of the identical DNA structure as their remote ancestors.

          • jennylynn

            awe! The fossil evidence! A worldwide graveyard. Do you know what causes a bone to become fossilized? Lots of water in a quick force. Noah’s flood is the reason for your fossils, but ignorant scientist like to dismiss the flood because it represents judgement on humanity, and why would people acknowledge that? Then they would have to acknowledge God and oh no, the Bible, which would also tell them of a coming judgement, but this one with Fire.
            I can see how uncomfortable that would make the religion of science along with other atheists. Who wants to be humble and acknowledge that “You Are Not God?”

          • BahlSanchin

            Noah’s Flood? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

            I love how you knk that completely impossible and totally debunked bronze-age myths trump the tens of thousand of scientists from around the world over the past 150 years writing 100s of thousands of research papers.

            You childish adherence to fables that gave you comfort when you were too young to use reason and logic is simply adorable. Let me know when you want to grow up and join the rest of us in the adult world.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

          • jennylynn

            Have you ever read Isaiah? Are you familiar with the Dead Sea scroll Manuscript which is older than the scientist you worship.
            Isaiah 54:9-10
            For this is like the waters of Noah to Me (God) for I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so I have sworn that I would not be angry with you nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed, but My kindness shall not depart from you, nor shall My covenant of peace be removed says The Lord, who has mercy on you.

            You have to deny archeological history and it’s evidence.
            But that’s ok, you will meet God and know one day. Everyone will!! True grown ups are humble before The Lord and do not mock Him out Of ignorance.

        • bigpawn01

          if you can even comprehend what you read you should try richard dawkins book the greatest show on earth and you will see if you are looking for evidence of evolution you are not even asking for the correct evidence to prove it. let me ask you an evolutionary question if the internet puts the totality of human understanding at your finger tips why are there still idiots?

      • Demopublicrat

        Since you “know” evolution is true, you should be able to come up with some brilliant statement right off the top of your head, not resort to “duh, google…”

  • Demopublicrat

    Ham fumbled the ball big time on that debate, he should have done what Hovind always did, one topic at a time, period. Nye, obviously knowing he had nothing, used the shotgun approach, instead of dazzling with brilliance, he just buried Ham in BS.

    • Kyle Schlosser

      Since when are statements backed by evidence BS?

      • Demopublicrat

        They are not, but Nye was pretty short on evidence as evolutionism has none.

        • Demopublicrat

          More correctly:
          Q: Since when are statements backed by evidence BS?
          A: When the evidence is BS.

  • http://facebook.com singflatly

    “asserted that even if he ends up “going to Hell,” it still will not prove a young earth.”

    I don’t know what to make of this. He says he has a fear of death. And now this near- admittal that he has left the door open to the possibility of a literal Hell. Sounds like what I often suspect. That many so-called atheists do not so much have no faith in God as they are simply angry and rebelling at Him. Deep down, I suspect many who profess no faith in Lord Jesus and His Word are actually rebelling. Otherwise, why get so angry whenever He and His Word are mentioned? I do not believe in unicorns or fairies, but when I encounter someone who does I do not get all vigilant and angry.

    • bigpawn01

      you sir are a first class idiot there is no god to be angry at or rebel against.

  • jennylynn

    (Jesus said)
    “Let them alone; they are blind guides of the blind. And if a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
    Matthew 15:14

  • Carol Cantell Moorby

    Science is through the mind realm and totally Denys the spiritual realm. Science is always trying to deny the existence of a Heavenly Father , son and Holy Spirit. It’s an atheists viewpoint and not truly valid. Grant McMurtry a former professor of evolution became a Bible Christian and had to apologize to all his former students for teaching the error of evolution. He has a wonderful video called, ” Waters Cleaved” with all the true facts and has proved ” Creationism” and disproved evolution. It is loaded with actual facts which will show the truth after all. Most scientists are atheists to begin with so be very careful who you trust in…Either god or man??Remember, man can NOT save himself, he needs a savior…Did Bill Nye die for you or all mankind. Of course not. Evolution is the denial of our Heavenly Father, his son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.Dont be ignorant of Satans devices…satan is the father of lies and wants your soul…. Belief in evolution is his way of getting your soul. Don’t let him!!!

    • Thomas Baldwin

      OH GOD SATAN. it’s got my soul because I’m smart enough to believe evolution can be the hand of GOD and the bible written by man that might have gotten things wrong.. The fire of hell, they feel like love and compassion I feel for every living things because we all are one and made of the same genetic material. DEAR LORD, why. I should have never disobeyed the book that told me to only wear wool, not eat shell-fish, and to stone people to death.

      nuff said.

    • Alexander Wright

      You are wrong. Science does not deny the existence, or otherwise or your, or any other god.
      It merely states that there is no proof of such a being.

  • NWaff

    BILL NYE, THE HATE-FILLED GUY

    • Alexander Wright

      I think you’ll find it is the Evangelical Christians (and other fanatical religious groups) that are the ones full of hatred.

  • BarkingDawg

    Is Ken Ham’s “Ark Park” still financially solvent?

    • http://www.pheromones.com jvkohl

      Why do you ask? I think it will be a great addition to the Creation Museum, don’t you? Others: If you haven’t already visited the Creation Museum, I recommend you place a visit on your bucket list and hope you don’t kick the bucket first.

  • jennylynn
  • Jonathan Cruzate

    Concerning Bill Nye’s statement that being a Creationist limits critical thinking, I’d like to challenge that. I am almost 18, and I am a Christian. I believe the Word of God is true, and that God created everything, because I have made my own decision. I could give up on my faith, but I choose not to. That is not to say I keep an closed mind concerning science, though. The Catholic Church, then being the Christian Church itself, was wrong on many accounts yet held firmly on many beliefs that were later proven wrong by science. I like to keep a more open mind, and I am at peace with science and I love science, because science must coincide with the Bible, even if some discoveries don’t seem to make sense. I am only human and cannot hope to know or even understand everything. An example of this being the recent landing of the Rosetta lander on a comet, a first for humanity. Its mission is to see if it can find water and organic matter. Will I be surprised if they find anything? Sure, but I’d be more fascinated than anything. It’s something more I don’t understand, but I’d like to. In the end, the Word of God lives by itself and is active. Not everything will makes sense now and I do not pretend to say that I can make everything fit. I am not God to say that. I know, though, that the Word of God is true, and it will make sense when my understanding is opened before God.

    • Alexander Wright

      Your third sentence has just demonstrated the limit to your critical thinking. By saying you believe “the Word of God is true” you have limited your thinking by not considering the possibility that it is not.
      You have no evidence as to whether it is true or not, yet you are eliminating the possibility without any sort of critical thinking.

      • Reason2012

        A person can consider if the Bible is the Word of God or not – then decides it is. This means they did in fact consider both positions.

  • bigpawn01

    right ole ken ham is an idiot and so are those who buy his bs. he fails miserable as any one does when he tries to join science with his religion. religion is fiction science is based on fact they do not mix and any attempt to fails and makes one look like the idiot they are. we are so lucky to live in a time when science rules the real world and good men like bill nye. Neal degrass tyson,richard dawkins and others take the time to write books in an attempt to make science easier for us to understand. it is an insult to their effort and ever rational thinking mind that uneducated idiots or just plain fools would try to contradict them based on a book of fiction. the days of religion are coming to an end and the faster the better i will be buying my nye’s book as i do all the good scientists books. the world would benefit greatly if lighting would strike ken ham or some other act of nature, his intentional attempts to pollute the minds of children with his hateful religion can not be forgiven. god is not good religion poisons everything.

  • EdWalton

    If Darwin is correct then rape, slavery, and genocide are noble pursuits; we’re easily mislead, but because GOD is good we can know to strive for justice.

    • BarkingDawg

      why do you think that people who don’t believe in creationism are incapable of having ethics and morals?

      are you that short sighted?

      • EdWalton

        You’re presenting naval-gazer as supreme representatives of evolutionary thought; when moral thought has no place in the survival of the fittest. We’d have never heard of Gandhi, nor Martin Luther King, if they’d have confronted Genghis Khan, Hitler, or Lenin.

        I have a better understanding, of our fallen-nature; then you’re willing to acknowledge.

  • The Lone Ranger

    Who wants to read a book from an educated moron ?

    • BarkingDawg

      people buy copies of different versions of the bible all the time.

    • tyler

      educated moron? that’s an oxymoron.

      I will read anything from Bill Nye – he is awesome!

      Also, he is so much more influential than you and your close minded ultra conservative hateful christians.

      Bill Nye for President!

  • Reason2012

    Ask evolutionists to show an example of populations of fish morphing over generations (‘evolving’ they call it) eventually into animals we’d clearly no longer consider fish. This is what they claim happens, yet pick any animal: the human race has never observed any such thing, *hence it’s observable scientific fact it does not happen until anyone ever shows it to do so*.

    Here’s what *is* science: It’s observable, scientific fact that no matter how many generations go by over the entire existence of the human race, populations of: fish remain fish, reptiles remain reptiles, birds remain birds, viruses remain viruses and so on. In spite of this, evolutionists:

    (a) *Ignore* that scientific fact

    (b) Make up a belief *contrary* to that scientific fact

    (c) Where that belief *never happens, can only be believed in* and hence can’t be called science anyway but demand it be called science and contradict what IS observable scientific fact.

    Evolutionism is nothing but a complete distortion of science and observable, repeatable scientific fact.

    Evolutionists are ignoring what is observable, scientific fact, make up beliefs that are contrary to this observable, scientific fact, where these beliefs also never happen.

    Then they’ll make up beliefs about fossils that never happens and claim fossils are “evidence” of it. But making up beliefs ABOUT fossils that never happens and then claim fossils are “evidence” of it is anti-science circular reasoning, not science.

    Evolutionist “That’s a transitional fossil – and here are reasons I believe it is”
    “How do you know it is?”
    Evolutionist “Because evolutionism is true”
    “How do you know evolutionism is true when it never happens?”
    Evolutionist “Because that’s a transitional fossil – and here are reasons I believe it is”
    (repeat)

    It would be similar to someone else making up a brand new belief like “populations of trees morphed over generations eventually into human beings” and claiming fossilized tree branches and DNA similarity between tree branches and humans are “evidence” of it, and it would be just as much of an anti-science farce.