Woman Allowed to Wear Colander on Head in DMV Photo as Part of ‘Religion’ to Mock Christians

SteinhauserST. GEORGE, Utah — A Utah woman was recently allowed to wear a colander on her head for her driver’s license photo as part of a satirical religion that is meant to mock Christianity and its beliefs.

Jessica Steinhauser is a former porn film star, known then as Asia Carrera, and recently brought a spaghetti strainer to the Hurricane Department of Motor Vehicles to wear on her head for her updated license.

Steinhauser is a member of the so-called “Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster” (FSM), also known as Pastafariasm. The movement began in 2005 when founder Bobby Henderson sent an open letter to the Kansas Board of Education to express his opposition to its decision to allow the teaching of Intelligent Design as an alternative to evolution, mocking biblical Creation with the concept of a “spaghetti monster.”

“With millions, if not thousands, of devout worshipers, the Church of the FSM is widely considered a legitimate religion, even by its opponents—mostly fundamentalist Christians,” the organization’s largely blasphemous website states, then proceeds to make a crude statement about the Almighty that is sexual in nature.

“If you say Pastafarians must believe in a literal Flying Spaghetti Monster to be True Believers, then you can make a similar argument for Christians,” it later states. “There is a lot of outlandish stuff in the Bible that rational Christians choose to ignore. We do the same with our scripture. This is intentional.”

“He boiled for your sins,” states one poster featured on the site. Another features a mockery of John 3:16, making a reference to “Spaghetti 3:16,” and shows a man carrying a cross that reads “Pastafarianism.”

The Utah DMV states that approximately a dozen of those who belong to the satirical movement have had their photo taken with a colander on their head in recent years. Approximately two years ago, the department concluded that the strainers would be permissible as it recognized FSM as a religion. Hats and other headgear are not allowed to be worn for driver’s license photos unless they are considered to be part of the individual’s religious garb.

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“As long as we can get a visual of the face, we’re fine if they choose to wear the headgear,” Nannette Rolfe, the director of Utah’s Driver License Division, told the Associated Press.

Steinhauser says that she identifies foremost as an atheist and sought to wear the colander for her driver’s license photo to make a statement.

“I’m a really proud, outspoken atheist,” she told reporters. “I am proud of Utah for allowing freedom of all religions in what is considered by many to be a one-religion state.”

A similar story made headlines in September when Shawna Hammond of Oklahoma prompted review by the state highway patrol when questions arose about her driver’s license photo, which likewise featured the self-proclaimed atheist wearing a strainer on her head.

“I’m glad I was able to do it. It’s hard living as a non-religious person in Oklahoma,” Hammond stated. “It felt good to be recognized that we can all coexist and have those equal rights.”

However, some atheists have been turned away in various locales, such as in British Columbia, where Obi Canuel has been fighting the government in an effort to obtain permission to wear the colander for his photo.


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  • MarkT.

    Sorry, it does not offend us at all, it just makes you look stupid.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

      Ya know that part in the Bible where God is sitting on His throne laughing…I think it was because He saw that lady!

      • D. Mitchell Sweatt

        7.6 million children worldwide died before their 5th birthday in 2010. How can god find time to laugh?

        • Pax Humana

          Sod off, you tosser!

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

          God is laughing because those children are with Him now enjoying paradise. They will never hunger, never thirst, and never have to worry or feel fear ever again.

          • D. Mitchell Sweatt

            So those children that starved to death, one of the most painful ways to die, your own stomach slowly eating itself, doesn’t give god any sleepless nights? He’s up there laughing?

        • Samuel Robinson

          By that remark, I assume you never laugh? In which case, it must be sad being you. Yes, it’s terrible that so many die, but that shouldn’t stop us all from finding joy in life. And if we can feel joy, then God certainly can.

        • ort

          The verse says that The Lord laughs in derision at those who say among themselves that they will overthrow God and do their own thing. The laughter is full of contempt at their foolishness.

          • Phipps Mike

            “overthrow God and do their own thing.”
            excuse me? God GAVE us FREE WILL, He WANTS us to do our own thing including to make the choice whether or not we would believe in him. Otherwise, we would ALL believe.

          • ort

            Psalm 2:3-5. Please read it in context so you can see what I am saying.
            I do not disagree with the fact we all have free will. But this verse is about those who have chosen evil, and think they can remove God’s authority from them. Whether we believe or not, God is still the Ultimate Judge we all must stand before. As a believer, we stand before The Bema Seat for what we did as believers—to receive our Crowns and rewards.
            For the unsaved, it’s the Great White Throne Judgment which basically is their trial. God shows them why they are going to hell.

          • Phipps Mike

            “and think they can remove God’s authority from them”
            ok, yea. I get ya now.

          • ort

            ; )

          • D. Mitchell Sweatt

            There is no such thing as free will. Free will cannot be given. It either is or it isn’t. The biblical version of free will states you do what you are told or burn in hell. That isn’t free. Pharaoh didn’t have free will (god hardened his heart). Adam didn’t have free will (his act punished all of humanity even though Adam had no comprehension of humanity). Men wrote the bible, then edited it, translated it badly, edited it again and still fail to live up to its edicts. It isn’t real. Wake up. http://www.BibleCrazy.com

          • ort

            No, Adam and Eve were told they could anything in the garden but the one thing they were forbidden to eat. They made the CHOICE to disobey God. Just like all humanity does every single day. Hard, cold, fact.

            And if you read the Bible, it states that “hell was created for the devil and his angels”. They ALSO had free will and CHOSE to rebel against God. One third of the Angels did, most did not.

            Thirdly, I love my Heavenly Father with all my heart. I know His Word is true. But let’s say you are right and it’s not. When I die I’ve lost nothing. But if I am right, you lose everything for eternity.

          • James Grimes

            Absolutely! God must laugh at the Atheists who come here to spin their foolishness.

          • ort

            Agreed. Yet, He still loves them. It must break His heart when they choose hell over Him.

          • Jrad

            I suspect God cries at the foolishness of atheists since He Loves them too and just like parents must eventually allow their children to make foolish mistakes when they are grown, God must allow His children to do the same.

  • davidreilly7

    I would not wear a colander but your comment could equally apply to crucifixes and crosses.

    • jcrosby35

      I would have to disagree. Wearing a colander on your head just shows stupidity. Wearing a cross or shows dedication and value to the one it represents. Unless of course you are dedicated to being and idiot and want the whole world to know?

      • Caroline Murray

        Well isn’t that what she’s doing? Dedicating herself to idiocracy and proclaiming it to the worl?

      • cheeseggs2

        Why can’t someone be dedicated to FSM? That’s kind of harsh for you to chose what people are allowed to be dedicated to?

        • Phipps Mike

          because FSM doesnt always remember the meatballs. :o)

      • D. Mitchell Sweatt

        Idolatry is a sin.

        • jcrosby35

          And what is idolatry?

      • HazumuOsaragi

        As Lenny Bruce once said:

        If Jesus had been killed twenty years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks instead of crosses.

        • jcrosby35

          Who is Lenny Bruce? What are his qualifications to speak for anyone? You people need to be wearing tin foil hats to celebrate your hero’s. That way you can be recognized for your liberal mentality. Be sure to have your tin foil hat when you get your state lic. Identity is important.

          • Phipps Mike

            Lenny Bruce was a comedian, you must be a pup.

          • HazumuOsaragi

            Shhh… I was rather enjoying jcrosby35’s inchoate projecting of subconscious fears onto the handy projection screen I provided >:-]

          • jcrosby35

            Well then give to a comedian what is his just wage and let others who know and understand what is going on get on with life. If you want to play games fine. There are others who live life. So find another tree to bark up, pup.

          • Phipps Mike

            live life but don’t have a laugh once in a while? you must REALLY have the case of “stodgies”
            I called you “pup” meaning you are too YOUNG to remember Lenny Bruce obviously. He was George Carlins’ predecessor….always in trouble for telling naughty jokes.

          • jcrosby35

            Have a good laugh by all means. But not at the cost of your Christian character.

        • ort

          Lenny Bruce died, unsaved, of a drug overdose. I don’t think he is the wisest person you could have quoted. Another idiot who threw his life and soul away.

          • HazumuOsaragi

            “Lenny Bruce died, unsaved, of a drug overdose. I don’t think he is the wisest person you could have quoted. Another idiot who threw his life and soul away,”

            is an example of the logical fallacy Ad Hominem – or, ‘Attacking the Source’.

            The manner in which Mr. Bruce lived and died is irrelevant to the point of the quote.

            I’ll quote the truth wherever I find it thank you.

            – ‘Donald Shimoda’ in Richard Bach’s ‘Illusions’

          • ort

            Yes, let’s all listen to the pearls of “wisdom” from one of life’s losers. Unfunny and unwise both in life and death.

          • HazumuOsaragi

            Project much?

          • ort

            Deny the reality of hell much?

          • HazumuOsaragi

            Deny the reality of hell much?
            Your assertion is common amongst ‘Law’ Christians.

          • ort

            The only Law is God’s Law. Reject Christ’s Atonement, and be separated from God in hell forever. It’s not too difficult to understand.
            But you have free will to do as you please. But one day, you gotta pay the piper.

          • HazumuOsaragi

            Yep, you’re a ‘Law’ Christian…

          • ort

            The 10 Commandments are Law and they still stand. Christ died for us, so that is where Grace comes in.

            You reject both, and that is where hell becomes part of the conversation. Keep rejecting, and hell is where you will end up.
            Repent, and find Life. Your choice.

  • Becky Taylor

    Atheists continually compare God and Jesus to the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, Barney, and other fictional characters while also comparing the bible to Lord of the Rings. It is meant to be nothing more than mockery and intimidation. Actually their comparisons are easily refuted. All the fictional characters and stories they compare God and the bible to were never presented as a claim to origins of life and the universe. That would be like comparing evolutionary theories to the odyssey. Although evolution is wrong it was never presented as a story or fairy tale and neither was the bible or God. Christianity and every other religion or belief including atheism are ideologies presented as a explanation to our existence. Only ONE is right and I personally know that God’s way is the only way.

    • Nullifidian

      The Wikipedia entry on creation myths shows over 50 stories, including the one in Genesis. Every one of those myths was or is devoutly held to be true by some people. What’s so special about yours, other than you believe it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

        Wikipedia isn’t necessarily considered a valid source. Ask any college professor.

        • Phipps Mike

          Regina, wikipedia cannot be totally dismissed as a reliable source. There are MANY entries with credible facts. All one needs to do is check the footnotes to see the sources for that particular article. Wikipedia is not a source of itself. The people that make those entries use research just as any other site does.

          • RDH1988

            Key word here…”totally”

          • Phipps Mike

            for what he was referencing, wikipedia is just as good as the OTHER quadzillion resources that will ALSO tell you that some stories in the Bible are FICTION to teach PARABLES. Anybody that is a fundamentalist needs locked up in the nearest wacko ward.

          • Nullifidian

            You cannot dismiss the list of over 50 creation stories merely because it appears in Wikipedia. There is a link to the creation story from each named culture.

            Are you suggesting there are not that many creation stories from many cultures around the world through history?

      • RDH1988

        Wow!!! Seriously??? You quote wikipedia as a legitimate, peer-reviewed scientific literature resource???

      • The Last Trump

        The fact that science backs it up. Even after some of the brightest minds of the 20th century claimed the universe always existed and had no beginning. You know, simpletons like Einstein and his contemporaries, who mocked a literal beginning to the universe as depicted in the Bible. And so Christians suffered scorn and ridicule from the “science” crowd at that time. But then Hubble came along and proved with scientific measurement that the universe did indeed have a beginning. Ooops. The greatest minds of the twentieth century were proved to be wrong and the Bible proved, once again, to be right. There was absolutely a beginning. In fact, all indicators point to a match with the order of events as listed in the book of Genesis. The Bible for thousands of years has told us that creation began suddenly when God proclaimed, “Let there be light.” Further, the Bible repeatedly states that God has “stretched out the heavens.” Interesting choice of words as it turns out. Scientists today are confirming that our universe indeed had a BEGINNING, a SUDDEN explosion of LIGHT followed by rapid EXPANSION. Up until now, the order of events in the Genesis account of creation has made no sense whatsoever. Creation begins with light, yet God does not go on to create the Sun until the fourth “day”!? Well how about that. Just another amazing coincidence in a steady string of amazing coincidences for the skeptics though. Einstein and his contemporaries had it wrong, but Moses was able to “guess” the order of events correctly thousands of years ago? Yeah, ok. Bible right, modern scientists wrong, once again. You give that book a chance and the science is always there to back it up. You just can’t get any more reliable. The science just needs to CATCH UP.

        http://y-jesus.com/more/science-christianity-compatible/
        http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/physicist-big-bang-breakthrough-confirms-creation/

    • D. Mitchell Sweatt

      Actually many of the biblical tales are considered metaphor. Unless you think Noah’s flood actually happened and a small family repopulated the Earth.

      • Pax Humana

        Actually, you are a jerk weed and a servant of Lucifer that is actively using historical revisionism in order to coerce people into buying into your bad bill of goods. Were I in a legal position, I would make life miserable for you as you actively seek to do to other people and, yes, I CAN charge you with ACTUAL crimes that CAN be proven in a court of law, period, full stop.

      • Wootsauce

        Considered metaphor by whom??

      • RDH1988

        Uh, I believe in the actual flood…fossils in areas they never could have gotten to without one…simple archeology and geology…worldwide flood provides the answers

      • The Last Trump

        Hey, look everybody! Looks like we’ve got another live one here! Let me guess. You actually believe that in the beginning, there was nothing. But, then IT exploded!? And from NOTHING came EVERYTHING! And somehow, via mysterious and scientifically unduplicated processes with fanciful names like “natural selection” (a.k.a. “magic”) both males and females were formed. And, wouldn’t you know, there just happened to be a rich variety of food sources to go around to sustain everything. And all of this happened completely by accident without reason or purpose. Yessss. THAT’s so much more believable. What were WE thinking! Put your colander back on. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    • http://aebrain.blogspot.com Zoe_Brain

      Only ONE is right and I personally know that God’s way is the only way.

      Which one? There are so many gods and scriptures, after all.

      Regarding fiction, I’ll quote Calvin if I may:

      “Those who assert that ‘the earth moves and turns’…[are] motivated by ‘a spirit of bitterness, contradiction, and faultfinding;’ possessed by the devil,they aimed ‘to pervert the order of nature.’

      – John Calvin, sermon no. 8 on 1st Corinthians, 677

      And Martin Luther:

      “Scripture simply says that the moon, the sun, and the stars were placed in the firmament of the heaven, below and above which heaven are the waters…
      It is likely that the stars are fastened to the firmament like globes of fire, to shed light at night… We Christians must be different from the philosophers in the way we think about the causes of things. And if some are beyond our comprehension like those before us concerning the waters above the heavens, we must believe them rather than wickedly deny them or presumptuously interpret them in conformity with our understanding.”

      – Martin Luther, Luther’s Works. Vol. 1. Lectures on Genesis

      It’s true, Scripture does say, quite clearly, that the Earth is held up by pillars, and covered by a firmament to which the stars are afixed, and which keep the “Waters Above” from flooding the Earth as in Noah’s times.

      Not to believe that, despite the evidence of rockets, satellites, moon-landings and so on is wicked – if you credit Scripture.

  • Tina Taylor

    a sad decision but hers to make 😉

  • Becky Taylor

    As long as her face is visible for the picture I don’t care what she wears on her head.

    • rdytogo

      True, forgot about that…off to laugh some more 🙂

  • bowie1

    I can see the guys in the white coats coming to take her in the paddy wagon. Believers on the other hand continue to look like those who are the sane ones.

  • jcrosby35

    In the past couple of months I have had occasions to have to deal with liberals and the anti Christ liberal attitude. To my dismay I came to the conclusion that these people not only like being ignorant but they wallow in their ignorance like pigs in a wallow. Not a whole lot you can do with that kind of attitude except to avoid it. Do not cast your pearls to swine or dogs unless they trample them and turn and attack you. Be aware some people you cannot help.

    • D. Mitchell Sweatt

      JCrosby, it’s called atheism. Mostly because christains who spout morals always end up being hypocrites. Like for instance when they do not love their neighbor as their brother etc.
      “anti Christ liberal” sounds like a breakfast cereal.

      • jcrosby35

        Is that right? Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus Christ is not about breakfast cereal. He is about repentance and grace. So if you are perfect you are welcome to cast the first stone. If not then you best consider repentance and the grace of God. You are going to need it. You see I am not sin less, but thank God and give Him glory I am saved by grace.

        • Phipps Mike

          “Jesus Christ is not about breakfast cereal.”
          bwahahahahaha! thats even funnier than the pic!

        • James Grimes

          Thank you for sharing. Your position strongly states a Christian’s position.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

        Do you expect everyone who goes to the hospital to be in perfect health? No! The hospital is for people in need of healing. Well there’s a reason why Jesus is referred to as “the great healer”. Christianity is a hospital for the soul. The body of Christ is made up of hypocrites, drug addicts, liars, thieves, adulterers, murderers, and all sorts of broken people ( I myself am a former witch). Christ then offers us forgiveness and healing so that we can become better than what we were. If Christianity only consisted of already perfect people, there would be no Christians. So try to let go of your presupposition that Christians are supposed to be perfect. It’s flattering, but that’s not what it’s all about.

        • RDH1988

          YES!! Well said!!! Christians are no more righteous than anyone else…it is just that we are aware of it and know that we need a Savior to pay for our many sins…we are not sinless at all…in fact the Bible teaches just that …which is the exact opposite of what a lot of people think it teaches and what we believe. We believe we are hopelessly lost in sin, and need to trust in the sacrifice Jesus paid for salvation…nothing based on our own merit! So often we are accused of being self-righteous and it is the exact opposite of what we really believe and what the Bible teaches.

      • RDH1988

        All people are hypocrites sometime in their life…it is a sin that Jesus came to pay the price for …even Christians fall and that is why we need a Savior because we can’t save ourselves because we can never be “good” enough. Hypocrisy is just one of many sins that we all do…

    • Phipps Mike

      “Not a whole lot you can do with that kind of attitude except to avoid it” BINGO! somebody FINALLY with the right answer, Now just avoid that Gays want SSM and this war might be over sooner than you think.

      • Wootsauce

        No it won’t. Not when you start forcing Christian businesses to cater to your “gay marriage” under threat of losing said business or having fines imposed on them…

        • Phipps Mike

          if SSM had been allowed, that couple might not have went to those bakers. I get the idea that it was purposeful as a type of revenge against bigots rather than actually wanting to use those people for baking the cake.

  • http://GREATSITE.COM/ John Lawton Jeffcoat III

    I’m not offended by this at all. Her “anti-Christian” motives for doing it are inside her own mind, and are not in any way “anti-Christian” in an obvious visual way in the driver license photo. If anything, it could be construed as “anti-Jewish”, as it seems more a mockery of the Jewish Skull Cap / Kippah that Jews often wear.

    The DMV’s policy for wearing a colander on your head for your DL photo should not be based upon religion, but upon practicality. If the DMV rule is: “No Hats of any kind”… then she cannot wear this. If there is no DMV rule for “No Hats”… then she is free to wear any hat she wishes, as long as it does not obscure her face in any way, for the photo.

    • rdytogo

      For my photo I have to take off my glasses…but they allow this? LOL Gotta go laugh some more 🙂

    • D. Mitchell Sweatt

      This is about the sarcasm of the flying spaghetti monster. In other words, the possiblilty of a flying spaghetti monster, or god, or Odin, have relatively the same possibility of existing. And they do.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

        However nobody is willing to look like a doofus to mock Odin etc…
        I wonder just what is it about Jesus that hits such a nerve? And don’t bother saying “violence done in His name” plenty of violence was done in the name of various pagan deities such as child sacrifice and “holy wars”….

        • Phipps Mike

          Regina,

          ” what is it about Jesus that hits such a nerve?”

          really? I KNOW you’re smarter than that. How about people USING Jesus as their defense to OPPRESS others freedoms. Such as SSM OR Porn…etc… Last time I checked, it’s not anybody else’s business about what goes on in others personal business but their own. Suffice it to say that “witnessing” or at least FORCEFUL,seething hateful, “you’re going to hell” type witnessing is on the way OUT THE DOOR. Fred Phelps kind of ignited it to a new high.

      • The Last Trump

        Absolutely. To any moron with a colander for a hat.

      • http://GREATSITE.COM/ John Lawton Jeffcoat III

        D. Mitchell Sweatt is just another atheist trolling the Christian News discussion boards. Such comments are a waste of space. Serious… what is the point in posting a comment like this, that says the Christian God is no more likely to exist than the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Do you think any Christians here are going to say, “Hey, you know… he might be right… I’m going to stop believing in God” after reading this unwelcome anti-God rhetoric? Posts like this are really more “grafetti” than they are posts.

  • rdytogo

    As a Christian…I am NOT offended…in fact…let me go laugh some more!!!!

  • Carolyn Foster

    This is what I call an airhead…….So stupid….There are idiots & then there are idiots……

    • Phipps Mike

      lol

  • Caroline Murray

    I seriously doubt the sanity of these people. And they think WE are the ones who look stupid?

    • D. Mitchell Sweatt

      Yes.

  • sahana64

    How exactly is this suppose to offend Christians? Heehe…. this is too funny. Hey, if she wants to wear a spaghetti strainer on her head go for it girl. She could have at least added some cooked spaghetti to go along with it …..hehe lol.

    • Phipps Mike

      I know, right. This is hilarious, I wish CNN was this much fun more often!

  • D. Mitchell Sweatt

    Oh, poor victims, oops I meant christians. They’re trying to steel christmas!
    The Bottom Line -no one has to respect your beliefs. That’s childish.
    I can respect the person, I can avoid cursing and attacking the person
    and remain on topic during a discussion. But respecting someones beliefs
    gives them a nice blanket of protection.

    I’m not comparing religion to other crimes but you wouldn’t respect a rapists beliefs. You
    wouldn’t respect politicians beliefs on taxation if he was handing all
    of our money to the rich.
    Does respecting someones beliefs mean not speaking up at all? Blasphemy
    is a victimless crime. God is untouchable. Your faith is unchangeable.
    So who exactly gets hurt feelings here?

    • Alex Moises

      Your belief of killing the unborn for selfish reasons is vile. I have to attack the belief systems of legal murder that you support.

    • Pax Humana

      You do because you are mad because people like us expose you for the murderous, vile, wretched, wicked, judgmental, arrogant, prideful, discriminatory, elitist, and literal pyramid scheme promoting scumbags that you are in your lives.

      • Phipps Mike

        nobody cares about comments from people (at least ,males) who use the word “sod”. That means you are from England or somewhere thereabouts and men from England are the TRUE “wankers” WHO MOAN TOO MUCH. Now crawl away, the adults are talking.

        • Pax Humana

          Try taking your own advice about crawling away, you git! Also, I was born and raised in the USA,. thank you very much, and the words that I would say to you would make a sailor, and especially one of the Navy SEALs variety, blush with shame. No one cares for an attention whore like you anyway.

  • Delvol

    If it weren’t so pathetic, it would actually be funny.

  • CD Carter

    Jessica Steinhauser. AKA former porn film star, known as Asia Carrera, is not “looking” as young and pretty as she used to…she’s getting older and one day closer to death. Followers of Christ should pray earnestly and sincerely for her, as She is lost and blind, as so many of us where before we came to believe and trust in Yeshua (Jesus); as it says in 2 Corinthians 4:4; Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

    • Phipps Mike

      “Asia Carrera, is not “looking” as young and pretty as she used to”
      I thought Christians didnt watch porn.

      • Pax Humana

        The lady that made the comment may have done porn before she found out the right way to live, you moron.

        • Phipps Mike

          How do you know that CD Carter is a woman, for starters? Then the rest is an assumption on your part. Looks like YOU are the moron.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

        You’re presupposing that Christians just “came out of nowhere” or we’re born perfect or something but in reality many Christians are former porn addicts, drug addicts, etc… it’s flattering though that you assume we’re all perfect goody-two-shoes…but if we all were we wouldn’t need Christ to begin with!

        • Phipps Mike

          “it’s flattering though that you assume we’re all perfect goody-two-shoes.”
          believe it or not, I get a lot of that in here. Every time I claim to be a Christian, I get bombarded with people saying I am not because I support equal rights. That’s not even a sin but yet…

          • The Last Trump

            Mike, you sly fox! You know why you get bombarded with claims that you are not! “Equal rights”? Tsk, tsk. “Not even a sin”! I think we’ve been over this before, yes? Chapters and verse. That you still claim surprise, is SURPRISING! 😉 You know, if “my” Christianity and “your” Christianity don’t match up very closely with the Christianity depicted in the Bible, then I think we can dispense with considering ourselves “Christian”. Just curious: you disregard the passages you disagree with and claim the Bible is chalk full with errors and misinterpretation. Why exactly then would you be identifying as a Christian when our God can’t even manage the simple task of providing His Word for us without gross mismanagement and widespread confusion? Doesn’t sound like much of a God to me. Not One that I’d be interested in following. What’s the draw for you, sir?

          • Phipps Mike

            Ok Trump, lets put it this way.
            1. I was a Baptist Christian for the first 14 years of my life and then I stopped going to Church because they were just rehashing the same old teachings over and over again with nothing new to offer. I went through with that belief all the way until I reached around my early 40’s where I started to wonder about certain parts of the Bible that were contradictory…etc…
            2. After much researching OTHER religions to see if I fit in closer to any of those, I found that my belief system most closely fit Christianity.
            3. there are HUNDREDS of different types of Christianity. So just WHO is the authority on WHICH ONE is REALLY true? NOBODY will know until HE comes back down on judgement day.
            4. So in conclusion, although I may not fit in 99 (arbitrary number) of the Christian classifications, I DO fit into ONE. Especially in the one that says that once you are saved, you are always saved.

            I am not trying to play the victim in here but I do have a strong desire to try and understand how so many in here consider themselves the authority on Christianity.
            The Bible in its entirety being seen as 100% correct is fundamentalism which I see as a mental illness. Especially when you factor in the stories that are REALLY “parables”.
            I don’t have a problem seeing God as one who could ALSO make mistakes. He DID think that his creation would not be sinners, but look what happened. Gods word (The Bible), is not failproof and WAS written to satisfy the men of that time, not so much God. MAN wrote the Bible, God didnt.

          • ort

            Which one is true??? Really? Read the Bible. If your beliefs, behaviors, and creeds do not match the Will and the Word of God, it’s not the right one. Simple, no?

          • Phipps Mike

            that is ASSUMING that the Bible is the correct Christianity. You missed my point completely.

          • ort

            The Bible is the inerrant Word of God. If we do not see that, then not one of us can be sure that anything in it is the truth. Heck, we don’t even know if we are saved or that we can trust God when He speaks!

          • Phipps Mike

            I just wrote this above to the last trump: (it answers how the Bible CAN be “errant”:

            just humoring that the Dead sea scrolls are matching the KJV, The dead sea scrolls still do NOT contain those DESTROYED books. That can take many things out of context.

            “there are all kinds of translation issues. Yet they all tend to be very minor and never alter the point of the text”

            ONE comma can change the ENTIRE meaning of a sentence. ESPECIALLY when converted to English:

            Boy wants to take his grandmother hunting with him:

            :lets go kill, Grandma! without the comma: Lets go kill Grandma!

            whoaaaaa!!!! yea, a MINOR change that COMPLETELY redirected. The crux of the whole matter is that it was MAN who communicated your defense of: “God directed us to trust it and rely on it,” God didn’t write that. MAN did. Gods direction was conveyed ONLY BY MAN.

            If God himself came down and wrote his own book without having man do it, THEN I would trust it. Man CANNOT be trusted…especially KINGS and the men of old who were cons.

          • ort

            God Himself wrote the 10 Commandments on tablets of stone with His own finger. So, He did write something directly.

            Secondly, English is different from Hebrew (Old Testament) and Koina Greek (New Testament).
            So you have a point regarding what you wrote in English, but not for Hebrew or Greek.
            Thirdly, the 20,000 texts of the Septuagint does prove what we know today as the Bible, is in fact, what was originally written.

            So again I say—if we can’t trust God in His Word, HOW do ANY of us have ANY assurance of Salvation? As Paul wrote “if Christ did not die and rise again, then our faith is in vain and we are all dead in our sins.”

          • The Last Trump

            I hear what you’re saying as I’ve come across this many times. But this is dangerous thinking, Mike. If we can each pick and choose from the book whatever we wish to believe and obey then it’s not much of a guide, is it? It’s either the Word of God or it’s not. There really is no in between. Otherwise none of us can really be lost can we? Our defence in God’s court would be unshakable in that His Word was full of errors and misinterpretation. How were we to know the truth, right? Essentially, our “bad” behaviour WOULD BE GOD’s FAULT! Good luck with that defence, buddy! Pretty sure God’s made very certain that this will never be the case.

            The Bible is very clear that God, the Holy Spirit, wrote this marvel of literature THROUGH men. “Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit” 2 Peter 1:21. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness” 2 Timothy 3:16. “Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David…” Acts 1:16.

            And thankfully, to remove any doubt whatsoever, God has allowed us to discover many resources to help us verify the accuracy and authenticity of His Word, like the Dead Sea Scrolls and thousands of other ancient manuscript copies. And wherever a word is in question, the multiple meanings are given to ensure complete understanding of any topic.

            On top of all this we have very detailed prophecies that have been fulfilled exactly, revealing once again, the absolute reliability of God’s Word because it was He, Himself, who wrote the book through men. So we have absolutely no reason whatsoever to have any further doubts. So be careful….that defence simply isn’t going to cut it.

            And He hasn’t made a mistake. The Bible declares that Christ was the Lamb to be slain from the foundation of the Earth. God knew exactly how things would play out. We don’t catch Him off guard. He exists in Eternity, outside of our time domain, which is why He regularly can describe for us the end from the beginning, like it’s already happened for Him.

            So if you’re serious about Christianity, you should really look more closely at the accuracy of the Bible and be very wary of picking and choosing what you obey. Quite simply, that decision hasn’t been left for us. Be careful! 😉

          • Phipps Mike

            ” like the Dead Sea Scrolls and thousands of other ancient manuscript copies.”
            I just had this convo with a lady yesterday that studies the Bible in detail and she said the Dead Sea scrolls were the ACCURATE Version and that the KJV is nothing but “garbage” that was tailored to suit King James.

          • The Last Trump

            She’s mistaken. Too many kooks on these sites. You really have to do your own homework. (Don’t even listen to what I tell ya! Check everything!) Here’s just a quick link to a more reputable source.

            “The significance of the Dead Sea Scrolls should never be underestimated. They answer one of the most critical questions of life: How do we know the Bible we have today has been passed down to us accurately – and is its message trustworthy?

            Until these texts became available, the oldest Hebrew Old Testament text in existence dated back to A.D. 800. No original manuscripts of the Bible exist today, so the next best thing is to go back to the oldest copies that would be closest to the originals. The Dead Sea Scrolls allow for that because they are 800-1,000 years older than previously known manuscripts.

            What the Dead Sea Scroll manuscripts clearly demonstrate is that through about a thousand years there was essentially no significant alteration in the text. The scribes who transcribed the text of the Bible were so meticulous – they had such high standards of accuracy, counting every word and every letter of every word, dotting each “i” and crossing each “t”, so to speak – that one may be absolutely certain the Old Testament text available to scholars today is in essence the same as the originals. The Dead Sea Scrolls are an incontrovertible archaeological confirmation that this is the case”

            http://www.christianpost.com/news/dead-sea-scrolls-exhibit-testifies-the-bible-is-true-36613/

          • Phipps Mike

            yea, well what she said is that there are hundreds of alterations made to the KJV. I am sure she can back it up too.

          • The Last Trump

            “I’m sure she can” is never good enough. I’d check it out if I were you. Only way to really BE sure. But hey, if you’re comfortable with that, oh well.

          • Phipps Mike

            I will look myself and get back to you.

          • Phipps Mike
          • The Last Trump

            “After a long and bitter debate, a vote was finally taken and it was with a majority show of hands that Judas Khrestus and Rabbi Jesus both became God (161votes for and 157 votes against). The Emperor effectively joined elements of the two individual life stories of the twin brothers into a singular creation.”

            Woa, Nelly! After reading through a bunch of nonsense and then coming to THIS! Yikes!

            Reputable sources, Mike. Not every fly by night crackpot who steps up to the microphone or posts a website. This is the Jesus we know based in science, not fiction:

            http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/207969/turin-shroud.jpg

            http://www.studiosindone.it/images/fronte-retro.jpg

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WNJPJ4JwHeE

            https://www.shroud.com/message.htm

          • Phipps Mike

            I fail to see why you think that you know more than the guy who posted that. Just because it doesn’t fit YOUR belief. Is that the definition of a Christian? one who refuses to believe ANYTHING unless they WANT to? The KJV is toilet paper, and that’s being nice.

          • The Last Trump

            I showed you actual evidence. Artifacts that have defied 35 years of extensive scientific research. Not my beliefs. What you decide to do with it is on you.

          • Phipps Mike

            “If we examine the oldest known Bible to date, the “Sinai Bible” housed in the British Museum (I believe that, during his many years of research, Tony had a private viewing of this priceless book), we find a staggering 14,800 differences from today’s Bible and yet it still remains the word of God?”
            nuff said. Its like playing “telephone”

          • The Last Trump

            Let’s see. “Tony” or God?…hmmm. Think I’ll stick with God. And science. And the Dead Sea Scrolls. You’re a character, my friend!

          • Phipps Mike

            So you are actually trying to say that Tony made up these 14 THOUSAND differences. I don’t think anybody has that much stamina or initiative to lie about it. Common sense dictates that since MAN wrote the Bible, that since there was so much DESTROYED (putting much of the Bible out of context), and that foreign languages don’t all transfer EVERY SINGLE word over to English, that the KJV is a MESS. Add to that the ADDITIONS made to SUIT King James agendas.

          • The Last Trump

            Heavens no! I would never call anyone a liar. 😉 As I indicated above, there are all kinds of translation issues. Yet they all tend to be very minor and never alter the point of the text. Particularly regarding homosexuality, I’m afraid. Sorry. 🙁

            I noticed that after pointing out the number of variances, they don’t bother to tell you that, do they. They just leave you to guess. Nice!

            Again, all you have to do is research even just the Dead Sea Scrolls to set your mind at ease. “The Dead Sea Scrolls can also give us confidence in the reliability of the Old Testament manuscripts since there were MINIMAL differences between the manuscripts that had previously been discovered and those that were found in Qumran. Clearly this is a testament to the way God has PRESERVED His Word down through the centuries, protecting it from extinction and guarding it AGAINST significant error.”

            “While the importance of these documents is multifaceted, one of their principle contributions to biblical studies is in the area of textual criticism. This is the field of study in which scholars attempt to recreate the original content of a biblical text as closely as possible. Such work is legitimate and necessary since we possess only copies (apographs), not the original manuscripts (autographs) of Scripture. The Dead Sea Scrolls are of particular value in this regard for at least two reasons: (1) every book of the traditional Hebrew canon, except Esther, is represented (to some degree) among the materials at Qumran (Collins, 1992, 2:89); and (2) they have provided textual critics with ancient manuscripts against which they can compare the accepted text for accuracy of content.”

            “Critical scholars questioned the accuracy of the MT, which formed the basis of our English versions of the Old Testament, since there was such a large chronological gap between it and the autographs. Because of this uncertainty, scholars often “corrected” the text with considerable freedom. Qumran, however, has provided remains of an early Masoretic edition predating the Christian era on which the traditional MT is based. A comparison of the MT to this earlier text revealed the remarkable accuracy with which scribes copied the sacred texts. Accordingly, the integrity of the Hebrew Bible was confirmed, which generally has heightened its respect among scholars and drastically reduced textual alteration.”

            Most of the biblical manuscripts found at Qumran belong to the MT tradition or family. This is especially true of the Pentateuch and some of the Prophets. The well-preserved Isaiah scroll from Cave 1 illustrates the tender care with which these sacred texts were copied. Since about 1700 years separated Isaiah in the MT from its original source, textual critics assumed that centuries of copying and recopying this book must have introduced scribal errors into the document that obscured the original message of the author.

            “The Isaiah scrolls found at Qumran closed that gap to within 500 years of the original manuscript. Interestingly, when scholars compared the MT of Isaiah to the Isaiah scroll of Qumran, the correspondence was astounding. The texts from Qumran proved to be word-for-word identical to our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The 5 percent of variation consisted primarily of obvious slips of the pen and spelling alterations (Archer, 1974, p. 25). Further, there were no major doctrinal differences between the accepted and Qumran texts (see Table 1 below). This forcibly demonstrated the accuracy with which scribes copied sacred texts, and bolstered our confidence in the Bible’s textual integrity (see Yamauchi, 1972, p. 130). The Dead Sea Scrolls have increased our confidence that faithful scribal transcription substantially has preserved the original content of Isaiah.”

            Mike, it’s a clear fact of science that the Bible we have today matches the scrolls of antiquity. Those who continue to hammer away at this tired, old fantasy are either grossly uneducated or willfully ignorant. Usually trying in vain to support a lifestyle or behaviour that they are very aware that the Bible very clearly does not support. So they challenge the accuracy of the translations. Unfortunately for them, God’s taken care of that critique too. Or maybe fortunately, if they truly want to live a life pleasing to God and count on His ability to BE God and preserve His word, which would only make sense now, wouldn’t it?

            I’m not trying to judge or argue for the sake of arguing. I used to challenge the accuracy of the Bible myself until I learned the TRUTH. I had to accept it myself. I can’t argue with proven fact and so I have just another of many scientific reasons to believe in the Christian God. That the Bible HAS been preserved to this remarkable and completely unexpected degree (“telephone” phenomena, exaggerations and embellishments non-existent!) is just another way God assures us that He is God and His Word can be trusted. Should not be this well preserved if it had been written by mere men. But it is. Which He has declared over and over again in the Bible, you know, for the folks who never got to see the Dead Sea Scrolls or any of the other ancient manuscripts that PROVE IT.

            To believe His Word is inaccurate and filled with errors after He has told us repeatedly that it can be trusted is to call God a LIAR. Is THAT what you are doing? God directed us to trust it and rely on it, and science backs it up. But you believe that you can stand before Him someday with the excuse, “but Tony said…..”!!

            You’re a braver man than I, my friend. Or much more foolish. One day we’ll find out, won’t we? I just wish you’d look into it a little deeper and see what the “science” says. Remember, “let no MAN deceive you!” It doesn’t matter what I think or you think. Only what God thinks, and He’s only told us that in one place. His Word.

            “And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the BOOKS were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the BOOKS, and according to their works.” Rev 20:12.

            We are judged according to the BOOKS. Which books? I think we can be sure the Bible, with its “books” will be among them. And there’s going to be an awful lot of people who feel pretty stupid on THAT day! And filled with regret. I’m not going to allow that to happen to me. Don’t let anybody talk you into allowing that to happen to you. The onus is on US to BE SURE and let NO MAN deceive us.

            “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me IN THAT DAY, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Mat7:21.
            What a time to “discover” that we were never “Christian” at all! Imagine the shock and the heartbreak! Because they allowed themselves to be deceived by men. You can trust the Word of God Mike. I know you think you can’t, but you can. And all of the evidence supports this. Fools with double talk and without evidence at all, speak to the contrary. Check it out thoroughly for yourself and BE SURE. YOUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON IT.
            Good luck and God bless!

            Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/dead-sea-scrolls.html#ixzz3Je8bw6MH

            http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/?locale=en_US

          • Phipps Mike

            just humoring that the Dead sea scrolls are matching the KJV, The dead sea scrolls still do NOT contain those DESTROYED books. That can take many things out of context.

            “there are all kinds of translation issues. Yet they all tend to be very minor and never alter the point of the text”

            ONE comma can change the ENTIRE meaning of a sedntence. ESPECIALLY when converted to English:

            Boy wants to take his grandmother hunting with him:

            :lets go kill, Grandma! without the comma: Lets go kill Grandma!

            whoaaaaa!!!! yea, a MINOR change that COMPLETELY redirected. The crux of the whole matter is that it was MAN who communicated your defense of: “God directed us to trust it and rely on it,” God didn’t write that. MAN did. Gods direction was conveyed ONLY BY MAN.

            If God himself came down and wrote his own book without having man do it, THEN I would trust it. Man CANNOT be trusted…especially KINGS and the men of old who were cons.

          • The Last Trump

            Except God the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible. Kings didn’t. Men didn’t, in the natural sense. Or else it’s just another false religion written by men. There can’t be a God if he needed us to write it. He’s then not relevant is he. It’s all just us.
            And when you actually read the Bible you will plainly see that kings rejected it. Kings killed and imprisoned the prophets like Isaiah and Jeremiah. Their books were only considered scripture after the events they prophesied THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT came to pass and they were then justified as prophets. Even King David (the only king to write any scripture) spoke as he was moved by the Holy Spirit and was thus able to prophesy very detailed events in the life of Christ, like His crucifixion, words on the cross, second coming, etc. A man cannot foretell the future with such clarity. GOD CAN AND DOES, through men, in the writing of His Word, which He’s proven.
            If you and I and everybody else can just pick the parts that we like and discard what we don’t, really not much of a guide. Just another fairy tale and a big waste of time. I wouldn’t waste anymore of your time on it if that is truly how you think. Not much of a point to it, now is there?
            If the Holy Spirit can’t convince you, I know I don’t have a chance in hell! (er, so to speak!). But I’ll keep praying for you, brother! 🙂

          • Phipps Mike

            A spirit cannot WRITE ANYTHING, That’s why he told certain men to scribe FOR him. That’s where my faith ends. I don’t trust MAN…period.

            “If you and I and everybody else can just pick the parts that we like and discard what we don’t”

            Its not like that with me. its not about a LIKE, its about what makes SENSE, God is loving, NOT HATEFUL, so he would not push away people who believed in him. Many homosexuals DO believe in God.
            I want to express though that I appreciate the great deal of time you have already spent talking to me. Its not something many do.

          • The Last Trump

            Yes, God is loving. But He’s also HOLY. And His holiness demands judgment of sin. We will never be good enough as our righteousness is like “filthy rags” to Him. So God made a way for us where there seemed to be no way.
            Jesus Christ personifies the holiness and the love of God. He satisfied the requirement of the judgment of sin, and the love God has for us, in one event. His crucifixion. He paid a debt He did not owe. We owed a debt we could not pay. 🙁
            When you look at the devastation to the body of the Man in the Shroud, the shock is overwhelming. Jesus told those He healed to go and sin no more. His gift of grace is not a licence to sin. He demands change in us. We will always miss the mark, but He expects us to try.
            Anybody who thinks that there is not a price to pay for sin, and that God is only loving, should take a long, hard look at the Man in the Shroud. If there is not a very real hell, do you really think He would have bothered?

      • ort

        Really? You can’t see her picture? She looks rode hard and put away wet. I’m assuming she would have had to have been attractive to do those sorts of perverse “movies”. Unless, of course, you prefer the Rosie O’Donnell type. I have no clue what she looked like in her younger years, but it HAD to be better than what I see now.

        • Phipps Mike

          lol…ok fair enough. Ever notice that a LOT of women who are actresses for a while when caught without their makeup, they look worn out as well? Particularly around the eyes. Look at some pics of Charlize Theron, Ashley Judd, Gwyneth Paltrow without makeup.

          • ort

            Unfortunately we all age. Some better than others. Father Time is a royal jerk.

  • Phipps Mike

    lol….this is just another out of control ridiculousness. Cant we all just get along? Shaking my head. Ya know, if you cant just get a small laugh out of this, you are working too hard. I would’ve beta thousand dollars 10 years ago that all of this stuff going back and forth between Christians and atheists would have never happened. Truth IS stranger than fiction.

  • MC

    Ah, atheists showing their wonderful tolerance again. She should put a bag over her face instead.

  • Ann Hall

    I agree that it looks stupid and doesn’t offend me either. Looks like they should have worn a solid bowl to hold in what’s left of their brain. Or better yet put a bag over their head.

  • James Grimes

    A sick person in a fallen world – the perfect combination.

    • Malcolm Swall

      You can’t discriminate against a religion! Everyone in America is free to worship as they see fit. There are many, many religious denominations, and they are are entitled to free expression.

      First they will come for your colanders, next they will come for your rosary beads.

      • James Grimes

        Geez, another meaningless comment. Don’t you realize that as an Atheist, your presence on this site is insignificant?

        • Malcolm Swall

          “Geez, another meaningless comment. Don’t you realize that as an Atheist, your presence on this site is insignificant?”

          Your comment is meaningless.

  • http://www.remnantofgod.org John1429dotorg

    Matthew 12:36, “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.”

  • jennylynn

    These people really need Jesus, they are so messed up!

  • Linda

    count it all joy, when they mock you. For they mocked Jesus first. He says to love those who hate you. I choose to love her and pray for her.

  • Kaputa TV

    How stupid can atheists be to not realize that their strong belief system is also a religion, and that the “gods” they worship are themselves. Then again, looking at the photo, they do like to look stupid.

  • Nora Shaw

    It always amazes me that these people take the time to make fun of God that they don’t believe exist…lol

    • Chrissy Vee

      Ya know? Sheer insanity! Fight against, debate about, sue, harrass… stupidity at its finest. According to their logic, why are they not fighting Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny with such fervor? Because deep in their hearts, they KNOW he exists.
      ~For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:~ Romans 1:20
      Got it atheists? No matter how many times you try to convince yourselves He does not exist, it will never make him cease to exist. And trying to convince Christians that He doesn’t shows your foolish ignorance. Repent. Believe. Your time is running out. Tick…tock….

  • RDH1988

    Ya just can’t fix stupid…I’m not offended by her action, I just think she is anxious to try and offend Christians…but this is simply to stupid to be offensive.

  • Guest

    Why would this take anyone by surprise ?
    Jude 1:18
    How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

  • The Lone Ranger

    If this takes you by surprise it show’s your biblical ignorance, I know I don’t have a high and mighty education like some of you DR.s PHDs. Who can speak and write so swell but I’ll tell you this, bless your heart I’m not biblical ignorant. My advice to you is educate
    yourself about what scripture says and converse less then you can discern what’s going on .If your borne again that is. If not then that should be your first order of business with the Lord.
    Jude 1 : 16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage.

    17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

    18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

  • http://aebrain.blogspot.com Zoe_Brain

    Pastafarianism is no more silly, and no less silly, than any other Religion.

  • HazumuOsaragi

    IPU adherents demand equal time:

  • ort

    So this person had sex for money on video for the world to see, but Christians are crazy? What a silly skank.

  • Chrissy Vee

    Idiot.

  • railhead

    Although these people mock Christians (which is nothing new or original, it’s been going on for hundreds of years), they don’t realize how ridiculous their own explanations of the orgins of life and the universe look. One Tuesday afternoon there was a huge explosion that “created” everything, kaboom! We’ve never seen an explosion “create” any semblence of order in the real world, but since the only other alternative is some kind of God, it sounds good. Then over millions of years an amoeba turned into a human. Evolution is a fact because their school teachers and professors told them so….you know the same ones that got arrested for statutory rape (that’s what happened to two of my science teachers).
    But as for what the state of Utah allows on their driver’s license, I’m more appaled that my home state required me to be fingerprinted to get a driver’s license. Should people be allowed to wear stupid pasta bowls on their head…absolutely.

    • Phipps Mike

      ” One Tuesday afternoon there was a huge explosion that “created” everything, kaboom! ”
      and one Saturday afternoon, God was created by ? and KABOOM.
      Both are EQUALLY faith based. Although we choose to believe in God, we cant explain the ORIGIN of God anymore than they can explain the origin of man.

  • nyarlotep

    Pastafarians aren’t mocking any particular religion, just the concept of religion. Which most religions get butthurt about, so they’re more accurately poking fun at all religions.

  • http://www.moveupmarketinggroup.com Linda Tannen

    It’s really silly is this a joke?

  • Melody Rae

    I think its a great idea, it marks them, it tells the whole world who they are, God is the one laughing wondering how in the world did he create such stupid human beings

  • Malcolm Swall

    You can’t prove that it isn’t a religious garment.

    You can’t prove religion, you have to believe in it. If it could be proven, it would be science.

    Freedom of religious expression is for everyone, not just those that agree with you.