Darren Wilson Breaks Silence, Says Michael Brown Appeared Demon-Possessed

WilsonFERGUSON, Mo. — During an exclusive interview with ABC News, Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson stated that he believed teenager Michael Brown appeared to be demon-possessed the night to the got into an altercation that resulted in Brown’s shooting death.

“That moment before the second shot, you guys are staring at each other, and you said that there was a look in his eye like something you’ve never seen before. You described it as a demon,” ABC’s George Stephanopolous said to Wilson during the interview this week.

“It was a very intense image he was presenting,” Wilson replied, nodding.

“A demon?” Stephanopolous asked.

“Very intense,” Wilson repeated, nodding.

“And what did you think was going on in his mind? Why do you choose the word demon?” Stephanopoulous inquired.

“I don’t really know what was going on,” Wilson replied. “I was just shocked by the whole interaction. It escalated so quickly from a simple request to now a fight for survival. And it still doesn’t make sense to me why someone would act in that way and be so mad instantly and be so aggressive instantly.”

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“And so, you’re staring at each other [and] you see this demon,” Stephanopoulos said moments later. “What did you think he was going to do?”

“I was prepared for the worst,” Wilson replied. “When he came back at me, I thought, ‘He’s going to punch me til I’m dead or take my gun and shoot me with it. He’s already tried it once.'”

Stephanopoulos was referring to Wilson’s testimony to the grand jury this summer, during which he testified that the only way he could describe Brown’s demeanor was demonic.

“I looked at his face. It was just, like, intense,” he told the jury. “It was very aggravated, aggressive, hostile. You could tell he was looking through you. There was nothing he was seeing.”

“He had the most intense, aggressive face. The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that’s how angry he looked,” Wilson continued. “I just saw his hands up, I don’t know if they were closed yet, on the way to going closed—I saw this and that face coming at me again, and I just went like this and I shielded my face.”

The officer told Stephanopoulos that even when Brown had been struck by the first few bullets, “he was almost bulking up to run through the shots.”

“The face that he had was looking straight through me, like I wasn’t even there, I wasn’t even anything in his way,” he said.

Wilson said that he began backing up upon observing Brown’s demeanor, “because I know if he reaches me, he’ll kill me.”

“I just felt the immense power that he had,” he stated. “The only way I can describe it is I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan.”


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  • Neiman

    There is no question in my mind from a Christian point of view, that Michael Brown may well have been under the influence of a demon of some kind, that would cause him to be so enraged to physically attack a police officer and then when ordered otherwise to get on the ground – with a gun pointed at him, even after him being shot, that he would not stop. Those are not the actions of a normal man, not even a totally corrupt criminal, there is no evidence that he was mentally ill – not being a violent psychopath; and while there was marijuana in his system, that normally makes one rather passive not aggressive. So, at that moment, for whatever reason, it is not unreasonable to think it was some other force that had taken control of Michael and a demon is a logical assumption.

    Let us say it was a demon of some kind, we know that the Devil is a destroyer of lives; and, he destroyed the physical life of Michael Brown and for all intent and purposes the current career and any meaningful future career of Darren Wilson, Darren’s life is pretty much destroyed. So, it all makes sense to me.

    • Pax Humana

      Marijuana makes people violent, for it is also used, as are many other illicit and harmful natural AND synthetic drugs, to communicate with realms that are beyond our own and when people do that, then they are toying with Lucifer and his minions. The concept of the whirling dervish in a certain part of the world is a testament to that happening in the lives of people.

      • Phipps Mike

        “Marijuana makes people violent”
        although I am 100% drug intolerant. I do know from US History that marijuana was one thing used in “peace pipes” when Native Americans bargained with the white man. Marijuana MELLOWS a lot of people out and thats marked by slower reaction times. Now if that marijuana is LACED, which a lot of it is today, then that OTHER chemical is responsible. If marijuana (THC) did truly make a person violent, NO State would ever legalize it, even for medicinal purposes.

        • Neiman

          I don’t know much about recreational drugs. I thought it always made people passive. I didn’t know that about the Indians, I heard something about peyote and some other drug used in ceremonies.

          • Phipps Mike

            Anything that is a hallucinogen can make you violent. Like LSD, Angel Dust, etc…
            Peyote yes, was also used. (Jim Morrisons’ fav) , and there is some other drug like you said. My wife went to Montana and served with this collective from her college to help the Native Americans, They had her smoke this pipe that had that drug you are talking about to find her “totem” animal protector while they were in a sweat lodge. A most hilarious result came from that, She actually believed a “jackelope” was her totem animal that she seen…lol. Of ALL of the things, she got stuck with that one.

          • Revisionist

            I use to smoke weed and I was still a fighting fool. Its a chemical additive natural or not natural it still alters you. I fought by best friend when I was high because he said stupid sh*t as if I was lying.. oh he was high lying … if you’re a fighter you’re gonna fight weed or no weed

        • Pax Humana

          …but bribery, extortion, payola, graft, corruption, and running a “protection” racket all have a way of changing that, as well as diminished brain cell capability, am I right? I know that I am right, so do not even bother to respond to my question.

          • Phipps Mike

            I don’t see how any of the things you listed can change the physical effects of marijuana use. Environment does not change the effects of drugs. THC (the element in marijuana that gets you high) does not destroy brain cells. Sniffing glue does though.

          • Pax Humana

            …which you seem to have done plenty in your life if you believe all of that bullshit that just came out of your mouth.

          • Phipps Mike

            I really shouldn’t worry about your comebacks, because they are so NAIVE that they are pathetic. There is enough research out there about drugs and what they do for all people to know the facts about them. I think you missed it all, obviously. Marijuana is NOT physically addictive, it is NOT a hallucinogenic, it does NOT make a person violent. Environment doesn’t do ANYTHING to the effects of being high on pot. Stick to being an abrasive pseudo-christian and leave the drug talk to those who are not ignorant. You get a failing mark for your clueless input.

      • Neiman

        I didn’t know that about marijuana, I don’t know much about
        recreational drugs.Otherwise, I think your points are well taken.

        • jennylynn

          In Revelation 21:8 it says” but the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers (pharmakeus in Greek) and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

          A word study will tell you tht pharmakeus means, drugs, spell givin potions, a druggist a pharmacist, a poisoner, a magician.

          Most people don’t realize that drugs is part of satan’s plan to damn souls. He has many avenues and uses all his sources.

      • Phipps Mike

        Pax Humana

        Go take a toss on an electrical transformer, you servant of Lucifer! You are just mad because I played your game better than you and you are also mad because I stood against your 256 KB stool skull self. Furthermore, my bite is MUCH worse than my bark, as evidence from your lack of courage of tracking me down in real life, just like all of the other cowards that know that, in a battle of wits, that they are completely unarmed. Your mother should have swallowed, your father should have pulled out sooner, and the best part of you ran down their legs.”

        this was in the other article. You are one of the most VILE, disgusting people I have ever encountered whether on a Christian site OR Myspace…etc… You are the FURTHEST thing from a Christian, there ever could be. Save yourself some typing and never address me again, I don’t have time for paranoid conspiracy theorists who have delusions of grandeur that they can hurt me. If I did track you down, I would slap you like the little punk you are. Navy seal, my butt. Wannabe dreamer.

      • Steven Hansmann

        Nonsense. Obviously you’ve never used cannabis. Alcohol makes you violent, not pot.

    • Mr_Amagi

      Carefully read Dorian Johnson’s description of the beginning of the encounter (below). There are little details about it that give it the ring of an authentic eyewitness account. He faults both men. He describes Officer Wilson yelling out his window to “get the f**k out of the street.” He describes the violent manner the car came behind them, nearly hitting them. He describes the escalating anger on the faces of both Brown and Wilson.

      Is that the kind of policing you would want in your community? Don’t assume the officer is telling the full truth and that his story was not helped by good lawyering. His own attitude and decisions early in the encounter may have lead to a rapid escalation of events, as surely as did Michael Brown’s attitude and decisions.

      Maybe both of them had demons. God have mercy.

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/248126858/Dorian-Johnsons-Testimony-Before-the-Grand-Jury

      • Neiman

        One eyewitness, especially since the forensic evidence and other witness evidence discredited so many of them, is hardly proof of anything. Just for the sake of conversation, let us say the police officer cursed at them and he came close to them with his car when he turned around, which has not been proven by any means: I have a black grandson whose age and physical description are eerily similar to Brown, almost identical and who has been often pulled over for driving while black, when I asked him what he would have done, he said he would have obeyed the officer and never said or done anything to make the situation worse. He knows you have to respect the police and not be confrontational. When Michael Brown became belligerent, for any reason, no matter the justification, no matter what Darren Wilson might or might not have done, Brown was in the wrong, you have to obey the police and only fight them in court later, you do not confront them or run away. Even if Wilson seemed angry it does not justify Brown resisting Wilson’s authority.

        • Mr_Amagi

          We are almost saying the same thing. Your grandson is wise to respect the police and not be confrontational because to act otherwise can be lethal. His being pulled over often just for being black is kind of the point. These kinds of shared experiences are why the black community would tend to believe Darren Johnson’s word over Officer Wilson’s. Michael Brown was very foolish to challenge Officer Wilson, but many are convinced that Officer Wilson’s actions in the early seconds constituted bad policing.

          • Neiman

            I understand what you are saying. It is unfortunate that our police officers are not perfect, they could all do better and maybe Wilson could have done better, but I still think had Michael Brown just did what he was told he would be alive and an officer’s life would not have been destroyed.

          • Mr_Amagi

            Agreed. The result of this incident was certainly demonic, a young man dead and a police officer’s career destroyed.

            Change of subject. I also have a black grandson. Hopefully our grandsons will always make wise choices, especially regarding the police.

          • Neiman

            Two things:

            1. I am so blessed that my gentle giant does not drink booze, no cigarettes, no alcohol and very little crude language and he is a Christian. His only addiction is his love for cars. I pray he will always make wise choices.

            2. I was thinking about what you have been saying and I think had Wilson tried to be less aggressive, asked the boys to get out of the street politely and when they didn’t if he had of let it go because it was not not a major crime or just stopped and started engaging the boys in a different way, maybe that too what have produced a different result.

  • http://www.imagineitincorporatedng.com/ Tessa

    Waoh

    A 14 yr old is dead and this is the best you can come up with

    Everyone on this earth is under influence of some kind
    It is either the Holy Ghost has got you
    or a demon spirit is ruling over you
    That is where decisions come from

    That doesn’t excuse killing a 14 yr old
    You could have prayed before going to work
    Or just prayed over him or shot his two legs…

    • James Grimes

      Michael Brown was an 18 year old BIG MAN who attacked a police officer.

    • Revisionist

      14 year old kid? Do people in the black community read or are they just fed race baiting urban legends to feed blacks racist mentality

    • Neiman

      Michael Brown was 18 years old.

      No one is excusing the death of Michael Brown, but rather placing the blame on his conduct that night, for whatever cause.

    • Yankie Ang

      I’m sorry but #1) Michael Brown was 18 years old #2) Police are “not” trained to shoot suspect in the legs. #3) How can you pray over a guy that’s assaulting you? The guy had stole and assaulted a person just before he confronted the police officer………….If Michael would of complied with the police orders, he would still be alive!

      • http://www.imagineitincorporatedng.com/ Tessa

        I heard that he put his hands up. Which orders did he disobey?

  • BeWhoYouAre

    I think most people would appear less crazy if they didn’t suggest every bad thing that happens is the work of “demons”. We know a lot more these days than ever before about mental illness so I don’t know why people leap to the supernatural and gloss over the more obvious things.

    • Neiman

      More proof of your rejection of God’s Word and by that, more proof of your opposing Christ and Divine Truth and thus not having any part with Him and in mortal danger.

      More lies, no one said “EVERY” bad thing is the work of demons.

      • BeWhoYouAre

        Fundamentalist Christianity is not the law here. The law is the law here. I’m not opposing Christ, as it’s been pointed out to you so many times. I’m opposing your corruption of His word.

        It isn’t a lie to say what I said, it was hyperbole. Look it up. If you can spell

        • Neiman

          For any true Christian, God’s Word, guided by the Holy Spirit is/should be their only resource in all things pertaining to life and eternity. If I have corrupted His Word, you have never proven it to be so by His Word, only your nonsensical babbling.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            If my “babbling” is nonsensical, why do you think there are so many millions of people who disagree with you? How many reasonable human beings have to tell you you’re wrong before you admit that you ARE?

          • Neiman

            If the whole world conspires against God’s Word, then I am against the whole world,. as any true Christian would. Guess what? Peter tells us that friendship with the world, agreeing and standing with the world against God’s Word is to be at enmity against God, an enemy of Christ. In other words, when you defend the world, you show you are not a child of God. Guess what again? Jesus tells us the whole world hates Him and will hate His children, does the world hate you? I don’t think so, you defend the world above God and if the world does not hate you, you are none of His children.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            All right, then if heaven is going to be full of “Christians” like you, then I have absolutely no desire to go there. Hell will absolutely be preferable. I don’t wish to spend eternity with judgemental and hateful bigots.

          • Neiman

            Hey world, it is offiial now, we have documented evidence that BeWhoYouAre is mentally unbalanced.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Thank you, that means SO much coming from someone who actually believes homosexuals “recruit” and are waiting for the chance to become pedophiles.

          • Phipps Mike

            “If the whole world conspires against God’s Word, then I am against the whole world”

            I think you missed his point….

            “why do you think there are so many millions of people who disagree with you?”

            basically, that means that how can YOU be right when so many are much more compelling with their numbers compared to just you and the teeny minority of existent fundamentalists.

          • Neiman

            Jesus said many are called, but few are chosen, many will try to force their way in, but the door will be locked. I trust God’s Word and not some researcher, although I suspect that he may be very close to the truth.

            Why am I right, I do not trust in my being right, I trust (a) In God, if we cannot Trust He who makes the promises, our search ends. (b) I stand only on His Word, not tradition, not the opinions of other men. (c) I am guided by the Holy Spirit and trust His guidance.

            I will not and need not defend my position, my trust is in God only.

          • Phipps Mike

            God locks NOBODY out that believes in him. And no, repentance is NOT needed for salvation, That’s where fundamentalism FAILS. Once saved, always saved.

          • Neiman

            I have tried on several occasions to patiently explain this to you and I don’t know whether you are just being obtuse or are willfully twisting Scripture for your own purposes.

            So this is the last time: 1. If a person does not believe themselves to be a sinner and deserving of hell, why would they seek a Savior at all? 2. Why then did God first send John the Baptist calling people to repentance to prepare the way for the Lord Jesus to come to them, if repentance for those sins was not a precondition to genuine conversion and salvation? 3. Why did Jesus preach repentance, if people could be saved with out it, why would He ask for some empty exercise of repentance after one is already saved? 4. If we are to accept your very unbiblical concept of salvation, it means that people can become members of the spiritual body of Christ while still in their sins, meaning the very body of Christ is corrupted by sin. The Bible also tells us that God is a Holy God and no one will be accepted into his presence with the slightest stain of sin.

            There is no possible justification in Holy Scripture for anyone to think that mere belief in Jesus is all that is necessary. As I told you even demons, even the devil himself believes that Jesus is the son of God and the Savior of the world, so if your doctrine is true, by that belief, they are all saved as well. You are taking passages completely out of context, it is like looking at a beautiful and complex tapestry, cutting out a very small piece and representing that as being the whole tapestry. There are just too many passages in the New Testament that speak against any immoral or sinful person ever gaining heaven and rightly twist that into saying that one need not repent and turn from their sins and just a mere belief in Christ will save them

            What you are teaching is thoroughly antichrist.

          • Phipps Mike

            “The stated purpose of the Gospel of John is to bring men to faith in Christ (20:31), yet John never once uses the word repent, not once. If repentance, when used in connection with eternal salvation, is a separate or distinct requirement from faith in Christ, then John does not give the whole gospel. And if you can believe that, you can believe anything. Speaking of the absence of John’s use of repent in His gospel, Ryrie writes:

            And yet John surely had many opportunities to use it in the events of our Lord’s life which he recorded. It would have been most appropriate to use repent or repentance in the account of the Lord’s conversation with Nicodemus. But believe is the word used (John 3:12, 15). So, If Nicodemus needed to repent, believe must be a synonym; else how could the Lord have failed to use the word repent when talking to him? To the Samaritan harlot, Christ did not say repent. He told her to ask (John 4:10), and when her testimony and the Lord’s spread to other Samaritans, John recorded not that they repented but that they believed (vss. 39, 41-42). There are about fifty more occurrences of “believe” or “faith” in the Gospel of John, but not one use of “repent.” The climax is John 20:31: “These have been written that you may believe . . . and that believing you may have life in His name.” (Charles C. Ryrie, So Great Salvation, Victor Books, p. 98).”

            https://bible.org/question/repentance-necessary-salvation

          • Neiman

            I am not going to get into a prolonged debate about this, if you believe you can be saved without repenting of your sins and I believe it is an inseparable element of faith in Christ for salvation, I wish you well. If you believe a person can be saved as a homosexual, continue in his homosexuality and be a part of the Holy Body of Christ, I wish you well.

            Too often, when it is asserted—as it is here—that repentance is not to be added to belief as a separated requirement for salvation, it is assumed that repentance is not necessary to salvation. Therefore it is as dogmatically stated as language can declare, that repentance is essential to salvation and that none could be saved apart from repentance, but it is included in believing and cannot be separated from it. (Lewis Sperry Chafer, Vital Theological Issues, Roy B. Zuck, General Editor, Kregel, Grand Rapids, 1994, p. 119).

            Which is exactly what I have been saying, Faith in Jesus as Savior and Repentance from sins are an inseparable part of saving faith.

            “Repentance is included in believing. Faith and repentance are like two sides of a coin. Genuine faith includes repentance, and genuine repentance includes faith. The Greek word for repentance (metanoia) means to change one’s mind. But to change one’s mind about what? About sin, about one’s adequacy to save himself, about Christ as the only way of salvation, the only One who can make a person righteous (“Kindred
            Spirit,” a quarterly publication of Dallas Seminary, Summer 1989, p. 5).

            If John the Baptist, anointed to bring people to a place they were ready for Jesus and His salvation called for repentance first and it is not part of saving faith, then he was a false prophet and in hell.. In every case, repentance is stated as the way to God and thus salvation. In Matthew 4, Jesus makes repentance first: “17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”

            Notice He did not say have faith first in Him, although that is surely demanded for true repentance and the faith that leads to salvation, it was not a precondition, it was not added to saving faith. It was an essential part of saving faith, the two are bound together, one without the other will save no one.

            Now that is it – accept it or not, you will answer to God, not to me. But, if you tell homosexuals or any sinner that they can just have faith, change their mind about Jesus and that will save them, without repentance from their sins, you are leading them away from Christ.

          • Phipps Mike

            ” If I have corrupted His Word, you have never proven it ”
            you HAVE done that by being contradictory. John 3:16 says for “whosoever” beleiveth in him….. NOT “except for gays”

          • Neiman

            You are falsely accusing me. I have never said nor intimated “except for gays.”

            “Whosoever” believes in him does not involve just mentally/emotionally believing Jesus exists or that he is the Son of God, as Scripture tells us that even demons do so and they tremble in fear of that knowledge. To truly believe in him demands a genuine acceptance of Jesus as both Savior and Lord. Which involves: (A) to seek Jesus as Savior, one needs to recognize their need for a Savior. (B) unless one has come to be convicted that they are a sinner and deserving of hell, why would they seek a Savior at all? (C) if one is convinced they are a sinner and deserving of hell, their first step would have to be sincere repentance for their sins. That does not just involve sorrow for those sins, but a most sincere desire to stop sinning or else, their repentance would be an empty repentance. (D) so, no matter who they are, every man and every woman is guilty of sin and whether it be a thief, an adulterer, any sexual immorality – including homosexuality, they cannot sincerely believe in Christ as their Savior and unless first they repent. That is exactly why John the Baptist came first, to prepare the way for sinners, by calling them to repentance. Without that call and with out that repentance there is no salvation and any stated belief in Christ is an empty profession..

            So I have never excluded gays from being included in the all – inclusive term “whosoever.” They are included, but as I said it cannot be just a mental or emotional belief in Christ as the Son of God or as a Savior for all sinners, the first step has to be repentance and that includes a desire to turn away from all of our sins and to Christ.

          • Phipps Mike

            “So I have never excluded gays from being included in the all – inclusive term “whosoever.”
            you keep quoting scripture that implies that ALL homosexuals who have EVER had a homosexual act will NOT be saved whether they abstain from that sin or not. You, James, and all of the others in here ALWAYS say that NO homosexual will EVER be saved even if they stop having homosexual sex. Which way are you going to have it?

          • Neiman

            I have never said NO homosexual will EVER be saved even if they stop engaging in homosexual sex. Beyond that, I stand by what I just wrote to your above. Stopping sexual immorality is not sufficient, it takes sincere admission/confession it is a sin and sincere repentance, if any such faith will save them.

            Gays that truly confess their homosexual acts are sin, may if sincerely repentant for those sins, be saved; and yet, they may still struggle for a long time with those desires, as all Christians struggle with sinful desires. They may sometimes fall back into those sins, as do all Christians fall back into old sinful conduct. But, first they will never justify their sins before God or man, having sincere sorrow for their failures and then upon sincere repentance for their failure, they have an Advocate in Jesus that will represent them before God and by faith, His blood will keep them holy and in right relationship with God.

          • KenS

            Amen, it would be like an alcoholic that has become a christian and then slips and starts drinking again, he will feel conviction from the Holy spirit each time he takes another drink, if he respondds to that conviction and repents all is well, if he doesnt then God will chasten him, if after repeated chastisement from God, he still doesnt repent, God may choose to take him home to Heaven early by death, in order to protect his testimony.

          • Neiman

            The key here is have they come to the conviction that homosexual conduct is a sin, repented (turned from those sins) and accepted Jesus as their Savior, then you are right. If they think they can be saved and not agree with God homosexual conduct is a sin, sadly they are deceived and it is the down escalator.

          • KenS

            That is not true. Once a sinner has recieved salvation through Christ, all his sins, past, present and future have been covered under His blood, this includes murder, homosexual acts, lying, stealing, etc. When Paul gave us a list of sins that will keep you from heaven he listed stealing, lying, homosexual acts, and many others and then he turned around and said that these carnal christians who were still partaking in these sins were (past tense) these sinners, but that they have been cleansed by HIs blood and were no longer bound by those sins, therefore he was tellingthem that all they needed to do to quit these before mentioned sins was to use the Holy spirit that resided in them to fight/flee from these sins and the way to achive such victory over sin is to read your bible, ask for the daily filling of the Holy Spirit and to separate yourself from the sin.

      • James Grimes

        The guy who is babbling his nonsense to you claims that his “bible” has 73 books.

        • Neiman

          He also relies heavily on tradition and men to tell him what is right or wrong, not God’s Word. I was readying recently where the Holy Spirit said that those that rely on traditions over God’s Word are building wrath for themselves.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            You’re one to talk about God’s wrath, tearing seven entire books out of your Bible and spewing hate at homosexuals, women and “liberals.”

          • Neiman

            Why must you lie all the time?

            I have torn no books out of the Bible, unless you mean the Roman Catholic Bible which is not God’s Word at all. I have said over and over I do not hate homosexuals – you do. I hate their sin because it will destroy their souls and I love them enough to suffer their and your attacks and hate, if only one might repent and find salvation. You would rather see them in hell than tell them their sexual lifestyle is hated by God and that they need to repent. No, I do not hate homosexuals, but you do. I do not hate women or liberals, I hate that liberals are mostly enemies of Christ, I hate their sins against God by their anti-Christ laws and policies, but hate no one. I do not hate women.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            The original Bible had 73 books. Fact. Luther separated them and then you removed them. You hate homosexuals because you are a fundie bigot, you ignore the science and use the Bible to justify your own vile hate. You are the one attacking them. They are not interested in attacking you or anyone else, they just want to live their lives unmolested by fundie jerks.

          • pax2u

            “We are OBLIGED to yield many things to the Papists–that with them is the Word of God, which we RECEIVED from them; otherwise we should have known nothing at all about it.”- Martin Luther

          • Neiman

            Like I said, I am no particular fan of Luther, I know in his heart he had strong ties to Rome even after the Reformation. I disagree with him on many things, not the least of which is this false idea that we got the Bible through the Roman Catholic Church.

          • pax2u

            do you agree with his changing of the Bible to match his agenda or his hatred of Jews?

          • Neiman

            I am satisfied that the Bible we have, not the pagan Catholic Bible, is the true canon of Holy Scripture, it is full, complete and it is not at all antisemitic.

          • pax2u

            I am very satisfied that you belong to no denomination

            the hateful and bigoted anti Catholic lunatic fringe are always alone, you have Luther, his bible, and his hatred of Jews

          • Phipps Mike

            Catholics dont like Jews either. Jews dont believe in Jesus’ immaculate conception but Catholics DO. I think you barked up the wrong tree. If you are Catholic, your religion is against the Jewish religion.

          • pax2u

            Pope Francis: Breaking New Ground in Jewish-Catholic Relations (11

            The Holy Father’s friendships and strong tradition of dialogue with Jewish leaders are already having an impact, building on the foundation provided by previous popes.

            by PETER JESSERER SMITH 11/08/2013

            President Shimon Peres of Israel meets with Pope Francis at the Vatican on April 30.

            NEW YORK — The bonds between Jews and Catholics have never been stronger in the Church’s 2,000-year history, but some Jewish leaders say that, with Pope Francis, the best is about to get even better.

            Blessed Pope John XXIII reset Catholic-Jewish relations in the 1960s, seeking to reconcile the grievances of the past, in which Catholics had treated Jews less like beloved brothers and more like strangers — or worse, as enemies. The Church approved that outreach in 1965 at the Second Vatican Council with the document Nostra Aetate, and Popes Paul VI, Blessed John Paul II and Benedict XVI all continued efforts to deepen those relations.

          • pax2u

            from the Times of Israel

            Pope Francis renews commitment to Catholic-Jewish relations

            Church views the Jewish people in ‘special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked,’ says pontiff

            Pope Francis’s renewed commitment to fostering relations between Catholics and Jews and condemning anti-Semitism has drawn praise.

            In “Evangelii Gaudium” (The Joy of the Gospel), a 224-page document outlining his vision of the church and its mission that was released this week, Francis praised the current state of Jewish-Catholic relations and expressed regret for past – and continuing – anti-Jewish actions.

            “Dialogue and friendship with the children of Israel are part of the life of Jesus’ disciples,” Francis wrote in the document. “The friendship which has grown between us makes us bitterly and sincerely regret the terrible persecutions which they have endured, and continue to endure, especially those that have involved Christians.”

            The Catholic Church, Francis wrote, holds “the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked.”

            Rabbi David Rosen, the International Director of Interreligious Affairs for the American Jewish Committee, praised the pope’s “emphasis on the importance of interreligious dialogue to promote peace in the world and as a means to ‘learn to accept others and their differen(ces),’” as “powerful encouragement for greater respect and harmony in our world.

          • James Grimes

            He does not believe that God’s Word is infallible, inerrant, or absolute. His nonsense disregards what God has spoken. His Atheism clouds good judgment. He feels that he is being picked on. What he doesn’t realize is that he holds to Atheist beliefs.

          • Neiman

            I have tried so many times to tell him that if we cannot stand on God’s Word alone, we have no sure foundation. We cannot trust in tradition, liturgies, sacraments, penance or anything but God’s Grace. But he has this passion for the RCC, he stands with the world in every possible situation and he is so filled with hate for bible believing Christians that he calls fundamentalists, that all these things together are proof, just as you suggested, that he is for all practical purposes an atheist. Only God can wake him up, I hope and pray it will be before it is too late.

          • James Grimes

            There is nothing wrong with your theology. The problem is his. I’m not going to waste any more time with him; my last comment to him was my final one. I do love his retorts though; they are very entertaining.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            As for you James Grimy, stop being a hypocrite. If you say you aren’t going to waste any more time with me, stop discussing me. A little truth goes a long way. And there’s nothing entertaining at ALL about what you write – hatred is hatred.

          • Neiman

            Talking to me about you is not being hypocritical.

            You are the one filled with hatred, rather than risk offending homosexuals by calling their lifestyle a sin that some might repent, is seems you would rather see them suffering without end in hell and that is HATE. You hate Christ as you consistently stand with this evil world and against His Word, you do not love Him more than your life, you do not love Him more than you do the praise of men, because you seem so tolerant of sin, to men that are dying in their sins just like you.

            As to your acccusations about throwing out books of the Bible and your seething hatred of Luther and all Protestants, especially bible believing Christians, you are incapable of reason on such matters and it would be a waste of time.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Talking to you about me and saying that he’s done talking about me is ABSOLUTELY hypocritical.

            They’re not GOING to suffer in hell, that’s the BS story you’re giving them and making them think God hates them because their attractions can only be same-sex ones. That’s ridiculous and cruel in the extreme. Yes, you’re the hateful one. I’m saying leave them alone and you’re insisting on beating them over the head with your Bible and your hate and your misinformation.

            I said nothing about hating Luther. I wish you’d quit misquoting me and accusing me of baseless nonsense. I said Luther SEPARATED the deuterocanonical texts. It was one of your fundie heroes who chopped them out.

          • Neiman

            A. I never said nor ever intimated God hates gays.
            B. There are just too many passages of Holy Scripture that tells us that no sexually immoral person will gain heaven and God has set aside special condemnation for those involved in homosexuality, which he compares to idolatry. If they do not gain heaven, they will surely go to hell.
            C. Gays can repent of their sexually depraved lifestyle choice, turn to Christ and be saved, but not if they do not repent and do not seek deliverance from their homosexual desires.
            D. God did not calls His children to leave sinners alone, but to call all men to repentance by exposing sin and leading then to Christ. Refusing to condemn all sexual immorality and that includes homosexuality, means it is you that hate these precious souls and do not care if they go to hell.
            E. If you do not love Luther, if you keep raging against him, then you hate him.

            F. Those books were never part of the canon of Scripture and were included in the wicked Catholic Bible, as that false Church has always been steeped in paganism.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            A. You throw out words like perverts and sodomites left and right. You ABSOLUTELY think God hates gay people.
            B. You do not get to define what “sexually immoral” means.
            C. It is not a “sexually depraved lifestyle choice” – I REALLY wish could get a statement out without trying to sneak in hateful statements – and you are not God and you do not speak for God, and your beliefs in this case are about as backwards from what God should want than I can imagine.
            D. See B. You do not get to define “sexually immoral”. I would define “sexually immoral” as things that are done against another person’s will. Homosexual relationships are consensual and harm no one. Therefore for you to include them in your “sexually immoral” list is irresponsible and a blatant hateful statement.
            E. I haven’t raged against Luther. My entire comment regarding Luther was that he separated the deuterocanonical books. He didn’t discard them as you did.
            F. Those books were ABSOLUTELY part of the canon of scriptures for over 1100 years.

          • pax2u

            speaking of hatred, how about Martin Luther’s hatred of Jews in his book “on the Jews and their lies”?

            “First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his SON and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly ­ and I myself was unaware of it will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.”

            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html

          • Neiman

            Yes I know that Martin Luther was passionately antisemitic, what is your point? I am no Lutheran and am only grateful that he stood up to Rome in the matter of salvation by faith alone, by grace. Other than that, I have no special regard for him.

          • pax2u

            Luther decided to change the Bible as he also hated the Jewish people

            do you have a denomination? or are you alone?

          • Neiman

            I answered your Luther hating post elsewhere.

            I am since my new spiritual birth in Christ Jesus, a member of the only true Christian Church – the Body of Christ, the only Church Jesus ever mentions as His Church. I fellowship with true believers in more than one Christian denomination, but have never joined any as a member, because anything man makes is flawed and I will never blanket endorse any such man made organizations.

          • pax2u

            Luther changed the Bible to fit his agenda, and wrote of his hatred of Jews

            I am always thankful that the anti Catholic lunatic fringe never have a denomination which will accept their hatred

          • Neiman

            A. There is no hatred, that is in your diseased mind, it is not fact. B. With my beliefs, I could easily join and be part of many Protestant denominations. C. Unlike you, I only have membership in one Church, the only true Church, the Body of Christ. Too bad you don’t!

          • pax2u

            Luther removed books from the Jewish Old Testament to make his own version of the Bible, is that why you call the Catholic Bible pagan, for including Jewish books that Luther removed, do you believe that the Jewish books were pagan, do you really believe that Jews are pagan, or just their books?

            But it makes sense for Luther to remove Jewish books, as he hated the Jews, and wrote is book, “on the Jews and their Lies”

            Do you hate both the Catholic Church and Judaism

            It is best that you are alone with your hatred

          • Neiman

            Pagan origins: http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html

            Any charge of hatred by me are made up in your rather diseased mind.

            Luther and antisemitism: http://www.gotquestions.org/Martin-Luther-anti-semitic.html

            Actually I am partly Jewish as to blood, but a Christian as to faith. I hold a special place in my heart for the Chosen People and Israel.

          • pax2u

            sad that if you are part Jewish that you would defend an anti Semite who hated Jews and removed Jewish books from the Bible that you now call pagan

          • Neiman

            I simply denied your lies about me being antisemitic.

          • pax2u

            why do you defend Martin Luther and say that the Jewish books of the Old Testament that he removed are pagan?

          • Neiman

            I never said any such thing, you are, as is your habit, lying. Doesn’t that make you an habitual liar?

          • pax2u

            why do you say that a Jewish website lies when it exposes Martin Luther as an AntiSemite

          • Neiman

            Tell me, have you always been an habitual liar? I never responded at all to the Jewish website. I said I was not antisemitic. I admitted Luther was antisemitic. All of this many times, but all you can do is keep repeating lies. All it testifies to is your lying nature and says nothing about me at all.

          • pax2u

            sad that you hate Jews and Catholics

            but it is no surprise that you have no denomination, and for that I am grateful

          • James Grimes

            Don’t waste your time with him. All he knows is hate.

          • Neiman

            He really is filled with hate and that comes with the territory of being a Bible believing Christian, people are going to hate the truth and the messenger. What bothers me the most is when someone lies about my positions.

            Anyway, under another thread I told him that until he stops lying and decides to debate honestly and civilly, I was going to ignore him.

          • James Grimes

            There is a common saying: if you want to make a Conservative angry, tell him a lie; if you want to make a Liberal angry, tell him the truth. I guess this would apply to Atheists and pseudo-Christians as well.

          • pax2u

            so do you defend Luther’s antisemitism?

            do you think that the Jewish website that I linked that condemns Luther is a hate site?

          • Neiman

            Exactly what words did I use that gives you the slightest justification for such a statement?

          • pax2u

            You say that I made a Luther hating post,

            I posted the horrible book of Luther’s “on the Jews and their Lies”

            you defend the anti Jewish Luther,

            the link I posted from was a Jewish website, was that a hate post?

          • Neiman

            So you’ve got nothing but lies, thanks for admitting it!

          • pax2u

            so you call this Jewish website lies?

            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Luther_on_Jews.html

            you defend a anti Semite, Martin Luther, and call Jewish books of the old testament Pagan

            very sad, but since you hate the Catholic Church and Judaism I understand why you are alone

          • Neiman

            You are sinning against me, bearing false witness, as your every word against me above are based on lies, the natural products of your rather diseased mind.

          • pax2u

            you are sinning against the Catholic and Jewish people in your defense of an Anti Semite, and calling the Jewish books of the Catholic Old Testament “pagan”

            It is best that you have no denomination

          • Neiman

            Hold on to your lies, it is all you have, it is the very heart of you. You are the spitting image of your father, who was a liar from the beginning and the truth was not in him.

          • pax2u

            sad that you are alone, with out a denomination and your defense of the Anti Semitic Martin Luther and his sick book “on the Jews and their Lies” and saying that a Jewish website lies, or that the Jewish books of the Old Testament that Martin Luther removed were pagan

          • pax2u

            I doubt if Neumannnn the postman grimy Jimmy have a denomination and their theology is to lie about the beliefs of Christians

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Grimy keeps telling me he’s done with me then proceeds to trash talk me to like-minded bigots. And guess what, he’s NOT a hypocrite.

          • pax2u

            fortunately the lunatic fringe is very small and they must attack others to justify the insecurity that they have in their own theology

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Lunatic fringe is right. This forum is absolutely crawling with hateful fundamentalists. And when you point out their hate, their only response is to call you hateful right back, even though you aren’t the one condemning, judging or trashing anyone. I have no patience for these d-bags.

          • pax2u

            thankfully they are always alone, no denomination would accept their hatred and bigotry

          • James Grimes

            Notice below the non-Christian response I got from the clown. He thinks I hate him, but I don’t. I just think his comments and his non-Christian attitude are pathetic. Anyhow, on to more important topics.

          • Neiman

            It is sad, I truly pity him, he is without any shadow of a doubt an enemy of Christ, His Church and Divine Truth. There is nothing so terrible to behold than an out and out apostate/atheist, a man falsely and I am sure sincerely, thinking he is a Christian; but, who is actually bound body and soul to this world, a world which is at enmity with Christ and under the power of Satan. In the Revelations of Jesus Christ, 3:9, Jesus talks bout those who claim to be members of the family of God, but who are not, as being part of the Synagogue of Satan and He promises He will make them on the Last Days bow down to the true children of God.

            As for you and his accusations, he will never understand that God hates sin, because it separates precious souls from Him and that it is actually in His love for the lost that you speak against sin that, perhaps a few will listen, turn, repent and find God. We Christians are to hate sin, first in ourselves and then the world, in imitation of our Lord who speaks in Revelations more than once of His strong hatred of sin, especially sexual immorality, which includes homosexuality. Yet, also like Him we are to have His genuine love for the lost, seeking to call men to repentance and to Christ for His salvation.

            I am often guilty of engaging people such as this fellow far too long, when the Lord would have me stop, shake the dust off my feet and leave them to Satan that perhaps they might when wallowing in the slop of their own evil, like the Prodigal, turn for home.

          • James Grimes

            Thank you for the kind reply. I especially like your statement, “We Christians are to hate sin, first in ourselves and then the world…” First, we must look inward and cleanse ourselves. I must always keep that in mind when dealing with apostates.

          • Phipps Mike

            James, the problem with you and ALL fundamentalists, is that its all or nothing for you. You say that ALL people who are non fundamentalists are not Christians at ALL. That is not even close to being right. There are how many denominations of Christianity including Catholic? Christianity is not defined in having a prerequisite of believing the Bible is 100% factual. I don’t know WHERE you get that silly notion. The other fault you have is that you think atheists are in cahoots with the devil. That’s nonsense. You have to believe in GOD before you can believe in the devil.

        • BeWhoYouAre

          Are you too cowardly to address me directly, is that it? If you don’t want your hateful diatribe to be exposed for the crap it is, don’t say it at all. Simple.

    • http://google.com IntheCustodyofCarl’sJr.

      I disagree with you on most things, but I think you have a point. It seems that on sites like this all one has to do is say “demon” and everyone jumps on board.

      • BeWhoYouAre

        Yes. It’s a word people use to attack each other with, nothing more.

  • http://www.TrumpetCallofGodOnline.com Christopher Underwood

    In this time of famine, their hearts have hardened,
    And in them a heart like a beast has taken form…

    Yea, they are not alone, wickedness dwells there…

    And like a beast in the wilderness, who is without inhibition,
    As one who has no master, they lash out without thought or consideration.

    Behold! They stalk their prey and attack their neighbor, without cause! They bear false witness against their neighbor and slander their own brother!… They seek justice without cause! Therefore shall MY justice be swift, MY judgment shall fall hard upon them! FOR I AM COME OUT!
    Behold! I am come down to make of them a great slaughter! For The God of Heaven, The Lord over all the Earth, shall punish them! I shall strike this world for its iniquity, severely oppressing every inhabitant in My judgment! The whole world shall be struck in My fierce indignation! Says The Lord.
    For the wicked gather like locusts, and their sin spreads forth like a swarm, devouring and polluting the land! Therefore shall their pain be great, and their affliction intolerable!… And who will be able to endure it?!
    Their distress shall surpass Egypt, as in the days of Moses, when I severely afflicted them! Behold! They shall choke in their affliction! They shall gasp for air in their distress!… Until darkness comes to claim them.

    For the wicked increase in their iniquity everyday,
    And their sin is always before My face!

    See how they do revel in it, look at how they bask in it!…

    To their own destruction!

    For they have all become as brute beasts!
    They have made themselves fully worthy!…

    Yes, they are worthy and made ready!…

    THEY ARE PREPARED FOR THE SLAUGHTER!

    Thus says The God of Heaven, The Lord over all creation: My hand is stretched out and shall not be withdrawn!… Until the light of His eyes burns bright in the fierceness of His wrath! Until the sword of His mouth strikes them down!… Until His robe is fully dipped in blood, and it is finished…

    Strike them down!…

    Devour them in the brightness of Your coming, O Immanu El!
    Plunder the Earth, devour the prey, and consume the wicked!

    Punish the kings of the Earth! Destroy all their devices!…

    Defend Your people, and take Your vengeance
    Upon all Your enemies, until they are no more!
    Let this great multitude and their tumultuous noise be silenced!

    Strike down the host of the high ones!…

    Consume them by the power of Your name,
    And in the brightness of Your coming!
    Tear all the terrible ones in pieces, O God!

    Judge the earth, O King of Kings!…

    Behold, the whole Earth is made Your footstool.

    Says YaHuWaH.

    [Excerpt from http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Thus_Says_The_God_of_Judgment%5D

    ~ Modern Scripture Spoken to This Generation… Hear The Word of The Lord! http://www.TrumpetCallofGodOnline.com ~

    • http://google.com IntheCustodyofCarl’sJr.

      whuuuuut?

  • jennylynn

    Satan is busy. In Matthew 24:9 it says, “for nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom…. Nation in the Greek is (ethnos) or races agains races. Now Isis wants to use this for people to behead one anther. Very satanic and prophetic.
    Vs. 12 “and because lawlessness is increased most peoples love will grow cold.

    ISIS & CAIR EXPLOIT FERGUSON RIOTS TO PROMOTE ‘RESISTANCE’ IN U.S.

    While CAIR officials encourage ‘resistance,’ ISIS is urging rioters to murder and behead police and political figures. More @ http://www.theclarionproject

  • BarkingDawg

    So that is his justification for shooting? That the boy was possessed by demons?

    • Phipps Mike

      the way the fundamentalists want to always say that EVERYBODY who sins that isnt a fundamentalist is indeed minions of the devil, is it surprising? lol I think he was probably looking wide eyed from being SCARED that a gun was pointed at him. I do think though that he would still be alive if he had just followed orders.

  • Steven Hansmann

    So, Wilson, 28 years old, at six foot four, two hundred and ten pounds, trained in self-defense, in a car, armed with a shotgun and pistol, assuredly a taser, a baton, a radio, has to kill an unarmed six foot three 300 pound 18 year-old because he was…..afraid?

    • James Grimes

      I know you want this to be true, but it isn’t. I know you want to vilify Darren Wilson, but it isn’t going to fly on this forum. I know you want to sound like you are concerned, but we know that you are anti-Christian and that you hate justice. In the end, your comment is meaningless. The Grand Jury has determined otherwise.

    • Phipps Mike

      he didnt have a taser and in fact there was only ONE taser available for that WHOLE dept.

      • Steven Hansmann

        Wilson is six foot four, 210 pounds, and theoretically at least, trained in unarmed as well as armed combat. Yet he crapped his pants because an 18 year-old swung at him and reached in the car? What a pussy. Maybe we breed better, braver, and more professional police officers up here in Minnesota. Then there’s Wilson’s ties to the KKK. Well, he can get a job with them I guess. He’ll never be a policeman again, even in the inbred south.

        • Phipps Mike

          my comment was to only point out that there wasnt a taser on him.

  • http://GREATSITE.COM/ John Lawton Jeffcoat III

    Why are they not prosecuting all of those so-called “witnesses” for lying and trying to put this innocent man in jail, just because he is white?
    Isn’t perjury still a serious crime?
    Isn’t bearing false witness a crime?
    It’s time to stop coddling these evil racist “witnesses” and forgiving their false allegations.
    It is surreal to watch these low-class people burn their own town to the ground because they are furiously protesting justice in a blind rage, and falsely calling justice “racism”.
    “PANTS UP! DON’T LOOT!”

  • Mathew

    Of course it makes perfect sense… oh wait no it doesn’t, since demons are about as real as the tooth fairy.