Court Orders School District to Pay $75,000 for Denying Boy Use of Girls’ Restroom

MainesAUGUSTA, Maine — A superior court has ordered a Maine school district to pay $75,000 to the attorneys of a male student who identifies as a female after it was declared that officials discriminated against him by denying the use of the girls’ restroom.

As previously reported, Wyatt Maines is an identical twin who, according to his parents, has exhibited feminine behavior since he was a preschooler. By the time he reached fifth grade, Wyatt legally changed his name to “Nicole,” let his hair grow long, and began regularly wearing feminine clothing.

During that same time period, Wyatt also started using the girls’ restrooms at Asa Adams Elementary School, which disturbed some of the other students. In late 2007, a student’s grandfather voiced his concern to school officials, and the superintendent asked Wyatt to instead use a unisex staff bathroom instead of the main girls’ restroom.

However, Wyatt’s parents—Wayne and Kelly Maines—were unhappy with the superintendent’s request. So, in early 2008, they hired a lawyer and filed a lawsuit against the elementary school, claiming the bathroom policy unfairly discriminated against their child. The case has been battled all the way to Maine’s highest court.

After previous court rulings had concluded that the school district had acted within the law, the Maine Supreme Court sided with the Maines family this past February, stating that the now 16-year-old student should have been accommodated for his mental health’s sake. Maines was later diagnosed with gender dysphoria following the 2007 incident.

“Decisions about how to address students’ legitimate gender identity issues are not to be taken lightly,” Justice Warren Silver wrote on behalf of the majority. “Where, as here, it has been clearly established that a student’s psychological well-being and educational success depend upon being permitted to use the communal bathroom consistent with her gender identity, denying access to the appropriate bathroom constitutes sexual orientation discrimination.”

He said, however, that the court’s opinion “must not be read to require schools to permit students casual access to any bathroom of their choice.”

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The Penobscot County Superior Court has now issued a final order in the matter, prohibiting the school district “from refusing access by transgender students to school restrooms that are consistent with their gender identity.” The court also awarded Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders (GLAD), as well as another local law firm, the amount of $75,000–payable by the district.

“A significant portion of the monetary award will go to the Maines’ family,” Carisa Cunningham, spokeswoman for GLAD, told the Bangor Daily News.

But, as previously reported, Christian and family groups have been expressing concerns over the ramifications of the matter. Matthew McReynolds of the Pacific Justice Institute said that although there are limits to the ruling, it could be used in other states to push a radical agenda.

“On its face, the Maine ruling is limited to that state and is further limited to students with a diagnosed gender identity disorder or dysphoria,” he told Christian News Network. “The concern, though, is that activist judges, politicians and school officials around the country will try to expand and apply this reasoning, regardless of how thin the legal basis may be for doing so.”


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  • Gary

    Why don’t they treat the kid’s mental illness instead of making all the girls suffer?

  • Gary

    Why don’t they treat the kid’s mental illness instead of making all the girls suffer?

    • BeWhoYouAre

      Because it’s not a mental illness, you bigot. Hasn’t been classified as such in about 40 years or more. But by all means go on living in the past.

      • Mike Aranda

        Bigot lol typical liberal

        • BeWhoYouAre

          No, just don’t see why hate and name calling are necessary.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Says the hateful, name-calling member of the Gaystapo. 🙂

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Standing up for gay people doesn’t make me gay, just as standing up against hateful bigots doesn’t make me a hateful bigot. You fundie zealots use really convoluted logic.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Yes, and calling others “hateful bigots” and “fundie zealots” is not name-calling or demonstrating your hateful bigoted-ness either – LOL. Because in your unreal “reality,” he is a she. 🙂 What is deliciously ironic is that your moniker “BeWhoYouAre” is self-refuting. You aren’t who you are. You are who you want to be – despite all evidence to the contrary. You are the lunatic walking around trying to convince others that you are Ghandi. God bless you, keep you, and Lord, help you! I am praying you will leave the Gaystapo before all the hatred eats you up inside.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Yeah yeah. Why don’t you go wave some snakes around or something. Pray for yourself, you need it far more than I do.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            But, Be, I LOVE you. And, I hate to see you self-mutilate and commit intellectual suicide. God created you for a purpose, and being in the Gaystapo is not it. He loves you and wants you back. You can find Him through Jesus. (“I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” John 14:6) God bless you, Be!

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I don’t self-mutilate, I’m not gay or transgendered, and I don’t need help at the moment. I just don’t pass judgement on people due to their orientations, it’s none of my business for one thing and it’s not my place to judge.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh, but you do judge, Be, you do! You have judged many people on this story with your hateful name-calling. The biggest hypocrite of all is the one, like you, who judges and name-calls and then says you don’t judge. Jesus didn’t have a lot of good stuff to say about hypocrites, Be. God bless you, Be – we want you to return to the flock!

          • Gary

            You have to be a member of the flock before you can return to it. He has never been a member.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Excellent point, Gary – thank you! I am really praying for Be and Jeff: it takes a lot of courage for them to come onto a Christian site, and perhaps they are seekers? Or mockers, but either way, they are worthy of their prayers. If God could catch these two fish, what a story that would make!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Allen/1230115147 Daniel Allen

            Are you able to tell a male from a female?

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Outwardly, of course, but there’s more than that going on here. I think the solution that works for everybody here is to give the kid access to a self-contained bathroom where he doesn’t make anyone uncomfortable.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Look, if you don’t want to be called out as a hateful bigot, don’t say hateful bigoted things, especially in the name of God who doesn’t hate. It’s wrong of you, it hurts others, it’s judgemental, and damages your reputation.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Look, if you don’t want to be called out as a hateful bigot, don’t say hateful bigoted things, especially in the name of God who doesn’t hate. It’s wrong of you, it hurts others, it’s judgemental, and damages your reputation.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Look, if you don’t want to be called out as a hateful bigot, Gaystapo, and Christian-phobe, don’t say hateful bigoted things, especially in the name of the devil whom you worship. It’s wrong of you, it hurts others, it’s judgemental, and damages your reputation.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Wow, that’s quite a gift you have that you’re able to determine that people are devil worshipers simply because they defend gay people against Christian bigots and haters. Do you use this gift in your daily life? Do you and your fellow Klan members discuss it on wash day when you’re waiting for your sheets to dry?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            The Klan was formed by your party, Be: the Democrats. That is the party that fought for the “right” to own black people and the “right” to kill babies in the womb. What a record – you should be so “proud!”

          • BeWhoYouAre

            But I don’t live in your country at all, WorldGoneFundie. Where I live, there IS no KKK, no Pat Robertson, no Westboro Baptist Church, no Hobby Lobby, no Focus on the Family, no Jerry Falwell. All your heroes are thankfully nowhere near me. But by all means, keep making wild swings in the dark, the law of averages says you might be right about something someday. But why let facts get in the way of fundamentalism, right?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Well, there is your fundamentalism, Be: you are FUNDAMENTALLY against fundamentalism! That is your self-refuting, absurdist insanity. You are arguing against yourself and don’t even know it. Self-contradiction is not a virtue, Be. There are nice padded cells for such as you. 🙂 I praise God that you do not live in the US! We already have enough liberal fascists over here.
            Continue to hold to your liberal fundamentalism of all that is wicked, Be: abortion, gay “marriage,” self-mutilation, etc. There is hope for you in Christ Jesus! (And He is a he, not a she! I have to explain that for you, don’t I?!?) We are all praying for you here. God bless!

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Yeah, I tend to be that way against doctrines that go along the lines of, “Do it my way or I’ll shoot you in the head.” But of course it’s me who belongs in the padded cell, right? Because I think people should be free to live lives free of religious tyranny and bigotry?

            And what the hell is a “liberal fascist”? The two words are opposite from each other. But you’re no stranger to these patent absurdities so keep those blinders on! Well done you!

          • anonymous

            Sorry, but God does hate. He hates abominations, which is what this child has become, unfortunately. And let’s get something straight. God is not “love”, he is justice and holy. The angels that surround his throne do not sing “love, love, love”, they sing “holy, holy, holy”.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            That’s funny, my whole life I was told that God is love and not someone that attacks people based on their natural attractions. You’d think He’d be too busy trying to sort out marginally more important things like ISIS and Ebola, but no, I guess what goes on in our bedrooms is more important.

          • anonymous

            Instead of relying on “what you were told”, you should read the Bible.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I did. Many times. And still do. So where are you getting all this hateful crap from?

          • anonymous

            No, it’s painfully obvious that you’ve NEVER read the Bible. If you had, you wouldn’t think the way you do.

          • Lynda

            There are many things people need to repent of and here are some of them.

            Proverbs chapter six.

            Therefore shall his calamity come suddenly;
            suddenly shall he be broken without remedy.

            16 These six things doth the Lord hate:
            yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
            17 a proud look, a lying tongue,
            and hands that shed innocent blood,
            18 an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
            feet that be swift in running to mischief,
            19 a false witness that speaketh lies,
            and he that soweth discord among brethren.

            Proverbs chapter six.

          • http://www.HomeschoolingAdventurez.com/ Kelli- HSAdventurez

            I’m sorry, I must say – God does not call the person an abomination, He speaks to the sin itself. I don’t disagree with everything you’ve said. But, it’s important to remember that not only did Jesus die for this child, but He would have gone to the cross for this child if they were the only one on the planet. God LOVES each and every person. He simply allows them to make their own choices as to serve or reject Him. We are not worthy to throw the first stone. Speak truth, yes, in love. Jesus would not call this child an abomination. I’m not ignoring Scripture, just applying it to sin, not individuals, especially children. I have a close friend who is gay & he asked me a few years ago if he was going to hell because he is . . . my answer is from God’s Word “ABSOLUTELY NOT – You will only go there for rejecting God’s gift of salvation – Jesus Christ” I was not about to tell this man (who believes that he has had no choice in the matter) that he had no hope in Jesus. I was able then to go on & share the truth with him – the truth of God’s love, forgiveness,& healing. I told him the truth about what God says on the subject, but offered him hope in Jesus. If I were sitting in front of this child today, I would not throw stones. I would open my arms and say that Jesus loves & died for them. Once they give their heart & life to the King of Kings – He will work out whatever needs working out in their life. He is big enough to handle that job. We can trust him with it. Walk like Jesus did – imagine yourself as Jesus – standing beside that child (or the woman at the well) WWJD? I think we know the answer to that.

          • Lynda

            1 John 4:8

            He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love

            However God is also Holy and merciful. He offers forgiveness and salvation to all who repent and turn to Him.

            Acts 3:19

            Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

          • The Last Trump

            It’s a sad day when using your own common sense in keeping boys and girls restrooms segregated is considered “hate”. Absolutely shameful disregard for those girls who’s right to privacy has been victimized by the LGBT militants. They simply have no shame. Disgraceful.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I never said any of that. It’s a complicated issue and I don’t know the best solution. But if someone’s transgender I don’t think it’s a good idea to call them perverts and evil sinners because clearly that’s not what they are. What IS shameful and disgraceful is using the Bible to beat these people up.

          • anonymous

            We don’t use the Bible to beat people up. But that’s the thing, the truth will set you free, but first it’s gonna piss you off.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            That is no “truth” at all, that’s a twisting of the Bible to suit your needs. As the old saying goes, “You know you’ve created God in your image when he hates the same things you do.”

          • anonymous

            It’s not twisting the Bible. It clearly states it in Romans 1:25-32 what it is that God hates and in his law is punishable by death.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            If you’re going to take those kind of things literally now then you’ve got big problems. Do you walk around killing people who do things you think the Bible takes issue with?

          • anonymous

            That’s the oldest argument used against the Bible. “Don’t take it literally, it’s just a bunch of fairy tales.” If you indeed have read the Bible, as you say you have(which is questionable), and if you look at the big picture of the world today, you would see that now more than ever the Bible IS the word of the living God, and that we must obey it. I’m not saying I’m perfect, far from it, but being born male and wanting to be female is unnatural. And winning a court case because of it makes things worse.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            You are clearly a Bible literalist, and a fundamentalist Christian. I’m a Christian who understands things like allegory and that a talking snake for example is a physical impossibility.

            “being born male and wanting to be female is unnatural” Sure. To you and to me. But not to other people. Shouldn’t we try to understand them, or do you really think it’s best to kill them because God says it’s an abomination? And anyway polyester and eyeglasses are unnatural too.

          • anonymous

            It’s not up to us to understand them. They don’t have to repent to us, they have to repent to God. The only thing we can do is try to show them the error of their ways. As for physical impossibilities, I’m sorry, but that shows a lack of faith in the almighty God on your part.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            God can do a lot of things but He can’t change a person’s sexuality. This isn’t about God, this is about allowing people to be comfortable in their own skin without trying to change them, judge them or kill them.

          • anonymous

            So I guess, as a christian, you missed the part about saving souls by bringing them to Christ? It doesn’t matter if they’re comfortable, it’s wrong. Sodom & Gomorrah were pretty comfortable too, until God brought his judgement.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            So then SAVE his soul by bringing him to Christ, it’s not going to affect his gender identity or attraction one little bit! Why would God make someone this way just to kill them?

          • anonymous

            Wow!? I am done with you sir. You are not a christian if you believe that this person can come to Christ in their current state. Good bye.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            And you are not a human being if you try to turn someone into something they cannot be. Good day.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Good try, Anonymous! You really hung in there with him. Yes, indeed, it is most un-loving to stand aside, watch someone headed for the Cliff (and into the Abyss) and not say anything except “I love you, I would never judge you, and you are doing just fine!” Good try, good effort, and just keep praying for Be and also for Jeff on this page. God bless you for caring enough to try to keep someone from falling for a false “gospel.”

          • phone2000

            even though I do not think the bible applies in this situation I will tell you there are many ex gays and ex trans genders….God can restore someone to their original intended way of being….heal their sexuality….homosexuality and all the other sexualities are not normal or from God

          • BeWhoYouAre

            No, I’m sorry, that is false. You cannot alter your sexuality.

          • phone2000

            this is not about the bible..and the bible was written for Christians so there is no relevant scripture to this situation but there is common sense and morals and the law…women do not want men in their showers or locker rooms or restrooms….

          • Cosmic Mastermind

            Poe detected.

          • phone2000

            they are not using the bible they are using the law and common sense…women do not want men in their restrooms or showers period…even if they have long hair

          • xobamab

            Don’t agree with something. and right away it’s termed “HATE” … By the way you are the one that is doing the name calling that you so much object to. typical Liberal.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            You guys toss this word “liberal” around like it’s some sort of insult. If being a “liberal” means I don’t want to judge, persecute, hate or kill people, than that’s what I am. Are you saying you want to be the opposite of that? Why?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            All you have done on this site is judge people, Be! You are a self-refuting, hypocritical, a-theistic, liberal, judgmental hater – and a fundamentalist one at that! Liberals don’t want to kill people?!? BWAHAHAHA! There are 57 million babies in the US that would like to have a word with you. Sadly, they won’t get the chance, because once you pass from this earth, you will not be allowed into the same place as them.

          • phone2000

            no one called him a name and it’s not about hate

      • KenS

        did you not read the article, it stated that it was a mental illness and because of it being a mental illness is why they won, reading comprehension helps

        • BeWhoYouAre

          It didn’t say it was a mental illness, quite the opposite. It said “Decisions about how to address students’ legitimate gender identity issues are not to be taken lightly.” Which is very correct.

          • KenS

            It said that he was diagnosed with gender dysphoria, that speaks of a mental illness and then the Judge stated that his mental health was a issue.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Hm, I scanned the entire article for the word “mental” and nothing came up except in your own comments.

          • KenS

            After previous court rulings had concluded that the school district had acted within the law, the Maine Supreme Court sided with the Maines family this past February, stating that the now 16-year-old student should have been accommodated for his mental health’s sake. Maines was later diagnosed with gender dysphoria following the 2007 incident.

            Ther i copied and pasted for you since you seem to be blinded by your idealogy

          • BeWhoYouAre

            And that says “mental illness” where? The point is it’s not an illness. Your quote above talks about his mental health meaning his mental well-being.

          • KenS

            Hello. If the judge states that his mental health is at risk that means mental illness and also a diagnosis means an illness

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Hello. Which means the state of his well-being, there is no “illness” to be inferred from that paragraph anywhere.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            Also you can diagnose things that aren’t illnesses.

          • KenS

            diagnose: to determine the identity of (a disease, illness, etc.) by a medical examination…

            diagnosis: Medical:
            a. the process of determining by examination the nature and circumstances of a diseased condition.

            b. the decision reached from such an examination.

          • KenS

            Oh wait it is clear to me now, you are saying he has problems with his plumbing, lol

          • KenS

            Sorry, that was wrong of me to make fun of.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            “diagnose: to determine the identity of (a disease, illness, etc.)”

            Yes, and this is an example of an “etc.”

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I work in IT. I diagnose computers.

            But if you want to drop this now, it’s fine, and let’s just say you win. Because quite honestly there isn’t a lot of objectivity in the writing of these stories. The entire world calls the pope Pope Francis but this website clearly disapproves and calls him ‘Pope Francis’ – note the disapproving quotes.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Ken, I just want you to know that you are debating an ideologue. He-she-it is not going to change his-her-its mind. But, I do commend you for trying. God bless your perseverance!

          • BeWhoYouAre

            God bless your fundamentalist hatred.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            But, BeWhoYouArent, surely you are not against fundamentals?!? You don’t fly on planes piloted by people who have not passed the fundamentals of flight, do you? You don’t undergo surgery by doctors who have not passed the fundamentals of medicine, do you? Then, again, you have missed one HUGE fundamental: he is not a she. God loves you and wants you back, Be!

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I never left God, I just didn’t adopt a bunch of hate based on some literal interpretations of a few vaguely-worded passages in the Bible. Fundamentalism causes people to fly planes into buildings and bomb abortion clinics. I want no part of it.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh, you are quite the hater – your posts prove it! Glad you are speaking out against Muslim terrorists. 🙂

            I see that you did not address the fundamentals of flying or surgery. And, really, being a member of the Gaystapo makes you a fundamentalist: you are for the fundamentals of sodomy and all of the mental, physical, and spiritual afflictions that come with it. Why DO you hate gay people so much that you wish them to be destroyed like that?!? You are also in favor of the fundamentals of self-mutilation for transgenders. You, my dear friend, are a fundamentalist and Christian-phobe of the worst kind.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            I’ll address your patent idiocies one at a time:

            1) I speak out against all terrorists, Muslim, Christian or otherwise. Terrorism is terrorism, I don’t care what religion it’s in the name of.
            2) Your use of “fundamental” to describe flying or surgery isn’t the same as the use of the word to talk about religion. Anyway the word is fundamentalIST – and in terms of religion, that is the least desirable thing to be because it is the most unwilling to listen to reason.
            3) What is Gaystapo, and why must I be gay in order to support people suffering from persecution?
            4) What does sodomy have to do with ANY of this, unless you’d like to prove that straight couples don’t also engage in it?
            5) I don’t hate gay people, I’m protecting them from the likes of you who by your post demonstrate that you neither understand what it entails and that you seek to damage them with your harsh words or your radical religion which Is one of hate..
            6) Explain the phrase “fundamentals of self-mutilation for transgenders” – I can’t have a proper conversation with you if you throw bizarre phrases like that at me.
            7) I am neither a fundamentalist (what “fundamentals” am I following?) nor a Christian-phobe. I’m a rationalist and a Christian of the non-bigoted kind.
            Now with that out of the way, why are you continuing to fight for your right to attack, oppress and judge people you don’t know anything about?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Ken, members of the Gaystapo do not read well. They create their own reality. That’s what this story is all about, actually, even if it involves self-mutilation. Just sayn.

          • BeWhoYouAre

            You seem to know a lot about this Gaystapo you speak of. Have you been a member for a long time?

          • anonymous

            Fifth paragraph, “for his mental health’s sake.”

          • BeWhoYouAre

            ALL of us have “mental health”.

          • anonymous

            So then we can agree that it was a “mental” issue.

      • The Lone Ranger

        Who is it that decides that it’s not a mental problem anymore what does he have a degree in ? The court is the one’s that are mental. Any man – boy that wants to use the girls room ain’t right in the head friend and neither is the court now you label me what you want but I’m man enough to tell you the truth.

        • BeWhoYouAre

          Rather than using a 2000 year old book to determine someone’s sick and going to burn in the flames of hell forever, why not instead look at modern science which I assure you has made great strides in studying this area. Wouldn’t it be a lot nicer to learn a little more about the subject and understand it and give things their proper diagnoses rather than judge and condemn people to hell?

      • Gary

        I was just trying to be nice by saying he has a psychological problem. His real problem is that he is a pervert.

        • BeWhoYouAre

          Spoken like a true bigot. Judging someone you don’t know and making a diagnosis based on your own emotions.

      • phone2000

        it is obviously a mental and hormonal illness…

        • BeWhoYouAre

          It’s not obvious to medical science experts and professionals, Charlie.

      • Regina Clark

        Gender Dysphoria is listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

      • Bingo

        It is a sickness, nonetheless—a spiritual sickness.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

      EXACTLY!! Instead of searching out the root of the problem, they attack everyone else!

    • Veronica Jensen

      Gary, don’t pay any attention to be who you are. There are so many people who are looking to justify their own peccadillos by using this as cover for their own weirdness. The poor kid has an overbearing mother and a spineless father who refused to stand and protect his son.

    • Bingo

      Exactly. He needs help—big time.

  • Demopublicrat

    If he has male parts, he doesn’t belong in the girl’s bathroom period.

    • Jeff Kincaid

      I am pretty sure she is not going in there for the periods. Probably just to pee and wash her hands.

      • Demopublicrat

        You mean his, he has male parts, male chromosomes, and male DNA – he is male, a mentally deranged male, but male nonetheless.

        ” Probably just to pee and wash her[his] hands.” Then why wasn’t the unisex bathroom good enough for the little fruitcake?

        • Jeff Kincaid

          Indeed? Well, it is good to see that the spirit of your savior is alive and well in you.

          • Demopublicrat

            Indeed? Well, It’s good to see the spirit of perversion is alive and well in you.

  • Frank

    He better not be entering my minor daughter’s bathroom, tell you what.

    • Jeff Kincaid

      Why? They are BOTH minors. Did you plan to commit an assault on a minor or something?

      • Frank

        If that is what you would do, that is your prerogative. As for me I have more brains and a lot of experience dealing with the school system, school board, etc. and getting things done without having to post ignorant posts.

        • Jeff Kincaid

          And yet you did, twice. No, I would not assault a child. But then, I have no problem with this child, nor with her desire to use the restroom appropriate to her sexual identity. I have two daughters and two sons; I would feel comfortable with this child using a restroom with at the same time as any of my children. I really do not see the issue here. The kid wants to take a piss, let her do so with the other girls.

          • Frank

            And you are what many people consider a child abuser and promoter of child sexual abuse. And I’ve turned in a few.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Indeed? Interesting. And one what do you base this silliness?

          • Frank

            Yes, indeed. I did. Radically changed my life. And just speaking frankly.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Scary to think that Jeff is a “father.” I actually thought he was a Woman’s Studies major, still in college. And daughters – poor girls!

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Nope, retired policeman, always been Jeff. The only women I studied were the ones I dated or married. One daughter is married with a son and working and is happy and well adjusted. The other daughter is working and engaged to a young man in the military. They have faired pretty well, both graduated with honors. Oldest son is married, carrying a 4.0 GPA after letting his wife finish her degree, youngest son is an A/B student in a local high school and is huge fan of classic 70’s rock. So, you ad hominem attack is not only a logical fallacy, but wrong.

          • Frank

            It takes all types. Missing God’s mark is a nasty business. Destroys us all, unless we repent and seek first the kingdom of God and it’s righteousness. In God’s Truth, not man’s in any form. Men will lead us astray.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Amen, well-put. I remember my former life as an a-theist (actually anti-Christian) and the incredible damage it caused to those around me. I’m praying for Jeff and the other lost ones right now.

  • Frank

    He better not be entering my minor daughter’s bathroom, tell you what.

  • Rusty van der Net

    USA is collapsing, and fast. We who are not American, better find other allies and quickly. America is a joke, it is rotten to the core. To all my friends in the States, get out fast, while you still can!

    • Jeff Kincaid

      So, you are not in the States? Then why are you worried? Did you just come here to troll?

  • MC

    This guy needs to seek help for his mental illness.

  • http://www.imagineitincorporatedng.com/ Tessa

    Let a doctor examine him, if he has a penis, use the male bathroom
    or have your parents build you now.
    I won’t be comfortable using a bathroom with a guy as a teenager…
    I don’t get it.

    • Jeff Kincaid

      You are correct, you do not get it. She feels as though she is a girl with birth defects. She is not interested in peering into your stall. Are you planning to inspect teens genitalia to ensure that they match yours? Chances are, you have ALREADY shared a bathroom with a transgender person. You didn’t know it because , well, you were not looking.

      • http://www.imagineitincorporatedng.com/ Tessa

        I think not
        I live in Nigeria…

  • Felix Garcia

    so to make one person comfortable we make all the other people uncomfortable? the crap is this, he’s a boy just confused. giving him what he want’s because he is different is just like saying if someone sees a dog as a person and wants the dog to go to school it should be allowed because it’s what the person feels is right. no this BOY should be using the BOYS bathroom.

  • Barb L

    Schools now need to put in transgender restrooms. Problem solved. Let them be who/what they want, don’t force it on to others that don’t feel comfortable with their choices.

  • TheBBP

    And so the precedent for the social inclusion of perverts has been set. If you are a creep who wants to hang out int the girl’s bathroom, just identify as one.

    • Mike Aranda

      Wait wen i was in school i always wanted to go in the girls bathroom but not to use it lol

  • bowie1

    He is still embracing a girl (if that is him above) so is he a heterosexual, or is he a male lesbian who sees the girl as the same gender as him?

    • Marie Adigwe

      He is the girl in the picture.

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        “He is the girl!” LOL. In 4 monosyllabic words, you captured the insanity of our culture.

        • Jeff Kincaid

          Actually, the insanity of our culture is based on the precept that there is a big powerful invisible man in the sky that will spank us if we are bad, but does not actually step in and help when needed, and the all the rules concerning this invisible man come from Bronze age tribal desert dweller campfire stories. THAT is the insanity of our culture

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Actually, Jeff, the insane ones are the New A-theists who actually believe (yes they do!):
            1. That the universe miraculously popped into existence out of nothing uncaused by anything.
            2. That life magically sprang forth from non-life when lightning hit some mud.
            3. That minds and morals evolved from molecules through monkeys.

            Some of us former a-theists no longer have enough blind faith to remain a-theists (anti-Christians?). When (if?) you graduate from college with your degree in Women’s Studies, you, too, will no longer have liberal fascist professors to do your thinking for you and whom you must parrot. God bless you, Jeff (formerly Jennifer?)!

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Go look at my response to your post to Frank below. And if you are SUCH a good Christian, how come you can not discuss a topic without relying on ad hominem attacks? Can’t really see Jesus doing that. To be a Christian, you have to be like Christ..

            Ironic though that you chose Jennifer as a name, since that is the name my parents had chosen had my brother been a sister.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Gosh, Jeff, how come you cannot reply to your 3 fairy tales, no pun intended? And who are you to be talking about Christ and morals? You are an a-theist, and your “pope” and “cardinals” agree that you cannot ground objective morals or duties: https://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/an-atheist-explains-the-real-consequences-of-adopting-an-atheistic-worldview/#comment-101449

            You may now return to your self-creating universes, mud-producing life forms, and molecule-based mind – what is left of it anyway. God bless you, Jeff!

          • Jeff Kincaid

            What are you even talking about? Pope and Cardinals? I am not Catholic. Are you this snarky and rude in real life or is it just because you can hide behind an anonymous internet screen name? Have the honesty of your alleged convictions.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Jeff, you clearly identified yourself as an a-theist in your comments above. (“big powerful invisible man in the sky”) That’s why I gave you the 3 main beliefs of the a-theistic creed, beliefs that I was expecting a reply to, frankly. The “pope” and “cardinals” of a-theism are the “big thinkers” in a-theism. I included that reference because you seemed to be making objective moral claims, and, of course, such is disallowed under naturalistic a-theism. You went after me, not the other way around. If you cannot handle snark in response to your snark, well, doesn’t that make you rather thin-skinned? God bless you, Jeff!

        • Marie Adigwe

          I personally don’t care. I meant to point out that Wyatt is the girl in the picture.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Yes, but thou speakest profound truth in 4 syllables. 🙂 You captured the insanity of our culture so beautifully. At no other time in history would Intelligent (?) people be so insane as to claim that a boy thinking he is a girl is anything but a sign of serious mental illness. (I know, I know, it’s the latest civil “wrong” issue.) Thank you for diagnosing our sick culture in 4 simple words – even if you didn’t meant to! Let’s print some t-shirts with this saying – and let’s form a “movement”! The Occupy Bathroom Movement? It has potential. 🙂 OK, the march will be in DC on Christmas Day. Be there. God bless!

    • Jessie Armentrout

      That’s a photo of her with her brother. Thanks for sexualizing a photo of siblings. I’m thinking I don’t want to share the restroom with Christians given where your minds go.

      • bowie1

        Siblings eh? Well siblings can be pals. However, living in Canada we probably won’t cross paths. I use a cubicle anyway to preserve my privacy. Oh, the mall does have a family bathroom for those who feel uncomfortable in the regular bathrooms – and the grocery store there has one person bathrooms.

    • Jeff Kincaid

      “male lesbian” ?? I am a male lesbian. I am male and I like women. I guess that makes me a male lesbian.

      facepalm.

    • bowie1

      I was told the above are siblings so I hereby correct my error. The “girl” is a transgender male.

  • Tina Taylor

    I can remember that in my school, doors were taken off of the stalls. Now we have cell phones and students using the restrooms of their choice? Yes we need to address the needs of all for restroom and locker room situations. What happens when a transgender student gets rapped? We do not want any of the staff or students feeling uncomfortable nor do we need to open the door for something like this to happen down the road. We don’t need cell phone pictures in these areas posted all over social media such as Facebook or Twitter. The superintendent offered a unisex staff bathroom. This provides the transgender student with privacy and allows the other students to feel comfortable. Schools must now consider just a few individual locker rooms with showers and an individual restroom close to the others for those with health issues and transgender students.

  • Neiman

    This person was born a boy and heterosexual – that is an absolute fact, no matter the cause of this gender confusion, he remains and always will be of the male gender. Even if he gets hormone treatments and surgery, he still remains a male. Those that refuse to treat this as a mental and spiritual problem hate this boy, they are condemning him to losing his everlasting soul and being tormented his whole life and in eternity, all because they do not want to help him, because it is not the politically correct thing to do.. That is the crux of the issue, all those defending this trans gender, sexually confused society hate these precious human beings, they don’t want them to get treatment, to be healed of this mental/emotional ailment, in pursuit of their radical Leftist agenda, they actually hate this young man and all like him.

    Since the dawn of man homosexuality, Lesbianism, transgender or bi-sexual people were rightly seen as being deviant, meaning having strayed from the normal course, needing help or being relegated to outcasts and shame, which is not being mean or lacking in compassion, it is the only right course of action to hopefully bring them to their senses and to seek help. The psychiatric community had always deemed it a mental illness, but their careers being threatened by the politically correct and godless Left, they were coerced into taking it off the list of mental ailments, not based on any rational or medically sound basis.

    Pray for this young man, pray for his parents, pray for those that defend this filth and for our country that is being destroyed by the militant sexual thugs in our country.

    • Jeff Kincaid

      Oh yeah, she looks like a thug alright. I mean, that lipstick and curls in her hair. About as thuggish as you get.

      • Neiman

        Looks do not determine if one is a thug, but actually I was speaking about godless liberals and the homosexual mafia.

    • Jessie Armentrout

      “This person was born a boy and heterosexual – that is an absolute fact…”

      No, it isn’t. You have a lot of gall claiming to know someone you read about in a news article better than they know themselves.

      • Frank

        If it pees like a duck……

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          OMG – well-done, Frank! What will the Gaystapo say to you now?!? 🙂

          • Frank

            it must be a rainbow flying thang……

        • Jeff Kincaid

          Then it is likely to be a duck. However, since we are not discussing ducks, your comment is a non sequitor.

          • Frank

            Ears to hear but never ……

        • Jeff Kincaid

          Then it is likely to be a duck. However, since we are not discussing ducks, your comment is a non sequitor.

      • Neiman

        Wrong! Whatever genitals a person is born with decides their gender, that’s it, no if’s and’s or but’s. The rest is a mental/emotional problem that needs psychotherapy or better yet, going to Christ for mental and spiritual healing.

        • Jessie Armentrout

          No, I’m not wrong and I happen to have a lot more personal experience with it than you. I also know what the vast majority of doctors and mental health professionals have to say on the matter, as well as what is in the DSM-V.

          • KenS

            The DSM-v has been revised by liberals and had this illness taken out of it for politcal and gay rights activitsts benefit

          • Jessie Armentrout

            So it should have been revised by conservatives? I think you’d find that professionals in their fields are all over the political spectrum.

          • Neiman

            No they are not! They either submit to godless liberal orthodoxy or their careers die, as you folk on the Left will tolerate no opposition, be it the climate change nonsense, evolution or anything else that is not thoroughly liberal.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            Ooookay. You pretty much reject all modern science. Gotcha.

          • Neiman

            I am suspicious of all science today because it is now all politically motivated and driven, it is no longer science, it is extreme Left Wing political based science. I have spent most of my adult life in medical research, including at SRI in cobalt irradiation studies, post irradiation laboratory analysis and in clinical medicine (Cardiac, Respiratory and Critical car) and much of that combining research and clinical practice. I know close up that it is all political now, science is pursued only if it fits into the liberal agenda, otherwise it is professional suicide.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            While transgenderism, or gender dysphoria, is not classified as a mental illness, paranoia is. Have you considered seeking professional assistance with your paranoia and fear of liberal and gov’t conspiracy?

          • Neiman

            If you had any intelligence at all, you would know that just to oppose evil does not make anyone paranoid. Transgenderism, gender dysphoria and homosexuality were taken off the mental illness list solely because the scientists either submitted to godless liberal orthodoxy or lost their careers. There was no medical.scientific basis for the change.

            Liberalism is wholly evil, it is anti-liberty, anti-American and certainly atheist. It is against everything this great country once stood for and that is why we are going down the johnny crapper, just today more information that for the first time since Grant was president, we are no longer the greatest, largest economy in the world and we are falling into the economic abyss.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Do you even know the definition of “Liberal”. I really want to know.

          • Neiman

            I do, but I will bet you do not:

            By the dictionary it means that government should be active in supporting social and political change: You know, big, oppressive government by force ruling every thought and deed of every citizen

            In America it means godless, atheist, immoral, socialist and anti-liberty. It means the tyranny of the Leftist political elite over the peasant classes that it secretly hates. It is the few living like princes on the backs of the people. It means it is against government “of, by and for the people.” It is a morally bankrupt political ideology.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            What I do not understand is why people such as yourself, who desire a theocracy, do not go and live in one. The United States is a constitutional republic. It is not founded on Christianity, or any other religion, it is, and always has been, a secular government.

            And no, your definition is not accurate (due mostly because of your skewed additions)

            Liberal:

            1.favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

            2.(often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

            3.of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

            4.favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

            5.favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression:
            a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

            6.of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.

            7.
            free from prejudice or bigotry; tolerant:

          • Neiman

            More lies heh Jeffy?

            I have NEVER advocated a theocracy, I know this makes you mad, but Christians, until 1962, were citizens and had a Constitutional right to try and influence our laws to reflect or social/moral values and elect leaders that shared those values. Now of course, we are no longer citizens to hear you Lefists tell the story.

            Almost everything you list are lies, they are self serving, colorful ways to distract people from your wholly evil agenda for America. None of you believe in liberty or freedom for the masses – just look at Obamacare, progress is code for destroying the previous Judeo-Christian social moral/values of this once and no longer, great country. Look at the First Amendment, it is now a joke there is no freedom or religious expression and no more free speech rights. So like everything you people do, you create a false narrative, you create soft sounding/appearing euphemisms like Reproductive Rights to cover up your mass murders. You replace old monarchies with a permanent royal ruling class, but tyranny remains tyranny.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            More persecution paranoia. You are a citizen because you are a resident of this country, NOT because of your religion. Religion has never been a determining factor in citizenship. In fact, Article 6 of the Constitution forbids a religious test for holding office.
            The fact that there were more Christians then then there are now does not mean that Christians do not have a voice, but it has never been a voice of religion. It was, and is, a voice of citizenship. There are many other religious paths and if you want religion to be included in stuff, you have to make way for ALL of them.
            Now, can you please come up with something new that does not rely on ad hominem logical fallacies? I am always up for a good discussion, but the same ole same ole is getting old dude.

          • Neiman

            You are completely wrong on every issue, but this is a waste of time, I get tired of you Leftists, you atheists, mounting the same old tired and wholly false arguments. At least be honest, you are anti-Christ and wholly immoral, you hate Christians and the America our Founding Father’s gave us, you are part of the movement to turn this nation into an official atheist state, a neo-Soviet Union. But, all you are doing is destroying this country.

            Sadly God has already judged America, we are falling into the garbage heap of history and nothing will save us now.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            You need some serious psychiatric help my friend. Paranoia, persecution complex. You are also a bully. I have read some of your responses to other people, other stories. You claim to be Christian, but you are not. Christ would look at you and your tactics and shake his head and ask himself “Why do they JUST NOT GET IT? Why do they continue to spew hate in my name? Was I not clear about loving everyone? Sigh”

            People like you make Jesus cry and feel a right proper failure.

          • Neiman

            Just what do you know about Christ? What do you know about Love from God’s point of view? What are your Christian credentials? Or, are you just another atheist pretending to speak for God and use it to bully Christians? On what basis can you say I am not a Christian?

            I know, a Christian should never speak against sin, right? He should never speak against those people that are enemies of Christ, right? God loves everyone and He approves of homosexuality, gay marriage, abortion and all things we radical Christians call sin, right?

          • Jeff Kincaid

            I never indicated my religion. I was raised in a Baptist church. I just do not feel the need to wave the flag.
            As for what I said to you, in order to be a CHRISTian, you must answer Christ’s call, not quote scripture, not wave the flag of a particular church, etc. Think HARD on whether Jesus would be proud of you bullying others in his name. Think of how many times jesus adminshed his disciples when they wanted to kick someone’s butt for being nasty to Jesus. In Matthew, Jesus tells them to put away the sword and pray instead. Jesus was the consummate peace maker. He did not go around haranguing people and giving them a hard time. He spoke love and tolerance. In order to be a Christian, one has to be like Christ.

          • Neiman

            Notice, you never claimed to be a Christian and in fact earlier remarks indicate you are now an atheist. So, that previous exposure to the Christian faith and your later rejection does not make you qualified to judge how a Christian should act, does it? I mean your not believing in Christ anyway?

            That being a accusation is just your biased, hate filled, subjective opinion, not fact. I could just as easily accuse you of the same thing. What about John the Baptist, not very Christian he, right? After all he called those coming to Him a brood of vipers, gross sinners that needed repentance. He publicly called Herod and his wife adulterers and twice the children of hell. Was he a bully, was he unloving? Or, is it possible you have no idea what Christian love is?

            Jesus spoke of love and tolerance, while that is true; what about when He called people serpents, drove out money changers and those selling animals with a whip of cords, was He a bully? Or when He accused Peter of talking in the spirit of Satan? Well, I guess Jesus was not a very good Christian, right? What about when he said He did not come to bring peace, but to set family members against each other, not very loving, right? Jesus was not very tolerant was he, when He constantly told people to repent and stop sinning?

            John the Baptist had his had cut off, he must have offended someone and been viewed as not being very loving, right? Maybe a bully? They crucified Jesus, He must have offended someone and not been seen as very loving, right? He must have been a bully too, right?

            Or, could it be that your idea of saccharine sweet, tolerate sin and mamby pamby love is wrong? Is it love to avoid offending gays by not telling them it is a sin and leave them to hell? Or, its it love to confront sin and oppose evil that souls will be convicted of sin, repent and find salvation. Any chance you are wrong?

          • DD

            The Bible tells us Jesus was intolerant of hypocrisy. Before you try to guilt trip Christians who believe in and support God’s Word and what He teaches us about sin, you should take your own advice and pray for those you believe are being un-Christian and contentious instead of being a bully yourself.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Pray for Jeff – he actually has kids (I thought he was a Women’s Studies major still in college. :-(): 2 daughters, 1 son, and 1 son-daughter. (OK, 2 sons.) He is a New A-theist, and we must pray for his children. And for Jessie too. They are in such darkness, Neiman – my heart overflows with sorrow for them.

          • Neiman

            Yes, I will and you are right. See my answer to him below and see if you agree.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I agree with almost everything you write, Neiman. You are showing the same tough love toward those who are lost that Jesus did. (And Paul and all of the apostles and the early Church.) Jesus was VERY direct with the woman at the well, the money changers in the temple, the hypocritical pharisees who denied His Messiahship, His Word, and His Authority (who are the liberals and false gospel spreaders of today, not the conservative Christians and theologians), etc. He also spoke about Hell more than anyone else in the Bible, and to stand aside and watch someone go over a cliff (into the Abyss), telling them all along “I love you. I would never judge you. You are doing just fine.” is the most un-loving thing we can do. You have to keep this up, no matter how much of a lightning rod you become, and count yourself worthy for His Name to be slandered and persecuted for it. You are doing great, and your writings are Biblically-based and much kinder than mine. Carry on and Godspeed!

          • Neiman

            My goodness, what a great compliment and encouragement. I remember Paul often said that we were to encourage one another with the encouragement we receive. How very uplifting. Thank you so much!

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Assumption much? Where did I even say any of my children are transgender? None of my children are transgender, nor are any gay (though this would not alter my love for them) . I simply do not feel it is correct (whether one is a follower of Christ, or an atheist) to treat our children with hatred and bigotry. Oh and I will just throw in race as well, I am one of those crazy white boys, that, had I been old enough at the time, would have been marching in Selma with Dr King.

            You also assume I am atheist. I never said that. What I said was I do not wave my flag of religion. I prefer instead to walk the walk instead of talking the talk. Is there not something in your Bible about bearing false witness? You people forget your own history so quickly. You remind of Cotton Mather and his ilk.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            While transgenderism, or gender dysphoria, is not classified as a mental illness, paranoia is. Have you considered seeking professional assistance with your paranoia and fear of liberal and gov’t conspiracy?

          • Neiman

            As I have made clear, such things as homosexuality and this nonsense of trans-genderism was changed because professionals feared losing their careers and submitted to the godless forces of liberalism; but, they do so without any sound medical basis for the change. If these people were born with male genitals, no matter their emotional problems in identifying with that gender, they were born both male and heterosexual. They may for reason of mental problems have trouble in identifying with that gender, the answer is not giving in to their psychological impairments, but deal with the underlying mental/emotional problems. But no, it is in the political interests of the godless Left to pander to them, to make that which is clearly a deviation from normal into some bizarre neo-normal, cut off their penis, give them hormones and destroy their chances for a happy, normal life and that is hate.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Your *expert* advice has been tried and it failed. Professionals in the field of treating transgender people know that has failed.

          • Neiman

            It has not failed just because you and your godless liberal pals say so, it fails because your side does not want, you cannot tolerate being wrong, you have to bolster yet another alleged class of victim, who are only victims of your liberalism.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            It has failed because SOME of us have tried it and it almost killed us! I take this very personally. And it has nothing to do with ‘liberalism’. I know a number of transgender people who are conservatives.

          • Neiman

            First, it is not whether or not these falsely-called transgender people are liberals or conservatives, it is about the godless liberal forces that promote the lie that it cannot be changed and that for their own selfish political purposes, they don’t want you to get better.

            As science has been so corrupted, there is no hope they will ever be able to deal with this mental/emotional deviation from the normal. If the person wants to change, they can and will change, but if they resist help, the they will fail.

            Yet, the only sure healing and it is 100%, is when the person has come to a place of admitting a need for help beyond man, when they reach out to God, He will change them. As long as the people in the mental health care field are trying to do it on their own, failure can be expected all the time.

            I am truly sorry you have thus suffered, it must be a bit of hell for you; but you cannot hope to accept the gender you were born with and find peace and happiness until you can truly see that it is wrong, to admit that there is a spiritual problem; but, if you ever can, you will be changed, the Great Physician never fails, the Bible says everyone He touched were instantly and completely delivered. He can raise the dead, compared to that your problem is a cake walk for Him.

            Sadly, most will never get to Him for healing, because they can never admit it is wrong. I have nothing but sincere compassion for you and I would like to see your misery end; but it starts with you.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            I’m a recovering Southern Baptist. I know the spiel and the snake oil and, as I said, it almost killed me.

          • Neiman

            I am truly, most sincerely, from my heart sorry for that outcome and to hear of your rejecting them because they were weak in their faith. I do not doubt that you felt it almost killed you and I deeply regret that outcome on your life. I do not doubt your sincere reaction to this failure.

            The Church has become so weak in the area of faith, it is heartbreaking. It makes me angry that because of our failures, we failed you and brought you to harm.

            I could tell you stories about how many times God has saved me from death, healed my diseases, like Polio, healed me when three times by virtue of accidents I suffered major concussion, was in a coma each time and yet, by the prayers of truly Holy Spirit filled people, after more than six score and 12 years, I am amazingly healthy and experience miracles every day. I know prayer works and yet, I do not condemn or feel negative towards you for feeling otherwise, based on the failures you have experienced, especially at the hands of Christian people who meant well, but were ill equipped to answer your desperate needs. Believe me, I feel much sorrow at our failures on your behalf.

            I will starting this day pray for you that God will open your eyes to His Love and Truth, that you will be able to turn to Him for your healing and while I may never now the results in this life, I know God will make Himself known to you and bring you healing. I only wish you were in a place where I could encourage you daily.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            “I do not doubt that you felt it almost killed you…”

            I almost felt a 40-caliber hollow point go through the back of my mouth, so I’d say it was *maybe* more than just a feeling.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            “Godless liberal” – So, since you have no actual facts upon which to base a sound argument, you have resorted to ad hominem attacks (a common logic fallacy). Good going. 🙂

          • Neiman

            It is not an attack, it is the truth. (1) It is the Liberals that were behind the lie of Separation of Church and State that kicked God out of the public square and made the Christian God persona non grata in all our affairs.(2) It is liberals that are behind the baby holocaust – they euphemistically call abortion. (3) It is liberals behind the homosexual rights agenda. (4) It is liberals that are behind the perverse gay marriage agenda. In every possible way they have shown themselves to be passionately atheist and hateful of the Christian Church. So, you are wrong.

            My guess you are a godless atheists or a practical atheist.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            “godless atheist” – Now that is funny. In your attempt to make a pithy comment, you have stuck two words togther that mean essential the same thing.
            Atheist=
            A- meaning having none
            theist- belief in a supreme or super natural being. Thus Atheist is someone with no belief in a supreme of supernatural being.
            I think Godless is pretty easy to figure out.

            I am curious though, a “practical atheist”? As opposed to an impractical atheist?

            Now, to address your supposition. #1 is incorrect. Thomas Jefferson coined that term in his Letter to the Danbury Baptists in 1802
            #2 – Your use of the term “Liberal” is inappropriate to this topic. There are fiscal conservatives and social conservatives. They have different agendas, abortion being only one of those topics.

            #3 – Homosexual rights agenda. Now that is hilarious, since the Republican party was, at one time, where the Democrat are now. But again, you are confusing fiscal and social. They are not the same. There are social liberal in all groups, Even in some big ole mega churches. I know some here in Lynchburg.
            #4 – Show me some evidence where marriage equality has harmed marriage in any way. Also, please provide ac citation showing how being liberal equates to being atheist?

            You make many claims, few, if any, are backed up by any evidence and instead, rely on the same tired rhetoric of hate and bigotry. I wish you people would come up with something new.

          • Neiman

            Fact #1: That term and that idea of “Separation of Church and State” appears no where in our Constitution or Bill of Rights. It was the sole basis for that extreme Left Wing pal of FDR, Justice Hugo Black, out of whole cloth to advance the lie of separation. Jefferson was only comforting this group that he, if elected, would not declare a national church.

            Fact#2: That nonsense of fiscal and social conservatives and liberals is a difference without any significance.

            Fact #3: No matter if some are fiscally conservative, if they are not social/moral conservatives they are still wholly immoral liberals.

            Fact #3: Of course you would deny that you Leftists are not pursuing a homosexual rights agenda, even though it was/is liberals behind every pro-gay legislation.

            Fact #4a: I don’t have to show evidence, it is obvious on its face that gays have equal rights to marriage, just not to each other, because they do not qualify for marriage.

            Fact #4b: When you liberals support kicking God out of the public square in defiance of the 1st Amendment, are mass murderers of over 50 million innocent babies in the womb, are pro-pornography, pro-homosexuality, pro-gay marriage – that means you do not know nor fear God, which makes every one of you, at minimum, practical atheists.

            I do not have to please enemies of Christ, only oppose you because you are leading people to hell by the hundreds of millions.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Fact 1 – I never claimed it appears in those documents. Why are you implying that I did? What does appear is the Establishment clause, which forbids the gov’t from establishing, or endorsing a particular religion.
            Re Fact #2 – You need to take up your disagreement concerning these terms with political folks, I did not make up the terms.
            RE Fact 3 – Says you, which means, exactly, well. nothing.
            Re fact 4a – Apparently a number of states disagree with you.
            Re Fact 4B – Why do you have such a low opinion of God? Do you have that ,much doubt in His power that mere politicians could kick him out of anywhere? (I mean, if he exists that is).

            While you are ranting about things Biblical. Go and read Romans 13 1-5, and then get back to me.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            “I don’t have to show evidence, it is obvious on its face that gays have
            equal rights to marriage, just not to each other, because they do not
            qualify for marriage.”

            And it was obvious on its face that people of different races had equal rights to marriage, just not to each other, because they didn’t qualify for marriage in a number of states prior to 1967. They had the ‘equal’ right to marry within their own race.

            That argument was used then and it failed then as it fails now.

          • Neiman

            There is NO comparison between race, which is about immutable human characteristic and homosexuality, which is not immutable and is about conduct. From the dawn of man marriage has only, with a couple of rare instances in depraved cultures, been between people of the opposite gender. Gays may have civil unions or other legal contracts to deal with their deviant relationships, but they do not qualify for marriage.

          • Jessie Armentrout

            Homosexuality isn’t about conduct. One can die a virgin and still die a homosexual. Sexual orientation, including your own, is about which sex(es) you are attracted to whether you act on your attractions or not.

          • Neiman

            I understand your point, but in scientific research, when a number of variances are so small as to not count against the whole, we call it statistically insignificant. As virtually every gay or transgendered person engages in willful, deviant sexual conduct, any that remain virgins would be statistically insignificant.

      • BarkingDawg

        He’s an internet physchologist.

        The best thing about being an internet physchologist is that you don’t have to waste all that time and money actually learning about phycology. You can make it up as you go.

        • Jessie Armentrout

          Or you can actually both study it in college and spend a few years in therapy with one dealing with these issues.

          • BarkingDawg

            I never claimed to be an expert on the issue.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Neiman, that is a beautifully put, compassionate, and truthful diagnosis. You are a voice in the wilderness!

    • BarkingDawg

      Where did you get your doctorate in psychology?

      • Neiman

        I will not waste my time with you, defending anything, you are simply not worth the effort.

        I will say I have an extensive background in medical research and clinical medicine and like most people studied psychology along the way. I also know that these things have been considered mental/emotional illnesses for centuries and only the career threatening pressure from the godless Left caused otherwise reputable people to sell their souls for a mess of pottage and change their views absent any medical foundation.

        • BarkingDawg

          B. S.

  • Jessie Armentrout

    The headline is wrong, but good for her! What this biased article doesn’t tell you is that the school district was violating the Maine Human Rights Act, which bans discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

  • David Morales

    So if and when he breaks the law, (and gets caught) Men’s prison or women’s prison? Hmm. No pity there huh? Men’s Prison. I’ll bet my sack of coins that’s what the gov would do! Argue with that reality all you want!

    • Jeff Kincaid

      That depends on if she changed her birth certificate, which she can do in most states.

      • Neiman

        This person is NOT a she, despite what liberal government may say, this person is a male and will always be a male. See not everyone will buckle under to your godless liberal orthodoxy.

        • Jeff Kincaid

          OK, so you have said the same tired rhetoric several times, is that the limit of your ability to respond to a discussion?

          • Neiman

            Oh, I forgot you godless liberals demand that any one opposing your dogma be silent or else.

          • Jeff Kincaid

            Nope, did not say or else, I asked if you had anything intelligent to say? I guess you have answered my question with your response.

  • Rosavera

    This should not ever have passed and to allow one boy to use the girls room is wrong, what about the girl’s rights…??? Why was this not addressed and instead punished the school for acting within normal human rights and defending the rights of the girls also. Why was the unisex bathroom not good enough for this confused boy…? Or was this AGAIN done on purpose to destroy all that is good in human nature and to make this one boy king and bully over all others…!

  • Opus35

    Do you think it’s ok for a lesbian to use the girls bathroom or women’s bathroom? Or is it just wrong to let a penis in the girls bathroom or women’s bathroom?

  • Dave

    She’s a girl. Enough said. She wants to use the girl’s bathroom. Makes sense.
    I don’t know what you creeps go in the bathroom to do, but most of us (I’m sure her included) go in to take care of business and leave.
    By all means though, keep promoting a high suicide rate, exclusion, bullying, and bigotry.
    You are by far the most hate-mongering, evil, ignorant group of people to walk the Earth.
    Why don’t you put the “Christ” back in “Christian” ?
    You make me sick.

  • Bingo

    What an easy way to make $75,000!!!

  • John Mark IB

    sad so you’re telling me that simply if i feel a bit more of a man or woman today I can just go into whichever bathroom suits me and well, just be true to myself be yourself?? right ok then hey to all the pedophiles great news here you can visit all the bathrooms you want with no fear of trolling for little boys and girls oh and why not fight for your rights as poor born that way can’t help it pedophiles too?? thias wolrd is a freak paradise and really going so fast towards the doom of anti Christ!! so sad parents who care and are still “normal” ?? let this be a lesson in how to not let your precious little ones be alone for one second anywhere and trust no human being period!!!

  • Lynda

    I think it is mentally and emotionally abusive to the females.