Pro-Homosexual Bakeries Refuse Christian’s Cake Order for ‘Traditional Marriage Celebration’

ShoebatOver a dozen pro-homosexual bakeries refused to fulfill a Christian’s order for a cake bearing the message “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” in an experiment meant to see if such bakeries would accept orders against their beliefs just as they expect of Christians.

As previously reported, in May of this year, Ashers Baking Company in Newtonabbey, North Ireland—founded by Christians and named after Genesis 49:20—was approached by a same-sex “marriage” supporter to bake a cake bearing the phrase “Support Gay Marriage,” which also was to feature the logo for the homosexual advocacy group QueerSpace.

When the bakery declined, the customer reported Ashers Baking Company to the Equality Commission of Northern Ireland, which in turn sent a warning to to McArthur, stating that he and his bakery had discriminated against Lee. The bakery was ordered to either pay or face legal action.

In light of the incident, and other similar situations that have been reported across America, Theodore Shoebat of Shoebat.com decided to call 13 homosexual-owned or pro-homosexual bakeries to ask if they would make a cake for a “traditional marriage celebration” that bore the message “Gay Marriage Is Wrong.” Not one of them agreed to make the cake.

“We’re a gay cookie shop, so I don’t think that’s going to work,” one replied.

“I apologize but we don’t support that,” another said, “because half of our staff is gay.”

“We don’t really support that or agree with that, so I’m going to have to say no,” a third stated.

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“No, we wouldn’t consider doing something like that,” responded another. “That would be like doing a nude cake or something like that. That would be getting into areas that we don’t delve in.”

While some quickly ended the conversation by stating that they did not feel “comfortable” with fulfilling the request, others became more irate at the idea.

“One baker even said all sorts of profanities against Christians and ended the conversation by saying that she will make me a cookie with a large phallus on it,” Shoebat explained.

“Even after we completed our experiment, we got a ton of hate messages saying that we were ‘hateful’ for simply giving them a taste of their own medicine,” he stated. “They argued that the slogan ‘Gay Marriage Is Wrong’ is not the same thing as ‘Support Gay Marriage’ as if an opposite view of a view is hateful.”

Shoebat said that his experiment proved that even pro-homosexual bakeries won’t violate their beliefs since they refused to serve the Christian, and Christian bakeries shouldn’t be forced to violate their beliefs either.

“A Christian making a homosexual cake with ‘Support Gay Marriage” goes against his faith and a homosexual putting ‘Gay Marriage Is Wrong’ goes against his faith as well,” he stated. “Now of course we honor their right to say no—this is not the issue—but what about honoring the Christian right to also say no?”

Footage from all thirteen calls, which was too vile to be published by Christian News Network, was recorded and uploaded to YouTube.


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  • Gary

    Fine. No problem. Every business transaction should be voluntary. But there is a monstrous hypocrisy in the government prosecuting and harassing businesses who don’t want to do business with pro-homosexual people, if they let the pro-homosexual businesses refuse to do business with Christians. Just let everyone do business with who they want. That is the only fair way to do it.

    • Peter Leh

      the business has every right to refuse business to a jackass.

      • Gary

        All businesses have the right to refuse to do business with whoever they want, for whatever reason they want. All business transactions should be voluntary. Forcing people to do business when they don’t want to amounts to slavery.

        • Peter Leh

          “All businesses have the right to refuse to do business with whoever they want” again…….no they do not.

          “for whatever reason they want”

          again….you are not paying attention to the real world around you.

          “All business transactions should be voluntary. ”

          Should is not the same as “what is”.

          “Forcing people to do business when they don’t want to amounts to slavery.”
          … and this is why you do not own your own business. 🙂

      • jmichael39

        So in other words all businesses has a right to refuse to business with YOU? Ok…thanks, appreciate your openness.

        • Peter Leh

          Ha, funny.

          • jmichael39

            Extremely

          • Peter Leh

            you own a business?

          • jmichael39

            Yeah, I do….do you?

          • Peter Leh

            then you know the rules…. or should

  • MC

    Did anyone really believe that the LGBT community isn’t bigoted and intolerant?

    • Frank

      But, but, but…. Ummm… Not for a minute

      • Peter Leh

        one can be bigot and intolerant. just not break the law.

  • Frank

    Pay no attention to the beliefs behind the curtain.

  • Frank

    Is that a hand in the cookie jar?

    • ジェン 美しい

      GOD has given as freewill so if the baker Christian don’t want to bake the gay cake it’s because they don’t support or agree the beliefs of homosexual because it’s against God.. remember moses bother aaron in exodus when he did not restrained the sinful acts of the wicked israliets.. so Christian as a duty to convict wrong doings of others with love and not conformed with their beliefs..in short the baker Christian has a right to refuse what the gay customer wants..

      • sunny anna

        Exactly

      • Peter Leh

        which county do live?

  • raytheist

    In which case did a same-sex couple ask for specific words or symbols in a wedding cake? When did a same-sex couple request anti-Christian messages put on a cake? There is no comparison here, and this experiment is nonsensical.

    • James Grimes

      This comment is meaningless on a Christian forum.

    • Jeffrey Olah

      so what you’re saying is gays can discriminatebased on their views but not people who hold a deep faith in the bible

      • raytheist

        I am saying there is no equivalence here. “Support Gay Marriage” does not hurt anyone. “Gay Marriage is Wrong” is a hateful, harmful message. There is no reason for discrimination in either direction (really, it is JUST a cake and nothing more), but in both cases it is the Christian side being hateful. If the same-sex couples wanted a message like “Stop Christian Weddings” it would be equally wrong and hateful, but that is not the message being presented.

        • Jeffrey Olah

          it’s free speech and if one has to make the cake then the other should have to also

        • sunny anna

          oh whatever your a hypocrite plain and simple. Guess what? gay marriage is not marriage it is a union of nonsense invented by satan himself. Marriage is between a man and a woman just like God intended. Argue all you want your argument is not only pointless but baseless too, that’s the truth don’t like it too bad.

          • Peter Leh

            apples and oranges.

    • Karen Pickford Pluhar

      I agree, it wasn’t that the people were Christians, it was the message they wanted on their cake. This was just stupid!!

    • jmichael39

      You don’t think those gays requesting a cake wanted a man and a woman on top of their cake do you? You don’t honestly think that making them put a man/man or woman/woman on top isn’t putting an anti-Christian message on the cake, do you?

      • Peter Leh

        it is. what of it? what is the responsibility of the business? the owner? ask any business owner.

        • jmichael39

          I AM a business owner. Shall I ask myself? If those Christian based business are required by law to violate their beliefs to make a T-Shirt or a cake or whatever in violation of their beliefs, then so are these gay friendly businesses. You disagree?

          • Peter Leh

            they are not required by law to violate their beliefs. if you are a business owner then you already know this. yet you don’t seem to nor did you answer my questions.

          • jmichael39

            just because youj don’t like an answer doesn’t mean it isn’t an answer to your question. If Christian business owners are required to do things that violate their beliefs or face civil penalties, then so should these people. If you don’t think these people should be made to do business with these customers because their requests violate their beliefs, then neither should Christian business owners. PERIOD…end of story.

          • Peter Leh

            “just because youj don’t like an answer ”

            you did not answer my question because you did not answer my questions. So far there is nothing to “like” or dislike”. I have no problem with answers when i get them. 🙂

            As a business owner yourself, you should know that the government is not “requiring” Christians to violate their beliefs when setting up their company. The rules are there for ALL to read. Set it up to satisfy your conscience AND the sate regulations. Chick fila has done it, i have done it, hell The Hitching Post has done it (for the short term at least)

            any business owner KNOWS this.

            “If you don’t think these people should be made to do business with
            these customers because their requests violate their beliefs, then
            neither should Christian business owners.”

            Again it is not what “I think”. what does the LAW say? we business owners can “wish” all we want. but we business owner have to live in reality, don’t we jmichael39?

          • jmichael39

            Again, you don’t like an answer so, to you, it is not answer. I stand by my answer. Additionally, this is not about what a law says. Laws are written all the that violate our Constitution and the rights protected by the Constitution. And our courts have regularly ‘re-written’ the Constitution from the bench to suit their own political agendas. I will run my business in accordance with the ways God has taught me to run it, period. If those ways stand in violation of some law written by man, so be it. If it results in the government taking away my business because I have stood by my religious beliefs, then so be it…even if that’s not how our Constitution was set up for it to be. You wanna live the way you do, feel free. But I’ll stand by my answer and my approach to business.

          • Peter Leh

            So yes, the law does not “force” a citizen or business to violate their conscience.

            The questions were rhetorical in a since and did not need an answer.

            An answer you as a business man already knows.

          • jmichael39

            No matter how you play with the semantics, the laws today ARE forcing Christian business owners to choose between staying in business and paying fines for violating some law or violating certain religious principles.

          • Peter Leh

            No it is not. If so we would all be out of business, no? How is cathy staying in business? how did the hitching post avoid fines? why have i not been fined? Have you? If not why? (rhetorical btw)

            As you know, being a businessman, you are free to set up your business how you wish: S-corp, Lp, LLP, GP, 501c3, etc.

            What IS being “forced” or “enforced”, as it may, is the agreement the business made voluntarily with the state.

            again. you know this being a businessman. 🙂

  • James Grimes

    It’s no big deal. Personally, if I had wanted a cake for a Christian ceremony, I would only seek out a Christian baker to make it. I would prefer to “keep it in the family.”

  • Neiman

    These homosexual bakers have the Constitutional right to refuse to serve Christians, if serving them would violate their religious values. Oops, these people have no religious values, at least none that would require they refuse such service, so they are doing it solely to discriminate against Christians.

    • raytheist

      Why would you assume homosexuals have no religious values? That assumption makes no sense.

      • Neiman

        Try reading the “whole” sentence, maybe 2-3 times and then get back to me.

        • raytheist

          I did. You claim they have no religious values, at least none that would require they refuse such service. But according to I Cor 5.9-13, these so-called Christians have no grounds to refuse service to others in the public square, and merely wish to discriminate against others CONTRARY TO THEIR OWN BIBLE.

          • Neiman

            Those passages have nothing to do with this, the Holy Spirit was saying that it is impossible not to have contact with fornicators, while we are in this world, as it is filled with them. It does not mean we have to nor should we ever compromise our faith in doing so. When commerce crosses the line wherein a Christian must compromise their faith, they are to obey God and not man and not thus be engaged. You do not know God’s Word beyond chosen passages, taken out of context solely to falsely try and use them against Christians as weapons of your warfare against Christ and His Church.

          • James Grimes

            Once again an Atheist has misquoted Scripture to suit his own warped agenda. If you’re going to play with fire, you’re going to get burned.

          • raytheist

            Misquoted? I told you what it says and what it means.

          • dynbrake

            You do not know what it means.

          • raytheist

            Actually, I do. You might interpret it some other weird way that makes is seem like Christians get to bully others, but I don’t.

          • dynbrake

            No, YOU interpret it falsely.

          • James Grimes

            Atheists have been dismissed as useless trolls on this site.

    • Peter Leh

      it is discrimination…. but legal. the bakers did not discrimination against a protected group. they denied service to a jackass.

  • Nater Durban

    Goodridge v. Dept. of
    Public Health,

    Justice Cordy wrote that:

    Paramount among its many
    important functions, the institution of marriage has systematically provided
    for the regulation of heterosexual behavior, brought order to the resulting
    procreation, and ensured a stable family structure in which children will be
    reared, educated, and socialized. Admittedly, heterosexual intercourse,
    procreation, and child care are not necessarily conjoined . . ., but an orderly
    society requires some mechanism for coping with the fact that sexual
    intercourse commonly results in pregnancy and childbirth. The institution of
    marriage is that mechanism.

    The institution of marriage
    provides the important legal and normative link between heterosexual
    intercourse and procreation on the one hand and family responsibilities on the
    other. The partners in a

    marriage are expected to
    engage in exclusive sexual relations, with children the probable result and
    paternity presumed. Whereas the relationship between mother and child is demonstratively
    and predictably created and recognizable through the biological process of
    pregnancy and childbirth, there is no corresponding process for creating a
    relationship between father and child. Similarly, aside from an act of
    heterosexual intercourse nine months prior to childbirth, there is no process
    for creating a relationship between a man and a woman as the parents of a
    particular child. The institution of marriage fills this void by formally
    binding the husband-father to his wife and child, and imposing on him the
    responsibilities of fatherhood. The alternative, a society without the
    institution of marriage, in which heterosexual intercourse, procreation, and
    child care are largely disconnected processes, would be chaotic. 798 N.E.2d at
    995-996 (footnote and citations omitted).

    I note that the reservation
    of marriage to opposite-sex couples is also rationally related to the State’s
    interest in providing the benefits of dual-gender parenting. The Legislature
    could assume that “a recognition of same-sex marriages will increase the
    number of children experiencing this alternative,” and “conceivably
    conclude that declining to recognize same-sex marriages remains prudent until
    empirical questions about its impact on the upbringing of children are resolved.”
    Id. at 1000 (Cordy, J., dissenting).

    Various amici point out that
    New York law allows unmarried homosexual couples to adopt. Nevertheless, in
    reserving marriage to opposite-sex couples, the Legislature reasonably may have
    believed that the ideal of dual-gender parenting should be preserved whenever
    possible.

    The fact that the [State]
    currently allows same-sex couples to adopt . . . does not affect the
    rationality of this conclusion. The eligibility of a child for adoption
    presupposes that at least one of the child’s biological parents is unable or
    unwilling, for some reason, to participate in raising the child. In that sense,
    society has “lost” the optimal setting in which to raise that child –
    it is simply not available. In these circumstances, the principal [*24]and overriding consideration is the “best
    interests of the child,” considering his or her unique circumstances and
    the options that are available for that child.

    The objective is an
    individualized determination of the best environment for a particular child,
    where the normative social structure – a home with both the child’s biological
    father and mother – is not an option. That such a focused determination may
    lead to the approval of a same-sex couple’s adoption of a child does not mean
    that it would be irrational for a legislator, in fashioning statutory laws that
    cannot make such individualized determinations, to conclude generally that
    being raised by a same-sex couple has not yet been shown to be the absolute
    equivalent of being raised by one’s married biological parents.

    Goodridge v. Dept. of
    Public Health, 798
    N.E.2d at 1000.

  • blobclark

    so, next question… logically has to be “why did not the christian man file a complaint with the State EEOC and lawsuit” . Push the issue, make the gays pay and defend themselves.

  • Daniel Nshk Himmelmoe

    I don’t think he understand why this is not just two sides of an argument. If one group wants to be accepted as equals in a society, and another group wants to deny them that, then the oppressing side is the hateful one. It is hateful to actively work against other peoples freedom.

    A fish struggling to escape a fishing net is not hateful for doing so, but forcing it back into it, is………

    This is why I hope Christianity, along with all the other religions, fade away within my lifetime. I have had enough.

    • sunny anna

      Whatever, Christianity is never fading away and one day soon your knee will bow and your tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is LORD and there is nothing you can do to change it.

      • Daniel Nshk Himmelmoe

        ooh. I disagree, Christianity is in serious decline in the developed world. 🙂 luckily. Willing to bet on that? I have been on my knees for Jesus, not in a gay way :p, and The view is so much better from up here on my two feet. I can see the deceit clearly now.

        The internet is killing religion, because the church cannot censure it. Truth will out 😀

  • Daniel Nshk Himmelmoe

    yes, exactly… I suspect that he had malicious intents in the way he worded it.

    But I must ask, you say that you do not support homosexuality as a Christian, but do you accept them as a fellow human being? I have friends who say that, personally they are ok with it, but as a Christian they cannot condone their actions.

    Either way, I find it strange that christians keep picking on the gays. I mean, there are hundreds of rules in th bible that I know for a fact that you cannot uphold, unless you are writing this from a prison cell with wifi. So why do Christians cherry-pick which rues to follow and which they can ignore? Homosexuality is not part of the 10 commandments. So if it’s not even in the top 10, why all the fuss?

    I think that you’re wrong, the secular world knows exactly how bigoted you are. But I don’t think you guys understand HOW bigoted you are.

    • sunny anna

      your blind! Something does not have to be in the ten commandments to be wrong. It is still written in the Bible, but the blind i.e you refuse to see it.
      the secular world is full of bigots itself and so your wrong and no you DON’T understand how blind you are

      • Daniel Nshk Himmelmoe

        I know, but I did not say that. I said that it’s not even in the “top ten” so why obsess about homosexuality? I mean, the bible says that all sorts of things are wrong, like working on the sabbath, getting a divorce, spilling your seed on the floor etc.. Why attack gays all the time? cherry picking was the word I chose.

        I know the bible. I used to study it. I went to a christian private school. I’m not blind or ignorant of the content, I just recent it and what it makes people do and say 2000 years later. It’s ancient and has no place in the modern world. I don’t care that the bible is not ok with homosexuality, it’s scientifically proven that humans are born gay. about 10%. and that goes for other mammals as well.

        At any rate, why do you think that it’s any of your business who people choose to love and spend there life with? Two consenting adults should be left alone.

        • sunny anna

          No its’ wrong homosexuality is an abomination! and yes you are blind and ignorant and devoid of understanding. Attacking gays, no its’ called telling the truth. If speaking the truth makes you feel attacked, well that’s too bad, because I’m going to keep saying it and there is nothing you can do to change it.

          The bible has every place in the modern world considering that it still speaks to the modern world. God’s word will never pass away. Scientifically proven seriously don’t make me laugh! You unbelieving will justify any behavior based on your so called experiments! You are making some great assumptions there. I will stand for Jesus forever and its’ good to know that the truth I wrote is affecting you in such a way that you needed three paragraphs and a lot of emotion just to defend your lies.

          Jesus is the way the truth and the life, nothing you say will change the facts, the truth so obvious it can’t be ignored, unless you belong to the world of the blind who deliberately choose to not believe.

  • Peter Leh

    shoebat is a poser and fool. comparing apple and oranges then claiming martyrdom is the height of hypocrisy. integrity is still a christian virtue

  • Peter Leh

    i thought conservatives were suppose to understand business? are christians the dumbest business owners in the world? NO. only those who wish to be ignorant are the dumbest.

  • sunny anna

    Exactly!

  • raytheist

    But none of that applies to normal people who are not bound by fear and superstition, living by a 2000 year old book of fables. We know better today.

    • dynbrake

      But, really, you do not know better. Instead of moving forward, you have gone backwards into the deviancy of Sodom.

  • James Grimes

    And the Atheist proves… nothing.

  • cheryl hawkins

    SHUT THEM DOWN….FINE THEM 50K-100,000….EQUAL DAMAGES……..THEY ARE BIGGOTS….RACISTS….IN REVERSE…CLOSE THEM DOWN NOW !!!!

    • Peter Leh

      how could you shut it down? what law was broken? the fact no charges are brought tells you what? what is the law for business say compared to the right of the citizen?

  • Peter Leh

    “I think Mr. Shoebat’s ‘experiment’ was very poorly executed and only
    served to make Christians look even more bigoted and hateful than the
    secular world already believes we are.” YEP

    • dynbrake

      Nope!

  • Peter Leh

    “really it should not be a surprise to anybody that is born again of the spirit of God.”

    Nor is it a surprise the business acted within the law to anyone who owns a business.

  • Kate O’Keefe

    How is this the same thing as a Christian bakery refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding? Have gays actually asked those bakeries to write derogatory words on their cakes stating straight marriage or Christianity is wrong?

  • dynbrake

    False.