Canadian Mennonites Officiate First Same-Sex ‘Wedding’

Osler fbSASKATOON, Canada — Two Mennonite ministers in Canada have officiated the denomination’s first same-sex “wedding,” holding the service publicly in a “church” building in Saskatchewan.

Anita Retzlaff and Patrick Preheim of Nutana Park Mennonite Church officiated the ceremony for Craig Friesen and Matt Weins on Dec. 31, which was held at Osler Mennonite, the childhood congregation of Friesen.

“For us, a wedding is supposed to be a celebration of our commitment to each other in front of our faith communities, our other communities and God,” Friesen told CBC News. “It wouldn’t feel right if we didn’t get married in the Mennonite church.”

“Having these examples that someone doesn’t have to choose between their religion and who they’re attracted to, I think that’s important,” Wiens added.

The Mennonite Church in Canada officially opposes same-sex nuptials, but last year, leadership announced that it would allow each congregation to believe as they wish on the subject in order to keep congregations from leaving the denomination.

According to reports, Nutana Park Mennonite began discussing the issue of homosexuality 15 years ago, when some who were involved in the lifestyle urged the congregation to be more accepting. A group was soon formed on how ministers would respond to the issue.

We didn’t want to be asked by a couple and not be able to respond honestly where the congregation is at,” Preheim explained to the Star Phoenix.

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The question was turned back to the congregation, and in October 2012, the Nutana bulletin began featuring an “inclusive statement,” which reads, “Nutana Park Mennonite Church welcomes into fellowship and membership all persons who confess faith in Jesus Christ without regard to their race, ethnic background, gender, age, sexual orientation, income, education, ability and other factors that give rise to discrimination and marginalization.”

Then, Retzlaff and Preheim agreed to “wed” Friesen and Weins, a move that was considered to be controversial as the majority of Mennonite ministers in Canada believe that homosexual behavior is a violation of the law of God.

As previously reported, while the Mennonite Church USA is also officially opposed to homosexuality, some have expressed frustration over what they perceive to be a passive attitude toward congregations that affirm the homosexual lifestyle. Last fall, a Mennonite congregation in Ohio voted to leave the Mennonite Church USA in part due to concerns over what it believes is a lack of discipline against those who engage in homosexual behavior.

“We felt that Mennonite Church USA and [our church] were going in different directions concerning scriptural authority and holiness,” Ross Miller, pastor of Hartville Mennonite Church in Lake, told the Mennonite World Review.

He advised that concerns about various aspects grew over a number of years, but when the Mountain States Conference, a division of the Mennonite Church USA, approved the ministerial license of a Colorado woman who identifies as a lesbian, it expedited matters and resulted in a recent vote to part ways.

“We felt there needed to be church discipline, and there hasn’t been,” Miller said, referencing disappointment that the Ohio Conference failed to pass a resolution urging the denomination headquarters to address the Mountain States’ actions, as well as a statement from an executive board member that he felt was less than satisfactory.

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  • Neiman

    1. The Mennonite Church and every Church agreeing to falsely called gay marriage are apostate, they allow gays the pretense of Divine approval, while they remain twice the children of hell.
    2. These are NOT marriages, they are a most damnable perversion of marriage and while a sinful world may approve, God surely does not.

  • pax2u

    the anti Catholics will accept this, they will considered it a Christian Church
    as long as it is not the Catholic Church

    • Gary

      No, we won’t.

      • pax2u

        so you self identify as an anti Catholic,

        Neiman will not respond he is still trying to find that Bible, Book, Chapter and Verse when Jesus Christ made the prophecy that St Peter would be crucifed upside down, wow as a self declared Bible expert it is sure taking him a long time to find it

        I am sure you will embrace it as a true Church,
        because it is not the Catholic Church
        I will pray for your eternal soul

        • Gary

          I am anti Catholic. And, I do not accept any group as being Christians who are pro-homosexual. Just because some group is not Catholic does not mean that I accept them as Christians.

          • pax2u

            so only 8% of Americans are “true” Christians?
            If Neiman makes statements about the Bible that are in error is he part of the 8%?

          • Gary

            I wonder if the number is even as high as 8%? Probably not.

          • James Grimes

            He has a fascination for Neiman, an unhealthy one.

          • pax2u

            I have a fascination with those who lie about the Bible to support their Anti Catholic agenda

          • Gary

            Is there hope in the pope? Nope.

          • pax2u

            I am a sinner, and the Pope is a sinner, and there is always hope for Sinners

            Gary I posted this to you and here is your response

            pax2u Gary•5 days ago

            so gary are you now a Once Saved Always Saved?

            Gary pax2u•5 days ago

            Have always been
            so Gary since you are Once Saved Always Saved do you no longer sin?

          • Gary

            I still sin, which I am not proud of. But my sins are atoned for by Jesus Christ.

          • pax2u

            if you sin are you still Always Saved?

          • Gary

            Yes, I am.

          • pax2u

            is all sin the same or are there different levels as the Catholic Church teaches?

          • Gary

            I wouldn’t say it is all equal, but any sin is enough to damn you, if you bear the penalty yourself.

          • pax2u

            I have heard some who say that being Once Saved Always Saved all sin is equal

            The Catholic Church states that there are different levels of Sin

            I found this from EWTN.com

            A serious, grave or mortal sin is the knowing and willful violation of God’s law in a serious matter, for example, idolatry, adultery, murder, slander. These are all things gravely contrary to the love we owe God and, because of Him, our neighbor. As Jesus taught, when condemning even looking at a woman lustfully, sin can be both interior (choices of the will alone) or exterior (choices of the will carried into action). A man who willfully desires to fornicate, steal, murder or some other grave sin, has already seriously offended God by choosing interiorly what God has prohibited.

            Mortal sin is called mortal because it is the “spiritual” death of the soul (separation from God). If we are in the state of grace it loses this supernatural life for us. If we die without repenting we will lose Him for eternity. However, by turning our hearts back to Him and receiving the Sacrament of Penance we are restored to His friendship. Catholics are not allowed to receive Communion if they have unconfessed mortal sins.

            Venial sins are slight sins. They do not break our friendship with God, although they injure it. They involve disobedience of the law of God in slight (venial) matters. If we gossip and destroy a person’s reputation it would be a mortal sin. However, normally gossip is about trivial matters and only venially sinful. Additionally, something that is otherwise a mortal sin (e.g. slander) may be in a particular case only a venial sin. The person may have acted without reflection or under force of habit. Thus, not fully intending the action their guilt before God is reduced. It is always good to remember, especially those who are trying to be faithful but sometimes fall, that for mortal sin it must not only be 1) serious matter, but 2) the person must know it is serious and then 3) freely commit it.

          • Gary

            All sin is serious, according to the Bible. But murder is probably more serious, and bears a heavier penalty from God than say, getting drunk would.

          • pax2u

            I think I understand, I believe that there is a difference between lying that my neighbor’s dog was on my lawn, and the other extreme of will fully murdering a bus load of little kids
            that would be the Catholic example of a Venial Sin and a Mortal Sin
            like I have said some say that all sin is equal, but I do not hold to that belief

          • James Grimes

            Gary, there is nothing that you can tell this delusional angry man that is going to change his mind. He is on a one-way street to destruction. He thinks he has all the answers but he is completely clueless.

          • pax2u

            lying about the Bible is a one way street to destruciton
            the “useless” will lie about the Bible

          • pax2u

            but if you are always saved how can sin damnn you?

          • Gary

            If I am saved by Christ, then Christ bears the penalty for my sins. I said, any sin would damn you if you have to bear the penalty yourself.

          • pax2u

            the Catholic Church teaches that we must ask for forgiveness and repent for our sins to be saved
            do you believe that you can sin and still be saved with out being required to ask for forgivenes or repenting?

          • Gary

            When I was saved, I repented of my sins and asked for forgiveness. I am now a child of God by faith in Christ. When I sin now, I should confess it to God. But if I don’t, I’m still a child of God, and still saved. I don’t get unsaved when I sin.

          • pax2u

            I think that the difference between your theology and mine is asking for forgiveness,
            I believe that I need to ask for forgiveness when I knowingly and will fully sin
            I have heard some who are Once Saved Always Saved, say that they are saved regardless if they sin and all sin is the same
            I ask them if they they willfully murder a bus load of little Children and do not ask for forgiveness are they still saved?
            I was once told “well that person was not really saved” my questions then is how do you know if you are “really saved”

          • Gary

            Don’t you confess your sins to a priest?

          • pax2u

            yes I do as the Bible says

            16Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

            if you are Once Saved Always Saved,
            can you will fully murder, not ask for forgiveness and still be saved?

          • Gary

            That verse does not say to confess your sins to a priest. You confess your sins to God. If you have wronged someone, then you apologize to them and make amends, if necessary. Confessing sins to a priest is not Biblical.
            Once saved, always saved, no matter what happens. But that does not mean I am free to murder. I still have an obligation to live righteously. Being saved does not give me the right to sin.

          • pax2u

            it says to confess to one another, and the Priest is another
            does the verse say to confess only to God? it does say to confess to another
            so if you are always saved, but have an obligation to live righeously, will you still sin, or are you now with out sin, if you then sin do you have to confess, and then is that “works”?

          • Gary

            That’s another of the MANY reasons I am not catholic. I am saved, and going to Heaven, without any involvement with Catholicism. Which proves the catholic religion is useless, and worthless.

          • pax2u

            so you can murder and not ask for forgiveness and still be saved
            that is why I am not Once Saved Always Saved

          • Gary

            I could murder, not ask for forgiveness, and still be saved. Any Christian could. But you couldn’t because you have never been saved.

          • pax2u

            so if you will still sin, and murder is a sin, how do you know if you are saved?
            or are there certain sins that show that you are not saved
            sounds like the Catholic Church Venial and Mortal sins

          • Gary

            I know I am saved because I have believed on Jesus to save me from my sins. Being saved does not mean you will never sin again. It means your sins are covered by the blood of Christ. Past, present and future.

          • pax2u

            but murder is a sin, and if a person is saved and decides to sin, in this example they murder, then will think that it is forgiven and they are saved

          • Gary

            In Catholicism, is the priest the mediator between you and God?

          • pax2u

            no
            in your Baptist Church is your pastor the mediator between you and God?

          • Gary

            If the priest is not a mediator, then why confess your sins to him? The problem is between you and God, not between you and the priest.
            No, my pastor is not the mediator between me and God. That is why I don’t confess sins to my pastor.

          • pax2u

            because the Bible says to confess to one another

            James 5:16

            16Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much

          • Gary

            “Confess your FAULTS one to another…” I suppose we could argue about whether faults and sins were the same thing, as meant by James, but not much point in doing that.
            If you confess your sins to a priest, do you also confess them to God? If not, then why?

          • pax2u

            James 5:16

            16Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much
            my Bible says SINS
            I am only going by the Bible
            we are told to confess to another but only God forgives

          • pax2u

            if we are told to confess to another, does that make that another a mediator between you and God, so which is it, do not confess to another as the Bible says?

          • James Grimes

            You are delusional. Neiman – remember him? has used Scripture correctly. Gary has done the same. There are no Christians on this site who misquote Scripture. You see demons where there are none. There is something seriously wrong with you. Your fears have dominated you.

          • pax2u

            so you support this false statement

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.
            no wonder he is afraid to respond, just runs away like a scalded dog,
            even when it can not be supported by a Bible Book, Chapter and Verse,
            I am still waiting for his Bible citation, since he is the self appointed Bible expert
            so lying about the Bible is fine with an anti Catholic as long as it can be used to attack the Catholic Church
            I pray for you, you are the “useless, babbling, incoherent”

          • James Grimes

            You proved me to be correct. Nice job.

          • pax2u

            you are correct Nieman is a fraud and not a Bible expert

          • James Grimes

            I never said that. That’s your delusion. Anyway, I want to thank you for the entertainment. As I attempt to read your delusional rants, I can’t help to laugh. I do have pity on you, but at the same time I am entertained. Please keep it up. There is some value to your delusions.

          • pax2u

            I understand why you would believe that making a false statement about the Bible that can not be supported with the Bible Book, Chapter and Verse is entertainment,
            I forgive you
            I will pray for you
            I pity you

          • James Grimes

            Haha. Funny. Thanks.

          • pax2u

            do you really believe that lying about the Bible is funny? really? wow

          • James Grimes

            Haha. Funny.

          • pax2u

            lying about the Bible is not Funny
            to a Christian

          • James Grimes

            Haha. Better than the last two.

          • pax2u

            so you really believe that lying about the Bible is Funny, so very sad
            I will pray for your eternal soul

          • James Grimes

            Hey, this is the same email you sent the last two times. You’re repeating yourself. That is funny.

          • pax2u

            is lying about the Bible funny?

          • James Grimes

            OK, let’s see… #4 of the same. Give me a minute to laugh. OK, I’m done laughing at your comment. Thanks.

          • pax2u

            where is the Bible Book, Chapter and Verse that states this?

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

            or is lying about the Holy Bible funny to you

          • Spoob

            You’re not laughing, you want everyone to think you’re laughing. You’re peeing your pants and screaming at your computer screen.

          • James Grimes

            Spoob, you are completely clueless. And here we have another meaningless comment from an insignificant troll. Any more insults?

          • Spoob

            So I am clueless, James? Let’s see if we have this straight. You are saying that as a Christian you think homosexuals are hell bound sinners. You say this as a follower of Christ. Despite the fact that Jesus CHRIST said NOTHING, not one single solitary word about them. Using this same logic, you also hate Catholics, women and atheists. I, on the other hand, judge nobody, since it is not my place (as well as being a grave sin itself). Is that a good depiction of how clueless I am James?

          • pax2u

            your avatar is the HOLY BIBLE
            is lying about the HOLY BIBLE really funny to you?

          • James Grimes

            YOU are pathetically funny. Thanks for the laugh.

          • pax2u

            you mock the Bible and Jesus Christ, you laugh at the word of God, and support hatred

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”
            where is this in the Christian Bible, or are you a Christian, or just a laughing fool

            may God have mercy on your eternal soul

          • pax2u

            I see that the Fraudulent self described Bible Expert
            Neiman is hiding in the weeds up voting you, I guess that he is busy looking up
            the Bible Book, Chapter and Verse to support his statement

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter
            would request it.

            takes a long time for the self described Bible Expert

            Frank said that Nieman is “not exactly” a liar
            and a fraudulent Bible Expert

          • pax2u

            if Neiman, James Grimes, Gary and you are the only true Christians, then you are correct

    • James Grimes

      Paxy, go play some bingo.

      • pax2u

        you took off your “guest” posting sheet

        interesting that I did no post this to you, but when I said anti Catholic you felt the need to respond.

        go read and believe the complete Bible,
        I will pray for your eternal soul

        • James Grimes

          You are incoherent.

          • pax2u

            I will pray for you “guest” you are the “useless”
            so Neiman is not the Bible expert? or does he just make it up as he goes
            Welcome to America, and try to work on your English writing skills

          • James Grimes

            You are babbling again. You’re still incoherent.

          • pax2u

            So when Nieman makes false Bible statements that is coherent
            very Sad, you should read, and BELIEVE in the Bible and not support those who make false statements about the Bible

          • James Grimes

            You should make an effort to write clearly. You are still incoherent. You babble, you rant, and you make no sense whatsoever. You are wasting my time.

          • pax2u

            can this statement be supported by the Bible, Book, Chapter and Verse

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.

            or is it just more anti Catholic babbling

          • pax2u

            where is this in the Bible

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.

            it is incoherent

      • Spoob

        Jimmy, go wave some snakes around.

    • Neiman

      Pax2u: As a friend, not an enemy, I would encourage you most strongly to get help with your serious mental problems. You have demonstrated an obsessive personality, anger, hate and an out of control ego problem. For your own sake, not mine, please consider mental health care ASAP.

      • pax2u

        you are my Christian Brother but not my Friend

        Can you support this statement with a Bible Book, Chapter and Verse?

        Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

        WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.

        lying about the Bible is your serious mental problem, your inability to realize your error and your pride to accept that fact is your out of control ego problem
        for your sake seek mental health care and pray to the Christian God Jesus Christ for forgiveness
        I will continue to pray for your eternal soul

        • Neiman

          This is my last attempt – you have very serious mental health issues and you suffer from immaturity, I beg you to get mental health care before it is too late.

          We are not brothers in any sense of the word.

          • pax2u

            Why can you make a false statement about the Bible like this

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”
            and then either not have the ability to suport it with a Bible, Book, Chapter and Verse, or the Pride to admit that you made an error
            based on your anti Christian posts, you may be correct that you are not a Christian, and we are not Christian brothers
            or do you believe to lie about the Bible to support your anti Catholic hatred is acceptable
            I forgive you and ask you to seek mental health care

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            How quickly you’ve forgotten your own once firmly held beliefs, huh Old Pal?

            Neiman Matthew Hawkins • 2 hours ago

            …Mentally ill is a medical diagnosis and unless you are a licensed psychiatrist, you are practicing medicine without a license and that is a crime.

          • Neiman

            To everyone her, this is probably the mist evil man I have ever known. Please ignore him.

          • pax2u

            I just up voted reality based bob, Nieman

          • http://realitybasedbob.sayanythingblog.com/ realitybasedbob

            Old Pal, you’re as much a fundisi as you are a follower of Christ. Which is to say, you are a fraud. Shame on you.

            Leave these nice people alone.

      • James Grimes

        He won’t. He thinks he is normal.

        • pax2u

          It is not normal to make a statement about Jesus Christ that can not be supported by the Bible Book, Chapter and Verse

  • James Grimes

    Two apostate actions are evident here… the ordination of a woman “pastor,” and a same-sex “wedding.” It is unfortunate to see that apostasy is alive and well in this congregation.

    • BarkingDawg

      The times, they are a changing.

      • James Grimes

        It is amazing that you don’t have a moral framework to your existence.

        • BarkingDawg

          I have a moral framework. It’s just not identical to yours.

          You have no basis on which to pass judgment on anyone else’s values.

          Certainly not based on a few posts on the Internet.

          BTW, self-righteousness is not a virtue.

          • James Grimes

            Did I strike a nerve? Your many anti-God and anti-Christian posts have led me to this conclusion. I stand by it.

          • Neiman

            God’s Word testifies against him.

          • James Grimes

            We know that, don’t we?

          • pax2u

            at least Frank said that Neiman is “not exactly” a fraud for lying about the Bible

          • James Grimes

            Haha.

          • pax2u

            sad that you do not believe in the Bible

          • James Grimes

            That is hilarious. Actually, I believe that the Bible is God’s absolute Word. I’m not laughing at the Bible; I’m laughing at you.

          • pax2u

            is it approved for an anti Catholic to lie about the Bible

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

          • James Grimes

            Same comment 32 times. Haha.

          • pax2u

            Do you agree with Nieman?

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”
            Please provide the Bible Book, Chapter and Verse
            this is a Christian site, so it is not funny

          • Spoob

            Does it use up lots of your energy pretending to be Christian?

          • pax2u

            do not mock the Bible

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

          • pax2u

            your manic laughter allows you to lie about the Bible

          • James Grimes

            This is a little better… thanks for posting funny comments.

          • pax2u

            so you support those who lie about the Bible

            with insane manic laughter

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

            where is this is the Bible? or is the Bible a joke to you, as you hate Christians

          • James Grimes

            You already posted this 30 times already. Try something else.

          • pax2u

            do not lie about the Bible and Mock God

          • James Grimes

            OK funny guy- how am I lying about the Bible? Are you man enough to answer me?

            Btw, I wasn’t mocking God. I was reacting to you and your comments.

            Answer the question big man.

          • pax2u

            is this statement true?

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

            please provide Bible Book, Chapter and Verse

          • James Grimes

            Answer my question big man.

          • pax2u

            you are lying about the Bible if you believe that this statement is true, with out a Biblical citation.

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

            provide Biblical Book, Chapter and Verse to support this,
            little boy

          • James Grimes

            You are a pathetic coward. You are not well. Bye.

          • pax2u

            can you support this statement with the Bible? Book, Chapter and Verse?

            Neiman> Nick_from_Detroit •a day ago

            “WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.”

            if not who is the pathetic coward, running away?

          • pax2u

            cowards change their posting names like you posting as a “guest” or now, Nieman posting as Fundisi

          • Spoob

            Still making lots of friends here I see.

          • James Grimes

            I’ll leave Pax2u for you. You deserve each other. Anything else you want to bother me about?

          • Spoob

            That’s up to you. Keep spouting bigotry and I will be in your face. Your choice. Your call.

          • James Grimes

            That’s OK nutcase. Knock yourself out with stupid responses to my comments. You will be ignored. Give Pax2u a call. He’s waiting to share his misery with you.

          • pax2u

            I am waiting for your answer if you agree with Nieman/Fundisi’s statement

            Neiman Nick_from_Detroit•17 hours ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.

            If you agree cite the supporting Bible Scripture, Book, Chapter and Verse

          • Spoob

            We’ll just see who the real nutcase is. It is pure pleasure to expose you as the hateful bigoted hypocrite you really are. You will learn that the Bible is not your tool for beating up and bullying other people.

          • pax2u

            poor James Grimes is filled with hatred he is part of the Neiman, now known as Fundisi, Klan
            Neiman/Fundisi believes it is fine to make a false statement about the Bible, with out scriptural support, Book, Chapter, and Verse
            as long as lying about the Bible fits their anti Catholic agenda

          • James Grimes

            Hey paxy, you made a false statement yesterday and I asked you to back it up. You REFUSED to do so because you could not do so. In case you have a selective memory, here is my comment,

            “OK funny guy- how am I lying about the Bible? Are you man enough to answer me? Btw, I wasn’t mocking God. I was reacting to you and your comments. Answer the question big man.”
            Paxy, you have proved yourself NOT TO BE A MAN, but a backstabbing hater.

          • pax2u

            hello my Christian Brother how are you this wonderful day?

            Do you agree with this statement?

            Neiman Nick_from_Detroit•17 hours ago

            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it.

            I have asked Neiman, who has now changed his posting name to Fundisi to prove this to be true (for you benefit the opposite of a truth is a lie)
            If this statement can not be supported it is not a truth it is a lie, a lie about the Bible, and a lie is a sin against God, to lie about the word of God is to mock God
            Please ask your self declared Bible Expert Nieman/Fundisi to support his statement with the Bible, Book, Chapter and Verse,

          • pax2u

            you posted this

            “Hey paxy, you made a false statement yesterday and I asked you to back it up”

            I responded with

            “Do you agree with this statement?
            Neiman Nick_from_Detroit•17 hours ago
            WRONG! Jesus prophesied that Peter would be hung upside down, not that Peter would request it

          • James Grimes

            We know that, don’t we?

          • BarkingDawg

            Blah, blah, blah.

            I don’t give a rat’s patooie what a self righteous, self-proclaimed “Christian” thinks.

            Buh Bye.

          • James Grimes

            “Blah, blah, blah. I don’t give a rat’s patooie what a self righteous, self-proclaimed “Christian” thinks. Buh Bye.”

            And so an “intelligent” Atheist speaks…

  • Whatever MGTOW

    Who the hell wants to get married anyways? lol

  • Jesse Oldham

    Seems more of a statement of rebellion against God than anything else.

  • Gary

    Wow. I thought the Mennonites were Christians. I guess not.

  • Elat

    If you change doctrines and compromise to please people so they don’t leave, you are no longer a Christian. Period.

  • Faithwalker

    A compromising rebellious church would rather please man than to please God, its no longer a church it has become a social club.

  • Dr. Dee Tee

    is there a denomination left that obeys God?

    • James Grimes

      Yes, but only a few. All the mainline denominations are apostate. The Presbyterian Church in America, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, and the Reformed Baptist Church are three that I know of. I am sure that there are a few others.

      • pax2u

        which denomination is yours?

      • pax2u

        three out of 30 thousand not good odds

  • Gary

    Christians do not endorse homosexuality. They don’t perform, support, or attend “same-sex marriages”. What we have here are people claiming to be Christians who are not.

    • BarkingDawg

      Gary, why are you so obsessed with homosexuals?