During an interview Thursday with Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, also known as the “Ten Commandments judge,” CNN anchor Chris Cuomo and brother to New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo stated that the laws of the nation do not come from God, but from man’s collective opinion.
The discussion was in regard to the constitutionality of same-sex “marriage,” and especially Moore’s efforts to stop the federal courts from imposing its opinions on the state of Alabama.
“Everybody has a right to equal protection and equal application of the law,” Moore explained. “Every person in this country and in this state has a right to marry a person of the opposite sex according to the traditional definition of marriage.”
“And why not extend it to the same sex?” Cuomo asked. “That’s clearly within the bounds of reckoning equal protection. Why not do that?”
Moore replied that such arrangements are not defined as a marriage.
“That’s not in the historical definition of marriage [and] never has been,” he stated. “It’s going to be created if it is created, which I do not believe it should be or would be.”
Cuomo said that meanings of words change with the times.
“[T]imes change, definitions change,” he remarked. “We didn’t think blacks were equal to whites; that changed.”
“I believe that’s a matter of law,” Moore said, “because our rights contained in the Bill of Rights do not come from the Constitution, they come from God.
Cuomo replied sharply.
“Our laws do not come from God, your honor, and you know that,” he stated. “They come from man.”
Moore then spoke about the Declaration of Independence and how it is written into the code as being “organic law.”
“Our laws do not come from God,” Cuomo repeated. “That’s your faith, that’s my faith, but that’s not our country. Our laws come from collective agreement and compromise.”
Moore began quoting from the Declaration of Independence and it’s notation that mankind’s rights come from God.
“It’s not a matter of faith, sir. It’s a matter of organic law, which states, ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ and the only role of government is stated in the next sentence, [which] is to secure those rights for us,” he explained.
During the discussion, the two tussled back and forth about Moore’s stance against a recent federal court ruling that declared Alabama’s Sanctity of Marriage Act as being unconstitutional. Moore has vowed to defend the state constitution and has ordered probate judges throughout the state not to issue same-sex “marriage” licenses.
“I would suggest that your refusal goes to what you believe marriage is about, and not just to the law,” Cuomo posited. “This is just like the Ten Commandments situation. You were told by the federal courts, remove the Ten Commandments from the public square. You didn’t want to, and you wound up losing your job because of it.”
“It’s not about my feelings, it’s about the law,” Moore replied. “And my law, Alabama law, states that I’m chief administrative officer of the judicial system and I must act when the jurisdiction of the probate courts is interfered with by one lone judge who has no power or authority to tell them how to interpret the federal Constitution.”
“It’s about discrimination,” Cuomo said.
“It’s about sexual preference overcoming an institution which has existed in our state, in our United States, for centuries,” Moore replied.