Girl Scouts of America Allowing Boys Who Identify as Girls to Be Members

Girl Scouts pdConcerns are being raised over revelations that the Girl Scouts of America (GSUSA) is allowing boys who identify as girls to enroll as members.

On Thursday, the organization published a guest post by Andrea Bastiani Archibald, Ph.D., who it called the group’s “Chief Girl Expert.” In the brief post, entitled “The Meaning of ‘Serving All Girls,'” Archibald explained that GSUSA does not limit its definition of a girl to those who were born female.

“If a girl is recognized by her family, school and community as a girl and lives culturally as a girl, Girl Scouts is an organization that can serve her in a setting that is both emotionally and physically safe,” she wrote. “Inclusion of transgender girls is handled at a council level on a case by case basis, with the welfare and best interests of all members as a top priority.”

“Our mission to build ‘girls of courage, confidence, and character, who make the world a better place’ extends to all members, and through our program, girls develop the necessary leadership skills to advance diversity and promote tolerance,” Archibald said.

The information is also outlined in the FAQ section of the GSUSA website, stating that “if the child is recognized by the family and school/community as a girl and lives culturally as a girl, then Girl Scouts is an organization that can serve her in a setting that is both emotionally and physically safe.”

But the revelation has raised concern with Christian groups nationwide, who already were wary of the Girl Scouts because of its alleged affiliation with Planned Parenthood, which GSUSA denies.

“This means girls in the organization will be forced to recognize and accept transgenderism as a normal lifestyle. Boys in skirts, boys in make-up and boys in tents will become a part of the program,” the American Family Association (AFA) writes on its website, where it is now collecting petition signatures against the move.

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“[T]his latest thing is just one more slap in the face to Christian parents,” Penny Nance of Concern Women for America added on AFA’s radio show “Today’s Issues.” “[N]ow you don’t have to be a girl to be a member of Girl Scouts. You can just be questioning your gender or a boy who would like to be a girl.”

“I think this is a place, frankly, for the Church to be the Church and for people that are marginalized in society, for us to love them, but we also can’t lose our minds,” she said.

The AFA petition has so far gathered over 33,000 signatures.

“This policy undermines the trust that parents place in the GSA’s leadership to make wise decisions and the obligation the GSA has to protect their daughters,” it reads. “Please, stop listening to the few individuals who would use young boys as pawns in the culture war and destroy this organization in the process of advancing their social agenda.”

The Girl Scouts of America was founded in 1912 and its oath requires girls to pledge to “serve God and my country,” but permits girls to “substitute wording appropriate to their own spiritual beliefs for the word ‘God.'”


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  • Bobby Mae

    Oh my gosh, now obviously all little boys are gonna want to be come girls, or even worse, prebuscent 8 year old boys are obviously going to start dressing as girls in order to hit on them in the bathroom. Let’s run into hysterics!!

  • Reason2012

    This whole attack on gender is nothing but perversion indoctrination and we need to stand up against the few that are promoting their perversion upon America.

    And consider: if a little boy believed he was really meant to be a cat, would you have surgery to implant a tail and whiskers and have him walk around on all fours to make him “happy” or would you get him mental help?

    • MisterPine

      So now it’s an attack on gender? Everything with you guys is an attack, isn’t it?

      • The Last Trump

        Wow. Did you just attack him for being paranoid about being attacked?!
        Oh Mister Intolerant! Still so adorable!
        Nuttier than a fruitcake (no pun intended) but still adorable! 🙂

        • MisterPine

          No, Rumpy. Still fighting reality I see, and with a smugness that is second to none.

        • MisterPine

          No, Rumpy. Still fighting reality I see, and with a smugness that is second to none.

          By the way, you are becoming a firm favorite on fstdt. com. I hope you’ve been checking for updates. Many people are wondering what planet you are from.

        • Bobby Mae

          Um, did misterpine attack anyone in his last post? Lol you look so desperate to win the argument. I pity you

          • MisterPine

            I’m a thorn in his side because every time he says something desperate, ridiculous or from the planet Mars I submit it to fstdt dot com. Go there and look up his name and be sure to read the comments he gets. Hilarious.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            fstdt . com = Fundies Say The Darndest Things

            Good for a laugh … before ultimately crying.
            .

          • MisterPine

            Yes, you laugh at how unbelievable the statements are. And you want to cry that they actually believe them.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          Yeah, asking why someone who is transgender can only be perceived as attacking someone or something … is attacking.
          .

    • Bobby Mae

      considering evangelicals are statistically less educated than the average american, it’s not shocking that you arent able to understand something that doesn’t affect you personally

      • Mark Barker

        Please show us the statistics you are referring to. Don’t quote them if you don’t have them. Not to mention, there are plenty over over-educated people with no common sense.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          Plese show us the statistics you are referring to …

          Oh, nevermind.
          .

    • amostpolitedebate

      How is a private organization deciding on their own to open it’s doors to a select few people an “attack”?

      • Lark62

        Because any time christians are not able to shame and demean people they have never met and who have done no harm, this is an attack on christians. Didn’t you know? Because jesus is shame.

        • Jeanine Schaefer

          since WHEN is Jesus SHAME? I must have missed that part of the Bible. I remember God is love. God is just. God is merciful. Jesus fed the 5000 and Jesus told the adulterous woman to go and sin no more…still don’t recall the shame part.

          • Lark62

            I base that assessment on the conduct of his followers. If you don’t like my conclusion, Christians should look to their behavior. Because all I see for miles is judging and shaming and damn little compassion or empathy.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            There are so many people and you assess that on SOME you have seen that CLAIM to be his followers. I can read your statement about how YOU are judging people who say they are Christians. Should I automatically decide that YOU are a judgmental person? I don’t even know you. I also know that when a person decides to become a follower of Christ, they don’t automatically become perfect, as much as they would LIKE to be. NO, they are changed from the inside as their Savior Jesus teaches them, graciously, to be more like Himself. For he loved us, before we loved him. He will KEEP working on us, until the day we die, or until He returns. Sadly, followers WILL keep messing up!!! But because the followers fail does NOT mean that JESUS is shame. That would be like if a family member put on your clothes, went to the the bank, and got some money out of your account, BUT did NOT give you the money. When you noticed money was missing, the bank stated, but it was your clothes and they had your last name, and they looked similar to you! Just because something is close or similar, does NOT make it the same!

            Jesus is NOT shame…….He is quite the opposite. He is freedom!

      • Reason2012

        They open their doors to everyone – the issue is being forced to instead promote acts that violate their beliefs. But of course the activists lie and claim they won’t serve them at all.

        • amostpolitedebate

          …What?

          I seriously have no idea what the words you just wrote are supposed to mean.

          “They open their doors to everyone” – They did? Boys still aren’t allowed to join last I checked. Am I missing something here?

          “the issue is being forced to instead promote acts that violate their beliefs.” – Gender identity isn’t an act, it’s a state of mind. Letting trans kids in doesn’t “promote” anything other than being nice to trans kids. Is the “being nice” part thing you have a problem with? Also, how does this violate their beliefs if they themselves decided to do it?

          “But of course the activists lie and claim they won’t serve them at all.” – What? Who are you saying won’t serve who now? Are you saying that Girl Scouts won’t actually let trans kids in? What are activists lying about exactly? I’m very confused right now.

          • Reason2012

            Boys can join boy scouts. And girls have the right to join the girl scouts knowing those kids with male genitalia (a.k.a., boys) will be joining the boy scouts instead. Parents have this expectation too – more so when their kids are going on overnight camping trips.

            So is being a human being a state of mind too? If someone “feels” they are a dog instead, would that make this also trump genetics and hence become true as well? If it doesn’t, it’s hypocritical to say sometimes genetics matter, and other times how you “feel” trumps genetics.

            Boy scouts serve boys, girl scouts serve girls. The expectation is there that they will not be exposed to those of the opposite gender being a part of it as well, otherwise, it’s no longer the boy-scouts or the girl-scouts.

          • amostpolitedebate

            There actually are people out there that feel that they’re animals in people’s bodies. Google it the next time you get bored. They’re so exceptionally rare though that there’s really no point in making laws for them at the moment. Plus there are probably practical arguments that could be made to keep them out of facilities for animals.

            More to your point, the scouts are private organizations that are free to open their doors to whoever they wish. Just because you don’t consider trans people to be “boys” or “girls” doesn’t mean that the leadership in the scouts has to agree with your point of view.

          • Brenda Cressey

            If they are free to open their doors to whoever they wish then they are also free to close their doors to whoever they wish. The Boy Scouts still don’t allow gay leaders and they also don’t allow atheists or agnostics either.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            Too bad that a gay boy scout can dedicte his young life to the scouts, then be tossed out when he’s older and wants to turn around and give back the joys and rewards he discovered, but can no longer lead and guide his fellow younger gay boy scouts.

            Or have his gay father participate in leadership, because the Boy Scouts of America has a fear of … you name it.

            Come join the Boy Scouts, and learn FEAR of ‘other’!

            You, and they, make no sense.

            But I am taking action.

            I will NEVER purchase Boy Scout cookies …

            … until they open their doors and leadership to self-identifying males regardless of sexual-preference or personal, private attitude towards the theory and teaching of any one or another God.
            .

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            @Reason2012, your lack of knowledge could empty an encyclopedia.

            Gender reassignment surgery is self-chosen by people of legal age, you dolt, not inflicted by parents on under-age children.

            Except when doctors push parents to reassign a baby because the doctors and parents are confused and unreasonably fearful.

            At most, children are offered hormone treatments to delay gender-specific effects of puberty, most such hormone treatments are reversible over time if the child decides, but by delaying puberty, the child has more choices when they are of age to proceed or not with full gender reassignment surgery.

            Most cildren have a definitive sexual identity by age three, totally uninfluenced by outside forces such as liberalism or alternative lifestyles in the news — also uninfluenced by family.

            The horrors of being forced to live against one’s identity are immeasurable.

            Please go out and learn something new, and put a damper on your self-fear and self-loathing, which you manifest as vitriolic attacks on others, especially the innocent.

            This is a CHRISTIAN web site, for Christ’s sake.

            Show a little compassion, especially for CHILDREN.

            #LeelahAlcorn
            .

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .

          @Reason2012 wrote “… They open their doors to everyone – the issue is being forced to instead promote acts that violate their beliefs. But of course the activists lie and claim they won’t serve them at all …”.

          Huh?

          I’d ask you to rephrase and explain, but I can’t believe even YOU know what you are trying to say.
          .

    • Katie Pond

      Stop being so ignorant.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      Wow, @Reason2012, you know nothing about transgender, and prove it by your writing.

      Instead, try learning, try reading, and try listening.

      #LeelahAlcorn
      .

      • Conservative Mark

        I read the book, THE HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA. That was all I needed to know… the end game.

    • edward martis

      “PERVISION INDOCTRINATION” in a very non threatening way……This is what the gays do best……..Smile in your face and then knife you……You hit that nail right on the very large head——-Like a child molester saying “Trust me”

  • Jeanine Schaefer

    Substituting ANY words for the words of God is wrong, what part of Do not Do Not change these words in this book do they not understand?

    • amostpolitedebate

      I’m sorry you’re forced to live in a multicultural society where you occasionally have to interact with people who’s backgrounds differ from your own. That must be very hard.

    • Tristan A

      Love your neighbor as you love yourself. Which part of that sentence do you not understand?

      • Jeanine Schaefer

        Revelation 22:18
        I
        warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If
        anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues
        described in this scroll.

        Revelation 22:19
        And
        if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take
        away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy
        City, which are described in this scroll.

        Deuteronomy 4:2
        Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

        I said NOTHING about multicultural. I was talking ABOUT allowing them to CHANGE the words of God for different words (in the pledge). What part of READING did YOU fail???? That has NOTHING to do with different backgrounds or cultures. To ALLOW people to CHANGE the word of God to something else, to fit themselves, and make ANY kind of lifestyle, sin, culture, or desire ok, EVEN If it would SEEM like something good to all, IF it is DIFFERENT than the word of God, than it self-serving, against God, and WRONG, If it is against God and wrong, then it would be UNLOVING of our neighbors to just let them continue in their folly.

        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          Amen.

          • amostpolitedebate

            Insightful commentary as always, Bird!

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            🙂 Shalom 🙂 <

        • amostpolitedebate

          “If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.”

          Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB

          So what are your opinions on what we should do with women who don’t yell loudly enough when raped?

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            First off, what would that have to do with the Bible verse, as trying to apply your comment to it would be taking it COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT. Second, how does this respond to my original comment? OH, it doesn’t…….

          • amostpolitedebate

            You just told us that we can’t do something because it was written in the book of Deuteronomy, AKA “That book most Christians try to explain out of existence because it’s completely off it’s meds”. I’m merely pointing out that this same book you claim to take so seriously has a lot of stuff in it that you seem to ignore/haven’t read/pretend doesn’t exist. Which begs the question, if you’re allowed to ignore the law that I posted, why should I care if other people/organizations do the same thing just because they do it to parts of the bible that you happen to like?

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            I’m not ignoring any part of the Bible, I take them IN CONTEXT. I happened to ignore respond aswering your question about it because it has NOTHING to do witI the original topic, unlike when I added verses that supported the same thing I started to talk about ORIGINALLY.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            I try to use the entire Bible IN CONTEXT. I ignored your attempt at a red herring because it had NOTHING to do with the ORIGINAL topic. I also used the additional Deut. verse AND then the additional Revelation verse that you did NOT mention because it supported the ORIGINAL topic.

          • amostpolitedebate

            OK, so if you click the little ” – ” symbol at the top of your post you can delete your duplicate posts FYI.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            I like to take the entire Bible IN CONTEXT. I ignored your attempt at a red herring because it had NOTHING to do with the ORIGINAL topic. I also added the Deut verse AND additional Revelation verse that you did NOT mention because it supported the ORIGINAL topic. I could easily go into CONTEXT, and ALSO MENTION the next verse too. Deut, 22:23-25 is generally talking about adultery. There weren’t Windows at the time and buildings were close together. The verse states that they lie together or they meet. NEVER that he forced himself on her, so if they meet have sex in the city where it is HARD to be missed, and she doesn’t make ANY SIGN OF DISTRESS( cry out- you wouldn’t have to be loud to be noticed) , she’s in on the adultery. If ( verse 25, you DIDN’T include this verse) in the country, it’s not as close as living quarters, women are wwomen STILL let their brothers or fathers escort them for safety, so if she shows signs is DISTRESS , the man involved would have been killed, at that time. Since then, Jesus has fufilled the law. So we are not required to stone adulterers, rapists, or liars or anyone else anymore. But we ARE supposed to obey him and his word, that REQUIRES taking it in CONTEXT.

          • amostpolitedebate

            LOL! So yes, at one point in time we as a society were supposed to kill women who are raped (and adulterers apparently) because if she didn’t yell she must have been doing it on purpose. I mean, there were people RIGHT THERE! What? He had a knife to your throat? Too bad.

            Also, I love this “Jesus fulfilled the OT law” nonsense Christians like to bring out when they’re forced to deal with the uglier stuff in the bible. Tell me, how exactly did you decide that stoning people to death has been “fulfilled” away but not the parts about gay sex?

            And for that matter why do Christians obsessively focus on gay sex? Why do we not see any efforts to execute (or at least incarcerate) women who have sex before their wedding night?

            “But if this charge is true (that she wasn’t a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father’s house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.

            (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)”

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            Wow, you STILL DON’T want to talk about the ORIGINAL topic, but would rather turn this into a Bible study? Do you love the Bible that much????

            I have NO problem discussing the Bible for as long as you want……I just find it silly that you are AVOIDING THE ORIGINAL TOPIC.

            Jesus DID fufill the laws of the OLD TESTAMENT. He satisfied everyone one of them by his sacrifice of HIMSELF on the cross for our sins and we are NO LONGER REQUIRED to sacrifice animals for the covering of sins, to execute people for theirs, or to HAVE to do every single commandment to remain pure, BUT He did NOT abolish the law. So the laws are still good to learn from- IN CONTEXT. (otherwise we would have just stopped using the OT altogether) Also, there are different TYPES of laws in the OT, but I’ll get into that in my next comment, if you like. ( like some were written to Isrealites -we are gentiles) Christ did what no other had or could. He remained PERFECT all his life so that he was the PERFECT sacrifice, to take our place, that we deserve for each of our own sins. BUT, we each MUST accept him and believe that he is God for us to be saved.
            Homosexuaity is in both the old AND the new testament. The reason why it is being “focused on” is because is is a cultural focus. EVERYONE is focusing on it right now. However, while being homosexual won’t send you to hell anymore than being heterosexual gets you into heaven, the part that is being focused on is the action side, just like any other sin, but this lifestyle wants to make a sin action NOT a sin. For example, if you owned a store and needed to hire a cashier. Your two choices are a person that USED to be a thief, but says they have stopped, that they don’t steal anymore, they have paid back as many people as they could, and they haven’t stolen anything in 2 yrs. The next person you could possibly hire says that they ARE a thief, and that they plan to keep stealing as much as possible in the future. Which of the two candidates would you want to hire? One has stopped stealing and one PLANS to CONTINUE stealing.

            it is the same with the homosexual lifestyle, they plan to CONTINUE the ACTION. Temptation is not a sin, the ACTION is. So basically, they plan to WILLFULLY SIN. Then they want Christians to not call that ACTION a sin.

          • amostpolitedebate

            Also, to answer your actual question more directly, nobody is changing anything in the bible. The scouts are just saying that non-Christians are allowed to join and can hold to whatever version of “God” that they like.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            Non-Christians have ALWAYS been allowed to join, just like people of any race or background. There has NEVER been a big sign (or a little one) That has said Christians ONLY.

            The pledge in itself does NOT even say JESUS. But yes, these ARE obviously Christian morals that not everyone believes in. To allow people to hold to different “gods” also allows them to hold their different morals of those “gods” like for muslims-Their god- Allah,some of their morals-killing all non-muslims for jihad and women aren’t really human beings but more like temptations to men, Judiaism- Their God-Jehovah, some of their morals-Marriage and children are held in high regard by Judaism. Singleness is looked down on even for religious leaders, Buddism-Their god-Buddhism is a non-theistic religion, meaning that the nature of
            God is not pertinent to Buddhist teachings. In Buddhism, gods do exist,
            but are largely imported from early Vedic (Hindu) teachings. However,
            the gods play minor roles in Buddhism as protectors of the Buddha and
            his teachings, and do not serve as “creators” in the sense normally
            found in Western, Abrahmic, religions.
            Additionally, in the
            six-levels of rebirth found in Buddhism, the highest of the realms is
            the realm of rebirth as a god-like being, or deva. Beings who are especially virtuous or generous may be reborn in this state. However,
            the Buddha cautions that this state of rebirth, like all states, is
            impermanent, and is not the end-goal of Buddhism. Buddhism seeks
            emancipation from the entire cycle of rebirth (in other words-annihilation) , Some of their morals-The Pancha Shila, or five moral precepts:
            1. Avoid killing, or harming any
            living thing.
            2. Avoid stealing — taking what is
            not yours to take.
            3. Avoid sexual irresponsibility,
            which for monks and nuns means
            celibacy.
            4. Avoid lying, or any hurtful speech.

            5. Avoid alcohol and drugs which
            diminish clarity of consciousness.

            Hindus-Their god-It has been said that Hinduism is a religion of 330 million Hinduism
            gods. Sri Ramakrishna, a prominent Hindu saint once wrote, “There can be
            as many Hindu Gods as there are devotees to suit the moods, feelings,
            emotions and social backgrounds of the devotees.”,-some of their morals-Hindus believe in reincarnation — the cycle of life, death and rebirth. According to Hinduism, all humans are born with certain duties. These duties are specific to a person’s gender, caste and age. Hindus who practice Raja Yoga (one school of Hindu philosophy) place
            value on 20 essential morals called yamas and niyamas. The yamas refer to a person’s behavior in day-to-day life. They include asteya (nonstealing), satya (truthfulness), arjhava (honesty) and daya
            (compassion). The first yama, however, is ahimsa (nonviolence), and it is this core Hindu moral of nonviolence that serves as the foundation on
            which all other Hindu yamas are built.

            God/Jesus – ONLY LIVING God that offers Grace.

            We have all sinned and deserve God’s judgment. God, the Father, sent His only Son to satisfy that judgment for those who believe in Him. Jesus, the creator and eternal Son of God, who lived a sinless life, loves us so much that He died for our sins, taking the punishment that we deserve, was buried, and rose from the dead according to the Bible. If you truly believe and repent, receiving Jesus alone as your Savior, declaring, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved from judgment and spend eternity with God in heaven.

            Two most important premises 1)Love God with all your whole heart, mind, and strength 2)Love your neighbor as yourself
            With different morals, comes different focus and it becomes hard to accomplish anything or agree upon a common vision or mission. Different backgrounds and cultures has ALWAYS been a factor. To accomplish a unifying and friendship building focus, having common goals, and morals is very esteem building. And if you have morals, they must have come from a moral giver….and that is God. And each child KNOWS that their non-god’, goddess”, gods, or whatever does or does not fit the morals that are set out each week when they hear them. (like women’s value and worth-works with Christianity!)

            The Girl Scout Promise

            On my honor, I will try:
            To serve God and my country, (in that order)
            To help people at all times, (this means ALL people)
            And to live by the Girl Scout Law.

            The Girl Scout Law

            I will do my best to be
            honest and fair, (this means at ALL times and to ALL people)
            friendly and helpful, (same as above)
            considerate and caring, (same as above)
            courageous and strong, and (same as above)
            responsible for what I say and do, (same as above)
            and to
            respect myself and others, (same as above)
            respect authority, (same as above)
            use resources wisely, (ALL kinds of resources, At ALL times)
            make the world a better place and
            be a sister to every Girl Scout.

            If you change the wording, to WHOMEVER, You also change the meaning of it. How will the HIndus get 330 million gods names in there? or if you pledge to NOONE, does the pledge mean NOTHING? It changes the meaning in it’s entirety, While if you are pledging to God that has made these morals in the first place, you know what they mean and to whom. to change them MEANS something. to substitute Gods name MEANS something.

          • amostpolitedebate

            …What?

  • bowie1

    Transgender at that age? I would have thought, legally, they would not be allowed to decide that until at least 18 years of age. After all, they’ve banned gay therapy to minors for kids who want to leave homosexuality.

    • MisterPine

      There is no “leaving” homosexuality. I am appalled that people still believe this. If you are homosexual, then that’s what you are. You can’t change. But this story isn’t about homosexuality at all, it’s about transgenders, so I’m not sure why homosexuality is even being mentioned.

      • bowie1

        It was mainly in reference to gay therapy which I believe has been banned in some states and thus minors are not allowed to take it. But now they are allowing minors to decide on their alleged transgenderism. It was meant as a comparison.

        • amostpolitedebate

          Even if sexuality somehow can be changed those therapies are terrible and tend to seriously mess up the people they’re designed to help. They don’t even really work. The people who run them just count everyone who verbally agrees to stop having gay sex as a “success” story regardless of whether or not the underlying attractions/urges have changed. They’ll even tell you as much if you can pin them into giving you a real answer.

          Trust me. Those therapies are NOT a real solution.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            Plus, there is no “problem” that gay therapies address.
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        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          What you said is true.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          @bowie1,

          Gay therapy tries to deny the person’s self-identy.

          Accepting transgender is, well, accepting the person’s self-idenity.

          Your comparison is apt if backwards … due to ignorance?

          #LeelahAlcorn
          .

      • Mark Barker

        BS. There are plenty of documented cases where people who have lived as homosexuals got saved and turned away from that sin. One of my first cousins is one. Having had first hand experience, I know your statement is false. Just because you gave up, doesn’t mean it can’t be done.

        • MisterPine

          BS yourself. Your cousin didn’t do the impossible. He probably was guilted by his church into living an abstinent life. That is not a success story. In fact it’s quite sad.

        • Tristan A

          I bet you still believe the earth to be flat as well? And the earth still to be the middle of our solar system?

        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          Amen ! God is able to Deliver them.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            Are you referring to the movie “Deliverance”?!?

            😉

            .

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          Oh please, @Mark Barker, tell us more about your first hand experience with homosexuality.

          =8^o

          Your snip of a story does not offer any suggestion that yout cousin was no longer “a homosexual” regardless of his evolving choices of behavior.

          Celebate?

          Having heterosex on occasion to have kids with willing wifey?

          Ahh, we have nothing to add about transgender, so let’s chat homosexuality.
          .

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      @bowie1,

      Don’t confuse being transgender (the person) with gender reassignment surgery (an adult’s self-choice of an action).

      Most kids know by age 3 that they are in the wrong body or not.
      .

  • Deina

    A great big Bravo Zulu! to the Girl Scouts! ٩(⁎❛ᴗ❛⁎)۶

    You girls rock!!! ❀❀❀

  • The Last Trump

    So sad to see the Boy and Girl Scouts of America victimized by the militant LGBT agenda once again. These predators just can’t seem to leave our children alone.
    You want to be a special “class”? Then form a special group. The Transgender Scouts of America. No reason to integrate with the boys and girls who have “accepted” the fact that they were born boys and girls. No reason to subject these well adjusted kids to gender confusion when there doesn’t need to be any. Transgenders get their own bathrooms in many places in mentally ill liberal America today. Time to get their own clubs too.
    Our kids are off limits. Recruit elsewhere. Thanks.

    • Lori Campanella Durand

      Yeah, we wouldn’t want integration. Just imagine what would happen if girls of different races, classes, and religions started intermingling!

      • The Last Trump

        We’ve had that for a long time now haven’t we troll?
        Try to stay on target, hmmm.

        • Lori Campanella Durand

          There is no distinction.

          I’m sorry if my different opinion is threatening to you. Just expressing a viewpoint. I don’t think disagreeing makes me a troll.

          • MisterPine

            Last Trump will call ANYONE a troll who disagrees with him.

      • Jeanine Schaefer

        They STARTED that way. NOW they will have every sex in the GIRL SCOUTS, but all in the same teepee in camp. Boy, will THAT be comfortable! *sarcastic tone

        • amostpolitedebate

          They will have like one transgender girl for every several dozen troupes. There really aren’t that many transgender people out in the open at that age and even fewer will want to join the girl scouts specifically. I imagine that the few troupes out there who DO get a trans kid will get over it in time. Especially if they were open to the idea in the first place.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            And exactly how do you know that?

          • amostpolitedebate

            Because our best guess right now is that transgender people make up about 0.3 percent of the population. Assuming that trans people join the scouts at the same rate as non-trans people this means that for every 1000 girls who join the scouts roughly three will be trans.

            Now, your average girl scout troop is what, 20 people? That means that out of 50 troops of 20 girls only 3 will have a trans person in it, or roughly 1 for every 17 troops. Factor in the fact that most trans kids aren’t out until later in life and not all of them necessarily want to be girl scouts and suddenly that number can easily double or triple in size.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            WHO’S best GUESS? Love the math, but starting with a giant GUESS from SOMEONE??? doesn’t add validity to your argument.

          • amostpolitedebate

            0.3% is what Wikipedia is telling me anyways. If you have a better number I’d love to hear it.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            It’s not an argument.

            Jeeze.

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            Arguments are NOT always fighting back and forth. logical argument – a course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating a truth or falsehood;

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            She said IMAGINE, not KNOW.
            .

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          EVERY sex?

          Oh my!
          .

          • Jeanine Schaefer

            sorry, should have said, every GENDER. there are now over 42 last I saw the gender identities listed…

    • Lark62

      How is the organization being victimized? They chose to make this change.

      Predators? What is it about christianity that makes its adherents so completely devoid of empathy and compassion?

    • MisterPine

      QUOTE SUBMITTED, Rumpy!
      http://www.fstdt. com
      Look up “Last Trump”

    • Katie Pond

      You’re just ignorant.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      Oh, I GOTTA see this — GAYS WITH GUNS … come OUT to see the MILITANT LGBT AGENDA!

      Are there REALLY people who are so stupid when it comes to learning about transgender?

      And why so MEAN?

      @LeelahAlcorn

      .

  • Levi

    A great big Shame On You to the Girl/Gender Confused Boy Scouts of America. There was no need to change your focus on serving God. You’ve allowed the Godless and those who are intolerant of God and His people to pervert and change your ways so that you promote harming children both pracitcally and Spiritually. What a shame. No more cookies for me from your organization…it’s clear that you are eager to please the Godless rather than God and those who love Him.

    • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

      No more cookies for me as well.

      • Brenda Cressey

        me either!

        • amostpolitedebate

          Guess I’m buying extra then. Tis’ a heavy burden but I shall bear it in the name of equality.

          • Brenda Cressey

            Hey honey, I’m not the one you have to answer to. God is.

          • amostpolitedebate

            You heard it here folks. I’m going to hell because I bought a couple extra boxes of thin mints.

            (So worth it!)

          • Brenda Cressey

            I did not say you were going to hell for buying cookies. I didn’t say you were going to hell for anything. YOU DID.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            You said she’s have to answer to God.

            Actually, she’s acting BEFORE answering to God by doing Jesus’s requests right here and now — supporting those who support the little children.

            You?
            .

          • Deina

            Oh, no, dear! Got to be the Samoas®

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            God eats real Girl Scout cookies.

            God loves all God’s work.

            ESPECIALLY children.

            Especially outcast children.

            Especailly the children society — and some poster here — seem afraid of and desire to cast out of their hearts.

            The heart of God has no problem with his own creation.

            Why would any of us?

            #LeelahAlcorn
            .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            Amen !

          • Taussig

            Me too!

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Yum!

            Me either!
            .

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          … neither …
          .

          • Brenda Cressey

            Oh good we’re on the same page now!

      • edward martis

        Ever get the feeling the psycotic Libs are winning EVERYTHING !—-Our country has had IT !!—-It is time for me to use my brand new Canadian citizenship and go back to my mothers country—St John, New Brunswick (about 60 miles north of the Maine border on the Atlantic)====cold winters, but beautiful )–Our country is turning into a genuine ‘Insane Asylum’—It is time to get off the RMS Titanic

        • UmustBKiddinMe

          Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

          • edward martis

            see above …………….

          • UmustBKiddinMe

            You will not be missed. It is to no one’s benefit to someone living here who is so dissatisfied with nation.

            Isn’t it great that you live in a country where you are free to leave? I sure think it is!

          • edward martis

            When oshit destroys you and your family—I will meet you at the Maine US/ Calais, New Brunswick border —-The Canadians will not let you in as a ‘refugee’—–I do not want to live in a country that is destroying itself– and shows no signs of improving -No thank you very much—-Have a good life under progressive liberal- communism

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Oh yes, @edward martis,

            America sux.

            I mean, it has all these … AMERICANS in it.

            Actaully living free under a Constitution where they’re considered, dare I say it … EQUAL!

            No only equal to each other, but, what’s worse, equal to white monied Christian-identifying straight men of European extraction.

            HOW DARE THEY?!?

            RUN FOR YOUR LIVES ! ! !
            .

          • edward martis

            What do you think Canada is ? A communist state ? Do you think Canada is some sort of ‘insane asylum’ over run with ‘illegals’ and gangs like the USA ? Canada is what the US should be…Do you think Canadians are not free and do not have a Constitution and not EQUAL in every way ? In my visits to St. John; all of my relatives (some of who have duel citizen ship….Canada and USA) are quite happy there ……..and do not want the endless,, endless problems of the USA. Can you blame them ?

          • edward martis

            the only real difference between Canada and the USA is the accents and none of the USA’s massive off the wall charts problems and crime……..my cousin’s just shake their heads and wonder how low the US will go…… You KNOW and I KNOW that the problems of the USA will only get much worse….

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            You seem unable to live in an equal society, @edwardmartis:disqus, and you will take your inability wherever you go

            I also have a home in NB, and I look forward to being neighbors.

            See you real soon!
            .

          • edward martis

            I am sick to death of latino gangs, black gangs, welfare folks, illegal ailiens and all that are sucking the life out the US —–I was born and raised in Boston of Canadian /Irish parents where everybody worked except the above…..I worked for the ‘longshoremans union’ in Boston for awhile in the 70’s ; when some welfare sucking NAACP types tried to force (affirmative action) their way in to the union…….About a week later; they found their bodies in Boston Harbor . The NAACP NEVER tried again…..Multi-culturealism does not work——The only contact I had with blacks (from Roxbury) was when they came to Irish South Boston to steal cars and break into houses; and that did not last long—These folks wound up seriously hurt or dead—-If you like living in an equal society; move to NYC, Chicago, Flint, Detroit and good luck to you. Remember to have a gun in your pocket….also, fuck with the Italians in East Boston and you will find yourself on a meat hook in a freezer. Have your self a nice equal society day——Just ask the Germans, French, Brits, Dutch how muti-cultureism is working out for them with the Muslims and North Africans——

          • amostpolitedebate

            postracialamerica.txt

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Oh, no, PLEASE let the door, doorframe, heck, the whole house hit them on the way out.

            And PLEASE let them suffer being tossed out of Canada because, up there, they have HIGH STANDARDS for landed immigrants!

            =8^o

            .

        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          I agree.

          • edward martis

            I will not miss the hundreds of thousands of murdering, criminal black and latino ,gangstas;; the millions and millions of illegal ailiens , sucking the US dry in every way (schools, welfare, prisons, health care and everything else with no end in site) —the public schools and universities “indoctrination” to ‘progressive liberalism’ ie. communism. —- Unless the USA gets some strong leaders (?) —good luck with that—-the US cannot survive…..I live 30 miles south of SFO and have seen the destruction of CA; up close and personal ….The US is turning into a puss filled sore………….

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            It sure is. But I don’t see it getting better anytime soon though. The U.S. will not survive much longer. It might be too late …….

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Very definitive on a CHRISTIAN website, @LadyFreeBird<God’sNotDead,

            Jump right to the racist white supremacist hateful bigotry.

            Why wait?

            You do know Jesus was a poor black homeless nationless immigrant wandering the streets with a gang of men men men men men men men men men men men men, hung out with sluts, had a foot fetish with them, saved adulterers, dished out free food to hangers-on, wore sandals and no underwear, isn’t known to have bathed but once, and spoke not a word of English … wasn’t even American.

            Doesn’t anybody mind the door on this CHRISTIAN web site — do they let just ANYBODY in?!?
            .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            One day you will face God. I hope He lets me face you as well as there some things I would like to say to you . On the other side of Life. You do your best to make others feel bad. One day they will laugh. One day you will no longer laugh. You will one day see the ones who Deceived you. You will find out they *Demons * hated you as much as you hated Christians . The only thing is you will not be able to get a way from them. All your hate will Return to you . And the Peace of God will rest on the ones you hate.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Well, @edward matis,

            Since this is a thread about accepting children who are transgender, yet you dump your racist white supremacist hateful bigotry, I wonder if you care about children at all, or are you just looking for a platform from which to spill your bile?
            .

          • edward martis

            so you want to mix these transgender kids in with my two girls ? I DO NOT THINK SO !!!!!

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            Your two girls are Girl Scouts, @edwardmartis:disqus?

            Good for them.

            At least THEY are connecting with people of Christian tolerance and acceptance.

            To bad they get that denigrated when they get home.
            .

          • edward martis

            you know what—fuck you ! when was the last time a homo, trans sexual, transgender, or transvestite was tolerant with anybody that did not agree with him/her—-“Pervision Indoctrination” sound familiar ? I am called ‘narrowminded’ because I have no desire to have another man’s penis in my mouth or anus and I should approve that lifestyle and be “tolerant” again FUCK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • amostpolitedebate

            The poor man is clearly having some sort of episode. Please don’t encourage him.

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            can;t help it . Can I ??
            Shalom <

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          @edward martis, please explain the link you see between being a transgender child, and politics at all, let alone liberal politics?

          Canada is nice, though, leading the US by having gay marriage countrywide for years.

          Our family has property in New Brunswick, Canada, across the Maine border on Passamaquoddy Bay, and a map of the Appalachian Trail in pocket in case we need to travel off-road, since the Viet Nam war draft.

          You’re right, Canada is a great escape from American insanity.

          #LeelahAlcorn
          .

          • edward martis

            I presently live 30 mi. south of SFO—-a liberal workers progressive socialist communist paradise——with 7000+ crazy, drug addled, criminal homeless and the highest pop. of “gays” in the USA—–AIDs/ HIV etc everywhere—SFO is referred to as “Pelosi’s Perdition” or ‘the longest open trench sewer’ in the USA–and smells like it–This is what libs do best—-Destroy cities—-Flint, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Fergerson, NYC, Washington DC—and many others…….If for any reason you come to ‘liberal heaven” SFO; come armed with MACE—-I have MACED about a dozen so far—–robbers, purse snatchers and drug dealers (from Oakland) abound——Tourists have no idea what awaits them when they get off the cable car at the foot of Powell St (Market St for the ‘turnaround) after boarding it at Pier 39…….they are assaulted by in your face DEMANDING !!!! money homeless pickpockets / purse-snatchers etc. to no end——If you have children with you —good luck and God help them…….SFO is a VERY DANGEROUS city….oh yeah; the libs have destroyed SFO too and all the cities of the SFO Bay area….SFO is the ‘model’ for the liberal cause as well as Oakland (7 X 8 miles) , a very small city and the 5th most dangerous city in the USA——LIBERALS DESTROY CITIES !!!!! and are very good at it………….

          • edward martis

            and to move there permanently is a very good move—–Face it; the USA has had IT !! and again; will only get worse

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            See you in NB, neighbor!

            😉

            .

          • edward martis

            if I ever run across you in the Saint John East area (not likely) or if you ever track me down somehow—-I will make you wish I never did…Comprendo

          • edward martis

            I could give a shit less about 2 gays getting married; but when they start interfering with my family and my kids …..THATS IT !! ENOUGH !!

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            But, @edwardmartis:disqus, your family and kids ARE gay — as gays ARE God’s family.

            Throughout history, our country has grown stronger with the recognition and integration of more and more minorities of we-the-people, where once we ignored women, people of color, the handicapped, foreigners, people of differing faiths, and so on — it may take forever, but we will keep at it until ALL are actually included in “ALL are equal”.

            And that means … well … ALL.

            What, gays and trans now too … equal?

            Why not?

            Yes, gays and trans are we-the-people too.

            In fact,

            — gays and trans are our children,

            — gays and trans are our siblings,

            — gays and trans are our parents,

            — gays and trans are our neighbors and friends,

            — gays and trans are our customers, our co-workers, our bosses,

            — gays and trans are our fellow tax payers, our service providers,

            — gays and trans are our governmental and military service members, putting their lives on the line for all of us,

            — gays and trans are ourselves.

            Shame on anyone for thinking gays and trans or anyone should be second class citizens, denied equivalent consideration, equal protection and due process.

            Shame on any of us for inflicting our fears and personal choice of what is a sin for ourselves onto others.

            No more second class citizens, ever, please.

            .

          • edward martis

            you are so full of gay propaganda bullshit ; I am surprised your ass does not bleed……..I have heard similar ravings from NAMBLA and those child molesters are children of God too….

          • Brenda Cressey

            His ass bleeds all the time….thats what happens when you have too much anal sex. Give him a tampon and some mydol and maybe he will shut up and go away.

          • edward martis

            ever notice that you will be called ‘narrowminded” if you do not go along with the gay agenda——just because I do want another mans penis in my mouth or anus (sorry to be crude) and will not approve of their nasty lifestyle——these Castro St slime are located no less than a mile from Pelosis office; in that I mean NAMBLA’s office——are you familiar with NAMBLA (man-boy love assn. ? they are on google—–just look up these professional child molesters…their motto is ‘if they are 8; it is too late’———I live 30 miles south of SFO and are very familiar with these vile people..

          • amostpolitedebate

            “just because I do want another mans penis in my mouth or anus”

            Freudian slip spotted! :3

          • amostpolitedebate

            Why are Christians so obsessed with buttsex anyways? Not all gay people have the buttsex you know.

            And why is it such an insult? Straight people do it all the time but I don’t see anyone accusing them of having constantly bleeding rectums.

          • Brenda Cressey

            We’re not obsessed with butt sex. At least I’m not. If you like it up the ass then good for you. It was meant as an insult to the person I said it about because he’s an asshole. And I’m pretty sure gay guys (I know many) don’t just do oral sex so where else can they stick it? Never mind don’t answer that LOL

          • amostpolitedebate

            I was actually referring to lesbians but there are actually a healthy number of oral-only male couples out there as well.

            In any case, if you don’t see anything wrong with it why did you basically just point at that guy and shout “Oh yeah!? Well you LIKE THINGS IN YOUR BUTT YOU BUTT-STUFF LIKER YOU!”? I don’t know it’s just really weird to me that that’s the first place Christians go when they want to insult a gay person.

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            He is trying to get under our skin. He is just a troll.

          • amostpolitedebate

            Christian unironically comparing consenting adults in a loving relationship to child rape spotted!

        • Brenda Cressey

          I might follow you lol I’m already in Maine so I won’t have far to go!

          • edward martis

            be advised that getting a ‘green card’ in Canada is not easy and I hope you can be self sufficient—-getting a job there is damn near impossible or so I have heard—-you may be well advised to go up there and ask about everything—housing/banking/jobs/ buying a house/ apt. rental etc etc——I had to wait a year to get my Canadian Citizen Cert. and that was only because my mother was Canadian by birth and I was born in Boston of a Canadian citizen and US Navy sailor in 1945–( I never knew- until a year and a half ago)-My mother became a US Naturalized Citizen in 1957; but was still a Canadian Citizen (duel citizenship)—-I had a friend go up to Windsor, Ontario looking for a job in Canada—-Canadian Customs would not let him in———–you will have to check all of this out first—–being a US Citizen—–long term visas (?) and what you allowed as a ‘green carder’ to do legally etc.

          • edward martis

            what city in Maine do you live-?—-my parents used to do the vacation thing up there when I was kid—saco–Biddeford pool–wells beach===etc

      • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

        .
        That’s okay, @LadyFreeBird<God’sNotDead,

        Girl Scout cookies were not made with REAL Girl Scouts anyway.

        =8^o

        .

    • Brenda Cressey

      I stopped buying their cookies when I learned how much money from those sales went to planned parenthood to support abortions.

      • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

        .
        @Brenda Cressey, why not write to the Girls Scouts and ask that they print front and center on every box of cookies:

        [ All excess proceeds and profits
        go to RAPE PREVENTION
        — thank you. ]

        Let me know when you care enough about aboirtion to do the workd to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

        Thanks.
        .

        • Brenda Cressey

          Are you serious? You are wacko buddy. I happen to care very much about women allowing their unborn to be brutally torn to pieces while in their mothers womb. This world is so sick. If you don’t want to get pregnant DON’T HAVE SEX! That simple. Or just be gay then you can’t get pregnant at all.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

            .
            So, @brendacressey:disqus,

            You care SO MUCH about … life? … that you haven’t lifted a finger EVER to prevent rape.

            Got it.

            And the winner in the hypocrisy category is …
            .

          • Brenda Cressey

            I’m a rape victim myself…get a life scum bag

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            His life is making others feel bad. I too was a victim of rape when I was 13. I was Pro-Life Before,During and after that rape I am still Pro-life.

          • Brenda Cressey

            Rape and incest victims only account for 1% of all abortions WORLDWIDE……abortion was legalized as a means to eradicate the african american population in the US and it’s working out well. More blacks are killed by abortion every year than ANY other means. Get your facts straight before you go running your mouth you racist jerk.

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            He is trying to get under your skin. Most likely a Troll. Do’t let someone like him get to you.

      • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

        Wow I did not know that . Thank you . Now I have another reason not to buy their cookies.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      @Levi, please explain what being transgendered has to do with God.

      Thanks.
      .

    • edward martis

      Somebody had the correct label for all or this====”PERVISION INDOCTRINATION” —–If the shoe fits etc…….The SFO unified school district has been doing this for years—–I recently called the SFO U.S. D. and inquired the following====Does the SFO U. S, D. teach that sex with animals is OK ?? After being transferred all over the place; I could not get a straight answer from anybody……….and gave up……….

      • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

        .
        @edwardmartis:disqus, if you need to learn about sex with animals, I’ll bet they were trying to keep you on the line long enough to trace the call and send the Police to your phone number’s address to arrest you for obscene solicitation of a government employee illegal activities.

        Everyone knows that the best place to acquire the knowledge and experience you are after is in the barnyard of a fundamentalist religionist farmer.

        Eee-Iiiii-Eeee-Iiiii-Ooooooh!

        If you wanna know how animals do it, you’ve got to go live with them, and stop wandering the city streets peering in windows watching how people do it.

        You city slickers are so dumb!

        Geesh.
        .

        • edward martis

          God—I wish I knew where you lived——You are an evil son of a fag—–Apparently, you know all about sex with animals; because you are an animal yourself

  • Conservative Mark

    I remember when both the Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts were Christian-based organizations that met in churches… Well, thinking of the glass half-full, maybe a few rapes and some lawsuits will bury these progressives or, just maybe, if Islam does take over the world, they will be the first to get chop chopped!

    • Lori Campanella Durand

      Girl Scouts is open to all faiths, races, backgrounds.

    • Tristan A

      I think that those boy and girl scouts are much safer outside the church. All those dangerous priests with loose hands and their pants on their knees…

      • Conservative Mark

        Are you off your meds again, Tristan? LOL

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      Last child rapes I heard of we IN CHURCH.
      .

      • Conservative Mark

        So why did you stop watching the news about 20 years ago then? Islamic rapes of young children have been all over the news.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          So, @conservative_mark:disqus,

          Name ONE Islamic rape of a child in the venue we’re discussing:

          — Girl Scouts of the United States of America?
          .

          • Conservative Mark

            Name ONE Girl Scout rape of a child in a church! Idiot.

          • amostpolitedebate

            He makes a point. Of the many, many child-rapes that have happened in churches not one to my knowledge was a girl scout.

  • Millie Markoff

    the SICKO’S ARE AT IT AGAIN. THEY WON”T BE HAPPY UNTIL WE ALL THINK LIKE THEM. STOP TRYING TO FORCE THIS CRAP ON KIDS. GOD DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE AND PUT A BOY’S BRAIN IN A GIRL’S BODY OR A GIRL”S BRAIN IN A BOY’S BODY
    THE PERVERTS ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY

    • amostpolitedebate

      Why did you write this in all caps?

      • Deina

        Didn’t you get the memo?

        Putting it in all caps proves that what they say is the truth! (ಠ⌣ಠ)

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          Unable to understand plural versus possessive, either — why are fundies so self-inflicted illiterate?
          .

    • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

      THEY ALREADY DID. 🙁

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      Educate yourself, @milliemarkoff:disqus:

      — children self-identify their sexual identity around 3 years old, long before ANY influence from your so-called “sicko’s” (sic).

      #LeelahAlcorn

      .

  • Lori Campanella Durand

    Good job, Girl Scouts! Way to go! Show inclusion, tolerance, compassion, caring, and consideration. That is the GS Law.

  • sammy13

    It’s the Girl Scouts, not the Gender Confused Scouts. Start a new scouting organization and call it the LGBTQ Scouts. Never poison the well, dig a new one.

    • amostpolitedebate

      Why do you even care?

      I’m not being flippant or sarcastic by the way. I genuinely want to know why you feel it’s such a disaster that a private organization decided to let a few extra kids in.

      • Deina

        Apparently, he has no answer.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

      .
      Please quote ANY trans kid to show us why you consider “trans” = “confused”.
      .

  • Lark62

    The fact that this organization chooses to act with kindness and compassion does not actually harm you.

    Since christians claim to have cornered the market on kindness and compassion, this may make you look bad. Your choice to petition the organization to act with fear and prejudice instead of kindness and compassion makes you look pathetic. But the actions of the Girl Scouts still do not harm you.

    • Mark Barker

      I have no problem with any organization that wants to show compassion to people who will never know true compassion.

      • amostpolitedebate

        Wait. Are you saying that trans kids will never know true compassion?

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Boycott Girl Scouts. Sodom corrupts everything open to public and harms children. So sad. Things have to be organized by the Church for children to be safe in the land of Sodom.

    • MisterPine

      Sodom?
      What year is this?

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Revelation ch.4 – ch.20 is yet to be fulfilled.

        • MisterPine

          You’ll be waiting a while.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          Perhaps if you ATE your Bible …
          .

    • amostpolitedebate

      Gender Identity =/= Sexual Orientation

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Gender is one that you are born with till the end, and there is only one sexual orientation – the one for the opposite. Romance is only between one man and one woman. All other options are depravity and rebellious sin against God.

        • amostpolitedebate

          Is there a biblical argument against living as a different gender? I just realized I haven’t actually heard one yet. Keep in mind that having a different gender identity is NOT the same as being gay.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The whole Bible is against it. Read the whole text from Genesis 1. Gender is God’s decree and the creation order; transgender is canceling out what God had made just as abortion is, and many Biblical passages become meaningless if gender is switched just as good laws are meaningless to national traitors. Having the different gender identity from the natural gender identity which one is born with is a blatant rebellious sin directed at the Creator God.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            That’s a rather unsympathetic interpretation there, @gracekimkwon:disqus.

            You say the body (worldly?) MUST throw out the soul (other-worldly?), that if there is a girl-spirit inside a boy-body, the girl-spirit must be cast out.

            Why would you not interpret trans gender as celebrating what God created, according to Genesis?

            “… Hey, there’s a GIRL inside this boy’s body, let’s celebrate her! …”

            You seem to be self serving your own fears in vainglory, not serving God in all humility.
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          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are imagining stuff. Anyone can be enslaved by imaginations, feelings, and evil desires which are falsehood. Transgender is a rebelion against God, and those who are confused must obtain the truth by getting proper education from the Word of God.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          Ditto my last comment, you hateful bigot.
          .

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You should stop hating the truth. You secular Westerners are not sorry for colonization. Enough of your tyranny.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            @gracekimkwon:disqus, I apologize daily for the sins of my ancestors, and work to compensate for their damages, and to prevent it from happening again.

            Such as accepting trans gender children, rather then making them suffer as outcasts, rather than outlawing those who would accept and care for and include trans gender children as equal.

            You?

            Speaking of the damaging effects of colonization, it appears that you received a Middle-Eastern-originated Bible, probably from Europeans, yet your Korean cultural references are … what to you — inferior and unworthy compared to your colonizers?
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          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are far more guilty than all of your ancestors combined, spreading infanticide and Sodomy upon the earth; so just repent of your own sins. All your ancestors are totally innocent comparing to today’s secular Sodomic West. Don’t force your filthy immoral culture upon the nations this century. No thanks. Go down by yourself; don’t drag other nations into your own moral destructiveness. You need to repent of your own evil to get saved.

    • Tristan A

      Do yourself a favor and do a bit of research what the actual sin of sodom was… You night find yourself guilty of exactly the same…

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Read Genesis 19, Romans 1, and Jude as well. Sodom’s sin was homosexuality.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          Nope.

          Read it in the original language, not the cascade of mistranslations.

          Now, back to Girl Scout cookies, and welcoming transgender kids with open, loving arms.
          .

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Read the Biblical text in any language; it teaches the same thing – eternal condemnation of homosexual sin. Children need the truth. Transgender humans must stop rebeling against the Creator God and live with the original sex they were born with. Sodom’s “love” is a filthy falsehood. True love teaches God’s truth and does not impose Sodomic American culture.

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            (a) You are a blunt and brutal rubber mallet, @gracekimkwon:disqus, full of hate, prejudice, and self-superiority, whacking away at anything in your path.

            (b) Your own prior mis-point was about Sodom, and I noticed that you ignored it but kept writing anyway.

            (c) The TOPIC is TRANS GENDER, not homosexuality.

            (d) This TOPIC thread is on a CHRISTIAN web site, and is about the ACCEPTANCE OF TRANS GENDER CHILDREN.

            (e) Aside from your woefully un-Christian denigration of anyone in your path who shows acceptance of trans gender children, and your equally un-Christian disregard of trans gender children themselves, what DO you have to offer ON TOPIC?
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          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Transgender is a sin. A fact is a fact. Those confused children and adults must be called for giving up the sinful inclination.

    • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

      It is so sad that we can no longer trust the Girl scouts/ boy scouts any more.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        The Christian Church must begin private organizations for children again. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts have been hijacked by Sodom like public school are. Nowadays, “public” means immorality in the Western secular nations.

        • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

          That would be great.I would love to see that happen. Soon. there are so many Girls and Boys who needs a good and safe place to be together with other kids and have fun and to learn good values

          • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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            Ooo, the two of you could do a dance of joyful celebration of isolated bigotry.

            Just leave us Christians out of it — we want NOTHING to do with your hatred and bile.
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        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          @Grace Kim Kwon,

          You show the most immoral, hateful, bigotry of almost any poster I’ve read.

          I’d LOVE it if you’d go private.

          Just grab your lower lip, and pull it over your head.
          .

      • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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        … trust the Scouts for what?

        What did you depend on the Scouts for before, except perhaps a hand crossing the street?

        And the same Keebler yum-yum cookies?
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    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      @Grace Kim Kwon, you ignorant slut.
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  • BarkingDawg

    The Girl Scouts need all the help they can get to survive.

  • FoJC_Forever

    Yet another intrusion by the Devil to pervert the understanding of gender in children’s minds. Gender is a physical matter and those born with the physical characteristics of a male are male, regardless of how they feel. However, the decision of the GS leadership is not surprising, since the country continues is downward spiral into Darkness.

    Christians need to be open to helping these young people as they grow older, as the Holy Spirit creates opportunities to do so. They will still be confused and conflicted as they grow, and probably placed on drugs to make them feel more feminine. Their minds will be twisted, but God can work miracles in them.

    Satan always goes after the young. He went after the young (newly created) in the Beginning, and his strategy hasn’t changed much. It is a horrible shame that these children don’t have loving and moral parents teaching them and training them to be who God created them to be. But, it is amazingly wonderful that we have the gift of the Holy Spirit to impart Power to these children to enable them to overcome the perversions which are invading their souls.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      Wrong again, @FoJC_Forever:disqus.

      Think: WWJD?

      Actually, today, Jesus might look it up on the web, read even the Wikipedia articles, follow the references, and learn something.

      These are God’s children AS GOD CREATED THEM.

      And what do you do?

      In your ignorance and fear, you behave stupidly and separate yourself from GOD’S CHILDREN

      Shame on you.

      If there is a Satan, I cannot imagine behavior more Satan-like than turning away from GOD’S CHILDREN.

      #LeelahAlcorn

      .

      • FoJC_Forever

        Jesus already knows the Beginning to the End. He wouldn’t look up anything online to understand the human sinful nature and all the sins which emanate from it.

        God did not create anyone to be homosexual or transgender. Male is male and female is female, despite how people “feel”.

        The shame of this sin is upon the adults who are encouraging and nurturing this perverted behavior in children.

        “If there is a Satan”? You talk about God and then question if Satan exists? You are groping in Darkness.

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

          .
          Welcome to the US where our agreed-upon social credo is that all are equal, endowed by THEIR creator with unalienable rights to their own life, their own liberty, and their own pursuit of happiness, with equal protection and due process under law.

          If you believe that YOUR creator did not create gays and trans, it is of no matter.

          THEIR creator created them, and while you are here on this planet, show some respect, @FoJC_Forever:disqus.
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          • FoJC_Forever

            No one is created as a homosexual or transgender. It is learned behavior and nurtured feeling. The only sexual behavior that God created and Wills is heterosexuality in a Marriage between one man and one woman.

          • Deina

            So why would He create homosexuality in the rest of the animal kingdom, but not in man? It’s been scientifically verified in nearly every mammalian species studied, and in a large number of avian species. Man is the only species where some individuals seem to have a problem with it.

            Yet the same God made them all!

            Why does Luke 11:34 say “I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.”?

            In those days it was not the custom for adults to share a bed – not even married couples. The husband would go to the wife’s bed if they needed to “have a discussion”, but then return to his own after. Why is it written thus?

            As for the following verse, about “two women shall be grinding together…” — the mind boggles! (ಠ‿ಠ)

          • FoJC_Forever

            God didn’t create homosexual behavior. Animals do not engage in homosexual behavior.

            In those days, it was not against any custom for adults to sleep in the same bed. Sleeping is not the same as sexual activity, among those who are not bound to your kind of sexual perversion. Someone claiming to know how everyone was accustomed to behaving has fed you lies, and, of course, you believed them.

            ‘Two women grinding together’ is referring to operating a mill, but I think you already knew that. Trying to use the shock treatment on me is a complete waste of your time. But, then again, each day of your life is a waste as your grope in Darkness and live in your Sin.

          • Deina

            I guess that’s one way to do it – when faced with inconvenient facts just deny their existence!

            Same thing happened some years back – some anti-Semitic group offered $50k for “proof” that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz, and other concentration camps. Whenever someone presented evidence to try to claim it “sorry, that doesn’t prove anything, it’s all fake.”

            Then one day a gentleman by the name of Mermelstein sued them in the Superior Court of Los Angeles. That must have put the fear of God into them, because the racists settled out of court post haste, paying him the $50k plus between $40-100k punitive damages plus ‘The Institute, as part of the settlement, also agreed to apologize in writing to Mermelstein and other Auschwitz survivors for saying the Holocaust was a myth. The statement has been signed and is part of the court records. The Institute also must declare publicly “the fact that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz is indisputable.”‘

            Just like with the Holocaust, there is copious evidence attesting to homosexuality & bisexuality in the animal kingdom. If someone’s telling you otherwise, you need to let them know that they’ll be smoking a few turds in Purgatory over lies like that.

            You can look the studies up yourself, or, if that’s too difficult for you, let me know & I’ll provide a few links for you provided you promise to read them!

          • FoJC_Forever

            Your contextual comparison with the heinous crimes committed against the Jews by Hitler and his military government are ridiculous. You do a huge disservice to them.

            I’m not denying evidence. Animals cannot commit homosexuality because they have no soul or spirit, they are simply animals.

            Homosexuality is a sin born in the carnal (fallen) nature of mankind, not something created by God.

            Purgatory does not exist.

          • Deina

            Now you’re going to arbitrarily change definitions to make them match what you want to believe.

            What a hypocrite!

            Your name wouldn’t be “Matt Makela” by any chance, would it? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, skeeve.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Oh, this is the start of your Matt reference in the other comment. No, my name isn’t Matt Makela.

            I am FoJC_Forever. A Follower of Jesus Christ, Forever.

          • Deina

            So when lions & tigers & bears – oh my! – have sex with another of their species, which is the same gender they are, it’s “God’s Will”, but when humans do it God gets offended?

            Maybe the “god” you believe in is that type of hypocritical flake, but my God certainly isn’t!

            Or maybe by reading into the Scriptures that which you want to believe, you are attributing this hypocrisy to Him, when it doesn’t actually exist!

            Oh, but that can’t be it, can it? I mean, since you claim to know His Will so well, then any inconsistencies must be on God’s part, instead of yours, eh?

            So what do you think, Matt?

            As for Purgatory – since you can’t smoke them there, you should probably start here!

          • FoJC_Forever

            God doesn’t “get offended”. He is God and is the definition of Truth and what is Good. Homosexual behavior isn’t something animals do, it’s something carnal humans do in violation of God’s Will and Word. The Offense is on the part of the person who chooses to follow sin, participating in homosexual behaviors and entertaining homosexual feelings.

            You cannot be of God and accept homosexuality as being good. You are groping in Darkness. You’re simply an angry, tyrannical person who is following Satan’s leading into Sin, just as Adam and Eve did in the Beginning. I suspect you have others following your leading into Sin as well.

            Who is Matt? Are you assuming you know who I am? Your corrupt and suspicious mind is feeding you false information.

            Purgatory doesn’t exist.

          • Deina

            You’re an arrogant little smeghead, aren’t you! From what I’ve read, God holds a pretty dim view of arrogance. Except you are going to take it upon yourself to call it something else, something that isn’t mentioned, just so you can justify yourself, aren’t you.

            If you can’t debate honestly, using fact & logic, you unilaterally change the definitions of the terms. And you claim to be a “follower of Christ.” You’re nothing more than another lying fraud. I hope you’ve got asbestos water wings for when you get tossed into that lake of fire!

            Show us in the bible where Jesus used lies, deceit & fraud to make His arguments! Why would you think it alright for you to use those tactics “defending” Him?

            Since you want to pretend that the term “homosexuality” (and its variants) only pertains to humans, let’s just make up a term that means mono-gendered sexual relations of any species? How about “samesies”?

            Samesies has been verified in nearly every mammalian species known, and a great many others. Of this there is no dispute.

            You claim that God is only offended (considers it sin) in humans. Why is He not offended when other species commit samesies? Supposedly the other species don’t have ‘free will”, so He could just snap His fingers, wiggle His nose, or whatever He does, and remove the concept of samesies from them, such that the thought/instinct would never even occur to them. Why did He not do this for the “lower animals”?

            I eagerly await your next attempt at deflection.

          • FoJC_Forever

            After participating in dialogue with you, I’m becoming convinced you are a “lower animal”.

            You need to forsake your Sin, take up the cross Jesus has for you, and follow Him.

          • Deina

            So you can’t debate honestly. Why, oh why, am I not surprised?

            Matthew 7:1-2
            {1}Judge not, that ye be not judged.
            {2}For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged, and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you again.

            With that in mind I bid you peace.

            One day you will notice a cloud in the sky shaped like an owl. I wish for you double that which you wish for others at that time.

          • edward martis

            shove it up you diseased ass

          • Brenda Cressey

            “Welcome to the US where our agreed-upon social credo is that all are equal, endowed by THEIR creator with unalienable rights to their own life, their own liberty, and their own pursuit of happiness, with equal protection and due process under law.”

            Next time you run your mouth about abortion remember those unalienable rights are for ALL HUMANS INCLUDING THE UNBORN as well.

  • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

    I will no longer trust the Girl/Boy Scouts. And I will no longer.bye their Cookies anymore.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      So DON’T wave at their cookies.

      Huh?
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      • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

        Why are over 90% of your up votes from you and not others?

        • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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          You’re off topic.
          __________

          BUT, if you read my Disqus history, you’ll see that I have explained dozens of times to easily distracted people like you that I use the ^ v markers as bookmarks so I know how far I’ve read through a thread when I return.

          If you care, Disqus has no monetary value, and does not count self-up-votes in it’s user totals, not that it matters to even a flea.

          For me, it’s like using a screw-driver to open a can of paint — it’s not in the owner’s manual for a screw-driver, but we figure out how to use things to serve us in spite of the original designer’s expectations or some contrarian “rules”, written or unwritten.

          You apparently feel the need to not only notice and comment, but also to toss out a statistic: 90% of my up-votes are from myself.

          Seriously?

          I’m glad I kept you busy counting instead of you doing any damage to anyone in your social universe, at least for a little while.

          Would you please count and report on my use of vowels, statistically — take your time.

          I’m only half joking.

          How about turning the tables and make a statement, @disqus_kEDmrTA1vT:disqus, instead of asking me a purposefully loaded facetious “why” question?

          Take the responsibility to make a statement of your own, explain why you noticed, why it’s important to you, and why you measure things and toss around measurement statistics as if they in and of themselves mean something.

          And bear in mind, this TOPIC thread is on a CHRISTIAN web site, and is about the ACCEPTANCE OF TRANS GENDER CHILDREN.

          Aside from your woefully un-Christian denigration of anyone in your path who shows acceptance of trans gender children, and your equally un-Christian disregard of trans gender children themselves, what DO you have to offer ON TOPIC?
          .

          • LadyFreeBird<God'sNotDead

            You don’t seem to get many up votes most are yours . Just though it as strange to up vote ones self. I do not do it myself. I did look at some of your history I was being nosy .Mostly out of curiosity about your own votes . This is a Christian wen site . A lot of Atheist and Liberal Christians come on as well as Bible believing Christians. Some support Gay life styles and some do not. Some are concerned about boys with the girl during sleep overs. Some straight boys may pretend to be Transgender so they can be around the girls. It is hard for you who are Gay to understand how we feel. Shalom <

  • Brenda Cressey

    Disgusting. What are they mad because the boy scouts don’t want gays? Why not just make a “Gay Scouts” troop where the boys can be girls and the girls can be boys. I already hated the girl scouts with their overwhelming support of planned parenthood and abortion but this is just going too far. I’m so thankful I have a good church with an excellent youth program for my kids to go to. No gender “confused” baby killers there. Only the Gospel of Christ.

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      Jesus said to love the children.

      #LeelahAlcorn

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  • UmustBKiddinMe

    “You can just be questioning your gender or a boy who would like to be a girl.”

    No, that is not the case. As the article clearly states: “If a girl is recognized by her family, school and community as a girl and lives culturally as a girl”. That is quite different than someone who is simply “questioning your gender or a boy would like to be a girl”.

  • tovlogos

    It a good thing I said my prayers this morning before I saw the Prophecy News Watch headlines.
    We are seeing prophecy being fulfilled. Although we know what to expect, it is still mind boggling to witness the world slide into the abyss. There is no tolerance for God. Mankind has usurped the Lord’s authority ( which He is temporary allowing); and they blissfully pave the path for the anti-Christ.
    When males say they have women’s souls in male bodies, they don’t realize that gender is clearly a condition of the flesh, as laid out in Genesis. To change “try” to change that, one must raise the fist at God in defiance. It is not God changing His mind (Hebrews 13:8) about sexuality as He designed it — it is someone else telling mankind these things. Can you guess who is whispering in your ear? It is odd that we are told in Daniel 11:37, where the anti-Christ is being profiled:
    “And he will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women…” To whom will he most likely appeal?

    • http://www.peterblaise.com/ peterblaise

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      Woops, @tovlogos, you forgot about compassion for Jesus’s little children.

      @LeelahAlcorn

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      • tovlogos

        I don’t think so. Who are Jesus’ little children?
        “But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.” (John 10:26-27)
        Many of His sheep are being murdered as we speak; I also have compassion for them. I don’t want them to lie to me; and I don’t lie to them — the truth shall make you free. Freeing a soul is the ultimate compassion.

  • LeftCoast

    Hey church members, it’s time to throw all your resources at kids and youth programs. We need to create the best option.