NEW YORK — A video released Tuesday by the Center for Medical Progress shows a top Planned Parenthood director explaining in graphic detail how the abortion giant harvests and sells baby body parts and organs nationwide—a practice that is a felony under federal law.
The Center for Medical Progress released the video as the next in its “Human Capital” investigative series, as it researches the organization’s illegal sales of fetal body parts in America.
“Planned Parenthood’s criminal conspiracy to make money off of aborted baby parts reaches to the very highest levels of their organization,” director David Daleiden remarked in a statement. “Elected officials must listen to the public outcry for Planned Parenthood to be held accountable to the law and for our tax dollars to stop underwriting this barbaric abortion business.”
The video features abortionist Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s senior director of medical services, who oversees the practices of all the 700-plus Planned Parenthood locations nationwide. Nucatola thinks she’s having a business dinner with representatives of a fetal tissue procurement company, but what she doesn’t know is that the man and woman that she is speaking with are undercover investigators and are recording her conversation.
SAVING ‘SPECIMENS’ FOR BUYERS
During the discussion, as she munches nonchalantly on salad, Nucatola explains in detail how the organs and extremities of the aborted babies are decidedly removed intact so that they can be sold to buyers. She outlines that the organizations is paid between $30 to $100 per “specimen.”
“How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?” the male investigator asks Nucatola, wanting to find out if Planned Parenthood can set aside certain organs for sale.
“It makes a huge difference,” she replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”
“It’s very rare to have a patient that doesn’t have enough dilation to evacuate the other parts intact,” Nucatola explains.
“To bring the body cavity out intact and all that?” the man asks.
“Exactly,” she replies. “So then you’re just kind of cognizant where you put your graspers. You try to intentionally go above and below the thorax, so that—-you know. We’ve been very good at getting the heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so ‘I’m not gonna crush that part. I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.’”
Nucatola explains that in some cases, the baby is turned around breech so that the abortionist can remove the baby’s head in one piece.
“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she outlines. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”
“So they can convert to breech, for example, at the start of the [abortion]?” the undercover man asks.
“Exactly,” she replies. “Under ultrasound guidance, they can just change the presentation.”
Nucatola continues by divulging the organs that are most in demand.
“[A] lot of people want intact hearts these days because they’re looking for specific nodes: AV nodes, SA. I was like, ‘Wow, I didn’t even know. Good for them,'” she replies. “Yesterday was the first time she (a staff member) said people wanted lungs. And then, like I said, always as many intact livers as possible.”
“Some people want lower extremities, too, which, that’s simple,” Nucatola continues. “I don’t know what they’re doing with it. I guess they want muscle.”
LISTS AND ‘MENUS’
She mentions a “list” that she refers to in supplying the body parts that are in demand.
“For example, I had eight cases yesterday. And I knew exactly what we needed, and I kinda looked at this list and said, ‘Alright, this 17-weeker has 8 LAMs and this one—so I knew which were the cases that were probably more likely to yield what we needed, and I made my decisions according to that, too. So, it’s worth having a huddle at the beginning of the day, and that’s what I do.”
When asked if the fetal tissue procurement company could just contract with the national office instead of the local facilities, Nucatola outlines that businesses contract directly with the regional offices in the event that the sale of fetal parts is exposed and trouble ensues. However, she also notes that the national office did seek to do so, but was advised by legal counsel not to get involved at that level.
“We tried to do this,” Nucatola explains. “And at the national office we have a litigation and law department [that] really doesn’t want us to be the middle people for this issue right now.”
“[W]e had a conversation and said, ‘You know, what do you think? We’ll just go out and find all the people who are doing this (buying baby body parts) and present everybody with a menu,” she continued. “And at the end of the day, they decided that it’s too touchy an issue for us to be an official middleman.”
When asked if it might be a possibility in the future, Nucatola opines that it would be a losing battle if it went before the U.S. Supreme Court.
“But I will tell you that behind closed doors these conversations are happening with the affiliates,” she adds.
CONGRESS CALLED TO INVESTIGATE CRIMINAL ACTIVITY
The Center for Medical Progress notes that it is a federal crime–a felony punishable up to 10 years in prison—to buy or sell fetal body parts in America. It also stated that turning the baby breech—as Nucatola explained—to remove the child’s head intact is the same as a partial-birth abortion and is likewise a federal felony.
Nucatola remarked in passing during her dinner that the law “is up to interpretation.”
Some are now calling for Planned Parenthood to be investigated by Congress following the bombshell video release.