Maine’s Top Prosecutor Sues Pastor for Pro-Life Preaching, Pleading Outside of Planned Parenthood

Ingalls-compressedPORTLAND, Maine — In an unprecedented move against the free speech of Christians, Maine’s state attorney general has filed a civil rights lawsuit against a pastor over his pro-life preaching outside of a Planned Parenthood facility in Portland.

Attorney General Janet Mills, a pro-abortion Democrat, is seeking to keep Lebanon pastor Brian Ingalls, 26, from standing within 50 feet of the Planned Parenthood facility—or any Planned Parenthood location in Maine.

Planned Parenthood has faced numerous protests nationwide from pro-life Americans as the organization is currently under Congressional investigation for its harvesting and sale of the body parts of aborted babies. The Portland location is the only Planned Parenthood in Maine that performs abortions, although the state has four abortion facilities that murder 2,000 children a year on average.

Ingalls is among a number of Christians who regularly seek to help women outside of the Portland Planned Parenthood, including women who formerly had abortions and are now seeking to turn mothers’ hearts from death to life.

Mills alleges in her lawsuit that Ingalls spoke too loudly on Oct. 23 about “murdering babies, aborted babies’ blood and Jesus” while preaching outside of Planned Parenthood to the point that his pro-life pleas could be heard in the room where examinations take place.

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She asserts that Ingalls didn’t lower his voice enough that particular day after being approached by police and contends that his passionate preaching “demonstrates his intent to interfere with the safe and effective delivery of health services at Planned Parenthood.”

“All patients have the right to receive medical services free of ‘the cacophony of political protests,’ in the words of the United States Supreme Court,” she wrote in a statement. “While protesters have every right to say anything they want in a public area in the vicinity of a medical facility, they are not permitted to disrupt another citizen’s health care services.”

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The lawsuit is the first time in the state’s history that the Maine Civil Rights Act has been used against pro-life Christians and in defense of abortionists. Ingalls faces a $5,000 fine for each violation if Mills is successful in her legal challenge.

“For reasons that can only be described as politically motivated, the attorney general has transformed an unverified noise complaint by Planned Parenthood into a civil rights complaint against a young Christian pro-life advocate,” writes the Thomas More Law Center, which is defending Ingalls in court.

“Sadly, through her baseless lawsuit, the attorney general threatens to fine a young hard-working father and Christian up to $5,000 for peacefully preaching the Bible on the public sidewalk,” it said.

The city of Portland recently lost a lawsuit that challenged their imposed 39-foot buffer zone, which essentially pushed pro-lifers to stand across the street from the facility, where they could not provide help to abortion-minded women. The city agreed to pay $56,500 in legal fees over the matter.

Mills’ request to keep Ingalls 50 feet away from the facility would force him to stand at an even greater distance from the facility than the previous ordinance had required—which had to be repealed following a ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court that found even a 35-foot buffer zone in Massachusetts to be unconstitutional.


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  • thelordlives2011

    Janet Mills needs to learn the Law. Wonder how she would feel if the took her and chopped her into hundreds of little parts like she advocates for killing babies. Would be a different issue then. The need to remove her from Attorney General as she is unfit.

  • Ruth Davis

    It needs to be more pastors standing on the front line, fighting like JESUS did.

    • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

      We do need more Pastors willing to take a stand and to fight foe the Unborn Humans who are being killed daily. But too many are afraid they offend and will lose they people in their Churches.

      • Rebecca

        We are to serve God, not man. Those Pastors should be ashamed if they choose man over God.

        • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

          I agree with you.One day they will face God.

      • Sean

        And there is the problem. People thinking that it is the pastors job to do these things. No where in the Bible does it give a free pass to people to be idle in spreading the message of Hope. Pastors have many responsibilities in the Church that require them to be focused on. If the people in the Church would take the Gospel seriously it would be a much different country.

        • Ruth Davis

          The sherpard is always guiding the sheep, he goes before them . To many pastors have become comfortable. JESUS was out among the people everyday, even the apostles.

          • Sean

            Ruth, you cannot have it both ways. Either the Pastor is leading the Church and being prepared to teach his sermons throughout the week or he is neglecting the congregation and out protesting. It is your responsibility to be a witness to the lost and voicing concern about these places. That is an issue today, people thing it is the pastors job to do everything while they just go about their lives.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            It would be so great if Pastors would more like Jesus.

        • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

          WOW! Thank you for your KINDNESS. Have a great life.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Amen, Ruth, and when they cannot be on the front lines, they need to be preaching against abortion in their churches. Too much cowardice from too many pastors – in both departments. God bless you for your faithful witness.

    • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

      Even though I was told by Sean it is not the job of Pastors to do what this Pastor did and made to feel that I was wrong for agreeing with you. I still agree with you.

  • Rebecca

    Abortions are always wrong!!

    • The Skeptical Chymist

      You sound like a woman who has never needed an abortion to save your life.

      A friend of mine tried for years to get pregnant, and finally became pregnant with twins. One fetus had a serious birth defect that was absolutely not reparable, and would have caused her to lose both twins. However, by aborting that fetus, she was able to save the other. What would you have done? Was that abortion one of the one’s that is “always wrong”?

      Abortion decisions are often a LOT more complicated than the anti-abortion folks would have you believe. And adding harassment to the horrific personal pain that these women are going through is unconscionable.

      • Rebecca

        Those situations happen, but not in great percentages. Real women would risk their own life for the unborn. My sister in law went through something similar with her triplets. She refused and the baby that didn’t make it was born and they were able to keep the other 2 in for a few more weeks. The other 2 were born prematurely a month before their due date.
        The majority of abortions are not as “complicated” as the prochoice like to make it out to be. Convenience is the main thing abortions are done for most women.
        “And adding harassment to the horrific personal pain that these women are going through is unconscionable.” No, what is unconscionable is the horrific pain and death the baby goes through. That is evil and murder. If ya don’t want to hear the “harassing” words, wear earplugs.

  • thatdigiguy

    Wow… with friends like this carrying his water, 0 doesn’t need laws….

  • Tara

    yeah, sue him, he’s a terrible person for wanting to save the lives of innocent babies. Smh…..

    • gizmo23

      Where is it someones right to disrupt someone’s counseling and or private life? Would you be OK with people disrupting a church service?

      • Rebecca

        Since it involves a helpless baby who may be shredded in an Abortion, yes it is our business. What business of yours is it if we try to encourage them not to abort?

        • gizmo23

          Encourage yes, harass no

          • Rebecca

            What is your definition of harass? Some see even mentioning the subject as harassment.

          • gizmo23

            Harass is screaming in people’s ears or disrupting their conversations, not allowing them to speak without shouting

          • Rebecca

            I’ve never done that. It works both ways though. They can yell some pretty nasty stuff.

          • gizmo23

            I’ve seen pro life and pro choice get pretty nasty. Here a prolife group was outside of an elementary school showing kids pictures of aborted babies to little kids. You think parents were OK with that and it helped their cause?

          • Rebecca

            If a person can’t face pics that show the results of an abortion then stop supporting abortions. Those pics are some of the realities of abortion. There are all kinds of wrong things kids are exposed to these days, but because some of those things are “popular” in some circles they’re seen as fine. Abortion isn’t pretty.

          • gizmo23

            You see in terms of your own selfish thoughts. What if a parent doesn’t want their children to see these things? What if someone wants to show porn because they think kids should see reality?
            This issue isn’t about abortion but about someones right to do things within the law without being harassed. If you don’t like abortion fine,I know of no one that does, but you don’t have a right to violate someone else.

          • Rebecca

            Selfish??? LOL That’s rich. Abortion is one of the top things that are selfish!!!
            “you don’t have a right to violate someone else” LOL Yet violating a baby’s right to life is fine with you. SMH

          • gizmo23

            Sorry if it legal, change the law.

          • Rebecca

            Just because something is legal, doesn’t automatically make it right.

          • JGC

            Rebecca, what is your evidence demonstrating that terminating a pregnancy during an early stage of gestation violates the rights of an actual human being?

          • Cady555

            By that theory, I can show your children gory pictures of scenes from the bible. Maybe Lot handing his daughters over to be gang raped. Maybe small children, and grandparents kittens screaming in terror and drowning as Noah floats away.

            But I wouldn’t do that. Using children, mine or any one else’s, as tools to prove a point is wrong. I know this. All decent people, Christian or not, know this.

          • Rebecca

            “But I wouldn’t do that.” “All decent people” Wow, you are messed up in what YOU wouldn’t do and what YOU think decent people would do. Decent people don’t kill people, in the womb or out!!!!!
            Children are being exposed to all kinds of things. Schools are teaching them things that are not for them to teach. Parents hand their kids off to the school system and have a false sense of security in doing that.

        • JGC

          Rebecca, you seem to be confusing a zygote, embryo or fetus with an actual human being-a baby. Why?

      • jael2

        Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. If your neighbor, who happens to be a preborn child in womb is about to slaughtered, you have a duty to love that child and attempt to rescue him. You have a duty to warn a mother not to murder her child. If not, you share in the guilt.

        • gizmo23

          So would it be OK to go inside and berate the woman?

          • Angel Jabbins

            He did not go inside. He was on the street and within the law. How is it ‘berating’ women to plead with them not to murder their babies? Sounds like a kindness to me! If they feel they are being ‘berated’ that just means their consciences are at work and they don’t want to listen…stopping their ears to what they know is the truth.

          • gizmo23

            What if I feel divorced people remarrying is a sin. Do I have the right to disrupt their marriage ?
            Just how does yelling, calling people names, and stressing someone out help them to see your side

          • Rebecca

            You’re bothered by “yelling, name calling and stressing someone out” rather than being bothered by babies being shredded or their body parts being sold as a better option of the two. Amazing.

          • gizmo23

            What would be your limit on stopping an abortion?

          • Cosmic Mastermind

            My guess; none. Some Christians would strap a woman to a table for 9 months and force her to give birth to a tiny deformed corpse rather than allow an early-term abortion.

          • Rebecca

            deformed corpse???

          • Rebecca

            Limit??? Compared to what pro-choice women’s “limit” is on preventing the birth of a child, whatever is done, short of violence, is tame in comparison. “yelling, name calling and stressing someone out” is tame in comparison to murdering a baby. You must be really sensitive if you think words are worse. Why are you supportive of abortions?

          • gizmo23

            So if it is murder you should have no problem using violence to stop it. If not you are being very selective as to who you would protect

          • Rebecca

            Why use violence if words don’t even help?

          • gizmo23

            If I saw someone trying to murder a five year old I would use violence to stop them. If abortion is the same as murder why don’t you use violence to stop it ?

          • Rebecca

            Ultimately I don’t have to do anything. God will deal with those who murder babies and support the murder of babies. He will do very well in dealing with those who partake 🙂
            As for you wanting me to say I would use violence, well it just shows that you think that is the answer to difficult issues. Get pregnant with an unwanted baby, murder the kid instead of adoption. I don’t like abortions, you think I should be violent, not gonna happen. Twisted thinking on your part.

          • gizmo23

            I just want to see if you live your convictions and rhetoric. I assume you wouldn’t stand by and watch a born child be murdered so what is the difference if you don’t try to stop an unborned be murdered. You claim it is no different don’t you?

          • Rebecca

            What’s up with you? Why are you asking me about violence and would I watch a child be murdered? Not sure what you’re trying to drag out of me.

          • gizmo23

            I dispise the hateful rhetoric and calling people murderers. You will never change peoples mind by insulting them. Women seeking abortions have real problems that the political pro life movemnet seems to completely ignore

          • JGC

            Rebecca, should women who have abortions be tried for first degree murder and if convicted receive a capital sentence?

          • Sean

            Rebecca, that is the feeling of the unsaved. They only care about the here and now.

          • Rebecca

            ikr. They can’t see past their own selfish, brainwashed noses.

          • Sean

            They cant because they are dead to the truth and enslaved to their sins. Romans 1 speaks about these days.

          • JGC

            Rebecca, I’ll be worried about ‘babies being shredded” when you can demonstrate that’s actually what is happening–that at a stage of development where current law allows a pregnancy to be terminated a zygote, embryo or fetus represents an actual human being.

          • afchief

            You are comparing apples and oranges for the sake of argument. Try again

          • gizmo23

            So an unborn child is not the same as a born one

          • afchief

            It sure is!!! Jeremiah 1:5 (NASB) “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you;

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Divorce/Remarrying and Murder are not the same thing.

          • gizmo23

            I have no problem with helping women keep their unborn children. My gripe is with the pro life movement that has done NOTHING to help women and lessen the number of abortions

          • Rebecca

            Um, what about Crisis Pregnancy Centers that help those who come through their doors?

          • gizmo23

            What do they do?

          • Rebecca

            Well as I’m told…Google it. If that doesn’t educate you, go visit one and ask.

          • gizmo23

            So you don’t know?

          • Rebecca

            I didn’t say that. Google it and visit one.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Gizmo, crisis pregnancy centers (CPC’s) provide free services to abortion-minded women and post-abortive women. For abortion minded women, they provide free ultrasounds and pregnancy tests, etc, and they give baby showers to women who choose life – to set them up for their nursery. They often also connect them with OB’s who will give discounted prenatal services to them and with churches or individuals who will help sponsor them and their babies. CPC’s are usually 100% supported by donations from churches and pro-lifers.

            They also provide free post-abortive counseling for women who have had abortions and are suffering psychological trauma from realizing that they once signed off on the death of their very own child. (Many women do not realize that until decades later. They often come up to us on the sidewalk to thank us for trying to prevent women from undergoing the same trauma that they have experienced and regret so deeply on a daily basis.)

            We sidewalk counselors work closely with CPC’s, because we need to know what we can and cannot promise to a woman who is walking into an abortion clinic. Our sidewalk counselors also have a separate fund that provides co-pays for prenatal and delivery costs for women who choose life. Sometimes, faithful Christians will just walk up to us on the street and give us money, knowing that we will use it for the women in crisis pregnancies. We praise God for these people. They cannot be on the front lines, but they support those of us who can – what army could survive without logistics and supply?!?

            When CPC’s were first started by pro-lifers, they were heavily outnumbered by abortion clinics – yet now, by the Grace of God, it is the reverse. If you are interested in supporting or volunteering at a crisis pregnancy center, here is a link (just take the spaces out) that will help you locate one in the city near you:

            http://www .lifecall .org/index .html

            BTW, I agree with you 100% that we should not be overtly loud or abusive in any way in our approach, and, while this man’s style is a bit different from mine, I did not notice him being abusive or too loud. In fact, he came across as quite loving to me. The fact that he can be heard inside the clinic is a non-issue: they can hear the cars in there too, and they can hear the “deathscorts” cussing at us from inside the clinic quite well. It has been my experience that the pro-aborts are almost always MUCH louder than the pro-lifers outside of abortion clinics. Their language is also much more “colorful.” 🙂

          • gizmo23

            I have no disagreement with you.
            I have read other news accounts where he was very abosive and loud outside the clinics. I guess that depends on your perspective

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            You do not truly understand Pro-Lifers than.

          • gizmo23

            If they are different I don’t see it

          • Rebecca

            There’s a lot pro choicers don’t see. They can’t, satan has them blinded.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Some of us truly care. What you hate is that we care about the Unborn Humans. I was very close to being Aborted.A Doctor would have killed me. The only thing that kept her from doing that. Is that my Dad would have left her. At that time Abortion were Illegal.I know I was an unwanted Child.She let me know I was unwanted. But that was okay because my Dad wanted me.I an Human now and I was Human than.

          • gizmo23

            Hos dare you say I hate unborn children. That is a vile thing to say. You don’t even know me

          • Rebecca

            Are you supportive if a woman wants an abortion?

          • gizmo23

            No

          • Rebecca

            So you are pro life, as in you are against abortions?

          • gizmo23

            Yes

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Now I meant you hate Pro-life people because we we care about the Unborn. Go back and re read what I said. I never said you hate babies. You hate that ((((((((((WE))))))))))) care….. Nothing about you hating Babies. It is us Pro-life Men/women that you hate.

          • Rebecca

            Who they ultimately hate is God. He is the giver of life and life starts at conception, whether they believe that or not. God is the One they hate and the One they will face and have to answer to.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            I believe that is true. I think they also hate us because we agree with God. And yes it is God they will one day face.It will be a sad day .

          • gizmo23

            I do not hate that you care. You as well as all others should. I may be in error but to claim you know how I think is rude and disrespectful

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            P.S. how dare you accuse me of saying something I did ((((((NOT))))))) say.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            I am sorry one more thing I said Unborn Humans. Please re read what I wrote. I am not as vile as you thought.

          • JGC

            LadyFreeBird, I’m familiar with the terms zygote, embryo, or fetus, but could you provide a detailed definition of an ‘unborn human’ for me?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            (God Created Life). Ask Him. Zygote,embryo and fetus are the stages of “Human” development. People like you like to De-Humanize the Unborn. You can not take away their Humanity. You can not take away truth just because you an” Anti-God/Anti-Christian.”

            You will find out the truth on the other side of Life.
            Shalom <

          • JGC

            LFB, your evidence that god 1) exists, and 2) created life, would be what, exactly? Be specific.

            As to zygotes, embryos and fetuses being stages of gestational development yes, they are but hardly unique to humans (all other mammals, for example, proceed through the same phases of development as well).

            And until such time as you can actually demonstrate that at all stages of development following fertilization a zygote, embryo or fetus actually does represent an actual human being I’ve really no need to even attempt to dehumanize anything, have I?

            “As long as a Human Woman Conceived through a Human Man it is a “HUMAN”.”
            A human zygote or a human embryo or a human fetus, certainly, but you’re claiming it’s much more than that–that it’s also a human being, the exact moral and ethical equivalent of a day old, week, old, year old, twenty-year-old, etc., male or female homo sapiens. What evidence demonstrates this is the case?
            Let’s start at the beginning–following fertilization but before the fertilized ovum undergoes the first round of cell division. At this point we’d be talking about something that’s unicellular, insensate beyond the most basic chemical/receptor interactions all cells exhibit, non-sentient (lacking any and all neural structures), possessed of no differentiated tissues, no organ systems, etc. By what rational argument must we treat it as though it were a human being, rather than a cell of human origin?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Like I said God created Humans. You can say what you want. You can believe what you want. There is nothing I can say to you. All I can do is Pray for you.
            In Jesus and in His Name Shalom <

          • JGC

            If you have no actual evidence to offer in support of your claim I’ll agree you have little to say to me.

            I’m not prepared to simply accept that what you’ve said without evidence that you’re correct, and I can’t ethically embrace the position that the state has reasonable justification to limit the rights of women to control their own reproductive health and to decide themselves if and when they will carry a pregnancy to term on the basis of an unsupported assertion.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            All I will do is Pray for you.

          • JGC

            “If you can not see the Humanity of the unborn you are
            BLIND. The evidence is there for you to see.”
            What evidence is it you believe I’m blind to? What properties
            does an embryo, for example, exhibit that requires we treat it as the exact moral equivalent of a day old, month old baby, year old, 20 year old male or female? It’s not that I’m blind to evidence, is that you’ve offered no evidence demonstrating such an equivalence.

            “You are a very heartless Human.”
            To my mind, denying the women the freedom to exercise her
            right to control her own reproductive health is a heartless act.

            “All I can do is Pray for you. I am adding you to my list of
            people I Pray for. These people I fast for once a week for.”
            Please don’t skip meals over me—as I’ve said, I myself, my
            family and loved ones, the members of my congregation, etc., have all my prayer requirements well taken care of. ( Besides, what do you believe your additional prayer would accomplish? Surely god is not going to violate free will by acting to cause me to embrace the same position on abortion you hold.)

            “ As far as to prove that God exist He left evidence for you
            to see.”
            What evidence do you believe god left that I’ve
            missed?

            “I will also Pray that God will stop you from doing what do
            to the Christians on this site.”
            What is it you think I’m doing to anyone on this site, other
            than engaging them in conversation just like every other participant in this forum?

            “You hate Christians so much that you come to a Christian site and put them down.”
            Where have I put anyone down? What have I said that isn’t true?

            “What you are doing to the Christians and your hate will one day return to you.”
            I don’t hate Christians, however, and I don’t see how simply discussing
            the morality of terminating an unwanted and unplanned pregnancy could be interpreted as a hateful act.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            I will continue to Pray for you and the others that I Pray for. My list of People I Pray for is getting a little long. But I think God can handle it.
            People like you want Evidence not even realizing that Evidence can be found in you. The Bible talked about you and your clan 2000 years ago. Your like of Human kindness/Lack of Love was also talked about in the Bible. The Evidence is out there all you have to do is look. Iwill Pray that God will open your eyes,ears,understanding and your heart. And may God show you His Love for you.
            Shalom<

          • JGC

            “People like you want Evidence not even realizing that
            Evidence can be found in you.”
            What evidence can be found within me, and how can it be
            found?

            “The Bible talked about you and your clan 2000 years ago.”
            Well, yeah—after all, my ‘clan’ composed its traditions.

            “Your like of Human kindness/Lack of Love was also talked
            about in the Bible. “
            I have no idea what in my posts have led you to believe I
            lack either.

            “The Evidence is out there all you have to do is look.”
            What evidence, and where do I look for it?

            “Iwill Pray that God will open your eyes,ears,understanding
            and your heart. And may God show you His Love for you.”
            What makes you think god hasn’t already?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Yawnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

          • JGC

            Got nothing, huh?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            The only thing I have to say is. I will keep Praying for you and also for the ones you hurt through your hate of God and Christians.
            In the Name of my Lord Jesus Shalom <

          • JGC

            I don’t hate god or Christians, however, so it would be impossible for me to hurt anyone through such hatred.
            Who is it that you believe I’m hurting?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            I see how you talk to Christians. I don’t care how you talk to me. No big deal. But the way I have seen you put down other Christians it touches my heart. So my Prayers are for you and also for them. Prayer is really not a bad thing.
            Shalom <

          • JGC

            What is wrong about how I’ve been talking to Christians? As far as I can tell I’ve been appropriately respectful. I am unwilling to accept appeal to subjective personal faith as constituting evidence in support of any claims an individual might make, but that’s the case regardless of what religious tradition that individual might embrace (as I hope you wouldn’t accept my offering assertions founded in my religious articles of faith as evidence supporting any claim I made.)

          • JGC

            I still don’t understand how I’ve spoken to Christians in an
            manner that could be considered unacceptable. Could you perhaps provide an example where you believe I’ve done so?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Because you hate for Christians. You do not see us with feelings. And it does not bother you with what you say to us. Of course you do not understand nor care about how you make us feel. You must dehumanize us as you do with the Unborn. After all we are no more Human than they are. I will Pray for you and fast for you. But I will no longer read nor respond to anything you post to me.
            In the Mane of the Lord Jesus Shalom <

          • JGC

            What in my posts indicates I don’t see Christians with feelings? How have I dehumanized Christians?
            And if by “Unborn” you’re referring to zygotes, embryos or fetuses, you are demonstrably ‘more human’ than these entities are.

          • JGC

            I see Christians with the same feelings I see everyone else of any faith, LadyF. I can’t imagine how anything in my posts could be construed as dehumanizing Christians,
            Surely you don’t believe that simply failing to accept at face value the articles of faith Christians embrace, or speaking with Christians in the same manner I speak to non-Christians in conversation, is of itself indicative of hatred or represents an attempt to dehumanize them?

      • afchief

        His constitutional rights have been violated. He disrupted no one!

        • gizmo23

          It sure sounds like he did and was asked to stop

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        A Church service and the MURDER or Unborn Humans are not the same thing. In Church we are not Killing Unborn Humans. And if someone disrupts a Church service it might not be so bad. They can gather around the person and Pray for Him/Her . Who knows He/Her just might get Delivered and saved 🙂

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          Great point! On the same subject matter, here is a case where a disruption of a church service was a very good thing:

          http://www .operationrescue .org/archives/minister-arrested-for-reading-verse-at-abortionist%E2%80%99s-church/

          Perhaps faithful Christians need to be going into the apostate UMC, UCC, Episcopal, etc churches and preaching the Gospel to those who have rejected it – namely the pastors, elders, etc?

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            I’ll look that up. I love operation rescue They have a lot of videos on Abortions. And how they help in the fight against Abortions. Thank you. And there are a lot of churches that are becoming apostate. They do need some faithful Christians to at least try to reach them.

      • Sean

        So, a guy outside on a sidewalk is disrupting what is going on inside the building. Should they then ban cars and buses on the street since they make more noise?

        • gizmo23

          In some case they do just that. Normal noise isn’t the problem. But making noise to harass people is. This is just about civil behavior

          • Rebecca

            Civil behavior? Oh the logic of pro choicers.

          • Sean

            So, speaking out about the evils that happen in that building is not civil behavior? So, we should just remain quiet while a slaughter of tens of thousands happen every year?

          • Rebecca

            The speaking out bothers them more then the murders being done in the building. Twisted world we live in.

          • Sean

            You hit the nail right on its head with that. They love the evil so much that they are afraid to hear that it is evil. The even sadder part is the ones who claim to be of faith that support the killing. They use their own logic to say that it is not yet a life. So, therefore they they try to hide the lie.

          • gizmo23

            He was loud enought to disturb others conversations

          • Rebecca

            That’s a pity. How dare he. Yet, babies are being murdered near by.

          • gizmo23

            So fo shoot the doctor if it stops a murder

          • Rebecca

            You sure are a violent person. Sad.

          • Sean

            Then maybe they should move. If they are bothered by someone outside on a public sidewalk that may tax dollars pay for, then they should leave.

          • gizmo23

            I could disturb a church service and they should move. Do you believe Fred Phephs church was a good witness? Being rude and obnoxious is not good behavior

          • Sean

            Nope, we would just ignore you. It would not bother any of us. On the plus side if you did that you would be prayed for.

          • gizmo23

            I doubt most churches would do the same

          • Sean

            Been in a few that did just that. So, I am thinking you have not been to Church in a while.

          • Sean

            So, he was loud. The is called street preaching. That still falls under 1st Amendment protections.

          • gizmo23

            Not when it intrudes on a private conversation in a building. Free speech yes disturbing others in their homes are business no

          • Sean

            Then they need to move to another location that is far from a public way.

        • JGC

          Sean, there are laws which limit the amount of noise vehicles are allowed to produce (in Maine, for example, the operation of a snowmobile may not produce a sound pressure greater than 78 decibels measured at a distance of 50 feet) so yes–if the traffic noise was as disrupting as was the preacher you would expect the operators of the vehicles to reduce the volume they were producing or be fined as well.

  • Cosmic Mastermind

    50ft huh? Well humanist and secular protesters demonstrating in Washington DC against right-wing religious abuses of the Constitution were forced to stand at a distance of 2,000ft away from public buildings in designated fenced-off “free speech” zones while supporters of those same abuses were free to demonstrate on-site.

    Fxxk. Some of you Christians in America don’t have a clue how skewed the system is in your favor.

  • Cady555

    The videos about selling body parts were fraudulent. They had been edited to change the content of the PP statements and rearrange their words into something they never said. And the purported “original” videos had also been edited despite clear claims to the contrary.

    The Bible commands “do not bear false witness.” Period. No exceptions. Those repeating these known lies are disobeying God.

    The Bible says God is allpowerful. Yet the people telling these lies are essentially saying that their God is so weak that he needs his followers to disobey him.

    • Rebecca

      Wow. You’re sad if you believe the liberal twist on those videos. Until you can get proof from a third impartial party that can prove that those things were not said, you are the liar. How dare you bring God into it and assume the videos are lies. PP is disgusting and shreds babies apart for the money and convenience it provides the women who choose that way out. They do sell body parts whether you like to hear that or not. The truth is being revealed about that evil organization.
      Watch this… youtube dot com/watch?v=nyy5rDoUfMc

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        Cady555 is an unbeliever in God. *He/She* is in denial of the truth. He/She will one day see just how strong God is. He/She will see that God loves us so much that He is giving Humanity time to repent and come to Him through His Son. Cady555 is in need of Prayers.

        • Rebecca

          Agreed. They need to hear the truth, but satan has them blinded.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            My Prayer for many in that the blinders will be removed so they can see the truth before it is too late.

        • Cady555

          Yep. But the Bible still prohibits lying

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Than “why” do you lie and say God is week? You think it is good for you to come to a Christian site to cause trouble with Christians. One day God will stop you. My biggest Prayer for you is that you will be delivered and to be saved. May be one day you will come to love the one you hate.Who knows.Got to go to work. But I will be Praying for you 🙂 Have a great day.
            In Jesus and in His Name Shalom <
            God Loves you. Jesus Loves you. May the Holy Spirit show you just how much you are Loved.

  • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

    I feel bad for this Pastor. He is only trying to save the lives of the unborn Humans.May God help him and Bless him for what he is doing to fight for the Unborn .

    • Rebecca

      It is a fight for sure. It is interesting to see what the other side will fight for, but we for some reason who fight for the right of life for the unborn baby are seen as wrong. Most of them fight hard for those who can’t fight for themselves…animals, but a baby is disposable to them.

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        It is sad that we respect animals over babies. I love animals but I love unborn Humans more. So many say they are for Human right. But these people refuse to see the Unborn as Humans. So much for Human rights. Sometimes it seems as if we are losing the fight to save the Unborn. But we can not give up. These babies are worth the fight.

  • Cady555

    There is a saying “Put your money where your mouth is.” Also, Jesus is quoted as saying “By their fruit shall ye know them.”

    So what are the results of anti abortion efforts? I see a lot of women being harassed and shamed. I see a lot of Christians parading their righteousness. If that is the only goal, they’ve done it. Lots if clanging cymbals.

    Now if you want to actually reduce abortion, look at at the study in Colorado. Abortions were reduced by 42%. For every $1 spent, the state saved $5.85 in medicare costs. What did Colorado do? They offered long acting contraceptives free of charge to teens and young adults.

    After 6 years, Republicans canceled the program.

    Google it.

    They chose the shaming and control of sexually active women over a dramatic reduction in the number of abortions and good fiscal decisions.

    Accurate and comprehensive sex education reduces abortion. Abstinence only programs increase abortion. Facts are also available by googling.

    Sorry, I will believe this is about precious widdle unborn babies when anti-abortion Christians actually make decisions that reduce abortion.

    • Rebecca

      “long acting contraceptives free of charge” Yeah, keep personal responsibility and being an adult out of the equation.

      I will ask the question again…Why are you supportive of abortions?

      • Cady555

        Wow. That was fast. My point is proved.

        Given a choice between something they claim is a human life and worrying about someone else’s “personal responsibility”, they choose morality police over reducing abortion.

        Every Single Time.

        • Rebecca

          One way to reduce abortions is if you don’t want a baby, keep your pants on.

          • Cady555

            I rest my case.

          • Rebecca

            You have no case.

          • Cady555

            Person A. “Abortion is murder. Abortion is the greatest crime imaginable. Each and every abortion is the murder of a specific real human being. There is nothing, nothing more important than stopping abortion.”

            Person B. “We have researched the factors that change the number of abortions. It is clear that one can 1. Criticize other people’s sexual choices and make policy decisions about contraception and education proven to increase the number of abortions, OR 2. Remain silent on other people’s sexual choices and make policy decisions regarding contraception and education that dramatically reduce the number of abortions. Those are the only options.”

            Person A. “Those sluts.”

            Person B. “It is obvious that reducing abortion is NOT in fact the most important thing. By their fruit shall ye know them.”

          • Rebecca

            You are so foolish!! I hope you don’t have children. They are in sorry shape with you as a parent.

          • Cady555

            So kind.

          • Rebecca

            Truth stinks. Abortion isn’t kind.

          • Cady555

            Then support those things demonstrated to reduce the number nof abortions

          • Rebecca

            Nope. You wanna have sex, provide your own protection against the scary babies that can be the result.

          • Cady555

            Read what you wrote.

            I said “support those things demonstrated to reduce the number of abortions”

            You said “Nope”

            You could not have been more clear. You said you do not want to reduce abortion.

          • Rebecca

            Why reduce something I’m not supportive of. As I’ve said before, abortions should be banned all together. There’s your reduction. 100%

      • Cady555

        Why do I believe what I do about abortion? That is a good question. Thank you for asking. Here is my answer. Note – I don’t expect you to agree, but thank you for listening.

        My support is two part, and entirely based on value for human life.

        First, women have value as people. They are not uteri with feet. They have families and financial needs and health issues. They have a right to control what happens to their bodies. Think of it as a Stand Your Ground law. Also, back alley abortions are horrific. If an abortion is going to happen, it should be safe because women are people who have value.

        Second, I’ve learned enough about fetal development that I do not believe a fertilized egg is a person. People ask “what if you had been aborted?” Then I would not exist. If my parents had never met, I would not exist. If a different sperm or no sperm had fertilized a specific egg several decades ago, I would not exist. Because I exist, my mother did not get pregnant with different person in the next several months, and one of millions of other people that might have existed doesn’t exist.

        Morally, I believe every child born should be born to parents who have the physical, financial and emotional resources to care for them. Every child breathing on this earth should be free from abuse and hunger and deprivation. Every child should have clothing and health care and ab education. Until we can do that for the children breathing on this earth, I believe it is immoral to focus on fertilized cells.

        Thank you for listening.

        • Rebecca

          Thanks for answering. You are deceived. Like ladyfreebird says you are in denial of the truth. Bye.

        • Sean

          So, you use a quote from Christ to make your argument, but you neglect the others like Jer 1:5Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” So, are you now saying God lied?

          • Cady555

            It would appear that that verse is talking about one specific person, not every fertilized egg ever. Likewise Psalm 139 with the last few verses ignored.

            But that’s not the point. If someone says over and over that they want to reduce abortion but repeatedly chooses actions that increase abortion, that’s called a clue.

          • Sean

            Oh, so he only knew one before they were born. Typical liberal theology, which by the way is a new teaching and you were warned about new teachings and believing in them.

          • Rebecca

            You haven’t got a clue about what you’re talking about. You are using the phrase “reducing” abortion. No, let’s stop abortions altogether!!

          • Cady555

            Stopping all abortions isn’t one of the choices. Abortions have been occurring since the dawn of civilization. Prior to Roe V. Wade, in the US, bleach, coat hangers, dentists and barbers were among the sources for abortions. Those options with the resulting harm to women will still exist.

            Compare it to traditional murder. Murders will happen. So would you say “let’s decrease the murder rate” or “until all murders end I will not take steps to decrease the murder rate.”

            So right now, do yo want to reduce the number of abortions or increase the number of abortions?

          • Rebecca

            Stop all abortions all around, but that’s too much for you isn’t it. If you don’t want a baby keep your pants on. Don’t snuff out a life just because you are not mature enough to deal with the consequences of your choices. If you want to have sex, go ahead and pay for your own birth control.

    • Sean

      And with like all political things. All they are saying is if you agree with the success of that program go and buy them yourself and pay for them with your own own money. The quote you used from Christ has nothing to do with your side of the argument. The pastor is showing the fruit that has led him to protest.

      • Cady555

        Most teenagers and young adults do not have $800 up front for long acting contraception.

        Do you want to reduce abortion or not?

        • Sean

          So, they have the money for an Iphone but not for condoms.

          • Cady555

            1. Judge, criticize and mock OR 2. Facilitate contraception and reduce abortion. You choose.

            If I had a choice between overlooking behavior I did not like or saving a life, I would save the life.

          • Rebecca

            You’re ridiculous. You want the sex, but not the consequences. Good point Sean made with the cell phones or whatever thing they do pay for that they don’t need yet, but give me my free contraceptives. Crazy.

          • gizmo23

            If it would stop abortions it would be a cheap price to pay

          • JGC

            “Consequences of sex”, Rebecca? Is it your position that pregnancy represents a punishment for engaging in sexual intercourse, which people should not be allowed to avoid?

        • Rebecca

          Put it off on “reducing” abortions. You don’t seem to want to reduce irresponsible or too early sexual activity.

          • Cady555

            Hmm. Choosing between minding my own business about another person’s sex life and preventing something I think is murder, wow that’s a toughy. Not.

          • Rebecca

            You are twisted.

          • gizmo23

            I would rather have every kid having sex than having abortions

  • MARINE73

    Janet Mills is a big problem in Maine. She is more about politics than about protecting the rights of all Maine citizens. She is nothing more than a career politician who uses her position to promote a pro-gay, pro-abortion agenda. We need to change the way our Attorney General is chosen, it should be by the people, not the politicians. This exemplifies the need for that change. God bless Pastor Ingalls. This is NOT about healthcare, this is about ending another person’s life. No one has the right to kill another person, no one.

    • Rebecca

      Exactly!!

    • Brenda Cressey

      She sure is a big problem in Maine 😉

  • Andy Schmelzer

    That’s the new trend it seems like lately. They know that they can’t use content of speech against us so they now are making claims of it being too loud. And they don’t even need a decimal meter, they just make the claims and judges buy it. Christian defense lawyers need to get together and figure out a way to defend these “too loud” opinions.