‘Losing My Religion’: Gospel Singer Kirk Franklin Apologizes for ‘Homophobia’ in Church

Franklin-compressedFORT WORTH, Texas — Grammy Award-winning gospel artist Kirk Franklin, who released his new album “Losing My Religion” on Friday, told reporters this week that he “apologizes” for “homophobia” in the Church, stating that Christians have turned the Bible into “a homophobic manual.”

“I want to apologize for all of the hurtful and painful things that have been said about people in the Church that have been talented and gifted and musical, that we’ve used and we’ve embarrassed them and made sermons—‘Adam and Steve,’ and all this other horrible crap that we’ve done,” Franklin told The Grio. “We have not treated them like people, human beings. We’re talking about human beings, men and women that God has created as people.”

He acknowledged that the Bible does count homosexuality as a sin along with fornication and adultery, but said that the Scriptures also talk about grace.

“That’s what the Bible talks about,” Franklin admitted. “And you know what else the Bible talks about along with that? It talks about grace. It talks about love. It talks about mercy, because we are all in need of that.”

“The Bible is not a book that’s an attack on gay people,” he continued. “It’s not a book written to attack gay people.”

“It feels that way sometimes,” interviewer Chris Witherspoon remarked.

“I agree with you,” Franklin replied. “It’s horrible.”

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The gospel singer, known for his songs “Stomp” and “Lean on Me,” told the outlet that he wants people to understand that God is about love and grace.

“It is horrible that we have made it where the Bible is a homophobic manual,” Franklin said. “That’s not what the Bible is. I mean you want to talk about things that God gets at: pride and jealousy and envy and haughtiness and arrogance. But what we also see is God sending His Son to save us all, because we were all—straight, gay or whatever—lost and in need of a Savior, and there’s room at the cross for all of us.”

Franklin says that the title of his new album “Losing My Religion,” his first after a five-year hiatus, is meant to relay that he thinks the love of God should be preached over the fear of God.

“I want people to see the love of God and not the fear of God,” he explained to Pix11. “I want people to be able to experience how much God loves us as His kids. And most people will never have that view of God if we keep putting the rules in front of them instead of the relationship.”

“In the beginning religion, created a mask/For generations, church was where we went to go hide/Rules without relationship is empty inside,” Franklin also posted on Instagram, presumably quoting the lyrics from his album, which released today. “There’s room at the cross for everyone, even me/Religion is a prison, but truth sets us free.”

Reaction to Franklin’s comments has been mixed.

“Amen, Kirk. It always blows my mind how people can profess faith and the love of Christ with one side of their face, while preaching hatred and bigotry against a segment of God’s children with the other side,” wrote commenter Dawn Givens under the Grio article.

“He [expletive] called the Bible ‘God’s love letter’ and then later says that he can’t change what the Bible says about homosexuals. But then in some other way implicitly admits that people have used the Bible in their preachments against homosexuals,” commenter named Danielle Black wrote, expressing confusion. “Which one is it? Is it a ‘love letter’ or not?”

“First of all, remember that Kirk Franklin does not speak for the entire African-American Christian community, therefore he cannot issue an apology for them,” commenter Billy Boyd wrote, disagreeing with Franklin. “Because someone chooses to stand on biblical truth does not make them homophobic. To the contrary, they do not fear homosexuals, but most love them [yet] hate the sin.”

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  • Rebecca

    The Bible is a love letter to those who are saved. To the lost, it is a fable or foolishness.

    • Emmanuel

      Nailed it

      • Andy McDougall

        says the guy with the cross as his profile photo

        • Emmanuel

          What part of her statement is not true? She nailed it as in she’s correct 100%

  • Emmanuel

    Kirk, it might be time for a real prayer of salvation and repentance.

    • Shirley Kelly


  • Wes Wright

    Yes the Bible is a wonderful statement of grace and mercy. It also tells us who will NOT see the Kingdom of God…..read the Bible folks and live accordingly

    • gizmo23

      Only those not saved will not reiveve grace

  • Logan Ashli Greene

    The love of God but not the fear of God? Foolish. We are to approach the throne with fear and trembling. He is just, loving and merciful yes, but He is also mighty!

    • Akindele Akinbayo

      Thank you Logan.
      It’s the watered down sloppy agape love of a “toothless bullgod” they’re preaching.
      I’m glad folks are seeing through the subtle deceit.

    • gizmo23

      If I have been promised salvation and accepted it why should I fear God?

      • Steve67

        “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,
        and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.’ “- Proverbs 9:10

      • Jed

        Because God is the Amighty creator, we have to respect Him and love Him..how do we love Him? By keeping His Commandments..John 14.15….your salvation is doubtful if you do not do that…Read Revelation 13 and 14…Salvation is for those who have the testimony of Jesus, and FOLLOW THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD.

        • gizmo23

          I am forgiven of all sins. That doesn’t mean I can or want to do whatever I want. But once I’m forgiven I become an equal in Gods eyes

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            You are forgiven upon your repentance. If you are repentant, then sin cannot rule your life. If unrepentant, then you do not really know nor put your trust in God. You can never be an “equal” before God. Your understanding is in need of a Bible preaching and teaching church.

      • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

        IF, you do not know. Fear in this use is “respect” and “awe” of who God actually is.

    • thelordlives2011

      Logan, you are outstanding and correct. In America, people have forgot the Fear of God and replaced with love of self, and this includes the Church. Kirk Franklin has an agenda. You can not received the Grace of God til you have first accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Then you give up hedonistic lasciviousness sinful lifestyle called Homosexuality.

  • afchief

    Yes homosexuality is sin and we Christians look at this sin as the sin of all sins. What about the 50 to 90% of Christian men watching porn? What about the divorces taking place in the church? What about all the pride, gossip, coveting, greed, lying going on in our churches? Doe the world see Christ in us or a judgmental body of Christ? Are we to kick these people out of church just because their gay? Or I we to love them and show them Christ without judging them?

    If God is not judging homosexuals until they leave this earth (Heb 9:27) why are we judging them. Jesus did not come to earth to judge anyone (John 3:17). Why should we judge them? Yes sin has consequences and people will reap what they sow, but judgement does not take place until we leave this earth or go through the tribulation period.

    People keep thinking God is up there waiting to pounce on and judge all the sin taking place down here. It ain’t going to happen!!! God is love and is patient wanting none to perish. Sinners will be judged when they leave this earth and ONLY then.

    I have asked Christians to show me ONE country that has been judged since Jesus went to the Cross. They can’t! Because there is NO proof and people do not know the heart of God.

    When was the last time you shared the love of Christ with a homosexual?

    • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

      Tonight, my mother is Gay, you are right that sins are equal, however the moment we teach that sinning is ok we put everyone under that teaching at risk,. it is not enough to believe in Christ, we have to live in Christ, and we are being negligent by wrapping the truth up in cotton wool. Of course that does not mean a homosexual can not go to church, there are a few that go to my church but they abstain from sex, celibates are common in our church, what ever their sexuality

      • afchief

        My point is the world will never see Christ in us if we are constantly judging them for their sins.

        Sinners sin, it’s what they do. Look past the sin and see them as Jesus sees them.

        • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

          There is a misnomer that Christ tells us not to judge, instead he teaches us not be hypocritical. Warning someone that they will burn themselves if they pick up a hot plate is not judgemental, its good ward ship of your brother / sister, and there is far more to risk than a burnt hand if people think that grace alone is enough to go to heaven.

          It is necessary for us to LIVE in Christ, and if we miss this message, and its easily done with more and more ministers teaching purely love without fear, trying to be popular instead of insightful, holy instead of truthful.

          I do not judge someone for being Gay, but I have no problem saying that it is sin to have sex in that relationship, just as it is to have sex out of marriage, that I still love someone what ever orientation they are and so does God but they need to be able to show a clean soul to God on their judgement day. Repentance is necessary, not just preferred, relationship with God is necessary, not just preferred and I believe you not not have one without the other.

          As for the world judging Christians, I get asked about my thoughts on gay marriage and relationships often, and I am honest, I do not hate the person, I love them, that it is sin to have homosexual relations, but that it is not sin to be a homosexual and we can not loose track of the fact that sex outside of marriage is sin and that celibacy is an option if someone truly wishes to follow Christ. That I do not judge anyone who choices not to follow Christ as that’s a choice between them and God

          edit: one last thought Audacity is a free to watch movie by livingwatersministry and is a great movie to sort your thoughts out on the issue without having to be overly offensive but still being truthful

          • Andy McDougall

            “Judge not, and you will not be judged.” Seems pretty clear that is not a misnomer.

          • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

            Quoting this from christianitytoday

            This is biblically sound and by not absorbing this fully you water down the bible to the point where salvation may be lost if not by you then by the people you tell this watered down gospel to.

            Even people who know very little about the Bible are usually familiar with Jesus’ saying “Judge not, that ye be not judged” (Matthew 7:1, KJV). This command is part of Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount; it is Jesus’ most popular saying because our culture values tolerance so highly.

            But it is usually ripped out of context and misinterpreted.

            Matthew 7:1-5 includes Jesus’ warning about trying to take a speck out of a neighbor’s eye while ignoring the log in your own eye. In verse five, Jesus makes clear the audience he is addressing: “You hypocrite!” When Jesus says “Do not judge,” he is warning people against heaping criticism and condemnation on others without being willing to examine one’s own behaviour. Clearly the context is one in which some religious leaders were harshly condemning other people while attempting to justify their own sinfulness.

            Furthermore, many people are unaware of balancing texts about judging in the rest of the New Testament. These include Jesus’ command “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgement” (John 7:24, NRSV), and Paul’s rhetorical question “Is it not those who are inside [the church] that you are to judge?” (1 Cor. 5:12). Clearly not all judging is forbidden. If that were the case, the church could have no boundaries; the body of Christ would not be a body but a gaseous vapour!

            Paul urged the Corinthian church to exclude the man who was living with his father’s wife; he ordered them not to associate with people who claim to be Christians but live blatantly sinful lives without repentance (1 Cor. 5). Did Paul simply forget Jesus’ command not to judge? Was he unaware of it? That’s doubtful. Rather, we should suppose that Jesus meant only to condemn hypocritical judging. When the church must discipline a member, it should always do so in full recognition of everyone’s lack of perfection and need of the Saviour.

            Some churches and Christian organizations avoid church discipline because it is a form of judging, and judging is wrongly equated with intolerance. Judging is then (ironically) judged incompatible with the spirit of Jesus’ teaching. Church discipline is surely the more biblical approach, even as it is fraught with danger.

            The New Testament condemns every spirit that says Jesus Christ has not come in the flesh (1 John 4). Today the problem is more likely to arise around denials of Christ’s deity. And yet Christ’s deity is a non-negotiable of Christian faith that is crucial to the gospel. Christians should not tolerate denials of such central truths within the church, and must discipline with love those who knowingly reject the truth of the Incarnation.

            Similarly, the New Testament condemns immorality, including homosexual behaviour (Rom. 1:26-27). Churches that condone such behaviour among believers are abdicating their responsibility to shepherd God’s flock.

            Church discipline inexorably involves making judgements and even judging people’s behaviour, but it can be done in a non-judgemental and humble manner. One church I know stripped a man of membership, without shaming or humiliating him, because he refused to cease an adulterous relationship or repent of it. He was encouraged to continue attending worship services, and his involvement in the church eventually contributed to his repentance and restoration to full fellowship. The church acknowledged that everyone sins, but recognized the importance of a repentant spirit. Without such humble discipline, there is no real discipleship.

            Finally, even though the context of Matthew 7 may not require it, one is justified in thinking that Jesus does not want us to take God’s place in determining individual persons’ ultimate spiritual fate. This would be another example of inappropriate judging. Which specific individuals of our acquaintance will end up in heaven and which will end up in hell is not for us to determine. That judgement belongs to God alone.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Don’t cherry pick Andy. Read the rest of the section:

            Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

            (Mat 7:1-5 KJV)


          • Andy McDougall

            Its not cherry picking. If it was, then Christ would be guilty of something here. Had the passage begun with, “Judge carefully, that ye be not judged, the context that follows would make more sense. But he didn’t say “judge carefully,” he said judge not. And his message had a specific target, the Pharisees. If I am in a state of sin, and my pastor wants to counsel me about it, I’m all ears, and will listen to any reasonable instruction that he/she wants to direct at me with love. But Christ was speaking to the Pharisees, about as corrupt a group as existed within the Jewish faith at that time, and he said “Judge not…” If my pastor wants to preach on a particular area of sin that he/she feels God has placed on his/her heart for a given Sunday morning, I am listening. If the guy across the aisle and two rows up has a problem with how I am living my life, or what my friends or neighbours or relatives are doing, I am not so interested. I live my life the best I can, always seeking the Lord’s guidance and support in prayer. I know in the end, I am going to have some serious issues to answer for. But I also know who I am going to have to answer to, and it isn’t anyone posting on this thread.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Judging is always to be righteous.

            We are commanded to do NO unrighteousness in judgment.

            We must compare Scripture with Scripture to understand the whole context.

            As for you, you are really off-base considering a woman as a pastor. No wonder you are the cherry picker I properly rebuked. #femprop

          • Andy McDougall

            Woman cannot be pastors. where do you get this crap? certainly not in the bible, and certainly not from a loving relationship with your saviour. get bent

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            YOU posted it fool. “He/she & his/her”.

            You are so full of shit you can’t even read straight, much less speak straight.

            YOU are the fool that needs to “get bent”.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            do u even read what u write? “he/she” referring to PASTOR who preaches. YOU wrote that.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            YOU stated pastors can be male/female. u need to “get bent” and repent.

          • afchief

            I don’t recall Jesus going up to a sinner and pointing out their sin and saying repent of “sin” or you are going to hell. When the woman who was caught in adultery was put at Jesus’s feet he did not condemn her of her sins. No, he said go and sin no more.

            Jesus was only hard on the religious people of that time and also the Jewish leaders.

          • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

            I am paraphrasing as I am at work, but he said now go and sin no more, teaching that we can’t constantly act against God and then hide behind the cross is not acceptable. This does not mean that you can not be forgiven but you must repent that sin aka requires you to actively want to follow gods will to receive that forgiveness when I get home will look up the relevant passages. Jesus taught us to not be hypocrites and he did not hate holy men or teach against them, but instead he taught against the hypocrites who made rules and laws but had no love in their hearts for either God or their fellow man but did care about their image to others

          • afchief

            I think we are talking about two different things here. I talking about not judging sinners. Not Christians who sin.

          • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

            Question: “If I am saved and all of my sins are forgiven, why not continue to sin?”

            Answer: The apostle Paul answered a very similar question in Romans 6:1-2, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” The idea that a person could “trust in Jesus Christ” for salvation and then go on living just as he/she lived before, is absolutely foreign to the Bible. Believers in Christ are new creations (2 Corinthians 5:17). The Holy Spirit changes us from producing the acts of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21) to producing the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23). The Christian life is a changed life because the Christian is changed.

            What differentiates Christianity from every other religion is that Christianity is based on what God has done for us through Jesus Christ—divine accomplishment. Every other world religion is based on what we must do to earn God’s favor and forgiveness—human achievement. Every other religion teaches that we must do certain things and stop doing certain other things in order to earn God’s love and mercy. Christianity, faith in Christ, teaches that we do certain things and stop doing certain things because of what Christ has done for us.

            How could anyone, having been delivered from sin’s penalty, eternity in hell, go back to living the same life that had him on the path to hell in the first place? How could anyone, having been cleansed from the defilement of sin, desire to go back to the same cesspool of depravity? How could anyone, knowing what Jesus Christ did on our behalf, go on living as if He were not important? How could anyone, realizing how much Christ suffered for our sins, continue sinning as if those sufferings were meaningless?

            Romans 6:11-15 declares, “In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!”

            For the truly converted, then, continuing to live sinfully is not an option. Because our conversion resulted in a completely new nature, our desire is to no longer live in sin. Yes, we still sin, but instead of wallowing in it as we once did, we now hate it and wish to be delivered from it. The idea of “taking advantage” of Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf by continuing to live sinfully is unthinkable. If a person believes himself to be a Christian and still desires to live the old, sinful life, he has reason to doubt his salvation. “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?” (2 Corinthians 13:5).

          • afchief

            I’m not talking about Christians continuing to live in sin. I’m talking about us Christians judging the lost for their sins.

          • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

            In either case judge the sin not the person, we need to be open to admit what is a sin, not who is a sinner for we are all sinners

          • Cyndi L

            Jesus did tell us to “rebuke,” but that isn’t the same as judging. We are to rebuke in love.

  • Steve67

    He sets up grace and the law in such a way as to imply that grace negates the law, which it does not do at all. Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. It appears Franklin has bought into the revisionist worldview that loves to cite Jesus when He says “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” but conveniently ignores what He says soon after “Go forth and sin no more..”

    • Andy McDougall

      Go forth and sin no more? Very realistic

      • Steve67

        You’re right. It’s not realistic. In fact it’s impossible for us until Christ returns. That’s why Jesus tells us that He will abide in those who abide in Him. You don’t abide in Christ by living according to the flesh, but by living by faith. Yes until Christ returns we will sin, but our response to sin is not to affirm it but to repent.

        • Andy McDougall

          If its not realistic, why did he instruct her to go forth and not do something that was inevitable?

          • Steve67

            It’s inevitable that she will struggle with the flesh until all things are made new. But she is a new creation in Christ through faith. As long as she abides in Christ and repents when she gives in to the weakness of the flesh then she will always be seen by God as having received the righteousness of Christ through faith.

  • Toro Keng

    Every religious leaders mixed truths and false, here and there, this award winner is no different.

    Rily ??!!!
    not the fear of God??!!

    I guess, he is just another ”christian” who adapts to those ”new movement” teaching…..

    PS: If everything is only about Love, I wouldn’t come to God, because, every worldly religions spread the message of love. But the God in the bible is different. And His salvation for us is unique. None like His. None like Him. No not one, No not one.

  • Nidalap

    Golden calf religion…

  • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

    Crazy, still hearing this message that it is ok to sin, it is not sinful to be homosexual, it is a sin to have sex in a homosexual relationship, which is the same as having sex outside of marriage. This soft cell Christianity sells our people out to be fallen, Jesus taught love and respect, but he also taught us obedience in love, worship and living your faith, not just in law but once again in love. We are required to act in love of God, of each other, to fully follow Him, or we shall be damned, church goers, seem holy, seem Christian, but not living the life, fully, please don’t be false!

    • Cyndi L

      The Bible teaches explicitly that our thoughts are a direct bearing on being holy. Our thoughts are to be holy; our ideas, our desires, our imaginations…The Lord God says to be holy because He is holy. How is it not sinful to be homosexual without consecrating it? Obviously, sinful desires and imaginings are present if a person considers themself homosexual. This is a lie from Satan that you are something other than what you were created to be by God. There are many different sexual sins and all begin in the mind. Jesus said that was the same as the sinful act itself. As Christians, we should all pray for strength from temptation and to love the Lord our God with all our heart, all our mind, all our soul and all our body. We must also love our neighbor as ourself. These are the two commandments that Jesus gave us in order to fulfill the Mosaic Law. Every answer you need to life is right there in the Bible. Do NOT be fooled by man’s rationale of God’s Word.

      • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

        I agree with almost everything you say except one point, which is that “thought” in the translation looses some of the meaning, it is an action, a wilful thing in the Greek, it is not an accidental image, it is a deliberate act, a verb. As such we need to be mindful to the fact that we have the innate ability to control that which seems impossible. Mind God does change our hearts and minds, to deliberately have “thoughts” in the original meaning is really a will-full act against God not a dalliance. As for love of God and also our neighbour that is of course required but having a desire without making it a “thought” an action truly is not a sin. We must embrace those who seek God, whether they are Gay Straight or indifferent, and God will show his love what ever their ideal relationship was before. Celibacy is always an option for those who seek God, once again if you are straight gay or indifferent.

      • BalancedMind

        Love is holy… even if it is same sex love

  • Mr. Avatar

    No one should apologize to the world for the church – the world should apologize to the church for the supreme courts rulings of the 1st amendment on the church and same sex marriage. You’re a weak Christian.

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      Isn’t this about seperation from church and state? Or am I wrong? I mean the church don’t have a patent on marriage, right?

      • Cyndi L

        No, but God does.

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Got proof?

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            The Word.

    • BalancedMind

      Give to caesar what is due to caesar… even Jesus was for separation of the church and state

  • EmpressRed

    I find his words self-contradicting. Well, he do has a point on how to treat gays like humans like duhh~ They’re REAL humans. But the line “I want people to see the love of God and not the fear of God” is quite… erroneous for me. In my own opinion both must be seen. God is merciful but also he can be merciless. Oh well, let’s spread the love <3

    • Hitgurl Smn eu Hitgírl tm eu

      Love without fear creates the cartoon version of God in our minds, its becoming a common image in churches today. My God is mighty, I do fear him, and I love him. We must try to dispel the idea that you can have one without the other.

  • Valri

    It’s like a breath of fresh air to see someone finally speak out against Christian hatred and bigotry. This man is an inspiration.

  • Larry Sullivan

    God dose Love all, But hates Sin. If you live in sin day by day, doing the same sin you will go to Hell. Being gay is a choose, and people pick that life style. People saying they was born gay is one of the Stupidest things I’ve ever heard. By saying that make God going against his self, and that just wrong. God don’t make mistakes. And there will NEVER BE A GAY PERSON ENTERING HEAVEN.

    • Andy McDougall

      This post is one of the most stupid things I have ever read. Learn to spell, and pull up your socks on grammar. Being born gay has been proven scientifically, across all animal species including humans. And if someone has accepted Christ as their personal saviour, and they are gay, you will see them in heaven you homophobic fool.

      • Jed

        Where did you read all that BS you are spouting..you idiot..male and female, man and woman were made to populate the earth, and God in Lev 18 and 20 forbids homosexual sex..period….it is a filthy, disease causing, sick, perverted form of sex…if you had half a brain and did some research you would see that…dah..wake up

        • Bezukhov

          I had a cat that was exclusively Gay. He was a Persian, and a female Persian owned by a neighbor was in heat. We thought what a beautiful litter of kittens we’d see from this union. Buttons, the male, took one look at Scheherazade and ran and hid under the bed. A couple of months later we took in a stray male, and Buttons was instantly love struck. Followed him everywhere and tried to mate with him constantly.

        • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

          The “disease” you speak of is actually rooted in DEMONS named HOMOSEXUAL & LESBIAN.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Roflmao!!!!!!! Riiiiiiiiiight!

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      You really think being homosexual is a choice? You know in a way I’m glad that I am hetero, I don’t know if I could take all the hate, discrimination, abuse if I would be homosexual. I respect those people for being so strong, have the courage to come out, I don’t know if I could do that. So think again before you say that being homosexual is a choice.

      • Jed

        If they want to bumf..k/sodomize each other, let them do it..why do they have to keep drawing attention to themselves..who gives a sh.t what pervert stuff they do? The disease they get from sodomy well they will have to deal with that!

        • Valri

          What does sodomy have to do with this? Lesbians are half the homosexual population, how many of them do you think engage in it? You are specifically picking on gay men, lots of whom don’t do it either, and you’re conveniently forgetting that TONS of straight couples do it!

          • Jed

            Pervert women “lesbians” don’t even come into the equation…they do not have the necessary equipment to commit sodomy or anal intercourse aka.the Bible says in Lev 18 and 20, if a man lays with a man as he would a woman it is an abomination to God…sorry women you are not included..unless of course you get a “snap on” tool…lol

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            But they have sex toys.

          • Valri

            So then how come you’re giving the straight men who practice it a free pass, and condemning the gay men who DON’T do it (and lots don’t)?

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Yeah yeah, we get it. You don’t like homosexuals. You know it’s funny how articles about GLBT people getting the most conments on the christian boards here on disqus. So who is it that draws the attention to those kind of articles? Ask them to stop posting them and the homosexuals will have less attention from this side.

      • Oboehner

        Learned behavior like Pavlov’s dog. A choice.

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Yeah yeah, we get it. You’re a homophobe.

          • Oboehner

            Yeah yeah we get it, you’re a heterophobe.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Mmhmm, lets see my check list.

            I don’t go around telling hetero couples they can’t get married. Check

            I don’t tell them that having sex is deviant and a sin. Check

            I don’t tell them they can’t have kids, or adopt them. Check

            I don’t tell them they go to hell for loving each other. Check

            Right! That makes me a heterophobe how? And they have anal sex too you know and the ocational bl0wjob. I do anyways. ;-);-);-);-) Oh oops that makes me hetero, right? Just asking.

          • Oboehner

            Then you must be a pedophobe and a bestiphobe as well, telling people they can’t marry their dog, I’d even bet you’d prosecute Gideon Swatzentruber.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Pedophelia and bestiality are a crime, even here after 14 years of marriage equality, being homosexual or hetero not. Have no clue who that guy is, have to look him up.

          • Oboehner

            In many states, sodomy is still a crime, what’s your point?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            You mean like pedophilia, rape, incest, bestiality? Yep same here, still a crime.

          • Oboehner

            And homophobia is just a meaningless epithet.

  • Reason2012

    “I want people to see the love of God and not the fear of God,” he explained to Pix11.

    God says the opposite.

    “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.”
    Psalms 111:10

    “[Jesus said] And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.”
    Luke 12:4-5

    So who are we going to listen to? Another person selling a false version of what God says to sell albums, or to God?

    It’s not a phobia to point out to others what God says about sin when they ADMIT they will live in that sin and are trying to legally force acceptance of that sin upon society (same-gender marriage).

    And what does God point out to us about those who try to “teach” others like this man is doing?

    “My brethren, be not many masters [teachers], knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. For in many things we offend [cause to sin] all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.”
    James 3:1-2

    He will answer for teaching others that we should accept homosexuality and not speak out against it as a sin, let alone teaching others to stop teaching the fear of the Lord.

  • Rev Donald Spitz

    Maybe he and his ‘gay’ friends can take a steam bath together and discuss.

    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of
    them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their
    blood shall be upon them.

    Romans 1:24
    Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own
    hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: :26 For this cause God
    gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural
    use into that which is against nature: :27 And likewise also the men, leaving
    the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with
    men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence
    of their error which was meet.

  • Donna Szelowski

    The fear of God is the beginning of knowledge the Bible .Even Jesus said to fear He Who can throw you into hell.I know the Lord works in many ways in saving souls.For me it was the fear of an eternity in hell.

  • Ax2root

    Losing mans religion is good. LEAVING TRUTH is bad.

    There is no dichotomy or difference between Grace and Truth, they came by Jesus the Christ IN ONE PERSON.

    The Word opposes ALL homosexual desires and behaviors and wants people DELIVERED FROM HOMOSEXUALITY

  • Cathy Sufrich

    Why don’t you see what the bible actually says before making up your mind?

    Mark 10: 6-8

    Romans 1:18-32

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

    1 Timothy 1:8-10

    Jude 1:7

    • BalancedMind

      Don’t forget Romans 2…

  • FoJC_Forever

    Maybe he is referring to the groups of people who preach anger and hatred toward those in this specific sin, rather than telling them they can be saved from it. This is prolific, for certain. Maybe he is just giving in to the demons who are pushing the acceptance of homosexuality as normal.

    Those who dismiss homosexuality as not being a sin are in as much error as those who preach the Law concerning Sin, rather than the offer of Redemption through Jesus (the) Christ.

    One big mistake he makes is adopting and using the term ‘homophobic’. This isn’t a term which Christians should be repeating and promoting. It’s a bully term used to scare people into accepting homosexuality. It is only used to make people who would declare the Truth about the sin look as though they are mean and in some sort of imagined fear of its acceptance in society.

    One extreme is not correct, just because another, opposite extreme is present.

  • Terry Williams

    I agree, hate the sin, love the sinner. The bible speaks about repentance and forgiveness which is why preaching that homosexuality is wrong, is necessary. I’m not homophobic. I work in the same building with several homosexuals and show them respect as I would anyone else. But if they want to bring up the subject, I feel obligated to tell them what I believe the bible states about it in a kind and tactful manner.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    That’s me in the corner
    That’s me in the spotlight
    Losing my religion
    Trying to keep up with you
    … oh no wait, I don’t need to keep up with you.

  • http://meetchristians.com/ randalusa

    The liberal atheist professional liars at ABC News, NBC, NPR and CBS (Comedy Central too) teach their gullible audience members that truth equals either hatred or craziness. And as we have all witnessed, millions of them believe what they are told. Children should be armed with knowledge about where the force of evil comes from in our land. Parents and preachers have been asleep on the job, failing to train warriors, even enrolling their own kids in the deceit factories we call public schools. Please view the video, Time for Christians and conservatives to shut up, stop pretending to care. It is free with no ads.

    America has already been conquered. Yet there remains time to negotiate the terms of our new life in a land thoroughly devastated with a culture forever altered after the elite quietly admitted 120 million immigrants over the last 40 years. They deliberately chose people with different values than those from our heritage. Most conservatives chose to flee into the suburbs beginning ages ago rather than fighting for honorable neighborhoods against the pimps who hand out the heroin of free money to Democrat welfare babies. All it takes is a couple days spent in an inner city to realize how extensive the losses are, how the country does not even look like the one we grew up in. Moreover, the massive immigration continues. We are talking like 5,000 new residents, mostly LEGAL, per DAY pouring into this country. You can NOT wait for the right Republican president to come along. Fighting for truth and against liars must begin immediately. That or just confess a lack of willingness to let actions match words and get busy enjoying life in the land of deceitful atheist neo-communism.

  • Teresa Geib Bacon

    so now hes gone the itchy ear way too. So many veiled people Mercy and Grace is what God is, but we are to held accountable to share Gospel Truth.

  • crusader51

    God’s unmerited love is granted after repentance…that means to stop sinning and follow the rules God sets forth in His love story. Grace is for all of us as we diligently go through the process of change from a life of sin to a life of righteousness. Salvation and Baptism are the public commitments to do your best to live your life according to God’s Word.
    Jesus said ” Where are your accusers? Go and sin no more…” He never once anywhere in His word says sin is acceptable. We are commanded to turn away from sin ALL SIN…including homosexuality.

  • Jsai

    I want to recite what a gospel rap artist said: His name is Roderick Williams and the album is “Stand, Awake to Righteousness”. The song is compromise.
    “Our GOD don’t compromise
    so why do we choose to believe our lies
    enter into church with our foolish pride
    as if our sins are pushed to the side
    compromise all type of ways
    have the audacity to label it grace
    make excuses for our sins as if its ok
    disregarding GOD’s word and what he have to say
    but as long as their’s worldly success
    attempt to edify with our own 10 steps
    seeking after flesh for inspirational text
    but overlooking the foundation what is that
    few want to make a stand again
    few want to live a life of holiness
    few want to live a life of sacrifice
    few got it that Jesus is Lord of their lives
    It’s what GOD’s word say
    not what people now say
    not what the majority say
    not what me or anybody else say”

  • archaeologist

    another misguided soul who does not know what love or grace means. nor does he understand that those practicing, living in sin must give up their sin if they want to be included in God’s kingdom and church

  • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

    Mr. Franklin, the Bible also speaks of God’s justice and Holiness. Homosexuality is a sin, in need of acknowledgement, and repentance.

  • TheBottomline4This

    If you’re not a true Christian, I hope you’ll see the errors of your ways and quit riding the road of compromise. If you are a true Christian, you need to speak out about all sins, which include the practice of homosexuality. We are to love the person, not the sin.