Students Show Support for Teacher Reportedly Reprimanded for Talking About God in Class

Santa Rosa-compressedSANTA ROSA, Texas — Dozens of students from a high school in Texas showed their support on Monday for a math teacher who was reportedly reprimanded for speaking about God in the classroom.

More than 50 students from Santa Rosa High School gathered outside the school yesterday chanting and holding signs in advocacy for algebra teacher Charles Zeissel.

“If speaking the word of God is wrong, then I don’t want to be right,” one sign read. “A good teacher is like a candle. It consumes itself to light the way for others,” another stated.

According to reports, officials approached Zeissel last week over concerns that he had been talking to students about God and reciting the Bible in class.

Santa Rosa ISD Superintendent Heriberto Villarreal told KGBT-TV that “board policy does not allow the promotion of religion during class time.”

Students thought that perhaps Zeissel had been disciplined for speaking about his Christian faith, or possibly even suspended or fired, but Villareal said that Zeissel was not punished.

“Zeissel! Zeissel!” students chanted as they faced traffic.

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Zeissel arrived to teach class on Monday, meeting with parents and students before class.

Harvard College, the first institution of higher learning in America, wrote into its 1642 laws the requirement that students place Christ at the forefront of their studies.

“Let every student be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ which is eternal life (John 17:3),” its founders declared. “And seeing the Lord only gives wisdom, let everyone seriously set himself by prayer in secret to seek it of Him (Proverbs 2:3).”

“Everyone shall so exercise himself in reading the Scriptures twice a day that he shall be ready to give such an account of his proficiency therein, both in theoretical observations of the language and the logic, and in practical and spiritual truths, as his tutor shall require, according to his ability; seeing the entrance of the word giveth light, it giveth understanding, to the simple (Psalm 119:130),” the laws outlined.


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  • W.J. D

    It is high time Christians of US stand up and boldly profess their faith. They have drifted far away enough from Christ and his teachings. It is time now to return and boldly stand up. Do not give dime to the atheists, agonistics and Muslims. Exert yourself and free America from Non-Believers in Christ.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Which would be fine, as long as they don’t do it while in their capacity as agents of the state. Christian teachers can “boldly profess their faith” early in the morning, after school, at night, and all day on weekends.

      If that isn’t enough time, they can work at a private school and “boldly profess their faith” 24/7.

      • afchief

        You are wrong again!!! In fact you are ALWAYS wrong!!! I have asked you numerous times to show me how a government employee can establish a law by saying any kind of prayer. Yet you have shown me NOTHING!!! Do I need to interpret the 1st amendment for you?

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

        Is the teacher congress? Did she establish a law by talking about her God?

        And you call yourself a lawyer?!?!?!

        • Random dude

          This would usually be the part where we point out case law, but case law doesn’t apply to afchief and his brand of true Christianity.

          • afchief

            Case law??? Nope, that is a bold face godless liberal lie. The right to pray is unalienable. The First Amendment calls it “free exercise.” Is that too hard for you to understand?

            Christians pay for the schools, yet Christian prayers are not permitted. All across the fruited plain, Islam is being invited into the schools with Halal meals and prayer rooms. Is it just me, or is there no separation between Islam and state? We could ask Hussein Obama, but then again we know where he kneels on the issue.

          • Random dude

            Lol called it. I love afchief, in his world nonchristians and the constitution don’t matter.

          • afchief

            Show where the “separation of church and state” is in the Constitution?

            You can’t!!!!!!

          • gizmo23

            Show where Jesus is mentioned in the Constitution.

          • afchief

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

          • Random dude

            Show me the part of the constitution that says decisions made by the Supreme Court don’t matter.

          • afchief

            The power of the Court to implement its decisions is limited. For example, in the famous 1954 case Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, the justices ruled that racial segregation (separate but equal) in public places is unconstitutional. But, it took many years for school districts to desegregate.

            The Court has no means (such as an army) to force implementation. Instead, it must count on the executive and legislative branches to back its decisions. In the Civil Rights Movement, the Court led the way, but the other branches had to follow before real change could take place.

          • Random dude

            Yeah that’s what I thought, you can’t. Because it’s not there. Now you’re arguing that other branches don’t need to obey the law.

          • afchief

            Are you really this ignorant of our Constitution and three branches of government? Really? A COURT DECISION IS NOT A LAW!! Do you understand that? Roe v Wade is NOT the law of the land. Roe v Wade was an OPINION handed down by judges. Judges and courts do not make laws, but rather merely render opinions. Did you know that the Supreme Court once rendered the opinion that black men were inferior to whites? Did you know that the Supreme Court once ruled that women had no legal right to vote? Did you know that as recently as 1986 the Supreme Court ruled that there was no right to homosexual sodomy?

            Opinions can change when judges change. The law cannot be changed by a “judge.” If that were the case, our “laws” would be as constantly changing as the “judges” are. If “judges” ruled that sodomy was illegal in 1986, how did sodomy become “legal” today? Did the law change, or did the “opinions” of the “judges” change?

            Get a book and educate yourself!!!

          • Random dude

            Are you really so ignorant that you can’t stay on topic? You still have not pointed out where in the constitution Supreme Court judgments don’t matter. But while we’re at it why don’t you give a quick glance at article 3 of the constitution. Also, the courts interpret existing law. Therefore their interpretations are then enforced.

          • afchief

            Yes, you are showing your ignorance!!! SCOTUS rulings are not judgments. They are “opinions”!!!

            Supreme Court Offers Opinion, Doesn’t Make Law

            Whenever state laws are overturned by the Supreme Court, such decisions are often cited as repudiation against any sort of argument for their legitimacy. While case law is regularly debated, the court’s constitutional power to make such reversals is rarely questioned. Courtly precedents are usually referenced in support of such actions rather than a constitutional basis.

            But the power to offer opinion does not equal the power to make law. While today, most believe that Supreme Court justices carry an aura of infallibility in doing so, that perception was not always so clairvoyant.

            The Constitution grants very little power to the federal judiciary for a reason. Since British history was rife with treacherous kings who packed the royal courts with those who would innately endorse their aims, the founders embraced the separation of powers doctrine espoused by Charles de Montesquieu for a reason. The judges serve for life to separate them from kingly and pragmatic interests, not for assurances of power.

            The Supreme Court was constructed to adjudicate law for specific cases, mostly disputes among states or situations in which the United States is a party. The high court was assuredly never meant to override law or overturn state law, and even the proponents of judicial review in the ratification conventions never explained this power in relation to overturning state law. How can I assert this with certainty? Because the Constitution’s biggest proponents assured us of this. The proof lies in the states, where the Constitution was defended against some of the most compelling attacks by the Brutus Writings, Patrick Henry, and other powerful voices of opposition.

          • Random dude

            If you’re right then why haven’t abortion providers been arrested? Why are marriage contracts being signed? And lastly, why hasn’t your greatness stopped all of this? If you’re so knowledgeable and right about this why is it all still going on?

          • afchief

            Because people are sheeple! They do what they are told. They believe lies. The media and godless tell us these lies and we believe their lies. We then repeat their lies and teach them to others. The lies soon become “truth”, although it is not The Truth.

            Until we are willing to challenge the lies that we’ve been taught and fight back on the proper premise, we will continue running around the tree trying to head off the wolf at the pass.

          • Random dude

            Because there’s NO possible way you’re wrong. And again, if it’s so simple why haven’t YOU taken this to court, why weren’t YOU the one arguing to the Supreme Court or even to congress? Why aren’t the attorneys and politicians against same sex marriage saying that Supreme Court rulings don’t matter? It’s just easier to hind behind the claims of sheeple than it is to actually get a law degree.

          • afchief

            You really are hard of hearing!!!! The SCOTUS opinions change NOTHING!!!! We just think they do. If Americans want America changed, they have agreed, through the Constitution, that the process requires that the changes be done by their elected representatives. If Americans wish to change that process and give up their rights, they can amend the Constitution, as defined in the Constitution.

            Given that the Constitution has not been amended, it’s clear that any Supreme Court decision that changes America is unconstitutional and an exercise in judicial tyranny.

            If the people’s representatives pass a law and the Supreme Court hears a case that simply ensures that the law is followed as intended by the people’s representatives, the Supreme Court’s decision will not, cannot, change America. Rather, it would be the law passed by Congress that is changing America.

            Only by acting in opposition to the Constitution and providing judgments not in keeping with the intent of the people’s representatives can the Supreme Court “change America.”

            The people’s representatives have never passed a law legalizing abortion for any reason through all nine months of pregnancy, nor have they passed a law that legalized gay marriage. If they had, then there would be laws, not Supreme Court rulings, that “changed America” on these issues.

          • Random dude

            Im still waiting to see where in the United States constitution it says that the Supreme Court does nothing. You haven’t provided any reference.

          • afchief

            What does legislate mean to you? Who are the legislators? I’ll give you 3 guesses!!!! Are you really this ignorant????? The SCOTUS renders “OPINIONS”!!!!! Is that too hard for you to understand???? Opinions can change when judges change. The law cannot be changed by a “judge.” If that were the case, our “laws” would be as constantly changing as the “judges” are.

            If “judges” ruled that sodomy was illegal in 1986, how did sodomy become “legal” today? Did the law change, or did the “opinions” of the “judges” change?

            The Constitution grants very little power to the federal judiciary for a Opinions can change when judges change. The law cannot be changed by a “judge.” If that were the case, our “laws” would be as constantly changing as the “judges” are.

            Since British history was rife with treacherous kings who packed the royal courts with those who would innately endorse their aims, the founders embraced the separation of powers doctrine espoused by Charles de Montesquieu for a reason. The judges serve for life to separate them from kingly and pragmatic interests, not for assurances of power.

            The Supreme Court was constructed to adjudicate law for specific cases, mostly disputes among states or situations in which the United States is a party. The high court was assuredly never meant to override law or overturn state law, and even the proponents of judicial review in the ratification conventions never explained this power in relation to overturning state law. How can I assert this with certainty? Because the Constitution’s biggest proponents assured us of this. The proof lies in the states, where the Constitution was defended against some of the most compelling attacks by the Brutus Writings, Patrick Henry, and other powerful voices of opposition.

          • Random dude

            I can keep waiting, show me where in the constitution it states that the Supreme Court doesn’t matter. You keep calling me ignorant yet you can’t cite a single thing. All of your arguments are “things are the way they are because I say so.”

          • afchief

            I never said the SCOTUS does not matter. I said they cannot legislate from the bench. Congress and the president HAVE to agree to change the law. The SCOTUS cannot do so with an opinion. Article III says nothing about them legislating from the bench. They render opinions, period!!!

            SECTION 1

            The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

            SECTION 2

            The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;–to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;–to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;–to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;– to Controversies between two or more States;–between a State and Citizens of another State;–between Citizens of different States;–between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

            In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

            The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment; shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

            SECTION 3

            Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

            The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

          • Random dude

            You did it, you finally found our constitution. Now take a gander at Marbury V Maddison and judicial review.

          • afchief

            Like I said the SCOTUS cannot make or change any laws from the bench. NONE!

          • Random dude

            It’s not making laws, it’s interpreting existing laws and how to apply them.

          • Random dude

            Notice how it doesn’t say anything about its decisions being meaningless? Section two grants its power, and while it doesn’t create laws it interprets existing laws and how to apply them. Another important note is that the constitution overrides acts of congress, and that is how the Supreme Court can deem things like the defense of marriage act unconstitutional.

          • afchief

            The SCOTUS can say that DOMA is unconstitutional (which it’s not) but it takes congress to remove the law. Until Congress removed it from the books, it was still the law. Congress could have chosen not to remove it.

            AND the SCOTUS declared in 2012 the federal government has no right to declare what is and what is not marriage. But in 2015 the SCOTUS declared all states marriages void because it has the jurisdiction to declare what is and what is not marriage.

            It’s called JUDICIAL TYRANNY!!!!

          • Random dude

            Doesn’t change the fact that it’s unenforceable. And if you have a problem with judicial tyranny why haven’t you gotten to work on getting a new amendment passed? But in summation case law does matter, and that’s why what this teacher was doing is wrong. He’s more than welcome to go preach on the job at a private school.

          • afchief

            Nope! The SCOTUS has NO right to decide what is and is NOT marriage. NONE!!! The states took care of that in accordance with the 10th amendment.

            The right to pray or speak about God is unalienable. The First Amendment calls it “free exercise.” The God-haters (you) like to point us to the “establishment clause”, but “establishment” and “free exercise” are connected by “or”.

            THEY GO TOGETHER!!!!

          • Random dude

            You can rant and rave all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong. Again, if you don’t like it you can try to get a new amendment passed that allows government employed workers to push their religion on the job. But until then, this teacher broke the law.

          • afchief

            Nope! I know the law and I KNOW I’m right. What part of the 1st amendment don’t you understand????

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

            SHE BROKE NO LAW!!!!

          • Random dude

            McCollum v. Board of Education Dist. 71
            Engel v. Vitale
            Abington School District v. Schempp
            Lemon v. Kurtzman
            These court cases say otherwise.

          • afchief

            NOPE! Since the 1947 Everson v Board of Education opinion, we have been sold a lie. Religious liberty is absolute in America. If the government can inhibit the mention of God, then government has inserted itself ABOVE God. That has been the Christ-haters plan all along. They have used that lie to run Christianity out of the Public Square.

            here is no separation between the church and state. Prayer in schools and Bible reading in schools are not unlawful. The posting of the 10 Commandments violates no law. Abortion has never been made legal. Homosexual sodomy is still a crime. Homosexual marriage can never be legal because it violates all Natural and Christian laws.

            So take your godless ways and leave!!!!

          • Random dude

            Again rant and rave all you want, the courts have spoken and you are wrong. And once again, you can try to get an amendment passed that makes it legal.

          • afchief

            The courts can speak ALL they want!!! The “Supreme” Court does not make laws, it simply offers opinions on whether or not a “law” meets Constitutional muster. If the law violates the Constitution, then the law is remanded back to the Legislative branch so that the law can be re-written to fall in line with the Constitution. This is how our government is supposed to create laws.

          • Random dude

            And that is how acts of congress work, so unless congress can pass an amendment to the constitution permitting government paid employees to preach on the job then you’re just going to have to deal with the fact that those cases and this teacher violated the first amendment.

          • afchief

            Show me where in the 1st amendment she violated the law?

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

            You or any government agency cannot stop the “free exercise thereof”!!!!!

          • Random dude

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”. Also, the court cases referenced above.

          • afchief

            Wrong! Again, let’s try and educated brain dead liberals. I know it is hard. Their cranium size is extremely small, but here goes; The First Amendment’s clause prohibiting an establishment of religion applied to the federal government, not the states. Does that register? It clearly says “Congress [not the states] shall make no law…” It was publicly understood and acknowledged that the Constitution was intended to govern the federal government itself, not the people. The states were to be left alone to govern themselves as they saw fit in their pursuit of happiness.

            Why didn’t the First Amendment apply to the states? Many of them already had establishments of religion. At the time of the War for Independence, Massachusetts had a state church, Puritanism (or Calvinism). Connecticut’s official religion was Congregationalism. Rhode Island’s established church was Baptist. Pennsylvania’s was Quakerism. Maryland’s was Roman Catholicism. Virginia’s was the Anglican Church of England (which, after the war, became the Episcopal Church of America).

            In fact, most of the thirteen states at one time had their own official churches/establishments of religion and five of the thirteen had their own at the time the First Amendment was ratified. When James Madison was writing the Constitution, no mention of a guarantee of religious liberty was at first included because he feared that states such as Massachusetts and Virginia, with their strong state churches, would otherwise not accept the Constitution. However, he was persuaded to include the “no religious test” clause of Article VI. The Bill of Rights, Amendment I, which he later supported, provided the final corrective to the situation. The last of the state religions was disestablished in 1833. They were disestablished not by the Supreme Court but by the states’ own free will. The states voluntarily gave up their establishments of religion in the name of freedom of conscience.

            As yet another proof that our Founders recognized God as the ultimate authority for our government and our society, consider the symbolism of the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States. It shows a 13-step pyramid representing the 13 original states, placed under what the designer described as “the Eye of Providence.” The Latin words Annuit Coeptis, meaning “He [God] has favored our undertakings,” float above the scene. The seal was approved after six years of deliberation over various designs. Secretary of Congress Charles Thomson reported to the Congress that “The Eye over & the Motto allude to the many signal interpositions of providence in favour of the American cause.”

            If the doctrine of separation of church and state had been intended by the Founders to keep God and religion out of government, does it seem reasonable that such direct references to deity would have been approved for the official signature of our nation? Of course not!

            Thomas Jefferson saw that clearly when he wrote in Notes on the State of Virginia, “And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?” Likewise James Madison: “The belief in God All Powerful wise and good, is so essential to the moral order of the World and to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many sources…” Benjamin Franklin agreed: “Man will ultimately be governed by God or by tyrants.”

            All were implicitly echoing the statement by William Penn, founder of Pennsylvania, a century earlier: “Unless we are governed by God, we will be governed by tyrants.”

            The Declaration of Independence makes clear that God, not government, is the source of our freedom, our sovereignty, our equality, our rights, our justice and our human dignity. They are preexisting in us, before there ever was any government. So the Constitution does not grant any of that; it simply guarantees them for us and prevents government from interfering with it.

            Therefore it is perfectly legal, constitutional and (in the view of our Founders and Framers) right for citizens to publicly express their religion via prayers and symbols such as the cross, menorah, and others. That includes the military; one of George Washington’s first acts when he became Commander of the Continental Army in 1775 was to create the Chaplain Corps for the benefit of his citizen-soldiers. At the same time, Congress itself often held church services in the Capitol and also has had a chaplain since 1774

          • Random dude

            Lol now you’re claiming the first amendment doesn’t apply to the states? You really will do whatever you can to convince yourself that you’re being persecuted and that your religion gets to do whatever it wants. Also, the supremacy clause makes it pretty clear that federal law will trump state law.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            That’s because in his mind, that’s what makes something true 🙂

          • wandakate

            This reminds me so much of ALL of our holidays that people celebrate. They started out pagan, were picked up and promoted by the Emperor Constantine and then they were ALL made into laws by decree of death to the people of that day and age that wouldn’t observe them. The worship of the Sun god and all of the pagan/heathen customs were ALL passed down to ALL of us. So, today ALL of our holidays Easter, Halloween, Christmas are all from the pagans and the heathens. They are ALL man made holidays, that have become nothing more than CUSTOMS, TRADITIONS, WORLDLY celebrations.
            You are saying that people believe LIES, and yes they do. They’ve been living and believing lies and traditions for ages since the life and times of Constantine which was I believe back around the year 324.
            We don’t even worship on the right day. Got that all wrong as well.
            Unfortunately there is no hope for any of this, we will continue as you say running around the tree trying to head off the wolf at the pass…
            Sheeple, yes that’s the name, Bill Gates uses it, Henry Kissinger uses it, and they will use it with the agenda of the new world order, when the sheeple are being hauled off to the new fema camps.
            Just keep following the crowds, and see what happens to you.

          • afchief

            Very well said!

          • wandakate

            OUR greatness assuming you’re speaking about GOD, hasn’t stopped it b/c we have put GOD on the back burner for now. Satan is the god of this evil world and is for now running the show. Evil and all this come form the evil one (satan).
            GOD is ultimately in charge, but is allowing us to have satan as our earthly god right now, but in the end satan loses.
            We have a free choice to chose what we want, we have a free choice to sin, to disobey ALL of GOD’s laws (the 10 commandments). We make our own bed, and we shall reap what we sow. We seal our own fate.
            GOD doesn’t send anybody to hell, we send ourselves there by our disobedience and our unfaithfulness to HIM the ALMIGHTY CREATOR of heaven and earth.
            This will ALL continue to go on until JESUS appears to take possession of this evil world away from satan.
            You can read it if you wish Rev. 11:15-19.

          • wandakate

            No wonder Henry Kissinger and Bill Gates has said that people are so dumbed down its pathetic. Henry even said we must get rid of all these useless eaters. It’s all part of the depopulation agenda, or part of the NWO, or the OWG…
            Education is the KEY that unlocks the door to everything…
            Without that we are only to be called dumbed down useless eaters…The powers that be, and the elite know, don’t they?

          • Brad Thompson FT

            Separation of church was only mentioned once in the Federalist papers and it referred to the State keeping its nose out of church however, the founding intended for this country to be run by Godly men. When it is run by ungodly men, well, you see the ness this country is in right now. Arguing with a liberal is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. Eventually you figure out the pig likes it.

          • afchief

            Your right! Ephesians 6:12!!!

          • Random dude

            If the country was intended to be run by godley men, why isn’t God in the constitution? And why is it illegal to have religious requirements for office? And that mess you’re speaking of, are you referring to all the religious based violence of late? Or perhaps the record number of people in prison, who are mostly comprised of godly men?

          • wandakate

            Does the constitution separate church and state? Don’t you think maybe that was all like a new law, a new man-made law and maybe we were just fooled into believing it?
            If it’s there please show me where it is, thanks…

          • Random dude

            If you bothered to read afchief and I’s entire conversation you’d read that church and state are separated by the first amendment and subsequent supreme court cases, which have also been listed below.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Oh, I forgot. When a Constitutional Amendment requires interpretation, the correct interpretation is yours. We are the United States of afchief.

          • afchief

            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

            Show where congress established a law in this case?

            Only in America, with our un-Godly, un-righteous courts, could such a charade have been foisted upon us. There is no separation between the church and the state. They just tell us that there is and then they use that to dredge our children through the cesspool of secular humanism.

            Free exercise means free exercise.

          • Ripples

            Then follow what Afchief says. Do not may hue and cry.

          • wandakate

            I heard there is a prayer mat in the White House, is that true?
            Yes, the public schools (some of them) are being indoctrinated by all these issues. Satan has infiltrated our school system, our government, our communities, towns, states, and our country as well. Satan is alive and well on planet earth and his influence is deep, very deep indeed.
            Our nation as a whole is going to hell in a handbasket and pray is more needed now that ever before in my lifetime.
            I feel some dark and gloomy days are ahead of us.

          • afchief

            You speak from wisdom!!!

          • wandakate

            Again I appreciate your comment, WISDOM comes from above. GOD answers prayers, does He not? That is the second time today that I’ve been told that and it’s just a blessing to me for sure, but giving Him all the credit for everything.
            Wisdom is from above, and patience is a virtue. Knowledge follows wisdom and common sense is probably the leader, for without it, it’s difficult. Some people have a lot of college education and not an ounce of common sense.
            I had a son-in-law that way, he is now a major in the US ARMY, but he has not one iota of common sense.
            Book knowledge, no common sense and he’s not a Christian either.
            I believe the LORD takes care of His own. I am blessed and thankful for what He has bestowed on me, and for my talents at writing books, poems, music and playing the piano. I share “ALL” that He has so graciously give to me, and I hope he’s happy with me for doing that. Making use of our abilities and talents is a good thing. They are given to us, so that we may share them with others. Bless you…

        • Ambulance Chaser

          No, I don’t need you to interpret the First Amendment. It has already been done, by the Supreme Court in Everson v. Board of Education. And their interpretation is binding, not yours.

          • afchief

            Nope! That is a boldface lie!!! Religious liberty is absolute in America. If the government can inhibit the mention of God, then government has inserted itself ABOVE God. That has been the Christ-haters (you) plan all along. They have used that lie to run Christianity out of the Public Square.

            There is no separation between the church and state. Prayer in schools and Bible reading in schools are not unlawful. The posting of the 10 Commandments violates no law. Abortion has never been made legal. Homosexual sodomy is still a crime. Homosexual marriage can never be legal because it violates all Natural and Christian laws.

            Courts cannot make law. They merely offer opinions. Christian values have been removed from America by tyrannical courts. Free exercise of prayer is UNALIENABLE!

          • Random dude

            Wow, this kind of looks like the ramblings of an extremist.

          • afchief

            Yep! The truth always offends!!! Does it not?

          • Random dude

            I’m just worried about the safety of those near you, this country has a bit of a religious extremist problem at the moment.

          • afchief

            It’s liberals like you that have NO understanding of our laws that are lying and deceiving others. Not one of our key “cultural” issues has ever been changed by a vote of the people or by the legislative branch. Abortion, marriage, prayer in schools, sodomy laws, free speech…they’ve all been “changed” by “court opinions.”

            Courts offer opinions. Legislatures and we the people make the laws. Supreme Court decisions are not laws—they simply tell us that they are.

            Defy them! Nullify them! Tell the Supreme Court to go pound sand! And go get a book and educate yourself!!!!

          • wandakate

            I just told him that education is the key to knowledge and knowledge is the key to wisdom and thus the truth of the word and when he knows the truth, the truth will set him free. And when you are free, you are free indeed. Give me liberty or give me death. Live free or die.

          • afchief

            So true wandakate! So true!

          • wandakate

            Thank you, appreciate that. You know the TRUTH will set you free, and so many DO NOT want the truth. They are contented settling for the lies they are fed by the churches and the media as well. Solomon asked for wisdom to understand the things that GOD had in store for him, and I did the same.
            He provide me a measure of it, with some knowledge and common sense along with faith, hope, and trust.
            I am blessed beyond measure. Wisdom comes from above. I have done nothing on my own.
            GOD received ALL glory, praise and honor even in the manuscripts I have written and am about to have the first one published, I am crediting GOD for it, dedicated to JESUS CHRIST the LORD. I can do ALL things through Him who gives me strength. amen…

          • Ripples

            I wonder if you were born in America. Early Americans who believed in God knelt beside the shores and prayed before entering America. America was built on Christian Faith. If you are ignorant and fool your dollar in your pocket is a proof. Is your dollar an Extremist. If so then you are living in fools paradise. What is Thanksgiving day. To whom they want to thank on this day to you or to someone who Protected, helped, lead thus far. You may be prodigal son in your family.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Yes, it’s called ISIS, fool.
            The only thing you need to worry about when it comes to Christianity is God’s wrath, not His people. We are His children and you will have to account for how you treated us and especially Jesus, the TRUTH.
            ~It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.~ Hebrews 10:31
            If you are worried about the safety of people near Christians who are standing up for the faith, you have some serious issues. Repent! For the kingdom of God is at hand.

          • Random dude

            I’ll worry about gods wrath when he/she/it decides to end their 2000 year game of hide and seek. Until then I’ll be more concerned with people like Michael Griffin, or Paul Jennings Hill, or Scott Roeder.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Concerning yourself with the world and man instead of the world to come and God will lead you to a terrible place.

          • Random dude

            And empty threats of eternal damnation are meaningless when you can’t prove they’re real.

          • Chrissy Vee

            It’s not a threat. God says it will happen. You can’t say you haven’t been warned when you stand before Him. I am sure I am not the first He has put before you.
            Besides the fact that he reveals Himself to those who believe, life itself proved to me God exists.

          • Random dude

            Lol, that’s great. Zues revealed himself too when I decided to believe.

          • Chrissy Vee

            You have been warned.

          • wandakate

            False gods can’t save anybody, you are unfortunately lost and in need of a SAVIOR. If you don’t believe in something, you will fall for anything.

          • wandakate

            IF you knew anything about the word of GOD then you would understand that the underworld, the world of the abode, the hiding place of satan and his demons are indeed REAL! All people who are not saved and do not believe on the name of JESUS CHRIST will be there with satan, and the demons as well as the antichrist and the false prophet and all sinners… They will “NEVER” come out of there. It’s a one way trip for eternity.
            BUT, unless you believe and read and learn about it then you will not know. Education is the key, knowledge is wisdom and truth is what will set you free.

          • wandakate

            Well I think that concerning ourselves with the conditions of this evil world are a good thing, and of course we are to be concerned for our fellow man as JESUS plainly told us that, we are our brother’s keeper. He said also to love thy neighbor as thyself (that would mean caring about them), and he said to do unto others as you would have them to do unto you, which is our “golden rule”. Therefore I would respectfully have to disagree with your assessment here.
            We “must” first concern ourselves with GOD, and you are right, if we don’t do that we will go to a terrible place called HELL, however we have a free choice.
            Once people know GOD, they will car about the world’s problems and their fellow man.
            Maybe you should give that some thought…be blessed!

          • Chrissy Vee

            I completely agree. I think you may have misunderstood my meaning. I was referring to the fear of man and the fretting over the cares of this world. I love ya for watching my back though. 🙂 God bless you!

          • wandakate

            You’re so welcome and I think we’re suppose to watch each others backs, and especially brothers and sisters of the faith…I would like somebody to do that for me, so I try to do it for others. As in do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
            What goes around comes around, so I think we should watch out for others and treat others the way we ourselves want to be treated by them. We usually don’t go wrong when we put that into practice. Have a good weekend.

          • wandakate

            On mercy…GOD isn’t in hiding. Miracles happen all the time. I was dead from total cardiac arrest back in April of 2001, and I am here to tell about that. I have my testimony, my story.
            GOD is a HE, not a she or an it…There IS NOT game of hide and seek. If you seek Him with all your heart, you will find Him.
            Every breath you are taking right now is coming from above. He gave you breath when you were born, and He has the power to take it away and you will not be here any longer.
            GOD is very much alive and well on planet earth. He is to be seen and felt everywhere.
            He’s like the wind…Do you see the wind? NO, you don’t see it, you may hear it and you may feel it, but you do not see it.
            GOD is like that, we feel Him, we can hear Him, but we don’t see Him, and that is where faith come in and makes up for what we don’t actually visually see. Faith to believe in a GOD that we can’t see, but yet we still know he’s there. TOO bad you don’t feel HIM, I hope you will one day before it’s too late for you.
            I know GOD, I heard of Him, but Michael, Paul or Scott are strangers to me…Only GOD is of any importance anyway so none of the rest would matter.

          • wandakate

            What we have at the moment is a non-religious extremist problem.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Wow, kind of looks like another brainwashed, dumbed down, lost soul using the word “extremist”, just like the powers that be are relying on to further their NWO agenda.
            …broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat… It is sad really. :/

          • wandakate

            Oh gosh, who wants the truth anymore? They’re not under the law, they’re under grace. JESUS said,” we are saved by His grace, but we will be judged by our works”.
            I am coming and my rewards are with me, to give to each according to his works shall be.
            Deny me before man, and I will deny you before my FATHER which is in heaven”.
            Yes, the truth always offends, and more so as the day approaches. Our world is basically godless…they worship satan, the god of this evil world. Many do, not all, but too many, so that tells me hell with be full.

          • Ripples

            Should I say you are ignorant and hypocrite. Everyday you use your dollar to pay . If you have guts and stand on your word ……… remove the word “In God We Trust” from the dollar. Show me that you are a man in doing it, if not shut your mouth and do not raise foolish things in public to get yourself attracted.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            A hypocrite? Why? Do I regularly rail against the evils of “In God We Trust” on money? I don’t recall ever saying anything about it.

        • wandakate

          Teacher in question was a HE, not a SHE…Charles was his name.
          There are many of us that will be dead before we stop talking about GOD…plain and simple.

    • gizmo23

      So you don’t like Jews either?

  • The Skeptical Chymist

    How does professing his faith help this teacher to teach his students mathematics? As an agent of the government, he has no right to use his position to advocate for his personal choice of religion. If he can’t keep his mouth shut about his religious beliefs during his time at school, he should take a job at a private, sectarian school.

    • Ripples

      If i go on giving my demo and without any diversion to make my audiences attentive, I need to crack a joke, or say something that makes them to redraw their attention. If the teacher cited something in middle of the class or in the class is any person injured physically for action , or did he commit any crime. If somebody cites any think to keep control of the audience or class etc it is nothing wrong. This shows that a generation is rising with mean mentality having crooked mind and are injured of petty things. Were our fore fathers fools who taught us with Christian ethics. Bible teaches to be honest, kindness, love one another, help one another and protecting human beings. Do you have any book that teaches such ethics and morals. Why are you getting soo disturbed when taught of something good.

      • Random dude

        He did commit a crime, he’s employed by the government and was giving Christianity preferential treatment. If he wants to infuse religion and math he can go to a private school.You’re ethics and those of your religion have nothing to do with this.

        • Chrissy Vee

          Punch “teaching Islam in public schools” into your browser and tell me how ethical it is and how that’s not religious preferential treatment in a classroom. What about all the homosexual/transgender propaganda being taught to (or should I say forced upon) our children in public schools? Do you think that is ethical?
          All of this hubbub and nonsense is practiced by the secular world to obliterate anything Christian in America. We are the ONLY group of people that, it is smiled upon and encouraged to be intolerant of, and to punish us for living our faith. Thankfully, this is written in His Word and prophesied for these times and we know what the final outcome will be. Praise Jesus!
          You, however, are just another lost, blind bully in the crowd. So many of you but, according to the Bible, Hell is never full. You can escape that route if you repent. If you choose not to, my advice to you… do not take the mark!

          • Random dude

            You know, if you have actual evidence that teachers are preaching Islam as true you should bring it to the attention of the principal and superintendent. And if that doesn’t work the ACLU and FFRF would be more than willing to help end illegal proselytizing in school.

          • Chrissy Vee

            The proof is out there. You obviously have a computer. Just a few words and a click… There are many articles. Do you not understand what is happening around you? Those organizations will not help because this is where our country is headed. There really, truly is an agenda. If you do not see this, I don’t know what to say.

          • Random dude

            Well since I’m not seeing any instances of Islam taught as fact, and taught among other religions. I don’t see any agenda.

          • Chrissy Vee

            It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t see. Bonne chance.

  • Cady555

    According to the Bible and most employee handbooks, employees are supposed to follow the directions from their employers.

    The employer – the taxpayer funded school district – hired this individual to teach math. They are not paying him to promote his personal views. They are not paying him to try to convince students to abandon the religious teaching they get at home to adopt his religious beliefs.

    The Bible specifically requires that people obey those in authority over them. “Slaves obey your masters” has no caveats for christian masters only.

    Using class time to promote personal religious beliefs is unethical.

    • Chrissy Vee

      So you must feel the same way about the fact that public schools are starting to indoctrinate kids with Islamic lessons and the cult of LGBTQ propaganda right?
      Also, here is another part of the Bible you may have forgotten…
      ~And when they had brought them, they set them before the council: and the high priest asked them,
      Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.
      Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.~ Acts 5:27-29
      From this, it is clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, we are bound to obey the law of the land. As soon as the law of the land contradicts God’s command, we are to disobey the law of the land and obey God’s law. Even if it means fines, jail time or loss of a job, in the end, His followers will be greatly rewarded for standing up for the faith! Praise Jesus! o/ ♥