Catholic Newspaper Names Plaintiffs in Supreme Court ‘Gay Marriage’ Case ‘Persons of the Year’

Bourke Delon-compressedKANSAS CITY, Mo. — A prominent newspaper for Roman Catholics led by independent laymen has named two of the plaintiffs in the U.S. Supreme Court’s “gay marriage” case that was ruled upon in 2015 as being among their “persons of the year.”

“For their historic roles as plaintiffs in Obergefell v. Hodges and for their faithful public witness as gay Catholics, we name Greg Bourke and Michael DeLe­on NCR’s persons of the year for 2015,” writes the National Catholic Reporter, based out of Kansas City, Missouri, in an editorial published on Monday.

The two men, 58 and 57, have been in a relationship for 33 years and have attended Our Lady of Lourdes Parish in St. Matthews, Kentucky for 28 of those years. They are raising two teenage children together, and told reporters this week that they will not leave their congregation because “you don’t change anything by leaving something.”

After the state of Kentucky did not recognize their “marriage” after they traveled to Canada in 2004 for a ceremony, they filed suit to challenge Kentucky’s constitutional amendment that was passed that same year recognizing marriage as being solely between a man and a woman. Their complaint was among those that was accepted by the U.S. Supreme Court.

In addition to lauding Bourke and DeLeon for their roles in the court case, the piece in the National Catholic Reporter advocates for greater acceptance of homosexuals within the Roman Catholic religion and in society in general.

“Changing the law was a one-time event. Change comes to peoples and communities slowly,” the article states. “As ordi­nary people — and one hopes Catholic bishops — come to know more people in same-sex marriages, hearts and minds will change. Acceptance will re­place fear.”

The editors further note that Bourke not allowed to lead his local Boy Scout troop this summer after his local parish decided to retain its ban on homosexual leaders following the Boy Scouts’ decision to change its leadership policy.

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“NCR is already on record advocating for church personnel policies that ensure that employees can en­ter into legal, civil marriages without fear of losing their jobs,” the article states. “Today, we address a more fundamental issue: How will we as a church live with our gay, lesbian and transgender brothers and sisters? We are past the time of ‘love the sinner’ platitudes.”

The National Catholic Reporter outlines its liberal leanings on the “mission and values” page of its website, stating that it is “the only significant alternative Catholic voice that provides avenues for expression of diverse perspectives, promoting tolerance and respect for differing ideas.”

“NCR is a religious news source with worldly interests, and though a large amount of its reporting deals with issues of the Catholic church, an equal amount of its coverage is a marriage of the religious, political and social forces shaping public policies and institutions,” it writes. “We are concerned for all people and we are committed to shaping a world that recognizes the dignity of every human being, regardless of religious belief, gender, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or other characteristics.”

The publication further claims that it balances “integrity and sensitivity, keeping an editorial vision that is both prophetic and reconciling — discerning the work of God’s Spirit and also aware of human limitations.”


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  • Reason2012

    To name willful sinners against God “persons of the year” only proves that false religion is not really following God.

    Adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

    Homosexual behavior is most literally pointed out as a sin, and God has not changed on that regard. But if a person has those inclinations but does not act upon them, does not dwell in lust upon others, but is instead struggling against them to avoid them, then it’s not a sin. It’s just like sinful inclinations of any kind: it’s acting upon it when it becomes a sin.

    And this is what God says about sin and specifically the behavior of homosexuality:

    Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [s odomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

    1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

    Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

    Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

    Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

    Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

    The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

    Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

    God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

    Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

    Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

    Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

    Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, m urder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

    The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

    Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of S odom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

    And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be_raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows_rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

    And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

    And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

    These two messengers were sent to destroy that place before the event where they tried to_rape these messengers.

    Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

    Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

    Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

    Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

    Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a s odomite of the sons of Israel.”

    1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the s odomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

    1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the s odomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

    2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the s odomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

    Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister S odom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

    And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

    Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

    Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband.

    And only two people of opposite gender can become “one flesh”.

    Live forever, people – not temporarily only to be cast out for living for the things of this world. And avoid false religions like catholicism that promotes homosexual behavior as fine with God and promotes two men as a marriage as fine with God.

    May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

    • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

      Catholicism does not “promote” homosexual behavior, never has, and never will. See my post above and respond to that post.

      • Reason2012

        So this catholic newspaper is not really catholic labeling those into open homosexual behavior and a sham same-gender marriage “persons of the year”?

        • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

          No, they are not an approved Catholic publication. The National Catholic Register is, and they are try to ride on their wide distribution by deceptively using the same initials. Ignore anything they publish. Christian news dot net does not vet their sources but looks for Catholic scandal wherever they can, reputable or not.

          • Reason2012

            Glad to hear they rebuke same gender marriage. Now as soon as the catholic denomination stops promoting works (cathecisms) to earn salvation, infant baptism for salvation, calling priests their “fathers”, creating graven images of things in heaven and on the earth, becoming a saint only after you’re dead by vote of catholic leaders and more they might get on track.

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            Those are all misconceptions but I’m not going to discuss Catholic apologetics on this site. It attracts too many flies. I have a blog at verbus dot dreamhosters dot com where I would be happy to go into these one at a time with you. Just tell me which one you want to address first and I’ll post about it.

            Or you can check out Dave Armstrong’s blog at Patheos. You’re a reasonable person and I enjoy rational discussions.

          • Reason2012

            I’ve debated dozens on it and they can never refute the Bible making it clear how numerous ways the catholic doctrines violate God’s Word. Many well intentioned people are quite deceived by these catholic doctrines. Debating 1 on 1 deprives countless others from seeing God’s truth on this matter, so the only reason I point it out now is so others can also see the truth and decide for themselves why a denomination teaches things that are clearly against God’s Word.

            In the end it’s God we’ll have to convince His Word was wrong on these topics.

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            I agree that one-on-one discussions don’t benefit others. But it’s pretty hard to have a discussion here without spectators jumping on the field. I no longer have the patience to discuss my faith with people who confuse cutting and pasting proof texts with critical thinking. I’ve been where you are, and I understand your exegesis. It would be nice if Evangelicals would make an equal effort to find common ground with us (and there is plenty), but apparently confrontation is the only acceptable approach for them.

            In the end, (and there will be one) we will all be like Him for we shall see Him as He is. I know I’ll be there and I’m sure you will be too. And we’ll both stand accused. And we will both find redemption through the Blood of Jesus Christ. If we can’t be brothers in this life then so be it. We have all eternity to change that.

          • Reason2012

            Many have been where you are and have come out of catholicism, realizing they are teaching things that keeps people blind to God’s truth: thinking they’re saved because they were baptised as a child, or because the priest tells them “we’re all God’s children”, or because they eat wafers they’ve been told are the literal blood and body of Christ, making more sacrifices and so on.

            It’s not common ground with each other we need to make – it’s with God’s Word. Many false doctrines have been promoted in the name of “unity” – but we are not to have “unity” at the expense of God’s Word. We should defend God’s Word, not a denomination, and I will not defend any denomination has “God’s truth” but instead will defend His Word.

            If we’re both saved, we are brothers – but I will not align with the false teachings of catholicism that are deceiving many and if we teach others that’s God’s truth we’d be answering to Him for it as well. I would think again.

            Thank you for posting.

          • Becky

            Well said.

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            I was saved when I was Protestant. My salvation rests entirely on Jesus’ atoning death on the Cross. In that we are of like mind. I’m not asking anyone to align themselves with any doctrine they believe to be contrary to God’s Word. I certainly will not. I would just like to see us united in the common ground of our salvation through Christ. God is a just God who will separate the wheat from the tares at the appropriate time. In the meantime, knowing that we see in part and we know in part, we should love one another as best we can and put aside all this rancor. There is nothing Satan loves more than to see the body of Christ divided.

            Catholics accept Protestants as brothers in Christ. We aren’t in full communion and likely will never be in in this life (although Luther himself believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist). But we still respect the Protestant point of view. If Evangelicals could do the same I have no doubt that many more souls would be saved as a result. Alas, all I see is greater disunity, even among Protestants.

            Thank you as well.

          • Reason2012

            It’s great that you believe only in Jesus’ shed blood on the cross and resurrection to be saved – are you sure from the heart you do since you defend a denomination (catholicism) that does NOT believe this? It makes no sense for a person to be saved to stay in a denomination that teaches

            / Infant baptism saves
            / Priest turns wafers and wine literally into the body and blood of Christ that we must eat to be saved and/or maintain your salvation
            / The pope is the vicar of Christ – the One acting in place of Christ
            / Priests forgive sins and are a mediator between God and man – go confess to THEM not to God through Christ
            / Pray to dead saints for intercession
            / Mary is another intercessor and is worshiped with her own mass

            / Mary was immaculately conceived without original sin like Christ
            / Priests perform more sacrifices at mass and get everyone to chant “May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands…”, which is contrary to Christ being the final sacrifice
            / Peter was the rock that God would build His church on, not Christ

            Those are core man-centered salvation doctrines that fly in the face of salvation through the shed blood of Christ alone, forgiveness through Christ alone, Christ the final sacrifice, not the first of countless more sacrifices. Christ the rock that the gates of_hell will not prevail against. A person believing these catholic doctrines is NOT trusting ONLY on the shed blood of Christ for the remission of sins.

            Satan loves it when we promote such false teachings as it keeps many that may in fact be saved from growing, from teaching others the truth of God/Christ, and from such teachings and teachers we are to separate ourselves. It also keeps others from being saved at all, believing these false teachings.

            If you believe salvation from the shed blood of Christ alone, then you need to rebuke these anti-Christ teachings of the catholic denomination – it makes NO sense NOT to. God will judge false teachers of these anti-Christ doctrines of theirs. We need to teach His truth, not unity at the expense of it.

            Please pray about these things!

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            I post a comment urging greater harmony within the body of Christ and you reply with divisiveness. These tired an easily refuted calumnies against Catholicism bespeak an arrogance that could not be less Christ-like. If you had started your post by first finding common ground, I might have engaged in a civil dialog.

            Are you trying to win me back to your doctrine or are you just trying to puff yourself up by “winning” an argument? If so, let me congratulate you. You have won by default.

          • Reason2012

            // I post a comment urging greater harmony within the body of Christ and you reply with divisiveness. //

            So you would rather we teach a lie for God’s Word so we can say we have harmony? No, we don’t seek harmony at the expense of teaching false doctrines of salvation. You said it yourself: saved only by trusting in the shed blood of Christ. And I’m pointing out catholic doctrines teach otherwise (among other things). So in effect, we AGREE about savlation. But you get upset because I’m pointing out catholic doctrine says otherwise?

            catholic dot org says this about salvation:

            “”Are you saved?” Constantly. We are constantly being saved by the incarnation, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Why? Because salvation is dynamic, ongoing. It’s a past, present, and future reality.”

            See they think you’re being saved over and over again. Most likely referring to each mass where the priest offers up yet another sacrifice and the people are commanded to chant “May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands…”

            They do not teach that belief in the shed blood of Christ as the only means to get saved saves you – they teach that you must be saved over and over again, as you just saw.

            // These tired an easily refuted calumnies against Catholicism //

            You said yourself: you’re saved by trusting in the shed blood of Christ, and the catholic doctrine teaches otherwise.

            // bespeak an arrogance that could not be less Christ-like. //

            So now you make personal attacks (I’m arrogant and as un Christ-like as anyone could get – I couldn’t possibly get less Christ-like) when I was referring to false teaching of the catholic doctrines. All because I point out the doctrines of a denomination are wrong. 🙁

            // If you had started your post by first finding common ground, I might have engaged in a civil dialog. //

            I already told you what common ground is: we align with what God says. You seem to have gotten offended and now make personal attacks on me. We don’t make false doctrine our “common ground” so that we can say we have unity.

            // Are you trying to win me back to your doctrine //

            Being saved by the shed blood of Christ is “my” doctrine? Did you not say you were trusting in that as well? That’s God’s doctrine, not my doctrine, not your doctrine, not a denomination’s doctrine. Knowing what you know, you should be helping me inform catholics about God’s doctrine so they can come to God’s truth.

            And I’m nothing – I can’t convince anyone of anything – I can only point out God’s truth and leave it between each person and God.

            // or are you just trying to puff yourself up by “winning” an argument? //

            Teaching God’s truth is puffing oneself up or “winning” an argument? Not how I see it – Christians are constantly hated for bringing that up.

            // If so, let me congratulate you. You have won by default. //

            The only ones that “win” or those who come to Christ. We “lose” when we defend man’s doctrines instead of God’s, let alone for the sake of “unity”.

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            Once again, I did not post on this site to discuss the whole of Catholic theology. There are plenty of other places on the net where you can make your case. Or, if you are genuinely concerned with the state of my soul, you (or anyone else) may email me at sclarkaz at gmail dot com and we can resume it there.

            The only reason I posted in this contentious discussion board was to point out that Heather Clark was trolling around for Catholic scandal and had to use a disreputable source to make a false accusation.

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            And I do apologize for the personal attack. I did so out of anger and was if fact anything but Christ-like. I am a sinner saved by grace and my flesh wars constantly against my spirit (as did Paul’s).

            I’ll bring this up at my next confession. (That was a joke.)

          • Reason2012

            No need to apologize.

            // I’ll bring this up at my next confession. (That was a joke.) //

            It’s no joke that people are deceived into thinking they need to confess their sins to the priest and the priest is the mediator, not Christ. You can be a great witness to others to come out of catholicism and instead come to Christ. Many will become very mad at you if you even point out the details, but it’s not our job to convince them – we can only point it out and leave it between them and God – we don’t “convince” people to accept the truth, we only present it.

            Take care.

          • Josey

            Beautifully said 🙂

        • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

          From the article itself:

          The president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Archbishop
          Joseph Kurtz of Louisville, Ky., called the decision “a tragic error.”
          Bishop Richard Malone of Buffalo, N.Y., declared himself “bitterly
          disappointed.”,

          The USCC represents official Catholic doctrine.

        • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

          I dug in a little deeper and it appears to be a publication produced by or sympathetic to nuns. As a rule, nuns are pretty far to the left and do not adhere strictly to Catholic teaching. They have been butting heads with the Vatican for decades. Pope Francis is attempting detente with them, but that will in no way alter Catholic doctrine regarding same-sex marriage.

      • Oboehner

        They promote works for salvation, bowing to and kissing graven images, mary worship, praying to dead people, evolutionism, and the list goes on. Now you want us to ignore one of your own publications?

        • gizmo23

          The kkk website claims it speaks for Christians. Now you want us to ignore one of your own publications?

          • Oboehner

            My publications? Be more specific as to just what you are talking about, I’m not catholic, nor a KKK member, nor a catholic KKK member.

  • acontraryview

    “A prominent Roman Catholic newspaper”

    So, just for clarity (in other words, “truth”) NCR is NOT a Roman Catholic newspaper. NCR is an independent organization that has no affiliation with the Roman Catholic Church.

  • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

    This publication does not represent the official teaching of the Roman Catholic Church and as such cannot be the basis for attacking it.

    The Catechism of the RCC clearly state states:

    2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

    The Catholic Church does not recognize same-sex unions and has, in fact, fought to maintain the sanctity of marriage. We Catholics have been your allies in this struggle.

    • Oboehner

      It promotes evolutionism as well as many other un-scriptural concepts, so why not gay marriage?

      • Becky

        Exactly.

  • Emmanuel

    Wow, churches have fallen and now newspapers.

  • chillinout.

    A majority of Catholics (in America anyway) support gay marriage. There’s little doubt the Supreme Court ruling is one of the biggest stories of the year, and except for evangelicals, and all around bitter people, the ruling is viewed very favorably. The two men are absolute heroes to millions, as well as God.

    • Reason2012

      It’s not wise to make “heroes” out of those who openly mock God as it’s Him we’ll have to convince, not others.

      Adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

      Homosexual behavior is most literally pointed out as a sin, and God has not changed on that regard. But if a person has those inclinations but does not act upon them, does not dwell in lust upon others, but is instead struggling against them to avoid them, then it’s not a sin. It’s just like sinful inclinations of any kind: it’s acting upon it when it becomes a sin.

      And this is what God says about sin and specifically the behavior of homosexuality:

      Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

      1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [s odomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

      1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

      Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

      Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

      Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

      Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

      The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

      Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

      God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

      Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

      Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

      Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

      For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

      Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

      For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

      And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, m urder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

      The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

      Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of S odom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

      And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be_raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows_rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

      And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

      And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

      These two messengers were sent to destroy that place before the event where they tried to_rape these messengers.

      Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

      Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

      Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

      Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

      Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a s odomite of the sons of Israel.”

      1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the s odomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

      1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the s odomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

      2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the s odomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

      Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister S odom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

      And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

      Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

      Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband.

      And only two people of opposite gender can become “one flesh”.

      Live forever, people – not temporarily only to be cast out for living for the things of this world.

      May God/Jesus Christ be glorified!

      • Jade

        Leviticus 20:27 Men and women among you who act as mediums or psychics must be put to death by stoning. They are guilty of a capital offense.

        • Happy Critic

          Not a bad idea.

        • Reason2012

          We think demons do not exist – but even today you have people “contacting the dead” for others, or even ouija board, where people knowingly want evil spirits to posses them to move their hands to answer questions. Many bad things have happened to people in our day who give permission to be possessed. So in Israel in OT times it was a capital crime to try doing such things.

          You seem to think if God exists then evil spirits do not. They do.

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      “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.” Rom. 1:26-27

      • Jade

        Exodus 21:7 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.

        • 201821208 :)

          “as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures” 2 Peter 3:16

        • Happy Critic

          Weak.

        • afchief

          We do not live under the OT law. It was written for Jews. Not us!!!

          • gizmo23

            So throw out those Ten Commandments

          • afchief

            Those 10 commandments are incorporated in the two NT commandments.

    • Sage

      Mao always had very high public opinion polls, and still does. How about a little more argumentum ad populum?

    • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

      Fortunately, or unfortunately, Catholic doctrine is not determined by what a “majority of Catholics” believe. It’s not a democracy. This is a good thing because a majority of Catholics don’t even know what their own Church teaches.

      My entire point of commenting on this article was to correct this site’s conflation of a relatively unknown independent periodical’s opinion with the official teaching of the Church. Nothing more.

    • afchief

      Hmmmmm…….sin is not viewed favorably by God! So why should we Christians view sin favorably?

    • Jeff Tilley

      Trust me, you don’t speak for God on this issue. If you want to see what God says about sexual sin, pick up His book and read it.

  • Sage

    Apostate.

  • acontraryview

    The NCR newspaper is not a “Catholic newspaper”. The headline is inaccurate. NCR is a private organization that is not affiliated with the Catholic Church.

    • Nidalap

      If you tout that your paper is “for Catholics”, it’ll very likely be called a Catholic newspaper… 🙂

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