‘I’ll Try to Keep Down My Screams of Agony’: Resurrection-Denying ‘Pastor’ Mocks Being Hellbound

Rigby BackgroundAUSTIN, Texas — A false teacher and minister in Texas who says that He doesn’t believe in the literal resurrection of Christ recently mocked the gospel and those who told him that he is subsequently not a Christian, making fun of having an eternal destiny in Hell.

“Apparently, because I don’t believe in a literal resurrection, I’m not really Christian,” Jim Rigby of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas wrote on social media on Dec. 25. “This unfortunately also means I won’t be going to Heaven with many of you.”

He had explained in a post two days prior, “I don’t literally believe the cadaver of Jesus got up again, but I do believe the resurrection actually happened when the disciples began to see ‘Christ’ in each other, and in everyone else as well.”

Rigby said that he asked one individual who took him to task for his unbelief why “instead of being a one time magic trick, the resurrection might not be understood as a poem about the whole life process.”

He stated that during the discussion, he was told that he does not understand the gospel, and thus provided mockery of the message.

“God loves us very much, but mindless obedience is VERY important to God. So God decided to barbecue us eternally for the mistakes of our ancestors,” Rigby wrote. “But God has a son named Jesus who asked God to abuse Him instead. And so God killed Jesus in our place. And we call this story the ‘good news.'”

“All that matters is that we admit that we are worthless trash, but that Jesus likes us anyway. Oh, and we have to LITERALLY believe Jesus’ corpse got up. … So, anyway, if you believe the ‘good news,’ your physical cadaver will get up too. Hopefully someone will remember where you are buried and come dig you up,” he scoffed.

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Rigby, who supports homosexuality and evolutionary beliefs, proceeded to joke about being in Hell, “me to eternal torment with Gandhi and Socrates; you to an eternity sitting in worship services with televangelists and ethical monsters who happened to believe in the literal resurrection.”

“[P]lease go on and have a good time in heaven without me,” Rigby wrote. “I’ll try to keep down my screams of agony.”

Some supported the Presbyterian minister following his comments.

“Thanks for sharing this. Brilliant. I look forward to being in the wok of woe with all you other fools,” one commenter wrote.

But others expressed sadness at Rigby’s statements.

“What part of this author’s beliefs make him identify as ‘Christian?'” one man wrote. “And seriously, why take eternal suffering so lightly, as if in jest? Hard to separate the sadness, mockery and sarcasm in this bitter piece.”

1 Corinthians 15:12-16 reads, “Now if Christ be preached that He rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ: whom He raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.”

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  • MamaBear

    Why don’t those who deny the Gospel as it is presented in the Bible just leave Christian churches and go join the Unitarians instead of trying to change the churches?

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Money, money, money, money.

      “For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.” — 1 Timothy 6:10

    • roberthenry

      Woman, why are you speaking? Do you not follow the inerrant Word of God?

      “I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting;  in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing,  but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.  Let a woman learn in silence with all submission.  And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.  For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. Nevertheless she will be saved in childbearing if they continue in faith, love, and holiness, with self-control.” 1 Timothy 2:8-15)

      “As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.” I Corinthians 14:33–35

  • WorldGoneCrazy

    ““Apparently, because I don’t believe in a literal resurrection, I’m not really Christian,” Jim Rigby of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas”

    Yep, you are not Christian. Why pretend to be one, silly?!? Here is the Nicene Creed, Jim:

    “I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

    And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

    Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

    And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

    And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.”

    Pretty basic and pretty easy to understand.

    “This unfortunately also means I won’t be going to Heaven with many of you.” — Jim Rigby

    We will miss you Jim. But, God will not force you into Heaven, and His Eternal Presence, against your will.

    • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

      So unless I go to the Catholic Church, I can’t go to heaven? Because this creed say I believe in one holy Catholic and apostolic church and I’m not catholic….

      • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

        No Ms. Patrick, the creed speaks of “catholic” (meaning the whole church), not “Catholic” (big C vs small c) which does refer to the Roman church. The Apostles Creed predates the RCC.

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        I am not Catholic either. “Catholic” is not capitalized in the Nicene Creed. “Catholic” is merely an adjective that refers to the universal Church – the body of believers everywhere, regardless of denomination.

  • FoJC_Forever

    His doctrines are false and he is not a Christian. No resurrection, no Christianity.

    Jesus is alive forevermore. He was one with God before mankind was created. He is the Word of God and is Eternal.

    Follow Jesus, find Salvation.

  • lifesharer

    What i wanted to say they won’t let me . This man has such a perverse understanding of the Bible message, like all he did was listen to atheists ( or maybe he is one) and follow their perverted misinterpretation of the text. Its Classic misrepresentation of EVERY point! If there is no standard of Christianity as to what constitutes a ” christian” then I guess he is right. Fortunately, there IS! And he fails the test. see ya , wouldn’t want to be ya !

  • Brad

    This “pastor” is an excellent example of liberal christianity, which is not christian at all.

    • Shirley Kelly


  • Jim

    ……. the Scriptures tell us that in the ‘last days’ there will be ‘false teachers’ ……. you will know them by their fruits !!!!!!!

  • RayH

    Romans 10:8-11 states

    “But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed”.

    Throughout the New Testament we are taught that there was an actual and physical resurrection. The scripture above says you must believe this in order to be saved and since you don’t you are just a false christian deceiving many.

  • bowie1

    Mr. Rigby does have a Facebook Page so perhaps anyone who wants to express their concerns they can try there, although I’m not hopeful it will succeed without prayer and the power of the Holy Spirit.

  • Enrique Baldwin Del Castillo

    The entire World Couldn’t find the body of JESUSCHRIST but this super smart ???¿¿¿ may be able to find it and proof that for 2,000 years everyone was terrible WRONG.

    • Ken Faivor

      Neat trick, how did you do that???

  • Shirley Kelly

    More than OBVIOUS no intimate, personal Relationship with Jesus, The Second Person Of The GODHEAD, exists with this so called “pastor”. Pray for deliverance and salvation.

  • acontraryview

    Ahhhh…freedom of speech and freedom of religious belief. Gotta love the US.

  • Ralph

    Whenever I come across a person like this preacher I actually pity them for they preach another Gospel of Christ. Anyone remember Galatians 1:6-9 KJB.

    • Pastor Shawn

      Great verse, it mirrors my thoughts when I read a story like this along with Matthew 18:6
      “If anyone causes one of these little ones–those who believe in me–to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

      God Bless

  • DavWell

    “Apparently, because I don’t believe in a literal resurrection, I’m not really Christian,” Jim Rigby of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas wrote”

    “this hast thou said truly… I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment…For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”

  • Valri

    “A false teacher and minister in Texas…”

    Objectivity fail…right out of the gate.

    • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

      This website does not claim to be objective. Although I don’t agree with all of their views, they at least admit their lack of objectivity, where other news outlets try to veil it as best they can.

      “Christian News
      Network provides up-to-date news and information affecting the body of
      Christ worldwide from an uncompromising Biblical worldview.”

      • Valri

        If you’re a news site, you should not editorialize like that. Post the facts and people can decide for themselves how false he is.

        • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

          Find a news site anywhere that is totally objective. If you think such an animal exists, you have a lot of misplaced faith in humanity.

          If you are there first hand, you still get facts wrong and filter them through your own life experience and worldview.

          • Valri

            I agree with you that they all have an angle, but none as obvious and deliberate as to use a word like “false” in the first line of a news story. At that point it’s not objective journalism and doesn’t even pretend to be.

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            and wasn’t intended to be. As good Christians, we are called to point out falsehood and ask the wayward to repent.

          • Valri

            Then you should not be calling it news, you should be calling it an editorial, since it has become about opinion.

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            All “news” is opinion these days, it is up to the reader or viewer to discern the fact and truth. Journalists are propagandists now, not reporters. Why don’t your troll elsewhere, like Salon or HuffPo?

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            Opinions may be based upon facts. To use your argument, CNN, PMSNBC and Fox News are only opinion sites to be ignored. By his own statements, the “minister” has denied orthodox Christian belief, that is a fact, not an opinion.

          • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

            We are also called to welcome strangers into our land, feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless. Let’s do it all.

          • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

            What the heck does your comment have to do with this topic? Apostasy?

          • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

            “As good Christians is our duty to call out sin…” What else is your duty brother? Just curious. The way you guys talk to each other makes me embarrassed to call myself a Christian at all. I like Jesus, but your kind of christian – not so much.

          • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

            Well, they claim to report news from an “uncompromising biblical perspective”.

            So if you just compare what this pastor believes to the Bible, it becomes readily apparently that he does not believe what the Bible says. Thus, he is in fact a false teacher. It would be like a math teacher standing up and teaching that 2 + 2 = 5. If you don’t believe in math, you may not necessarily agree with calling him a false teacher. But if you believe in math, it’s pretty obvious.

        • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

          It’s easier to attack than to post the facts and let people decide for themselves though. Insert sarcasm.

  • Shaun D.

    He’s just another queer hating on God, the Gospel, and Christians.

  • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

    Yep, me in eternal glory…but don’t worry…there won’t be any tele-evangelists (or none that I know of, anyway) there and we won’t be in a “worship” service. I love being in church where a real, spirit filled man of God stands up and preaches THE BIBLE, hard and loud! I love singing the old hymns LOUD. I’ll get to see JESUS face to face! O what a wonderful day it will be, Jesus is coming again!

    As for you and Ghandi and all the rest of those false prophets…you’ll be begging for one drop of water to cool your tongue. Sorry….we won’t be able to help you, you have had your chance to humble yourself and believe the gospel, instead you are mocking it.

    Pro 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
    Pro 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
    Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
    Pro 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
    Pro 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

    • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

      Wow. Not much compassion in your words here. What about For God so LOVED THE WORLD that He gave his only son…? Those words ring a bell? We don’t have to be theology clones. I probably wouldn’t like your church and you probably wouldn’t like mine. That doesn’t mean I’m the enemy or that you are mine.

      • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

        My comments were directed at a false teacher. I have NO compassion for false teachers that are deliberately leading people to hell. I have plenty of compassion for the lost…I’ve gone out knocking the doors, I’ve given the gospel to my family and co-workers. Big difference. God bless.

  • jennylynn

    This guy by his rejection of the resurection is antichrist.

    4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh (present tense) is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, 1 John 4:1

  • 201821208 :)

    “Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-23

  • Sanyobabe

    As soon as I saw the “rainbow” effect that was enough for me. I wouldn’t believe anything he said or that he is truly Christian.

    • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

      He is a false teacher who is in Austardia, a cancer in Texas.

  • tigersfan61

    Don’t worry about keeping your screams down…it won’t be heard in Heaven…such a surprise waiting for you when you see the eternal God who became man, died for our sin and then rose bodily from the grave…

  • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

    Yep, an apostate fool.

  • kim segar

    Matthew 10: 11-14 Matthew 7:6 also we are told in the bible that if anyone changes one dot or tittle and adds to or takes away from G-d’s Word is accursed ..this is the day of great apostasy, and it is growing. it is also the day G-d said HIS eyes go back to Jerusalem and revomove the vail from Jewish eyes. there is a great revival going on in Israel, and G-d said when Israel becomes a nation we are the generation that will see HIM…HE is near so very near..that is why G-d said, I wish you were either hot or cold, but because you are luke warn, I will vomit you up. the road is wide for the lost and the narrow road is narrow and few find it. some fell off the narrow road and became twice the sons of hell, the time of the gentiles is over. read Romans nine, ten and eleven In ll G-d says all Israel will be saved..as HE blinded them to truth for us heathen so we could become sons of G-d. the big lie that the church replaced Israel and Jews is a lie..anyone who believes in the Son of G-d is grafted into the Olive True ..all I can say is G-ds work is truth, read it

  • George Jenkins


    ““Apparently, because I don’t believe in a literal resurrection, I’m not really Christian,” Jim Rigby of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas wrote on social media on Dec. 25. ”

    This is the same Presbyterian minister who wrote in 2006( and apparently he’s still a pastor after 10 years), “So I wasn’t surprised when many were unhappy about the decision of St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church in Austin, Texas, where I am the pastor, to let a self-professed atheist become a member. ”

    Of course, it does make perfect sense that if he does not believe in the resurrection that he would accept atheists as church members, because, as Paul wrote to the Corinthians, if there is no resurrection then it is vanity to have faith in Christ so he might just as well be an atheist with a quirky philosophy.

    1 Corinthians 15:12-16 reads, “Now if Christ be preached that He rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ: whom He raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.”

    I guess one thing you can say about him is that he not a hypocrite; he does not display a lot of logic, but he does not seem to be hypocritical . I cannot say the same for the hierarchy of the church of which he is a part.

    • Why Ask Why?

      Out of curiosity,in theory aren’t atheists some of the people the church WOULD want to have sitting in the service every chance the had, to make sure that they are “under the word” and exposed to the Christian gospels? That is, as long as Churchians are remotely interested in following the example that Christ set and not just looking to preach to the proverbial choir every Sunday.

      It’s an easy thing to surround yourself with like minded individuals and create a comfort zone in which you’ll never be challenged to sharpen your faith with Christ-like action, while you sit back and rail on the sins of the world outside your bubble. It’s a much harder thing to expose yourself to people and ideas that contradict your own, and have constructive face-to-face conversations about your differences while opening yourself up to possibly being asked how you came to your point of belief. If you can’t do that, then how can you ever hope to fulfill the great commission as set forth in the Gospels.

      Perhaps the fact that the Church has done more of the former, instead of the latter is the reason why disillusionment is on the rise amongst people of faith as it is hard to reconcile the vitriol that comes from many congregations to the unconditional love that Christ exuded.

      Just a thought.

      • George Jenkins

        Perhaps you need to try to understand the difference between church membership and church attendance,,,,,,then you could criticize more intelligently.

        • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

          Seriously? Do you even realize what you’re saying. God is not a building and you don’t hold the keys to let people in or not.

          • George Jenkins

            Yup , I realize what i am saying, but I am not responsible for your understanding. Do you really like making obviously statements that are not relevant to the original point. Who but you suggested God was a building? Maybe you need a nap.

          • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

            Thank you George for showing me why I don’t like so called Christians who talk to those who ask questions like they are trash. Disrespectful and hateful lot. White washed tombs is all I see here. May God have mercy on you. Oh wait. He already did. Just like He did for this Jim fellow regardless if you approve or not. So thankful God’s grace is bigger than man’s.

          • George Jenkins

            Oh wait, you really did not ask a question did you? You just started pointing out the obvious. That God id not a building. Well done. and then telling me what I don’t hold.

          • Melanie Knoedl Patrick

            Doctrines, creeds, etc. seem to be more important to some people than actually loving their neighbor. What am I if I don’t have love? I feel for you brother. I love you regardless of our theological differences. Not because I’m commanded to do it, but because my goal is to be a follower of Jesus – NOT a follower of man’s rules and regulations.

          • George Jenkins


        • Why Ask Why?

          While I truly appreciate the platform upon which you feel your retort was built, I am acutely aware of the perceived differences between membership and attendance as I served in a different staff roles (ministerial and administrative) with several different Baptist churches over the past quarter century. I’m also acutely aware of the failings of the church from the inside out when it comes to the spiritual country club atmosphere that is indicative of the current “churchianity” and the declining participation by said members in anything that remotely resembles ministry.
          The gospels never set forth any guidelines on congregational membership and quite frankly the idea of an atheist being a “member” of a church intrigues me as it seems to me to be a window into differing opinions and viewpoints that the Church shouldn’t shy away from, but utilize as a sharpening process to better understand the mentality and needs of non-believers. Personally I find it incredible that this particular pastor was able to actually convince an atheist to be a member of this particular flock. They must be truly exhibiting phileo love to ALL of creation, not just the socially select.

          • George Jenkins

            You do seem to aspire to verbosity. Keep going. You may make sense yet, even though you cannot seem to stick to the original point.

          • Why Ask Why?

            Which original point would you be referring to George? That the pastor doesn’t believe in the resurrection, or that there is an issue with an atheist as a church member, or that the pastor isn’t a hypocrite, or that the church hierarchy is? I didn’t feel I had the time to delve into all of your original points so I chose the one I felt was most glaring (the church is) and rolled with it, but if that doesn’t suit your narrative, by all means I’m happy to discuss whatever point you deemed as your “original” point

          • George Jenkins

            Original usually means “first” but what you wrote has nothing to do with any of my comments…….you just wanted to go off on a rabbit trail. Go for it. I am glad that you felt you did not have “the time to delve into all of” my original points, and I find there is nothing in what you have written that is worth my time, so you work your writing style and I won’t waste my time reading it.

  • David Marks

    The commenting guidelines say: 5) Maintain a meek and humble spirit. If you disagree on a subject, be gentle in expressing your viewpoint. (Matthew 5:5; Philippians 2:3; Colossians 3:2; 1 Peter 3:8)

    Just reminding.

  • Jim Wetherell

    finally, someone says something that makes sense. I was raised in a fundagelical pentecostal church and came to believe it is all bullshit. Hell is a creation of man to control others’ behavior. The biggest con is the church doctrine of : Send me money and you will get pie in the sky , by and by after you die.

  • Beverly Veltman

    What do you mean by “some” people support him? The man has friends and admirers all over this country and probably beyond. Here in Austin we consider him a National Treasure. He is the voice of reason in what has become a “holier than thou” branch of the Christian religion. He’s the only reason I haven’t given up entirely on Christianity.

  • Gianinatio

    Wow, I like him! I hope to meet him some day. Finally… a christian making sense. Imagine.

  • A. L. Locasio

    Yet Jim Rigby has a robust following. He and others like him aren’t denying the resurrection, they’re simply taking it metaphorically instead of literally. The clear advantage to that is that it can stand up to scrutiny by atheists and skeptics. Rarely, if ever, can a Biblical literalist go toe to toe with a smart, well-informed atheist and prevail. More times than I can count, I’ve watched literalism crumble to dust under rigorous questioning by an atheist who is well-informed on both the Bible and science. On the other hand, I’ve used Rigby’s historical-metaphorical approach with my skeptical and atheist friends and it’s really challenged them. It’s something to think about, especially considering that the majority of your own young people are leaving the church to embrace atheism or simply being “spiritual but not religious.” They’re de-Christianizing, de-churching, and de-converting after having grown up in the church. These statistics for church decline, by the way, come not from the liberal left but from Christian conservatives, with researcher George Barna being chief among them.