Oklahoma High School Wrestlers Charged With Raping Male Teammates on Bus

Bus pd-compressedNORMAN, Okla. — Four high school wrestlers in Oklahoma have been charged with raping two of their male teammates during a hazing incident last month.

Tanner Shipman, 18, Sage Gandenberger, 17, and Chase Smith, 16, are charged with two counts of first-degree rape by instrumentation by force and fear, and first-degree rape by instrumentation of a victim under the age of 14. Hunter Matthews, 17, is charged with one count of first-degree rape by instrumentation of a victim under the age of 14. The charges are all felonies.

According to reports, the students from the Norman North High School junior varsity wrestling team are accused of sexually assaulting two teammates, ages 16 and 12, on the bus and outside of the school.

“Shipman, Gandenberger and Smith each assaulted the 16-year-old at the back of the bus by restraining him and using their fingers to sexually assault the boy over his clothing,” reports local television station News9. “Later, all four suspects attempted to lure a 12-year-old middle school wrestler to the back of the bus as well, before pulling the boy to the back. All four suspects then assault the boy in the same manner as before.”

Reports state that the 12-year-old was assaulted a second time after returning to the school, both outside of the building and in the parking lot, and did not stop until his parents arrived.

Police investigated the situation, which occurred as the wrestling team returned from an event in Paul’s Valley, and concluded that “multiple acts of sexual assault” took place. An adjunct coach was also fired in light of the situation and a second coach suspended. A number of students not charged were also suspended as well.

“As we address the inappropriate behavior displayed by several students, we remain committed to supporting the vast majority of our student athletes, who are quality individuals that demonstrate positive behavior and strong character traits,” Joseph Siano, superintendent of Norman Public Schools, said in a statement.

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On Friday, Austin Quinton, 24, a teacher at nearby Choctaw High School in Oklahoma City, was likewise arrested on multiple counts of rape in the first degree for having sexual contact with a female student. He doubled as a wrestling coach for the school.

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  • Shaun D.

    Freaking sicko perverts! Reminds me of the Biblically Historic account of Sodom & Gomorrah.

    Praise God that they will be found guilty and put in prison! I hope they sue those freaks too.

    Leviticus q8:22
    Leviticus 20:13
    Romans 1:24-32
    Genesis 2
    Genesis 19

  • FoJC_Forever

    This type of thing will increase as the Devil seduces more and more people into believing homosexuality is normal.

    • Michael C

      This was a hazing. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. In fact, the actions of these students are extremely anti-gay.

      • Peter Leh

        yep

      • afchief

        Still there is nothing normal about homosexuality. It is a spiritual and mental sickness.

        • BobRumba

          Too bad science doesn’t agree with you.

          • afchief

            But the God of the universe does!!!

          • BobRumba

            Whom you do not speak on behalf of.

          • afchief

            I sure do!!!

          • BobRumba

            No, you are not God and you don’t know His thoughts.

          • afchief

            I sure do!!!

            1 Corinthians 2:16 (NASB) For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

          • BobRumba

            Then how do you explain all the other Christians who have the “mind of Christ” and have no issue with homosexuals?

          • afchief

            As a Christian we accept you as an individual and love you. However, a true Christian will never condone sin. Homosexuality is sin. God does not approve of this lifestyle. Anyone who says they are a Christian and does condone this lifestyle, does not know God and does not know His Word!

          • BobRumba

            Utter nonsense, and faith-based hatred.

          • afchief

            Then why are you here on a Christian forum? This is what we believe. It comes from the Word of God. We will NOT change!!!

          • BobRumba

            You are like no Christian I have ever encountered. You are the OPPOSITE of all the Christians I’ve ever met. Where I live, the Christians are NOT fundamentalists. They are Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, etc. and even if they have been taught homosexuality is a sin, they treat homosexuals with love and with tolerance.

          • afchief

            Then you have not met real Christians. A real Christian will love you as a person but will not condone your sin. Homosexuality is sin. Any Christian knows this. If a so called Christian is tolerating you sin, they are NO Christian and leading you down a path to hell

          • BobRumba

            No True Scotsman fallacy. Over and over and over with you? Who’s a real Christian? The ones whom you say are. Who isn’t? The ones you hate.

          • afchief

            Real Christians have given their life to Jesus Christ and live by His Word. His Word is very clear about homosexuality. It is sin. It is death!

          • BobRumba

            If it’s so bad why didn’t it make it into the Ten Commandments? Shouldn’t you be lecturing people about coveting instead?

        • TheKingOfRhye

          There’s that word again….”normal”. If it’s not normal, it must be WRONG and EVIL? Oooh, scary….

      • Angel Jabbins

        Yeah, right, nothing at all to do with homosexuality…only in yours liberal dreams (or nightmares in this case). But where did they did get the idea to do these things? When I was a kid, we didn’t even know about such disgusting actions one man could do to another. As teens, we were not exposed to such depravity. Today, it is as accessible as one click of the mouse. And, in some school districts, children are even being taught about how homosexual sex is performed. If we go down this road, legitimizing immoral behaviors, why are we so shocked when we read stories such as this one? Garage in, garbage out. We teach them immorality is a protected civil right, even celebrate it as something to be proud of….and out it comes in behavior. Kids today are growing up in a world where moral absolutes no longer exist. We will see more of this kind of behavior as the moral fabric of our nation continues to deteriorate.

        • afchief

          Well said!

        • acontraryview

          “We teach them immorality is a protected civil right, even celebrate it as something to be proud of….and out it comes in behavior.”

          So you are suggesting that these actions are a result of homosexuality no longer being viewed by society as a terrible thing? The reality is that hazing is designed to humiliate and degrade the individual being hazed. Therefore, this act was perpetrated by those who have a negative view of homosexuality. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be a degrading and humiliating act.

          The actions of these boys is a result of poor parenting – nothing more.

          • Angel Jabbins

            I am suggesting….just as I plainly said above, that our society has reached an all time low as far as morality and it is finally affecting how our kids behave. What was once looked upon as bad is now touted as good. Kids are being exposed to all kinds of sexual behaviors that my generation had never even heard of. These behaviors are even being taught in schools now. Before homosexuality was a protected class, their sexual practices were not widely known, if known at all. Now it is all over the media, in moves, on TV, internet because the gay lifestyle is being celebrated. Anything goes today and sadly we will see more stories like this one because the moral underpinnings of society are quickly being removed. Anarchy is what you eventually get when society shifts away from believing in a system of moral absolutes.

          • acontraryview

            “I am suggesting….just as I plainly said above, that our society has reached an all time low as far as morality and it is finally affecting how our kids behave.”

            That is a statement made by every generation about the generation that followed.

            “What was once looked upon as bad is now touted as good.”

            In some cases yes, in others, no.

            “Kids are being exposed to all kinds of sexual behaviors that my generation had never even heard of.”

            While I realize that YOU may not of heard of certain sexual behaviors based upon where you grew up, to suggest that your experience translates to everyone in your generation is simply inaccurate.

            “Before homosexuality was a protected class”

            It is only a protected class in certain places in the US. In others, it is not.

            “their sexual practices were not widely known, if known at all. ”

            Again, your personal awareness does not translate to everyone else.

            “Anything goes today and sadly we will see more stories like this one because the moral underpinnings of society are quickly being removed.”

            These types of activities have been happening for years.

            “Anarchy is what you eventually get when society shifts away from believing in a system of moral absolutes.”

            Society has never held a common view of the totality of what is moral and what is not. Given that, what is your basis for suggesting that anarchy will result?

        • Peter Leh

          “We teach them immorality is a protected civil right”
          there are many “immoral” behaviors that are legal … that is until you force yourself on an unwilling participate. That is where your right turns into a crime .

          This was a crime… and will be dealt with legally.

          • Angel Jabbins

            I never said it was not a crime. It is a vile crime. But don’t you see, when children start acting this way, it reflects back on the society. We are now living in a society that calls good evil and evil good. It is affecting the morality, minds, hearts, and behavior of our children. When adults do something this vile, that is one thing. But when our children begin acting this way, society is in deep trouble. You are so busy worrying about defending the gay lifestyle, you can’t see the forest for the trees.

          • Peter Leh

            “You are so busy worrying about defending the gay lifestyle, you can’t see the forest for the trees”
            Source?

          • Peter Leh

            “But don’t you see, when children start acting this way, it reflects back
            on the society. We are now living in a society that calls good evil and
            evil good. It is affecting the morality, minds, hearts, and behavior of
            our children”

            I agree. however hazing has always been around. even this kind you hazing.

          • Angel Jabbins

            BTW, Peter, welcome back. Hadn’t see anything from you in a while. Hope all is well.

          • Peter Leh

            thanks…. A welcome distraction from my work. I’m probably pop in and out .

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          So your boyfriend/husband never finger f****d you? Okay.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Your vile comment just proved everything I was saying is true. This is the younger generation today…jaded, tainted, and cynical and, when they can’t make an intelligent comment to defend their point of view, they resort to demeaning others with filth talk. I feel so sorry for you.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            You don’t have to feel sorry for me. I wish I still belonged to the younger generation. So you think only the younger generation use words like that? Well shouldn’t be surprised, you probably only read books or watch movies that don’t have any mention of sex. And what those kids did had nothing to with homosexual sex.

          • Bob Johnson

            She is 68 years old – too young for all those pre-Hays Code and Film Noir movies.

        • The Skeptical Chymist

          These kind of things have been going on for a long, long time – and I’m sure they happened when you were a kid. I was perceived as a wimp when I was in junior high because I carried a briefcase to school, played a musical instrument, and had no interest or ability in sports. Science and math were my thing. I recall having one of the football players in school attempt to force my head into his lap on the school bus coming home from school – and that was approximately 50 years ago! This is just an attempt by those engaging in it to humiliate their perceived underlings. It is a power play, pure and simple, an act of a bully. It has nothing to do with the acceptance of homosexuality in today’s society.

          • Angel Jabbins

            No, nothing of this kind ever happened in our school back in the 50’s-60’s. The biggest offense was gum chewing. Kids didn’t even know about such disgusting behaviors or gestures. And….we had something else that is missing today…discipline…both in the school and at home. I didn’t dare act up in school. Dad would have me moving a huge woodpile…log by log…from one end of the yard to the other and then back again….took hours. Did that one time and never acted up again! Kids today are exposed to filth on the internet, TV, movies, and they are cuddled both at home and at school. We can’t discipline the little darlings anymore….someone might yell child abuse. I am thankful for the tough love of my parents and the strict discipline at my school.
            These kids are not acting out hatred for homosexuals. They are simply acting out what they see in the media, in the debauched society around them. As kids, we never heard of these disgusting behaviors. If they went on, people didn’t flaunt them in front of everyone as is done today.

          • Bob Johnson

            Today we have much more access to “news.” Back in those days we had 60 minutes of Walter Cronkite and I would have no idea what happened in Oklahoma. So back then we were just naive. But feel free to checkout hazing at military schools (both the armed services and private schools) for abuses. And yes hazing was occurring on the play ground as well as the school bus.

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            I’m glad that didn’t happen in your school, at least to your knowledge. My incident wasn’t as bad as what was described in this incident, by far. I wasn’t actually raped or forced to perform a sex act, but everyone thought it was pretty funny that the weird kid who liked science instead of sports had his head pushed down into the football player’s crotch. Well, I got the last laugh. I have a well-paid, interesting job that is well respected and that I love, and they’re working in Walmart.

            Just because you didn’t hear of these things happening in those times doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Maybe they weren’t carried through to the actual rape that happened in this example very often, or maybe the person who was humiliated in this manner didn’t want to report it, and be further humiliated in the process. But I assure you, things like this happened back then from time to time. The lower the status of the individual, the more likely this sort of thing would happen. My incident happened on a school bus in a small town in Pennsylvania about 1965.

            These kids are certainly not doing this because they want to enjoy a homosexual experience. If that were their object, they could experiment with each other. Their goal is to humiliate the victim, to use him the same way a rapist uses a woman, and to show him in the most visceral way who is boss. I know it, and I hate it. My kids were raised well, and don’t do this kind of thing. These guys are thugs and bullies, which have been on the planet for a long, long time. Back in the 50’s and 60’s, it was probably more often that blacks were their victims, but this is nothing new. Indeed, there is nothing new under the sun.

      • FoJC_Forever

        Homosexual acts are directly related to homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion of God’s design wrought by the Sin within those who embrace it.

      • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

        Look up hazing at Urban Dictionary. It does not agree. However, you can submit your own false definition if you dislike what others have said.

      • TampaZeke

        Oh, brother, you people will lie your way out of anything.

    • gizmo23

      How is this related to homosexuality?This is all about stupid kids thinking this was funny. Their dads probably did it when they were in sports.

      • StanW

        Are you seriously asking how a male raping another male relates to homosexuality?

        • gizmo23

          A straight male raping a straight female is all about hetrosexual intercourse. Now I understand your logic one is OK one is bad.

          Are your saying the 3 rapists were gay?

          • StanW

            Or bi.
            Rape is about power, not sex. Who is raped is about orientation.
            Do you think heterosexual people rape people of the same gender?

          • gizmo23

            Sometimes they do. If it is about power and not sex as you say. How would it be related to the victims sex. Remember you are the one that stated this was about homosexuality.

          • StanW

            No, I was asking about YOU trying to claim this had nothing to do with homosexuality.

          • gizmo23

            It doesn’t, unless you somehow know all the preps are gay

          • StanW

            Provide proof of your assertion!

          • gizmo23

            I have no idea if any are gay and never claimed they were

          • BobRumba

            Rape is an act of violence, not sexual attraction. I wish I knew where you learned this nonsense.

      • afchief

        I’m 54 and played all kinds of sports in HS. NOTHING like this happened. It is a reflection of our society today.

        • Angel Jabbins

          I am 68 and nothing like this EVER happened in school when I was growing up. I rode on school buses to all kinds of sports events. We never even needed monitors on the buses in those days. The only behavior I recall anyone getting reprimanded for was gum chewing. Wow…have things changed!

          • afchief

            Yes, how times have changed. And not for the better.

          • acontraryview

            I’m 58 and homosexuality was always something that was fodder for being teased, harassed, and humiliated in school. Hazing has been a part of sports (and fraternities) for as long as I’ve been around. Often, this hazing took the form of some type of sexual humiliation. The predators were not homosexuals. Just the opposite, They took these actions to humiliate and degrade the person being hazed, which means that they viewed such actions negatively.

          • Angel Jabbins

            I am sorry for you. I had a wonderful childhood. Nothing like that ever happened in our small update NY town. We didn’t even know of such things nor needed to know them. We had stern, yet loving discipline both at home and in school. It was a great time and place to be a kid.

          • acontraryview

            “Nothing like that ever happened in our small update NY town.”

            Since it would be impossible for you to know everything that happened in your town, you cannot say with certainty that nothing like that every happened in your town. Your reality does not translate into everyone’s reality.

            I’m pleased that you had a wonderful childhood.

          • Bob Johnson

            “Thank you sir. May I have another?” I wonder where the writers of “Animal House” (1978) got their material? They must have had a time machine.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Think!…. I am 68…that means I grew up in the 50’s, early 60’s. By the late 70’s, when I was in my late 20’s, we had already started down the path of secular humanism and progressive, post modern thought…a road we have been barreling down at a breakneck pace for for quite some time now. And, the above news story is the fruit of that world view. Animal House was just the beginning. Much worse debauchery going on today and it affecting our children in a very negative way. They don’t know right from wrong since it is no longer clearly defined nor enforced for them. Sad you are so blind you cannot see it.

        • The Skeptical Chymist

          WRONG! This has happened for a long, long time – it is an attempt to humiliate and position oneself as superior to the other. I related an incident in my reply to Angel Jabbins above, which happened to me personally about 50 years ago. Here’s that reply to her again:

          These kind of things have been going on for a long, long time – and I’m sure they happened when you were a kid. I was perceived as a wimp when I was in junior high because I carried a briefcase to school, played a musical instrument, and had no interest or ability in sports. Science and math were my thing. I recall having one of the football players in school attempt to force my head into his lap on the school bus coming home from school – and that was approximately 50 years ago! This is just an attempt by those engaging in it to humiliate their perceived underlings. It is a power play, pure and simple, an act of a bully. It has nothing to do with the acceptance of homosexuality in today’s society.

          • afchief

            WRONG!!! Maybe in you sick liberal mind. This was NEVER heard of where I grew up.

            More proof the homosexuality truly is a mental disease!!!

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            If you dispute the validity of my own personal experiences, then there is no talking with you. I tell you it happened to me. If you don’t believe it, then go pound sand!

    • BobRumba

      You’re actually serious? You think this was a “gay rape” or something?

      • FoJC_Forever

        The actions speak for themselves.

        • BobRumba

          So then you must think the rape of a woman by a man is likewise sexual in nature, and not an act of violence?

          I think you would do well to learn more about violent crimes and then sign up for some sensitivity training.

          • FoJC_Forever

            A man raping a woman is sexual in nature and a violent act of hate and complete disregard for the woman. If it wasn’t sexual in nature, then the man would commit some other act of violence to dominate and control her. Trying to separate rape from wicked and perverted sexual desire is the work of fools.

          • BobRumba

            You’re trying to apply sexuality rules to rape depending on which sex is the abuser and which is the abused. That’s got no basis in fact and is very irresponsible.

          • FoJC_Forever

            A male raping a female is evil and is linked to perverted sexual desire, as is a female raping a male, a male raping a male, and a female raping a female sexual perversion. Homosexuality is sexual perversion. Like the Devil is not equal to God, so homosexuality is not equal to heterosexuality.

            Follow Jesus, find Truth.

            However, trolls who simply use their online access to stalk and harass people always reject the Truth.

            Judgement is coming.

          • BobRumba

            Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not sex. You are determined to believe your own lie, but what I’m saying is a psychological fact.

            And for the last time, homosexuality is not perversion. It is normal variation of human sexuality.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Homosexuality is a sexual perversion from God’s design. Sex was created by God for intimacy and procreation, both, between a man and a woman.

            Follow Jesus, find Truth.

          • FoJC_Forever

            If rape were not a violent sexual crime, then there would be no sex acts committed against the victim. I’m astonished at just how gullible people are to believe something contrary to the obvious.

          • BobRumba

            It is a violent act which utilizes sexual abuse. Your understanding of it is filtered through a warped morality based on false religion and not from a mental health perspective which is more accurate. I am astonished at people who think modern medicine and science is trumped by a 2000 year old book.

          • FoJC_Forever

            You are wrong about me. You are wrong about God. God is Eternal. His Word is Eternal. He doesn’t grow old, nor passes away, nor changes. Truth is Eternal.

            You seem fixated on the topic of rape. Now, move along and talk to someone else. Quit trolling me.

          • BobRumba

            It is not trolling to point out your hateful and erroneous information, and as long as I see such things posted by anyone at all, I will call them out. That you see this as an act of homosexuality and not violence is offensive in the extreme and you should be ashamed of yourself and apologize to the LGBT community as a whole. The Jesus you claim to worship would be appalled by your behavior.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Your “calling out” is irrelevant. You are just an angry person who has rejected Truth.

            Call upon Jesus to save you from your Sin, so you can see the Light and inherit Eternal Life.

          • BobRumba

            I’m not the angry hateful one. I have no problem with liberals or homosexuals or atheists. And what you’re calling Truth is a load of hatred you have been indoctrinated with.

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            Yet another account? Was the other one not working for you?

          • BobRumba

            Any proof of your delusion? No, of course not. Do you ever, though?

    • Cady555

      Rape has nothing to do with sexual attraction. Hazing has nothing to do with sexual attraction. This was about power, humiliation and control and making sure that social inferiors know they are at the mercy of the powerful.

      • FoJC_Forever

        If it had nothing to do with sexuality, then a sexual act wouldn’t be committed. I agree it’s not about loving attraction. Rape is evil. But, it is still linked to sexual attraction, just a perversion of it.

        • BobRumba

          Can you provide an affirmation of your theory from a mental health professional?

          • FoJC_Forever

            I’m not writing theories. I listen to God. He speaks Truth.

          • BobRumba

            The 9/11 hijackers thought they were “listening to God” too.

          • FoJC_Forever

            They thought, I know. I don’t commit acts of terrorism. I’m not trying to kill anyone.

            You’re just a troll who is lost in Darkness.

            You can be saved though, if you will call upon Jesus (the) Christ to save you.

          • BobRumba

            For them to kill themselves and hundreds of innocent people with them, I would say they were at least as firm in their convictions as you are. You don’t know God any better than anyone else.

          • BobRumba

            I don’t believe you are in a position to make suggestions of that sort.

          • JGC

            I think if you’re hearing voices you have more to discuss with a mental health professional than rape being more about sexual attraction than imposition of power.

          • FoJC_Forever

            You’re inferring something into what I wrote, rather than comprehending it properly. To say rape has nothing to do with sex is preposterous.

    • acontraryview

      So you are suggesting that the boys who perpetrated this act were homosexuals and that the acceptance of homosexuals in society is related to this action?

      “On Friday, Austin Quinton, 24, a teacher at nearby Choctaw High School in Oklahoma City, was likewise arrested on multiple counts of rape in the first degree for having sexual contact with a female student.”

      Would that be a result of heterosexuality being accepted as normal?

      • Ambulance Chaser

        Mic drop.

        • acontraryview

          LOL. Thanks.

      • FoJC_Forever

        Heterosexuality is God’s design. Homosexuality is a perversion of the sexuality that God designed. When perversion is accepted as good, then more evil ensues. This isn’t just true for homosexuality, but all other sins.

        The answer is Jesus (the) Christ. He will forgive and cleanse people of their Sin, if they will confess Him as LORD and ask Him to save them. Those who want to change the definition of what is good and evil don’t want forgiveness, they want what the Devil wants – to be their own god.

        As any sin is accepted and made to be “good” in the eyes of society, more corruption grows and drives people to commit evil acts.

        Follow Jesus, find Truth.

        • SFBruce

          Sexual orientation has nothing to do with this. What’s alleged here is several teen age boys assaulted two other boys in humiliating and perhaps violent ways. Your post suggests this would be just fine if only the two victims were girls instead of boys. That can’t be what you actually believe.

          • FoJC_Forever

            There no such thing as “sexual orientation”. That’s a term invented to justify sexual perversion.

            The homosexual movement has more to do with this than people want to acknowledge, but that’s expected from those who reject.

            Nowhere did I infer or say that raping girls is better than raping boys. You are the one planting the insinuation in the minds of the readers.

          • acontraryview

            “The homosexual movement has more to do with this than people want to acknowledge”

            Basis?

          • BobRumba

            “There no such thing as “sexual orientation”. That’s a term invented to justify sexual perversion.”

            I refer you to the American Psychological Association website. And if that doesn’t do it for you, about 15 other mental health association websites that will tell you the same thing, i.e. the truth that sexuality is not perversion.

        • acontraryview

          While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, unless you ARE God, you cannot say with certainty what his design is limited to. You are basing your statement on your beliefs, which are a matter of faith.

  • Angel Jabbins

    The most unsafe place for your children today…public schools and school buses. This is what happens when you take God and the 10 commandments out of the schools.

    • Nidalap

      Hmm…we oftentimes blame these problems on taking God out of the schools. The sad truth is, such would not have been possible if the society as a whole hadn’t already let His Word fall by the wayside…

      • Angel Jabbins

        Absolutely so. Our society stopped honoring the Bible as God’s infallible Word. I just read this quote on Facebook today:

        ‘There can be no doubt that the troubles in the Church today. and most of the troubles in the world, are due to a departure from the authority of the Bible.”

        Martin Lloyd Jones

        • gizmo23

          I need to remind you and Nid that at the start of WW I and WW2 Europe was very Christian and we were plunged into both wars. The exception was Japan.
          Over the last say 50 years we have not had terrible massive wars, greatly reduced famine, have eliminated a lot of terrible epidemics, and lessened the chance of nuclear war. In this country even poor people are not starving and most people have decent medical care. Our crime rate continues to fall, we have made great strides in civil rights, eliminating discrimination, and people live longer lives.
          We still have problems but near as many as in the past.
          I would say the world and the USA is getting better by the day

        • Nidalap

          It’s very true. If one looks closely, the roots of our societal woes are plain to see…

    • gizmo23

      Back to the good lld days of the 50s when you could beat up kids that were different and blacks were denided rights. Let’s not forget that criticism of the government got you labeled a commie. We also had a higher murder rate than now
      BTW those occurred when we had school prayer

      • Bob Johnson

        Looking at the past through rose colored glasses.

        • gizmo23

          No kidding!

  • acontraryview

    What a terrible act. I hope that the boys who perpetrated this act are held fully accountable.

  • Ambulance Chaser

    Those of you who want to blame the nebulous concept of “acceptance of homosexuality” for this occurrence should take note that Oklahoma is the #15 least gay-friendly state in America. So unless you can point to similar rape incidents happening at a much greater frequency in Hawaii, Massachusetts, California, and Vermont, I doubt “acceptance of homosexuality” is the problem here.

  • Palmtree

    Maybe the alleged ‘victim’ was wearing something provocative? Maybe he was really asking for it? Maybe he was flirtatious? How come liberals are not bashing the victim here? Oh wait…only woman secretly want to be raped.

  • FoJC_Forever

    There are boys being raped who will not say a word out of fear and shame.

    Judgement is coming.

    • BobRumba

      No it isn’t.

  • The Guest

    I’m curious, where was the supervision of these depraved and brutal ‘children’? Where were the real adults? Why was this allowed to continue so that they are now charged with multiple counts? I find it very hard to believe no one knew.

    “But mark this: There will be terrible times in the Last Days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people!” 2 Timothy 3:1-5

    • gizmo23

      The 18 year old was an adult.

  • BarkingDawg

    What happened to the good old days when all a wrestler had to worry about were scabies, ringworm, and impetigo?

    It seems like do long ago when the sport was represented by such fine, upstanding coaches like Dennis Hassert. . .

    Oh, wait.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    Sodom.

  • thelordlives2011

    It would be hard to say this was a homosexual motivated act. It appears to be more of a rape. What I don’t understand is that Shipman, Gandenberger, and Smith attempted to rape the “16 year old” by instrumentation and then “all four suspects attempted to lure a 12-year-old middle school wrestler to the back of the bus as well, before pulling the boy to the back. All four suspects then assault the boy in the same manner as before.” So this means the 16 year old who was assaulted by Shipman, Ganderberger, and Smith then in turn joined them assaulting the 12 year old. Why would the 16 year old who was assaulted and then join in an assault a 12 year old. Sounds like a set up deal.