Concerns Raised After Washington Man Twice Attempts to Change in Women’s Locker Room

Bathroom sign pdSEATTLE, Wash. — Concerns are being raised after a man who did not identify as “transgender” recently used the women’s locker room to change his clothes in front of women and young girls.

According to reports, the incident occurred on Feb. 8 as the man visited Evans Pool in Seattle, which is open to the general public.

Seattle Parks and Recreation told reporters this week that the individual was wearing men’s clothing and never claimed that he thought of himself as being a woman.

“This didn’t seem like a transgender issue to staff—someone who was ‘identifying’ as a woman,” Communications Manager David Takami said in a statement. “We have guidelines that allow transgender individuals to use restrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identity.”

Staff were alerted after some of the women and parents present saw the man enter the locker room and take off his shirt.

“Seeing this individual in the locker room, parents of swim team members (girls) and women who had paid for lap swim became alarmed and alerted our front desk staff,” Takami explained. “In response, an Evans Pool staff member entered the women’s locker room and asked the man to leave and offered the availability of a family changing room.”

The man complied, but after he finished swimming, he again attempted to use the locker room with the women and girls.

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“After the lap swim, he again entered the women’s locker room to change. Front desk staff again asked him to leave and he eventually did,” Takami said.

Reports state that some of the women present initially told the man to leave before they contacted the front desk, but he replied by stating, “The law has changed and I have the right to be here.”

As previously reported, the Washington Human Rights Commission issued statewide rules in December requiring that public facilities allow males who identify as female and vice versa be allowed to use the restroom that is consistent with their “gender identity.”

“All covered entities, except school districts or other primary and secondary schools, shall allow individuals the use of gender-segregated facilities, such as restrooms, locker rooms, dressing rooms, and homeless shelters, that are consistent with that individual’s gender identity,” one of the rules reads, which was to serve as a clarification to the Anderson-Murray Anti-Discrimination Law of 2006.

The regulations also state that if a person is uncomfortable with having a member of the opposite sex in the room with them, it is the person expressing discomfort who should be moved to a different restroom or locker room.

“If another person expresses concern or discomfort about a person who uses a facility that is consistent with the person’s gender identity, the person expressing discomfort should be directed to a separate or gender neutral facility, if available,” the section on “gender-segregated facilities” outlines.

As the police were not called regarding the incident at Evans Pool, there has been no further information released regarding the individual or his motives.

On the same day of the incident, in Olympia, those opposed to the new rules protested outside of the Washington State Capitol building out of their concern for the safety of women and children.

“I think it’s completely outrageous to allow mixed sex nudity in locker rooms,” Jill Wade of Spanaway told KING 5 News.

The Washington Senate considered a bill on Feb. 10 that would have repealed the rule, but it failed by a single vote.


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  • acontraryview

    That should be a concern.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Thanks, ACV!

      • acontraryview

        Sure.

  • Nidalap

    So, what are you gonna say? It would have been okay if he had put on a dress first? And why are you requiring a dress in the first place? Isn’t that just antiquated gender-specific clothing? 🙂

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Hey Nidalap, did you see where we got the Idaho Bible bill submitted on the other story here? 1st step toward the theocracy! They have no idea that prayer is coming next. After all, the Bible is full of prayer. Slippery slope to our advantage. 🙂

  • Josey

    He will be back and this time wearing a dress, we all knew that this new rule would begin another perversion. Makes me sick that the girls or women who are uncomfortable are the ones told to change or shower elsewhere. I know this scripture has been said time and time again but here it is again…:)…Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    • Hastur

      he’s on your side you idiot

      • Angel Jabbins

        I am flagging you. Profanity is not the only offensive thing not tolerated here. Calling someone a nasty name like idiot is degrading them and just as bad. You should be ashamed for yourself for having to resort to that. What was your point anyway?

        • Hastur

          I’ll call you an idiot because you are an idiot

        • gizmo23

          Pot calling the kettle black?

          • Angel Jabbins

            Where have I ever used profanity or called someone an idiot on this board? I will challenge your thinking in a out spoken way that you may not like. But to degrade and attack you personally with name calling?…where have I done that? Show me I will gladly apologize.

          • gizmo23

            You constantly ridicule public schools and gay people

          • pud

            They deserve it.

          • Angel Jabbins

            Give me an example please.

          • gizmo23

            “The most unsafe place for your children today…public schools and school buses.”
            Sure sounds like you are attacking teachers

          • Angel Jabbins

            I was attacking teachers? Come on….you have to come with something better than that. I taught school myself for a while..retired now. I was expressing my opinion of the situation in public schools today and of the transportation system from my own experience with my kids. Finally took them off and chauffeured them myself.

            But, I guess simply expressing an opinion is viewed as offensive speech today and considered to be ridicule when none was intended. Ridicule is personal attack and name calling.

      • Nidalap

        Not quite hardly. Someone on our side would have been concerned about protecting women from this sort of thing. He wouldn’t have done it himself.

        • Hastur

          yes we would, conservatives are encouraging people to do this as a stupid form of protest

          • Nidalap

            Well, they certainly shouldn’t do any such thing with ladies present! He should have been hauled to a holding cell to cool his jets! Not too long ago, he would have been…you know…before “enlightened” laws like this one…

          • Hastur

            allowing transgenders to use the restroom of their choice odsne’t mean you conservative perverts can flash people

          • Nidalap

            Conservative folks don’t. Kinda goes with the definition, you see. Liberals are the only one who are…all inclusive enough to fully embrace perversion. Definition again. 🙂

          • Hastur

            then explain the numerous sex scandals that conservatives have commited? we aren’t the pervert here you are. shut and piss of you sick freak

          • Balerion

            Did not Mike Huckabee once state that when he was in high school if he could have claimed that he felt like he “was really a girl” in order to be able to change and shower with the girls that he would have done so?

            How’s that for being a pervert?

  • Guest

    So, one of the supporters of discrimination did a protest and was removed? What does that prove other than his own moral bankruptcy and the false nature of those advocating discrimination that provoked him?

    The gender identity protections are 10 years old, all the commission did was put up written guidelines that had been being followed generally for those 10 years.

    He was removed and once the hate stirred up is put down with love these advocates for discrimination will fade away once more.

  • afchief

    “Concerns are being raised after a man who did not identify as “transgender” recently used the women’s locker room to change his clothes in front of women and young girls.”

    What a shock!!! This is what happens when we allow perversion (homosexuality) to run rampant in our country.

    • gizmo23

      Since it appears he is hetrosexual, maybe they are the main problem

      • Angel Jabbins

        Perverts of all kinds are the main problem.

  • Angel Jabbins

    Oh, so if he had been wearing a dress, he could have just gone in there and disrobed, exposing his male privates to the women….and that is A-ok?…. and the ones who are uncomfortable with it are the ones who have to use a different locker room? Am I living in the Twilight Zone?

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      It’s more like Hell on earth, Angel.

      • gizmo23

        Imagine a hell were people use the bathroom, the horror of it all!!

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          Imagine a Hell of your own making, Giz. You are already there, and someday will be in a darker pit.

          Thanks for the vulgarity over on LAN this morning:

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          gizmo23

          So barefoot homeless women walking down the street have many abortions. Did she give you a boner?

          7:22 a.m., Sunday Feb. 21 | Other comments by gizmo23

          • gizmo23

            WorldGoneCrazy
            “All pro choice people should be killed”

            Friday March 12, 2014

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Citation please.

          • gizmo23

            I have no idea why you keep responding to me.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Perhaps because you keep responding to me and you keep making lewd and vilgar suggestions.

        • Angel Jabbins

          As society continues to degrade further down into the cesspool of debauchery, it will truly feel like hell on earth even to people such as yourself, giz. That is what happens when there is not longer a fixed standard of right and wrong….heading to anarchy and, if you go back and take a look at history, that is not fun world to live in.

          • gizmo23

            Thers has never been a fixed standard of right and wrong. Society is in no way degrading

          • Angel Jabbins

            No fixed standard of right and wrong? Really? Then is it ok for me to rob a bank? If you say no, then justify why I cannot do that? You may say because it harms the patrons of that bank? Can I steal from a rich person then? After all, they have more than they need. It won’t hurt them to lose some of their money and it will help me out. (Already happening)If there is no fixed standard of right and wrong, then I can justify what I do according to what I feel is right for me. And you can justify what you do according to what you feel is right for you. Everyone doing what they feel is right in their own eyes leads eventually to anarchy and that necessitates the emergence of a dictator. Wait and see. It won’t be long now.
            Do be believe in absolutes? If you say no…are you absolutely sure of that?

          • gizmo23

            What was wrong today may have been acceptable in the past.

          • Angel Jabbins

            No, what is morally wrong today….but was accepted by people in the past…was still morally wrong then and will be morally wrong in the future. The standard is not what men think…but what God thinks and what He has decreed. If you have no God, you have no standard of morality to live by except the opinion of men which can change like the wind.

          • gizmo23

            There are almost no moral absolutes

          • Nidalap

            Goody! Since there are so few, name them! 🙂

          • gizmo23

            Molesting Children . Can you name some ?

          • Nidalap

            Oh dear. I’m afraid that some on your side would argue that your moral absolute was solely based on the culture. Not able to be stomached by you perhaps, but allowed in other places.

            It WOULD be someone on your current side of the ideological divide who would argue that, by the way. Sure you don’t want to come over to this side? We have absolutes! 🙂

          • gizmo23

            Please name some of those absolutes

          • Angel Jabbins

            I am just amazed you do not know them. But here are a few:
            You shall not murder another human being.
            You shall not bear false witness.
            You shall not commit adultery
            You shall not steal
            You shall not covet anything belonging to another
            What a different world it would be if all men obeyed just these 5 of the 10 commandments.

          • gizmo23

            Yes no war poverty or suffering. Now when do we start living them, including Christians?

          • Angel Jabbins

            You are equating murder with killing. The two are not the same. Murder is the willful, sinful taking of the life of another for unjustified, selfish reasons. Killing takes place in war, in defense of one’s country, in self defense when one’s life is threatened, or by the govt, taking the life of a convicted murderer to protect the lives of society at large. Not all killing is murder as condemned in the 10 commandments. There is a difference which you just don’t even see or want to acknowledge.

            As to poverty and suffering, even that is no justification for a person to steal. Though we emphasize with the destitute person and that empathy should motivate us to help the poor, that does not change the mandate…do not steal.

            No one perfectly obeys the 10 Commandments because we are all, at heart, sinners who do not want God ruling over us. That is why we need a Savior. The only difference between a Christian and a non-believer is that one is forgiven and has a new nature which now desires to obey and please God and the other is unforgiven and has no desire to please God or obey Him. Christians, those who have truly been saved and born again, DO seek to live the 10 commandments. If they are not doing that, then their claim to be saved is invalid and their ‘faith’ is a sham.

          • gizmo23

            I would dispute the killing vs murder idea. There is no justification for killing to defend one’s country. Only self defense or defence of others is justified.
            No one says the poor should steal, but the Bible is clear not to put obstacles in people’s path, but we do that with the low income folks. We are our brothers keeper.
            I believe people are born and live with the best intentions, we just lose our way. Thanks for responding

          • Angel Jabbins

            Well, I am sure glad for the men and women who died battling to defend our country during WWII against the maniac Hitler (whose goal was taking over the world). And, I am sure glad for our brave forces today who are defending us against ISIS. Thankfully, they have kept them from our shores so they aren’t beheading people who will not convert and throwing gays and transsexuals off tall buildings. Killing in war is justified under those circumstances. Are all wars justifiable wars? No, but that does not mean there is never any justifiable killing in war time. It is self defense on a massive scale. Being born in 1947, I am always mindful of and grateful for those who fought and died so that I could grow up in a free country and have the good life I have been able to live for 68 yrs. They died (some so young) so I could live in peace and safetly. Too bad you have such a jaded view of things and no appreciation of those who gave all.
            Poverty, I repeat, gives no one an excuse to steal. And that has nothing whatever to do with someone putting obstacles in people’s paths. Regardless of what someone does to me or against me, it does not give me a right to steal or disobey God’s moral laws. If people are indeed putting obstacles in people’s way, causing them to be poor or to continue in poverty, they will answer to God for it one day. A day of reckoning is coming for all lawbreakers.
            People may have the ‘best of intentions’, but it is not our intentions that matter. It is following what God has commanded and, when we fail, seeking forgiveness and spiritual rebirth through faith in Christ. That is the only thing that can bring peace to this sad world and true lasting joy to the human heart.

          • gizmo23

            Fighting Hitler and the Japaneses was was self defense. Where has anyone said poor people should steal??

          • Angel Jabbins

            I am surprised since you said, “There is no justification for killing to defend one’s country.” Glad to know you don’t consider all wars wrong. Murder=unjustified taking of the life of another human being….and it is always wrong.

            And always wrong to steal, even if one is poor. And that is just the point….these moral values are absolutes that do not change with the times, are true throughout human history (despite that fact we do not obey them).

            They are written on our conscience by our Creator. He is the author of them, not us. If it were left up to us, we would tweak them a little here or there to justify what we, in our sinful nature, want to do. Like saying abortion is not the taking of a human life…so we can justify it. But that is not what God says.

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            What,Gizmo23…like child rape and murder???

          • gizmo23

            Slavery, Native American genocide, the divine right of kings, forcing people to convert, child labor, hanging people for being witches, denying black people rights. Want some more?

          • Laurence Charles Ringo

            Hmm…no,Gizmo23…I doubt that these issues were acceptable in the eyes of Our Saviour,or the victims of said actions.Would they have been acceptable to YOU? Try again.

          • gizmo23

            Those were all policies of the USA supported by most churches

          • Angel Jabbins

            But they were never policies that were ordained by God…no matter what governments and even churches may have said about it.

            Look to the 10 Commandments…there are the fixed moral standards we will all be held accountable to on judgment day.

            Men always find a way to distort what is right and wrong. But the standard remains the same today as it was in all ages past. Men will continue to disobey and sin against God until Christ returns.

          • gizmo23

            Let’s take stealing. Is it OK to steal other countries secrets? How about killing people in war?

          • StanW

            Most of those things you mentioned are acceptable today, Giz. You’ll have to do better than that!

    • The Last Trump

      Worse.
      Bizarro Amerika.
      Completely unrecognizable from her former glorious self. 🙁

      • gizmo23

        Where was this great time in the past?

        • Balerion

          Probably back when blacks were supposed to address whites as “Massa”.

    • gizmo23

      What’s to stop somekne from doing that now? It clearly states that he was not Transgenderd but simply a perv

      • Angel Jabbins

        That is the point! There is nothing to stop him from doing that now. Had this happened years ago….he would have been kicked out of there post haste and probably thrown in jail for a day or two, rather than being molly coddled as he was. They letting him stay and swim and then he went right back into the women’s locker room after being told not to.
        He knows there is a leniency now due to imagined discrimination now and he and others will take advantage of it.

    • HazumuOsaragi

      Please rewrite your comment in the form of a direct statement, not as a statement disguised as a ‘question’.

  • marthajoy7

    I want to open up a possibility that has not been advocated here or elsewhere that I have read. I believe the person involved was Female to Male. Person is on hormones and is looking very male in appearance. I agree he should have used the Male changing room, but may be new to him doing so.