Attorney Says ‘Evidence Is Plenty’ That Norway Seized Couple’s Children Because of Christian Upbringing

bodnariu-compressedA Romanian attorney in the United States who has access to court documents surrounding five Norwegian children who were seized by the country’s child welfare services last November says that records clearly show the children were taken from their parents because of the family’s Christian faith.

As previously reported, in November, the Barnevernet seized Marius and Ruth Bodnariu’s two daughters, two sons and their baby, Ezekiel. The two eldest children were reportedly removed from school without their parents knowledge, and then Barnevarnet representatives arrived with police at the Bodnariu home, where welfare services seized the remaining children, minus the baby.

The organization returned the following day and removed the infant as well after the family tried to resolve the matter after being arrested.

Marius Bodnariu’s brother, Daniel, who is a pastor, explained in an online statement that the matter began when the children’s principal contacted welfare services after expressing concerns over how they were being raised, including in regard to the family’s Christian beliefs.

“The process of confiscating the Bodnariu children started when the Vevring School principal, the middle school attended by Eliana and Naomi, called the Barnevernet and expressed her concerns regarding the girls’ religious upbringing, her understanding that the girls are being disciplined at home, and that she considers the parents and grandmother to be radical Christians; an overriding concern that the principal’s perception of the parents’ and grandmother’s religious beliefs inhibit and handicap the girls’ development,” he outlined.

Now, the president of the Alliance for Romania’s Families, an attorney who has had access to court records surrounding the case, says that the family’s faith was indeed a factor in the children’s seizure.

“[T]he evidence is plenty,” wrote Peter Costea in an online post on Monday.

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“Documents and minutes of meetings have emerged since the abduction showing that as early as … more than a month before the children were taken into custody, the officials at Naustdal municipality disapproved of the parenting style of the Bodnariu parents, believing it, after questioning the children, to be based on the Bible,” he explained. “They plainly state that Barnevernet ‘is worried that this is a way of upbringing which is justified by the Bible.'”

Costea outlined that “[t]he documents also mention that the children were ‘brought up to respect God and their parents’ values.'”

“Barnevernet interpreted this as a possible conflict between the children’s assumed inability to live up to their parents’ value expectations and faith and that the parents’ religion could create an ‘inner conflict’ in the children and a stressful family environment,” he continued. “Religion is bad for children, Barnevernet’s minutes seem to say, and too much religion is lawful justification for snatching children away from their parents.”

During the course of the case, the discussion turned to abuse allegations as Barnevernet expressed concern that the children might have been spanked, which is illegal in Norway. The grandparents of the children, who have lived with the family at times, have rejected the allegations completely.

“We can assure that we have never seen that violence has been used against the children,” the grandfather said in a recent blog post. “Not even that they have raised their voices to them. The children themselves have never told us that the parents have been nasty to them.”


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  • Guest

    So, an unethical attorney shares information he shouldn’t and we take it as face value.

    I could see that they were using corporal punishment on children and made it clear they wouldn’t stop because of the justification that beating their children is a religious right would be ample reason for the their children to be removed to a safe environment.

    I do hope that wherever they are living now, they aren’t being beaten.

    • Thisoldspouse

      “Beaten” is an awfully emotion-charged, dishonest description of corporal punishment. But not surprised that you use it as propaganda.

      • Guest

        Only to those who try and make some corporal punishment ‘ok’. Hitting a child is a crime, if your only complaint is you don’t like one of the synonyms for hitting a person then it is probably a sign you don’t have much of a case at all.

        • Catherine Neill

          Where do you get that the children are being ‘beaten’ in the first place? Your reading comprehension is impaired or non-existent. If there was evidence of physical abuse, there would be a real reason for removing the children, but they are clearly saying that they took the children because of the family’s Christian faith.

          • Guest

            No actually ‘they’ haven’t said anything at all about the particulars because of the same kind of privacy laws that protect people in legal disputes here.

            But from the local paper articles and the discussion there is a very strong indication this was about the children being noticed to have signs of abuse at the school and when it was investigated the family tried to use the excuse of religion to justify what was happening to the children.

            Considering how some Christians in the US try to justify child abuse with the same kind of excuses I can see how the possible progression was 1) possible abuse noted, 2) parents contacted and interviewed, 3) authorities get strong impression that the abuse won’t stop as long as the children are in the home because it is justified with a ‘faith’ excuse, 4) removed the children from the abusive environment.

            But the truth is, we don’t know what has gone on in its entirety and the rumors spread by an unethical attorney shouldn’t be swaying anyone.

          • gizmo23

            “Barnevernet workers interrogated the girls at school regarding their home life. The girls reported they sometimes hid things from their parents for fear of being punished by getting an ear pulled or slapped across the behind or upside the head, but neither was afraid to go home.”
            From another news source

        • Zoran

          It is NOT criminal and Norway has been irresponsible in making it a crime. Physical damage of a child is a crime but physical discipline is at times necessary and far less damaging than pseudo psychological methods of deprivation of approval, manipulation and mind games.

      • gizmo23

        “Barnevernet workers interrogated the girls at school regarding their home life. The girls reported they sometimes hid things from their parents for fear of being punished by getting an ear pulled or slapped across the behind or upside the head, but neither was afraid to go home.”

        From an independant news source

    • AndrewDowling

      Homosexuals beat each other up all the time, so what’s the issue?

      • Guest

        Red herring. What does that have to do with children and how they are treated their parents?

        • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

          Parents are commanded to discipline their children to bring them in the fear of the LORD. Anyone who says otherwise is Satanic. AntiChrist. Like the govts of this wicked world.

          • Guest

            Then you are saying Norway is the wrong place for them to live?

            As we said in the Army The 4 Ps in action:

            Piss

            Poor

            Prior

            Planning

            The people of a nation are more than free to disallow abuse of children no matter if someone’s interpretation of their religion thinks it’s ok or not.

            I’d stop someone from abusing a child when I can even in the United States.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            Discipline is commanded by God. You antichrists like to find any way u can to persecuted Christians.

            GO TO HELL PIG.

          • Guest

            There are ways to discipline that don’t involve hitting. As for the rest I think of Matthew 7:2 and I forgive you your trespasses against me and pray that God will also.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            You don’t define discipline. Rodding is commanded by God. Looks like u need some. Publickly.

            I do not repent for anything I have said to you. You FALSELY ACCUSE to make yourself into a bogus victim. Try again. FAIL.

          • Guest

            And I still forgive you your trespasses against me.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            No trespass at all. Rebuking your lying puke is commanded by God. 🙂 have a nice day

          • Guest

            And since Christian rebuking would never include those words your trespass stands revealed, and I still forgive you for them.

          • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

            You are a dog, pig, snake, serpent, scorpion and viper. That’s some nice & Biblical words for you. Now, go to Hell.

          • Guest

            James 3 comes to mind.

          • John N

            Right. Because beating them and bringing them in the fear of a mythical sky daddy is the right way to educate children.

            And keep reminding them it is just because your god really, really loves them.

    • Zoran

      I doubt they were ever “beaten” – yet another example of using dishonest language to intimidate people into co-operation and silence. The government has no right to impose their damaging agenda on healthy families – they would be better dealing with properly abusive families rather than undertaking a religious crusade against the proven Christian values that Norway was once built upon.

      • Guest

        well then that settles it then. if only those Norwegians would let you rule their country everything would be hunky dory.

        • Zoran

          No but Norwegians have let their country be kidnapped by a liberal elite that by stealth and intimidation has cowed them into accepting their agenda. Read George Orwell’s Animal Farm.

          • Guest

            yeah, how dare the people legally decide that children shouldn’t be hit? again if they would only give up on democracy and listen to you.

          • Zoran

            I didn’t say they shouldn’t decide, I just explained why they decided. It’s funny how oh so reasonable liberals start sneering, shouting down and slandering their opponents when the weakness of their arguments is challenged. If you choose to swallow anti-Christian lies and destroy your society that’s your right, but as your neighbours Sweden are discovering their liberal Brave New World – another book worth reading – is not the paradise they dreamt of. Norway’s money may help to give an illusion of health, and make Christians complacent, but go down this road and your families are doomed and you will be slaves to ruling powers that will hold frightening powers of life and death over you

          • Guest

            They decided it because of all the evidence that hitting children does them harm physically and emotionally.

            And the hypocrisy of talking about sneering and shouting with the demagoguery you have left in all your notes just shows where the real problem lies.

            Feel a need to beat children move somewhere other than Norway before doing it is the lesson here.

          • Zoran

            They decided it because they were already doctrinally fixed and no amount of evidence would sway them. They then decided to demonise anyone who disagreed by slandering them as child abusers. As an intelligent person you must know the difference so why do close your mind and not allow rationality to replace your emotionalism. It may make you feel self-righteous now but I fear for Norway’s future. This issue is a minor one compared to what you will, and are already, facing. I wish you and Norway well

          • Guest

            No one slandered them at all – as we know the government has been very tight-lipped about what the situation is, respecting the privacy of the situation. All we have are rumors and innuendos by lawyers acting illegally and people with an ax to grind.

            The people of Norway have a right to make hitting children a criminal offense if that is what they want. And the only mind that is closed is yours. Again, they want to hit their kids then they should move, simple as that.

  • Dio Jones

    Grab the children and change the course of history…

    Always be on your guard and a light that is .shininginthedark.

  • Peter Leh

    Attorneys say lots of things. They get paid the same whether they lie, tell the truth, win, or lose.

  • Nidalap

    Coming soon to a former Constitutional Republic near you…

    • gizmo23

      You mean being able to hit children in the head?

      • http://www.dontneednostinkinwebsite.com/ Midlandr

        a non sequitur

      • Robin Bolt

        And you heard this where, you’re a gossip without sharing further info… typical follower… No wonder my family left such a beautiful Country and people… Pathetic…. If a child steals, lies, or abuses someone else, themselves or otherwise breaks the law, are people to throw them into the world thinking it is acceptable, or allow them to be sent to prison? No, I do not agree with abuse in any way, but unless you have a reason to say the child was struck in the head, why would you say such a thing?????? and slapping a child is the mouth is not abuse if that is what you mean…. if a child calls a sibling, or someone else a filthy name, or lies… it is within reason, though it must not cause the child to be hurt… it must be done so it is only to sting the skin…. Or are you that idiot that turns your child over to the state when they are unruly vs. trying to correct the child with firmness that is within a normal range…. and no, it should not be overstepped…. Never mind, I am sure you have perfect children…. I simply do not understand how so many can tolerate saying such garbage without solid proof, or even a quote to suggest the so-called truth you’re trying to say you know about…

        • gizmo23

          Nice justification for child abuse. I read other sources from the people involved in Norway. Hope you die in prison for your crimes

          • downeybill

            and taking a toddler and a baby from their parents isn’t child abuse? that’s sick. either you are pretending to be a degenerate or you are one.

          • gizmo23

            Taking a baby if there is possible abuse is justified

      • downeybill

        are you honestly defending this? or just trolling -i hope for your sake it’s trolling.

        • gizmo23

          I am asking if it is OK with people that support this family

          • downeybill

            yes, it is ok -unless they are beating them violently, which clearly they’re not -no one was claiming the children had and serious injuries at all -emotion physical or otherwise.

    • AndrewDowling

      Socialism always destroys the family. That has always been its goal.

  • sandra-paquette-

    How is it they go after Christians faith and not Islam? This is socialism at best. I have my doubts these kids were abused. But we do know most Islam kids are and they do nothing. Truth is they are trying to wipe out Christianity no matter how they deny it, the evidence is there it is so obvious. And this is all it is about.

    • John N

      Norway has a conservative government. Almost 75% of the Norwegians are member of the Church of Norway, which was the state church until recently. Less than 3% of Norwegians are Muslim.

      You could have read that just as I did on Wikipedia. Why then spouting all this nonsense?

      • sandra-paquette-

        Hm, you must be muslim – truth hurts ay

        • John N

          So if I show you’re spouting nonsense, I must be muslim? Please explain?

          • Robin Bolt

            Don’t be foolish, to compare is rightful… it is likely said to contrast the difference in values, even Norway is neglecting to see… you allow 3-10-30% of any radical religious group, they are protected, and under their religion huge huge HUGE amounts of moral issues not only exist, but are seen & worst, FELT by these children and yet no one can seem to tolerate strict Christian upbringings… NOW, I am unsure these children did not need to be removed,(not enough public info. so far), BUT would they ever investigate FGM, arranged marriages, child abuse ascribed in the Quran, or any of the number of abusive nature of Muslims is what I believe she seems to be questioning, and rightly so… How do so many modern Countries tolerate this widespread abuse & do NOTHING for the abuse so so many children and women suffer under Islam, and cry out daily about & go unheard but some how they focus on the eye of a needle & take children from their family with seemingly no real open discussion based off someone’s dislike of their religious convictions… Now, I do not like many USA religious groups, however… as long as they stay withing a real law, do not abuse the child, curse at then, allow them to go untreated for dental, medical needs… or hinder them from a healthy life that can and often can enter the world and be a success, who are we to say & or probe children and or look for things we do not agree with on a political level, which this seems to be… because it they had proof, it would be noted, so it is a witch hunt until they have shown they had reasons strong enough to face PUBLIC OPINION< BEFOREHAND not AFTER…. so John, be aware… most swords are double edged… I love Norway, I an 60% myself though I am American…. and while there socialized medicine & such may work, who are they to socialize Christianity???

          • John N

            This doesn’t even come close to an explanation. So because you claim radical muslims indoctrinate their children with religious bigotry, which I do not deny, radical christians should be able to get away with it? That’s odd.

            By the way, if they have evidence, they will not make it public because the law prohibits them from doing that. So the only thing you’ve got is christian fundamentalist claiming they didn’t do anything wrong. I wonder how you would react if it were really muslims claiming this…

          • Zoran

            AND IF THEY HAVE INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THEY WILL NOT MAKE IT PUBLIC – YOU THINK THEY WANT TO ADMIT IF THEY ARE WRONG?

  • George Varughese

    Godly marriages and godly families are a threat to the kingdom of darkness. The Norwegian government is doing the devil’s dirty work for him, by selectively kidnapping Christian children and destroying Christian homes.

    • Erik

      This story does not tell the truth. The kids were disciplined with physical punishment. That is illegal in Norway.

      • Robin Bolt

        You mean a spanking? Like 1-2 swats on the rear? And yet as I said, it is fine with the lot of you to allow Islam into your Countries? You are pathetic…. seriously perverted & your moral compass must be spinning in a circle, or pointed straight don’t…. Who thinks like this? >.<

        • John N

          Again, you think child abuse should be allowed because of … Muslims?

          Do you actually have any rational argument at all?

          • Zoran

            Stop calling reasonable discipline “child abuse” – that is a lie and you know it. You are deliberately misrepresenting what most loving patents do – stop it!

  • Ax2root

    The officially atheist USSR put Christians in insane asylums for lobotomies and chemical poisonings with meds.

    • John N

      And the USSR and Norway are connected in what way exactly?

      • Ax2root

        In this case the mindset is the similarity .

        • John N

          So you mean a democratic, secular, mostly christian nation with a conservative government has a mindset similar to a formerly communist one-party state with state imposed atheism?

          Could you explain this a bit?

          • Ax2root

            Things often start slowly…

            Austria was a 98% Catholic nation who was deluded by the charisma and promises of Hitler to come under his Nazi authority.

            Of course by the time they recognized his deceptions they had given up all their freedom rights.

          • John N

            Again, what is the connection between Nazi Germany, Stalin’s USSR and today’s Norway? Do you happen to have a conspiracy complex?

            Who exactly do you think is giving up his freedom rights in this case?

          • Ax2root

            There are only two mindsets….agree with Creator God Or the antichrist devil.

            If these Christians freedoms as parents and citizens were targeted for their faith then like the USSR and Hitler they suffer under a govt. mindset that is demonic

          • John N

            Oh I see. Which god do you have in mind exactly?

          • Ax2root

            ” where The Spirit of The Lord is there is liberty”

            The Standard of Truth regarding Liberty is The Creator God who created mankind.

          • John N

            I get it. You mean Odin.

            Although I Can’t Remember Him Speaking In All Caps All Of The Time.

          • Erik

            This story does not tell the truth. The kids were physically disiplined. That is illegal in Norway. That is why they wre taken. Stop with all thiz Nazi crap. Everyone is comparing every situation to Nazi Germany. Oh we can’t have hamburgers at scool lunch. That’s how it started in Nazi Germany.

          • Ax2root

            Sounds like Norway has the Nazi mindset problem.

            Not the family

          • Robin Bolt

            OK, dude, you’re not helping… I disagree with any side that is extreme, but that doesn’t mean I am some spineless drone…. I am a Norwegian, German, and Irish American, say what you will but I never had a slave, killed a Jew, taken Mexican and or Indian land, or killed anyone, nor took advantage of people…. and NO, I am not a drunk Irish, no more than I am the blue eyed devil, so…. there are far more sides to consider then just the religious sect, or those who believe I am a mere genetic mutation… yeah, we’re called normal healthy people who have faith without insisting we have a fancy “title” and or kiss the ring of the Pope, or other political figures…. and that is all the two extremes do… that being said, NORWAY has done well, although now that they are opened up to real religious freaks, they’d better put some legal binders in place, they will soon find out how far these groups invade their Government and way of life…. this is more important then anyone thinks….

          • Robin Bolt

            because PEOPLE LIKE YOU, do not allow open debate & the facts to come forth before defending a position…. in the end all normal people who are talking/debating & or questioning Norway, may agree it is proper, but YOU want us all to agree beforehand, so yes… it is fair to say you’re aaaaaaaaaaaaaa one of those people that ask all of us to follow blindly, NOW go sit down and stop playing the moral police & or bring info we all don’t already know that can help shed light on the situation…. tysm

          • Robin Bolt

            Again, you use wide sweeping statements, and yet when someone does the same you become a combative, oppressive, tightwad that had no consideration for others,… The point being is that, while Norway is still healthy, it must see how this can and does effect a balanced society if it continues to ignore real issues while focusing on one family, who thus far doesn’t appear to have actually done anything wrong…. so why the lack of information, and why are you defending it so much without a shred of evidence?

          • John N

            I think the lack of information makes your case for attacking the Norwegian government very conspicious. Awaiting evidence, I prefer to remain neutral.

  • Rebecca

    That principal sounds like a jealous hater.

  • downeybill

    bastards

  • MaxFenster

    Beating your children is not tolerated in Norway.