‘This Is Not Incest’: Colorado Man Leaves Wife for Sexual Relationship With Mother

West Ford-compressedAn Colorado man who found his biological mother three years ago after being put up for adoption as a child has left his wife to marry his mother and have children together.

“This is not incest. It is [Genetic Sexual Attraction] GSA,” Kim West, 51, told the outlet New Day. “We are like peas in a pod and meant to be together.”

“I know people will say we’re disgusting, that we should be able to control our feelings, but when you’re hit by a love so consuming you are willing to give up everything for it, you have to fight for it,” she said.

West, who is from the U.K., had given her son Ben Ford, now 32, up for adoption 30 years ago. In 2013, Ford sent his mother a letter after locating her and the two decided to meet up after speaking on the phone for some time.

However, West found herself having feelings for her son, as well as dreams about him. Confused, she researched the matter and concluded that she had GSA.

Ford soon announced that he had stopped having feelings for his wife, Victoria, and told her that he was leaving her to be with his mother, who he allegedly referred to as “mummy girlfriend.” They admitted engaging in sexual relations on several occasions and met up with another twosome who also claim that they have GSA so as to find support for their lifestyle and counsel.

GSA is defined as “sexual attraction between close relatives, such as siblings or half-siblings, a parent and offspring, or first and second cousins, who first meet as adults.”

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Ford and West now state that they are planning to marry and have children together. They remain unrepentant over their actions and were recently photographed for the cover of New Day, a national British newspaper.

“It’s a once in a lifetime chance and something Ben and I are not willing to walk away from,” West said defiantly.

As previously reported, a teenager in New Jersey announced last year that she planned to “marry” her biological father after the two met for the first time and had sexual relations following the admission of having feelings for each other.

“I didn’t regret it at all. I was happy for once in my life,” she stated. “We fell deeply in love.”

Some have spoken out against the slippery slope that occurs when God’s word is discarded for man’s opinion.

Last year, Dr. Michael Brown explained in an article for Charisma News that he had been asked to participate in a debate surrounding whether consensual adult incest should be legalized. Brown recalled that he was the only one on the panel that said that such relationships are never okay in the eyes of God.

“All the other participants, including a professor and a psychoanalyst, advocated for removing the laws against consensual adult incest,” he stated. “Are you surprised? But what’s the problem? Love is love [according to society], right? As long it’s consensual, who can say no to love?”

Brown stated that these developments are demonstrating the domino effect that results when the world rebels against God and His Master design for mankind.

“Those who have taken down the fence of marriage as God intended it have opened up a Pandora’s Box of possibilities,” he said, “none of them good.”

Leviticus 18:6-7 reads, “None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the Lord. The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.”


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  • Nadine Faber

    SICK

  • The Last Trump

    Yeah, we know. We’ve been predicting this for years. Slippery slope, remember?
    Soon to be a protected class in a city near you.
    And cake bakers and tee shirt makers who do not accept, endorse and participate shall lose their businesses and be fined into submission.
    Bizarro Amerika. Completely unrecognizable from her former glorious self. 🙁

    • Gott Mit Uns!

      How will the fundamentalist Christian cake baker know it’s an incestuous couple?

      • The Last Trump

        Oh, They ALWAYS make sure the Christians know, remember?
        (That way you get to be refused and receive your big windfall in court! Duh!)

        • Gott Mit Uns!

          Who is “they”?

          • The Last Trump

            ?
            Those who are out to receive their big windfalls!
            Seriously bud. Where’ve you been?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            How many incestuous couples have sued fundamentalist Christian cake bakers for refusing to bake them a wedding cake?

          • amhater

            How many does there have to be?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            How many does there have to be what?

          • The Last Trump

            Where?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            When?

          • The Last Trump

            Why?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            What?

          • The Last Trump

            Who?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            I think we have a breakthrough.

          • The Last Trump

            Yes, a slippery slope indeed!
            Glad you can finally see it.
            Welcome back to sanity and reason my friend! 🙂

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            Yes, and I have you to thank for it!

          • The Last Trump

            Aww, twern’t nothin’.
            But I do get THAT a lot!
            *blushing*

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            You rascal.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            One, would be a start.

          • Becky

            lol

          • acontraryview

            There would be no basis for such a law suit. Familial relationship is not a covered category in anti-discrimination laws.

        • acontraryview

          Please describe the “big windfalls” you mention. Who has gotten them and what was the size of the windfalls?

          Are you suggesting that those who win cases against someone who has violated the law should NOT be awarded damages?

    • acontraryview

      Oh, please. Stop it with the “slippery slope” thing. These two are not allowed to legally marry nor do they have any valid legal argument for why they should be allowed to legally married. This is no “slippery slope”.

      “And cake bakers and tee shirt makers who do not accept, endorse and participate shall lose their businesses and be fined into submission.”

      Spare me the hyperbole. None of that has happened.

      How is it that you claim to be Christian, but then engage in lying?

      • amhater

        There was a time when homosexuals were not allowed to legally marry, too……

        • acontraryview

          True. That prohibition, however, was not based upon rational, compelling, and legally valid reasons. The prohibition regarding close relatives marrying is based upon rational, compelling, and legally valid reasons. There is a fundamental difference.

          • amhater

            Anything can be rationalized, can become compelling and made legal. Stop defending perversion….

          • acontraryview

            A individual can certainly rationalize in their own mind whatever they choose to, but that is different than rationalizing something from a legal standpoint.

            What “perversion” is it you think I am defending?

          • amhater

            “A individual can certainly rationalize in their own mind whatever they choose to, but that is different than rationalizing something from a legal standpoint.”

            See what I mean…?

          • acontraryview

            No, I don’t see what you mean. What do you mean?

          • amhater

            “A individual can certainly rationalize in their own mind whatever they choose to, but that is different than rationalizing something from a legal standpoint.”

            You just rationalized…

          • acontraryview

            I think you would benefit from a better understanding of what it means to “rationalize”.

            What, in my statement, do you believe is a rationalization?

            I’ll ask again:

            What “perversion” is it you think I am defending?

          • amhater

            You tell me. It looks like you’re granting legislators and or justices a pass to do whatever they want.

            “What “perversion” is it you think I am defending?”

            again, you tell me…

        • Ax2root

          That was correct.

          Homosexuals STILL do not marry in Gods eyes.

          No matter what pagan laws say

          • acontraryview

            The only way for you to state that would certainty if is you are God. Are you God?

          • Ax2root

            I am a co heir with Christ who Believes His Word IS TRUTH

            Take your opposition up with HIM

          • acontraryview

            There is nothing in the Bible regarding whether God will or will not recognize marriages between two people of the same gender. That is what you have chosen to believe. “Believe” being the operative word. It is a matter of belief. That’s why it’s called “faith” and not “fact”.

          • Ax2root

            False.

            The Word of God defined marriage in Genesis and Jesus reaffirmed it in Matthew 19.

            God doesn’t bless what He opposes.

            There is no such thing as God blessed homo marriage

    • Becky

      What Christ said would happen thousands of years ago is unfolding before our eyes, yet fools willingly choose to remain blind.

    • Peter Leh

      While there may be no law to prohibit this relationship… there is no reason to forecast the law changing for equal protection for same relationship.

  • bowie1

    Of course it is incest…any closely related relationship is.

  • ComeOnPeople!

    Beyond my understanding is why humanity is so hell bent on disobeying the one who gave them life to the point of defying nature itself and worshiping the creature more then their Creator so much so that they would stoop to sexual relations with their mother or father, their children, with those of their same sex, with animals & let’s not forget group sex. Forget the slippery slope folks… CALL 911… we have fallen and refuse to get up!

    • bowie1

      In Calvinism it is called utter depravity…and it seems this is one illustration of that!

      • hytre64

        Elsewhere, it is called being dead in our trespasses and sins.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          Being dead to something means you no longer partake of it, it does not mean you continue in sin. Yeshua (Jesus) Said to the woman at His feet… Go and sin no more. Sad that people actually believe it’s ok to sin because the Messiah died. NO, that’s exactly why you shouldn’t, because when you sin( Transgress His instructions) a sacrifice is required to redeem you back to God and you crucify Jesus afresh.

          • acontraryview

            What sacrifice is required?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            The bible says if you sin after you know the truth that Jesus is crucified afresh and put to an open shame. Hebrews 6:6 . When we transgress God’s instructions (SIN) blood is required to redeem us, therefore if we sin , we must have a sacrifice (Jesus) . He is the mediator between is and God. He covers our sin in His blood.

          • acontraryview

            How, exactly, do you “crucify Jesus afresh”?

    • acontraryview

      “Beyond my understanding is why humanity is so hell bent on disobeying the one who gave them life”

      Not everyone shares your beliefs. Is that so hard to understand?

      How would allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their identified gender result in the destruction of God?

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Oh I assure you nothing shall destroy the Creator. Yet men who deny who they are destroy themselves. They spit in the face of the very God who created them by saying … we will deny who we are and would rather believe a lie. Apart from a belief in the one who created both male and female, let’s just use common reason. If a child is born with a penis… what is it? If a child is born with a vagina … what is it? Unless one is confused , they will know the answer. If one is confused , then they must only need to use a dictionary or an anatomy text book to come back to reality.

        • acontraryview

          “Oh I assure you nothing shall destroy the Creator.”

          I agree.

          “They spit in the face of the very God who created them by saying … we will deny who we are and would rather believe a lie.”

          How is it you are so certain that it is not God’s plan that they be transgender? isn’t it possible that if God creates all, then it is you who is spitting in God’s face by not accepting transgender people for who they are?

          “If a child is born with a penis… what is it? If a child is born with a vagina … what is it?”

          Biologically male and female, respectively. Did you have a point?

          “then they must only need to use a dictionary or an anatomy text book to come back to reality.”

          I’m assuming you have never met or spoken with someone who is transgender. That may be helpful to you in understanding. You seem quite quick to condemn with only one-sided information.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            God made male and female. He makes no mistakes. Anyone who denies their anatomy is believing a lie. God did not plan for anyone to be confused, He is not the author of confusion. He creates all as they are not as they imagine themselves to be. My point is reality says you are a male if you are born with a penis. God has created you to be such, not to lie to yourself and create a different gender then what you were born with.

  • Ronald Carter

    I wonder at the point of stories like this being posted. Why take the Jerry Springer type stories involving utterly bizarre human beings and then try to make it out to be endemic of some non-existent political movement?

    Is there some group of downtrodden people who wish they could marry their mothers who are suddenly going to come crawling out of the woodwork? Of course not.

    “We’ve been predicting this for years.” Well, you’ll be predicting it for a lot MORE years too, because it ain’t going to take off.

    • Luke Sulla

      It helps tin foil sales, that’s why.

  • http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

    The “Love is never wrong” brigade is licking their chops, waiting for the Grand Prize: legalization of pedophilia. Once it’s legal – a mere matter of a governor or president signing his name – they will say the same thing as they did about same-sex “marriage” and abortion: It’s LEGAL, you lost, shut up and deal with it. There’s no huge push for people wanting to commit incest, but the men wanting sexual access to boys, now that’s a big group, and anyone opposing them will be called “bigot” and “hater” and “Love is never wrong” will be heard from every rooftop. I’ve never heard a homosexual say that pedophilia is “wrong,” only that it’s “illegal.” And they desperately want that to change, and it will.

    • Ronald Carter

      Oh for heaven’s sake. No, nobody’s going to legalize pedophilia, it’s considered abuse because a child cannot consent! This is one solitary wacko who doesn’t have a “brigade” of any kind behind him, and if he did, they’d promptly be made fools of by anyone who draws breath.

      • http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

        I don’t expect gays to be honest about the agenda. I expect in my lifetime to see Jerry Sandusky released from prison and paid reparartions. Once a culture gets sicker, it doesn’t recover, it just gets worse, until finally the only “sin” is saying that anything is a sin.

        • Ronald Carter

          I can’t follow your thoughts, this story’s about incest and you start off by talking about pedophilia, now you’re going to after the gays. Can you just hurl abuse at one group at a time, it’s a little easier to follow.

          • Nidalap

            I know you probably didn’t intend for pedophiles to be one of the groups that you accused Dan of hurling abuse at, but it IS right in that list you ran… 🙂

          • Ronald Carter

            What, there’s a group of people trying to legitimize pedophilia? Are you talking about NAMBLA? And how many people take them seriously? Tell me ANYONE you know who supports NAMBLA.

          • Guest

            Even in NAMBLA’s hey day, an Australian undercover agent said the group had about 2,000 members world wide. Now they are all huddled in someone’s mom’s basement.

          • Ronald Carter

            And they can stay there. Abuse is abuse. Homosexuality between consenting adults is not abuse.

          • Nidalap

            Back in August of 2011, there was a conference held by the pedophile group B4U-ACT in Baltimore, Md. Around 50 individuals were in attendance, including a number of admitted pedophiles (or “minor-attracted persons” as they euphemistically prefer), a few self-described “gay activists” and several supportive mental-health professionals. World renowned “sexologist” Dr. Fred Berlin of Johns Hopkins University gave the keynote address, saying: “I want to completely support the goal of B4U-ACT.”

            Here are some highlights from the conference:

            Pedophiles are “unfairly stigmatized and demonized” by society.

            There was concern about “vice-laden diagnostic criteria” and “cultural baggage of wrongfulness.”

            “We are not required to interfere with or inhibit our child’s sexuality.”

            “Children are not inherently unable to consent” to sex with an adult.

            “In Western culture, sex is taken too seriously.”

            “Anglo-American standard on age of consent is new [and ‘Puritanical’]. In Europe it was always set at 10 or 12. Ages of consent beyond that are relatively new and very strange, especially for boys. They’ve always been able to have sex at any age.”

            An adult’s desire to have sex with children is “normative.”

            Our society should “maximize individual liberty. … We have a highly moralistic society that is not consistent with liberty.”

            “Assuming children are unable to consent lends itself to criminalization and stigmatization.”

            “These things are not black and white; there are various shades of gray.”

            A consensus belief by both speakers and pedophiles in attendance was that, because it vilifies MAPs, pedophilia should be removed as a mental disorder from the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), in the same manner homosexuality was removed in 1973.

            Dr. Berlin acknowledged that it was political activism, similar to the incrementalist strategy witnessed at the conference, rather than a scientific calculus that successfully led to the declassification of homosexuality as a mental disorder: The reason “homosexuality was taken out of DSM is that people didn’t want the government in the bedroom,” he said.

            The DSM ignores that pedophiles “have feelings of love and romance for children” in the same way adults love one another.

            “The majority of pedophiles are gentle and rational.”

            The DSM should “focus on the needs” of the pedophile, and should have “a minimal focus on social control,” rather than obsessing about the “need to protect children.”

            Self-descried “gay activist” and speaker Jacob Breslow said that children can properly be “the object of our attraction.” He further objectified children, suggesting that pedophiles needn’t gain consent from a child to have sex with “it” any more than we need consent from a shoe to wear it. He then used graphic, slang language to favorably describe the act of climaxing (ejaculating) “on or with” a child. No one in attendance objected to this explicit depiction of child sexual assault. There was even laughter.

            (In fairness, Dr. Berlin did later tell Mr. Breslow that his words might “anger” some people and that he [Berlin] is categorically opposed to adult-child sex with “pre-pubescent” children. When asked about the propriety of adult-child sex with pubescent children, Dr. Berlin did not provide a clear answer.)

            http :// www;wnd;com/2011/08/339797/

            Just take out the spaces and replace the semicolons with periods…

          • The Last Trump

            Oh now, don’t go around using actual fact and logic.
            That kind of talk isn’t appreciated by Christian website stalking trolls.
            Please try to stick with vague generalities and unprovable nonsense.
            Thanks! 😉

          • Nidalap

            Truth…the ultimate no-no in political correctness. 🙂

          • Ronald Carter

            You can actually BE a Christian and not hate on homosexuals.

          • gogo0

            not on this message board, where even catholics aren’t christian

          • gogo0

            the only fact is that 50 sickos had a meeting, what else does it mean to you?

          • Ronald Carter

            Yeah, and? It is still the abuse of a minor. Nothing will change that. Children need to be protected. They can stamp their feet all they like.

          • Guest

            So 50 people out of many millions? Got it. Thank goodness Christians don’t stereotype.

          • Nidalap

            Well now, the numbers themselves aren’t the only thing to consider. You also have to look at their place in the overall society. 50 can be as good as 50k if they’re in positions of authority.
            How many Nazis were in 1930-40’s Germany in comparison to how many millions? No big deal, right? 🙂

          • Guest

            well the meeting was over 5 years ago, what have you seen?

            No one there has any special authority and a meeting of a support group for pedophiles that is for helping them resist their impulses.

            One of their complaints is ages of sexual consent have gone up in liberal nations, not down. now many conservative ones still use the biblical ages of 12 for girls and 13 for boys.

          • Nidalap

            Well, we’ve seen GLSEN founder Kevin Jennings appointed as the “Safe Schools Czar”, and sexual perversion foisted on our children. This includes teaching them sexual techniques.
            Can’t go too many days now without seeing more stories about the homosexual lifestyle being promoted to the kids with no opting out allowed. Ah, freedom…

          • Guest

            Yeah it really crimps the style of some if the kids know too much other than what they tell em.

            A disturbing fact continues to surface in sex abuse research,… the second best predictor [of abuse] is conservative religiosity, accompanied by a parental belief in traditional female-male roles. This means that if you want to know which children are most likely to be sexually abused by their father, the second most significant clue is whether or not the parents belong to a conservative religious group with traditional role beliefs and rigid sexual attitudes.
            – Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches by Carolyn Holderread Heggen ©1993

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Over 300 million people in America alone, and they drew a whopping 50 of them. You can find more people at a raggare convention.

          • gogo0

            westboro baptist church has about 50 members, so by your logic that means their agenda is accepted by the christian community.

            EDIT: oops, I forgot that their agenda, to spread god’s loving message that fags will burn in hell for eternity, is indeed the same as a sizable chunk of the self-styled “christian” community.

          • Nidalap

            Actually, the message is that Hell can be avoided by gaining forgiveness for their sins. That would mean ALL of them, not just the sexually themed ones! 🙂

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Why do you expect that? Is there a mainstream movement to legalize pederasty?

        • acontraryview

          “I don’t expect gays to be honest about the agenda.”

          What agenda are you referring to?

      • Nidalap

        Consent? That may be the case in this culture, but not in others. And, if you hadn’t noticed, we’re importing those other cultures as fast as we can…

        • Ronald Carter

          Well then, you should be actively pushing for separation of church and state, so nobody’s faith can override the law’s definition of abuse and consent. Although any cultures that move here are still subject to our laws like anyone else, so I’m not sure where your concerns stem from.

          • TallZeke

            Who were you before you got banned from here?

            History can repeat itself.

          • Ronald Carter

            If anyone wants to ban me they can, although they’d need a good reason. I’m following the rules. Who were YOU before you got banned from here?

          • Josey

            oh yes, that is proven by the undocumented aliens that come here and break our laws only to be let go, wake up and get a clue, or they are sent back only to return and commit more crimes.

          • Ronald Carter

            That’s just a little bit paranoid, Josey.

      • hytre64

        You have never heard of NAMBLA – the North American Man Boy Love Association?

        • Ronald Carter

          Yeah, a group that is taken seriously by precisely nobody.

        • acontraryview

          Have you never heard of the KKK. Must be representative of all white people, huh?

          • hytre64

            Just as NAMBLA does not reflect all homosexuals and the KKK does not represent all WASPS, both also show that there exists those who do believe in the positions espoused by the KKK and NAMBLA, which was my point.

    • gogo0

      wow, youre as batsh*t crazy as afchief, an earlier poster, was. good to have you posting here, the blind hypocrisy was getting boring and your truly backwards thinking is spicing things up again

  • Enrique Baldwin Del Castillo

    I see a lot of confution, he was married that means he didn’t love his wife when he married, now, he is in ” love ” with his mother who didn’t have the nesessary love to fight for him when he need her the most, but now she is having sex with him without been married, and where was and is his Father ???

    • http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

      Yes, indeed, a lot of confution. I hate it when things get confuted, it’s so confuting.

  • Josey

    These fools don’t know what love is, it isn’t just sex or attraction, staying married to someone is a life time decision, from richer to poorer, through all the difficult times, this man has already decided to leave present wife for some sick incestial love he thinks he feels for his long lost mother who abandoned him at birth, our world is sin sick and there is only one solution to that, Jesus Christ.

  • amhater

    This is not ‘love’ it’s ‘lust’ – big difference….

    • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

      According to GEN.3:16, only women has a deep emotional need to be loved by a husband/lover = to fall in love. Men just fall in lust, n not in love. Men can only love their wife/gf like loving their neighbor as themselves, even though they may also become possessive of their “lover”/wife/gf.

      • amhater

        Men can love and women can lust too, don’t you know that…?

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          No, men don’t really fall in love, emotionally, like women do.
          When a woman has fallen in love with or found her Mr. Right/lover/husband/bf, she won’t lust for another man. B4, yes.

          • amhater

            So, women are the only ones who can love and lust and men only know how to lust…. Where are you getting your information, from a bad relationship you were previously in????

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Yes, that’s why most players/casanovas, polygamists, harem-owners n serial rapists+murderers r men, n seldom women.
            ……. In general, men r born as evil sex-maniacs. When there’s a breakdown of law n order, often many women/girls would be raped n forced to become sex slaves, eg during racial riots, in ISIS Syria/Iraq n “comfort” women/girls of Japanese soldiers during WW2.

          • amhater

            you need to get out more….

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Maybe, u need to stop getting out more n committing sexual immoral acts…

            REV.22: = Jesus Testifies to the Churches

            12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”[f]

            14 Blessed are those who do His commandments,[g] that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 But[h] outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

          • amhater

            I bought a laptop from a pawn shop a long time ago that wasn’t totally wiped clean. On there, I found a document where apparently someone was upset at God claiming that He couldn’t fix their marriage. Almost immediately I got to thinking, “maybe God didn’t tell you to marry that person.”

            People want to make their own decisions independently of God – then when things fall apart, they want to blame God or someone else for the consequences. But what they almost never do is accept responsibility for acting independently.

            Adam blamed Eve and Eve blamed the serpent. The blame-game has been going on since there were people on the planet. It’s like it’s easier to blame someone else, a group of people or God for the mess that our own rebellion has caused rather than confess our sins, receive God’s forgiveness and seek His wisdom on future matters….

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            How do we seek His wisdom on future matters n marriage matters.?
            .
            Seems, u seek His wisdom outside of the Word of God, eg by stating that in general, men also fall deeply in love like women n that women also immorally lust at others like men.
            …….R u a feminist sympathizer.? Aren’t ‘women r from Venus n men r from Mars’.?

          • amhater

            Don’t forget that a woman was made from a man.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Why did God make Eve out of Adam’s rib.? = to fill his loneliness n be his helpmate/assistant. Help him to do what.? = to tend n keep(= care for) the earth.
            .
            All these good reasons for God’s creation came to naught when Adam n Eve disobeyed God, obeyed/listened to Satan(= the talking serpent/snake in disguise) n ate the forbidden fruit/apple. Hence, today we hv fierce dominant feministic wives n industrial pollution+global warming/climate change.

          • Ax2root

            The feminist mindset and spirit is an antichrist / anti Creator mindset.

            Feminism comes only to ” steal, kill and destroy” because its author is satan.

            Feminism hates males and females who are all made in the image and likeness of God.

            Feminism opposes The Word of God in all things.

          • Pollyanna

            Expand your horizons more into real life and general society (and get out of media examples, like everything that you’re posting, which is either some news item or celebrity gossip, etc.). There are millions of men worldwide who, clearly, love their wives–also remembering that love is action, duty, being there, providing, etc. So your hypothesis doesn’t hold up. Of course I understand what you’re saying about the problem of lust in men vs. the more emotional connection women seem to more easily make, but we could break that down, too (it would just take a little longer than I want to spend right now). But as others here have already noted, there are plenty of women also capable of emotionally detached lust the same as men can be, and many men have feelings they deny in the face of social expectations (ill-conceived notions of “putting another notch in the belt,” “sowing his wild-oats,” and other disgusting expressions, etc.).

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            GEN.2:24 = 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
            _ _ _ _ _ _ _

            Sexual liberation n casual free-sex began in the liberal Blue States of USA in the 1960s Hippie-movement.
            …….Naive young teen-girls who lose their virginity to evil players/casanovas will often become sluts n start to sleep around in immoral lust(= a copy of their ex-first-lover), even though they still hv the emotional need to love just one lover/husband. .

          • Pollyanna

            I’m sorry but your reply really doesn’t make a lot of sense in response to my comment. It isn’t strongly connected, so it just sounds kind of weird, you know? We have to be careful about that. I’m a believer as well, so I’m not in disagreement with you on the scriptures, just on some of your own personal opinions (there are plenty of examples in scripture where both men & women lusted. And really, it doesn’t take much effort to type out complete words like “and” and “have,” rather than putting “n” and “hv” in their place. That’s just lazy & silly.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            In a perfect or unfallen or non-sinful/evil world, a girl would lose her virginity to her husband/soulmate/Mr Right n then they will gradually become alike in character n temperament = become one flesh.
            …….So, in this imperfect world, a naive n loving girl who lose her virginity to a lustful n heartless player/casanova will gradually become one flesh with him, ie will also become a lustful n heartless slut/player, even though she still has the emotional need(not the fleshly/carnal need) to fall in love with a lover/soulmate/husband/Mr Right. Many Western girls r like this = like damaged goods.
            ……. A lustful n heartless player/casanova does not hv the emotional need to fall in love with a wife/Ms Right, even though he may eventually get married.
            .
            GEN.3:16 = Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.

          • acontraryview

            Matthew 19:11-12

            But He said to them, “Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12″For there are eunuchs who were born that way from their mother’s womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it.”

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            MATT.19: = Marriage and Divorce

            19 Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these sayings, that He departed from Galilee and came to the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them there.

            3 The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

            4 And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made[a] them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’[b] 5 and
            said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be
            joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?[c] 6 So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

            7 They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

            8 He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality,[d] and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

            10 His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is better not to marry.”

            Jesus Teaches on Celibacy

            11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus …….

            _ _ _ _ _ _ _

            Fyi, eunuchs don’t hv penises, either was castrated or born without. GEN.2 & 3 is not talking about eunuchs who could not consummate a marriage or hv sex with their wife = cannot become one flesh.

            During the time of Jesus Christ, Jewish men had all the advantages over their submissive wives who were treated like property bc of the abuses of Moses Law, eg allowing for divorce for various reasons.
            …….So, when Jesus criticized these abuses n told the Jews that they could not simply divorce their wives, even His apostles/disciples complained that it was better not to marry if they could not simply divorce their wives = stucked with their wives for life n could no longer threaten them with divorce.
            …….Jesus replied to His apostles/disciples that some of those among them who were unmarried or widowed would accept being remaining unmarried or ‘eunuchs’ for the sake of the kingdom of heaven, eg the widower Paul.

          • acontraryview

            “Fyi, eunuchs don’t hv penises, either was castrated or born without.”

            FYI – that was not the case in Biblical times. In Biblical times eunuch also referred to a man who did not have sexual desire for women – i.e. homosexual. They were highly prized as they were perfect for watching over women. And, as Jesus clearly points out, they were born that way.

            If eunuchs don’t have penises, then you are saying that Paul didn’t have a penis. Which of course would make no sense.

          • Ax2root

            False.

            Demonic mindset and evil spirits have no gender.

            They can inhabit either male or female.

            BOTH genders need to be born again and ” be renewed in the spirit of their minds”

            However, there is a difference in the male and female souls.

            Adam and Eve showed us the human nature difference.

            Adam knowingly disobeyed God.

            Eve was deluded and disobeyed God.

            Both were called ADAM and EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE

            and when a person is born again in the spirit there is NO GENDER DIFFERENCE.

            NEITHER male nor female need to be disobedient OR deluded

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Cite, please.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Rihanna n Chris Brown

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, those are two musicians. I’ve heard of them; so what? I don’t see how reciting their names proves that men “don’t really fall in love.”

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Chris Brown beat up Rihanna bc he fell in love with her.?

          • hytre64

            A Biblical citation would have been appropriate, rather than two selected individuals, one of whom has definite anger management issues.

            If men don’t really fall in love, then WHY are we as husbands instructed to love our wives as Christ loved the Church? (Eph 5:25)

      • hytre64

        If men just fall in lust, then why is it written, “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,” ?

        • Texan Independence .

          He means the tingly sensation, the hormones that many mistake for “love”. True love is what you feel for friends, family (non-incestual), etc. it’s not just whoever you have the biggest hormonal crush on. That’s actually most of America’s problems, they were raised by Disney and the “love at first sight” garbage, which is really “lust at first sight”. hormones are not love, and I think the guy you were replying to understands the first half of the picture (that lust is not love), but doesn’t understand that men also need emotional support, and that love is not lust, but men are capable of it. He may be withdrawn from his own emotions.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Like every living organism(= virus, bacteria, plants, animals, etc), both men n women hv the biological/hormonal n sexual urge to procreate or ‘go forth n multiply’.
            …….Men hv the inborn evil tendency to procreate/hv sex indiscriminately with every Tina, Diana n Harriet, but women r very particular/discriminate about which MAN(= one) they desire to procreate/mate with, ie not with every Tom, Dikk n Harry.

          • Rachel Ramiro

            You are so right, Texas Independence! Well said!!

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          Only women hv been born with this curse of falling in love with their Mr Right/soulmate/ /husband/bf/lover; …….”Your desire shall be for your husband, And he shall rule over you.”(GEN.3:16)
          …….Hence, Rihanna did not leave her physically abusive bf/lover, Chris Brown, for quite a long while until the abuse became a public scandal or bad PR for her.

          Both men n women can love their neighbor as themselves n love God with all their heart, soul n mind. This is a different love, compared to GEN.3:16.

          Also, giving birth in pain is also a curse for women, compared to painless birth for animals.

          • hytre64

            Love is a curse?

            No, a woman’s desire (not love) is for her husband. She will have a longing or a craving for her husband, to the point where he will exercise authority over her (Gen 3:16)

            So, just as a young man might lust after a woman, a young woman would desire the man. Neither of which is truly love.

            What does Biblical Love look like? The same type that was described in the verse I quoted above?

            Let us look in 1 Corinthians 13, “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.”

            Both men and women are capable of this.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            In comparison, men’s desire is not always for their wife/lover(= mostly sexual desires), n their wife/lover does not always rule over them, emotionally.
            .
            Most unmarried men immorally lust after various women, just to hv sex with them, n not to marry them(= pump n dump), whereas most unmarried women morally desire/lust after men, esp film/pop stars, with the pure intention to marry them n hv their babies, eg millions of ‘crazy’ n love-struck female fans.

          • Ax2root

            The verse you first quoted Genesis 3:16 was part of the CURSE.

            Here it is in context

            14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

            15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

            The Punishment of Mankind
            16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

            17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

            18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;…”

            We who are Christians are redeemed from the curse in Jesus The Christ. Women and men are no longer under the curse when born again ….so women also have the BIBLICAL RIGHT not to have pain in childbirth.

            Most Christians do not receive their Sozo salivation Biblical rights BY FAITH…often not even knowing they have these God given rights of salvation given Abu Jesus Christ on Calvary when He PROCLAIMED ” PAID IN FULL” and gave up His spirit on the cross

          • Ax2root

            Do you find that many Christians don’t understand that Genesis 3:16 was part of the lawfully proclaimed by God CURSE proclaimed on the earth and mankind ?

            Genesis 3:16 is WHY JESUS NEEDED TO DIE FOR MANKIND to redeem us from that curse that Adam had chosen in choosing sat am over God as his lord.

            Christian religion is so often upside down, no wonder it’s often unattractive to an already upside down world

      • Ax2root

        Genesis 3:16 was UNDER THE CURSE.

        Christians are no longer under the curse once they are born again in Jesus The Christ

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          Christian women still give birth to their babies in pain = they r still under the curse of GEN.3:16 = In pain you shall bring forth children;

          All the descendants of Adam r under a different curse, ie GEN.2:17 = “for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” = temporal n spiritual death = bound for hell when they die.
          ……. Christians r no longer under this curse once they r born-again in Jesus the Christ/Messiah/Savior. (JOHN.3:16, GAL.2:16)

          • Ax2root

            ” MY PEOPLE perish for lack of knowledge”

            CHRISTIANS are NO LONGER under the curse in ANY way. , including pain in childbirth,

            Most don’t know it or receive it by faith.

            Just as many blessings that belong to us are not being utilized by faith.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            R u deluded.? I haven’t heard of Christian mothers giving birth without pain thru faith. Pls consult the female adult members in yr family or a Christian family about childbirth pain.
            .
            .
            .

            So, u or other faithful Christians do not need to slog for a living, suffer from old age n physical death.?

            GEN.3: = 17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:

            “Cursed is the ground for your sake;
            In toil you shall eat of it
            All the days of your life.
            18 Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
            And you shall eat the herb of the field.
            19 In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
            Till you return to the ground,
            For out of it you were taken;
            For dust you are,
            And to dust you shall return.”

          • Ax2root

            Yes,mi have heard of women giving birth without pain.

            And we are redeemed from the curse of the law, Jesus Christ being made a curse for us that we live in the blessing of Abraham with the promise of The Spirit by faith,”

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            R u aware of epidural analgesic injection during childbirth n “painless” Caesarean-section surgical birth.?
            Hv u heard of palliative care for terminal cancer patients with morphine.?
            R those part of faith.?

          • Ax2root

            Every medicine has a risk vs benefit…epidural injections affect the infant. Nurses have noted epidural S interfering with breastfeeding sucking,

            Doctors work on the side of life…so I am not against medicine and prescriptions since they can keep people alive until their faith is grown enough to receive the healing Jesus Christ gave them on the cross when ” by his stripe we are healed”

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Again, …….so, u or other faithful Christians do not need to slog for a living, suffer from old age n physical death as per the curse of GEN.3:17-19.?

          • Ax2root

            There is nothing new under the sun … Caleb and JOSHUA faced the same giants as the unbelieving 10

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            1COR.13:2 = And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

          • Ax2root

            What does that have to do with Caleb and JOSHUA facing the same Giants as the other ten who didn’t believe ?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            U r not loving God n yr neighbor by believing in falsehood n rejecting His truths about His curses in GEN.3:14-19 & 2:24.

            PROV.3: = 3 Let not mercy and truth forsake you;
            Bind them around your neck,
            Write them on the tablet of your heart,
            4 And so find favor and high esteem
            In the sight of God and man.

          • Ax2root

            I am speaking the GOOD NEWS thT in Jesus Christ we are REDEEMED from the curse of the law, Jesus being made a curse for us that we live in the blessing of Abraham with the promise of the Spirit by faith.

            THAT IS GOOD NEWS,!!!

            We Christians have a BETTER covenant based on BETTER promises ( bible Hebrews)
            We are DEAD to sin and alive unto Christ.

            We are are DEAD to the law and married to another Jesus the Christ.

            This is GOOD NEWS

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            GAL.3:13 = Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),…
            .
            .
            .
            Fyi, the Law, eg the Ten Commandments of EXO.20:1-17, was only given to the world by God thru Moses n the Jews at around 1500BC. The curse of God upon Adam n Eve occurred at around 4000BC when the Law was not yet given.
            …….So, Christ did not redeem humans from the curse of God that was upon Adam n Eve, ie men having to slog for a living, to suffer old age n physical death, n women having to fall in love with their husbands/lover/bf yet get bullied by them emotionally n suffer pain during childbirth.

            The curse of the Law condemns all humans to be bound for hell when they die bc all humans hv inherited Adam’s Original Sin = born to sin, involuntarily with their hearts n minds, n voluntarily with their hands n feet.(ROM.5:12 & 3:23, LEV.17:11 & HEB.9:22-23)
            …….The moment we hv immoral hate, anger, lust, greed, selfishness, jealousy, fear, doubt, etc in our hearts n minds, we r already bound 4 hell, eg MATT.5:27-30. It is not just the intentional breaking of the Law that causes us to be bound for hell, eg committed murder, adultery, stealing, perjury/lying/cheating, etc.

            The Jews n Muslims still falsely think that they will be saved from hell(= bound for heaven) by just believing in God/Allah n keeping Moses Law/Muhammad(Sharia) Law = they do not need Jesus the Christ/Messiah/Savior for their salvation.
            …….The Jews n Muslims do not accept that the Messiah/Mahdi had come in the flesh(cf: 1JOHN.4:1-2) at around 30AD. They falsely think that their Messiah/Mahdi will be coming to earth(= 1st Coming) to “save” them from their enemies. Cf: the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ to earth at 1THESS.4:16 & 1COR.15:52-53.

          • Ax2root

            ” by his stripe ye ARE HEALED”

            Finished at Calvarys cross

            Enjoy the blessing

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Thru faith in Jesus Christ, Christians hv only been released from the curse of spiritual death of GEN.2:17) or being sent to hell when they die.

            JOHN.3:16 = For
            God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever
            believes in Him should not perish(in hell) but have everlasting life(in the kingdom of heaven).

          • Ax2root

            SOZO / salvation means deliverance, preservation, healing, soundness and wholeness in EVERY AREA of life.

            Healing isn’t needed in perfect heaven.

            ” by His stripe ye WERE healed”

            ” by his stripe you ARE healed”

            1 ( 2?) Peter 2:24

            Isaiah 53

  • Guest

    And, of course, just sexual attraction for a person isn’t justification for being able to become a spouse to that particular person. If that were the case then many married couples could use that to simultaneously marry other people to whom they are sexual attracted.

    Marriage equality was about letting all people do what some already could do – license a spousal relationship with a man or woman. Since it is just letting all people do what others could already do it doesn’t open any doors to this kind of thing.

    Answer to these two – there are already many people that both of them can’t legally wed, and their pool of potential candidates for a spouse isn’t reduced significantly by removing close relatives. Lots of people love those that aren’t available – find someone else.

    • Josey

      Or stay with present wife, get some help.

      • Guest

        Well yeah that too. Its a UK tabloid, I take it all as seriously as a Jerry Springer show.

  • Guest

    This is the slipper slope begun. When the gaystapo was told this would happen, they mocked the notion. Now it is reality. Pedophilia is next to follow unless this entire debacle is stopped.

    • Gott Mit Uns!

      It won’t happen because President Cruz will round up all gays and lesbians and place them in Cruz death camps.

      • Guest

        Why are you rambling about Ted Cruz? Stay on topic.

        • The Last Trump

          Classic troll tactic.
          Plus, they suffer from ADD.
          Trolls. Whadda ya gonna do! 🙂

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            Not really. I was merely pointing out the absurdity of his comment.

          • The Last Trump

            Who’s?

          • Gott Mit Uns!

            Now, cut that out!

          • Guest

            My guess is they have a small list of posts and just keep cutting and pasting random ones. Of course they never make sense. 🙂

  • acontraryview

    i’m pretty sure they do not meet the legal criteria for entering into civil marriage.

    • http://www.moonbatdan.com/ Dan T

      Change the laws. Love is never wrong. We were horrible people to discriminate against homosexuals, ALL discrimination is wrong, period. You can’t deny others a right that you possess.

      • acontraryview

        “We were horrible people to discriminate against homosexuals”

        Agreed, and I appreciate your admitting it.

        “ALL discrimination is wrong, period.”

        Disagree.

        “You can’t deny others a right that you possess.”

        Of course you can, provided you have rational, compelling, and legally valid reasons for doing so.

        • gogo0

          c’mon man, you know that everything is as simple as “100% good” or “100% bad” when you accept jesus! a middle ground would require time for thought and consideration, time better spent praying for the apocalypse to come and punish everyone that has different beliefs

      • Ronald Carter

        And that, my friend, is the finest example of a slippery slope argument I can possibly imagine. What you do for one group, you have to do for every group – as though “people who want to marry their mothers” even has enough members to constitute a group…

      • hytre64

        You forgot to put in your tags, so that people could understand your post.

  • Becky

    Legalization of pederasty is where this is headed. The scriptures clearly teach that in Sodom and Gomorrah even the youngest child was involved in sexual relations with adults…men. It was “normal” to them, but not to God, obviously.

  • rodb

    Who cares? No ones business but theirs.

  • WorldGoneCrazy

    Back when I was developing my game on the basketball courts in the hood, we had a name for dudes like this: I cannot say it as a Christian, but the initials are MF. We never really thought anyone was sick enough to do something like that, but this guy is literally one.

  • Paul Hoskins

    The so-called progressives told us it was just fine to have gay scoutmasters. Nothing to fear, folks, let your little boy spend the weekends in the woods with a troop of boys, what could possibly go wrong there? So we all know how this slippery slope works. This is 2016, for the secular world, the only sacred thing is sex. If a man wants a boy, he has the right to get the kind of sex he wants. Pedophilia has always been the goal. Normalize the abnormal until finally people just throw their hands up and say, “Hey, if it turns you on, it’s good! Go for it!” The addlebrained parents who are trendy enough to play along with their “transgender” child aren’t going to say no to a pedophile.

    • Jalapeno

      Those slippery slope arguments get old.

      What makes you think that people who want adults to be able to consent with other adults are okay with pedophilia?

      What makes you think that the standard of consent wouldn’t still have conflicts with things like family members?

      • Quantz

        “Those slippery slope arguments get old.”
        Anyone forcing you to read those arguments?
        Why do you people visit blogs where you know people are going to post things you disagree with it? No point in upsetting yourselves, there’s thousands of gay blogs where you can all agree on everything and just upvote each other the whole livelong day.
        “Christians say things I don’t like – that upsets me! Waaaahhhh! Mommy!”

        • Jalapeno

          Ah, I see.

          You just like echo chambers.

          I’m not saying that reading them bothers me or offends me. I’m saying that people should have grown out of them by now.

          • Quantz

            We haven’t.

          • Jalapeno

            Standing up for your belief in fallacies?

            Interesting.

          • Quantz

            Have a nice day.

          • Jalapeno

            What makes you think I’m gay?

            Of course..yes, many Christians care what gay people think. They’re generally the mature ones.

          • Jalapeno

            Well, isn’t that what you just did?

            And tried to call me gay?

      • hytre64

        Ignoring the pedophilia argument, we are seeing the slippery slope in progress.

        “We only want the right to marry – after all it is Equality” – LGBT protesters before 2010

        “Who are you to deny us service for our weddings” – LGBT protesters 2014

        “We only want the right to marry – after all it is Equality” – Homosexual “Thruple’s wanting three-some “marriages” 2015

        “We only want the right to marry – after all it is Equality” – Adults Incest Partners 2016

        • Jalapeno

          Slippery slope arguments are really only valid when you can show that it will inevitably lead to the bad situation.

          Saying that we should give gay people equal rights is a slippery slope to things like discrimination laws because we have precedence for that slope.

          Saying that removal of a gender restriction in a contract leads to the removal of a family restriction doesn’t have precedence though.

          • hytre64

            You mean like breaking down the walls of morality leading to more immorality?

  • Gena B

    Just a guess, but their ‘attraction’ for each other was probably such a deep seeded need each one had for that mother/son relationship that they both lost it and turned that bond into lust. Maybe this would be a good one for Dr. Phil. I feel sorry for this man’s wife, how do you tell your children daddy and grandma are boyfriend/girlfriend? Awful.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Post-christian culture is worse than the ancient Canaan and has much lower morality than even pagan cultures. The deterioration of non-believers is much faster than anticipated. Bible-literate Christian population is the only hope for sanity of mankind. Man cannot become even civilized apart from the Holy Bible.

    • ComeOnPeople!

      YES! Study to show yourself approved unto God a workman that needs not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. If we know truth we will not be fooled by lies. It is truth that makes a man free. But sadly as the Christian artist Keith Green once penned… His word sits there upon our desks, but we love our books & magazines the best, we prefer the light of tour TV’s, we love the world & are avoiding God.

  • robertzaccour

    First gays, then transies, now incesties…

  • mrpoohead

    51 – babies not so likely. Am surprised this wasn’t in the National Enquirer.

  • mrpoohead

    Bibles for Iraq – why?

  • Emmanuel

    LOL, please refrain from using bible verses. These people want nothing to do with Biblical principles. I stopped reading about 3 paragraphs in, I hope they are not claiming to be christians.

  • Peter Leh

    at some point a parent has to ask ” Am i being selfish or looking out for what is best for my kid”

  • posercom

    The mother Is from the UK, or course. The Satanic Empire of the British have been exporting their devil worship to US for centuries now. It is becoming more and more blatant and it amazes me that some people still have their eyes side shut. Occult Forces rule this world and they have been coming out of the closet big time lately.

    • http://thebenevolentthou.com/ Max T. Furr, author

      Did you mean, “eyes wide shut?” Enjoyed that movie did you?

  • TheBottomline4This

    DISGUSTING, just like all the other abnormal sexual choices some make.

  • http://www.thirdangelmessage.com Willem Toerien

    ** Sarcasm On **
    But this is okay, isn’t it? Doesn’t Christ say that we in the new covenant have to just love God and love our neighbors? They are no longer under the law, but under grace! Christ is the end of the law, and the law was nailed to his cross. Jesus, redeemed us from the law by fulfilling the law. He kept it so that we don’t have to.
    ** Sarcasm Off **

    As sad as it is, most Christians actually have a very low opinion for the law of God, denouncing people that call them to repent and keep the law of God as legalists. Thus, I find it very interesting that so many Christians condemns this behavior.

    • ComeOnPeople!

      Amen! Sad that Paul knowing the law inside and out was misunderstood by those who knew the law very little. When he is speaking of God’s laws being done away , he is speaking of the law of sin and death or sometimes Paul is referring to man made laws (oral law) that was added to God’s laws. The law of sin & death was that sin (transgress his law) brought forth death and needed blood to redeem us back to Him. Yeshua (Jesus) nailed the law of sin and death to the cross, not the law of God but the law that declared if you sin you die. Now when we sin we have an advocate, who just like the scarifies in the Torah takes our place and redeems us with blood. The law of sin and death required a sacrifice to redeem us back to God. I thank God for His perfect law and also His perfect plan. Both in effect, both calling us back to relationship with him.

  • Ax2root

    It’s incest and they are in demonic bondage.

    Any other issues?

  • http://thebenevolentthou.com/ Max T. Furr, author

    Just another instance of someone’s actions stepping on theological toes. In fact, such things should be of no interest at all to anyone. While sexual relations between close biological relatives is quite dangerous for any potential offspring, it is still none of anyone else’s business. The most that should happen is for the medical community to educate them about the genetic problems that could (and often does) occur.

    If Christians believe such attractions and bondings are sinful, however, then by all means don’t do it even when you are attracted. Live the way you believe and be happy, and let others do the same.