Kasich Condemns Mississippi’s Religious Freedom Law: ‘What the [Expletive] Are We Doing?’

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NEW YORK — Republican presidential candidate John Kasich condemned Mississippi’s religious freedom law this week, just a day after telling reporters that he would not have signed North Carolina’s “bathroom bill” requiring residents to use the restroom that correlates with their biological gender in government buildings.

“I read about this thing they did in Mississippi, where apparently you can deny somebody service because they’re gay,” Kasich stated during a town hall event in New York, which was hosted by CNN. “What the H*ll are we doing in this country?”

“I mean, look, I may not appreciate a certain lifestyle or even approve of it, but it doesn’t mean I’ve got to go write a law and try to figure out how to have another wedge issue,” he said.

As previously reported, just last month, Kasich had backtracked remarks that some interpreted as suggesting that businesses should have to agree to forms of participation in events that conflict with their religious convictions.

“[I]f they ask you to participate in something you really don’t like, that’s a whole other issue. Okay? Another issue,” he said during the Fox presidential debate in Detroit on March 3. “If you go to a photographer to take pictures at your wedding and he says, ‘I’d rather not do it,’ find another photographer. Don’t sue them in court.”

Kasich said at that time that if people of faith are being forced to participate in something that conflicts with their convictions, then laws should be crafted to protect them—if necessary.

“At the end of the day, if somebody’s being pressured to participate in something that is against their deeply held religious beliefs, then we’re going to have to think about dealing with a law,” Kasich outlined. “But you know what? I’d rather people figure this out without having to put another law on the books and have more arguments in this country.”

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Kasich’s previous “if you’re a cupcake maker and somebody wants a cupcake, make them a cupcake” remarks had drawn criticism, as some stated that he was making false assertions as no businesses are declining to serve homosexuals—that current legal battles are over personal participation in an event, not providing general service.

The Mississippi bill that Kasich condemned on Monday likewise refers only to forms of participation in marital events, and does not permit the refusal of service in general. It prohibits the government from punishing those who pass up particular events for religious reasons.

“The state government shall not take any discriminatory action against a person wholly or partially on the basis that the person has provided or declined to provide … services, accommodations, facilities, goods, or privileges for a purpose related to the solemnization, formation, celebration, or recognition of any marriage, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction,” the Protecting Freedom of Conscience from Government Discrimination Act reads in part.

As previously reported, the bill also bans the government from punishing those whose policies require use of locker and restrooms consistent with their biological gender.

On Sunday, Kasich told CBS’ “Face the Nation” that he wouldn’t have signed North Carolina’s “bathroom bill” into law either.

“I believe that religious institutions ought to be protected and be able to be in a position of where they can live out their deeply held religious purposes. But when you get beyond that, it gets to be a tricky issue. And tricky is not the right word, but it can become a contentious issue,” he said.

“Why do we have to write a law every time we turn around in this country? Can’t we figure out just how to get along a little bit better and respect one another? I mean that’s where I think we ought to be. Everybody chill out. Get over it if you have a disagreement with somebody,” Kasich said. “Unless there’s something that pops up, I’m not inclined to sign anything.”

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  • Amos Moses

    “And tricky is not the right word, but it can become a contentious issue,” he said.”

    The only “tricky” one is you, Kasich

  • Gott Mit Uns!

    I believe it was last year that some fundamentalist Christians were screaming persecution because some Mississippi businesses exercised their freedoms by placing signage in their shop windows that reads “We Don’t Discriminate – If You’re Buying, We’re Selling.”

    • ironnat

      And your point?????

      • Gott Mit Uns!


        • Slidellman4life

          Then it is a non-sequitur.

  • Nidalap

    Well, that shows why the Establishment likes him so much. And why he’s so very low in the polls…

    • Scott

      I am a “Republican”, however, whenever Kasich opens his mouth , Hillary and Bernie become a lot more attractive.

      • Ax2root

        It’s pitiful when Commie 1 and Commie 2 candidates look better.

        But it does show the ugliness of the hypocrisy of Kasich

        • Scott

          What worries me, is if he is picked to run as VEEP.

          • Ax2root

            Whoever picks him ISINT worthy of the Presidency.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    All the wrong people in GOP… Americans should never have applied racial equality upon sexual sins. Equality alone is another sick tyranny without morality. Sin cannot be a right. People have rights to morality and a clear conscience. Sin is the slavery. Americans need the Holy Bible for the truth, human rights, liberty, equality, and justice for everyone.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    If a business denies you service, you are free to start your own business in competition with that business and serve yourself. If denying service to you is part of a real problem, your business will do well. However how is it that once you run a business you are no longer free?

    • Josey

      And Springsteen is running a business of selling his songs but he backs out of said contract and that is ok because it goes with the sodomite agenda and there are clubs that ban women and and vice versa, they aren’t losing their businesses, there are restaurants that ban you if you are not rich or don’t wear certain clothing, there are mosques who ban homosexuals and yet they stay open w/out a criticism against them, etc. etc… it all boils down to the world’s hatred of Jesus Christ so it is no surprise to me that if they hate the King, they will also hate his servants.

      • TheKingOfRhye

        Bruce isn’t the first person to ever cancel a concert, you know. I just don’t get how people are acting like these are similar situations here…..asking things like “if he can cancel a concert because of his beliefs, then why cant refuse to bake gays a cake for their wedding?”, or something like that. It’s just a totally different situation.

        As for mosques banning homosexuals….okay, fine. Aren’t there some Christian churches that do that as well? Or at least they certainly aren’t welcoming of them, wouldn’t perform a wedding for them, et cetera….that’s a CHURCH we’re talking about here, not a public business. They have that right, and I think they should.

    • Ax2root

      Freedom of assembly

      Is in the Law of The Land….The Constitution

  • TheKingOfRhye

    “Can’t we figure out just how to get along a little bit better and respect one another?”

    Hey, now there’s a thought.

  • Josey

    Kasich, tell that to the homosexuals who are the ones suing and are the ones forcing their agenda down ppl’s throats. Can’t we all get along? Not when ppl are having this sodomite agenda thrown at them, I don’t think you Kasich understand what is going on, you are asleep.

    • Ronald Carter

      It is quite right and correct that they sue, and stand up against religious discrimination.

      • Kelly Samuelson

        What’s so difficult about finding a place that has no convictions about serving them? And it’s not general service, it is the actual participation in it, like making a wedding cake

        • Ronald Carter

          There is nothing difficult about it, but it’s irelevant. If you provide a service to the public you don’t get to pick and choose who you serve based on whether you think what they do in their private life is icky.

          • Kelly Samuelson

            You’re not refusing service because you think it’s ‘icky’. You are refusing service because you have strong personal moral convictions about it. If it was a Muslim couple they asked to bake a cake for them, the Muslim couple would refuse too, but I guarantee they wouldn’t take get taken to court over it. Christians are treated terribly nowadays, but everybody turns a blind eye and expects us to bend to the world. I’m sorry, that’s not what we’re called to do.

          • Scott

            The “Gay couple”, would probably apologize to the “Muslims” for offending their “God”. Then, offer to compensate the “Muslims” for creating any “ill-will”.

          • Ronald Carter

            First of all it’s not a “gay couple”, it’s a gay couple. Secondly, they’re not “Muslims”, they are Muslims. Thirdly, no, a gay couple being shut down by Muslims would be just as likely to stand up for themselves. You are making this all about faith, and 99.9% of gay people don’t care what religion you are, which is so interesting when you take so much interest in THEM, specifically what they do in the bedroom.

          • Scott

            I am trying to make this about “common sense”, something you seem to be lacking. I do not care what they do in their “bedroom” – after all, they are the ones with the problem, not me. By the way, I do not take half as much “interest in them”, as you seem to do about “quotation marks”.

          • Moxie Miscellany

            Making it about common sense, by coming up with fantasy scenarios & strawmen?

          • Ronald Carter

            If you have strong personal moral convictions about it then you shouldn’t be in that business. If people are ugly or have bad breath or if they’re rude or if they have unruly children that run roughshod on the premises then you still deal with them, so what gives you the right to pick on homosexuals?

            The law is the law. If you break it you pay the penalty, whether you’re Christian or Muslim.

          • Kelly Samuelson

            Whoa, hold up! No one said anything about picking on homosexuals. Having bad breath, being ugly, etc, are not sins. It is a sin for a man and a man or woman and woman to be together. It isn’t how God made it, and it isn’t natural. You get upset at us for living out Gods law, we are just followers. If you have an issue with it, take it up with God.
            You say the law is the law, where is the law protecting Christians from being able to live out their faith free from persecution?

          • Ronald Carter

            Your faith has taught you that it’s a sin for two men or two women to be together. But there are many more of us who do not believe that. So what you’re in fact doing is taking your church teachings and extending them to the world outside your church and enforcing them on us. Your church might frown on same sex relationships, but you’re not in your church, you’re in the public SERVING the public, and if gay marriage is legal, you’ve got no recourse to deny service.

          • Kelly Samuelson

            Our country was founded on the Christian religion and morals. Look how far we have fallen since we’ve turned our backs on God. If same sex marriage was right to begin with, we wouldn’t have had a big debate over it to begin with and you wouldn’t have needed a bill to make it legal in the first place. Our founding fathers would frown on what we’ve turned this country into. We used to be great when we had morals, now we’re just a joke.

          • Ronald Carter

            I think you better do a little more research:

            First Amendment:
            “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
            prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
            speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
            assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

            “The Government of the United States of America is not, in
            any sense founded on the Christian religion” – John Adams

            “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” – U.S. Constitution, article VI, section III

            “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” – Thomas Jefferson

            America was founded as a secular nation based on “The Age of Reason” principles.

            Also, I’m really having trouble understanding your statement that if same sex marriage was right to begin with, we wouldn’t have had a big debate over it. The reason we had a big debate is that so many people felt that discriminating was wrong.

          • Kelly Samuelson

            Ok, first, as far as the first amendment goes, I never said anything about restricting any other religions.

            Second, I would love for you to cite the sources where you got your quotes from. That way I could do my own research and see if the cite you visited is actually credible.

            Third, the reason same-sex marriage was such a big debate is because so many people had moral issues with it. If everybody was with only their sex, the human population wouldn’t exsist. There’s a reason we have man and woman.

          • Moxie Miscellany

            I think I can answer part of your post.
            -The quote “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, part of the common law” is from a letter from Jefferson to Dr. Thomas Cooper Monticello.
            -The quote “The Government of the United States of America is not, in
            any sense founded on the Christian religion” is from the Treaty of Tripoli, penned & signed by John Adams (and approved by many of the founders).
            -The bit about the “no religious test” actually gives the source: the US Constitution, Article VI, section III. That’s actually something most people learn in middle school or junior high, when they first start learning about the Constitution.

            These are all historical documents, many on display in museums in the US (including my hometown of Philadelphia). They are thus easily found nearly anywhere online, and many (such as the Treaty of Tripoli) even have photos available from various history sites. Historical revisionism does nobody any favours.

          • Moxie Miscellany

            Also, interracial marriage was a big debate in the late 50s & early 60s for the exact same reason. People even used Bible quotes to oppose it!

            The “if everybody was gay, we’d go extinct” argument falls apart because 1) homosexuals are always going to be a small minority, 2) you could say that “if everybody was male, we’d go extinct,” which by your logic would mean that being male (or female, or infertile, or post-menopausal, or just preferring not to have children) is morally wrong.

            And pointing to a previous argument made in this thread: homosexuality occurs in thousands of species, so it is – by definition – “natural.” It tends to occur more in populations that are in danger of exceeding their environment’s resources… which makes sense when you realise that more homosexuals exist in major cities & densely-populated areas. Being gay is not as common as being straight, but that doesn’t make it any less “natural” than having grey eyes or having a preference for redheads.

          • Kelly Samuelson

            And btw, look at the laws we have in place, and then look at what the bible teaches. Not the Old Testament, the New Testament when Jesus has already been the sacrifice for our sins. The law we have (or had) are very similar to what the bible teaches as right and wrong

      • Scott

        Let them go into the “Muslim” neighborhoods and attempt to “ply their trade”. They will then find out what “real discrimination” is.

    • Scott

      What is hilarious, is the fact that Kasich feels that he should be taken seriously when he only gets 10-15% of his party’s vote.

  • Jack Fough

    It is fine to pass laws to protect sexual deviates but it is lunacy to pass laws to protect Christians. Do I have that right per John Kasich? Remember, he’s the guy that does not read the Bible to figure out his thoughts. I will pass on voting for this hypocrite, thank you.. Folks, we are headed in the wrong direction at lightening speed!

  • Scott

    Kasich, would make a good “VEEP” choice for either Bernie or Hillary.

  • wickerwhite

    Another establishment candidate unfit for office, any office.

  • Ax2root

    As someone said..Kasich is the Rodney King of politics.


    • Scott

      Closer, to Rodney Dangerfield.

  • Dianne

    Another LUKEWARM CINO( Christian In Name Only) that Jesus will spew out of His mouth if he does not REPENT before it is too late.
    Early in the campaign Kasich said that he would attend a wedding of a gay ( homosexual) relative. That told me all I needed to know about his morals. He does not read nor obey God’s Holy Words. I will pray for him. Maybe we will hear someday that he has become “born again” and is ” hot” and not ” lukewarm ” for Christ. That will be worth celebrating. Can I get an Amen?

    • Kelly Samuelson