Ohio Air Force Base Removes Bible From POW/MIA Display Following Complaint

POW Flag-compressedDAYTON, Ohio — An Air Force base in Ohio has removed a Bible from a display honoring prisoners of war (POW) and those missing in action (MIA) following a complaint from a church-state separation group.

According to reports, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) recently wrote to officials at the Wright-Patterson Air Force base after the organization allegedly received more than 30 complaints about the display. MRFF claims that 10 of those who complained identified as Christian.

The display at issue was a “missing man table” that included a place setting, a rose, a candle and a Bible, along with a framed Bible verse. According to the National League of POW/MIA Families, the Bible is traditionally present at missing man tables, and “represents the strength gained through faith to sustain us and those lost from our country, founded as one nation under God.”

But in its letter to the Wright-Patterson Air Force base, MRFF asserted that the table should be moved to the base chapel or that it should be more inclusive of other religions.

“This is simply an example where the Air Force should have a policy that makes it absolutely clear that nobody’s religious affiliation is on [exclusive] display,” President Mikey Weinstein told the Air Force Times.

Days later, the base chose to remove the Bible from the missing man table.

“We thoroughly assessed this particular situation and made the determination to remove the Bible,” Marie Vanover, spokesperson for Wright-Patterson, told reporters. “Mutual respect is an essential part of the Air Force culture and we must ensure we create an environment in which people can realize their highest potential, regardless of one’s personal religious or other beliefs.”

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However, while Weinstein was pleased with the development, the move concerned Ohio Congressman Mike Turner. He wrote a letter to Gen. Ellen Pawlikowski, commander of the Air Force Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson.

“It’s a very dangerous precedent to have a group that has an issue campaign to effect policy on a government installation merely by complaining,” Turner, who also serves on the House Armed Services Committee, told the Dayton Daily News. “Their voice should not be any greater than anyone else’s. This is an issue of national policy, not an issue of individual affront or concern, and it needs to be handled in that manner.”

He said that he feared that the removal would become a trend.

“It is simply unacceptable that personnel removed the Bible from the display, and I am concerned that similar efforts to restrict religious freedom may be made at other military installations,” Turner stated.

As previously reported, a Bible was similarly removed from a missing man table at a Veteran’s Administration clinic in Akron following a complaint from MRFF in February. A Bible was also removed from a display at a Veteran’s facility in Youngstown as well.

Weinstein has vowed to “attack aggressively” any similar displays that he believes violate the “separation of church and state.”


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  • bowie1

    If they remove the Bible they should also remove secular displays. Fair is fair against these scrooges.

    • gogo0

      a “secular display” would be a display showing no religious content. what do you imagine would need to be removed?

      • bowie1

        Perhaps something from Darwin, Dawkins, etc. to name a few that should then not also be accepted for display if a request would be made.

        • gogo0

          not sure what darwin’s scientific theory has to do with POW/MIA and why anyone would want that included, but it is as religious as the theory of general relativity. that is, not at all, so you dont need to worry yourself thinking about it

          • bowie1

            I’m not saying it is religious but that it might reflect the views of a few soldiers who are not religious. There is a principal involved here.

    • Becky

      Preferring no religion over religion is a violation of the constitution.

      • gogo0

        where does it say that in the constitution?

      • Cady555

        Neutrality is not preference.

      • Frank Dorka

        It’s just not equality, it’s Christian equality. Others do not matter.

    • Cady555

      Secular = not pertaining to or connected with religion.

      The plate is secular. The chair is secular. The silverware, flower and tablecloth are secular. The table itself is secular. The floor the table is sitting on is secular. All of these things combine in this setting to honor missing soldiers.

      By adding a shout out to one preferred religion, the secular display becomes partisan and ceases to honor all soldiers.

      Newsflash – secular displays which make no statement about religion are fine. They had better be. We are surrounded by things that make no statement about a preferred religious viewpoint.

  • Josey

    According to reports, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) recently wrote to officials at the Wright-Patterson Air Force base after the organization allegedly received more than 30 complaints about the display. MRFF claims that 10 of those who complained identified as Christian.

    You all see a pattern here? 30 complaints, yeah right sounds made up to me, 10 who identify as Christian? Satan loves division, I can see where his plan is going and how the government like the good little slaves that they are to him are doing these things to set Christian against Christian through their lies. No Christ follower would ever have complained about this Bible being there let alone asked for it’s removal. This is all being set up from the race divisions to the LGBT lifestyle to the illegal immigration problem to the Christian, this is how they get a civil war started and how they turn brother against brother, sister against sister, neighbors against neighbors by divisions and hate, no wonder our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ said at the end ppl’s love will grow cold and they will be hateful, they are stirring the pot up, I am not going to be part of their hate. Then as all that is going on, they will send in their false savior to bring in his “false peace and straighten it all out”, the snare will grab millions unawares. A house divided cannot stand.

    • Cady555

      There are a large number of Christians who are aware that other religious beliefs exist and who are capable of empathy.

      These christians know that they would not feel honored if someone purported to honor all soldiers with a religious tribute to buddhism or hinduism. They would feel excluded.

      Thus, they understand that a christian display with christian symbols do not honor non christian soldiers. They honor the spirit of no man left behind. They understand that a tribute to all soldiers should not include icons that specifically exclude some.

      Christians are capable of kindness, empathy and humility.

      • Josey

        The tradition of setting a separate table in honor of our prisoners of war and missing comrades has been in place since the end of the Vietnam War. The manner in which this table is decorated is full of special symbols to help us remember our brothers and sisters in arms.

        This display to honor the fallen in no way promotes one faith over another or dishonors those who didn’t believe in the Bible or have faith in Christ which I doubt there were few unbelievers back then, all were issued a Bible with their gear, not to mention wherever they are in heaven or hell they could care less about it except if they are in hell the are reliving every time they were told the truth and kicking themselves for rejecting the truth, it’s ridiculous that after all these years no one had an issue with it which is just one more thing to show how close we are to Christ Jesus appearance.
        You better get right with Him before the door is shut 4ever for once the door is shut by God Himself no one outside can come in just as in the days of Noah when he finished the ark and had the animal pairs and his family on board, God shut the door, not Noah, it is going to happen again, very soon, the signs are all around us daily and those who do not know Christ and the forgiveness He offers need to seek out someone who does know Christ or just ask God to open your eyes to the truth of the gospel. What do you have to lose? If it’s not true then asking won’t hurt you but are you willing to gamble with eternity for what you choose will determine whether you will spend eternity with Christ and His Saints and the hosts of heaven or spend eternity in hell where the worm never dies and there is no rest from the torture, it will go on 4ever so what do you have to lose by asking God to show you if He is real or not. I was all alone in my home when God revealed Himself to me, took two weeks as God the Holy Spirit began to reveal to me the truth, then I made my decision and He has been faithful to me ever since, through every trial, circumstance and victories, praise His Holy Name! I hope and pray you will at least ask God to reveal Himself to you, you are not going to be any worse off than you are now, actually you will be much better off when God answers or are you such a coward you will not ask?

        • Cady555

          Josey said “There were few unbelievers back then”. Seriously?

          Jews fought for this nation in the Revolution and in every war since. There are dozens of non christian religions represented in our armed forces today.

          Your pascals wager rant, in addition to needing a grammar check and paragraph breaks, merely confirms that the bible is placed on the Missing Man Table for the purpose using the sacrifice of others to push and promote your religious beliefs.

          You should be ashamed.

          • Bob Johnson

            By the way MFFR President Mikey Weinstein U. S. Air Force, JAG ret, is a jew.

      • Slidellman4life

        Are you a Christian?

        • Cady555

          Would that invalidate my conclusion that most christians are capable of kindness, empathy and humility?

          • Slidellman4life

            Answer the question.

          • Frank Dorka

            “most Christians are capable of kindness, empathy and humility”

            One little example would help your cause.

  • Patrick Van Der Ven

    America is a diverse and multicultural society. There would have been Christians, Agnostics, Atheists, Jewish, Muslims and a raft of others who were missing, and the placement of a bible would not be appropriate at all as it diminishes their role in the defence of the USA. Furthermore what bible would it be: the protestant version 66 books, the catholic version 73 books, the Greek Orthodox version that has 78 books or the Ethiopian bible that has 81 books?

    I myself believe that such a blatantly religious book would be more at home in a Chapel or Church. Further, it my belief that under such terrible situations: the family and the state which you are defending hold a much greater impact on the human psyche than a book.

    • bowie1

      How about all of the above? All those books could fit on a small shelf.

      • gogo0

        there are far more religions than that! the solution is for all POW/MIA displays to be set in libraries, where the very many books of fables are already stocked

    • Josey

      I swear my allegiance to the Lamb of God. Not to a flag, not to myself or the constitution, etc. and believe me I was very patriotic to this Country. It is a new day for me, I thank God for opening my eyes this morning while reading this article. Glory to His Name alone! I’m just passing through 🙂 I choose obedience to God and Jesus over man and their traditions. The bible is the inspired words of God through His prophets and apostles, it is a love letter to Christians but regardless whether it is on display or not, it is in the child of God’s heart for He has written it on our hearts the day we became born again so removing a physical bible for whatever reason satan provokes ppl to cite won’t take the words of God out of His children’s hearts.

      • Patrick Van Der Ven

        Yes of course the bible is the divine word of God. How do we know, well if was not for dear old Constantine ordering that there be one book that all Christians used so we weren’t at each other’s throat, then we would not have the bible. What has changed? Nothing!!! It took the Council of Carthage, Hippo and Rome to decide what was Holy writ. There was not a list left by the Apostles or Christ, so we take what is divinely inspired by tradition. So it is four centuries after Christ that the first bible is commissioned by Pope Damascus 382 AD..
        This was based on the council of men. We believe concepts that aren’t biblically sound, such as the divinity of Christ. We believed that Jesus brought salvation and yet it existed prior to Christ. We like to believe old Nick (Satan) fell from heaven, yet in Job he is an accuser, a prosecutor for the Crown or State a loyal servant of God. .

        An angelic fall does not occur as future even in the bible Rev 12:7. No biblical prophecy has ever been fulfilled, sorry. They were written post the fact. Also the gospels were first written in Aramaic the translate poorly into Koine Greek and there a no extant copies of the original gospels. Furthermore, we know there is four hundred thousand variant readings of the gospels. Really divinely inspire methinks no. The bible is just as much a political document as a religious document.

        I know Evangelicals commit treason every day and seek a system to impose ac system of belief which stymies free thought and education. Evangelicals have supported everything from slavery, miscegenation laws, segregation and have persued a programme of gross discrimination a bigotry. For us, we Christians believe would not recognise a church that has so enmeshed itself in right wing politics it lost sight of the love and compassion of Christ.

        • Slidellman4life

          “We Christians?”

          Who is “we?”

          Your open contempt and heresy makes you nothing but a liar. Period.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Oh please. When I say we Christians: I mean those that live speak and are one with Christ. I am not an heretic. Please show me my heresy? This will be interesting.

          • Slidellman4life

            You are correct: You are not a heretic. You were never a Christian to begin with:

            I myself believe that such a blatantly religious book would be more at home in a Chapel or Church. Further, it my belief that under such terrible situations: the family and the state which you are defending hold a much greater impact on the human psyche than a book.

            America has always been a secular state. You swear true allegiance to the constitution of the USA not to God or the bible.

            We believe concepts that aren’t biblically sound, such as the divinity of Christ.

            We like to believe old Nick (Satan) fell from heaven, yet in Job he is an accuser, a prosecutor for the Crown or State a loyal servant of God. .

            (I never believed that, because the Bible never said it.)

            No biblical prophecy has ever been fulfilled, sorry. They were written post the fact.

            I know Evangelicals commit treason every day and seek a system to impose ac system of belief which stymies free thought and education. Evangelicals have supported everything from slavery, miscegenation laws, segregation and have persued a programme of gross discrimination a bigotry.

            Now, again, who is “we?” You wouldn’t know Jesus Christ if He walked up behind you and tapped you on the shoulder.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            I most certainly am a Christian. Okay I will play ball as you as in America. We believe so much based on tradition. The divinity of Jesus, an Angelic fall and prophecy. Neither Jesus nor the apostles left us with a set of authorised books for the new Testament. What Jesus left behind was the Church and apostolic succession. You have accused now prove that I am heretic and not a Christian. PS How good is your Koine Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew?

          • Slidellman4life

            You most certainly are a liar. Get thee behind me, Satan, and I command you in almighty name of Jesus Christ to stop!

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Clap, clap ,clap. Now from the theatrics and seguing how about you prove you calumnies. Again you call me a liar, but that is an accusation, and who is the accuser Satan? I am asking you to prove two things biblically. Chapter and verse. 1. The divinity of Christ. 2. That there has been a Satanic fall. 3. Evangelical Protestantism is not a political movement.

          • Slidellman4life

            You proved it with your own words. I shall waste no more of my time with such a liar and deceiver as you, but I will also warn others.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            I have asked you to prove something, you can’t You have laid the charge that I have spoken falsely the onus now is on you to prove your contention :). Obviously you can’t. So keep on posting false accusations. Here as you are an Evangelical Protestant, I will make good on my claims they are an apostasy and an heresy.

            Evangelical Protestantism is an heresy and is an apostate church built
            on a mound of lies. It is a 19th construct . There are but two
            references in the bible to being born again or above and one is purely a
            conversation between Christ and Nicodemus, referring Nicodemus himself
            and not salvation for all of humankind. Have you ever wondered if it
            was so imperative why it is not mentioned anywhere else in the bible
            save Peter. That it was not an ideology of the Church until a
            marvellous reinterpretation of scripture?

            The problem arises from
            the word play between Jesus and Nicodemus and the Greek ανωΘεν where
            Christ is speaking of above and Nicodemus is believing it to mean to
            mean being reborn from the womb. Further to add weight to this The New
            revised Standard version of the bible prefer the “above” translation.

            Evangelical
            Protestantism uses the phrase more as to polarise Christianity based
            upon and erroneous translation of scripture. In fact if anything it is
            politicisation of ring wing American Christianity.
            Haiven, in
            speaking of “born-agains”, refers to them as having “a type of
            intolerance”. She says, “The instant and thoughtless panaceas of
            born-again Christianity will be seen as a vast sanctuary by millions of
            North Americans.” She asks, “Is this sanctuary really a recruitment camp
            for right-wing movements? It would be naive to think otherwise.

            Doctrinally
            being ‘born again’ is unsound and heretical at best and Satanic at
            worst: there is no emphasis on being born again during the apostolic
            evangelisation of the earthy Church. Catholic commentator John F.
            McHugh notes, “Rebirth, and the commencement of this new life, are said
            to come about ἐξ ὕδατος καὶ πνεύματος, of water and spirit. This phrase
            (without the article), refers to a rebirth which the early Church
            regarded as taking place through baptism (1 Pet 1.3, 23; Tit 3.5.In Acts
            2:28 Peter specifically links Baptism to the ‘forgiveness of sins,’
            “Repent and be baptised, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ
            for the forgiveness of sins . . .” Almost identical words are used by
            Jesus at the Last Supper stating that His blood of the New Covenant will
            be shed “for the forgiveness of sins” (Matt 26:28). These are also the
            exact words professed in the Nicene Creed, “I confess one baptism for
            the forgiveness of sins.

            The reformation of the 16th Century saw
            this verse as meaning full water baptism, total immersion. Let’s look
            at a few other stances on the matter:The Lutheran Church holds that it
            “thoroughly teaches that we are cleansed of our sins and born again and
            renewed in Holy Baptism by the Holy Ghost. But she also teaches that
            whoever is baptised must, though daily contrition and repentance,
            drown The Old Adam so that daily a new man come forth and arise who
            walks before God in righteousness and purity forever. She teaches that
            whoever lives in sins after his baptism has again lost the grace of
            baptism.” If we look at Calvinism it is total refutation of being born
            again “In Reformed theology, “regeneration precedes faith.”[34] Samuel
            Storms writes that “Calvinists insist that the sole cause of
            regeneration or being born again is the will of God. God first
            sovereignly and efficaciously regenerates, and only in consequence of
            that do we act. Therefore, the individual is passive in regeneration,
            neither preparing himself nor making himself receptive to what God will
            do. Regeneration is a change wrought in us by God, not an autonomous act
            performed by us for ourselves”.

            The concept of being “born again”
            only gains currency in Methodism, the “new birth is necessary for
            salvation because it marks the move toward holiness. That comes with
            faith. John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist Church, held that the
            New Birth “is that great change which God works in the soul when he
            brings it into life, when he raises it from the death of sin to the life
            of righteousness” (Works, vol. 2, pp. 193–194).The Articles of
            Religion, in Article XVII—Of Baptism, state that baptism is a “sign of
            regeneration or the new birth.” The Methodist Visitor in describing this
            doctrine, admonishes individuals: “‘Ye must be born again.’ Yield to
            God that He may perform this work in and for you. Admit Him to your
            heart. ‘Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.’

            The
            quotation from the Gospel of John has raised some questions about the
            meaning and authenticity of the phrase “born again”. In the chapter,
            Nicodemus is puzzled and asks Jesus what he means by saying that “Ye
            must be born again”. He questions: “How can a man re-enter his mother’s
            womb?” Scholar Bart D. Ehrman says that this confusion is because in
            Greek (the language of the gospel) the word again is ambiguous. It might
            mean again or a second time or from above, which would explain
            Nicodemus’ confusion. However, the Jews at Jesus’ time were actually
            speaking Aramaic, in which language there would not have been a double
            meaning. Ehrman says that this raises questions about the authenticity
            of the dialogue, the meaning of the words, and, therefore, the use of
            the phrase

            A 19th-century source notes that the phrase was not
            mentioned by the other Evangelists, nor by the Apostles except Peter.
            “It was not regarded by any of the Evangelists but John of sufficient
            importance to record.” And, without John, “we should hardly have known
            that it was necessary for one to be born again.” This suggests that “the
            text and context was meant to apply to Nicodemus particularly, and not
            to the world.” Otherwise, it would have been mentioned more often

          • Slidellman4life

            Dude, you don’t know me at all. I am a Christian, a Baptist, saved by grace through faith.

            You come in here and question my Lord’s divinity just for starters and then call yourself a Christian when even Ray Charles, who is both blind and dead, can see you are full of demons, coming into a Christian website to spread chaos and confusion just like your father, the devil himself would.

            It bothers me the mods haven’t awakened to this and banned you. But you don’t belong here. Go back to Joe My God and leave us all alone.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            I know nothing about you. I can tell a lot about you. 1. Firstly you have poor comprehension skills: my statement was that the divinity of Christ is accepted via tradition; it can not be proven biblically. I am happy for you to attempt that and prove me wrong. Secondly, there is no proof that Satan fell biblcally. I am happy to for you to prove me wrong. Thirdly, and most cogent you can not prove any of your contentions. That is a problem more so with you then me. You have said that I am full of demons all you have done is accuse. It is not my fault you can not find error with what i said. Alas I can not put in what God did not.

            In fact it was you who opened a dialogue with me. Not I with you. A baptist is an Evangelical Protestant by the way. I would advise in future if want to make an accusation have some proof. Stop being offensive and calling people demon possessed when you can not defend the most and agents of anti-christs. I was showing how to present an argument, you know with proof and sources. So when you prove what you are saying then come back. Obviously the gift of discerning spirits is something the Lord did not give you.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            In your response I loved how you avoided an angelic revolution in heaven was a future event. Or are you saying that bible is incorrect.

            Revelation 12:7-8Revised Standard Version (RSV)

            Michael Defeats the Dragon

            7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.

          • Slidellman4life

            You are stupid as well as a liar if you think I am going to waste my time having a theological discussion with you.

            Go away.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Thank you that is all I have been asking. I either wanted to prove what you were saying or leave me alone. I think with the “You are stupid as well as a liar if you think I am going to waste my time having a theological discussion with you. I think when you call someone stupid and liar, and can not defend your own position mean you are looking at your own reflexion in the mirror. So lovely to meet you.

          • Slidellman4life

            You did not get the memo: I do not have to defend my God, Jesus or the Bible against people such as yourself. All I need to do is let people know anyone who says the things you have and then describe themselves as a Christian is most certainly not.

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Oh so because I believe Jesus is God I am dangerous based upon the authority of the magisterium ? Also because I rely upon the apostolic credentials of Holy Mother Church and avoid sola scriptura I am not a Christian. Aufweisersehen Schatz. You lost you credibility a long time ago.

        • Josey

          You give way too much credit to Constantine, nothing is impossible with God and He certainly doesn’t need a man to give us His word, if He chooses to use a man or woman to do so, that is His prerogative as Creator of us all! From what I’ve read about Constantine is that he had a vision which could very well have been satan and not Christ, the devil can appear as an angel of light and also Constantine it sounds to me began the roman catholic church which persecuted true believers and killed them. Jesus said only an evil generation seeks for a sign. And from what I’ve read about Constantine is he became involved in idolatry. I don’t really know much more about him than that, sounds like he was more interested in power and politics than being Christ centered in which we as children of God know we are only passing thru this life for God’s purposes but our true home is Heaven which soon we will be there with Christ, at least those that show their love for Him thru their obedience to HIm alone. And the Bible was not written by Constantine but was the inspired words of God thru His prophets and apostles.
          John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. This is referring to Christ Jesus, Yeshua. He was and is and is to come…hallelujah…Come quickly Lord Jesus, Come. Jesus also tells phillip when you’ve seen me you have seen the Father and vice versa, glory to God!

    • TallZeke

      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • The Last Trump

    Oh NO! Not complaints!!?
    What a joke.
    Since when did “complaints” mean anything in a free country!? Where, once upon a time, there actually was freedom of speech and freedom of religious expression.
    And people were free to GIVE offense and to BE offended. And everybody just sucked it up.
    Or else it really isn’t freedom, is it?
    Welcome to tyranny folks.

    • Josey

      yes and satan is working overtime on stirring up divisions even between the saved and unsaved but Christ died for all, this is the NWO which will hasten our Lord’s return for His bride, can’t wait! Glory to God! But in the meantime freely we have receive, freely we give. I will not give into this hate spirit against anyone any longer, I repent and I will speak the truth in God’s word but for the right reasons that my prayers for the lost be found in Christ but not to condemn the homosexual, atheist, abortionist, etc. They have to give their own account before God and it’s not my place in Christ to force them to believe, that is a choice like myself that they have to make on their own but tho. I hate sin even my own sin, I will not hate the sinner or say anything against them ever again but will pray for them, I will bless and not curse. I ask those who I’ve been harsh against for forgiveness, know I am praying for you, Jesus loves you and wants to set you free just as He did for me and continues to work in me on a daily basis.
      Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
      Romans 5:8 “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      Offense, freedom, etc. have any meaning only when people are moral.

  • Semp

    Right now there is a table and bookstand set up at the entrance of our local public library, with a big sign, WHAT THE BIBLE IS ALL ABOUT, with two people at the table. They’re Jehovah’s Witnesses. Hey, I’m fine with that, but I wonder if some poor little atheist hasn’t already sent a red alert to the ACLU (Addelbrained Criminal Liars’ Union) about this attempt to set up a theocracy (sarc).

    • Cady555

      If all religious views have the same access to space at the library, its fine.

  • Reason2012

    There is no such thing as “separation of church and state” in the Constitution. That phrase came from the time a Pastor wrote a letter to Jefferson expressing his fears that Jefferson would in some way restrict religious freedoms. In response to these fears, Thomas Jefferson wrote a letter back to indicate that he would in no way restrict the freedom of religious expression because he saw a wall of separation between church and state.

    So actually the phrase means the exact opposite of what a few claim it means: it re-iterates the First Amendment, that government shall make no laws prohibiting the free exercise of religious expression.

    First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;

    And yet those who reject God demand no one dare exercise their religious beliefs except where given permission. A violation of the First Amendment.

    Congress/government also cannot make a law prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

    A Post Office can decide to, for example, put up God Bless America displays and no one can force them not to.

    A Post Office can decide NOT to put up God Bless America displays and no one can force them to.

    But in a Christian nation, the populace will be personally choosing to put up God Bless America displays often and mention God often. Those that do not like this can start voting in a large number of people that believe differently and hope it changes.

    That’s liberty.
    That’s freedom.
    That’s the Constitution many died to create.
    That’s the United States of America.

    Start understanding the Constitution, the First Amendment and the lie about “separation to church and state” and take back our right to honor and worship God as people in positions of leadership personally choose and see fit to on a case by case basis.

    • Josey

      God bless you reason, He certainly has given you a gift of intelligence and common sense and a way of explaining things in a way that all can understand, now whether they choose to believe what you say is up to them but I want you to know I appreciate your patience, perseverance in continuing to explain this. They have taken the constitution and twisted it to fit their hate against Christ and all that would live godly in Him. We are witnessing the beginnings of many sorrows that Christ referred to in Matthew 24 and the door is closing quickly for people to decide in whom they will believe in. As for me I know in whom I believe in!
      Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
      Keep on brother in Christ, you are in my prayers

      • Reason2012

        Glad it was a blessing. Helps the more and more people realize the truth behind this attempt to twist the Constitution and use this to in fact censor and criminalize Christianity except where they give permission.
        May God bless as well!

        • Frank Dorka

          Jefferson wrote that the constitution built a wall separating religion and government. Just like a good Christian, you wish to turn his words to your own gain. Shame.

  • Gott Mit Uns!

    I applaud Military Religious Freedom Foundation in taking this courageous stand in support of religious freedom of all Americans.

    • scottrose

      Big deal.

      • Gott Mit Uns!

        Yes.

        • Frank Dorka

          God is with you.

      • TallZeke

        Everything a leftard does is “courageous.” They are drama queens, they never have ordinary days, they just move from one melodrama to another. “Oh, I scratched my rear end, I am so COURAGEOUS!”

        • Gott Mit Uns!

          To the fundamentalist Christian a paper cut is grounds for screaming “Persecution!”

          • Frank Dorka

            Really, it seems that the Christians are finally doing some whining. It’s only been 200 years.

  • EscapetheDarkness

    If the “Missing Man Table” at U.S. military bases represents missing Christian soldiers, then I don’t see why a Bible shouldn’t be on it. Moreover, if one wants to be picky about this issue, then you could expand upon the concept of the “Missing Man Table”, and have different ones for different soldiers.

    • Cady555

      Correction. With a bible, the Missing Man Table is meant to simply honor missing christian soldiers. This table communicates the clear and intentional message that if non christians in the room were to go missing, no one would care.

      Why are christians so determined to disrespect soldiers who don’t follow the majority religion?

      • Slidellman4life

        This table communicates the clear and intentional message that if non christians in the room were to go missing, no one would care, just as they have not a thought to spare for non christians currently missing.

        That is absolutely absurd.

        • Cady555

          Ok. Explain how this display communicates respect or concern for anybody whos is not a christian.

          • Slidellman4life

            It doesn’t have to.

          • Cady555

            Cady55t said: Ok. Explain how this display communicates respect or concern for anybody whos is not a christian

            Slidellman4life said: It doesn’t have to.

            Thank you for admitting what is obvious to all. This display is about honoring christians. This display intentionally excludes non christian soldiers who gave all from official recognition and honor.

            No man left behind applies only to those with the right religion. Got it.

          • Slidellman4life

            And so what if it is? Where does it say in the Constitution that you can’t?

      • EscapetheDarkness

        @ Cady555

        Cady555 said: “Correction. With a bible, the Missing Man Table is meant to simply honor missing christian soldiers. This table communicates the clear and intentional message that if non christians in the room were to go missing, no one would care, just as they have not a thought to spare for non christians currently missing.”

        Correction. At a minimum, this is your contextless, subjective interpretation of the role of the Bible on the Missing Man Table, which you are demanding that others hold to as well.

        Moreover, this response doesn’t even attempt to address the entirety of the substance of my original comment on this comment thread. To the contrary, in this response, it appears that you are just trying to pave over what I said here by plugging your ears and simply repeating this point. As such, your reply here falls short.

        • Cady555

          I am trying to figure out why people decorating a table to represent all missing soldiers would place on it a symbol that specifically excludes many soldiers. I cannot fugure out why the christians making this decision cannot spare an ounce if compassion for those with different personal beliefs.

          So far, I’ve only heard multiple variations of “we are in the majority and don’t have to care about anyone else.”

  • Becky

    “An Air Force base in Ohio has removed a Bible from a display honoring prisoners of war (POW) and those missing in action (MIA) following a complaint from a church-state separation group.”

    A church-state separation group?? Who do you think you’re fooling…call ’em what they really are…heathens.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    US military needs the Holy Bible. USA cannot do what is right apart from the Holy Bible. If USA ceases to be Christian good, the nation is meaningless. It will just preserve man’s evil inclination and every culture’s barbarism instead of the truth, dignity, liberty, and every child’s safety. Man is not animal. Man does not live for bread but for God’s glory and His kingdom by His Word. ( Matthew ch. 4-7) Americans need Jesus Christ to get saved and to do what is right.

    • Josey

      amen sister in Christ, Amercia need to repent and it starts in the house of God.
      1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

      2 Chronicles 7:14 “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

    • Tree L. Bolling

      Here’s a news flash for you…. America is a SECULAR nation!

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        No, you are too young to notice anything. Christianity gave birth to America and America was nurtured and developed by the Christians for moral happiness. Secularism only brought pollution upon the youth and upon the planet. America has no morality whatsoever apart from Christianity. The nation only has depravity and infanticide and suicide as the core value, if no Christianity. You guys must stop attacking God’s truth and your only functioning conscience, namely Christianity. Men who repay the good with evil never prosper.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    It is surprising that the families of prisoners of war and those missing in action would form an anti-Christian group of this sort. Surely they didn’t do this in response to a complaint from comfortable whiners that have done nothing for their country …

    • Cady555

      Yes. I am sure that the families of Jewish soldiers missing and killed fully support christian dominionism in every aspect of the military.

      /snark

      • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

        Which families of which Jewish soldiers missing and killed have a stake in this display, and want it sanitized of scripture? You’re making it up.

        • Cady555

          This display is placed there by the Air Force purported to honor all missing servicemen. At least 30 people understand it fails at that mission

          • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

            Armchair whiners.

      • Frank Dorka

        Tell it to someone whom cares…like a non-Christian.

  • calduncan

    Funny, there is probably a higher percentage of career military men who are Christians than in the nation at large, but by all means let’s kowtow to the meddlesome, peevish atheists.

    • Frank Dorka

      No way. They are only three percent and WE are 83 %. MAJORITY RULES!!!

  • Frank Dorka

    We ALL know that the POW/MIAs were ALL of the Christian Faith and if they weren’t, then they don’t matter anyway. Only Christians should be martyred for their country, The others were just expendable.

    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      Well said. Actually if you look into it further, they refine it even more: the Catholics, Orthodox and Ethiopian Orthodox faiths are excluded because they all have more than 66 books in their bible. Oh it is only the Evangelicals who count, blimey.

  • Slidellman4life

    Is anyone else flagging Patrick? He’s an anti-Christian troll who doesn’t belong here.

    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      Thank you for your programme of persecution against me! You shall know them by their fruits. What was obvious is that is you can not defend your statements, which is okay.

      • Slidellman4life

        What is obvious is you are a liar and a deceiver, like your father the devil.

        God never creates confusion.

        • Patrick Van Der Ven

          You promised not to talk to me 5 posts ago. Could you at least keep that promise when i never opened a dialogue with you1. Prove biblically my heresy.
          Oh please confusion!!! Do you even understand hermeneutics? I am so sorry i challenge you on an intellectual level. I am a Catholic my dear friend. I hold the belief that Jesus is God by tradition of Holy Mother Church. There is more biblical proof to counter the divinity of Christ than to prove it. So please I would love you to prove Jesus was God biblically.
          I remind you Satan is an Accuser. Proof that is what you lack. You spew bible and prove you lack of discerning spirits. Keep accusing it just proves you do not know Jesus. Your accusations are baseless if can not prove a contention, didums.