‘Pastor’ Proposes Elaborate Plan to Overhaul Restrooms Nationwide to Accommodate Men Dressed as Women

Phipps-compressedNEW YORK — A man who identifies as the “lead pastor” of a New York City congregation, who believes that in order for Christians to be loving and relevant in society they should accommodate those who identify as transgender, has proposed what he calls a “solution” that would eliminate male and female restrooms altogether.

Ryan Phipps leads Forefront Church in Manhattan, which is part of a dual-location assembly that also has several female co-leaders. According to the Forefront website, the “values of our church community are drawn out of the life Jesus embodied and our desire to emulate Him, so that Christ’s prayer of renewal ‘on earth as it is in Heaven’ may be a reality.”

On Friday, Phipps published a blog post on the website of the Convergence Initiative, “a collective of Post-Evangelical, Progressive Evangelical, Non-Denominational and Free-Church tradition churches, organizations, leaders and networks.”

“We stand against ideologies and systems of privilege that harm and diminish people based on gender, religion, race, sexual orientation, economic status, background, or citizenship,” the “about” section of the site reads.

In his post, Phipps proposes to eliminate male and female restrooms and instead have one “human” restroom. The stalls are separated by ceiling-to-floor walls, and include a personal sink and mirror, as opposed to placing them in a common area outside of the stalls.

“The bathroom interior features fully separated stalls, each equipped with their own toilet, sink, mirror, trashcan, hand dryer, and diaper changing station,” he outlines. “The bathroom exterior features a lounge and entertainment center, making the user feel more comfortable and safe knowing that other members of the public are always close.”

Phipps also proposes installing security cameras outside of the stalls so that the area can be under surveillance.

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“Security cameras are installed so that people entering and exiting are under surveillance for safety purposes. The cameras are unable to surveil anything happening inside the stalls, allowing the user to have full privacy,” he writes.

Phipps Twitter-compressed“By making one bathroom that all people can use, available space is doubled by the elimination of the other gender-separated space. In addition, eliminating the sinks outside the stalls creates space for them inside each stall,” Phipps says.

Phipps asserts that the idea is reflective of Christianity and even points to Scripture to make his argument, citing 2 Corinthians 10:5, which reads, “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.” Phipps suggests that the Scripture pertains to being inclusive and accommodating of those who identify as the opposite sex.

“Are you demolishing arguments and pretension that keep people from knowing God? Are you taking your thoughts captive to the way of Jesus, who didn’t turn people away, but who found a way to welcome them?” he writes.

“We mustn’t cling to antiquated ways of reasoning and separation that have long reached their time,” Phipps says. “We should think, dream, and pray about how we can be more ‘whole’ in our treatment of people.”

The Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary outlines that the Scripture’s command to cast down imaginations that exalt themselves against the knowledge of God refers to reasonings based upon “men’s own purpose and determination of living after their own pleasure … where the powers of darkness exalt themselves against Christ and us.”

“The three steps of the apostle’s spiritual warfare are: (1) It demolishes what is opposed to Christ; (2) It leads captive; (3) It brings into obedience to Christ (Ro 1:5; 16:26),” it explains. The ‘mental intents’ (‘thoughts’) are taken willing captives, and tender the voluntary obedience of faith to Christ the Conqueror.”

Phipps posted on Twitter Saturday to tout the readership of his post.

“My #Transgender bathroom post is being read 34.625 times per hour. Must have struck a nerve,” he wrote.


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  • acontraryview

    I think that sounds very nice!

    • gizmo23

      Sounds like some European bathrooms

  • storie

    Good grief. What an idiot.

    • acontraryview

      how so?

  • Liz Litts

    What a bunch of gobbledegook! Now I know Jesus’ return is close–the ‘church’ is blind, poor and naked!

    • gogo0

      your guys’ culture of judgment and hate is the opposite of what jesus did. jesus accepted sinners, he even served them, and this put them on the path to salvation.
      fundie christians constantly judge and rebuke other sinners (despite being sinners themselves), refuse to serve them (the pathetic cake and marriage license debacles), and end up pushing these people away. this pastor is trying to accept people and get them on the path to salvation, thus raising the numbers of your guys’ doomsday cult.

      • Dio Jones

        Jesus also taught repentance and that God made MAN AND WOMAN, not man, woman, and whatever you want to call yourself… Real love is sharing Christ AND telling people there are consequences for their sin… remember Mary? I do not accuse you either now GO AND SIN NO MORE… people like to leave the last part out…

        • gogo0

          doesnt explicitly say anywhere in the bible that god made GMO crops (man made those), sheep clones (man made those), or any number of horrible diseases that ravage his beloved creations -yet they all seem to exist nonetheless.

          • Dio Jones

            Matthews says what is going to happen, not how… man will bring about God’s wrath and man will be the catalyst to most of them…

        • RustySkywater

          So people born intersexual are out of luck? Why did God create them then?

          • Dio Jones

            Transgender is not intersexual thus your argument is moot… always changing the topic… typical…

          • RustySkywater

            No, it is YOU who is changing the topic. You started off by saying that the only two possible types are male and female, and when I bring up the fact that intersexual people exist – which you yourself do not deny – you deflect.

            You owe me an honest answer to my questions.

          • Mary Lyons

            Troll!! you are just saying “intersexual” to get something started as usual. Who is paying you to say this stuff?

          • Mary Lyons

            Always one troll in the bunch

      • Coach

        Your jesus seems to fit your imagination and can’t save. The Jesus of the bible saves sinners by the transformational power of the gospel, which you seem to be ignorant of. God is infinitely worthy of praise, not mockery. Jesus Christ will judge the living and the dead on that awesome and dreadful day.

        To Him who is able to save the worst of sinners, be all glory, power, and dominion forever.

        • Jeff Tilley

          Troll ….

          • gizmo23

            How is coach a troll ?

          • Jeff Tilley

            I’m feeling a bit stalked here ….

            You boys (or are you girls?) are hanging around on a Christian News Network news feed to for what purpose other than to argue with Christians? Am I right?

            Are there not enough other corners of the internet where you might find folks that believe like you do? Or would you rather hang around on the Christian news sites? Are you here to learn more about being a Christian? I’d say not … you’re here to throw rocks at Christians!!

            Trolls —

            Look – plain and simple – I don’t go over to your side to lurk in the corners and throw stones at you … that would be “trolling”. Why do you seem to enjoy hanging around on this side?

          • gizmo23

            Why hang around boards where everyone agrees with you? That isn’t any fun and you don’t learn anything.
            How is asking questions trolling? Challenge is always good and no one is forced to respond to posters

          • Jeff Tilley

            Dear Gizmo23 — it’s time for you to get ready for school.

            Those of us who work for a living are signing off now.

          • gizmo23

            I am 60 and have to go to work also. Thanks for the morning weakness and insult, it serves your faith well

          • gizmo23

            Nice insult. Is that part of your faith?

          • Coach

            Forgive my lack of understanding you, but I’m confused by your comment.

        • Josey

          amen!

      • Eddie frOly

        He did accept sinners exactly right but He didn’t let them stay in their sins instead telling them what their sins where and to go and sin no more. It’s not about being perfect, or unaccepting, it is about loving people enough to offend them because the absolute truth of Gods word is necessarily offensive. Jesus Himself said it would and should be !

      • Theophile

        Your lack of respect for Jesus using the lower case J, & lack of knowledge concerning God’s Word has been noted. Hey look! The LORD(Jesus) calls crossdressers THE abomination, not their crossdressing!O_o!
        Deuteronomy
        22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

      • Jeff Tilley

        Galatians 6:7
        Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
        1 Peter 1:16
        Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

        You, sir, are wrong about who is doing the judging around here … just read your bible. Mankind has already been judged by a Holy God. There is but one path to eternal life, and that is through the Blood of Jesus Christ. This FACT applies to you, me and all the rest of is world — including your transgender friends.

        • RustySkywater

          gogo0 was speaking truth.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        No my friend, Jesus loved the sinner but hated sin. He forgave and then said go and sin no more. He said if you LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. God said if you keep His instructions you will be blessed and if you do not you will be cursed.

      • Mary Lyons

        TROLL ALERT!! They are out in numbers on this blog today!!

  • Nidalap

    Train wreck…

  • Headrick

    Who pays for all that to be done?

    • gizmo23

      Since it seems like such a big deal to them, maybe churches could do it

      • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

        Margaret Thatcher said, “The problem with socialists(or liberals) is that they will eventually run out of other people’s money to spend( to buy votes).”

        • gizmo23

          How is a church paying for something akin to socialism ? I’m not following

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            “other people’s money” = taxpayers’/businessess’/employers’/consumers’ money
            .
            In the news article’s proposal for a “human” toilet, it would most likely hv to be paid by the businessess n/or Churches. This would hv to be passed by the liberals of the Blue States as new State laws or Federal laws. The LGBTQs would be appeased/bought n continue to vote for the liberal politicians of the Blue States.(= Democrats n Rinos)
            ……. Isn’t this usual modus operandi of the liberals/socialists.?

          • gizmo23

            You sure do project a lot. Of course we could just continue as we have in the past and not have the expense

  • Michael C

    I’ve been in several unisex bathrooms. There’s really nothing unusual about them besides the fact that you’re washing your hands next to someone of the opposite sex. That’s not really that awkward, though.

    This isn’t a new concept (it’s also not necessary).

  • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

    QUOTE: …….”Are you taking your thoughts captive to the way of Jesus, who didn’t
    turn people away, but who found a way to welcome them?” he writes.

    That’s a lie.
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    MATT.10: = Sending Out the Twelve

    5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    7 And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead,[c] cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

    9 Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts, 10 nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food.

    .
    .
    MATT.15: = A Gentile Shows Her Faith

    21 Then Jesus went out from there and departed to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And
    behold, a woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him,
    saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely
    demon-possessed.”

    23 But He answered her not a word.

    And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.”

    24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

    25 Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”

    26 But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.”

    27 And she said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the little dogs eat the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.”

    28 Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EvidencefortheBible/ Galut1

    Altough it sound s interesting and should be considered ….our local K-mart in Yakima has two simple single stool bathrooms with sink and mirrors and a diaper changing table ….and they are lockable …either gender may walk in and lock the door behind them

  • Dio Jones

    Hey pastor, REPENT…. I see lots of fire coming to the Church in the next few years for His bride is not ready for his return… without spot and wrinkle mean just that…

    Always be a light that is .shininginthedark.

  • Eddie frOly

    What in tge hell is he talking about? You have to take anything Paul wrote completely outside of it’s historical context to make it mean something about being more inclusive to homosexuality. The most loving thing the church can do for these people is be honest about our fallen state, our need for a Savior, that His job is not to make us happy here on Earth but to sanctify us for what is to come. God does not change what He said through His word just because society changes!

    • Kara Connor

      What has homosexuality got to do with this topic?

      • gizmo23

        Nothing. These bathroom laws are just meant to hurt others

  • Theophile

    NewsFlash Ryan…

    The LORD God(Who changes NOT) does not “make accommodations” for Obama-Nations:

    Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

    • gizmo23

      I guess there are a lot of women going to hell because of wearing those jeans

      • Guest

        And even more of them that they aren’t Jewish to begin with.

  • Psygn

    The old sci-fi movie unisex future is happening now..

  • Jeff Tilley

    The “Pastor” is late to this party.

    It’s obvious to even the casual observer that what architects have achieved with modern building design is an ECONOMY OF SCALE as they have designed multi-person washrooms, locker rooms and toilets. It’s also obvious that one of several cures for this problem of a lack of privacy created by the design (who CARES what you call yourself on any given day?) would be to give each user one hundred percent privacy.

    My question is this: Who gets to pay for all of the retrofits? Every single commercial and institutional building in the country would have to be retrofitted to accommodate this new normal. Shall we just print more money? That seems to be the only answer these days.

    And, ultimately, is there ANY expense that we should not pay for to find an accommodation for each and every quirk of human existence? Every single last one of them? Come on you self-righteous, liberal-minded do-gooders …. get off your wallets and show us what inside of them.

    • gizmo23

      How is this liberal? It’s paranoid anti gay people that is driving this made up issue

      • Jeff Tilley

        You are deluded. I thought the article was discussing trans people … when did it switch to anti-gay?

        • gizmo23

          Because in many peoples eyes they are one and the same and these laws are meant to hurt people. The NC and Mississippi laws tie the 2 together in the same law.
          This was a non issue until the court ruling last year on gay marriage. These laws are just a cheap atempt at election year pandering and are designed to cause fear in people. On top of that the bathroom laws are completely unenforcable unless you are going to have genital checks at the door.

          • Jeff Tilley

            These laws were not meant to hurt anyone. Repeat – these laws were not mean to hurt anyone.

            Would you like to know what these laws were meant to do? Is that important to you?

            These laws were meant to preserve the status quo! The status quo has been in existence from the beginning of time. Since when did certain segments of this citizenry of this country start thinking that every single sexual norm needs to be up-ended?

            The way things work (as of now, anyway) in the South, is that we think that conserving the paths of tradition can be a good thing. The tradition has had it that the boys used the boys room and the girls used the girls room. If the boys decided they are no longer boys, wells, that’s THEIR problem. If the girls decided they are no longer girls, well, that’s THEIR problem. You go with the gender that you were born with or assigned reasonably soon thereafter. I notice that some locations around the south are now showing a “Unisex” or “Family” bathroom … is this not accommodation enough?

            As it relates to middle school and high school locker rooms … I’d be careful what you ask for …. as the doors fly off the stalls, the lid is going to fly off of Pandora’s box top. The boys and girls will soon enjoy taking group showers after gym class.

          • gizmo23

            The status quo is that transgendered people have used bathrooms for years and you never noticed, now all of a sudden it’s a huge problem.

  • Debbi Lynch

    And he can pay for all this nonsense from his collection plate. Preach the gospel preacher, because Jesus will be here soon.

  • Josey

    I don’t know what kind of pastor he is but clearly doesn’t follow Christ for we are not here to accommodate sin or insanity, Jesus would never have condoned this, He loves all and showed ppl the way was through Him alone and that if they would trust in Him He would give them living water that would quench their thirst and He always told anyone He set free to go and sin no more. That is not accommodating, this guy is nuts with his bathroom plan anyway.

    • RustySkywater

      Shorter Josey: anyone who doesn’t practice Christianity in the same way that I do isn’t a Real! True! Christian!

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Anyone who does not practice what the word of God says is none of HIS. There will be many who come before Him at the judgement seat that did all kinds of things in His name but did not practice the instructions He gave then. He will tell them “depart from Me you workers of iniquity (those who practice lawlessness) , I never knew you”. He also said , ” if you love me KEEP My commandments”. I’d say the bible is very clear on what is expected of those who choose Him as their King. All kingdoms have a King and laws to govern those who wish to be part of it. Therefore if one goes against those laws, they are rebelling against the rulership of that Kingdom. There is ONE who rules the Kingdom of God and those who are His remain under His leadership. The very word Christian means Christ like. Unlike our messed up government, when people are under a righteous King all are happy to keep the Laws He puts forth and all wish to be like Him.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Anyone who does not practice what the word of God says is none of HIS. There will be many who come before Him at the judgement seat that did all kinds of things in His name but did not practice the instructions He gave then. He will tell them “depart from Me you workers of iniquity (those who practice lawlessness) , I never knew you”. He also said , ” if you love me KEEP My commandments”. I’d say the bible is very clear on what is expected of those who choose Him as their King. All kingdoms have a King and laws to govern those who wish to be part of it. Therefore if one goes against those laws, they are rebelling against the rulership of that Kingdom. There is ONE who rules the Kingdom of God and those who are His remain under His leadership. The very word Christian means Christ like. Unlike our messed up government, when people are under a righteous King all are happy to keep the Laws He puts forth and all wish to be like Him.

    • Guest

      What sin is there in being transgender? What does that have to do with not loving or not forgiving?

  • Angelene

    This is what the “Falling Away” looks like. He doesn’t deserve to be a pastor. Be guided by the true Holy Spirit and Discern who and who NOT to listen too.

  • ComeOnPeople!

    All who do not practice what the word of God says are none of HIS. There will be many who come before Him at the judgement seat that did all kinds of things in His name but did not practice the instructions He gave then. He will tell them “depart from Me you workers of iniquity (those who practice lawlessness) , I never knew you”. He also said , ” if you love me KEEP My commandments”. I’d say the bible is very clear on what is expected of those who choose Him as their King. All kingdoms have a King and laws to govern those who wish to be part of it. Therefore if one goes against those laws, they are rebelling against the rulership of that Kingdom. There is ONE who rules the Kingdom of God and those who are His remain under His leadership. The very word Christian means Christ like. Unlike our messed up government, when people are under a righteous King all are happy to keep the Laws He puts forth and all wish to be like Him.

    • Guest

      And we all agree I think in that principle. I think many who don’t love and forgive as God commanded are going to be unpleasantly surprised at their turn before the Throne and I pray that God’s unfathomable and undeserved gift of Grace will suffice to spare all those who have ignored His commandments in His Name.

      And this pastor’s idea of requiring separate sealed rooms for is a bit overboard. As was published here, people are criminally assaulted in rest rooms regardless of what genders are in them. People have been sharing them with people of all sexual orientations and genders all along.

      Again, use them legally and with the Spirit and all these problems fall away. ‘Christians’ who are more concerned about their comfort than those around them really weren’t paying enough attention in church.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        His kind of love is not that of what the world says it is. They want a God who says nothing when they go against His instructions, one who cares more for their comfort then their salvation. True love tells someone when they are heading towards a bridge that is out. True love is active not complacent . A father in any home sets out rules for that house hold . If a child goes against those rules set down by his father, that child will be told what he did wrong, maybe suffer consequences & then forgives. So to our heavenly Father has set forth instructions, not because He does not love us but because He does. And when we transgress… if we have a relationship with our Father , He lets us know we have disobeyed Him, we may suffer from our disobedience and then He takes us into His arms and says I forgive you , go and sin no more. Our Father doesn’t change His instructions so we can be comfortable living in His house. Love isn’t passive. Love never allows someone to continue in sin because it knows eventually they will be separated from God.

        • Guest

          Again, explain to me how a transgender person is not loving or not forgiving, the metrics that define sin for Christians. I can understand how all the people passing and supporting these laws are sinning but not the transgender person.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            A man who says he is a woman goes against the one who created him. A woman who says she is a man , goes against the one who created her. They worship the created rather then the Creator. They are in sin because they declare their own truths and deny the Creators truths.

          • Guest

            No, God made them they way they are – I know you weren’t there when He created the world, you have no better understanding of His design and purpose than anyone else.

            The sin of pride and using that as an excuse to justify not loving and not forgiving is probably the most common sin there is. God’s truth is that we are commanded to love and forgive being transgender is not a sin, but treating those who are badly is.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            He created a man and a woman. The definition of a man and a woman is still in all anatomy test books & in dictionaries today. The kind of love you speak of is fickle. It isn’t love at all because it allows others to feel good about something that will eventually destroy them. As for love replacing God’s instructions on how to live. No, sorry, He gave those instructions because He loved fallen man, He came a died because man broke those instructions and He sent back His Spirit to lead and guide men into ALL truth . He did not make a way to redeem man back to Himself simply so they could continue breaking His laws. Love says don’t covet, don’t murder, don’t teal, don’t bear false witness, honor your parents, love God, have no other Gods, don’t lie to yourself or to others. Love is the law of God and the Law of God is love. If there is no law then no one ever sins because sin defined by the word of God is the transgress of His law.

          • Guest

            Yes, He created a man and woman with the genetic potential to have descendants that could be all combinations of sex, sexual orientation and gender.

            And since you obviously can’t state a reason how transgender people are sinning I view your responses as proof of where the sin really lies.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Since you cannot understand my definition , I see no point in wasting time writing it over and over again. As to where the sin lies. Well… God is and will be the untimate Judge. He is a righteous Judge and He will Judge all men righteously according to HIS WORD. I have no worry in facing Him or in facing mankind. I love both with everything in me. True love helps men see where they might be separating themselves from their Creator and heading towards hell. Fake love only cares about acceptance and being comfortable. Fake love people only care about self and their agendas not about others or the souls of men.

          • Guest

            Yes God will be the ultimate Judge and since we know that right at this moment there is neither ‘male nor female ‘in the Body of Christ and there will be no ‘marry or marriage’ in the next – we will all be as the angels in heaven (take that as all being male or genderless – works out the same) I truly think an obsession with gender – an ‘of those world’ thing – leads to true sin by causing failures to love and forgive over reasons that just aren’t central to what God is even concerned about.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            This is because we will have glorified bodies but I hate to tell you until that takes place you are in a fallen body that has a gender assigned to it.

          • Guest

            and God isn’t concerned about male or female and designed us do we could have any mix of sexes, sexual orientations and gender in this world.

            More likely He’s more concerned how we deal with ‘the least of us’ more than the make and mods on our classic rides.

            take care and my God live and forgive you as I’m trying to myself. 🙏

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Your love and forgiveness is shallow and your knowledge of the word of God is very limited. Sorry but God never made men and women with the intent to change what HE Himself created. We are not our own god. Love and forgiveness does not forbid us to disagree. The Messiah said men would kill and despise those who keep His words and do them. They will do so thinking they are doing it as unto God. They will call good evil and evil good. I assure you that I not only serve a forgiving God but also one that will judge every person ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. If one transgresses His word and continue in their sin then HE will declare “DEPART FROM ME YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY.” His commandments are not suggestions and are meant to convict those who turn away from His will.

          • Guest

            And those that talk like the Pharisees will be judged with out the mercy they denied others. You have been warned.

            Good night and may God find a way to forgive us all.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No sin is defined in the word of God as transgression of the law ( HIS law.)

          • Guest

            And all law for Christians flows from being commanded to love and forgive being under the New Covenant. So you should have said ‘yes’.

          • Guest

            Silly. That would mean correcting a cleft palate was going against God’s will. God designed us so that there could be people of all sexes and genders. We already know that there will be no sex or gender in the next world.

            More likely He has allowed up to have such a range in this world more to see how we will treat ‘even the least amongst us’. Anything less than with love and forgiveness is sin.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            A cleft palet is a deformity and thank God we have the ability to help fix some of the deformities man kind has. But you would not fix a perfectly formed mouth. The sex organ is not a deformity that needs fixing if nothing is wrong with it. A person who denies who they are needs love but not the kind of love that allows them to live a life apart from reality. Sorry but I cannot lie to a man who thinks he is a woman because lying to him is far from loving him according to God’s word.

          • Frances Dunigan

            @Guest: Saints in Heaven will not “all be as the angels in [H[eaven!” God has already declared what Abominations are. 1 Thessalonians 5:22 King James Version (KJV) reads– “Abstain from all appearance of evil.” Does the Holy Spirit even indwells you? The One who teaches and leads us into all righteousness and convicts of sin? You know, one of the three (3) persons of the Trinity?

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            If you think we will not ‘all be as the angels in heaven’ take it up with Christ since that is what He specifically said. Matthew 22:30

            What sect of Christianity are you that you don’t include Matthew in your Scriptures?

            And I am filled with the Spirit and do abstain from evil, you should take that advice yourself when talking to your brethren.

          • Frances Dunigan

            First of all, it will never be about what I think but what thus saith the Lord God Almighty. God has admonished Christians to lean not to their own understanding. Are you projecting? Which of these sect do you belong to–Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes, the Cynic sect, and the Academic sect, Plato, the Academic sect, the Peripatetic, and Cynic to the Stoic and any other sect not listed here?

            Matthew 28:19-20 King James Version: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

            Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

            Further, it was never apparent that I was responding to “[my] brethren.” So help me Holy Ghost!

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Not projecting, you were the one that seemed unaware of Matthew 22:30. There are many Christian sects with highly varied beliefs – the infamous Kim Davis belongs to a sect that doesn’t believe in the Trinity at all, that there is one that doesn’t know Matthew is a possibility, we know that many wanted only Luke to be the single Gospel when the books that would end up in the canon compilation was being debated.

            But this is all off topic. Take care and God Bless.

          • Frances Dunigan

            Why led you to that conclusion? Did I post God’s Word? No, it is you who deny, deflect, and attack.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Attack? You said [email protected]: Saints in Heaven will not “all be as the angels in [H[eaven!” when Jesus Himself said exactly that. That means you were in someway unaware He had, that’s all.

            But you seem a bit combative and completely off topic.

            Take care and God Bless (or is that another attack in your mind?)

          • Frances Dunigan

            Have you read 1 Cor 6:3? Holy Spirit, you are welcome in this place, we so need your regenerating working power take control now so hearts and minds change, lead where you may, and convict.

  • TheBottomline4This

    These are not a Pastor, nor a Church, nor Christians.
    Next story.

  • Susan M Khaury

    What about the Bible’s commandments about modesty? Where does that fit in with women being forced to share locker rooms with men? The Bible says “Look not on the nakedness of….” The only person whose nakedness we should observe is that of our own spouse and children.

  • upload

    How does not confronting a serious mental issue help anyone? How is that showing love?

  • Gena B

    Accepting someone into a church in order to help them follow God and learn repentance is great. But if a person continually sins, with no regrets and the pastor tells them that’s okay, then that pastor will have to answer to God for leading them down that broad path. Sinning against God happens in every Christian, but as a person comes to love God more and more, when a sin occurs they are more and more devastated by it and repent. If you truly love God with all your heart, soul and mind then you will tell people the truth.

  • Tommy Ferrell

    All that so you can take a crap next door to somone who may be who knows what…?
    Lord, are these people crazy?

  • bowie1

    Washing hands in the sink is no problem but having to expose private parts in front of strangers is.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    This man sounds more like a plumber than a teacher of the word of God. I think he just wants to sell more bathroom fittings. More fittings means there are more dripping taps.

  • kctaz

    Does the Pastor have any idea how much money this would cost? a lot of people could be fed with the billions that would have to be spent to do this.

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    Revernd Phipps is your typical modern Populist preacher where religion and Fads are just tools he uses to deceive the Non-Discerning.
    While he is removing the names Men and Women from washroom doors maybe he should also change the name of his Church from “Fore front” to “False Front”. After all to Mr. Phipps “the times they are a changin”.