Michelle Obama Criticizes Mississippi Religious Freedom Bill During Commencement Speech

Obama-compressedJACKSON, Miss. — Michelle Obama criticized Mississippi’s newly-signed religious freedom bill on Saturday during her commencement speech at Jackson State University, painting it to be antithetical to the civil rights movement and societal “progress.”

“We see it right here in Mississippi—just two weeks ago—how swiftly progress can hurtle backward,” she told students during her speech. “How easy it is to single out a small group and marginalize them because of who they are or who they love.”

As previously reported, last month, Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant signed into law the Protecting Freedom of Conscience from Government Discrimination Act, which prohibits the government from punishing those who pass up forms of participation in marital events for religious reasons.

“The state government shall not take any discriminatory action against a person wholly or partially on the basis that the person has provided or declined to provide … services, accommodations, facilities, goods, or privileges for a purpose related to the solemnization, formation, celebration, or recognition of any marriage, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction,” it reads in part.

The bill only pertains to events and does not permit the refusal of service in general. It also requires restroom use to correlate with birth gender.

“If we fail to exercise our fundamental right to vote, then I guarantee that so much of the progress we’ve fought for will be under threat,” Obama remarked on Saturday. “Congress will still be gridlocked. Statehouses will continue to roll back voting rights and write discrimination into the law.”

Amid citing that the Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium used to only be used by whites at one time and that “what was essentially a pro-Jim Crow rally” was once held at the location as well, she lumped same-sex and gender identity issues into the African American civil rights movement.

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“So we’ve got to stand side by side with all our neighbors—straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender; Muslim, Jew, Christian, Hindu immigrant, Native American—because the march for civil rights isn’t just about African Americans, it’s about all Americans,” Obama said.

“It’s about making things more just, more equal, more free for all our kids and grandkids,” she stated. “That’s the story you all have the opportunity to write. That’s what this historic university has prepared you to do.”

Bryant had defended his signing of the law by noting that it “merely reinforces the rights which currently exist to exercise of religious freedom as stated in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.”

“Mississippians from all walks of life believe that the government shouldn’t punish someone because of their views on marriage,” also stated Alliance Defending Freedom legal counsel Kellie Fiedorek. “After all, you’re not free if your beliefs are confined to your mind. What makes America unique is our freedom to peacefully live out those beliefs, and the Constitution protects that freedom.”

An estimated 35,000 people flocked to hear Obama speak at the university, including approximately 800 graduates.


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  • Ronald Carter

    I thought her speech was wonderful and inspirational.

    • The Last Trump

      Yes, Hitler would have loved it!

      Bravo! Bravo!

      • Ronald Carter

        Godwin’s Law! Well, that didn’t take long.

        • The Last Trump

          Moron’s Law!!
          (The first loon to bring up Godwin’s any time Hitler is mentioned!)
          Huh. That was even faster! 🙂

          • Ronald Carter

            Right, because Hitler is soooo relevant to the Obanas. Good lord.

          • Ronald Carter

            Considering everything she said was the polar opposite of everything Hitler stood for, there’s really no mystery about who the moron is here…

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Hey, Trump, my law is copyrighted.

            WorldGoneCrazy’s Law: “The first one to bring up Godwin’s Law when the jackboot fits has lost the debate.” 🙂

          • Ronald Carter

            Fascinating, The First Lady is saying nothing but words that would be anathema to Hitler and WE are somehow the nazis? Did you even listen to her speech? Guessing not.

      • Chrissy Vee

        Trump…. If you could see my face….lol

    • TallZeke

      That means it was awful.

      • Ronald Carter

        Uh huh.

  • Brad F

    She hates Christianity as much as her disgusting husband. Politicians worship only themselves, naturally they hate competition.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Yes, they hate Christianity so much they joined it.

      • Charles

        They joined what? Christianity? They aren’t Christians by any means…I hope you aren’t implying that..

        • Ambulance Chaser

          I’m not “implying” it, I’m saying it. They’re Christians.

          • Charles

            Since when does the Christian faith support homosexuality? Let alone homosexual “Marriage”? I’ll wait.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Since when is one’s opinion on homosexuality the defining factor as to whether that person is a Christian?

          • Charles

            It’s God’s Law, not an opinion.. If you are openly violating it such as Obama on a daily basis, well the rest tells itself doesn’t it… That’s just the tip for him though, TONS of other things about what he really believes..

          • Guest

            The word homosexuality never crossed God’s lips.

          • Charles

            It doesn’t? Really? Then you don’t believe the Holy Bible.. Simple as that.

          • Guest

            Since the concept didn’t exist in Hebrew other Greek it would be quite a trick for it to show up.

          • Charles

            What concept didn’t exist? What in the world are you talking about?

          • Guest

            What you are talking about homosexually. Keep up.

          • Charles

            Are you trying to say God never addresses Homosexuality in the Bible? Are you REALLY trying to say that?

          • Guest

            He addresses it as He does opposite sex issues.

          • Charles

            Verses you are speaking of please.

          • Guest

            1Corinthians where Paul mentions heterosexual and homosexual adultery and prostituon, repeated in Timothy in the attempt to reconstruct the Old Covenant commandments mentioning men’s adultery with women and men sequentially.

            in contrast married Christians can have sex with their spouse regardless of their male or female. people are free to have a different opinion but that doesn’t make them anymore Christian than anyone else.

          • Charles

            You mean this verse?

            1Co 6:9-11 KJV

            (9) Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

            (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

            (11) And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

            See.. There’s a problem with your theory.. The problem is Adultery is already mentioned.. Idolatry is worship of any other God. Then it mentions the Abusers of mankind with themselves (Homosexuals).. So… That opinion doesn’t wash… Then he says “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified”.. They stopped doing what they were doing. I’ve heard this garbage before…

          • Guest

            no problem, this is written in Greek and there was no one word that encompassed adultery regardless of sex, they both had to be mentioned. there were many types of sexual relations Romans didn’t think ‘counted’ towards marital fidelity so Paul had to list them all.

          • Charles

            Give me one verse.. ONE that says anything but God sanctifying anything other than a man and a woman in marriage. In fact, anything that shows God’s approval of Homosexuality anywhere in the Bible. It’s not there because God doesn’t approve of it.. Whether you are a unrepentant serial adulterer, or an unrepentant homosexual you are in the same boat.. It doesn’t fly in God’s world. You can’t be an adulterer as a homosexual.. Marriage isn’t sanctioned by God between two males or two females.. So there’s no need to address adultery between two of the same sex.

          • Guest

            Christians marry just fine regardless of male or female and since sex, sexual relations, and marriage is an ‘of this world’ thing it’s no more important to us than worrying about two fibered cloth or what meats to eat. Sex outside of marriage is against love, but sex within marriage is the undefiled regardless of the sex of the spouse.

            You’ll see, spiritual failure for Christians is about not loving and not forgiving, not nit picky ‘of this world’ things. Christianity 101.

          • Charles

            Hmm.. Well that’s not in God’s word… You are certainly entitled to what you want to believe, but that’s not God’s word.. The Lord has warned you about the flesh, and the damage it can do to your salvation. You are following your heart and it has deceived you.

            Jer 17:9 KJV

            (9) The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

            You’re not alone, many think the same way you do, and it’s.. I pray that you would reconsider.

          • Guest

            that God said male or female didn’t matter for those in the Body of Cheist is most certainly there.

            And I’m a Christian, I am under the New Covenant and commanded to live and forgive. yes the flesh can be a distraction from that task and that’s why we marry, saving sex for our spouse. but does any of that change with their ‘male or female? Not a whit.

          • Charles

            Right because God approves of Homosexuality.. Well.. Heck why stop there, I guess everything is ok then.. Please…. Verse you are referring to with the male, female?

          • Guest

            God never mentions homosexuality other than as a type of adultery. only in a context that He talks about heterosexuality.

          • Charles

            God never mentions Homosexuality other than what it is.. A sin that will keep you out of the kingdom. Just like unrepentant adultery, fornication, thievery, idolatry, etc. Just as God states.

          • Guest

            No homosexual adultery will keep you out of heaven just like heterosexual adultery. The key word is ‘adultery’, betraying of a spouse.

          • Charles

            Again, God sanctions marriage between a man an woman.

            Mat 19:4-6 KJV
            (4) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
            (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
            (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

            There is no such thing as homosexual adultery (It’s impossible, as God doesn’t sanction it) that’s a modern term.

          • Guest

            Jesus talking to Jewish men under the Old Covenant. I’m a Christian, I’m under the New Covenant.

          • Charles

            Yes, that’s what we’ve been discussing… The New Covenant. Nothing has changed in respect to homosexuality, or stealing, or a fornicator, etc…

          • Guest

            Then why quote a discussion between Jesus and men under the Old Covenant. And again homosexuality as a discrete thing is never mentioned, only adultery – with men or women. Fornication – with men or women. You are obsessed with the sex the transgression is with and miss the transgression itself.

            Again, married Christians don’t worry about that and Christians can marry regardless of ‘male or female’.

          • Charles

            Believe what you want. Like I said, many do.. You go right on ahead calling yourself what you want.. I’ve already proved homosexuality isn’t an accepted behavior in God’s world. Marriage is never sanctioned by God other than a man and woman.. Case closed.

          • Guest

            And you’ll find out you’re wrong soon enough. May James 2:13 prove to be an under estimation even the depths and limits of God’s undeserved gift of Grace and save you none the less.

          • Charles

            I know about God’s grace I was an unrepentant sinner… It’s the Lord’s grace that saved me.. Amen… I know what God’s word says about Homosexuality as do other believers in Jesus Christ. We don’t change the Word of God to suite our lifestyles.. You should really reconsider your position.

          • Guest

            And I know what God has said about those without mercy, those without the fruit of the Spirit, and what He has asked us to do, and what He has most certainly told us us not to do.

            And the words of those who don’t speak from a position of love and forgiveness, when they don’t show the fruit of the Spirit, well – I will go with God rather than them every time.

          • Charles

            Truth of the Word is loving. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t..

          • Guest

            And the Word says there is no male nor female in the Body of Christ. Deny it all you like married Christians can have a spouse of either sex.

          • Charles

            ha ha.. Ok.. Well, not Biblical, and NOT the Word of God.. So if you wish to live the lie that’s up to you.

          • Guest

            Yes exactly the words inspired by God and consistent with what He has asked us to do. Calling others ‘living a lie’ is something you might wish you hadn’t at the Throne but it is your choice.

          • Charles

            You should be worried about your own Salvation at this point, because you have no discernment.

          • Guest

            Not worried for myself but I am worried about you and will pray that God forgives you and shows you mercy.

            Guess we’re done here.

          • Charles

            I’ll leave you with God’s Word in that it may help you:

            Gen 19:5 KJV

            (5) And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

            Lev 18:22 KJV

            (22) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

            Lev 20:13 KJV

            (13) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

            Deu 22:5 KJV

            (5) The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

            Deu 23:17 KJV

            (17) There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

            Jdg 19:22 KJV

            (22) Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.

            Rom 1:26-27 KJV

            (26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

            (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

            1Ti 1:10 KJV

            (10) For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

            Amen.

          • Guest

            And may you gain the discernment you obviously lack. Learning a bit of Hebrew and Greek would be a good start.

            God bless.

          • Charles

            Not one verse to support your position.. Checkmate.

          • Guest

            Other than the ones about what Christians are commanded to do, what the law flows from, that Christians not concerned with male or female and all the lessons about the qualities of those who call themselves Christian but are void of the Spirit.

            You are just too clever. May God forgive your victory.

          • Ronald Carter

            Is that really your call to make?

          • Chrissy Vee

            I was thinking maybe “Guest” has been sitting under TBN doctrines.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            God never breaks covenants He makes. Men break covenants. His covenants overlap, one does not replace the other. If they did then you would no longer see a rainbow in the sky. David would no longer have a kingly line. The new covenant is mentioned in the old testament and it says… Jeremiah 31- 31- 34 “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of ISREAL , and with the house of JUDAH: Not ACCORDING to the covenant that I made with THEIR fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant THEY BRAKE, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But THIS SHALL BE THE COVENANT that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will PUT MY LAW in their inward parts, AND WRITE IT IN THEIR HEARTS; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will FORGIVE THEIR INIQUITY, and I will remember their SIN NO MORE.

            The new covenant was the Law of God written upon the heart. Men needed a heart change. There was nothing wrong with the law of God or His covenant. The problem was with mens hearts. God manifested Himself in the flesh and died and then sent back His Spirit to lead and guide men into ALL TRUTH.

          • Guest

            Christ fulfilled the Old Law, and it passed just as He promised. Christians are only under the New Covenant. If you aren’t fretting about how many fibers there are in your shirts you aren’t living under the old Law, that whole ‘jot or tittle’ thing stated multiple times in the Old Testament restated by James, and Paul. Keep it all or you aren’t keeping it at all.

            I will go Christ’s promise of its passing when He fulfilled it with His blood sacrifice. You are free to live your life as you choose though it will not necessarily help you when you are before the Throne and held to the metric of the New Covenant.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No sorry the Messiah nailed only the law of sin and death to the cross. This meaning that if you sinned you would eventually die unless you brought a sacrifice and with some sins you just died. The blood of the Messiah became your sacrifice so that you can be redeemed from death unto life. Because without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins. Even Paul stated he had to keep his flesh under subjection least he himself become a case away. The blood of the Messiah does not give you license to break the laws of God. Every time you sin you crucify Him afresh and put Him to an open shame. You are more or less saying you do not value what He did for you. Should we sin (Transgress Gods laws) because grace abounds? God forbid!

          • Guest

            Again you have a right to your opinion but that Christ fulfilled the old law and it passed is Sunday school lessons for Protestants. Jesus’s yoke is light but you can wear the OK’d chains if you think you must.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            True freedom is understanding why the instructions were given and why He came and shed His blood. You are in bondage to traditions and doctrines of men. Mans ways always put us in bondage but His ways are higher and make men free. I assure you that once I started studying and putting into practice what the word of God says apart from traditions and doctrines that trickled down from the Roman Catholic church, that I experience a very deep relationship with the Messiah. History is a wonderful place to find out why you practice the things you do. Start a study and you may be surprised. Study your bible without your sects bias and only the desire to know God.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Thank you. The idea that nothing has really changed than Christ giving a ‘get out of Hell’ pass is a ridiculous notion. It makes far more sense that the two Covenants are separate and sequential especially considering a condition of the Old was that not keeping the smallest part is the same as not keeping it all.

            I have studied and considered the notion that the Old and New Covenant are contemporaneous and it doesn’t make spiritual sense and most definitely is not what the Spirit guides both in myself and those I know who are far more demonstrative of its fruit than I.

            Again, if you think you must keep the Old Covenant then do so for doing what you think is wrong is wrong whether it really is or not.

            I have never been under the Old Covenant having no Jewish heritage and am only under the New. The law is to love and forgive, and all sin is in failing to love and forgive, and what I repent is all my failed opportunities to do so and to do so more than I did.

            Beyond that its all in God’s hands. God Bless.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Fulfill does not mean to do away with. That is the greek way of thought not a Hebrew way of thinking. Jesus said… I did NOT come to do away with the law but to fulfill it. That is to make it full , to bring it to it’s full meaning. You are saying the opposite of what Jesus said when they asked Him if He came to do away with the law. You say yes he did and he says no he did not. The problem is your understanding of what they were asking him, because you are 2,000 years removed from their culture and religious beliefs. These are Hebrews asking a Jewish teacher if he is going to destroy or make more full the instructions God gave. Jewish Rabbis were said to destroy if they disagreed on a law & to fulfill if they built up the instructions and expounded their true meaning. Just like if you are angry with a man it is as if you murdered him. You really have not committed murder but Jesus was fulfilling that commandment by giving a deeper meaning. Anger is not a sin but it can lead to sin. Love is the heart of the law. The law was only given because men needed to see where they hurt their relationship to both God & their fellow man. When you love others you don’t steal, cheat, lie or murder, etc etc… When you love God, you don’t have other gods or keep their images around, you do what you know pleases Him. Love fulfills the commandments because it is the heart of the law.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Your opinion. That this was Jesus foreshadowing His sacrifice and the passing of the Old Covenant Law is taught in Sunday School.

            You think you have to keep the yoke of the Old Law on, then do so, I prefer the light yoke of Christ.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            The new covenant is the LAW of GOD written upon the HEART.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Again, we are in agreement.

          • Louise

            Have you ever read Romans 1

          • Ronald Carter

            You don’t need anything from the Bible about marriage. Marriage predates the Bible, and Christianity does not own it.

          • Charles

            Well.. That would kinda tough, because God created the Universe and everything in it.. Not to mention he’s the Alpha and Omega…

          • Ronald Carter

            And yet there was marriage before the Bible existed. Hmmm.

          • Charles

            And yet God told you in the beginning what happened…. He was there in beginning remember?

          • Ronald Carter

            Well considering how marriage included polygamy and bartering for goats and camels, maybe it’s not quite the constant you think it was.

          • Ronald Carter

            So “effeminate” means homosexual now? On what planet?

          • Charles

            Where did I say that….

          • Chrissy Vee

            No, it mans a man acting like a woman. A man with feminine characteristics of a woman. Many homosexual males and transgenders fit into that description. N’est ce pas?

          • Ronald Carter

            No, that’s a stereotype and not a very good or accurate one. I would think if they meant homosexual they would have said homosexual.

          • Chrissy Vee

            The word homosexual didn’t even exist until 1946. You are trying so desperately, but you will never change the truth.

            For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine 1 Timothy 1:10

            Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind 1 Corinthians 6:9
            The Greek word(s) for homosexuals means ‘man who lies in bed/has sex with another man. Go ahead and deny it. You’re only lying to yourself to justify your sin.

          • Guest

            1 Timothy is an attempt to recreate the 10 commandments for those under the new Covenant. It mentions adultery with women and adultery for men just where you’d expect end to end, to cover the ‘thou shalt not commit adultery’.

            Again, it is adultery that’s the sin, not the sex of the person you are having it with.

          • Chrissy Vee

            You are so in denial. You love your sin. You condone others sins instead of admonishing or leading them to freedom from it. You are a dangerous person who needs to repent. God will not be mocked.

          • Guest

            And yet God is mocked by those usurping His sole right of judgment in these forums every day. I don’t love my failures to love, I don’t love my failures to forgive – I review how I could have done both better daily and ask forgiveness for my failures to do them.

            You should try it.

          • Chrissy Vee

            I do love and forgive. I also tell the truth. You do not read or understand God’s Word if you don’t see the error of your ways. You follow the world, and Jesus warns us not to conform to the world. He warns against sinning. He doesn’t tell us we are free to sin, but free from sin’s bondage. You cry with the world… Love love love… everybody is okay… there is no sin… just love…. God is love….
            Well, God is also just and holy. He hates sin. We must hate sin. We must love one another enough to point the way to Salvation FROM sin. Not wallow in the mire with them and tell them they are okay.

          • Guest

            And since I have said there is sin you just don’t want to acknowledge it because by God’s standards we are all woefully inadequate. The best we can do is no better than menstrual rags compared with the glorious raiment of God. No one is saved without His undeserved gift of Grace saying one person will get it and another will not because of flawed human judgment? No better way to insure it will pass them by.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Menstrual rags? Ew. What Bible are you reading? Who translated that for you? Sigh….

          • Guest

            You do realize that is the accurate translation of Isaiah 64:6 mentioning ‘filthy rags’ in the ‘lite’ translations, right?

            The Hebrew expression בֶ֥גֶד עִדִּ֖ים literally means “garments of menstruation.”

          • Chrissy Vee

            EEwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! lol I thought it was just like dirty, used, raggy clothing or something. Good grief!

          • Ronald Carter

            So menstrual rags offend you but you think nothing of throwing around a word like “sodomite”?

          • Chrissy Vee

            Yep.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Yes and you may wish to read that verse in it’s context.

          • Guest

            I have, don’t worry about that.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Jesus said: “Judge not, that you be not judged” (Matthew 7:1).

            Does this mean we are never to judge? Certainly not, for Jesus also said: “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment” (John 7:24).

            We are commanded to exercise righteous judgment. This means we study the word of God and anything that departs from the ways written within those pages will be known to us. If we love our fellow man we will tell them when they are transgressing the ways of God so that they might repent and return. People make judgements each and every day about what is wrong or right , it’s a part of life. To judge with righteous judgement you go a step farther by judging right and wrong not by mere opinion but by God’s instructions.

          • Guest

            Exactly, righteous judgement:

            Have they accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior?
            Have the become one with the Spirit? Do they show the fruit of the Spirit?
            Do they do as Jesus commanded, Love God, Love others, Love themselves and forgive others as they would have God forgive them?

            Done? Righteous judgement is over – the only judgment left is God’s and our job is the same whatever our mortal judgment – love and forgive them their trespasses against us.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No HE said go and teach all nations. Paul was not being hateful but loving the church when he corrected their behaviors to line up with the word of God. JESUS said if you love HIM KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. Paul said … Now I beseech you, brethren, MARK them which cause divisions and offenses CONTRARY TO THE DOCTRINE which ye have LEARNED; and avoid them. For they that are such SERVE not our Lord Jesus Christ, but THEIR OWN BELLY; and by good words and fair speeches DECEIVE the hearts of the simple. For your OBEDIENCE is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple CONCERNING EVIL. And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

            The only scriptures the believes had were the old testament. The epistles of Paul and the other apostles were not put together until all of them had long died. Paul was a jew who studied under Gamaliel. This is major because anyone who studied under Gamaliel knew the scriptures like the back of their hand by memory. They had to just to become a student of Gamaliel. So it is no wonder that the 2 Pete 3 says that Pauls epistles speak things that are hard to be understood which the UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE wrest , as they do also the OTHER SCRIPTURES, unto their OWN DESTRUCTION.

            Paul was a studier of the law and when accused of speaking against the law, fervently denied the charges and said they were false. Yet people still say his writings are telling them the law is done away. If they were learned in the scriptures they would have no problem understanding Pauls words.

            Again remember there was NO NEW TESTAMENT when paul wrote 2 Timothy 3 … He wrote about the only scriptures he knew and had at the time saying…. “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their OWN SELVES, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without NATURAL AFFECTIONS, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, DESPISERS of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures MORE THAN lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the POWER thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, ever learning, and never able to come to the KNOWLEDGE of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also RESIST THE TRUTH: men of CORRUPT MINDS, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast LEARNED and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the HOLY SCRIPTURES, which ARE ABLE TO MAKE THEE WISE UNTO SALVATION through FAITH which is in Christ Jesus. ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is PROFITABLE FOR DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION IN RIGHTEOUSNESS : That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

            The HOLY SCRIPTURES Paul is referring to are the only ones available…. > The old testament > The Torah ( First 5 books of the bible), the Psalms and the Writings. He was not talking about his letters written back to different churches.

          • Guest

            Yelling won’t help. That the Old Testament can be educational is a given, that it has passed is also. Gal. 3:23-25, we are under faith, not the Old Covenant law. And the scripture mentioned in 2 Timothy was the writings of Paul,

          • ComeOnPeople!

            How do I whisper, I’m so confused. LOL

          • Chrissy Vee

            Shhh your LOtooL

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Believe it or not some of us don’t believe the law is done away with. Not one jot or title will pass from the law until heaven and earth pass away. Sorry but Murder is still wrong, idolatry is still a sin, stealing a sin, worshiping other Gods a sin, bearing false witness a sin. Messiah did not die so we could continue to sin but to cover us with His blood when we do so and come to Him. His law is Holy, righteous and good it is mean who broke the covenant , God never breaks covenant. His words are yeah and amen. His promises never fail. The definition of sin in the new testament… “Sin is the transgression of the law.” If you saw the law is done away with , then men no longer commit sin.

          • Guest

            Ah you aren’t a Christian and are still under the Old Covenant which means you are of Jewish ancestry.

            I apologize. I am not of Jewish ancestry and have never been under the Old Covenant and only under the New.

            Hope you had a good Passover,

            שם יברך

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I had a wonderful Passover. Thank you for the greeting.

            How are you under the new covenant if you don’t believe in the law. The bible states the new covenant is the LAW of God written upon the heart.

            And no by your definition of a Christian , I am not. But by the definition of the word Christian which is Christ like… I am because like Him I keep the law of God, yet unlike him I have the need of a savior because I fall short. He did not come , bleed and die so that men could continue to transgress His Law. He died because they broke it, because they needed a change of heart. If you say the law is done away so to is sin because the very definition for sin is … Transgression of the Law. So you don’t even need a savior if the law is done away. I for one need a savior because I sometimes transgress His law.

          • Guest

            And the law is love and forgiveness, sin is failing to do that perfectly. Again I’m not Jewish never been under the old law. If you are Jewish then keep it if you want but its a bargain I’ve never been a part of.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I’m not Jewish and no the definition of sin is in the new testament . It clearly states that sin is the transgression of the law. And in revelations Jesus will tell those who transgress His instructions to depart from Him … He never knew them. It’s a relationship and just as you could not remain in a relationship that continues to be unfaithful to your marriage covenant , He will not continue in an unfaithful relationship. It’s not one sided. Relationships are built on trust and commitment, not on only one keeping their part of the deal. He did not come, bleed and die so you could continue in sin. He did so that when you fall short of the relationship you can be restored but if you continue in sin He will turn you over to your own lusts & a reprobate mind.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            And the law is to love and forgive and all sin is in failing to love and forgive.

          • Chrissy Vee

            I sense “Guest” is a TBN watcher.

          • Cady555

            Not one jot or tittle shall pass away?

            Do women in your family leave town when they menstruate?

            Do you eat fried shrimp or bacon cheeseburgers or lobster rolls?

            Do you wear cotton polyester blends?

            Or is it only the jots and tittles that permit you to feel holier than those other people that haven’t passed away?

          • Guest

            Mistranslations. Malakos (literally ‘soft’) was the term used for male prostitutes that no matter the sex of their clients. Roman letters talk about groups of women wondering if they should hire the ‘malakos’ for the evening party.

          • Cady555

            You forgot covetous and drunkards and revilers.

            Revile verb to assail with contemptuous or opprobrious language; address or speak of abusively.

            How come preachers aren’t freaking out about greedy back stabbers claiming to be christians? Oh yeah, we need money for the new building.

            When you finish kicking out drinkers, gossipers, the greedy,and those who speak contemptuously of others from your church declaring that they arent even christians, then you can worry about those other people.

            Take the sheet of ply wood from your own eye before worrying about the speck in someone else’s. Who said that? I wonder who he was talking about?

          • Charles

            If I was a homosexual, telling someone else that God doesn’t except homosexuality you would have a point.. But since that’s not the case… Irrelevant.

          • Chrissy Vee

            The concept existed…. the word ‘homosexual; did not. Sorry to disappoint.

          • Guest

            If the concept existed there was a word for it. You can’t just ret-con the past you wish had happened.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Sodomite ring bells?

          • Guest

            The devilish word penned 3500 years after the city was destroyed for acting like Republicans? Mistranslating Hebrew terms for the priest and priestesses of the Caanite religion as if they were citizens of those towns?

            Yeah, every person who uses the term probably isn’t a Christian at all.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Men with men ring a bell. Yup it’s in the word and it’s displeasing to God.

          • Guest

            Acts of adultery? Same opinion He has towards adultery with women.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Oh my not only do you not know your bible but you don’t know history!

          • Guest

            I’m pretty sure much more than you.

            Take care.

          • Fabian Kawo

            Guest? Charles is right,either you don’t believe the bible or you never read it. How ignorant, Leviticus 18:22 reads No man is to have sexual relationship with another man. God hates that.

          • Guest

            That was a command for those under the Old Covenant not in the Body of Christ, a kind of adultery and fornication. Doesn’t have anything to do with Christians under New Covenants and their spouses.

          • 0pus37

            Christians regard the New Testament as the guide to moral behavior.
            You couldn’t possible understand, since you only believe in following the crowd, like livestock do.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No, I believe in “live and let live.” I was pro gay rights LONG before it was cool.

          • The Last Trump

            So why you here, Mr. “live and let live”?
            Your walk doesn’t seem to match your talk, does it?
            Guess you’ll be moving along now then huh.
            Yeah. Didn’t think so.
            Live and let live he says! Funny guy! 🙂

          • gogo0

            how is opposing christian sharia being imposed on him and everyone else everyone incompatible with ‘live and let live’?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Why, what rights have I taken from you?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            It’s difficult for him to see that speck in your eye, Trump, when he has a redwood forest in his.

          • Ronald Carter

            I happen to agree with him.

          • Ronald Carter

            I happen to agree with Ambulance Chaser. You know he is a lawyer, right?

          • gizmo23

            How much wood in your eye?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Probably not as much as the wood in your eye when you posted disgusting things, like your “scraping wombs” in your basement, on Live Action News.

          • gizmo23

            It was fun

          • Guest

            Since those in the body of Christ are neither male nor female. Sexual orientation is irrelevant to Christians

          • Charles

            You are while on this earth.

          • Guest

            Nope. Paul was speaking in the present tense. And the martyrs lumped under St Valentine were done so because they were marrying people between social classes as this same passage also said didn’t exist.

            Galatians is here and now for us in the body of Christ.

          • Chrissy Vee

            It’s certainly not irrelavent to God.

          • Guest

            Considering there is no ‘male nor female’ in the body of Christ and there is no ‘marry or marriage’ in the next world where we will all be like the angels in heaven, i.e. same gender or genderless take your pick, its not real high on His list of concerns.

            He wants us to love God, others and ourselves, and forgive others in the same way we what God to forgive us. That’s our job as Christians, all of our failures and troubles come from our not doing these things.

          • Chrissy Vee

            No. God judged homosexuality as sin. I agree with God. Fornication is a sin. God said so. I agree with God. Murder is a sin… Are you getting it yet? You try and change it, but you can’t. There is nothing you can do or say. We are not judging, God already has. We just agree with Him. It is very dangerous to continue to live in sin and try to change God’s Word and holy nature into man’s lustful depraived nature.

          • Guest

            No Paul said that sex outside of marriage would block people from heaven for it is a failure to love as all we must do flows from that simply worded but very difficult thing to accomplish.

            And every time we fail to love we are transgressing God’s commandments for us. Seems to me you are fretting about what meats to eat, what days to celebrate or how many fibers can I have in my clothes.

            I walk in the next world, you seem obsessed with this. God will decide and I welcome His decision. Yours on the other hand I hope He forgives.

          • Chrissy Vee

            God is love, but He hates sin. Why would Jesus pay such a price of His own blood if sinners could just go on sinnig? God is love, but He is holy too. If you truly loved people, you would tell them the truth.
            I love sinners enough to tell them the truth. Truth sets us free. It is all over the Bible that he who practices sin (including homosexuality) will not make it to heaven. He said it. God. You will have to face the lie you believe and calling Him a liar. The bible is very clear. It is not difficult to comprehend.

          • Guest

            I get the impression you don’t know what sin is. Failing to love is sin, failing to forgive is sin – that is what we under the New Covenant have been commanded to do – all that we must do flows from these things.

            Does God want us to sin? Of course not! But the sex you have sex with isn’t part of that – why you are having sex is where the sin lies.

            And yes God was very clear and may obsessed with ‘the gah’ are devoid of all that God asked of us, they are without the fruit of the Spirit, without mercy, and no better than the Pharisees in their legalism and judgement. I pray for them and failing that I pray God will forgive them their trespasses against Him regardless for they truly ‘know not what they do.’

          • Chrissy Vee

            Well there Guest, you don’t get much if that is the impression you got. Failing to tell people about there sin is failing to love them. Commending people in their sin shows no mercy. You have it so backwards. And I also pray for them as well and have homosexual friends. So sorry to tell you, you have pegged me wrong. “Obsessed with gay”? Ok then, well, if an article is about gay, like this one, most people will be commenting on the article… which is about “gay” and as of late there are a lot of articles about “gay”… so…. if you find me in an article about gay, that is what I will be commenting on and ifthe article is about abortion, i will probably be commenting on abortion… about ISIS, than ISIS does that make a person obsessed?
            The bible also makes clear that we are to judge righteously. God calls sin sin. So do we. Tell me, is saying that we are like the Pharisees and devoid of the fruits of the Spirit judging us? Me thinkest yes.

          • Guest

            No, its an observation, not a judgement. The fruit of the Spirit are obvious in those that have them, those devoid of love don’t show them. So many yell ‘Lord Lord’ but without love in their heart it will do them no good in the end.

            And again, I have said that sin is failure to love and forgive and yes I do point that out in people but more show by example. I have never advocated tolerating those who do not love or forgive, those with hard hearts and legalistic bends. They will be judged and their lack of mercy may make even God’s gift of Grace to be not enough. He knows, and will decide appropriately as is His right.

            Love and forgive or judgement may come as God has said. Let the Spirit in to your heart or it will remain empty forever.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Oh, I see… an observation. What you may call legalism, I call truth. And people who actually know me, including our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ, know my heart. They know my spirit.
            My calling sin what it is, shows discernment. If that leads you to believe, I have not the fruits of the Holy Spirit in me… that’s your judgement. I am not worried about yours, but God’s. When a fellow sister or brother in Christ admonishes or rebukes me according to truth, I heed, I repent and I thank God for them. The vexxing of my spirit that this convo has stirred up will lead me to repentance and praying for you as well.

          • Guest

            And I’m not worried about your judgement only God’s.

            I have already prayed for you and asked God to forgive you your trespasses against all as I have my own.

          • Chrissy Vee

            Thank you. 🙂 Praying for people is a most powerful, loving thing to do.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Said about Paul … 2 Pet 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, which they that are UNLEARNED and UNSTABLE WREST (or twist), as [they do] ALSO the OTHER SCRIPTURES, unto their own destruction.

            Paul was a student under Gamaliel … in order to be a student of Gamaliel one had to know the Hebrew bible inside and out.

            The problem with Pauls letters written back to different churches is that, gentiles had not been taught or raised up knowing the scriptures and Pauls letters to help them were hard to be understood. Just like if I am learning anything for the first time. Those who know it well may write to me to explain but being unlearned, I may take their meaning wrong or make it fit into my understanding. Unless you were raised knowing the ways of God you would be starting from ground zero .

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Exactly – so what’s easier – thinking that the Old is still relevant or that something New is happening? We know that the hardest lessons Jesus had to teach was that the world the Apostles saw was not the way it was at all.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Truth is not about what is easier. Truth is what it is… truth. Unlike the Roman Catholics church who made it easier for pagans to be included into the church by mixing pagan forms of worship with true worship… I refuse to go the easy route. As to your last sentence. Jesus was a Jew who kept the law to a T. Had he broken even one commandment He would not be the promised Messiah. The world the Apostles lived in was based on the scriptures . The only problem Jesus had was when men set their laws above His. The Oral law was set beside the Law of God and sometimes even superseded it. He disapproved of this way of living not of living according to His ways.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            And I agree with you and many Christian brethren set their laws above Christ’s commandment to love God, others, and ourselves, to forgive others and repent all our lost opportunities to do both. Need look only at the obsession of some with transgender people having permission to use the same bathrooms they have always used to see how the minds of even Christians can get bogged down in the the things of this world, living in fear and doubt rather than love and mercy.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            The problem people have is not with Transgender using the restrooms they have always used. The problem is in LAWS being made to support them using it. Because when made law it opens the door for all males to use the ladies room, otherwise any male can cry discrimination under that law. Disagreeing with someones ideas or lifestyle is not hate. Love doesn’t agree with everyone. Many times love says no , just as when a teen wants to do drugs or dabble in a lifestyle that would harm him. If a parent says do whatever you feel is right then they don’t love their son they love not having to be bothered. Love has no trouble with being bothered and will speak truth even if it means conflict will ensue . Christ came to bring a sword… the word of God is a two edged sword, it’s core is love… and love cuts out anything that could destroy the children of God. His instructions are not suggestions and He gave those instructions not because He hates you but because He loves you. He is love and His instructions were given to bring man kind back in relationship with Him. Thou shalt not murder was given because men kill, Thou shalt not steal was given because men stole from each other, thou shalt not commit adultery was given because couples were being unfaithful to their covenant of marriage…. the Law was given to help us love both God and man. If you remove God’s instructions, you remove love because then you can treat men as you wish and worship God how you please.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Actually no it doesn’t anymore than it did before.But your loss of paragraphing and rambling syntax means we’ve probably reached the end of this discussion.

          • Guest

            Other than Paul saying that class, religion and sex were irrelevant to those in the body of Christ.

            Fret about it if you wish, I’m too busy worrying about the things God commanded me to do.

          • Chrissy Vee

            You seem more worried about Christians calling out sin. I will always care (what you deem fretting) about what God cares about. Especially when it comes to someone’s soul. We need to agree to disagree because this conversation is obviously going nowhere.

          • Guest

            Of call out people who aren’t loving and forgiving frequently and often, I do it here with people frequently – can’t have a hard heart and the Spirit at the same time.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            When you truly love someone, you protect them from harming even themselves. I told my son to not touch the hot stove not because I hate him but because I didn’t want him to get hurt. When he touched it and got burned, I forgave him but again said now don’t touch it mommy loves you and only forbids you to do things that I know will harm you. Love is not passive. The bible says Love speaks truth and Jesus said … ” If you LOVE me keep my commandments”

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            I completely agree. That’s why when I see brethren who seem to have forgotten their obligation to love and forgive I point it out often and clearly. Look at this – a state passed an unconstitutional law to give some holders of some religious beliefs special rights, a clear violation of God’s Law and the US Constitution that the FLOTUS commented on and the response by some is void of love and the Spirit. Correction is in order.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            That is totally out of context and is for when you enter heaven.

          • ʇsǝnƃ

            Again, read the passage. in Greek Paul is talking in the present tense. The several martyrs lumped under the legend of ‘St. Valentine’ were using this passage as justification to marry those between different social classes forbidden under Roman law and died because of that belief.

            We are in the body of Christ right now as we have been since then. Any role a male can fulfill a female can and vis versa as a foreshadow when we are in the next world where there is no marry or marriage and we will all be as the angels in heaven regarding sex and gender, i.e. none and all the same.

          • Ronald Carter

            There are many, many homosexual-friendly Christian congregations in the area I live in.

          • Charles

            I’m sorry to hear that.

          • Ronald Carter

            Don’t be…it’s progress.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No it’s false religion. They shall believe a lie and be damned . Deception is just that… Deception. Calling Good evil and evil good. They are so deceived that the bible says … they will kill God’s people thinking they are doing Him a favor.

          • Ronald Carter

            “False religion” = The No True Scotsman fallacy. Just because it conflicts with your beliefs does not make it false. From where I’m standing a few Christian congregations finally got it through their heads that what science has been saying to you forever is finally beginning to sink in.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Science when it conflicts with the word of God is nothing more then a lie.

          • Ronald Carter

            No, science when it conflicts with the word of God is still science, in other words observable and repeatable truth. If I had a belief that was disproven by science, I’d have to question my faith, in fact, since faith is not science and never will be.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Yep Faith is just that faith and a child of God lives by faith. Children of self or the devil live by their own ideas and their own understandings. God’s ways are higher then our ways, His thoughts higher then ours. He created everything we see taste or touch & even those things we cannot see. All knowledge comes from Him not man’s own intellect. To say we know better of how things work is to say we are wiser then the one who Created it all. But hey the word of God told us this time would come, so it’s no surprise. The created worshipping the created and not the Creator.

          • Max

            Who determines if they’re Christians?
            You?
            Who died and made you Judge of the World?
            No homosexual is qualified to determine who is or is not Christian.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            The Obamas get to determine their own religion. Not me, and nor anyone else.

            And who is homosexual in this story?

          • Ronald Carter

            Who determines if YOU are Christian? Just you, right? Your saying so is good enough, so why isn’t it good enough when the Obamas say it?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Maybe it’s because I’m not a member of any religion myself, but I just kind of laugh a little bit when one of these conversations turns into an argument over if someone’s a “true Christian” or not. (which I’m beginning to think is really just code for “a Christian that believes the same things I do”)

            What makes heterosexuals more qualified to determine if someone is a Christian or not, anyway? What about merely being homosexual means you can’t? (not that I think it’s anybody’s business but one’s own to declare if they’re a ‘true believer’ or not)

      • Chrissy Vee

        “Joined it” hahaha… still at it I see AC. They are as much Christian as you are. Deal.

        • The Last Trump

          And he also claimed above that he believes in “live and let live”!!
          Can you believe it?
          Trolling Christian websites 24/7 is a funny way to promote live and let live!
          Who knew he was so funny?….

          • Chrissy Vee

            TRUMP! 😀
            Well, AC and most people… and this includes some Christians (God forbid) who say “live and let live” are really saying “live and let die” and they don’t even see it!

          • gizmo23

            if you agree it is thoughtful discussion, if you don’t it’s trolling

          • Ronald Carter

            Anyone who thinks you are wrong and tells you so is “trolling a Christian website”? Guest above is Christian and disagrees with you, is he also a troll?

  • 0pus37

    If jobs matched mental ability, she would be vacuuming carpet and changing sheets in motel rooms. Wonder if she can name all 57 states like the Obamessiah?

    • Bob Johnson

      So that is what one should do with a law degree from Harvard Law School – maid at a motel? Is this for all lawyers or just J.D’s from Harvard?

      • TallZeke

        George W. Bush has a Harvard degree, and you leftards say he’s an idiot, so obviously there are idiots with a Harvard degree.

  • sammy13

    I want no “female thinking she is a he” in a public latrine/restroom, while I am in there taking care of business. I am confident that most females would be very comfortable knowing that no man dressed as a female or as a man was not in the ladies room.

    Whatever happened to common sense?

    • Chrissy Vee

      Not so common anymore. :/

    • Ambulance Chaser

      It got replaced by evidence.

      • The Last Trump

        Ahhh! THAT’S what happened.
        🙂
        For thousands of years we very wisely knew that men and women have to be segregated in order to pee in privacy safely.
        But just now, THIS hedonistic, morally and financially bankrupt generation of nitwits has figured it out! We’ve actually been doing it wrong ALL THIS TIME!
        We’ve been doing it BACKWARDS!! No borders and no privacy!
        Just a giant free for all, eh AC?
        Riiiight. “Evidence” he says! Yikes.

        • Chrissy Vee

          Yikes indeed! (o_O)

        • gizmo23

          People in some countries think nothing off using the restroom in front of others

        • Ronald Carter

          I asked you this before, but what does a bathroom issue have to do with finance and hedonism? Homosexuals might have been privately ogling you in bathrooms for years and you probably never thought twice about it until now. But somehow transgendered people are going to make it all worse?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Yes. That is correct. Our views about gender have been wrong all this time.

        • gizmo23

          Roe v Wade was based on the right of privacy. That privacy right is not in the constitution even for voting

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Replaced by fantasy and fiction. The evidence is there in black and white when you take your clothes off.

        • gizmo23

          I would feel weird if someone took their clothes off while in a public bathroom

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Yes me to this is why I insist everyone pee and poo threw their clothing. That way they never have to face the reality of which gender they are while in a public restroom.

          • gizmo23

            I don’t get naked to use the bathroom and if need be i use a stall.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Yes, that’s it. It’s that simple. I guess all those doctors and scientists can pack up and go home. There’s nothing more to learn.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Yes Transgender is that simple . You just have them drop their pants and explain realities and known truths that have existed up until all this propaganda and shrink docs got involved. As to the pee and poo threw their clothing that my friend is called being sarcastic out of the sheer propaganda lunacy going on for the past decade .

          • Ambulance Chaser

            That’s some brilliant psychology there, Doctor. I’m sure no one has ever thought of that before. And yet gender identity problems still exist. I wonder why…

          • ComeOnPeople!

            The problem is there because they are buying a load of goods and refuse to face reality.

  • Nidalap

    The new-minted ‘right to perversion’…
    The rights enshrined in our Constitution require protections to ensure the government doesn’t take them away. This new one requires the bludgeon of government to force it upon an unwilling populace…

    • gizmo23

      We do have the right to “perversion” under the constitution as long as it harms no one else

      • Nidalap

        It’s been said that “The right of a man to swing his arms ends just where the next man’s nose begins.”
        The perversion rights movement has been breaking noses left and right! Further, while their victims yet lie bleeding on the ground, they are scooped up and arrested for assault. Figuratively speaking, of course! (^_^)

        • gizmo23

          I don’t see how gay marriage, gay people, or transgender folks have done anything negative to our society

  • ComeOnPeople!

    Like any type of moral reasoning would ever come from the Obamas. They are an Obama-nation and are making the USA an Obama-nation . America elected a Transvestite first lady and a Gay man into office and we wonder why all these immoral agendas are being made into law. Duh. Listen to their owe words and you understand why. My favorite is when Obama called Michelle by his true name Micheal, in front of a crowd.

    • gogo0

      lol, you cant simply disagree with his policies, you feel the need to somehow think he is gay and his wife a transvestite!? some of you are absolutely ridiculous, and to hear this kind of un-christlike, hypocritical, and unsubstantiated tantrum is why a lot of atheists hang out on this board. your beliefs are on par with an Onion article.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        LOL Well there you have it a tantrum yourself. There were article that came out by people who knew him in the gay bars. Some by top officials. Go do your homework. As to his wife. Hey who knows but right before Joan Rivers died she said, EVERYONE knows Michael Obama is a Tranny. Not to Mention Obama himself has slipped a couple times in regard to Michael on tape and video. It’s called speculation not a tantrum. It’s called a theory . You gather evidence and try to make a case. Some Theories turn out to be false and others turn out to be true.

        • gizmo23

          So your political thought is based on what Joan Rivers said?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No it’s based on the Obama’s agendas and actions. Like cleave unto like.

  • Sam

    Shes just as bad as her husband. She needs to go back and look and the constitution about religious freedom and she needs to read the bible about trangender, gays and the religions she was talking about. There is only one God. He is not hindu or budhist or muslim. He is also againest homosexuality and men and women dressing like each other. God says love the sinner not the sin. Dont condone it. And dont push it on all of the true Christians. Christianity is free for all. Its not forced on anyone. So LGBT the Obamas and everyone else need to stop pushing their ignorance on us This country was founded on God. And unless it goes back to that. It will fall

    • gizmo23

      We all also have the right to express our freedom of religion or lack of and don’t have to cater to one faith or belief system

  • ComeOnPeople!

    So lets see you should be able to live out your beliefs hmmmm Well unless you have beliefs contrary to the LGBT community then by law their beliefs trump yours. You are now forced to drop your beliefs and cater to theirs.

    • Found One

      You do not get to “live out” your beliefs when they conflict with others.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Yes because we must have a bunch of brain dead zombies under the control of the elites that think for us all and tell us what we can or cannot believe.

  • Gena B

    Many may have been smiling to her face and talking a lot of smack when they got home, about how Satan is working overtime.

    • Found One

      What is a satan? Is that like a Hobbit?

  • Herb Planter

    wow i thought the civil rights stuff was over and we’d been living equal and free all this time. ty obama! NOT!

  • Herb Planter

    also just wanted to add, what is she doin speakin on this ? this isnt her place , what about states’ rights?

    • Found One

      Of course it is her place. As a Planter, you should know that the civil war answered the state’s rights question.

  • Coach

    I agree with that statement “How easy it is to single out a small group and marginalize them because of who they are or who they love”, that’s what’s being done all around our nation to the small group of true Christians who love the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • TheBottomline4This

    What you call progress Michelle, is not progress to God and His Word. Silly girl.

  • Found One

    Ms. Obama understands how this country was formed without god running things.

  • Found One

    If we let Jesus make a few laws, then we must let Vishnu and Allah make a few also. Do christians wish to dance to the tune of the Upanishads?

  • Found One

    We intentionally block Jesus from our law so that we do not have to admit all the gods to our laws.

  • Found One

    Christians seem to think that religious freedom gives them carte blanche for whatever they want, and no one else has it. You will be directed to your proper place in the line.

  • Amy

    Wow, Christians versus child molesters, and look who the president and first lady side with. We’re ten times more immoral than ancient Rome ever was.

  • peanut butter

    If she’s talking about standing side by side with Christians, she needs to remember that freedom of exercise of religion is as much a law as the freedom for blacks to vote. And I am for both, so don’t anybody get your drawers in a knot. I never thought I would see the day that one civil liberty would be thought of as to overrule or outweigh another.