U.S. Justice Department Demands North Carolina Not Enforce New Restroom Law

Womens Restroom-compressedWASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Justice has sent a letter to the governor of North Carolina declaring that a newly-passed law requiring the use of government restrooms to be consistent with one’s birth gender violates the federal Civil Rights Act, and is demanding confirmation by Monday that officials “will not comply with or implement” the restroom requirement.

The letter, issued Wednesday to Gov. Pat McCrory, was written by Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Vanita Gupta, and accuses the state of violating federal law by not allowing men who identify as women and vice versa in the restroom that correlates with their gender identity.

“The State is engaging in a pattern or practice of discrimination against transgender state employees, and both you in your official capacity and the state are engaging in a pattern or practice of resistance to the full enjoyment of Title VII rights by transgender employees of public agencies,” she wrote.

The correspondence focused on government employees who identify as the opposite gender.

“Access to sex-segregated restrooms and other workplace facilities consistent with gender identity is a term, condition or privilege of employment,” Gupta said. “Denying such access to transgender individuals, whose gender identity is different from the gender assigned at birth, while affording it to similarly situated non-transgender employees, violates Title VII.”

The cited section of federal law prohibits employers from discriminating against a person because of their gender. The law has generally been considered as applying to discrimination against women in treating females as inferior to males.

Gupta also referenced Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, which prohibits educational institutions from discriminating against a person based on their gender.

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“No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance,” it reads.

But Gupta says that the courts have interpreted the law as applying to gender identity issues as well, and therefore, “H.B. 2, which took effect on March 23, 2016, is facially discriminatory against transgender employees on the basis of sex because it treats transgender employees, whose gender identity does not match their biological sex, as defined by H.B. 2, differently from similarly situated non transgender employees.”

She gave McCrory until Monday to advise the Department of Justice that the state will not “comply with or implement” the state’s newly-passed restroom law, and that it will notify state employees that “they are permitted to access bathrooms and other facilities consistent with their gender identity.”

McCrory has yet to comment on the letter, but has advised in previous comments that H.B. 2 permits those who identify as transgender to use the restroom that correlates with their preferred identity if they obtain a revised birth certificate.

North Carolina could be stripped of millions in federal funding if its stands its ground in upholding its prohibitions against men in women’s restrooms and vice versa. The law solely applied to government buildings and did not govern private businesses, which are free to set their own policies.


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  • TheBottomline4This

    Aww, the support for the mental/emotional issues of the trans presses forward, lol. Seems that forcing is all the gay and trans agendas know how to do. Sad they are so intolerant and bigoted against Truth.

    • The Last Trump

      I know, right?
      Discrimination!? Expecting actual, physical men to pee in the mens room!
      I knew we were headed for depravity and debauchery as our Bible’s warned us to expect, but THIS is a level of insanity I never thought I’d ever see! Sheer madness!
      What’s next!!??

      • TheBottomline4This

        You mentioned insanity. Not too long ago, for many centuries, if one were to proclaim that they were the opposite gender they would have been deemed mentally and emotionally unstable and maybe sent to a hospital for treatment.

        • gogo0

          they still do the same thing for people that speak to imaginary beings, yet christians and muslims do that all the time without treatment being imposed. one person’s insanity is another person’s normal, so long as it causes no harm to others, there is little reason to stop people from doing things.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Be very careful what you hope for Gogo.

          • gogo0

            I hope that people can live together happily and without imposing millennia-old dogmas on each other. I don’t see any danger in that

          • ComeOnPeople!

            It is not dogma but a social norm that one born with a penis is a male and one born with a vagina is a female. The dogma and propaganda lays in the media that is constantly trying to reshape social norms via images of perversions of the same.

          • NCOriolesFan

            This is Heaven is for, not on the rotten planet called Earth we’ve trashed.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Your Creator is imaginary to you and those who wish to recreate themselves in their own image & maybe just maybe that is the problem.

        • gizmo23

          They might also have been killed

          • TheBottomline4This

            Not really. Why worry about it if they were?

          • gizmo23

            So it doesn’t concern you if people are murdered?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Answer one question…are you pro life or pro choice??

          • gizmo23

            pro life, pro gay, pro gun

          • TheBottomline4This

            Hmm, for some reason Gizzy, I’m surprised you’re pro gun and pro life 🙂

          • gizmo23

            I’m mostly libertarian. As long as people don’t harm me or others I don’t care what they are or do. I also lean socialist in the classic term.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I’m an independent. It’s funny a lot of people assume I’m a repub all the way. So what about the cases, even though they may not get much mainstream press, where a man will dress as a female and then harm a woman or girl in the women’s bathroom. How are we supposed to handle those risks? I mean, if he is dressed as a woman, who are we to think he’s not?

          • gizmo23

            Plenty of people get harmed everyday and I don’t think the dress/bathroom thing is a major part of that. What’s to stop someone from doing that now. People find all ways to commit crimes. Anyway you are equating transgendered people with molesters and there is no evidence that there is a link. These laws are purely designed to get back at gay people and the transgendered for legal marriage.
            Many more people have posed as youth leaders, ministers, teachers and molested kids. Should we pass a law saying that those people can’t be around children?
            The entire issue is a solution in search of a problem and has become silly and destructive

          • TheBottomline4This

            “What’s to stop someone from doing that now. People find all ways to commit crimes” That’s the point…NOW those who do want to do wrong things have an easy in…they can claim they are the opposite and unless they are caught in the act, nothing will be done. This isn’t about fear of trans doing anything. If a man who “thinks” he’s a female would try anything, then he will get his balls kicked, just like the non trans will. This law just makes it a shoe in for them to get a way with whatever they want all under the guise they are the opposite sex.
            “get back at” gays and trans, lol. God will handled that better than I ever could.
            “youth leaders, ministers, teachers” keep in mind many coaches, political creeps have done the same thing, oh and even your and my neighbors.

          • gizmo23

            It wasn’t a problem in the past. Now all of a sudden it is. I don’t get it

          • Tony

            The Transgender Brain development
            How does the M to F Transgender?
            Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
            female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
            testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
            insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
            However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
            Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
            remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
            masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
            The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
            was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
            this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
            age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
            You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
            Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
            Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
            ***Trans-gender people are not the
            perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
            are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and audlt rapist in the world than
            Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
            with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
            two and completely different things.
            They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
            and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
            . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
            makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
            talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. … You are uneducated ….

            __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
            the same as that.
            *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
            nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
            I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
            Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
            since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
            on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Then you are not a libertarian but passive aggressive who only speaks out against something when it affects yourself. Some of us care about society as a whole.

          • gizmo23

            So do I and discrimination against a group of people hurts all society. Religious dogma should never trump civil rights or laws

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Do u really love God .?

          • gizmo23

            yes, I despise government being involved in my faith and my faith using government to promote itself. I have no business telling others how they should believe or act unless it harms someone else

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            But this issue is not really about faith.
            …….The pro-transgender bathroom laws of the liberal Blue States, as practiced by their Target stores n high-schools, increase the risk of girls/women being harmed by male sexual predators/voyeurs who masquerade as transvestites to enter women’s bathrooms/restrooms, …n intrude the privacy n modesty of girls/women by the presence of penises of transvestites or masquerading transvestites in the women’s bathroom/restroom.

            The pro-transgender bathroom laws allow a male sexual predator/voyeur who is dressed as a man, to legally enter women’s bathrooms/restrooms by just claiming that he is a transgender or believe in his mind that he is a woman.
            …….This is similar to how easy it is to go to a doctor n get sick leave by pretending to hv a stomachache/diarrhea or headache or pms, or to get prescription pills by pretending to hv anxiety or insomnia.

            If u hv a teen-daughter or young wife or sister or female relatives, would u be comfortable with such liberal pro-transgender bathroom laws in large stores, high-schools, colleges, etc that may put yr loved ones in danger or sexual exposure from male sexual predators/voyeurs who take advantage of such laws.?.

          • gizmo23

            It is pure fear mongering and a non issue

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Isn’t it unloving of u to ignore the fears of women/girls who hv voiced their opposition to the liberal pro-transgender bathroom laws.?

            Let’s just see whether the liberal pro-transgender bathroom laws as r beginning to be practiced by their Target stores, high-schools, colleges, etc will really be pure fear-mongering.

          • gizmo23

            All these terrible things were going to happen when gay marriage took effect, nothing happened. This is just the latest in a long line of fear mongering issues that are just to stir people up and put money in the plate and frighten people

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            The agenda of SSM was mainly to procure the various spousal benefits being enjoyed by heterosexual married couples, eg military housing, inheritance, SS benefits, etc.
            …….Whether those terrible things or fears r proven fears or not will take some years, eg married gays n lesbians adopting babies. But one or 2 cases hv started been reported by adopted teenagers of gays/lesbians about being negatively affected by their abnormal upbringing.

          • gizmo23

            One or 2. Wow that’s plenty to change the law

          • Slidellman4life

            One or two? There are far more than that.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            To clarify, SSM was only legalized by the SCOTUS in June 2015. Homosexual couples only began adopting babies since then = hv the same adoption rights as normal married heterosexual couples.
            …….So, it will take some years to prove whether those fears or terrible things about the adopted kids of SSM couples r unfounded or not.

            The 1 or 2 cases I mentioned is about a woman who got married to a man some years ago, had babies, got divorced, changed into a lesbian n then cohabited with another lesbian, together with 1st lesbian’s kids. They finally got SSM-married after June 2015, ending up with adopted teenaged-kids.
            …….The teenage-daughter who reported being negatively affected by SSM, had grown up in the lesbian ‘family’ from toddler-age.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “SSM was only legalized by the SCOTUS in June 2015. Homosexual couples only began adopting babies since then”

            That’s not quite right. True, it was legal everywhere after June 2015, but there were same-sex couples allowed to adopt in some states before that, in some cases a good while before that.

          • Slidellman4life

            And that is the biggest load of bull I have read today.

            The fact is and remains anyone who would so willingly dismiss and disregard the very real and legitimate concerns of females are misogynist pigs.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “n intrude the privacy n modesty of girls/women by the presence of
            penises of transvestites or masquerading transvestites in the women’s
            bathroom/restroom.”

            LOL…..really? Just the mere PRESENCE of male genitalia somehow violates the privacy and modesty of women? Even if the woman doesn’t even know it’s there?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            Yes, really… LOL. ….
            h ttp: / /christiannews .n et / 2016/05/05/51-families-sue-obama-administration-for-forcing-school-district-to-allow-boy-in-girls-locker-room/

          • TheKingOfRhye

            And that answers the question I asked how exactly?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            R u dense.?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I asked how the mere presence of someone’s genitalia violates someone else’s privacy and modesty. (especially when not only might they not even be aware of it, they’re most likely in a separate stall, I would think….and you know, these are PUBLIC restrooms we’re talking about here. Is anybody guaranteed complete privacy and modesty in a public restroom, anyway?)…….and your response is to cite a story from this site about 51 families that sued about one particular case. Sorry, I don’t find that to be any kind of answer. Although, I do suppose that case is a little different, it’s a school, and everybody probably knows who the trans kid is there at this point.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            So, u do not mind the presence of women/girls while u r using the urinals in public men’s bathrooms/restrooms.?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Short version of my answer to you asking someone else that question in the thread that that link was to:

            No, not really. It’s not like I’m waving my privates around in there, and they probably wouldn’t be, either, I’m guessing. And how do you assume I’d even know if it’s a transgender male, anyway?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            R u dense.? ……. I said, “…the presence of women/girls”(= with vaginas, not penises)…

          • Tony

            The Transgender Brain development
            How does the M to F Transgender?
            Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
            female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
            testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
            insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
            However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
            Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
            remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
            masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
            The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
            was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
            this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
            age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
            You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
            Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
            Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
            ***Trans-gender people are not the
            perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
            are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and audlt rapist in the world than
            Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
            with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
            two and completely different things.
            They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
            and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
            . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
            makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
            talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. …

            __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
            the same as that.
            *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
            nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
            I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
            Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
            since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
            on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone ! YOU are the dense ones.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I might. But since transmen are men, the question is irrelevant.

          • Tony

            The Transgender Brain development
            How does the M to F Transgender?
            Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
            female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
            testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
            insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
            However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
            Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
            remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
            masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
            The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
            was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
            this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
            age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
            You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
            Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
            Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
            ***Trans-gender people are not the
            perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
            are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and audlt rapist in the world than
            Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
            with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
            two and completely different things.
            They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
            and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
            . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
            makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
            talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. … YOU ARE UNEDUCATED ^^^^^^

            __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
            the same as that.
            *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
            nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
            I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
            Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
            since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
            on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Well, I agree with most of that, except I’d say we should have acceptance of LGB along with the T. They’re not “all about sexual relationships with whoever” any more than most straight people are, it’s just that who they have those relationships with is what makes them different from the rest of us. And I’m certainly not bringing the Bible up here or saying anyone’s a sinner. I’m no Christian, I’m an atheist. I don’t do that kind of thing. Was that meant as a reply to someone else?

          • Tony

            The Transgender Brain development
            How does the M to F Transgender?
            Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
            female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
            testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
            insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
            However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
            Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
            remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
            masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
            The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
            was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
            this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
            age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
            You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
            Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
            Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
            ***Trans-gender people are not the
            perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
            are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and audlt rapist in the world than
            Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
            with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
            two and completely different things.
            They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
            and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
            . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
            makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
            talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. …

            __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
            the same as that.
            *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
            nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
            I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
            Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
            since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
            on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !

          • Ambulance Chaser

            “The pro-transgender bathroom laws allow a male sexual predator/voyeur who is dressed as a man, to legally enter women’s bathrooms/restrooms by just claiming that he is a transgender or believe in his mind that he is a woman.”

            No they don’t. You actually have to identify as female to use the ladies’ room, not just say you do.

            And…are you seriously arguing that the only thing keeping rapists at bay all this time was the fear of trespassing? They’re rapists; why would they care about committing a minor, nonviolent misdemeanor?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            That’s why the LGBTQs previously stayed hidden in the closet, eg Rock Hudson died of AIDS..

          • Tony

            NOT the TQAI I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
            Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
            since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
            on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !

        • Bill Scudder

          I don’t advocate it but “Civil war” may be next. Thomas Jefferson advocated it when federal government got to strong and dictatorial.

        • Tony

          WRONG they were given a high place in society Ancient Greeks and the American Indian __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
          the same as that.
          *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
          nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
          I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
          Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
          since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
          on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !
          The Transgender Brain development
          How does the M to F Transgender?
          Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
          female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
          testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
          insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
          However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
          Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
          remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
          masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
          The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
          was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
          this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
          age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
          You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
          Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
          Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
          ***Trans-gender people are not the
          perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
          are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and adult rapist in the world than
          Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
          with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
          two and completely different things.
          They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
          and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
          . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
          makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
          talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Crazy even still is the fact that gender confusion was considered a mental condition up until recently . So now we are forcing the sane to cater to the fantasies & imaginations of the insane? COME ON PEOPLE!!!

        • TheBottomline4This

          You are right, it is an emotional/mental issue.

          • NCOriolesFan

            More mental.

      • Tony

        You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
        the same as that.
        Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
        nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
        I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.

        Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone !

        The Transgender Brain development
        How does the M to F Transgender?
        Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
        female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
        testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
        insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
        However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
        Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
        remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
        masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
        The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
        was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
        this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
        age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
        You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
        Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
        Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
        ***Trans-gender people are not the
        perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
        are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and audlt rapist in the world than
        Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
        with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
        two and completely different things.
        They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
        and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
        . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
        makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
        talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females.

    • Tony

      Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
      nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Go doesn’t care about Gender , He care who follows Him. Judge Not , Lest Ye be Judged.. God made me and I am Trans-gender .. I am God created !!! ____________The Transgender Brain development
      How does the M to F Transgender?
      Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
      female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
      testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
      insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
      However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
      Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
      remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
      masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
      The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
      was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
      this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
      age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
      You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
      Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
      Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
      ***Trans-gender people are not the
      perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
      are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and adult rapist in the world than
      Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
      with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
      two and completely different things.
      They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
      and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
      . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
      makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
      talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. It is NOT A Mental issue is a GENETIC AND HORMONE ISSUE. You are uneducated.

  • D Sims

    There also is a burden of proof in these cases that the complaining party must demonstrate. Should be interesting to see how a trans person goes about doing this.

    • gizmo23

      I’m interested how you check one’s sex before they enter a bathroom

      • TheBottomline4This

        With most it’s easy to tell 🙂

        • NCOriolesFan

          MOST is the keyword but now-a-days, most is disregarded for the few and the least.

          • TheBottomline4This

            The minority are loud and are getting the attention they are screaming for. It will come back to bite them 🙂

        • gizmo23

          Most, not all. I’m sure we have all shared a restroom with a transgendered person and not even known it. Google Carmen Carrera and tell me what bathroom she should use

          • TheBottomline4This

            Well since Christopher is a male, he should go to the men’s room. Just the same for women who are posing as men should come to the women’s restroom. What harm would a woman dressed as a man be to me? None.

          • Jalapeno

            What harm does a person identifying as a woman do to me when they’re in the womens bathroom?

            None.

          • Amos Moses

            The harm comes with the predator using it as cover for their own deviant purposes…………

          • Jalapeno

            Which can happen if you force people to go in the bathroom based on their DNA.

            So.. Try again. What harm?

          • Amos Moses

            See………… bigotry………….. so we should just have a public fire hydrant………. and everyone will see everyone……..

            FYI, the establishments, Target or whatever, have a responsibility, a duty, to protect their customers…. so if not the DNA and what you are born as………. then what……… then there is NO STANDARD and NO PROTECTION………… and idiocy and anarchy reign…….

          • Jalapeno

            So.. We should do DNA checks?

          • Amos Moses

            It was checked at the birth of the person………. and the only ones who are demanding access to a place they do not belong………. have certain mental disorder…………..

          • TheBottomline4This

            Exactly!!!

          • Jalapeno

            So..you want to check birth certificates then?

            I think they’re going exactly where they belong though, so don’t assume that your ideals on the concept are universal.

          • Amos Moses

            TEXAS TO TARGET: EXPLAIN HOW YOU PROTECT WOMEN, CHILDREN

            AG cites threat from ‘those who would use the cover of restroom policy for nefarious purposes’

          • Jalapeno

            Do you think people can’t use the “whatever you were at birth” as a cover for nefarious purposes?

          • Amos Moses

            They can…….. but it is illegal……….. and when you say …….. pee where you feel comfortable……….. you open women and children to harm…….. and that is not tolerable…………………. unless you are mentally ill…………..

          • Jalapeno

            If you say that people must use the bathroom that was on their birth certificate when they were born, perverts can lie about it.

            Why do you not care about the safety of those women?

          • Amos Moses

            The minority of persons is not in the purview of the law……….. or it is not supposed to be…… it is not its purpose to micromanage every incident that might come up…. if the minority of people have a problem……….. then it is a personal problem…….. not a societal one………… FYI, pee at home, use a “family facility”, or cross your legs and hold it…….. get a “stadium buddy”…….. they like strapons anyway……………
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          • Jalapeno

            So..trans people shouldn’t use the bathroom?

          • Amos Moses

            So……. did i just say that……… or did you just twist that……….. trans should get help for their disorder and learn to deal with it if they refuse to do so………………..

          • Jalapeno

            People who have transitioned DID get help.

            So..who is it whos supposed to hold it? Trans people or the people who think we should do DNA checks at the bathroom door?

          • Amos Moses

            “People who have transitioned DID get help.”

            They were lied to and got the wrong help………… not my problem……… not a societal problem……………..

          • Jalapeno

            So..how long ago did you get your medical degree? Things have probably changed a bit in the meantime.

          • Amos Moses

            Men have not changed………. one iota……… for millennia…….. so not a problem to figure it out…………… and you do not have one either……….. so what is your authority to say it is or is not…………… NONE……………. (see what i did there)………………

          • Jalapeno

            Well…right now, the best treatment for people with gender dysphoria that want to transition is to help them transition.

            Was it that way when you went to med school?

          • Amos Moses

            “Well…right now, the best treatment for people with gender dysphoria that want to transition is to help them transition.”

            No, it is not,,,,,,,,, you cannot fix a mental problem with surgery…….. you cannot make a man a woman with surgery………. drilling a hole in your taint, or filling it in, does not make a person an opposite sex……………

            “Was it that way when you went to med school?”

            Back at ‘cha sport………………………..

          • Jalapeno

            Oh?

            Whats your suggestion then? SSRIs? Anti-psychotics?

          • Amos Moses

            “Was it that way when you went to med school?”

            Sorry………. did not get your answer to that………………

          • Jalapeno

            I’m repeating to you what a current treatment for this is, and I’m basing it on research of treatment suggestions and the input of a physician in my family.

            So..what about you? Did you think we should just toss them some anti-depressants, or maybe some anti-psychotics?

            Did they teach you in medical school that sex and gender are binary and simple and we should just ignore anyone who says that it isn’t for them?

          • Amos Moses

            “Was it that way when you went to med school?”

            Sorry………. did not get your answer to that………….

          • Jalapeno

            Try reading.

            I’m telling you where my information came from .

            So whats your suggestion? Anti-depression meds? Anti-psychotics?

            Telling them to suck it up and ignore it?

          • Amos Moses

            So you have no Bona Fides and your opinion is just that……………. and you think you can come here with some authority over those who believe………… and that is what we should listen too…………… Really……

          • Jalapeno

            I’m asking you.

            Whats your suggested treatment?

          • Amos Moses

            There is only one treatment……………. Christ…………….

          • Jalapeno

            Medical treatment.

            Are you going with the “they’re wrong and should just not get any medical treatment at all” solution?

          • Amos Moses

            The only thing that can heal them………… is Christ………. there is no “medical” solution…………

          • Jalapeno

            Okay.

            Got it.

            Ignore it and hope that they go away. Good call.

          • Amos Moses

            Did not say ignore it……….. you said that…….. if they choose to ignore Christ…… and His solution……… then there are consequences for that choice…………….

          • Amos Moses

            For example, it is very hard for me to understand how a transgendered person can claim they should become the other sex because they feel like the other sex; for how can they know what it is like to feel like the other sex if they have never been the other sex?

            Similarly, if I understand correctly, it is impossible for males to understand the experiences of women, which is why we men must ever check our privilege; but if it is therefore impossible for men to know what it is like to be a woman, how can one who claims to be transgender know what it is like to be a woman and therefore know he feels like a woman?

            It is also said that to be transgendered means to have a male brain in a female body, or a female brain in a male body; yet are not we told the minds of men and women are equal and identical, and that to argue biological differences between the minds of men and women is a particularly devious trick of the patriarchy to marginalize women’s thoughts?

            But if women and men have the same minds, how is it then that women can have a peculiar perspective or insight which they contribute? It still seems to me that if women have special thoughts and special insights, it must come from a special mind, yet a special mind by definition could not be the same mind as a male mind; otherwise neither would be special, but normal.

          • Jalapeno

            “yet are not we told the minds of men and women are equal and identical”

            .. No, we are not.

          • Amos Moses

            Yeah,,,,,,,,, we are…………….. we are told that we are all equal and have equal abilities and rights….. and you are one of them ……………. how dare you say that certain people are not equal……. gee, that would have to include trannys and homosexuals…… and we can’t have that…… can we ……………. /sarc

          • Jalapeno

            Equal and identical are not the same thing.

          • Amos Moses

            Sure……………… so when it comes to the bathroom……….. what…………. what kind of a bigot are you………………….

          • Jalapeno

            You think that being equal means you’re identical?

          • Amos Moses

            Does not answer the question………. if they are not equal………… then what…….. and what do they deserve if they are not equal………. if they are not identical…… then what….. and how do they deserve to be treated……….. which bathroom should they use if the are…… or are not……………. based on what……………. in your view…………….

          • Jalapeno

            …yeah okay good luck with that .English is hard.

          • Amos Moses

            No, the question is hard for you to answer…….. so you dont…. or cant………… Good luck with that…………

          • TheBottomline4This

            Sorry to interrupt the love fest between you and Amos, but let me ask a question, what about denying one’s birth sex is right Jalapeno?

          • Jalapeno

            I don’t recall anyone denying that they were born a certain sex at birth.

            Saying that they have a mismatch between their gender and sex? Why would that be “wrong”?

          • TheBottomline4This

            You didn’t answer the question…what about denying one’s birth sex is right?
            (Yes I will give my answer to your question after you answer)

          • Jalapeno

            … I’m saying that your question is faulty.

            Who’s denying their sex?

          • TheBottomline4This

            The trans are.

          • Jalapeno

            I’ve never seen a trans person sat that.

            The idea involved is the distinction between gender and sex.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Let’s take a man…his gender is male, his sex is male.
            When a woman is going to have a baby, she can be asked “What is the gender? or What is the sex of the baby? She will answer boy/male or girl/female.

          • Jalapeno

            Yeah, so?

          • TheBottomline4This

            You said, “The idea involved is the distinction between gender and sex.”. My point is there is no distinction between a person’s gender or sex. You are either male or female and that doesn’t change.

          • Jalapeno

            You should understand the claim they’re making.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I think I do, but do share your understanding of their claim.

          • Jalapeno

            You’re arguing against a strawman.

            They are not claiming to not be physically a woman. They are saying that they are physically a woman but mentally a male.

          • TheBottomline4This

            So again…what about denying one’s birth sex is right?

          • Jalapeno

            It’s not right.

            I don’t see it happen though.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Did you misunderstand the question… what about a trans denying and not living their born sex is right? What is right about that choice?

          • Amos Moses

            Sorry…… What are YOUR Bona Fides………………

          • TheBottomline4This

            Don’t assume that your ideals on the concept are universal. Just because it’s the latest “fad”, doesn’t mean it’s right.

          • Jalapeno

            I’m not.

          • Amos Moses

            The law disagrees……………

          • Jalapeno

            So..birth certificates?

          • Amos Moses

            Got one…………. not sure Obama has one……… a real one anyways……

            Yeah…….. that is your legal remedy……… you are all for the law……… so why not………………….

          • Jalapeno

            So..a woman is in the bathroom and people freak out and assume shes a transgender because she has facial hair.

            She should keep her birth certificate on her to show the people in the bathroom…or just show it to the court after she gets arrested?

          • Amos Moses

            So…… you want to invent little silly arguments……….. as if that is a reason……. to abandon reason……… mental illness…………

          • Jalapeno

            Did you hear about the girl who got kicked out of the bathroom for being gay?

            Have you ever seen a woman with facial hair? Did you think that all these people who are so obsessed with keeping them out of the bathroom won’t say anything?

          • Amos Moses

            So what……………………. it is the trannys and homosexuals who have created this atmosphere…………. live with it………….

          • Jalapeno

            Okay..so you don’t care about people being harassed for no reason. Got it.

          • Amos Moses

            They have created the atmosphere that we currently have……… they have asked for this…… but we should just lay down and take it……… Got it…………..

          • Jalapeno

            Yeah..how DARE they exist..and how DARE they not get rid of the existence of men who are apparently not capable of controlling themselves.

          • Amos Moses

            They have made choices……….. so what………. they have chosen to be what they are…… with choices come consequences and responsibilities………. JUST AS EVERYONE ELSE DOES…… they are no better for their choices…… but they seem to think they are……..

          • Jalapeno

            Yeah. Screw them. They should just…listen to people like you and ignore who they are.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Who do you know personally who is trans? Do you happen to be trans?

          • Jalapeno

            I have a family member who transitioned, but I’m cis.

            Why? Are people who don’t know a trans person irrelevant or something?

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, just curious where all of your anger stems from.

          • Jalapeno

            Nope. No anger involved.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Anger may not have been the best word choice..let’s say passion about the subject.

          • Jalapeno

            It’s amazing what happens when you watch people rant about how trans people shouldn’t be able to use the bathroom at all.

          • TheBottomline4This

            It’s also amazing what happens when you tell people that trans is an emotional/mental issue.

          • Amos Moses

            They should understand that “feelings”……….. LIE TO YOU…………………..

          • Amos Moses

            If you are caught where you do not belong………. then that is your legal remedy………..

          • gizmo23

            Can you imagine the disruption if Carmen used the male bathroom looking like she does

          • TheBottomline4This

            Given he’s a he, not really. The men would be surprised and stop doing anything they might try once they saw he is a guy.

          • gizmo23

            How would they know he was a guy? People don’t generally flash their genitals in the bathroom

          • TheBottomline4This

            lol. I will have no problem if I strongly suspect a trans in the bathroom to ask them. If they’re not ashamed of it, then they can simply say yes.

          • gizmo23

            You wouldn’t even know, I’m sure you have shared a bathroom with one

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t recall if you were the one I said this to, but with most you can tell.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Don’t be so sure about that. Sure, you’ll say that when you already know it’s trans person, but if you ran into one in public or something, without knowing? I doubt it.

          • Amos Moses

            Sounds like that is a personal problem, not a societal one, and does not require a societal solution…………………

          • TheBottomline4This

            Great point!!!

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            She was a guy? And they want women like her to use the male restroom cause she used to be a man?

  • NCOriolesFan

    Bla, bla, bla, says the presidential propagandist. No wonder the USA is looked done upon from the world. Obama’s too busy getting inside America’s bedrooms and pants and less concerned about world terrorism. Shows where’s his presidential priorities are.

    • TheBottomline4This

      His loyalties sway toward his own. Thankfully BHO will be gone soon 🙂

      • NCOriolesFan

        Trump will trump Hilary into political oblivion, I hope.

      • The Last Trump

        Sadly, I’m not so sure….
        Should be an interesting summer. One for the ages.

    • acontraryview

      “No wonder the USA is looked done upon from the world.”

      Basis?

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Because we have a week president in office who bows to other world leaders and apologizes for the USA. No one respects someone in leadership who panders to every whim and bows to others as if our country is under subjection. Not only was he an unknown that was placed in office but he is now known as one of the most week perverse leaders in history. America can be great again if those who are silent use their voices , not only to speak in politics but to pray that the Lord heal our land.

        • NCOriolesFan

          Weak, you meant.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Thank you . Yes weak , correction made.

        • acontraryview

          Those are your opinions of the President. My question was the basis for your saying that it is “no wonder the USA is looked done [sic] upon from the world”.

          To provide a basis for that statement, you would need to be able to provide quotes from world leaders in which they state that they look down upon the US.

          “Not only was he an unknown”

          Just because you are not interested in who is running the country, doesn’t mean everyone is. At time he ran, he was a Senator – hardly unknown.

          “he is now known as one of the most week perverse leaders in history.”

          Who is that known by and under what basis?

          “America can be great again if those who are silent use their voices , not only to speak in politics but to pray that the Lord heal our land.”

          What’s stopping people from praying to their Lord to heal our land? What “healing” would you pray for?

      • chetnapier

        Yeah! Stick a fork in us we are done.

  • Judy Zwyghuizen

    Then make a seperate bathroom for Trans Gender’s! problem solved!

    • gogo0

      but then penises and vaginas would be in the same bathroom together. the same “problem” exists, all it would do is expose that the bathroom hysteria is based on feelings that trans are yucky rather than any kind of logic or evidence that an actual problem exists

      • TheBottomline4This

        Not if there it is a single bathroom that says Transgender only.

        • Jalapeno

          Seems pretty anti-business to require a whole separate set of bathrooms be built.

          It’d be great if we could just demand that everyone has a safe-space away from bigots, but it’s not really reasonable.

          • Amos Moses

            So, close all the bathrooms……….. because that is pretty much everybody….. including you………..

          • TheBottomline4This

            The sad thing is that don’t see that they are bigots. Their ignorance is astounding.

        • gogo0

          trans women with penises and trans men with vaginas would be in the transgender only bathroom. its a waste of time though, you would still have to worry about lesbians raping women in your bathroom, and of course the sexual predators who have been entering the wrong bathroom to do illegal things for years.

          there is plenty of stuff to be afraid of, why you guys choose only one thing at a time is something I don’t understand. best idea would be to have a sign on the door saying “CHRISTIAN [MALE/FEMALE] BATHROOM ONLY, MINISTERS, GOP POLITICIANS, AND OTHER SEX OFFENDERS NOT ALLOWED”

      • acontraryview

        Oh my gosh…..not penises and vaginas in the same room. Oh the horrors!!!!!!!

        • gogo0

          ”Oh the [manufactured and imaginary] horrors!”

          • acontraryview

            The sky is falling…..the sky is falling.

            What’s next….cats and dogs living together?????

          • gogo0

            the inevitable next stop on the slippery slope. if you allow one thing, you allow everything!

          • TheBottomline4This

            Gogo, that’s the point exactly. You get it 🙂

          • gogo0

            i’ve understood fallacious reasoning for quite a while already

    • TheBottomline4This

      That’s a good idea. Make a bathroom that says Transgender only.

    • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

      The thing is, the LGBTQs want others to bend to their will

    • Gal5:22-23

      Or make them for those that don’t feel safe with other people in the restroom. The reality is that even if trans were out, there are still gay and lesbians, there are just psycho cis-gender people. People who don’t feel safe often just don’t feel safe under any conditions – let there be a few private rest rooms for the paranoid.

  • Sheri

    We arrangement the architecture because of sickos?

    Then we’re a sicko society.

  • acontraryview

    Bye, Bye, HB2. Nice knowin’ ya.

    • gizmo23

      It gives NC an easy out of the mess they created.

      • acontraryview

        It will allow the governor to save face while doing what he knew he would have to do at some point anyway.

    • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

      The DoJ or Obama has no real case. If the case goes to court, the DoJ will lose. They r just persecuting or harassing a conservative Red State into wasting taxpayers money in the courts, similar to patent-trolling.

      • acontraryview

        “The DoJ or Obama has no real case. If the case goes to court, the DoJ will lose.”

        Basis?

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          QUOTING from the news article: …….
          ” The cited section of federal law prohibits employers from discriminating
          against a person because of their gender. The law has generally been
          considered as applying to discrimination against women in treating
          females as inferior to males. ”

          Didn’t u read the article.?

          • acontraryview

            Why yes, I did read the article.

            From the article: “the courts have interpreted the law as applying to gender identity issues as well”

            “Didn’t u read the article.?”

            Were you not aware of the recent ruling in Federal District court on a similar matter in VA?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            This issue is going thru the lengthy court process of rulings n appeals, likely right up to the Supreme Court.

            R u aware of this very recent court case.? …….
            ht tp:/ /christiannews. n et / 2016/05/05/51-families-sue-obama-administration-for-forcing-school-district-to-allow-boy-in-girls-locker-room/

          • acontraryview

            Yes, I am aware of that case. It is nothing more than a publicity stunt, as the issue has been settled in court.

  • Chip01

    North Carolina ranks 47th in education… so, let’s not pretend that NC cares about the chidlren, when they don’t care enough to give the children a decent education.

    • TheBottomline4This

      What is your main concern about the children, whether in NC or some other state?

      • Chip01

        The use of “children” to invoke bigotry, when all the while folks let the children drink soda and watch TV all day

  • sammy13

    The US DoJ would do well to go after IRS employees past/present who targeted Republican non-profits for political reasons; to go after HRClinton, Benghazi, email, ; to go after the Fast and Furious Gun crowd; go after Obama for not securing the southern border at Mexico. This in lieu of tinkering with G-d’s design/creation or male and female.

  • sammy13

    I also suggest women carry pepper spray in the restrooms, just in case. Maybe some enterprising individual can develop a hot new aerosol called peckerspray. Where there is a need…………..

    • Chip01

      Does it repell priests and conservative republicans? Cause those are the ones who attack kids

      • TheBottomline4This

        I think there is a separate one for those weird priests.
        You can’t think of one democrat who has attacked kids???

        • gizmo23

          Evil comes in all forms and stripes

          • TheBottomline4This

            The second thing we agree on Gizzy 🙂

        • Chip01

          I don’t see democrats on a bogus witch hunt to victimize a group of people, who have done no wrong.

          • TheBottomline4This

            lol…riiight 😉

      • NCOriolesFan

        Seems the jackass party is more attracted to the ladies room (or the mens room), than priests and conservatives. After all, it’s the donkey party that creates these laws like the Charlotte mayor did to her disregard of 99.9% of the rest of the population. The NC Conservative governor put a stop to donkey party bathroom shenanigans keeping the sexes separated in the name of safety, privacy, common sense and logic.

        • TheBottomline4This

          Sounds like the Charlotte Mayor is a loon and cows to the minority.

          • NCOriolesFan

            The Liberal mentality – the minority matters more than the majority yet the majority always wins.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            In terms of US population: ……. LGBTQs = 3%, Blacks = 14%, Hispanics = 15%, unionized workers = 11%, feminists = about 20%, the lazy n irresponsible poor = about 5%, environmentalists = about 10%, etc.
            ……. Add up all those minority-votes n the liberals become the majority. Hence, since the 1960s, the liberal Blue States hv dominated US Federal politics. Hence, Trump(= a Rino) or Hillary will be the next President n both hail from New York, a very liberal Blue State.

    • Amos Moses

      Taser…………

  • ComeOnPeople!

    Title Vll was not written about transgender and they know it. A law is passed in regard to known situations not unknown. Transgender has not even been on the books or a known problem in society until the passed few decades. Before this it was considered a mental health issue.
    As to NC … my word 27 other states have the same laws in effect. GET REAL PEOPLE!

    • TheBottomline4This

      “Before this it was considered a mental health issue.” There’s a reason for that. It is an emotional/mental issue.

      • Gal5:22-23

        If you search the internet you will find a number of articles that show there are structural differences between cis-gender and trans-gender brains.

        For a historical aside, look up the works of Thomas Szasz, who in 1976 published ’The Myth of Mental Illness’, just as earnestly saying that things like schizophrenia were just ‘emotional’ issues. We can chuckle about it now until we think how many people his misguided notion hurt people who had an actual disease but were told it was all in their heads.

        Or stomach ulcers – remember when people were sent to therapy to treat life-threatening ulcers? Now we know they were caused by a type of stomach bacteria that can be treated with $12 worth of medication.

        There are people who are transgender, and yes someday we will have an objective test we can do to identify them. Until then Christian charity and compassion demands we find a way to gather them and accept them as our brothers and sisters as we are mandated by God.

        • TheBottomline4This

          What denomination are you?

          • Gal5:22-23

            Christian Protestant, why?

          • TheBottomline4This

            What type of Church do you attend…Baptist, Methodist, Charismatic, Lutheran, etc ?

          • Gal5:22-23

            Off topic and pretty close to a ToS violation. Why not just say what you want to say?

          • TheBottomline4This

            Hmm, most others don’t mind answering. I’m not asking which specific Church you attend, just what type is it…

          • Gal5:22-23

            And most people don’t ask. Say what you want to say on your own.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Seeing that your account is new. I’ll pass. Evidently the Church you attend isn’t a true Christian Church given the few off comments you have made and how they do not line up with the whole counsel of the Bible. Good day.

          • Gal5:22-23

            “The True Scotsman” fallacy and a violation of the ToS. I figured that was where you were going.

            Good day to you too.

          • Cady555

            I’m shocked, shocked that you pulled out the stale old “No True Scotsman” on Gal5 after quizzing him so bluntly. Who could have imagined that was the whole point?

            /snark

          • TheBottomline4This

            Oh it wasn’t’ the whole point, but it ended there.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          The users here won’t read them. They’re terrified of having to confront their own beliefs.

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          ROM.1:18-32

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          Fyi, schizophrenia is occasional or episodic demon possession, usually
          the result of engaging the services of witches/mediums/sorcerers to cast
          spells/charms/hexes on others, eg love potion/spell, ie schizophrenia is a curse from God for breaking God’s Law at DEUT.18:9-14.
          …….Case examples, 1SAM.16:14, MATT.8:28 & 9:32.

          Demonic activity is rife in tropical countries bc demons like to live in dark n
          dense tropical jungles, eg village shamans, witch-doctors n
          voodoo-priests. These r the ‘prophets’ of Satan/demons that the Holy
          Bible warned about. Also, fortune-tellers, psychics, magicians,
          tarot-card readers, ouija-boards, horoscope, etc.
          …….Satan is a fallen arch-angel n demons r fallen angels. They hv evil spiritual powers that r tempting to ignorant people but r very harmful.

    • Jalapeno

      What do you think trans people have been doing about bathrooms?

      • ComeOnPeople!

        I think they have used them without much ado. My problem is creating LAWS that say it’s okay. When you pass a law stating men who think they are women are allowed , then ALL men must be allowed. Society never has agreed with men in ladies rest rooms and there has never been LAWS stating it was ok. If men who think they are women have used them it was not via a law or the approval of society as a whole.

        • Jalapeno

          So.. People are okay with it as long as they are breaking the law and being shamed for it. Makes sense.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            People are not ok with it but at only 1% of the population or less having gender confusion it has never been an issue. At the percentage most ladies will never experience a male who thinks he’s a female entering there restroom. Therefore the problem is not a problem unless you make it a LAW that men who think they are women can be there VIA LAW. Then it becomes an issue because ALL men must now be allowed.

          • Jalapeno

            Yes. It’s much better to force people who identify as male to use the women’s bathroom.

          • Gal5:22-23

            yes you’ve seen the pictures of the trans-guys with the lumberjack arms and beards standing in the ladies room saying ‘yeah this will make women feel so much more comfortable.’

        • TheBottomline4This

          When a woman needs to go to the bathroom, they should have their hubby, boyfriend, brother, friend come to the bathroom with them and stand inside near the door to the side while she does her business. If anyone asks what he is doing there he can simply say I identify as a woman. If they say you don’t look like a woman, he can say I’m just starting my transition, so don’t judge me and continue waiting for the lady he went in with or something like that 🙂

          • Gal5:22-23

            The notion that a person should bear false witness, basically giving up heaven, to make a point is an unusual argument for a Christian blog.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Do you support a person who thinks they are the opposite sex going into the bathroom that matches that thinking?

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            EXO.20:16 = 16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”

            Was he bearing false witness about his gender, against his neighbor or to cause harm to his neighbor(= the opposite of ‘love yr neighbor as yrself’).?
            …….We need to be rightly dividing the laws/Word of God.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Well there you have it LOL and under a LAW created for men to be allowed, hey they all have the right to come pee with us ladies.

          • Bob Johnson

            So are you advocating for Sharia law – women can not leave the house without male escort?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          “When you pass a law stating men who think they are women are allowed , then ALL men must be allowed.”

          Luckily, transwomen are not men, so the problem of how hard it is to write laws that specify things (which exists only in your head) won’t affect this situation.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Born male, always male. Born female, always female.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Stomping your foot and insisting something is true doesn’t make it so.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Right back at ya buddy.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Oh, I’m sorry, you want evidence that you’re wrong? Okay, refute this:

            ht tps: // www. apa .org / prac tice/ guide lines /tran sgender. pdf

            (Remove the spaces)

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Luckily I have no such fantasies running around in my head and can see reality. A person with a penis is indeed a man by every definition known in every medical text book or written dictionary. Now the term man or male may be redefined but as for now the term man or male is defined by a person who has a penis. Therefore what is in my head is reality and those who think a person possessing a penis can be called a woman are the ones who are either mentally deranged or in denial. Sorry but yes I come from a time long before video games and can decipher and reason still between what is fantasy and what is reality.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I have shown you plenty of scientific evidence that transgender people are to be considered the gender they identify as, you’ve just chosen to ignore it.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            That is not evidence but mere speculation based on the study of those with this mental illness . Up until just recently anyone claiming to be something they were not was considered to have a mental illness because they were unable to accept reality.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            “That is not evidence but mere speculation based on the study of those with this mental illness.”

            That’s pretty much the definition of evidence. What would you need to see that’s better than conclusions based on study?

      • Reason0verhate

        Who cares?

  • Cady555

    Laws like Charlotte’s have existed around the country for years. The number of harassment complaints? Zero. Zilch. Nada. None.

    In the last week police have been called to numerous stores to deal with men harrassing women in bathrooms. And who are the harassers? “Loving” christian men urged on by the AFA harassing innocent people to make a point.

    It looks like HB2 targeted the wrong group.

    If -you- can’t mind your own business while using va public restroom, -you- need to find a single person family restroom.

  • TheBottomline4This

    To those who are open minded, watch this video. It is 45 min. long and addresses some of the stuff the willingly ignorant in the comment section have brought up about transgenders, science, there not being a God, etc. Don’t be scared…it is a sermon at a Church.
    youtube dot com/watch?v=zk3WUd3o9pk

    • LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

      Thank you for that post on a Church sermon.I enjoyed it more then I can say. He is good and he is right . Again than you.

      • TheBottomline4This

        You’re welcome. I’m sharing it 🙂 Truth will prevail. I’m glad I came across it.

        • LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

          Keep sharing you never know who may be reached 🙂

      • TheBottomline4This

        Here’s another one you may enjoy Ladyfreebird
        youtube dot com/watch?v=bPRKJl7y5IU

        • LadyFreeBird♥BlessedBeTheLord

          Thank you.

  • Rude Richard

    Your gender identity has nothing to do with how you feel if you have a dick your a man. All this bullshit about gender identity is being thrown out there by the media is just to divert your attention from what the traitors in DC are doing…

  • Tony

    You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
    the same as that.
    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
    nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.The Transgender Brain development
    How does the M to F Transgender?
    Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
    female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
    testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
    insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
    However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
    Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
    remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
    masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
    The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
    was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
    this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
    age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
    You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual).Though they too have some of the same traits.
    Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.I know this in my own life.***
    Ultimately everyone needs and deserves love and be who they are in their Gender or who they love. ***
    ***Trans-gender people are not the
    perverts and pedophiles like 80% of the unintelligent population thinks. There
    are more than 90% of so-called Heterosexual people baby rapist and adult rapist in the world than
    Trans-gender people. Trans-gender people are not all about sexual relationships
    with whom ever like the LGB. Acceptance of Gender NOT whom you have sex with are
    two and completely different things.
    They just want to use the restroom wash their hands
    and walk out.The True trans-gender want only 1 thing and that is to pee , then leave A.S.A.P.
    . The only thing Trans-ladies might to in the ladies room is to urinate and hand up, check
    makeup. and MAYBE look at the ladies shoes , clothing, make up and listen to the way the
    talk. THAT’S IT !! and NOT for rape of ANYONE Child or adult females. GOD created the Trans-gender in the mother’s womb. I am Trans-gender And I am a Christian judge not lest Ye be Judged !! God doesn’t care about Gender He cares who follows Him.

    • John_33

      Hi Tony,

      I agree with you that transgenderism is entirely different from homosexuality, but the issue is not as clear cut as you indicate. First, there are no tests to indicate that one actually has a “female” or “male” brain. I am aware of the studies on brains of individuals who identify as transgender, but to the best of my knowledge, these tests are not used to diagnosis any individuals.

      In fact, transgenderism is never diagnosed with medical tests based on genes or concrete science. This is handled by psychologists.

      Now, Galatians 3:28 is a verse that has been taken out of context by the LGBT community. The same writer who wrote Galatians 3:28 and said that there was no difference between male and female also said that it was good for a man to not touch a woman (1 Corinthians 7:1) and counselled believers how they were to treat women (I Timothy 5:2). Obviously Paul was not saying that male and female do not exist. He was simply saying that there is no difference spiritually between these groups once they are in Christ.

      I agree with you that most individuals who identify as transgender are not rapists or pedophiles. The majority of predators are heterosexuals, but the problem is that they can these new policies that allow access based on gender identity since they can lie that they are transgender and there is no way to tell if they are lying.

      Let me give an example: Christopher Hambrook lied that he was transgender so he could gain entrance into a women’s shelter so he could attack women. He managed to molest two before he was caught. There is no way to tell Christopher Hambrook apart from a sincere individual who identifies as transgender who simply wants to use the washroom.

      In fact, there’s a pro-transgender website that attempts to address the question how one can know if they are transgender or not. In the end, it says that there are no definitive tests and it encourages people to “explore” to help them decide if they are transgender or not.

      Transgenderism at its core is not a medical condition but rather a self-identity. People determine whether they are transgender based on their own feelings and beliefs and not based on a medical diagnosis.

      Because it’s based on self-identification, anyone can lie that they are transgender when they are not. This is why many are opposing these bathroom bills. Now, I also understand that many individuals who identify as transgender feel uncomfortable in certain washrooms. I am open to alternatives, such as private, unisex washrooms. That way, transgender individuals are able to use the washrooms in peace while women and children do not have to be worried about predators abusing these policies. But what I cannot accept is a policy that allows perverts to abuse the law and enter the washrooms unimpeded. Sadly, there have been numerous incidents because of these new laws.

      God didn’t do anything wrong when He made you. You’re made in His image. Part of Jesus’ mission when He came to earth was to bind up the broken hearted and to bear our diseases. He still does this today. Nothing is impossible With Jesus. He is more than able to help you on your journey.

  • 201821208 :)

    “male and female created He them” Gen. 1:27
    “And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female” Matthew 19:4