Eight-Year-Old Girl Choked in Restroom by Man in City Pushing ‘Transgender’ Access Rights

Hartstirn-compressedCHICAGO — An eight-year-old girl was recently choked unconscious by an adult male who approached her in the women’s restroom of of a Chicago restaurant as city officials continue their push for restroom accommodations according to gender identity.

According to reports, the incident occurred last Saturday at Jason’s Deli in the South Loop of the city. The girl and her mother both used the restroom, which has separated stalls.

Reese Hartstirn, 33, is accused of following the women into the restroom and then choking the little girl until she passed out. As the child’s mother heard her daughter scream, she quickly moved to rescue the girl as Hartstirn was carrying her into a stall, but he pushed the woman out of the way.

Others in the restaurant held the man until police arrived. Hartstirn is charged with aggravated kidnapping of a child, aggravated battery of a child and battery causing bodily harm. He is also facing a charge of aggravated assault of a peace officer after he swung at an officer in being booked.

Hartstirn is being held in the Cook County jail without bail and will appear in court on Monday.

The girl was transported to Comer Children’s Hospital for treatment. Her present condition is unknown.

“This is at a restaurant,” customer Crystal Anderson told WLS-TV. “You want your kid to be able to go to a bathroom in a restaurant and feel safe and not be scared … and not worry about someone trying to abduct your kid.”

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Some have expressed concern about the incident in light of the national push to permit males who identify as females in women’s restrooms as they state that such allowances increase the chances for men who aren’t “transgender” to enter without question.

Earlier this month, even before the Obama administration issued directives stating that schools must accommodate students’ “internal sense of gender,” the Chicago school district announced that it would allow male students who identify as female and vice versa to use the restroom and locker room that correlates with their “gender identity.”

“Students shall have access to the restrooms and locker rooms that correspond with their gender identity consistently asserted at school,” it wrote. “Supports and accommodations should also be provided to gender non-binary students and students questioning their gender identity, regardless of whether the student is consistently asserting at school.”

Gender non-binary refers to students who do not believe they fit into the category of either male or female, and blend both the masculine and feminine in their appearance. In such cases, students are allowed to use the restroom and locker room of their preference.

The Chicago Commission on Human Relations also outlines that it may be a violation of the city’s human rights ordinance “[f]or a business to deny a customer access to a restroom or similar private facility designated for the gender shown on the person’s official identification—such as a driver’s license, state identification card or passport.”

Violators may be fined up to $500 and may be subject to damages and attorney’s fees.


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  • Peter Leh

    “Some have expressed concern about the incident in light of the national
    push to permit males who identify as females in women’s restrooms as
    they state that such allowances increase the chances for men who aren’t
    “transgender” to enter without question.”

    theses perps have always been around

    transgendered law or not perps always break the law.

    you can have a law that men cannot go into the women’s and this guy will still do it.

    It is criminals we all have to worry about not the transgendered

    • Slidellman4life

      Translation: Who cares? “Trans”-people being able to use the restroom of their choice is all that matters.

      What a misogynist dirtbag you are.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        It’s a none issue. GO PEE and stop pushing for laws that will make it acceptable for males who IDENTIFY as anything to enter a ladies restroom. GO PEE already and forget making it law that you can do so. Laws that do more harm then good are just plain stupid!

    • Guest

      But now they have easier access and anyone questioning why a grown man would want to follow a little girl into the bathroom will be labeled a bigot. This law is really about enabling pedophiles and has very little to do with transgender rights.

      • gizmo23

        It has to do with stiring people up using fear, nothing more

        • The Last Trump

          Tell it to the innocent choked unconscious victim of your agenda driven insanity.

          • acontraryview

            Tell her what? That we are sorry for what she went through and that she was the victim of a heinous crime. Other than that, there is nothing to tell her. There are no laws in Chicago which allow transgenders to use the bathroom of their identified gender.

          • Will

            There will be…….wait for it…..

          • acontraryview

            Most likely so. And things will be fine – just as they have been in the numerous places where such laws have been in place for some time.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          Nope not fear but common sense .

          • gizmo23

            Complete fear mongering designed to garner cheap votes from paranoid people and to stir up emotions. A solution in search of a problem. Far more children are molested at youth camps, churches and schools than public bathrooms. Family get togethers are even worse

          • Will

            Why are people this stupid? 1. These crimes happen other places too. 2. So let’s not worry that we will increase these crimes in bathrooms and locker rooms etc. That makes it ok to put women and children at risk. Your logic is horrible. .

          • gizmo23

            The problem with your fear is that there is no evidence that this will make anyone unsafe. If we are so concerned let’s pass a law that says no adult, including teachers and ministers, cannot be around children since those groups have shown that some of them molest children

        • muzjlk

          Gays do that 24/7.

      • acontraryview

        i’m pretty sure that a grown man who is not dressed as a woman and follows a little girl into the restroom, would cause concern. This is not a carte blanch “let anybody who wants to” law. if someone has concerns about an adult male following a little girl into the bathroom (although I think it’s pretty poor parenting to allow a little girl to go into the bathroom alone or without standing watch) they can certainly check on the situation.

        • The Last Trump

          Hardly.
          Any man can now go into the ladies room unhindered. ANY man.
          There is no meter to read who “feels” like a woman and who doesn’t.
          And no way to check under your upside down laws of bewildering insanity. Remember?
          It’s open season on everybody in Crazy Town USA.
          This little girl’s family should be able to sue YOU, Obama, and everybody else who thinks like you for putting her in such unnecessary jeopardy.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Now that depends. See if I’m out with my husband shopping or eating out at a restaurant and a male… whether he identifies as a woman or he identifies as a pervert… enters the ladies room… I’m pretty sure my husband would have the blue blood flowing in his veins drive him also into the ladies room , but I assure you it won’t be to go tinkle. When the officer asks him why he carried the pervert or the womanly clad man out of the restroom , He will just say hey a man is a man is a man and how was I to know if the guy in the dress really thinks he is a woman or not. Most men in America still respect the young ladies and girls around them and do not put up with junk. SO NO SORRY !!! ANY MAN CANNOT GO INTO A LADIES ROOM UNHINDERED because everywhere in AMERICA there are still REAL MEN keeping watch and protecting women and children.

          • acontraryview

            “Hardly.”

            So you don’t think it would cause concern if an adult male, who is not dressed as a woman, followed a little girl into a bathroom?

            So you don’t think that if someone has concerns about an adult male following a little girl into the bathroom they can certainly check on the situation.

            So you don’t think it’s pretty poor parenting to allow a little girl to go into the bathroom alone or without standing watch?

            “This little girl’s family should be able to sue YOU, Obama, and everybody else who thinks like you for putting her in such unnecessary jeopardy.”

            Sue on what basis?

          • Will

            Stupidity.

          • acontraryview

            Marvelous contribution, Will. Were you on the debate team in school?

          • Will

            No but I would have been great. Don’t cha think?

          • acontraryview

            Yes, it would have been great. For the other team.

          • Ronald Carter

            Last Trump, did you even READ this story? What (on earth) does it have to do with the transgendered, Obama, liberals, or anyone else who invariably turns up in one of your rants?

        • Guest

          Sorry, but it’s happening all the time. 20 recent cases in Target alone. Several in Canada. Men who are not dressed as anything but regular men but who declare they “feel” like women are committing crimes in women’s bathrooms. This law has nothing to do with transgender rights and everything to do with opening the door to abuse.

          • acontraryview

            Please cite these cases. Also please cite statistics which show that the number of these cases has increased since the passage of laws which allow transgenders to use the bathroom of their identified gender.

          • Guest

            Oh here you are again, the aging lonely woman who asks ad nauseum for sources then pretends she doesn’t see them or can’t understand them. I can’t link here. Go over to Charisma (have they banned you yet?) where I gave some links to Michael C.

          • acontraryview

            You can put links in here – just put spaces in the link.

          • gogo0

            if you guys had citations you would have posted them by now. only those with no evidence would go so far to not share any evidence. you’ve got nothing and sending dissenters who demand evidence on snipe hunts accomplishes nothing.

          • Guest

            I already posted them. Do you not bother to read posts prior to commenting? No, because then you’d have nobody to talk to.

          • gogo0

            saying “20 recent cases in Target alone” is not a citation. provide something with a http at the beginning and we can begin to validate your claims. if it turns out that you were right, then that would absolutely be worth considering. however you have not provided any source, or even anything truthful.

            in case the source you are so afraid to refer to is this one (http : // http://www.breitbart. com/big-government/2016/04/26/top-twenty-sexual-crimes-committed-target-stores/), 19 of the 25 stories were from before target’s new bathroom policy, 0 of the 25 stories involved transgenders, 4 of the 25 stories were of men assaulting little boys (why does your movement only want to protect women? why do you tacitly condone sex assault on little boys?), etc…
            anyway, i’m sure your source is much better. please share it, i wasn’t able to find anything credible on google.

          • Guest

            I did not give you the Breitbart source because it wasn’t my source. Do you not read the news? Did you ignore my other citations in other posts? And why are you answering under alts? Did you forget to sign in and out of other accounts? Tsk tsk.

          • gogo0

            alts? this is the same account i have always posted with. look at my history, it goes back to like 2006. no need to post under multiple accounts, why do you think i would?
            i didn’t know that brietbart was not your source because I’ve yet to see what source you claim to have posted. and apparently the news i read is very poor, i haven’t run across anything supporting your claims. your comment history is also empty, so I’m having a hard time finding the posts you’ve made that include your source.

          • Guest

            Then why are you answering for someone else and using the exact same spelling, grammar and syntax? 🙂 My posts citing other sources are in this thread. They are all available online, either through radio or print.

          • Diaris

            The gay trolls have hundreds of sock puppets. They all sound exactly alike. Poor things.

          • gogo0

            I can reply to any post, so I do. if you want to believe that I am using multiple accounts on this forum, you’re welcome to. doesn’t make any sense to do so, nor would it make any difference.

            “A Los Angeles man dressed in drag, entered a Macy’s department store bathroom and videotaped women under bathroom stalls.” this happened in 2013 before you claim laws “encouraged” people to use any bathroom.

            “A Seattle man, citing transgender bathrooms laws, was able to gain access to a women’s locker-room at a public recreational center while little girls were changing for swim practice.” this guy isnt transgender, wasn’t crossdressing, and wasnt faking being gay or trans. his statements indicate that he is just a jerk. possible that he was a conservative activist, but there is not enough information in the story to make a solid determination regarding his decision.

            “A Toronto man claiming to be transgender was arrested and sentenced to jail for sexually assaulting several women in a women’s shelter after he gained access to the shelter and its shower facilitates as “Jessica.” a sex offender with multiple sex assault offenses over the course of a decade. truly the new bathroom controversy is what pushed him over the edge and made him dangerous. thankfully the new gender-inspecific bathroom laws finally got him locked up and off the street.

            “A Virginia man was caught and arrested for peeping
            on and filming two women and a 5-year-old child in a women’s restroom after receiving entry by dressing in drag” “receiving entry”… from the guard posted outside? the bathroom bouncer? neither are mentioned in the story, but its likely he walked in unchecked like at any other public bathroom.

            “Two male students were caught at the University of Toronto
            exploiting “gender-neutral” facilities”. look, you got one!

            here is some more: http : // http://www.rawstory. com/2016/04/jesus-wept-there-were-12-reported-incidents-of-christian-pastors-molesting-kids-in-just-the-last-month/
            you guys going to finally start working on that problem, or are you too busy with horny college kids re-enacting Porkys?

            PS: you can post links here if you modify them slightly

          • Guest

            Pedos always try to infiltrate churches, and hospitals, and camps, and schools. So what do you want to do – ban washrooms, etc because pervs will be there? No, you keep them out. Absolutely, at all times, kick the pervs out wherever you find them. And if you find them in churches, how much more will you find them in bathrooms?

          • gogo0

            pretty simple answer, in comparing our two citations there are far more perverts found sexually abusing children in churches than public bathrooms.

          • Guest

            So? One in a public bathroom proves my case.

          • gogo0

            still doesn’t make it a case worth presenting. the absence of padlocks on bathroom doors encourages sex abuse, public bathrooms themselves encourage sex abuse, lesbians in women’s bathrooms can sexually assault right now, trans men that pass as women can sexually assault right now, a man taking his daughter into a women’s bathroom can sexually assault right now, mentally ill that don’t know what they are doing can sexually assault, perverts can sneak into restrooms and sexually assault, etc…
            your guys’ argument is stupid because you focus on one tiny population that has yet to do anything wrong and ignore all other avenues of abuse. it is an admittance that it doesn’t really have anything to do with ‘bathroom safety’, even if you have convinced yourself that it does. it is solely to do with believing trans people are yucky.

          • Guest

            You are missing the point entirely. These bathroom laws have nothing to do with the transgender community. They are being used as pawns to further the pedophile cause. That’s what this is about.

          • gogo0

            actually, going back and looking at acontrayview’s posts make me understand why you would think we were the same person. lack of capitalization and general sentence construction in a lot of cases. so, i’ll give you a pass on that accusation because it definitely looks like how you described.

            anyway, we’re not the same, but i do thank you for the accusation. acontraryview puts together some more measured and level-headed posts than me most of the time, and i appreciate being mistaken for him. if you feel like really making my day, you can mistake me for AmbulanceChaser next

          • Guest

            You’re terrible at this. Like really bad. Alts always think leaving caps and punctuation disguises their identity, but it’s the firs thing alts do. 🙂

          • Jess F.

            This is false.

          • Guest

            Why don’t you read the news? You will clearly see that it IS true, and that sex crimes against small children in bathroom are on the rise since the passing of this law.

          • Jess F.

            Why don’t you cite your sources? I’ll clearly see it’s true if you can prove your case. Until then you’re just talking out of your ass.

          • Guest

            I can’t link here. Go over to Charisma where I have linked it.

          • DanH

            Flagged.
            Dude, you need to watch your language, you are not behaving like a gentleman. If you can’t make your point without profanity, fella, you have no point worth making.

            Btw: you’re a guy, guys don’t dress up like girls, they look comical.

          • Jess F.

            Flagged for the word ass? Are you twelve? Also, not sure who you’re trying to prove the fact I’m a guy to here, I can clearly see your sad attempt to prove a point by repetition but that’s not exactly how it works.
            BTW: Keyword warriors and their opinions mean nothing when they don’t even have the nerve to show their own picture while attacking somebody else’s appearance.

          • DanH

            Flagged.
            Trash like you die of AIDS every day.
            Good riddance, you disgusting reeking pig.

          • Jess F.

            Dude, you need to watch your language, you are not behaving like a gentleman. If you can’t make your point without profanity, fella, you have no point worth making.

          • DanH

            I’m a man, and I look like one.
            A man posing as a woman is mentally ill and should be institutionalized. Healthy minded people accept themselves as they are. that’s just how it is. We’re not going to play along with your psychosis.

          • Jess F.

            That’s to be seen.
            Everybody is welcome to their own opinion.
            Healthy people don’t have imaginary friends in the sky. 😉
            The world is done playing with yours it seems.

          • JoeMvGod

            You shouldn’t pretend to be a girl, lying is evil.

          • Jess F.

            You shouldn’t pretend to deserve the air you breathe, hate is evil.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          So what if now because we pass laws that do not consider others… a man who IDENTIFIES as a PEDOPHILE puts on said women’s clothing and wig? THEN via this law it would be allowed ? COME ON!!! This law is concidering only one people group and excluding all others. It is being forced upon the will of the people to satisfy a select few. Why Transgenders are forcing the issue over going to the bathroom is beyond me. Please it’s a none issue. Pee in the woods, hold it or just stinking sneak in like you say you have been doing for years… but don’t ask for special treatment that causes others around you to be placed in potential dangers via a law. This law is just plum selfish & silly.

          • acontraryview

            “a man who IDENTIFIES as a PEDOPHILE puts on said women’s clothing and wig? THEN via this law it would be allowed ? ”

            Oh my gosh. You really have no idea how these types of laws work, do you? A person doesn’t “identify” as a pedophile. Either they are or they aren’t. But, yes, if a male pedophile dresses up as a female and then goes somewhere and hangs out until he sees a unaccompanied child go into a restroom, he would be able to also enter that restroom. A public restroom with people coming in and out on a regular basis and with the child inside of a stall which a lock on it.

            There have been ZERO cases of this happening in any location where such laws are in place. On the other hand, there have been lots of cases of transgender individuals being beaten by others. The VAST majority of cases of child sexual abuse occur by a family member or someone with a close relationship to the child. There are very few random situations. Based upon your logic regarding potential danger, it should be illegal for an adult male to be alone with a child at any time. Further, it should be illegal for an adult male to serve in a role where the child looks up to the adult as either an authority figure or a mentor-type figure. THAT is where most of the abuse occurs. Yet there is all this hubbabaloo about bathroom usage for transgender.

            “but don’t ask for special treatment that causes others around you to be placed in potential dangers via a law.”

            So now you want us to determine rights based upon “potential” danger. Let’s go with that. It’s it statistical fact that the majority of traffic fatalities and injuries involve male drivers under the age of 35. Now, clearly, the vast majority of male drivers under the age of 35 are not involved in traffic accidents that result in injury or death. Nonetheless, based upon data, there is clear potential danger regarding male drivers under the age of 35. Therefore, based upon your logic, and the potential danger, we should make it illegal for males under the age of 35 to drive. Yes?

            There are thousands of deaths in this nation every year by people who have guns. Now, granted, the vast majority of gun owners do not kill people. Nonetheless, there is potential danger by allowing people to have guns. Therefore, based upon your logic, gun ownership should are banned. Yes?

          • Will

            Very few random situations

            Are u really this stupid? Say no. You are opening door for more random situations. You will be held accountable for crimes committed in the end

          • acontraryview

            “You will be held accountable for crimes committed in the end”

            Oh, and a legal scholar as well! Impressive!

          • Will

            Thanks. More of a Bible scholar tho really.

          • acontraryview

            i’m sure you believe that to be true.

          • Will

            2 Corinthians 5:10
            For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

            Revelation 20:11-15
            Judgment at the Throne of God
            Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

          • acontraryview

            Wow. And you can copy and paste as well. Truly talented!

            “according to their deeds.”

            What? i thought all you needed to get into heaven was to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. What’s all this about “deeds”?

        • Will

          You’re an idiot. Don’t blame the parent for the perverts actions. Are up a stupid lib? I’m guessing.

          • acontraryview

            Wow. You certainly know how to present a compelling argument, Will. Let me guess – captain of the debate team in school?

      • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

        No they do not (have easier access). That is preposterous. You cannot logically demonstrate a connection — let alone provide evidence that one exists.

        • Guest

          It’s already been demonstrated by all the sex crimes committed against children in bathrooms since this law has been passed. In the past, any man looking like a man who walked into a woman’s bathroom would be escorted out. Now, no one can say or do a thing about it without being labeled a bigot or charged.

          • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

            It’s already been demonstrated by all the sex crimes committed against children in bathrooms since this law has been passed

            Passed where? Not in Chicago. What sex crimes have occurred related to trans access? Find one.

            In the past, any man looking like a man who walked into a woman’s bathroom would be escorted out. Now, no one can say or do a thing about it without being labeled a bigot or charged.

            Where? Also wrong. These laws protect trans women using women’s facilities and trans men using men’s facilities. They do not protect people pretending to be transgender if such a thing even exists.

          • Guest

            Go to Breitbart and you will see many of them. Go to Charisma where I’m able to link and have linked this. Search the news. It’s on the rise.

            These laws were not made for the transgender. The transgender have already been using bathrooms for decades with little problem. This law, however, enables perverts to easily access bathrooms without making any sort of effort. Again, this law has nothing to do with the transgender but with helping perverts gain easy access to laws. The transgender are mere pawns in this game.

          • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

            Since you seem to have already done that — Cite a specific case including date and locale.

          • Joe in PA

            **crickets**

          • Guest

            Police: Man attacks 6-year-old girl in women’s bathroom

            A Seattle man, citing transgender bathrooms laws, was able to
            gain access to a women’s locker-room at a public recreational center
            while little girls were changing for swim practice.

            A Toronto man claiming to be transgender was arrested and
            sentenced to jail for sexually assaulting several women in a women’s
            shelter after he gained access to the shelter and its shower facilitates
            as “Jessica.”

            A Virginia man was caught and arrested for peeping
            on and filming two women and a 5-year-old child in a women’s restroom
            after receiving entry by dressing in drag.

            A Los Angeles man dressed in drag, entered a Macy’s department store bathroom and videotaped women under bathroom stalls.

            Man Attacks 6-Year-Old Girl In Public Bathroom

            Two male students were caught at the University of Toronto
            exploiting “gender-neutral” facilities to peep on women in the shower
            with their cellphone cameras.

          • Peter Leh

            Notice:

            Arrested

            Arrested

            Arrested

            you get arrested if you are a predator.

            you will be arrested before trans laws

            you will be arrested after trans laws.

            You will be arrested on a boat!
            with a goat…
            in the rain.
            And in the dark. And on a train.
            And in a car. And in a tree.

            if you are predator the law will not let you be….

            🙂

          • Guest

            That’s because you’re only hearing about those who were arrested. There are many more still on the loose, including government officials.

      • Peter Leh

        “But now they have easier access”

        no easier than before… he just walk right in. It is what criminals do.

        “anyone questioning why a grown man would want to follow a little girl into the bathroom will be labeled a bigot. ”

        grown men do not walk into ladies bathrooms. women and transgender do. Generally you cannot tell them apart. Yes we all have the right to prohibit a grown man from entering women restroom.

        • Guest

          Criminals now can be more blatant about it. No stealth required at all! It’s abuse that’s government sanctioned. A man can waltz into a woman’s washroom, cry discrimination if anyone questions him, and then wait hours before he finds his victim. If you think this is far fetched, it recently happened. See my other posts for citations.

          • Peter Leh

            i dunno. if a man walks into the womens bathroom i’m guessing he is up to no good and is not trans.

          • Guest

            Yet it’s happening all the time. We had a case in Canada where a man entered a woman’s bathroom, was apprehended by a security guard, and the security guard was the one who had to apologize!

          • Peter Leh

            Canada is canada. You got a quick link?

          • Guest

            Google this:

            “City apologizes after security guard barred man from women’s bathroom: will ‘re-educate’ staff”

          • Peter Leh

            Got it.

            TY

          • Guest

            YW.

          • Peter Leh

            Yea… I have no problem with the guard confronting.

            he felt is was a safety issue. No since the person identified himself as trans he should have been let in. According to the story the city and the officer quickly realized the error and apologized.

          • Guest

            If he were trans, why was he dressed as a man, and why did he conduct himself as a man?

          • Peter Leh

            i dont pretend to know

          • Peter Leh

            from SF Bruce:

            There are no reports that Hartstirn was dressed as a woman, nor that
            he claims to be a trans woman. Aggravated kidnapping, aggravated
            battery of a child and aggravated assault of a peace officer, the
            charges brought against Hartstirn, are all still against the law in
            Chicago.

            To suggest that this is somehow the result of trans women using women’s restrooms is completely without foundation.

          • Guest

            Thank you! That’s my point exactly! This has nothing to do with the transgender community, as I’ve been stating all along, but with perverts who are using the law to walk into washrooms and commit molestations.

          • Peter Leh

            “as I’ve been stating all along, but with perverts who are using the law to walk into washrooms and commit molestations.”

            and i have been saying perverts have always been, are already doing it, and always will.

            that is what criminals do. Criminals get arrested and put in jail.

            notice with no law in chicago for trans gendered, this heterosexual predator, not dress like a trans or woman, walks right into a woman’s restroom and assaults a child.

            the perp did not even bother to dress up and exploit a “loophole”.. he just did it with out any help from a trans law.

          • Guest

            We agree on two main points: 1.) Perverts have always been doing this, and 2.) Criminals do this kind of thing. Where we differ in on these 2 points: 1.) Perverts are using the trans bathroom law to increase their activity, and 2.) This so-called trans bathroom law has nothing to do with the trans who are being used as pawns.

          • Peter Leh

            I am not really saying they are not using the law to their advantage as much as i am saying there is no need. as they are doing it anyway. right now. just walking into a woman’s bathroom for the purpose of perpetrating a crime with no help from trans laws

            ex: Chicago.

            Nor does it change the way we have always taught our children what to do and what to look out for when going to the bathroom or in public for that matter.

            and yes we agree the trans are caught in the middle

          • Guest

            Yet sex crimes committed in bathrooms that have these laws are on the increase. There is a co-relation.

          • Peter Leh

            have they? or are we hearing about it from a media grab as the trans laws are in the news?

          • Guest

            Naw, it’s on the rise unfortunately. This new law seems to be hurting trans more than helping them or anyone.

          • Peter Leh

            i would not know if they are really. certainly we hear and see what the media want us to.

            even if it was on the rise it does not mean it is because of any new trans laws.

            Again.. the story above is a story we would never hear if not for the trans law. It is media generated. In addition, the story has nothing to do with the trans law as there is no trans law in Chicago. the perp made no mention that “finally i get to commit my crimes in the women’s restroom without anyone stopping me. Thank you transgender law””.

            But heather is attempting to shove the two together and make it seem he did this crime BECAUSE of the trans law

          • Guest

            Some of the perps have stated that they based their actions on the new law.

          • Peter Leh

            not his guy.

            yet that did not stop heather from a false analogy.

            let heather print the stories you speak of to save her integrity. 🙂

          • Guest

            You don’t know that this guy didn’t think that the law was enacted in Chicago.

          • Peter Leh

            does it matter if he thought it was? It wasn’t

            notice how easily he walked into a woman’s restroom and choked a child with no assistance from the non existent trans law?

          • Guest

            Yes, because the entire west has been programmed into thinking it’s wrong to question a man who enters a woman’s washroom due to trans laws.

          • Peter Leh

            oh come on.

          • Guest

            Look what happened in Canada. The security guard was the one who apologized.

          • Peter Leh

            readily apologized according to the story i found

          • Guest

            Yep. because he’s been brainwashed. It’s going to get to the point where pedophiles’ behavior is sanctioned. Did you see the Salon article about it?

          • Peter Leh

            “It’s going to get to the point where pedophiles’ behavior is sanctioned”

            oh dear. sigh

            Ill bite… tell me how that will work without violating consent laws

          • Guest

            Check out the Salon article. They are attempting to normalize pedophilia. The current line is that children are being denied the right to enjoy sex with an adult.

          • Peter Leh

            if normalize you mean recognize pedophilia as a legitimate attraction and dealing with it appropriately then i have come across some of those articles. ( i have the saloon one up now).

            I believe germany has some interesting programs to help those with pedophilia integrate into a “normal” lifestyle but also be held accountable.

            that is a far cry from saying the ACT of pedophilia will be ” normalized and protected”

            remember ….we are progressing here, not going back to the “good ole days” when a man could do what he wanted to his wife AND children

          • Guest

            How about this quote?”If society more sex-positive I WOULD have sex with a child” From the Salon article.

          • Peter Leh

            again.

            how would that work given age consent laws?

            and you think Salon is endorsing this?

          • Guest

            They are attempting to change age consent laws, just like they’ve slowly changed laws pertaining to same sex unions, etc. Same handbook. Yes, I think Salon is endorsing this. This has been a slow leak for awhile.

          • Peter Leh

            ok. so for that to work we would have to remove ALL age consent law, right?

            as a pedophile is only attracted to the prepubescent, correct?

          • Guest

            Yes, but you act as though that is far fetched. That’s what people said about laws concerning sodomy, etc.

          • Peter Leh

            sex between consenting adults if a far cry from government lifting age of consent.

            You for going back and putting people in prison for sodomy?

            you act like the right to privacy is a bad thing. 🙂

          • Guest

            I’m stating that just as homosexuals used the very same arguments pedophiles are using today, pedophiles will one day gain acceptance just as homosexuals have.

          • Peter Leh

            it is not the same argument. the homosexuals are grown adults, tax paying american citizens with no protection over their committed relationship.

          • Guest

            So tax paying makes it all right? And what do you mean by “no protection”?

          • Peter Leh

            “So tax paying makes it all right?” Right to privacy? you betcha.

            And what do you mean by “no protection”? meaning the couple right had no legal standing over their property, family, healthcare and own bodies.

          • Guest

            Tax paying doesn’t have anything to do with right to privacy.

          • Peter Leh

            but being an american citizen does.

          • Guest

            You said tax paying. And is public bathroom use a right to privacy issue?

          • Peter Leh

            “How about this quote?”If society more sex-positive I WOULD have sex with a child” From the Salon article”

            I missed that. You are quoting todd nickerson in the salon article?

            here is the article for those interested:

            http://www . salon . com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/

          • Guest

            Yes. Here’s another one: “I WOULD engage in sex play with a child … I will never deny that.”

          • Peter Leh

            man… i’m not seeing it in the article

    • concerned

      This unlawful law has made it easier for rapists and child molesters to enter places they previously would have been scrutinized more closely.Now, people will be afraid of being called “anti transgender”.

      • acontraryview

        Yet that has not happened anywhere that these laws have been in place. You are attempting to create a reality that is not based upon reality. That’s called fear-mongering.

        • The Last Trump

          THIS is your reaction to this story? THIS?
          Just incredible.
          Your support and endorsement of victimizing innocent people is disgraceful.
          Your comments are as blatantly agenda driven and transparent as they are shameful. And nobody is buying what you’re selling.

          • acontraryview

            “THIS is your reaction to this story? THIS?”

            No, that was my response to “concerned’s” post. No surprise, however, that you would attempt to distort what I said. It is a trademark of yours.

            “Your support and endorsement of victimizing innocent people is disgraceful.”

            Please cite where I have supported and endorsed victimizing innocent people.

      • Peter Leh

        This guy was not trans gendered. he is a criminal. Criminals do not take notice of any law. These guys have been doing long before discussion of forcing transgenders to use the restroom of their birth.

        • concerned

          I think you misunderstood my comment. I didn’t say transgenders would be likely to do this. I said criminals will use the transgender title as an excuse to gain enttrance to restrooms they don’t belong in. People today are afraid of being labeled anti gay,anti transgender etc.

          • Peter Leh

            Criminal will use ANY excuse.

            but criminals will go… to.. jail

    • The Last Trump

      THIS is your reaction to this story? THIS?
      Just incredible.
      Your support and endorsement of victimizing innocent people is disgraceful.
      Your comments are as blatantly agenda driven and transparent as they are shameful.

      • Peter Leh

        “Your support and endorsement of victimizing innocent people is disgraceful.”

        i have clearly stated this man is a criminal. Criminals by definition do not follow the law. They need no a transgendered law to walk into a bathroom and strangle a child. Criminals have been doing this for thousands of years.

    • ComeOnPeople!

      Now any man who IDENTIFIES as anything feels he has an in road to the ladies room. This man IDENTIFIES as a PERVERTED SICKO. When you pass a law saying transgender males must be ALLOWED into ladies restrooms you now must VIA THE SAME LAW allow other male groups in or you are passing a law that excludes one group and accepts another.

      • acontraryview

        “When you pass a law saying transgender males must be ALLOWED into ladies restrooms you now must VIA THE SAME LAW allow other male groups”

        What other male groups are there?

      • Peter Leh

        “you now must VIA THE SAME LAW allow other male groups in or you are passing a law that excludes one group and accepts another.”

        are bathroom businesses now? Do bathroom fall under the authority of the secretary of state equal protection statues?

        Transgendered bathroom policy had nothing to do with this criminal assaulting this child. I don’t even think Illinois has a transgendered law for bathrooms. So you can;t say a law that does not exist made it easier for this man to commit a crime.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          The point is that men must now be accepted into bathroom is a law is passed. That kind of law would leave the door open to restrooms because people would be afraid to say anything even if they suspect that the person wearing ladies attire is indeed a male. It’s not like they are going to ask the person… Do you identify as a woman or as a pervert? Apart from law men were not being accepted in ladies restrooms was just understood. Transgender people are pushing for a law that makes it now acceptable for men to be in a ladies restroom. That is where the problem is.

          • Peter Leh

            “That kind of law would leave the door open to restrooms because people would be afraid to say anything even if they suspect that the person wearing ladies attire is indeed a male.”

            my wife commented on the transgender in the restroom with her. She (he) minded her own business. My wife said she felt totally comfortable. She felt no need to inquire whether or not she had any business in the bathroom. Why? The transgender was not a criminal. she was a lady in looks and manners. She did not need anything to be said to her.

            The pervert you wont have to ask. you will know. And no law presently or in the past has prevented perverts and criminals from entering the ladies bathroom… today or in the past.

            the story above is nothing knew. The law did not “let him in”. He broke the law.. that is why he is a criminal. pervert will continue to enter male and female bathrooms to commit crime tomorrow, today, as they have numerous times in the past

            Only this time we have the transgender as the evangelical whipping boy /girl.

            “Transgender people are pushing for a law that makes it now acceptable
            for men to be in a ladies restroom. That is where the problem is.”

            transgender people, homosexual people, heterosexual people…. ALL are against men in the ladies room

    • mai1dude39

      So transgendered can’t be criminals?

      Non sequitur, hugely.

      • Peter Leh

        hell, heterosexuals can be criminals.

        law does not matter… to criminals.

        notice the trans law had nothing to do with this perp in chicago… as there is no tran law in chicago to blame what this perp did.

  • Gal5:22-23

    What’s amazing is to me this shows that transgenders are not the risk and that people engaging in criminal acts – no matter their sex or gender identity – can still be arrested for doing illegal things.

    But I suspect it was posted to try and say the exact opposite.

    • Guest

      It’s always been maintained that perverts want this law to gain easier access to women’s bathrooms. Transgenderism has very little to do with it.

      • gizmo23

        Even with bathroom laws this guy would be arrested. He committed a crime that has nothing to do with transgendered people

        • The Last Trump

          Yeah, a real shame nobody stopped him from going into the same bathroom with a little girl!? You know, so the child wouldn’t have had to be victimized?
          Oh wait, that’s right!
          Politically correct m0r0ns without any decency or common sense forced these perverse and unjust laws needlessly upon the rest of us defying all reason. And YOU support and promote that!
          How disgraceful. And look at you trying to deflect any blame now!
          Not happening. This unfortunate child should NEVER have been allowed to be put in such danger. And people like YOU let him in with her. OWN IT.

          • gizmo23

            So Christians own all the kids molested by preachers. I see how it works, your faith promotes it

          • Ronald Carter

            For heaven’s sake, Last Trump, where is your outrage coming from exactly? This story has NOTHING to do with transgendered people. What happened to the girl is absolutely awful but it’s UNRELATED to LGBT people.

          • acontraryview

            “Politically correct m0r0ns without any decency or common sense forced these perverse and unjust laws needlessly upon the rest of us defying all reason. ”

            What law in Chicago are you referring to?

      • Jalapeno

        Yeah, seems like perverts would LOVE a chance to be able to go in the womens bathroom without even trying to pass..

        Oh. Wait. Isn’t that what NC is fighting for?

        • acontraryview

          “Yeah, seems like perverts would LOVE a chance to be able to go in the womens bathroom without even trying to pass..”

          And yet, my spicy pepper, in locations where such laws have been in place for years, there has been no increase in sexual assaults against women or children. So, apparently, perverts aren’t that existed about a chance to be able to go in the women’s bathroom.

          For goodness sake, of all the places a rapist or pedophile would look to in order to assault a woman or child, a public bathroom is about the worst choice. This is much ado about nothing.

          • Jalapeno

            I agree, wholeheartedly, that it’s much ado about nothing.

            What other states have laws forcing people to go in the bathroom based on their birth certificate?

          • acontraryview

            As far as i know, just NC. And even in NC there is no enforcement policy, nor punishment. No arrest can be made. No fine levied. No jail time imposed. it’s basically just for show.

          • Jalapeno

            Yeah, there’s no enforcement or anything.

            I was just confused because I was talking about the NC bill and you said these laws were in place for years. Must have mis-read, my bad.

          • acontraryview

            I was referring to places that have laws in place which allow transgenders to use the bathroom that is in line with their identified gender.

          • Jalapeno

            I was referring to laws like the one in NC.

          • The Last Trump

            Unbelievable. How shameful!
            THIS is your reaction to this crime? THIS??
            I don’t think so pal.
            YOU support and promote these laws that put these children at risk.
            Much ado about nothing!!??
            Not bloody likely. OWN IT.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            You shoulda seen what he said about Bert & Ernie! 🙂

          • acontraryview

            “THIS is your reaction to this crime? THIS?? Deflect the blame?”

            No, that was not my reaction to the crime. That was my response to Jalapeño. No surprise, however, that you would attempt to make it into something else.

        • Guest

          Spell that out, please.

          • Jalapeno

            North Carolina is fighting for a law that enables men to go into the womens restroom without even pretending to pass as a woman with a simple lie.

          • Guest

            I believe you’ve misunderstood that.

            “On March 23, 2016, North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory signed into law the Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, a bathroom bill that applies to students at North Carolina state schools, into law. The bill also overturns an anti-LGBT discrimination ordinance that had been passed by Charlotte, North Carolina, prevents local governments in the state from enacting similar ordinances, and prevents cities from raising their minimum wages higher than that of the state”

          • Jalapeno

            Not at all.

            When we mandate that people go into the bathroom based on their birth certificate, it makes it extremely easy for people who look like a guy to walk into the bathroom by simply claiming that they were born as a woman.

            It means that how they look immediately becomes irrelevant.

          • Guest

            That doesn’t even make sense and it’s not what’s happening. As much as you’d like to deny it, since these laws have passed, there have been an increase in crimes against children in restrooms, and it has little to do with transgenderism and everything to do with pedos gaining easy access to children. This law is not about transgender rights. It’s about pedos in power making it easier for other pedos.

          • Jalapeno

            It does make sense…

            If people are mandated to use the bathroom corresponding with how they are born..

            Someone who looks like a man…including people who are born as men…can walk in and say “I have to be in this bathroom”.

          • Guest

            So what? What do you think the transgendered have been doing for years? There was never a problem before and the only motivation for legislating this is so that perverts have easy access to children. Again, this has nothing to do with the transgendered who have been quietly going about their business for years. This is about higher up pedos granting easy access to fellow pedos.

          • Jalapeno

            Okay..

            Someone who LOOKS LIKE A GUY walks into the womens bathroom and says that they are OBLIGATED to be there.

            You think that’s been happening for years?

          • Guest

            It’s not happening in NC nor anywhere else because those who look like guys, regardless of how they were born, have been using men’s washrooms for years and no one batted an eye.

            Why do you think Joseph R. Murray II says that gays must divorce themselves from the transgender movement? It’s because this entire bathroom law thing is making a mess for the transgender community and others want to be removed from it.

          • Jalapeno

            …Yes..people who look like guys were using the mens bathroom.

            Now…people who look like guys are sometimes forced to use the womens bathroom, which opens up the opportunity for guys who were born as guys to go into the womens bathroom.

          • Guest

            So what?

          • Jalapeno

            So..we have people who look like guys walking into the womens bathroom out of obligation and you don’t understand why that could make it easier for cis men?

          • Guest

            Again – so what? Where are all the bathroom crimes happening? Not North Carolina. They’re happening where the so-called transgender bathroom laws have passed, and again, it’s got nothing to do with the transgender.

          • Jalapeno

            So..it gives perverts a chance to go into the womens bathroom without even pretending to try to pass…as I said.

            That was literally my original statement.

          • Guest

            Except that you are assuming transgenders are perverts. The law specifically states that one must go to the bathroom of one’s sex at birth. Do you really think no one could tell that a man who obviously had no surgery, and who walks into the bathroom, can’t be verified as a man?

          • Jalapeno

            No.. I’m not saying that all. I’m saying that it makes it easy for people who are cis men to lie and get into the bathroom.

            What do you think would happen if someone who looks like a guy walks in and says they were born as a woman?

          • Guest

            That claim can be proven true or false. Now, anyone can walk into most bathrooms and not even try to pretend anything. It’s easier access for the pervs and does nothing to help the transgender.

          • Jalapeno

            I’m talking specifically about the law in NC.

            So..what do you think happens? Are they supposed to carry a copy of their birth certificate on them at all times?

            In places like Washington, if its suspected that someone is going into a place where they don’t belong, there’s a system in place. It’s pretty easy to tell whether or not someone looks like a guy, too.

          • Guest

            Then why are molestations and rapes on the rise?

          • Jalapeno

            It’s crazy what people will do to prove a point, eh?

            What do you think happens when someone who looks like a guy goes in the womens bathroom?

            Do you think it would change if they’re lying? Are they supposed to carry a birth certificate at all times?

          • Guest

            So why are rapes and molestations on the rise?

          • Jalapeno

            Since the law?

            ..Because people like making a point of things.

            What do you think happens?

          • Guest

            Yes, since the law. And are you claiming that offenders are offending at a higher rate to “make a point of things”? What – you think they are political activists?! They’re doing it because they have gained easier access to children.

          • Jalapeno

            Yeah, those people admitting that they did it to make a point are irrelevant.

            Okay..so..this shouldn’t be a difficult question.

            I know you’re trying to act like laws like NC bathroom laws keep perverts out.

            What do you think would happen if a guy walks into a bathroom and says “I was born a woman, I have to be here”?

          • Guest

            Name one person who has admitted to raping a little girl to “make a point”.

            Regarding your last question – it happens all the time. They enter the washroom and then molest someone. Case in point? “It was a busy time at Evans Pool around 5:30 p.m. Monday February 8,” reports KING5 News.“The pool was open for lap swim. According to Seattle Parks and Recreation, a man wearing board shorts entered the women’s locker room and took off his shirt. Women alerted staff, who told the man to leave, but he said ‘the law has changed and I have a right to be here.’”

            Subsequent to this new rule, no one called the police on this man who reportedly came back a second time when young girls were changing into their swimsuits for swim practice.”

          • Jalapeno

            Okay, good.

            We agree.

            The NC laws make it easy for perverts to be perverts.

          • Guest

            Nope. The initial law makes it easy for pervs to be pervs. The NC law is trying to protect its children. That’s admirable.

          • Jalapeno

            Forcing a situation where all a guy needs to do to be in the bathroom is say “I was born a woman” is protecting children?

            How?

            Some laws, like the one WA is dealing with, make it so people who obviously don’t belong in the bathroom don’t get to stay…it’s more about protecting people and less about making people feel better about themselves. Seems like that should be the priority.

          • Guest

            You know it’s possible just by looking to know if someone was born a man, don’t you?

          • Jalapeno

            Did you plan on doing genital checks? Checking to see if they have facial hair or pecs?

            Just..making the assumption that no one can truly pass?

          • Guest

            If someone has doubts, they can ask for a check. Why not? Isn’t safety paramount?

          • Jalapeno

            Sorry if it double replies later, I got irrationally mad at the comment remover when you post a link.

            http:// imgur. com/a/ BmIdE (remove spaces)

            Do we plan on just expecting everyone to keep birth certificates out?

            Do we plan on kicking out the guy with glasses if he looks to feminine..or do we allow the army guy in if he says he was born a woman?

          • Guest

            If someone is acting suspicious, you check him out.

          • Jalapeno

            Okay.. So.. It’s based on behavior instead of whether or not they look too masculine?

            Or.. Would you kick out some of those people from the bathroom based on how they look?

          • Guest

            Men in men’s bathrooms, women’s in women’s. It’s not rocket science to tell the difference. If someone acts odd, check him/her out. That simple. It’s worked for decades. Why change it now?

          • Jalapeno

            I don’t know, why don’t you check with North Carolina?

          • Guest

            It’s clear you don’t know.

          • Jalapeno

            Let me guess…other than the side-benefits of eliminating powers at the local level, its a step to making sure that those silly trans people can’t offend people by being in the wrong bathroom.

            So..are you saying we should just kick people out if they’re causing an issue..or should we base it on whether or not they look feminine enough…or do we do DNA checks at the door?

          • Guest

            I have stated that trans have used washrooms for decades without this being an issue. I am speaking solely of perverts using the trans law to gain easy access to bathrooms.

          • Jalapeno

            I know…

            The NC law makes it easier for perverts to gain access to the bathroom. Thus, you should be looking at why we had to put that law in place.

            Laws like the ones in Washington make it harder, but still provide some protections for trans people than we had before.

          • Guest

            You keep blaming NC for something that hasn’t happened – cases of abuse haven’t increased in NC, but they HAVE increased in states that push for the trans bathroom law.

          • Jalapeno

            I’m blaming them for passing the law.

            What do you think happens if a man walks into the bathroom in NC and says he was born as a woman?

            What happens if the same man does that in Washington?

          • Guest

            Why speculate? Why not go by what has happened, and that is that sex crimes committed in bathrooms are on the rise in states that have the trans bathroom law.

          • Jalapeno

            That’s not speculation..it’s a basic understanding of the law.

            What happens if a man walks into a bathroom in NC and claims he was born a woman?

            What happens if they do that in Washington?

          • Guest

            You keep wanting to discuss speculative imaginary scenarios, yet refuse to look at reality: Crimes ARE on the increase in states that enforce the trans bathroom law. I believe only one was committed by someone who identified as trans. All the others were committed by non-trans individuals. Why is that?

          • Jalapeno

            Maybe because trans people just want to use the bathroom in peace. Crazy thought.

            Before, people used the bathroom that they effectively belonged in. That’s how things are..that’s how things should be.

            Some laws let people continue doing that.

            Others do not.

            Some people take advantage of a situation, sometimes to make a point sometimes just because they want to. The key to preventing that is not to put more restrictions in place…it’s not to force a situation where people who look like men are FORCED to use the bathroom with the women.

            How in the world do you think that would help anyone?

          • Guest

            Trans people have used the bathroom in peace for decades. Now some idiot lawmakers have decided to make them the focus of a stupid law that has nothing at all to do with them, that did not serve their needs or better their lives in any way, and who will be blamed with sex crimes CONTINUE to increase?

          • Jalapeno

            Yes…It was fine before, so why are you in favor of restrictions?

            Why do you think forcing a situation where people who look like men are forced into the bathroom would protect the children?

          • Guest

            Restrictions only come with the trans bathroom law – women are restricted from kicking men out of their bathrooms.

          • Jalapeno

            There are three basic types.

            -You must go in the bathroom corresponding to your identity.

            -You must go in the bathroom corresponding to how you were born.

            -You can go in any bathroom.

            Type 1 has the least possibilities of abuse. That is the one I am in favor of.

          • Guest

            So why make a law? Hasn’t that been what’s been going on for decades? And now with the trans bathroom laws, sexual crimes committed in bathrooms in on the increase.

          • Jalapeno

            Beacuse people in NC thought it was a good idea to restrict bathroom access, and some people have an issue with the violence that has been happening in bathrooms and want to solidify it in the law.

          • Guest

            What you don’t realize is that what you are accusing NC of doing – allowing perverts in – proves that you think trans are perverts.

          • Jalapeno

            No..I’m accusing them of basing their laws on your birth sex instead of what you identify as.

          • Guest

            There is nothing wrong with basing laws on birth sex. However, you claimed that trans men were perverts when you said that NC allowing them into women’s bathrooms would be allowing perverts entry. Read your own words.

          • Jalapeno

            No..I said that it would allow easy access for perverts that LIE about what sex they were born as…bringing to attention the fact that all it would require in most situations is a simple statement.

          • Guest

            So what? Perverts can lie about anything. The NC law does not make it easier for perverts to gain access to children. The other bathroom laws do.

          • Jalapeno

            Some laws base it on how you look, a guy would have to at least try to pass.

            In NC though, he doesn’t need to even bother with a skirt.. There’s an easy explanation for why he looks like he doesn’t belong.

          • Guest

            In these recent sex crime attacks (the ones that are on the rise), only one man attempted to disguise himself as transgender. In all the other cases, men literally just walked into the bathroom and sexually assaulted a minor. There has not been one case of such a sexual assault in NC though.

          • Jalapeno

            Did you recall the three general types of laws?

          • Guest

            Did you recall that you are the only one calling trans perverts?

          • Jalapeno

            I’m not.

            I’ve stated repeatedly that I am absolutely not saying that. Why are you so stuck on that idea? Can you not make sense of it otherwise?

          • Guest

            You may not mean to say it, but you are saying it. Carefully re-read your posts.

          • Jalapeno

            No..I am not.

            Not even close.

            I am saying that certain laws make it easier for perverts to get in the bathroom.

            That does not mean that the people the laws are intended for are perverts.

          • Guest

            The laws that make it easier for perverts to get into bathrooms are the so-called trans laws. Read what you said about NC law – you make it sound like any trans who enters the bathroom that correlates to his birth sex is a perv.

          • Jalapeno

            No..just, no.

            I make it sound like people are acting on these trans laws based on their opinion that it makes it easier for people who do not belong in the bathroom to be in there…

            That does not mean that trans people do not belong there..it means that many people think that bathrooms are a safe haven because boys are not allowed.

          • Guest

            Again, re-read your own posts.

          • Jalapeno

            Go ahead.

            Show me ONE PLACE where I said that I’m saying trans people are perverts.

            Just one. Should be easy, right?

          • Guest

            Your original post. Read it. You don’t mean to say it, perhaps, but you DO say it.

          • Jalapeno

            Where exactly do you think I said it?

            I’m telling you now, I never did. Nothing that could even be construed in any logical fashion as meaning anything like that.

          • Guest

            Your original post. Re-read it.

          • gizmo23

            Where are molestations on the rise?

      • Gal5:22-23

        sure didn’t work out this time, did it?

        • Guest

          How so? The number of reported molestations are on the rise, and who knows just how many went unreported? There have been lots of cameras found in bathrooms of late.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Fear mongering. We have a Bureau of Justice Statistics that shows assaults against children have been steadily and significantly declining since the 1970’s, as are the estimates of unreported assaults. And ‘lots of cameras’ in an times of ‘lots of cameras’ is hardly be unexpected – the cameras are usually placed when no one is in the facility.

            You can’t make up things to win arguments, most people know that.

          • Guest

            You are not telling the truth. Have you been deceived yourself, or are you intentionally deceiving posters. Sex crimes have been on the increase against small children – not camera crimes but rape and molestation crimes – since this bathroom law has been in place. And you know who’s going to be blamed for it? The transgender community even though they’re not the ones committing the crimes. This law has nothing at all to do with the transgender who are being used as pawns. It has everything to do with perverts enabling other perverts easy access to their prey.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Lots of words with no facts. Fear mongering doesn’t work against those that walk with Christ.

          • Guest

            You’re just pretending not to see facts because they don’t jive with your agenda. And yes, fear mongering does not work against those who are really in Christ, which is why your words have no power here or anywhere. So are you Oshtur or MensaMom?

          • Gal5:22-23

            More empty words. We have a government agency that has been doing statistics for decades. I know you don’t like it but the notion that child molestation is on the rise is a lie., fear mongering at its most obvious.

            For any honest person reading, the news stories are about abuse decades old. That is the point: things that used to be swept under the rug aren’t anymore. Most child abuse is by someone they know, worrying about transgender a doing it is like worrying about getting struck by a meteor.

            Trust God to deal with this world and walk in the next.

          • Guest

            So you’re MensaMom then, or Oshtur?

            As far as stats go, you are wrong about them. Don’t hide your head in the sand. You are in this world and have to deal with all that entails, which means protecting children from abusers, The numbers are up since this law. Why is that?

          • Gal5:22-23

            yeah an agency that analyzes justice department statistics didn’t get it right it you did.

            Ha ha, good joke and I’m laughing.

            oh please show me the numbers since 10 years ago.

            You are a hoot.

          • Guest

            Yep, it’s MensaMom. I’ll be sure to let the Charisma mods know you’re back.

          • Gal5:22-23

            So no content just ad hominem? But not being able to argue the topic is your cardinal quality.

            You’ve never won a fair fight, have you?

          • Guest

            Okay, MensaMom, you’re not very good at this. 🙂 There’s nothing ad hominem about the truth. If you want citations, scroll up. I’ve posted quite a few of them.

          • Gal5:22-23

            you provided no proof of your assertions. Discussion with you is pointless – you can’t just make things up and convince anyone.

            Again, so glad the new app has a blocked feature. bye bye

          • Guest

            Thanks for proving you are MensaMom and you’re here to push the LGBT agenda under the guise of being a Christian.

  • Oboehner

    This has to be made up, those wacky transgenders would never do that, they just want to be normal.

    • Peter Leh

      notice the predator was a heterosexual?

      • Oboehner

        Notice the move was facilitated by the “use whatever restroom you see fit” movement?

        • Peter Leh

          not in chicago. not were this guy was

          • Oboehner

            That makes it worse, how much more will there be when it ok to use as you see fit?

          • Peter Leh

            more going to jail for choking a child?

            it should be that way , no?

          • Oboehner

            Enabling the man to enter a restroom and choke a child.

          • Peter Leh

            note this man was not enabled at all.

          • Oboehner

            Future ones will be.

          • Peter Leh

            more than this one?

            naw he just walked on in…. WITH THE LAW AGAINST HIM

          • Oboehner

            He won’t just walk in once the law is WITH him, will he?

          • Peter Leh

            he had no need for it.. law or no law.

          • Oboehner

            Right, it was only because it was illegal that he did that, make it legal and *poof* he’ll never do it again!

          • Peter Leh

            no.. he did it because he was a predator.

          • Oboehner

            According to your logic it would make a difference.

  • acontraryview

    Yet another reason why the laws should be changed. If men who identify as women were in the bathroom at the same time, they would have beat the cr*p out of this guy.

    • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

      But transvestites r mostly sissies who often get the crap beaten out of them by real macho men.

      • acontraryview

        Tell Fallon Fox you think she is a sissy and see what happens.

        • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

          Fallon Fox is also a sissy transvestites bc he/she only fights female MMA fighters. If he/she is not a sissy, he/she should be fighting male MMA fighters. Fallon Fox is nothing but a bully of women.

          • acontraryview

            I would pay money to see you say that to her face.

          • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

            I would pay money to see u fight Wladimir Klitschko.

    • The Last Trump

      Wow.
      Grasping at straws are we?
      Yeah. I don’t pity your uncomfortable position here. Looks good on you. Own it.

      • acontraryview

        Not too quick on recognizing sarcasm, are you?

        • JeffreyRo55

          You never meet heterosexuals apparently.

  • concerned

    All public places , like restaurants and stores ,will need to provide guards in bathrooms to avoid the many attempts at assault that women and children and young boys will be facing.

    • acontraryview

      Yes. The many assaults. Like all the ones that have occurred in places that have such laws in place for some time. Oh wait. Those places don’t have guards and there has been no increase in assaults. Never mind.

      • The Last Trump

        Oh, WE mind alright.
        Shame on you for trying ceaselessly here to try to distance this horrific crime from your agenda driven mission of needlessly placing the innocent at risk.
        Oh no you don’t!
        OWN IT.

        • acontraryview

          I don’t have to try to distance myself. This crime and the issue of allowing transgender individuals to use the bathroom of their identified gender are not related. Chicago has no such laws. If you look at actual statistics, innocent children are at greatest risk from being alone with male family members or males who are in a position of authority over children. So, if you were REALLY concerned about safety of children, you would be pushing to make it illegal for males to be alone with children.

          But, of course, you aren’t. Instead you are trying to mask your prejudice against transgenders by fabricating danger if such laws are passed.

          OWN IT!

        • gogo0

          theyre as at-risk now as they ever have been. how many lesbians have LUSTED after your wives and daughters in the toilet (likely none)? how many have RAPED them (likely none)? for some reason you guys just haven’t cared about those “dangerous” bathrooms until now.
          you people are delusional and are getting yourselves all whipped up and afraid over something you cannot even demonstrate is real. I’m talking about the bathrooms in this case -that description fits so many aspects of religious fundamentalist communities.

    • gizmo23

      We will know need bathroom police to check fenitals at the door

  • Michael C

    Criminals don’t need “permission” to enter the ladies’ room to commit a crime. Why would they? They’re criminals. They just walk right in.

    They don’t need to pretend to be transgender to commit crimes. Why would they? They’re criminals. They just walk right in.

    Prohibiting transgender people from using the correct bathroom won’t stop criminals like this one. It won’t stop crimes like this.

    …as an aside, transgender men and women have been protected from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations in Illinois for almost a decade. This “as city officials continue their push for restroom accommodations” statement is garbage. Protecting transgender men and women from discrimination isn’t a new thing for Illinoisans.

  • patrick mayer

    This guy was not transgender or pretending to be.

    • The Last Trump

      Too bad he’s allowed in now REGARDLESS, huh? Thank YOU.

      • acontraryview

        He’s not allowed in. There is no law in Chicago that allows transgenders to use the bathroom of their identified gender.

        • ISA41:10

          Transgender = Homo = Pervert

          • Ronald Carter

            Wrong. Transgenders are not homosexuals. If you change someone’s sex, their innate attraction doesn’t switch with it. And neither homosexuals nor transgendered people are perverts.

          • acontraryview

            I’d suggest that you take a remedial course in math, as you clearly are unaware of what “=” means.

          • Ronald Carter

            Me?

          • acontraryview

            No. Sorry. Responded to the wrong post.

          • ISA41:10

            They sure are perverts!

          • acontraryview

            I’d suggest that you take a remedial course in math, as you clearly are unaware of what “=” means.

          • ISA41:10

            It means precisely what I said it means.

            I never thought that I would see the day when there was an attempt by the President of the United States to force me to treat freaks & perverts the same as everyone else.

          • acontraryview

            “It means precisely what I said it means.”

            Then you have a very poor understanding. Transgender people are not gay.

            “to force me to treat freaks & perverts the same as everyone else.”

            As long as you stay within the confines of the law, which would also apply to everyone else, you are free to treat who you identify as “freaks and perverts” anyway you care to. There is no forcing.

          • ISA41:10

            They are too gay. I wish people would stop using the word “transgender”. There’s no such thing. People are born male and female. That’s it. There’s no other options.

            If each person will not accept their gender, the problem is mental, emotional, or spiritual, or all three. Pretending to be the other gender, and going so far as to mutilate your body is NOT the solution. It clearly is a mental disorder.

      • Elie Challita

        No, he isn’t. There’s actually pretty well defined criteria for who qualifies as transgender, even before they go for the genital surgery.

    • ComeOnPeople!

      Point being that all this hoopla about transgender males being allowed BY LAW (not just keep using the restroom as they have been BUT VIA LAW) to use the ladies room is sending signals to males who IDENTIFY as PERVERTS that they now have an in.

      • acontraryview

        And, yet, despite such laws being in place in some locations for years, there has not been a single case of a sexual assault on a female in a bathroom.

        • Will

          You know this how? You’re a moron.

          • acontraryview

            It’s called E D U C A T I O N. You should try it sometime, Will.

          • Matt Burkholder

            Education is a funny thing. Lots and lots of people have been ‘educated’ far in excess of their ability to think for themselves. Parroting your programming and brainwash bias is not ‘education’, and no amount of smug self righteousness will ever change that. Isn’t that right, acountryview? Why yes. Yes it is. All your vaunted ‘education’ has not given you the ability to see the massive ego trip it produces in you people like you. Ironic, isn’t it?

          • acontraryview

            “Parroting your programming and brainwash bias”

            What programming and bias is it you believe I am parroting?

            “the massive ego trip it produces in you people like you.”

            You people like you? First, who is you people and please describe this “massive ego trip” that you believe is being produced.

          • gogo0

            your brainwashing is better than other people’s brainwashing? what a radical thought!

          • Gal5:22-23

            Is calling people ‘a moron’ ok on this site?

          • Joe in PA

            That’s the LEAST of this site’s problems. Sigh.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Well they ban some because they respond in kind but leave the person calling others ‘morons’ here. It is alright to name call or not? Or does it depend on who’s doing the name calling (don’t you wish all cliques went away in high school?)

          • gogo0

            this is their “safe space”.
            comments they don’t agree with get flagged and deleted, comments they agree with (hateful, overtly racist, sexist, simple name-calling, etc) remain.

          • Bob Johnson

            First step is a simple Google keyword search. (When you get the list be sure to check the sources for extreme bias from both the left and right.)

            Google also provides a scholar search so you can read the peer reviewed literature.

        • Matt Burkholder

          Really? For years? Oh my! Please provide proof for this rather breathtaking assertion.

          • Gal5:22-23

            it’s been the law in Washington state for 10 years, is that enough?

          • Joe in PA

            BTW, more people here at “ChristianNews” should follow your avatar:

            But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

            Thank you.

          • Gal5:22-23

            One reason I’m here, so many people calling themselves Christian have rejected the Spirit.

          • Ronald Carter

            I am fascinated by the angry people who post here. And I am NOT referring to the atheists.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Yes, a Christian that can’t muster any joy, love and compassion is a quandary to me, it’s the most wonderful part of being saved in my opinion. So many here seem so fearful of the endgame when leaving it totally in God’s hands is what He asked us to do. My ‘job’ as a Christian is to do as Christ asked right now, the future is God’s to worry about.

          • Gal 5:22-23

            You mean the gays.
            They’re not happy people.

          • Ronald Carter

            Well, nothing comes close to the rage I see posted here by the Christian Fundamentalists.

          • acontraryview

            My pleasure – just remove the space before “ap” and before “org”.

            http://hosted. ap. org/dynamic/stories/U/US_LGBT_RIGHTS_SCHOOLS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-05-14-11-35-38

          • Bob Johnson

            Transgender anti-discrimination laws in public accommodation are not new.
            Colorado – 2008
            Connecticut – 2011
            Hawaii – 2006
            Iowa – 2007
            Maine – 2005
            Cambridge Massachusetts – 1997 – That’s over 20 years for one city.
            Minnesota – 1993
            Nevada – 2011
            New Mexico – 2003
            Oregon – 2007
            Rhode Island – 2001
            Vermont – 2007

            (source MediaMatters)

      • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

        That is absurd. There is no such connection that can be validated. Can you point to one case of sexual assault due to transgender access?

      • Gal5:22-23

        No, it doesn’t. No matter how someone is dressed if they are using the restroom for its usual activities they come in, do their business, wash their hands, and exit.

        A loiterer, male or female, masculine or feminine attire, especially one who seems overly interested in others using the restroom can be challenged and asked to leave just as they can in locker rooms or any other place, shoot even restaurants and bus stations.

        This is a non-issue other than for those who just love to scare others or love to be afraid themselves. If they would all just go and see ‘The Darkness’ we’d all be better off.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          It becomes an issue when people push into law the acceptance of men into ladies restrooms . Men have never been accepted by society into ladies rooms. When you create a law that makes it acceptable for one type of male to enter then you will have other male groups that will use that same law to access the area. They will simple claim they were having an identity crisis and believed themselves to be a woman.

          • Gal5:22-23

            And they will be arrested or removed if they do anything wrong. What does it matter if the person goes in, does their business, and leaves? A leering or invasive person of either sex can be removed from a restroom or locker room no matter their attire, they always have been. There is no right to be in a locker room for any reason you want no matter your sex. This is about people that look like women using the women’s room and those that look like men using the mens.

            Had dinner at a church retreat two weekends ago with a transgender man. His deltoids, biceps and triceps are about twice the size of mine and has a full beard. Because he hasn’t and isn’t going to go through the expensive and many consider pointless exercise of penile reconstructive surgery he has to use the ladies room? Did you watch ‘Undercover Boss’ last night? Should that trans-woman have to go use the men’s room?

            If a person is being disruptive or there for reasons other than the purpose of the room no matter what their sex is report them!

      • Morgan B

        That guy isn’t transgender, this is a male who MADE THE CONSCIOUS DECISION TO ENTER A RESTROOM AND HURT ANOTHER PERSON, hold him accountable, don’t blame a whole group of people who have literally nothing to do with this assault just because you hold the same veiws as the person who committed an actual crime.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          No one is blaming a group of people. We are blaming LAWs that will give perverts access to areas that normally kept them out. Not kept out be laws before but kept out because men were never accepted in to female restrooms but now will be allowed in because of Laws that state if they identify as women they now can enter. Well the only indictor now will be their feels and not their gender. Therefore just as any criminal mind they have a loop hole. They can just claim they identify as women. It’s the law that may be passed that so many are apposing . Men of any kind have never been accepted in female restroom.

          • Peter Leh

            “We are blaming LAWs that will give perverts access to areas that normally kept them out.”

            predators are already getting in with the laws that prevent them from going in now. the trans law will not give predators anymore access than they already have and are already doing.

            that is why they are called criminals.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            NO you are missing the point. NO male has ever been accepted into a woman’s restroom. Not because of law but because of the morals held by people. If you make a law that forces males to be accepted into ladies restrooms you open the door to males who IDENTIFY as perverts into the restroom . They will simple dress up as women and use that law as a loop hole. No one will be able to discern which are men who identify as women and which are men only dressing the part and identify as perverts. When you base laws upon what people identify with or as you have no way to regulate that.

          • Peter Leh

            No one will be able to discern which are men who identify as women and
            which are men only dressing the part and identify as perverts.”

            generally you recognized the one who does not belong when his hands are around your throat choking the life out of you.

            Like this criminal did.. with no help at all from the non existence trans law.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            You said “generally you recognized the one who does not belong when his hands are around your throat choking the life out of you.”

            Generally by the time the man has his hands around my throat in the restroom it will be a little to late to discern whether he identifies as a woman or identifies as a pervert.

          • Peter Leh

            yep. that is want criminals do.

            and no law will change that

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I can see now that I am trying to reason with someone who cannot reason.

          • Peter Leh

            I know what you are saying.. i don’t accept it. No law will increase the risk from predators

            no law make a difference to criminals.

      • Fyva Prold

        Transgender males (born as females, but living and presenting as males) are allowed to use male bathroom.

        Transgender females (born as males, but living and presenting as females) are allowed to use female bathroom.

        You’ve got these mixed the other way around.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          I’m not the one mixing things around. Read what you just wrote. That is total break from reality.

      • Elie Challita

        Nope, sorry. Regardless of which bathroom you use, peeping and assault are still crimes, and will be punished accordingly.

        • JeffreyRo55

          You’re the expert.

          • Elie Challita

            Compared to the average conservative, yes, I am.

          • Peter Leh

            we have no history of assault or peeping crimes in our immediate family by homosexuals relatives …. plenty from heterosexual relatives.

  • Nidalap

    The little girl’s plight will move precious few of those in favor of this madness. Just a necessary sacrifice for the cause…

    • gizmo23

      News flash ” man murdered in state pushing pro life laws” What a redicious headline

    • Ronald Carter

      In favor of WHAT madness? You think there is a “cause” or “movement” that wants to see little girls treated this way? Are you seriously saying that the LGBT “movement” is behind what happened to that poor little girl?

      • Nidalap

        Not specifically, no. But the leaders of the perversion movement ARE willing to ease the path of predators to their prey for the sake of their cause. If the rules they insist be forced upon society result in more injuries of this nature, so be it. The end justifies the means…

        • Ronald Carter

          …so you think there is a PERVERSION movement, and it has a goal of making innocent people “prey” to LGBT people…

          (Backing away slowly)

          • Nidalap

            There is. Would-be dictators throughout time have glomed onto such groups. Since their fantasy utopia can only be forced onto a population through a strong, jack-booted central government, they’re very helpful about funneling power into just such a structure.
            Of course, once the government is empowered, these groups tend to be thrown under the proverbial (and sometimes not so proverbial) bus…

          • Ronald Carter

            What makes you think even for a heartbeat that LGBT people have any interest in “preying” on anyone???

          • Nidalap

            “Preying” is the term you used. And they are human beings yet. Their LGBT-itude does not confer an immunity from the darkness that may dwell in any human heart.

          • Ronald Carter

            I used the word “preying” because you used the word “predators” and “prey”, and I’m still sitting here in shocked disbelief that you did.

    • Peter Leh

      is there transgender bathroom laws in Illinois?

      If not, how can you say this guy did it because of a cause that does not exist?

  • The Last Trump

    This family needs to sue. Sue Obama. Sue the governor. Sue the mayor. Sue the restaurant.
    SUE EVERYBODY.
    These knuckleheads wanted to force unjust and insane laws and policies on the population despite their objections which put them in unnecessary, easily avoidable, COMPLETELY predictable danger. Time to suffer the consequences of such poor judgment and complete lack of foresight.
    These foolish, unthinking PC lib bots must be held accountable for their actions.
    This is unacceptable.

    • Gal5:22-23

      Do you realize your screed comes off as completely satirical? If I didn’t know from the past you were serious, I would have thought you were making fun of the fear mongering some are using.

      No one is going to take that level of fear mongering seriously, take it down a notch.

    • Ronald Carter

      “Sue everybody”.

      Really great. One maniac does something abhorrent to a little girl and your answer is to put the blame on “everybody”. How about getting “liberals” out of your crosshairs and go after the person at fault here – the man who committed the crime?

      • The Last Trump

        The criminal will do his time. But the damage is done.
        Its the libtards who put guys like him in bathrooms with little girls who deserve our immediate attention, thanks.
        Anybody stupid enough to advocate for men in ladies rooms is 100% complicit and should be treated as such when somebody SO PREDICTABLY chooses to take advantage of such a ridiculous and outrageous policy.
        Who DIDN’T see this coming!?
        Oh, yeah. That’s right. The libtards who could care less about the safety of innocent children. As long as their sick agenda pushes forward. Disgraceful.
        You should be ashamed of yourself. Here advocating daily to put men in bathrooms with vulnerable women and innocent little girls.
        But you don’t feel the slightest bit responsible, do you?
        Shocker.

        • Ronald Carter

          “It’s the libtards…”

          No it ISN’T, Last Trump, you seem to want to place the blame as conveniently as possible on the people who bug you on a daily basis. This is the fault of one person, namely the sicko who did this horrible thing. You keep trying to make it symptomatic of a bigger problem like it’s some crazy conspiracy theory. It ISN’T.

          “Advocating daily to put men in bathrooms with vulnerable little girls”. You making up ridiculous crap again, that’s all that is, and worst of all, the transgender issue is STILL irrelevant here.

          • The Last Trump

            OWN IT “Ron”.
            You wanted it.
            THAT’S what it looks like.
            Not very attractive, is it?
            Shame on you. You should have known better than that.
            Where is your common sense, man? Unbelievable.
            100% complicit.

          • Ronald Carter

            OK, you can knock off the quotation marks around my name first of all. My name is Ronald Alexander Carter. Deal with it.

            Secondly, it’s really getting old, you blaming everyone you dislike for the evil things that happen in life. Find out the name of the sicko who did this, and hate on him to your heart’s content. And I’ll gladly join you. But stop blaming this on people who are already receiving the brunt of your abuse.

            How do you sleep at night?
            0% complicit. Signed, sealed and delivered. Deal with it.

          • The Last Trump

            How could you….
            She was just a little girl. So sad.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, a little girl who was assaulted by Reese Hartstirn. Not by Obama, or the governor of Illinois, or by “everybody.” So it makes no sense that you’d want to sue them.

            What cause of action should the family sue under?

          • Ronald Carter

            “How could I” WHAT? I don’t support what happened to this little girl. But it’s only the fault of the guy who DID it, and no one else.

          • Roger Peritone

            As I said before. This was NOT a “trans” man who did this. This was a biological man who identified as such, who did this. And you say “100% complicit”?

            For a crime that did not even involve a trans person??

    • acontraryview

      “This family needs to sue. Sue Obama. Sue the governor. Sue the mayor. Sue the restaurant.

      SUE EVERYBODY.”

      Sue them on what basis?

    • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

      Sue the attacker’s internet provider for giving him access to porn. Sue the people that run the sites that he got his ideas from. They’re all accessories to the attack. Yep, nobody said porn. I said it.

    • Roger Peritone

      You do realize that this was a biological man, a hetero man who identified as such, who did this, right?

      The title of this article has deceived you, as it was probably intended to do, into thinking that some “trans” person did this.

  • Michael C

    1. Did this horrific incident occur because transgender men and women have been protected from discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations in the State of Illinois for the past decade?

    2. Would this incident have been prevented if Illinois prohibited transgender men and women from using the appropriate restroom?

    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      Dear Michael.
      sorry to interrupt your dialogue. We know the answer to
      both questions in no. This whole debate about transgender bathrooms is
      the biggest non issue I have ever read about. I wonder how these
      transgenders law will protect boys from paedophiles who use the same
      restroom as them.

      Statistics Show Exactly How Many Times Trans People Have Attacked You in Bathrooms

      By Marcie Bianco April 02, 2015

      Like Mic on Facebook:

      Surprise: There are zero reported cases of this happening.

      Several
      states, including Arizona, Florida, Texas and Kentucky, have considered
      or are considering enacting so-called “bathroom bills,” which restrict
      transgender people from using the bathroom in line with their gender
      identity, and are framed as “protective” measures against “sexual
      predators.”

      But these bills are not protective. They’re vehicles
      for instilling fear of trans and gender-nonconforming people. For
      example, Florida State Representative Frank Artiles (R), who sponsored
      the Single Sex Public Facilities bill (HB 583), did not provide any
      evidence that a trans person has ever attacked cisgender
      (non-transgender) people in public restrooms when pressed by BuzzFeed in
      February. On his blog, Artiles wrote that this bill is a “preventative”
      measure and was not spurred by a specific incident.

  • gizmo23

    I can’t believe that this is the number 1 issue for the Christian community. The fear and boredom of people never ceases to amaze me

    • Brad F

      It’s the number one issue for sexual deviates. Their fear and boredom are the gold standard. People without love cultivate paranoia, it makes them feel important.

      • gizmo23

        Then Christians are at the top of the list

  • Jordan Stryk

    As Patrick Mayer said – that man is not transgender. He’s a child rapist and pedophile. People are using this pedophile as a reason to attack the rights of transgender men and women and I most certainly hope this isn’t the case for Christian News.

  • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

    This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with transgender access. Indeed, Chicago has no such access. Attempting to tie this to the real issue is outrageously intellectually dishonest.

    • Carlo

      You’re the expert on dishonesty.

  • Ronald Carter

    Um…I looked and looked, but what does this story have to do with transgenders?

    • acontraryview

      Absolutely nothing.

  • Morgan B

    Hmm, a non transgender male assaulted a child in a restroom trying to prove that transgender people are the horrible ones. What a flawed logic. More proof that a sign on a door will not stop predator’s, it has nothing to do with how people identify their gender and everything to do with shitty people assaulting others. It happens regardless of laws because people who are going to hurt others DO NOT CARE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED. There are more assaults by nontransgender people in restrooms then any transgender, that’s statistically proven. Let people piss in peace.

  • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ DavidHart-slowlyboiledfrog.com

    I cannot post links here and I usually do not write pieces on Sunday but I have addressed this particular post of Ms. Clark on the Frog.

    • Joe in PA

      And we thank you for it. Love your blog.

    • calduncan

      That is so wonderful!! All 5 members of your little sorority will be supremely impressed.

  • Gal5:22-23

    This Sunday’s Non Sequitur comic strip reveals the true thing that freaks women out about men in the ladies room 😉

    • Diaris

      So what?

      • Gal5:22-23

        a humorous aside to the discussion. Add a little joy to your life.

        • Diaris

          Joy is not something that would ever be associated with homosexuals. Their “humor” is gallows stuff. They know their lives are vulgar and low.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Hard-heartedness is not the path to salvation. And since you must have looked at the comic you must know it had nothing to do with homosexuals, but with men. If you didn’t look – shame on you.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    It’s better for men to go die rather than harm women or children. ( Matthew ch. 18, Mark ch. 9, Luke ch. 7)

    • Ronald Carter

      The man in this story is not a transgender, Grace.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Whatever. Men are men and must not enter into women’s restroom because it endangers women and children. Period. All American men must be very, very ashamed of their mentally-ill homeland. Why are you guys just watching the nation’s collapse in silence? Poor your fathers.

        • Ronald Carter

          That is not the fault of transgendered people, Grace. It is unrelated.

          • gogo0

            it doesn’t need to be related, Grace’s stated argument is “Whatever”.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            That’s right. Man must not enter woman’s restroom. The end of the matter.

          • Jess F.

            If men of any sort are that dangerous they shouldn’t be allowed anywhere.

          • gogo0

            why are you so focused on men in women’s bathrooms? do you not care about little boys being sexually assaulted by men, or girls being assaulted by women, or is that just not as important?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There wouldn’t be an objection if Obama established girls’ washroom, boys’ washroom, women’s washroom, men’s washroom, wheelchair person’s washroom, and one more washroom for whomever. Obama endangers women and children by letting men enter women’s washroom freely, as if to say today’s American problems are not many enough. What has gotten USA? Why do you American men abandon the idea of protecting women and children against the mentally ill government of yours? Why do you guys always contemplate on exploiting women and children? Get some Christianity for sanity. Man up, please.

          • gogo0

            government of mine? i didn’t vote for Obama, and it was a poor thing to assume that i did because of my pro-equality views.

            again, you (and others, to be fair) marginalize male victims of sex abuse because it is not divisive enough to push your argument.

            regarding women, i will repeat the oft-ignored fact that they are as at-risk now as they were before any bathroom laws. so far the only ‘transgenders’ that have endangered women post-bathroom laws were conservatives faking it to fabricate evidence for their admittedly baseless cause.

            if you could demonstrate how things have actually become more dangerous, then you would have a point. but you and others haven’t, and so you are just appealing to emotion (save those poor women and children [and ONLY them!!]) to fear-monger.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Women and girls are still the majority of the victims of crimes committed by men, although stupid behavior and indecent outfit can be partially blamed. Don’t lose the larger picture. Post-christian West has started questioning everything known to be a common sense, and it doesn’t make sense. Does USA desire to have more crimes for the future or something? You guys really stop scorning noble things such conservatives and start manning up. What you men need is proper manhood.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            although occasionally women’s stupid behavior and indecent outfit can be partially blamed.

            So it’s the womans fault when she gets raped? Right!

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Not for most of the time. Women must pay attention for safety and self-defense; it’s a universal common sense. Wayward-behaving women make men desire depravity and together they endanger children who are truly defenseless. The madness must stop.

          • Bob Johnson

            Minnesota has had this law on the books for 20 years and have not had a problem. Cambridge Massachusetts has had this law for 19 years police superintendent, “No Incidents”.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. USA is sinking into the deep sea because of its Sodomic inclinations; you are not just seeing it. The nation drags other nations with it, though everyone has rights to life. So sad.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There are more pretenders out of false education and criminal motives than genuinely confused people. False education or criminal purpose or confusion, all wrongdoings need correction by the truth, especially God’s eternal truth. Endorsing falsehood using humanism increases mental illness. In any case, shame on USA to endanger women and children to support per-ver-sion this way.

    • Peter Leh

      he was a heterosexual predator… not transgendered.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Enabling men to enter women’s restroom only increases crimes and abuses. Your president must be thinking the number of crimes in USA are not many enough.

        • Peter Leh

          the was no enabling. there is no trans law in chicago to enable this criminal to go into the women’s restroom.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Restrooms and washrooms are for privacy. Men must not enter into women’s washroom. This news is just another proof.

          • Peter Leh

            “Men must not enter into women’s washroom. This news is just another proof.”

            this news is proof the criminals will continue to break the law and assault people.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You men must stop neglecting women and children. Live to protect them as your fathers did, please. Women and children are protected groups, too. Why place them in danger knowingly?

          • Peter Leh

            again.. did you NOTICE this man assaulted a child with no trans law in place?

  • ISA41:10

    Liberal logic;
    We should make it harder for criminals to get guns even to prevent one tragedy.
    But let’s not make it harder for perverts to use women’s bathroom even to prevent one rape.

    • Ronald Carter

      There is no known case of a transgendered person assaulting anyone in a public bathroom. If this is about sexual attraction, explain why gay men never assault straight men in public bathrooms, and lesbians in women’s washrooms.

      • Nidalap

        Never? That’s a mighty all-encompassing term! You know of a certainty that this NEVER happens, hmm? 🙂

        • Gal5:22-23

          even if it had it would just show that if gay and straight men can use the same bathroom why can’t trans-men too?

          • Nidalap

            ‘Cause they’re WOMEN, duh! (^_^)

          • Gal5:22-23

            So you are saying it’s not about attraction at all but rather some other quality?

            At least the fear mongering aspect goes away.

            (and of course trans-women aren’t men)

          • Nidalap

            Yes. The society prefers that restrooms and locker rooms have the two genders be separate.

            (Their genes, and in Bruce Jenner’s case, their jeans disagree!) 🙂

          • Gal5:22-23

            I agree but I think that’s because you are using the term ‘gender’ erroneously.

          • Nidalap

            It’s the original, cis-usage of the term! ::nods sagely:: (^_^)

          • Gal5:22-23

            No, male≠masculine and female≠feminine for my life span and my pretty close to dead. Sex and gender are two different things and either can be associated with either.

          • Amos Moses

            Delusional…………….

          • Amos Moses

            Certainly you are ………………..

        • Ronald Carter

          Well, you’re entirely welcome to cite an example. Knowing your alarmist right-wing media, I’m sure they’d be all over a story like that and be spreading it with Henny Penny the-sky-is-falling furor and making it out to be an epidemic. Haven’t seen signs of that however.

          • Gal5:22-23

            it is the elephant in the room.

          • Nidalap

            You’re the one that made the assertion of absolute never! Human nature itself argues against THAT probability! 🙂

          • acontraryview

            In what way would human nature argue against the probability of a man who identifies as a woman assaulting a woman in a bathroom?

            if you want to argue probabilities – it is MUCH more likely that a transgender who identifies as a man would be assaulted in a men’s room; much greater probability that a man who identifies and dresses as a woman would be assaulted in a men’s room, and a much greater probability that a gay man would be assaulted by straight men in a men’s bathroom.

          • Nidalap

            Why does the probability increase? Does dressing in opposite-sex related clothing automatically make one less prone to violence? If so, how? 🙂

          • acontraryview

            I’ll ask again: In what way would human nature argue against the probability of a man who identifies as a woman assaulting a woman in a bathroom?

          • Nidalap

            Are you sure you put that question exactly the way you wanted it? 🙂

            Human nature argues against the probability of those kinds of attacks NEVER happening.

          • acontraryview

            Quite sure.

            I’ll ask again: In what way would human nature argue against the probability of a man who identifies as a woman assaulting a woman in a bathroom?

          • Nidalap

            Repeat last post ad infinitum. 🙂

          • Ronald Carter

            “So far”, then. Better?

          • Nidalap

            Good try! 🙂

        • Peter Leh

          this guy was a heterosexual predator.

    • Peter Leh

      it is just as easy today for perverts to break the law as anytime in the past.

      as we conservative say” laws don’t matter to the criminals”

  • Coach

    This makes me want to vomit and have great frustration with those who have paved the way for such evil, but in the midst of great evil, I’m reminded of Acts 23 Then Paul, looking earnestly at the council, said, “Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.” 2 And the high priest Ananias commanded those who stood by him to strike him on the mouth. 3 Then Paul said to him, “God will strike you, you whitewashed wall! For you sit to judge me according to the law, and do you command me to be struck contrary to the law?”

    4 And those who stood by said, “Do you revile God’s high priest?
    5 Then Paul said, “I did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written, ‘You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people.

    Paul humbled himself in looking to Christ and was able to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ.

  • SFBruce

    There are no reports that Hartstirn was dressed as a woman, nor that he claims to be a trans woman. Aggravated kidnapping, aggravated battery of a child and aggravated assault of a peace officer, the charges brought against Hartstirn, are all still against the law in Chicago.

    To suggest that this is somehow the result of trans women using women’s restrooms is completely without foundation.

    • Ronald Carter

      I think the implication here is that it happened because Chicago is pushing for allowing the use of the desired restrooms for transgendered people. Or something. I am not certain if we are supposed to infer that what happened to the girl is the fault of the city as a whole, but it seems that way. Just shaking my head at the leap of logic being made.

  • acontraryview

    “Eight-Year-Old Girl Choked in Restroom by Man in City Pushing ‘Transgender’ Access Rights”

    And those two things would related, how?

    • Amos Moses

      You really need to change your moniker ……….. as there is absolutely NOTHING “contrary” in any of your views…………. they are all of the flesh and of the world ……. praying the scales are removed from your eyes……. and your ears are unstopped ……………

      • acontraryview

        So you can’t say how those two things are related. Got it. Thanks.

        I’ll also say a prayer for you that the scales are removed from your eyes and your ears are unstopped.

        • Amos Moses

          No, just that explaining it to you would be a waste of time ……… GOT IT?

          • Peter Leh

            you mean the heterosexual predator was WAITING for the trans law to go into effect before he could assault a little girl?

            I don;t think criminals do that, Amos

          • Bob Johnson

            Well since Chicago is only contemplating the law and Cambridge Massachusetts has had the law on the books for 19 years with “no Incidents,” it seems like the best thing to do is get that trans friendly law passed quickly.

          • Peter Leh

            lol

          • Amos Moses

            “you mean the heterosexual predator was WAITING for the trans law to go into effect before he could assault a little girl?”

            No,,,, the predators see that they could now enter the womans bathroom and not be immediately pounced on as a predator ……….. and so they now do ………. you see, mice see a hole in a wall …. and they could just chew through the wall ……….. but if the hole is there …… they will run to the hole in the defense ……………… and ALL PREDATORS DO …………

            So when you opened the door to allow males to just enter …… UNCHALLENGED ………… you opened the doors to predators ………………….. and if they are challenged ……….. before they commit their acts ………. they can just say ……… “i identify as (fill in the blank)” and then just walk away …………………. and this is the door that has been opened ……………… to coddle mentally ill persons who have body dysmorphia …….

          • Peter Leh

            Still blaming the trans for this predator committing crimes, eh?

            did you note there is no trans law in chicago… the predator did not even think about whether he could go into the woman’s restroom under the guise of being a trans

            the criminal just does it

          • Amos Moses

            LEhhhhhhhhhhhhh… this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….

            Did you get it this time …………………………….. let me repeat it ……..

            this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….this has NOTHING TO DO WITH TRANNYS………………….

          • Peter Leh

            ok i believe you.

            your quote seemed to suggest otherwise:

            “and this is the door that has been opened ……………… to coddle mentally ill persons who have body dysmorphia …….”

            and you did take note there is no trans law to blame for this predator, right?

  • Truthhurts24

    How long will the American people stay sleep to the corruption in government. Their NWO agenda is coming into full effect each day.

    • Nidalap

      Well, the world WILL fall under the rule of a single government. It’s in the Book.
      Don’t really see much, if anything, about America in the last pages either…

      • Truthhurts24

        America is Mystery Babylon

        • Nidalap

          I’ve had that exact thought myself! 🙂

  • Diaris

    Homosexuals associate restrooms with sex. All these new laws are intended to force the rest of us down to their gutter level, making sure that normal decent human beings will never enter a public restroom again without thinking about sex.

    • Bob Johnson

      Transgender anti-discrimination laws in public accommodation are not new.
      Colorado – 2008
      Connecticut – 2011
      Hawaii – 2006
      Iowa – 2007
      Maine – 2005
      Cambridge Massachusetts – 1997
      Minnesota – 1993
      Nevada – 2011
      New Mexico – 2003
      Oregon – 2007
      Rhode Island – 2001
      Vermont – 2007

      (source MediaMatters)

      • Gal 5:22-23

        So what?

      • Nia Rice

        Did those laws give pedophiles and predators of both sexual orientations easy access to assault, molest, rape, and kill innocent women and children?

    • Elie Challita

      Actually, it’s only conservatives that associate bathrooms with gay sex (considering the number of homophobes who get caught blowing dudes in stalls…). The actual gay community, i.e. the people who aren’t self-loathing boomerang bigots hiding in the closet, have long since graduated to using Grindr.

      • Carlo

        Sounds like you know the gutter real well.

        • Elie Challita

          Nah, I just pass by it occasionally to look at the all the good Christians diddling underaged children or blowing meth off a male hooker’s abs.

          • muzjlk

            Your brain is polluted. You people never meet anyone decent, what a sad way to live, like animals that do nothing but eat and have sex. Humans are made for better things.

      • JeffreyRo55

        Oh, that “community” that keeps killing its members with AIDS. Nice “community” there, people who kill each other and feel no guilt.

        • Elie Challita

          I know that you’re just trolling, but you would be well advised to never repeat that in front of a member of the gay community, especially not the older members who remember when AIDS first hit the US.

          I live in San Francisco, and many people here remember just how tragic and devastating that epidemic was, and how many friends and lovers they lost. One of my old neighbors lost his partner then, and he still looks and talks about him in the same way that my grandfather talked about his wife, years after losing her to cancer.

          If you have a single shred of decency, I highly recommend that you never bring up that subject so flippantly.

          • Cyber_Donkey

            Was? Is.

          • Elie Challita

            True, it’s still raging. But at least today there is much more awareness of it, how to prevent it, and how to live with it if you get it. I think it’s more comparable to heart disease or cancer today, than to the faceless, nameless killer that it was when it first appeared.

          • Diaris

            Nope, you’re still spreading incurable diseases, thousands of new infections every year. A heterosexual male is more likely to be struck by lightning than to get AIDS. These are your diseases.

            And you want the rest of us to tell you how wonderful gays are.
            Sorry, I don’t socialize with killers.

          • Diaris

            Here I am, bringing it up again, and definitely not afraid of you. No one is afraid of a homosexual.

            Homosexual men have killed each other with AIDS for 50 years.
            FACT.

            Never argue with FACTS, you will lose.
            Gay men perpetrated a holocaust on yourselves. You don’t even love each other. People who infect others with incurable diseases are hate-filled and evil.

            Got lots of data from the CDC and other sources. You want to argue with them?

            Hating Christians is a distraction from your real problem: gay men kill gay men. You don’t even feel guilt about it. Nice people don’t act that way.

          • Gal5:22-23

            Facts? That the majority of gay men don’t have HIV? Always makes me shake my head when you see blatant stereotyping on a Christianish blog – isn’t the story of the Samaritan considered essential reading?

          • Elie Challita

            It wasn’t a threat. I was simply asking you to not be a poisonous cunt, but I guess I set the bar too high for you.

            Do you think that everyone who died from syphilis before we discovered antibiotic treatments for it were unabashedly evil?

            The majority of people with AIDS are straight, believe it or not. But I guess that they don’t matter to you, given that most of them are black and from poor African countries.

            The transmission rate is about the same for unprotected sex. The main difference is that condoms are more likely to tear during anal sex, and that more gay men forego condoms than straight men (proportionally, of course) because of a lack of sex ed and the assumption that pregnancy is the only consequence of sex anyway.

            Yeah, there might be some psychopaths who willingly infect others with AIDs. For the majority of gay men, however, getting infected is a terrifying prospect, and most who are infected will take PreP or undergo other treatments to prevent themselves from passing in it on. Some even go fully celibate. The majority of infections happen in the period where a man is infected but doesn’t know it yet, where he is most likely to infect others because he doesn’t know he’s sick.

            PS: I’m actually straight, I just happen to have a sense of empathy, something that you were apparently not issued at birth. Or was it amputated when you joined your cult?

          • muzjlk

            You people sure to have lots of time on your hands, nothing to do but bash Christians.

            So that proves you are bored and unhappy.

            Homosexuals’ lives are unhealthy.

          • Peter Leh

            “Homosexuals’ lives are unhealthy.”

            yep there is no sexuality transmitted disease in the hetero community. none at all.

            no gluttony. heart disease, diabetes, no molesters, no sexual predators, no abusers,

            it is only in “their” camp.

            naw… we are all the same. 🙂

    • Peter Leh

      this guy was not a homosexual but a predator.

      a heterosexual predator

      • Nia Rice

        True, but if the LGBT community weren’t pushing for these laws, then the predators of both sexual orientations wouldn’t have the easy access they do now to prey upon and harm innocent women and children. The longer these laws are in place, more and more women and children are going to be assaulted, raped, and killed. These laws are supposed to be in the name of equal rights, but what about the rights of the women and children to be able to use a public bathroom without fearing for their safety?

        • Peter Leh

          “These laws are supposed to be in the name of equal rights, but what
          about the rights of the women and children to be able to use a public
          bathroom without fearing for their safety?”

          those laws are still in place. notice this perp went to jail. he also committed the crime in a state were there is no trans law. SO you can;t say these assaults are going up because of trans laws… at least not in the state of Illinois.

          “wouldn’t have the easy access they do now to prey upon and harm innocent women and children.”

          did you notice how easy it was for this guy to walk into a woman’s restroom and choke a child? Again with no trans law to assist him?

          btw i am sensitive to the inequity women have to bear fearing for their safety compared to a man. I am saying this story is nothing new and the trans law has nothing to do with this criminal

          for diaris to equate restroom crimes with only homosexuals as a heterosexual predator is the subject is beyond laughable. the homosexual or trans or hetero is not the problem… criminals are

    • properly schooled

      pretty sure they associate going to the bathroom with “going to the bathroom”….

    • maddaddyssa

      This was one of the reasons why the public restrooms in the NYC subway system were shut down for many years. Besides being just about the most vulnerable places in the city to get mugged, or worse many people. gay straight, switch hitters, etc were using them for places to hook up, oftentimes times with deadly results. Ask any NYMTA transit cop.

  • Amos Moses

    From Brietbart …………….

    Chicago Public Schools are telling employees – and even students – that they will be punished if they don’t use government-directed language when debating or talking about sex and gender.

    The new rules have gone all-in to push the “gender identity” ideology and transgender agenda by demanding that everyone in the school system must use the scientifically incorrect pronouns and made-up names preferred by a tiny minority of people who say they prefer to be treated as members of the opposite sex.

    “The guidelines released today will help ensure every student and adult in the CPS family can participate in an environment of complete tolerance and respect,” CPS Chief Education Officer Dr. Janice K. Jackson said in a press release.

    Official say the new rules are needed to comply with federal Title IX laws craft to prevent sex discrimination. That’s the same claim made by President Barack Obama with his recent decree that all schools in America be forced to provide pro-transgender bathroom and locker room facilities or face the removal of federal education dollars.

    Under these new guidelines, students and CPS employees must turn informer and are required to make sure “any incident of discrimination, harassment, or violence is given immediate attention, including investigating the incident and taking appropriate corrective action.”

    • The Last Trump

      It’s like something out of a movie…
      A horror movie.
      The audacity of these people to think that they can get away with their communist agenda.
      They actually believe that they should, and can, ban words and control speech!
      Sadly, the way Americans are just rolling over though, it looks like they can. 🙁
      Dark time in America folks. Danger ahead if you dare continue to walk “the path”.
      Seek ye The Good Shepherd. No matter the cost. And let the chips fall where they may.
      Thanks for the updates Amos! 🙂

      • Ronald Carter

        What communist agenda? This story has nothing to do with the transgendered, why do you keep trying to crowbar it in? There is no movement that is pushing for the choking of 8-year old girls going in anywhere. That man would have followed the little girl in there regardless of what rules were in place. Try to stay focused.

  • Amos Moses

    Famous LGBT Activist Reveals The Scary, Real Goal Of The Bathroom Battle (And It’s Not Bathrooms…It’s Way Worse)

    What you may have been suspecting has been confirmed. LGBT activists’ end goal is not ruling over the bathroom. It’s obliterating the family. Riki Wilchins, a famous transsexual who recently wrote a piece in the gay publication The Advocate, revealed that many conservatives and even LGBT activists are missing the forest for the trees.

    Titled, “We’ll Win the Bathroom Battle When the Binary Burns,” Wilchins says the real goal is to kill the notion of male and female altogether. The “binary” refers to gender distinction, and getting rid of the “heterobinary structure” is the goal. Wilchins writes that the fact that we are arguing over male and female facilities is proof that we still have far to go–that there should be no gender distinctions in general.

    In fact, Wilchins points to an emerging group of people who don’t want to affiliate as any gender. Life Site News explains, “’Non-binary’ people don’t identify as male or female and they often want to be referred to as ‘they’ or ‘hir’ or ‘zer.’ So the fact that there are even intimate facilities that reflect the “binary” truth about gender should change, Wilchins wrote.”

    • The Last Trump

      Just incredible.
      WAKE UP America.

      • Elie Challita

        We are, Trumpy. Now you get the pleasure of knowing that your breed of ignorance is dying out 🙂

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Since you provide no citation, we have no way of testing the veracity of this statement. Why should I believe it’s true?

      • Amos Moses

        So google the headline ………………… or don’t ………….. i do not care ……………

        • Elie Challita

          I did google it. The only info that yielded was a bunch of kooks, just like yourself, linking to an article with completely fabricated assumptions.
          Turns out it’s really easy to make up stuff and pretend that it was said by people you don’t like 🙂

          • Amos Moses

            So you spend your days writting to kooks …………. but i guess it takes one to know one …….

          • Elie Challita

            Meh, you’re fun to mess with. Although I’m starting to gravitate more towards pity.

          • Amos Moses

            BTW, this is one of your “kooks”….

            We’ll Win the Bathroom Battle When the Binary Burns

            advocate. Remove this space. com/commentary/2016/4/29/well-win-bathroom-battle-when-binary-burns

            There has been a lot written lately about trans people in bathrooms (mea culpa), mostly courtesy of the right wing’s continued obsession with a toxic amalgam of biological essentialism, sexual panic over adolescent innocence, and the just-won’t-die meme of genderqueers as potential predators.

            Much of the debate has focused on stories like that of 16-year-old trans man Gavin Grimm, who is suing the Gloucester County, Va., school board, and others who are seeking access to the bathroom that matches their gender identity.

            The American Civil Liberties Union, the Department of Education, the Human Rights Campaign, and others are rightfully lining up to support such students in gaining access to the appropriate (binary) boys or girls room.

          • Elie Challita

            Yes, I’m well aware of the case being made for a non-binary gender paradigm. Probably more than you, considering that I actually engage people on the subject, rather than clutching my pearls and bemoaning the death of white, christian America.

            I don’t see your point though. Some people are arguing that a binary view of gender is wrong, and that there are, in fact other identities. So what is it to you?

          • Amos Moses

            ” Probably more than you, considering that I actually engage people on the subject, rather than clutching my pearls and bemoaning the death of white, christian America.”

            Its death was inevitable, and prophesied………. so no clutching ……… you have fun with what takes its place …………….

            “Some people are arguing that a binary view of gender is wrong, and that there are, in fact other identities.”

            Some delusional people are of that opinion ………… and you agree with them …….. color me NOT surprised ………….

          • Elie Challita

            Oh yeah, I fully intend to enjoy what comes next. Thank you for your kind wishes.
            I didn’t say I agreed. I don’t really have a position on the matter, and I don’t think I’ll make up my mind on it any time soon, because it’s frankly not that important to me.

            I honestly wouldn’t have cared that much about the bathroom laws either until you lot made a stink of it, because I know that a lot of passable trans people have been using the bathroom of their choice for years anyway, with none the wiser, and not a single rape to their name.

          • Amos Moses

            The ones making the “stink” …………. are those trying to alter the good order of society …….. not the ones trying to defend it ………………. so your confusion on it ………. confuses me ………..

            BTW, what follows it will probably be Sharia law ………… and homosexuals learning to fly off the tops of buildings ……. but it is interesting that you look forward to that ………

          • Elie Challita

            Yes, the natural conclusion of a secular and equalitarian society is the imposition of Islamic fundamentalism. Do you even bother to make sense sometimes, Amos? Do words and sentences even have meaning for you?

          • Amos Moses

            The “love wins” president is making the egress of muslims…… fundamental or otherwise …. it makes no difference ………. easier everyday …….. they do not want “democracy” ………. they want Sharia …………. but fine ……. have it your way ……… what will replace it …… in your view …………..

          • Elie Challita

            Sure, sure. Better hide back under that bed while polishing your muskets, gramps. The dirty brown people are coming for you.

          • Amos Moses

            Watch out for the (non) flying homosexuals coming your way…….. but yeah ……… does not affect your life ……….. so …..eh ……..

          • Amos Moses

            and BTW……….. not all muslims are “dirty and brown” ……….. many are blonde and have blue eyes …….. so ………. nice racist remark on your part ………….

          • Elie Challita

            I’m Arab, dummy. I’m well aware that most of your ilk categorize anyone who looks like me as Muslim, while giving anyone who looks caucasian a pass up until you realize that they’re Muslim.

          • Amos Moses

            So WHAT?……………………

          • Elie Challita

            So who do you think that Trump’s anti-Islam immigration policies will target, considering that it’s impossible to ascertain by appearance alone whether someone is Muslim or not?

          • Amos Moses

            “considering that it’s impossible to ascertain by appearance alone whether someone is Muslim or not?”

            So when Obama lets them in ………… unrestricted for the most part ……….. does that apply also …………. that you cant tell which rattle snake is going to bite …………… but we should just do it anyway ……….. because ………………….. what ………………. and HOW DO YOU VET THAT ……..

          • Elie Challita

            “unrestricted for the most part”. What do you know of our immigration process?

          • Amos Moses

            What immigration process ………………… there is none …….

          • Elie Challita

            I know you won’t believe me on this point either, but I’m an immigrant. I can here from Lebanon, 3 years ago. I can personally attest to just how thorough of a background check I had to pass, as well as how long and difficult it is to obtain a work visa, let alone a green card or citizenship.

            but I’m sure that you, in your infinite wisdom, know better. Which part of the Bible was it that taught you all about the US’ immigration system again?

          • Amos Moses

            That was then ………. this is now ……………… INS has a basic “catch and release policy ……… so whatever happened to you ………… not relevant …………

          • Slidellman4life

            Amos, back away from Elie. For one thing, he’s trolling you. For another, he’s just another bargain basement low-grade moron whose Utopia is morally void.

            Thing is, and this is what makes him and others like him such morons is their unwillingness to admit to themselves and others of the consequences when their Utopia is achieved. They read about Nazi Germany and the former USSR, they look at Chicago and California, and they promptly toss it all aside.

            Don’t engage Elie any further. He’ll just make your head hurt.

          • Amos Moses

            “I’m well aware that most of your ilk categorize anyone who looks like me as Muslim, ”

            You have no idea whatsoever what i am or what i look like nor how i would view you ………. even IF you are telling the truth about who and what you are ……….. and i doubt that you are ….. Arab, that is …………. your avatar not withstanding……….. i do not care who you are or what you do or what you think of me ………….. it is not relevant …………

          • Elie Challita

            What avatar? That’s a picture of me in my old office. Or did you expect me to pose in an Aladdin costume, or to look like Osama Bin Laden’s younger cousin? Who’s the racist here, Amos?

          • Amos Moses

            Sure ………… and i can verify this …………….. how ……………. right …….. i can’t ………… and i do not believe you …………….. but more importantly …………. i do not care ….

            “Who’s the racist here, Amos?”

            Still you …………………

          • Elie Challita

            As you wish. I’ll make sure that my next picture includes a flying carpet or a camel, for your convenience.

          • Amos Moses

            and it will still tell me nothing about you …………… but again ……….. more importantly …..

            I DO NOT CARE……………………… it does not change the truth in IOTA………………

          • Amos Moses

            And your comments were STILL racist…………

  • Shawn Smith

    People go to the washroom to have a shit, not to have their groin inspected. This incident has nothing to do with transgenders.

    • Carlo

      You look like someone who would go there to socialize.

      • Shawn Smith

        The story has nothing to do with me, so why comment on me? The story has to do with a wicked person committing a crime. The story has nothing to do with transgender issues in the least.

  • MattFCharlestonSC

    Glad the little girl is okay. This man isn’t transgendered — why is this site making it sound like this is because of bathroom policy? Do all of you really think this nut job was going to stay out of the women’s room if the law were different?

  • Elie Challita

    Let me get this straight: A white, straight, cisgendered male who has nothing to do with trans activism assaults a little girl in the middle of a mall, and you’re blaming this on the LGBTQ rights movement because the city that this incident happened in recently passed an equal rights ordinance?

    Going by that logic, can I sure the governor of Texas for every single gun-related death that happened in his state?

  • Michael

    If any of this story came from Breitbart ( an online and very unreliable news source) then it is most likely not current, and happened before the bathroom transgender laws started up. 99.9% of their stories are based on partial facts, meaning the criminals did do it, but a year ago or more. Then they claim its this year, right after the law was passed. Please do some fact checking. This one might be the same as the others.

    Make no mistake, I’m against the transgender laws, they support abominations at the cost of human decency, but posting false stories will help their cause, not hurt it.

  • Peter Leh

    “…by Man in City Pushing ‘Transgender’ Access Rights”

    Heather Clark i dont think the predator gave a darn if the city was pushing transgender rights

  • jjgrndisland

    By definition, trannies are mentally ill. All are potentially dangerous. Their constant threats of suicide are typical of people who can quickly turn violent against others.

    • Gal5:22-23

      So use of derogatory terms like ‘trannies’ is ok here? On a Christian website?

      • jjgrndisland

        Anyone forcing you to read my posts?
        Plenty of gay blogs out there to keep you amused. Heaven forbid you encounter anyone who isn’t like you.

        • Gal5:22-23

          Ah a troll question and an ad hominem. No its just that using derogatory language like that is against the TOS and enforcement of the TOS regarding such things needs clarification since some derogatory terms are allowed to stay and others aren’t.

          And don’t be afraid to go to other blogs yourself.

          • Ken M

            Tranny
            Tranny
            Tranny

            Is your head exploding, miss?

          • Gal5:22-23

            Only at someone doing that knowing they will be judged for it before the Throne. And still wondering what the moderators will do about it.

          • Ken M

            A homosexual
            acting as Judge of what is right.

            Now that’s funny.

            Cite the chapter and verse where using the word “tranny” condemns me to hell.

            Take your time.

          • Gal5:22-23

            A Christian that doesn’t know about kindness, generosity, compassion and mercy.

            Now that’s funny.

            Yell ‘Raca’ at people as much as you desire, we all know what it leads to.

          • Ken M

            I never killed anyone with AIDS, I’m way ahead of you and your girlfriends.

          • Gal5:22-23

            You realize that statement makes no sense, right?

          • Gal5:22-23

            No, Paul says that adultery, with men or women, can be a barrier. And in the same thought he says abusive people will not be entering heaven either – people with the word ‘Tranny’ on their lips I would expect.

      • Amos Moses

        Yeah ………………… how is it “derogatory” ………….. when the term transsexual is derogatory …………….. it is to me ……… it is a lie …………… so how can a lie have a “derogatory” connotation ……….

        • Gal 5:22-23

          Revilers, people who use disparaging terms for others, aren’t getting into heaven according to Paul. The ’T’ word, the ‘F’ word, the ’N’ word will all be instant barriers to heaven if they aren’t repented.

          • Amos Moses

            Really …………… so when Christ said to the scribes and Pharisees ….. and called them ….. “hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres” …………. almost LITERALLY calling them “WHITE TRASH” ……………….. what …………… you make some very bold statements about things you seem to know little about ……

            Matthew
            12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
            12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
            12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
            12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
            12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
            12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

            Matthew
            23:19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
            23:20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
            23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
            23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
            23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
            23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
            23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
            23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
            23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.
            23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
            23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
            23:30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
            23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
            23:32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
            23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
            23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
            23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
            23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
            23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chicken under her wings, and ye would not!
            23:38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
            23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Massive cut and paste – saying someone is a hypocrite is very different than calling a transgender person a derogatory name. The Spirit should guide you to realize that.

          • Amos Moses

            “Massive cut and paste ”

            SO What …………………………….

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Largely irrelevant. Scripture is a gate to the Spirit and if a person is with the Spirit they can say what they need to in their own words.

          • Amos Moses

            And why would i substitute my words for Gods most PERFECT description ………… i would not ………….

    • Bob Johnson

      It is a shame the medical community doesn’t agree with you.

      • Gal5:22-23

        Ironically Paranoid Personality Disorder DSM-5 301.0 is what his comment brings to mind.

        • Amos Moses

          Paraniod ……… just because you imagine people are coming to harm you ………. Does not mean people are not coming to harm you ………. and people are being harmed ……… so much for “love wins”……..

          And the DSM wanted to “normalize” pedophilia not long ago ……… but i guess you are good with that when it happens ……

          • Gal 5:22-23

            I see you realize that’s not true by putting “normalize” in quotes as if that insulates someone from false witness and God’s judgement.

          • Amos Moses

            APA to correct manual: Pedophilia is not a ‘sexual orientation …
            Oct 31, 2013 … According to the DSM-5, pedophilia “refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas …

            How is that NOT “normalizing” ………… by calling it a “preference” ……. like homosexuality was changed to a “preference”………………. and “normalized” ……. and it is not ………… it is a lie …………

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Right because it isn’t a orientation towards a sex but to an age. Its age orientation, not sexual orientation, they misspoke and corrected themselves. And a sexual preference is a neutral term for things ranging from spousal intercourse to rape and anything else.

            This is about deciding if something is a mental disorder or not, not if its legal or not. Are you really advocating that a criminal pedophile should be treated as a mental patient more than a criminal? From your previous notes I would guess not but please tell me which one you think it is…

          • Amos Moses

            And they were ready to publish it …………. so when they do ………. you are good with it?

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Good with what? Them making a mistake? Everyone makes mistakes – they fixed it. Age is not sex, a preference to an age is not a sexual orientation. Same as besitality isn’t a sexual orientation, or any other paraphilia. Sexual orientation is an orientation towards a sex, anything else isn’t that.

          • Amos Moses

            “Sexual orientation is an orientation towards a sex, anything else isn’t that.”

            Mistake …….. (mistake) ………. yeah …….. sure ……… and pedophiles …….. are not oriented to sex ………. with children ………… yeah ……….. and you still have not answered the question ………….. you are good with that when it happens? With whatever nonsense the DSM manages to publish …….. its all good? …………..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            “that”? What is ‘that’?

          • Amos Moses

            i did not write the word “that” ……. You wrote “that”………… You tell me ……………..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Please Amos focus you said:

            you are good with that when it happens?

            behind a incoherent list of words and runaway punctuation.

            Again, what that are you asking about?

          • Amos Moses

            please…… you try and focus and follow the conversation …….

            “And they were ready to publish it …………. so when they do ………. you are good with it? ”

            “That” ……… is it being published in the DSM and making pedophilia “O-Tay”……. do you get it now …………. and you still have not answered the question ……….. if it is in the DSM ……… THEN WHAT ……… Is it “O-Tay”……..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            You thought that even if the misquote were published it would make pdophilia ‘O-Tay’ (is that a regional variant of okay, I’m to familiar with?)

            Of course not because being listed as a sexual orientation or a sexual interest doesn’t make anything okay or not okay, its just a classification for categorization.

            That is what the DSM is trying to do, get out of the historical position of being pointed to as the reason something is considered criminal or not.

            Just because something isn’t a disease doesn’t mean its not criminal. Its still illegal to eat a person’s living brain even if the person doing so need them to survive as a totally natural part of their biology (shout out to all the zombies out there).

            My suggestion is quit looking for secular psychological rationalizations for religious faith, the whole point of faith it is without rational justification.

          • Amos Moses

            “You thought that even if the misquote”

            It was not a misquote ……… and you were the one bringing up the DSM as if it had any authority …….. but if i am wrong ……… mea culpa ….

          • Gal 5:22-23

            About pedophilia? No, someone said transgender people were mentally ill and they aren’t because of that according to the DSM, though the commenter’s comments could be indicative of a diagnosis.

          • Amos Moses

            Body Dysmorphia………… from which they suffer ……….. is a mental illness…….

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Not according to the doctors and scientists who study this, who you hopefully understand I take more stock of than you.

          • Amos Moses

            According to the Mayo Clinic it is ………………. so i do not know what you think you are talking about ………

          • Gal 5:22-23

            The ‘Mayo Clinic’ is a building. why are you talking about?

          • Amos Moses

            LOL! ……… Yeah …………. just an empty building ………… no there ………. no one home ……. no lights …………… do read what you write before you post …………..

          • Amos Moses

            Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) | Anxiety and Depression …
            But people who have body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) think about their real or perceived flaws for hours each day. They can’t control their negative thoughts …

            Body dysmorphic disorder – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
            Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), also known as body dysmorphia or dysmorphic syndrome, but originally termed dysmorphophobia, is a mental disorder …

            Overview – Body dysmorphic disorder – Mayo Clinic
            Apr 28, 2016 … Body dysmorphic disorder is a mental disorder in which you can’t stop thinking about one or more perceived defects or flaws in your …

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Which isn’t transgenderism – its people who have too many nose jobs, things like that. Micheal Jackson had body dysmorphic disorder.

          • Amos Moses

            It is transgenders, and OCD, and bulimia, and anorexia, and any other disorder where a person looks in the mirror and does not see reality……………….

            “Micheal Jackson had body dysmorphic disorder.”

            Yep ……………………………

          • Amos Moses

            “false witness and God’s judgement.”

            ……and what do you think you know of either of those things because your writings tend to indicate ……… you don’t …………..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            Actually I know quite a bit about both that’s why I can recognize a ‘half-truth’ when I see it, which for a Christian is this same as a lie.

          • Amos Moses

            You cannot even recognize that much ………… 1/2 is a generous estimation ……..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            So you are admitting it was false witness? That’s a first step.

          • Amos Moses

            Yeah ………. there is no push to “normalize” it …………

            It all began in September last year with the article “I’m a pedophile, but not a monster,” which featured self-identified pedophile Todd Nickerson of the website “Virtuous Pedophiles” classify his sexual disorder as a “sexual identity” that needs to be met with some kind of compassion. Though neither Nickerson nor Salon advocates that pedophiles should be allowed to act on their urges, they do feel they should be allowed to be open about their identities without facing repercussions or be ostracized, as if people would be wrong to shield their children from ever being in their presence.

            In a new video released Tuesday, Salon featured Nickerson talking openly about the nature of his sexual disorder, which he classifies as an orientation, and how he manages to resist the urge to molest children.

            Yeah……….. none at all ……..

          • Gal 5:22-23

            And that guy isn’t the DSM writers, your deflection is duly noted.

          • Amos Moses

            Oh, i already gave you the DSM story ………. do i need to do it again ………….

  • Scatamooch

    The Ignorance Here Is Astounding! First Off, The Guy Was Not Transgender… He Wasn’t Even Gay… He Was A Mentally Deranged Pedophile… Most Likely, A Conservative Bible Thumper… Conservatives Have a Thing Pointing Fingures In All The Wrong Directions.

    • Gal 5:22-23

      “ignorance” = “things I don’t wish to hear.”

      • Gal5:22-23

        Ah seems I have a ‘fan’. How ya doing disqus_vzhFQ4Cn90?

    • Amos Moses

      You are right……… he was not …………. just used a “loophole” to harm someone …….. a loophole you could DRIVE A MACK TRUCK THROUGH……………..

  • properly schooled

    Now that we’ve made a big deal about this, all the idiots that didn’t catch on before will now.

    • Amos Moses

      We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid. – Ben Franklin

  • http://acecakenews.com The Sinister Porpoise (Lara)

    Check the original report, this man was not transgender or homoosexual.

    • Amos Moses

      MESQUITE (CBSDFW.COM) – A Forney woman says a Ross department store in Mesquite let a man into the women’s dressing room Monday.

      “I was in the dressing room, when we heard a man’s voice,” said Lisa Stickles, who says she quickly told a manager.

      “She went inside the dressing room, came right back out and called me to the side and told me… he was representing himself as a woman today,” Stickles said.

      A customer service representative with Ross would not comment on the alleged incident but said they do not discriminate against the transgender community; adding, customers may use changing rooms that apply to their gender identity.

      So……… just “representin'”

      • http://acecakenews.com The Sinister Porpoise (Lara)

        Nice try, but this is story about Chicago.

        And that was someone who took horrible advice about trying to create stories about sexual predators. You might want to look that one up. Some Christian group thought it would be a great idea. It’s backfired on the people who actually tried it twice now.

        • Amos Moses

          Sorry …….. just shows a continuous pattern that will continue ……..

          • http://acecakenews.com The Sinister Porpoise (Lara)

            by idiots who didn’t understand the group that proposed the idea eventually realized it was not going to work. You’re not reading what I say, but then, you probably have dismissed what I have to say anyway.

  • mike

    make all bathrooms single person… unisex… problem solved.!!!!!!

    • 0pus

      That’s really stupid. Single-person restrooms in a coliseum? A movie theatre?

      Rearranging our public architecture to accommodate cuckoos is absurd.

      • mike

        bathrooms are already 75% stalled… they could easily be turned into walls instead and make the sinks a public open area. wouldn’t be that hard. could obviously make exceptions for things like stadiums etc. but it would solve 90% of the problem.

        • 0pus

          Then again, we could do the sane and least expensive thing: do nothing at all.

          • mike

            i love your brand of reasoning, if its not your beliefs its “stupid” and “absurd” and lets leave it as it is and sweep the issue under the rug. really solid arguments you got there. don’t get me wrong, this is an unneeded change since it affects like .5% i think i read of the population… i don’t agree with them letting trans in either bathroom but thats not the point.

  • Sarah Grace Napier

    So can we talk about the fact that this article talks about him going into a women’s restroom, not dressed as a woman but as a general male predator; then it’s shifts back to Transgender restroom laws…. just saying.

  • bbb

    That just proves that a man can enter a lady’s bathroom without dress like a woman!!
    Anybody that uses that excuse is just a dumb as homophobic.

    • Amos Moses

      MESQUITE (CBSDFW.COM) – A Forney woman says a Ross department store in Mesquite let a man into the women’s dressing room Monday.

      “I was in the dressing room, when we heard a man’s voice,” said Lisa Stickles, who says she quickly told a manager.

      “She went inside the dressing room, came right back out and called me to the side and told me… he was representing himself as a woman today,” Stickles said.

      A customer service representative with Ross would not comment on the alleged incident but said they do not discriminate against the transgender community; adding, customers may use changing rooms that apply to their gender identity.

      So,,,, i am just cuz i said so ………………

  • ChakatBlackstar .

    I’m confused…how does the push for transgender bathroom rights relate to this guy? Wasn’t he a male who identified as male? This seems like it would’ve happened with or without the transgender bathroom issue.

  • http://thebenevolentthou.com/ Max T. Furr, author

    Wow, more propaganda from the Christian Right. I’m sure very few Christians will bother to check this “information.” I did the research and nowhere in original stories (just stories from the usual lying right wing “news” agencies and blogs) was there any mention of “transgender.”

    I forever eludes me why the Christian Right, who claim to be “Christian” and live and vote by “family values,” do not have the integrity to vet such stories, but take the word of so-called Christian news agencies and other right wing sites existing for the purpose of stirring up hatred against whatever they believe will bring in the profit.

    I’ve said for years that those Christians who are most religious leave themselves wide open for this sort of propaganda. Trusting a profit driven organization that often thumps the bible and may even have “Christian” in their name are the very ones to give you false information for their own self interest. And no matter how many of the stories are false and/or skewed to make it misleading, the Christian right voters will continue to believe it.

    How much more boneheaded can anyone get?

    A Public Policy Polling poll in 2015 found that 51% of conservatives believe that Obama is a Muslim. Propaganda works!

    Need anyone ask why progressives are concerned about the intelligence of most Republican voters? Remember, Trump is winning. That means most conservatives believe he will change things in Washington. They don’t bother to think of what he will change. Many believe he is his own man and not beholding to Wall Street. Trump IS wall street. Will he reign in the huge financial institutions? Heck no! He will let them do what they do and more because he will DEAL with them to get the best deal for his own construction projects.

    • Semp

      Provide Cliff Notes, abuelita.

      • http://thebenevolentthou.com/ Max T. Furr, author

        So you still cannot bring your Christian self to be civil and treat others with kindness. That is typical of faux Christians. Pick and choose what you will believe or follow from the Bible. You are a good example.

        What is interesting here is that you continue to fault my age. But for what? You are the one demonstrating your complete inability to act like a decent human being.

        Oh, and I am honest enough to provide my picture. Why do you hide yours?

  • https://havifrommojavi.wordpress.com/2016/05/11/the-state-of-the-transgender-union/ Trans Sisters United

    men in a transgender conversation are males born female, not men. As a Christian, I deplore reading about a deceitful story that discusses male violent predators (a criminal act) with transgender persons (non-criminal, medical transition). It’s hard enough spreading the Great Commission with truth, and nearly impossible through deceit such as this. Pre-condemning the innocent as guilty despite innocence is nothing other than bearing false witness on a massive scale—–a clear-cut 9th Amendment violation. Jesus would be very, very disappointed.