‘Together 2016’ Organizer Meets With ‘Pope Francis’ to Unite Christians, Catholics on National Mall

Hall Bergoglio Together-compressedWASHINGTON — An ecumenical event featuring Hillsong United, Lecrae, Michael W. Smith, Josh McDowell, Ravi Zacharias, Francis Chan and other renown evangelical and Catholic speakers and musicians that is set to take place in Washington, D.C. is raising concerns as it seeks to draw a million attendees to “link arms” in unity, including with the Vatican.

“Together 2016” is an event to be held on July 16 at the National Mall in Washington, and seeks to unite those of various backgrounds to “stand together for Jesus.” Both Christians and Catholics alike will be featured at the prayer and worship event.

“Together 2016 is about laying aside what divides us to lift up Jesus who unites us,” organizer Nick Hall of PULSE told Christian News Network. “We are coming together in historic unity to pray for a reset for our nation.”

“Jesus said that His followers are family. We believe that it is time for a family gathering,” he also said in an official statement. “It’s not about what divides us, but about the one who unites us—Jesus. The world sees division. We can change that.”

This week, Hall announced that Jorge Bergoglio, also known as Pope Francis, will be delivering a video message to those in attendance.

“We are humbled and honored by his involvement and are eager to share his message with the crowd that gathers at Together 2016,” he told the Christian Post. “That His Holiness would choose to speak into this historic day is a testament to the urgency and the need for followers of Jesus to unite in prayer for our nation and our world.”

Hall traveled to Rome on Thursday to meet with the Roman Catholic leader and other Vatican officials ahead of the event.

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“We’ve been praying for this and God has been answering our prayers,” he said in an online video in speaking of Bergoglio’s support of the gathering, explaining that he and a representative from the Vatican discussed how to unite Christians and Catholics.

Hall also noted that he and Bergoglio would be praying together on Friday.

“This is just what God’s been doing,” he asserted.

Supporters of the event include The Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, the Luis Palau Association, CRU (formerly Campus Crusade for Christ), Intervarsity Christian Fellowship, Premiere Productions, the National Day of Prayer, YWAM, the American Bible Society and other organizations.

Confirmed speakers include Francis Chan, Ravi Zacharias, Josh McDowell, Southern Baptist Convention President Ronnie Floyd and National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference President Samuel Rodriquez. Music will be provided by Michael W. Smith, Hillsong United, Lecrae, Kari Jobe, Jeremy Camp, Lauren Daigle, Casting Crowns, Kirk Franklin, Andy Mineo and Matt Maher, among others.

“I love the name Together,” Joel Houston of Hillsong United said in a statement. “There’s a power in unity and a blessing that comes when people put aside their differences and gather together for one purpose. Our prayer is for this to be a reset for us as a generation of the church—in America and beyond.”

Worship leader, Matt Maher, who identifies as a Roman Catholic, has outlined at other ecumenical events that he believes it is his calling to work toward to the unification of Christians and Catholics.

“We’ve never seen a unified church before in the history of the church since the Reformation. We don’t even know what it looks like,” he said at OneThing 2015. “I think what the work of unity starts with [is]: It starts with us praying together. It starts with us fellowshiping together. It starts with us having a common respect for each other, a love for each other.”

However, not everyone believes that Christians should link arms with Roman Catholics and set aside major differences that go to the heart of the gospel.

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“Nick Hall either does not know the exclusivity of the gospel of God or he does not know the Roman Catholic plan of salvation because they are diametrically opposed,” Mike Gendron of Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries told Christian News Network. Gendron is a former Roman Catholic who now teaches evangelicals how to share the gospel with Catholics.

“We’re divided on how one is born again: Rome says water baptism, the Bible says the work of the Spirit. We’re divided on how one is justified: Rome says faith plus works, the Bible says faith. We’re divided on how one is purified of sin: Rome says purgatory, the Bible says the blood of Jesus. We’re divided on the essentials of the gospel: Rome has other mediators, the Bible says it’s Christ alone,” he explained.

Gendron said that Jesus himself came to divide with truth, and prayed that His Church would be sanctified with that truth.

“It was the Lord Jesus Christ who came to divide: He divides with His word and His gospel. He divides mother against daughter, father against son—and we must remain sanctified and not united with any who are not born again,” he explained. “More than ever, we must maintain the exclusivity of the gospel of Christ. What hope does an unbelieving world have unless we maintain the purity of the gospel?”

Gendron also stated that he is concerned about the message that it will send when Christians see evangelical leaders involved with an event that validates Roman Catholicism, and therefore does not view those in the religion as a mission field.

“This is going to put the gospel off limits to many Roman Catholics who are there, so it will also confuse the evangelical Church,” he said.

In addition to concerns about unification with the Vatican, there are also questions about Hall’s inclusion of Andy Mineo at the event following his defense of profanity earlier this year on Twitter.

“Do you guys really think if a person uses ‘profanity’ (words we’ve given meaning) in their music they couldn’t possibly be Christian? Why?” Mineo asked, and later responded to a follower who said Christians shouldn’t be using profanity, “Your idea of Christianity is black and white. One day you’ll understand there is grey and it’s ok.”

As previously reported, some have likewise expressed concern over Kirk Franklin’s appearance on profane rapper Kanye West’s new album.

“When I was sitting in the studio with Kirk—Kirk Franklin—and we’re just going through it, I said, ‘This is a gospel album with a whole lot of cursing on it, but it’s still a gospel album,’” West stated in a recent interview on Big Boy Radio. “It’s the gospel according to Ye.”

Hall did not respond to Christian News Network’s question as to whether an artist’s behavior is a factor when being vetted, or if there is a vetting process at all for speakers and musicians.


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  • dongszkie

    Why are you NOT UNITED probably because you are all not in Christ. . .Christ’s genuine followers are always united..John.17:20-23. 1Cor.1:10-13

  • Amos Moses

    All heresies and heretics ………. eventually …… converge ……………

  • Amos Moses

    Gendron ……….. good source ………..

    • Bill Scudder

      Gendron is good when it comes to the truth about the RCC even though he is a Calvinist.

  • ComeOnPeople!

    There are false teachers and a false Messiahs. If your Messiah does not match up to the long awaited for Messiah in the Torah, Psalms, Writings and the Prophets… he is another Messiah and not the GOD of the bible. If your Jesus throws out the instructions of GOD… he is another jesus and not the GOD of the bible. If your leaders and prophets teach anything other then what was written, then you are following false leaders and prophets.

    The word of GOD says there will be a one world religion in the end times but that church is not of GOD. That one world church will persecute GOD’s true believers.

    Go ahead and unite …. the worshipers of the sun did the same at the tower of Babel . Uniting in worship does not make you the true body of Messiah. Uniting and serving none other then the GOD of Abraham , Issac and Jacob, the one who is and was and is to come, the great IAM, the ONE who came in the flesh to redeem man back unto HIMSELF… and worshipping HIM not according to what pleases men but how HE says to worship HIM… this is what makes you the body of the Messiah… and HIS redeemed called out choose people. He’s after the hearts of men not lip service.

  • Madmouse

    What is in the water at Hillsong? Some of the denominations you seem to want to merge with the catholics have been tormented for centuries BY the catholics. The catholics have some highly disturbing practices 🙁

    • TheBottomline4This

      The funny thing is that with God there is no denomination. Sadly most people will go to Hell with their gods and the remnant will be in Heaven with God. We need to pray that the scales come off of people’s eyes and hearts.

      • Nathan Huggins

        Wait, who is the remnant? Sounds like a movement with a description. Namely the description of Rev. 12:17 and Rev 14:12.

        God has a people that will stand before men and angels with this criteria from these verses.

    • Slidellman4life

      What is in the water at Hillsong?

      I am saddened by what I have been hearing about them over the past few months.

      • TheBottomline4This

        I started avoiding most CCM (Christian Contemporary Music) years ago after realizing and reading about that type of music. I don’t recall what I ran across, but there is plenty of info about it online. I can try and find some info if you’re interested, just let me know. Most CCM artists are just pop stars that throw in some Christian terms in their music and walla, success. But not really…they are leading many astray.

        • ComeOnPeople!

          yep kinda like christian idolatry which many practice. It just don’t fly!! GOD never accepts a mixture in worship.

  • TheBottomline4This

    This is not of God. Mark and avoid those who are mentioned in this article who are going to “unite”.
    The book of Matthew 7 says…
    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

  • Darby C. Reger

    Why in the world would a Christian care what the Pope has to say? What Christian would even give him a platform?

    • Ronald Carter

      Can there really be anyone on this planet who doesn’t know that Catholics are Christians?

      • TheBottomline4This

        What makes you think catholics are Christians Ronny?

        • Ronald Carter

          Several things – a couple of millennia of history, a dictionary, the Protestant Reformation, history books…

          • Oboehner

            You are the last one to be arguing this topic, isn’t there a knitting site somewhere you could be trolling on?

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m not surprised you take offence to my statement Oboehner, as it has empirical evidence, data, and historical facts to back it up. All of which are anathema to you.

          • Oboehner

            I’m not surprised that you have absolutely no clue, there is no empirical evidence, no historical facts – just like the other crap you’re pushing.

          • Slidellman4life

            Then flag him and move on.

          • Ronald Carter

            You can’t flag things just because they make you cry, Matthew. Haven’t you learned that yet?

          • Slidellman4life

            Still trolling, Rob?

          • Ronald Carter

            I haven’t been banned or had messages deleted for being obnoxious, Matthew. Can you say the same? Also, I have no idea who Rob is, and I don’t care.

          • Oboehner

            The accepted sources of historical facts and empirical evidence that everyone in the world uses, trusts and accepts but you, says otherwise.

          • Ronald Carter

            Gee, it would be really swell if you could present some. But you never do, do you?

          • Slidellman4life

            I haven’t been banned or had messages deleted for being obnoxious

            Another lie. Big shock.

          • Ronald Carter

            It’s not a lie Matthew.
            Back under your bridge, now. Shoo.

          • Slidellman4life

            LOLOLOL

            Yeah. You are such an angel.

            And you expect people to believe that crap?

          • Ronald Carter

            You’re notorious enough around here that I’m willing to let people decide for themselves. I stand by everything I’ve ever posted here.

          • Slidellman4life

            Dude, this is not even about me.

            Fact of the matter is, you have been challenged over and over again and you have responded with nothing.

            You want to compare my honesty and integrity to yours and see how they stack up with everyone else here as judge?

            It’s yours to lose, Ronnie. And we both know that’s not your real name.

          • Ronald Carter

            I defy you to provide ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of something you’ve challenged me on which I have not answered. And it doesn’t count if I answer and you happen not to like what I say.

            Tell you what Matthew. You keep flagging my posts and calling me a troll and I’ll continue to follow the rules of this forum and allow the moderators to make that call.

          • Slidellman4life

            I can provide an example where you lied and an example of where you provided a non-answer to someone else.

            https://
            disqus.
            com/home/discussion/christiannewsnetwork/90_year_old_former_us_senator_and_adviser_to_martin_luther_king_to_marry_40_year_old_man/#comment-2650314204

            The other example is here. In this thread.

          • Ronald Carter

            So what I’m reading is me providing a list of pastors who advocate killing homosexuals, and you not liking or believing the sources given. That’s not lying nor is it providing a non-answer. That’s you wanting to bury your head in the sand rather than acknowledge that there are sick and murderous pastors out there.

          • TheBottomline4This

            I don’t think you should be flagged Ronny just because we disagree on something. Now there are certain things people choose to say that I will flag on, but so far you haven’t said those.

          • Ronald Carter

            I know we disagree about many things but I appreciate that. It’s only Slidellman4life who’s trying to censor me.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Why flag people. Everyone deserves a voice. When you flag people what you are saying is only you should be heard. LOVE is patient and kind, LOVE thinks of other and not self. Let all type there words and if you do not like those words then do not read them or read them and move on.

          • Slidellman4life

            Why flag people. Everyone deserves a voice.

            Even people who post comments designed to provoke anger in others (aka trolling), which is all “Ronald” does when he isn’t lying?

            I don’t think so.

          • Ronald Carter

            Haven’t trolled once.
            Not once.
            You just don’t like my answers. Whose problem is that?

          • Slidellman4life

            Haven’t trolled once.

            I really think you should be using the moniker “Tommy Flanagan.”

          • Ronald Carter

            I’ll just stick to facts and logic and rules and common courtesy, thanks. You go off and play the censor.

          • Ronald Carter

            You think anything people post that makes you angry are troll posts. And you think anything people post that make you angry are lies. I think that’s where your problem is, Matthew.

          • Slidellman4life

            1) Why do you keep calling me “Matthew?” How do you know what my name is?

            2) The problem is people like you, “Ronald.” You have been accused of posting under more than one account and you have said that is not true. Prove it.

            3) You have shown yourself to be rather lacking in integrity with your blatant troll posts and lies. You ask me about having posts deleted when you have had that happen to you.

            4) This whole issue has never, ever been about me, because unlike you every single thing I post on the actual subject at hand I can back up with facts and links if need be. Can you say the same?

          • Ronald Carter

            You have a Twitter account which shows your name is Matthew.
            I don’t have to prove it’s not true, you have to prove that it is. How would I prove that I’m not someone else anyway?
            I don’t troll and I don’t lie and you have never been able to provide a single example of either. But you’ve attempted to get my posts removed many times by flagging them. And it’s never worked.
            Yes I can say the same. I seriously question the source of many of your “facts”.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Be offended . We are told it’s wrong to be offered by this new mamby pamby society. I could care less if someone is provoking me or disagrees with me. Let them a nonbeliever but I will remain true to myself and my GOD. I cannot expect them not to flag truth if I flag lies. I cannot ask them not to flag my words which offended them if I flag those which offend me. Let everyone show consideration for another even those who offended you. Now if they go over the top and just are perverted then yes flag because that goes beyond a disagreement or view.

          • Ronald Carter

            How funny you’ve accused me of lying countless times and yet cannot cite a single one. I call that pathetic, Matthew.

          • Slidellman4life

            I have called you on each lie you have said in my presence when you said it. Don’t even try playing that.

          • Ronald Carter

            There is only one liar in this conversation, Matthew, and it’s not me.

          • Slidellman4life

            Projection. You are so good at that.

          • Ronald Carter

            Says the guy who accuses me of lying and hasn’t been able to produce a single example. Model Christian.

          • Oboehner

            What and miss out on: “No, only the accepted sources of historical facts and empirical evidence that everyone in the world uses, trusts and accepts but you.” the answer he gives for everything?

          • Ronald Carter

            And yet you still miss out on it, everyone else got the memo. Not hard to open a dictionary Oboehner.

          • Oboehner

            Not hard to let others do your thinking for you is it ronny?

          • Ronald Carter

            Rich coming from Mr. Goddidit.

          • Ronald Carter

            No, only the accepted sources of historical facts and empirical evidence that everyone in the world uses, trusts and accepts but you.

          • Oboehner

            Nope.

          • Ronald Carter

            If you think Catholics worship chunks of rock, then I submit you know absolutely nothing about Catholics or Catholicism.

          • Oboehner

            It must have been a pope look-a-like I saw kissing a graven mary image.

          • Ronald Carter

            Which couldn’t possibly have been a gesture of respect to the mother of Jesus Christ.

          • Oboehner

            There you go flapping your gums without a single clue yet again. Do you show respect for the wrapper you candy bar came in, or do you just eat the bar?

          • Ronald Carter

            You’re right, let’s just take the unsolicited opinion from a fundamentalist outsider rather than ask the people who’ve been doing it their whole lives.

          • Charles

            What “Facts” might those be?

          • Ronald Carter

            Look up Catholic in the dictionary. Read a history book on Christianity. There, done.

          • Charles

            I have. That’s how I know you are lying, confused, or both.

          • Ronald Carter

            Really? My dictionary says Catholics are Christians. What does yours say?

          • Charles

            My Holy Bible says they are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

          • Ronald Carter

            Why are you using the Holy Bible for word definitions? That’s not its purpose.

            And no, your Bible says nothing about the Catholic church. That would be quite a trick since the Catholic church happened AFTER the Bible.

          • Charles

            “And no, your Bible says nothing about the Catholic church.”. Sure it does… Tells me who they really are..

            Ecc 1:9 KJV
            (9) The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

          • Ronald Carter

            Well, you have to be willing to read a book to see the empirical evidence, and not run screaming from it. That’s your problem.

          • Oboehner

            Your problem is making stupid comments with no backing whatsoever.

          • Ronald Carter

            Do you mean fully accepted backing which your goddiditism doesn’t permit you to see? Want to talk about stupid?

          • Amos Moses

            “Pope Contradicts Genesis Account of Creation, Argues ‘God and Evolution’ Are Compatible” —– article above …………

            Anyone claiming this is not christian …………….

          • Ronald Carter

            If he feels that the Genesis account is metaphor, he can be and is still a Christian, as many Christians think that way. And most Christians accept evolution. And if I look up “Christian” in the dictionary, there is nothing in either of these beliefs that would make someone NOT a Christian. A Christian is defined very simply as one of follows the teachings of Jesus Christ.

            This is why you can be a homosexual and still be a Christian, or a liberal, or any of the other people you take such issue with.

          • Amos Moses

            “If he feels that the Genesis account is metaphor, he can be and is still a Christian, as many Christians think that way.”

            If he doubts the word of God ………. he is not …….. especially from the position he holds …… and many hold that scripture is not the word of God ……….. so no ……

          • Ronald Carter

            But he DOESN’T doubt the word of God, Amos. He just understands it differently than you do. You think you are right and he thinks he’s right, and you both turn to the same Bible to justify why you think so. This is why so many of you Christians cannot be taken seriously by those of us on the outside, because you all practice the No True Scotsman fallacy. And when you can’t agree, you tell the other that he’s not a true Scotsman. I mean, Christian.

            Doesn’t it strike you as odd that there are thousands and thousands of Christian denominations because of this exact petty bickering over who is right?

          • Amos Moses

            “But he DOESN’T doubt the word of God, Amos.”

            Then you do not understand RCC doctrine ……….. and yes he does doubt it …..

          • Ronald Carter

            I understand it perfectly. This is the No True Scotsman fallacy in action, Amos. You fell for it hook, line and sinker.

          • Amos Moses

            “No True Scotsman fallacy”

            No ………….. that is the “No True Scotsman Fallacy Fallcy” and is internet nonsense ……. and guess what ………… You fell for it hook, line and sinker.

          • Ronald Carter

            No, it’s one of the major logical fallacies and religious types are particularly susceptible to it if they think they magically chose the right denomination out of thousands and all the others are wrong. Which is exactly what you’re saying.

          • Amos Moses

            No ………. it is made up internet garbage ……………. and scripture gives us all authority to determine who is a christian and who is not ……………. who is a follower of Christ …. and who is a false teacher and a ravening wolf ………

          • Ronald Carter

            What scripture does not do is give you the authority to call important pillars of logic and debate “made up internet garbage.”

            https://yourlogicalfallacyis. com/

            You are giving yourself the ultimate authority to dictate who is and who isn’t a Christian. You’re far from being the only one to do that. I could probably find a handful of people who say that YOU are not a Christian either based on some belief you’ve got. They’d be wrong, too.

          • Amos Moses

            Yes it does ………….. it is internet made up garbage ……… has nothing to do with logic …… it is the avoidance of debate that the person uses it when they know they cannot win ……….. it is garbage …………

          • Ronald Carter

            It has EVERYTHING to do with logic. It tells you the things to avoid doing if you want to make a good logical argument, and the No True Scotsman is the one you should really pay attention to.

          • Amos Moses

            We are here talking about biblical truth ………. Not your made up garbage to silence your foes ……… scripture gives us ALL authority to decide who is a christian and who is not …… who are the believers ……….. and who are the ravening wolves ……… and we all see where you fall ………………….. so FAIL …………………

          • Ronald Carter

            Talk about your Biblical truth then. Just do it honestly and stop telling people they aren’t Christians if they believe they are.

          • Amos Moses

            i will tell them whatever i please and if it disturbs your serenity ………… all the better …… scripture gives every christian authority to decide who is and who is not christian …………… who is a false teacher and who is a ravening wolf ……………. so thank you Mr. Wolf …..

            Comforting the afflicted, Afflicting the comfortable ……………

          • Ronald Carter

            And is it so hard to do that without lying, or assuming you’re right and every other person (including other CHRISTIANS) is wrong?

          • Amos Moses

            See …………. your dishonesty just shines through ………………… you want to make this about me …….. and ………….. THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE …………. personal attack …………. it is not about me ………… it is about biblical truth and Christ ……………. and you seem to have NEITHER ……………

          • Ronald Carter

            It isn’t a personal attack. But I think you’re being dishonest. You’re right and everyone else is wrong. Isn’t that how most evangelical Christians think? Being totally honest?

          • Amos Moses

            No ………… i am right …………. and you do not even know what right is ………… yet ……… and you are here to attack the brethren with your lies and sophistry and deceit ………..

          • Ronald Carter

            That isn’t what’s happening and you know it.

          • Amos Moses

            The Roman Catholic Church (much like the Judaizers in the book of Galatians) upholds four fundamental tenets of the Christian
            faith: the deity of Christ, the Trinity, the virgin birth, and the bodily resurrection of Jesus. However, it denies that Christ’s work
            of redemption is finished and that His atonement is sufficient.

            In addition, Catholic teaching opposes the doctrine most essential to the Christian faith – the doctrine of justification by
            faith alone. The RCC not only denies this doctrine, but also condemns anyone who believes it. The Catholic Church may say
            that it believes in salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, but the doctrines of that church deny these words.

            The Roman Catholic Church says it believes in salvation by grace alone. However, their “grace” is not the free gift of
            Christianity but can only be received by the individual in partial installments dispensed through the “magesterium” of the RCC *
            (see Catholic Doctrinal Guide for definition). The RCC says it believes in salvation through faith alone – but adds works to that.
            It says it believes in salvation through Christ alone – but adds, among other things, membership in the Catholic Church, a belief
            that water baptism, even of infants, is what constitutes being born-again, and unbiblical beliefs about Mary. If doctrine is not
            discussed, then Christians will never realize that the doctrines of the Bible are different from the doctrines the RCC adheres to,
            no matter what they say to the contrary. More importantly, if we do not delineate the differences in doctrine between the
            Christian Church and the Catholic Church, we do an incredible disservice to those Catholics who believe they are born-again
            yet still continue in the church of Rome. If we evade doctrinal issues, we are not giving Catholics the chance to escape from a
            deception that will condemn them to eternal death. If a man believes a false gospel, he is not saved and cannot be discipled.
            The discussion of doctrinal differences is truly a life – or – death matter.

          • Ronald Carter

            You aren’t saying I haven’t heard a million times before, it’s been previously refuted a thousand times and comes from hostile fundamentalist sources and is basically conspiracy theory. Sorry.

          • Amos Moses

            Conspiracy theory = i cant truly refute what you are saying ………. so i will use a pejorative to deny that it is true …….. and then i do not have to think about what you really said …….

          • Amos Moses

            DOCTRINE OF JESUS

            JESUS, THE SAVIOR:

            Bible: “He saved us not because of any righteous deeds we had done, but because of His mercy” (Titus 3:5)

            Roman Catholic Church teaches that “by His death and resurrection, Jesus Christ has ‘opened’ heaven to us” (1026 -references
            are from 1994 Catholic catechism). Each person attains his own salvation by grace and good works (1477).

            JESUS, THE SINLESS REDEEMER:

            Bible: “For you know it was not with perishable things…that you are redeemed…but with the precious blood of Christ” (1 Pe
            1:17-18).

            RCC teaches that Mary is the sinless co-Redeemer. “Without a single sin to restrain her, she gave herself entirely to the person
            and work of her son; she did so in order to serve the mystery of redemption with Him…being obedient, she became the cause
            of salvation for herself and for the whole human race” (494)

          • Amos Moses

            “Doesn’t it strike you as odd that there are thousands and thousands of Christian denominations because of this exact petty bickering over who is right?”

            No ……….. many choose to believe a lie ………….

            “Been there, done that. I left for a good reason.”

            See …………. you did …………..

          • ComeOnPeople!

            HE said there would be MANY false messiahs and many FALSE teachers. So it is as HE said it would be. I broke free from religion and just started reading HIS word and it’s so simple even a child can understand it. If you have HIS SPIRIT it will lead and guide you into ALL TRUTH. Most of Christianity is returning to Rome because they still carry a lot of Catholicism in them. They keep the holidays Rome created and leave off keeping GOD’s feasts. They keep a first day of the week sabbath issued by Rome in which they admit they did it on their authority not GOD’s authority . Most Christians eat unclean animals and yet if they study scripture no where & YES even the new testament does it say those instructions are resented.

            The church in Rome threw out GOD’s instructions as do must Christians but there is a movement of people coming out of religion and returning to the word of GOD and HIS WAYS. They are of all back grounds and denominations and they are meeting all over the world in homes and rented buildings. I for one have seen more love, compassion and true fellowship in these house fellowships then in my over 30 years in a main stream church.

          • Ronald Carter

            Catholics are Christians. I’m sorry if you can’t accept that.

          • Lise Belair

            No they are not christians or followers of Jesus Christ. They have created another Jesus in their minds. Its not the Jesus of the bible they follow. They follow the pope and other gods and they don’t even know it. They do not believe the gospel.And they refuse to listen to the truth but prefer to believe lies of the pope and priest. They do not care for the truth or the word of God. I am an ex catholic and I do know what goes on in there.They pray to other gods and worship other gods. Sorry but they are deceive and you are deceive

          • TheBottomline4This

            I agree. I was a catholic for over 20 yrs. How long were you one?

          • Lise Belair

            Pretty much all my life cause my parents decided for me as an infant that I was Catholic. I am born again follower of Jesus for the pass 15 years now

          • Lise Belair

            I never really practice it just by name only. They thought me basic but as an adult I was bored in that church and I always knew that there was more to God then they were teaching. Never knew what it was until someone came to my house and told me about Jesus. I use to try and read the bible but never could understand it. It was mumbo jumbo to me so I always ended up closing it and let it collect dust. But when I came to Jesus and the next I open the bible the words were just coming out of the bible and I was able to understand what I was reading. It was just awesome. The reason people cannot understand the word its because the spirit of God is not in them. People Always try to reason the bible with their minds. Its only with the spirit of God you are able to understand it. You must be born again and God says that he reveals his word only to his children and that it is hidden to the world who don’t know him.

          • Lise Belair

            If they would know the true Jesus of the bible they would not shut us up when we mention the name of Jesus. They cringe at the name when we want to talk about Jesus. They tell us don’t talk to me about your Jesus but on sundays they are willing to listen to a deceitful priest. Once they step out of the church they go on with their everyday life still in sin feeling good that they have done their duty like they say.Its a duty to serve and follow God? We follow him cause we Love him.And also the Vatican church is knitted together with Islam. The catholic church has created Islam and the pope wants to reunite a one world order to bring all religion into one. Yes I know which religion he wants us in its in his church. He wants to bring us back to Rome. And he also says that it is dangerous to have a personnel relationship with Jesus like what?The Catholic church is the church of Babylon that the bible talks about and also a false prophet. You might want to research everything . I love the catholic people don’t get me wrong its not them but their false religion they are in that I hate. I have family members who are Catholic and they do not care for the truth

          • Charles

            “They cringe at the name when we want to talk about Jesus. They tell us don’t talk to me about your Jesus but on sundays they are willing to listen to a deceitful priest.”. Spot on… Who in the world doesn’t love to talk about Jesus? Many play “Christian” once a week and go right back to their ways…

          • Ronald Carter

            Nonsense. The pope is just the human leader of the Roman Cathilic church, just as your church has a human leader, and he teaches from the Bible. I was raised Catholic and there were Bible readings and Bible studies every week.

          • Slidellman4life

            Nonsense?

            If Catholics are Christians? Then why do they:

            *Pray to Mary and Joseph instead of God and Jesus
            *Believe a man can redeem sins
            *Believe people go to purgatory and can be prayed into heaven or hell

            None of these things are biblical.

          • Ronald Carter

            Even if they did all those things (which I disagree with), why would it make them not be Christians when you can believe in all of Christ’s teachings and still do all those things? What do you think the definition of a Christian IS? You can’t base it on the things that YOU don’t like.

            They don’t pray to Mary or Joseph. They might pray THROUGH Mary, asking her to pray for them, but that’s called intercessory prayer and is no different than asking a family member or friend to pray for you.

            They don’t believe a man can redeem sins. Confession is done with a priest as a witness and the confession goes to God.

            They don’t have to be Biblical, Matthew, because Catholics aren’t Bible-only Christians like you are. They still recognize the authority of church teachings and sacred traditions. And just because they aren’t in the Bible doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do them. Is your car or your computer in the Bible?

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            Your church is based on the Bible. The Bible is based on my Church. Everything else is your opinion.

          • Slidellman4life

            The Bible is based on my Church.

            What church are you talking about?

          • Joe

            Let me try a settle this argument. There are some (what percentage, probably small) in the Catholic church that believe in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ alone for their salvation. So yes they are Christians, however the Catholic Church in general is in know way a part of the Christian church.
            The Catholic Church makes tradition above or equal to Scripture, but in actuality many of its traditions actually stem from pagan sun worship. Its teachings, beliefs and practices come from Mithraism—a form of paganism that existed in Babylonian times.

            The Papacy claims that its system of worship has been handed down through tradition. They are absolutely correct. But these are not the teachings of Jesus, but rather the traditions of Babylon.

            Roman Catholic doctrines such as infant baptism, sprinkling during baptism, teachings on death and immortality, tonsured and celibate priests with power over the dead, prayers to the dead and to relics, repetitive prayers with the use of beads, doctrines on forgiveness of sins, teachings on hell, the mass, and Sunday worship are doctrines actually derived directly from ancient Babylon, not the Bible.

          • Ronald Carter

            You’re saying so many things that are total fundamentalist garbage that it’s impossible to have anything resembling a proper discussion with you.

            The original church used sacred scripture, church teachings (the magisterium) and sacred traditions as the three elements of authority. Along came fundamentalism and discarded two of those three. On whose authority did they do that? And for what reason, because they are “man made”? The Bible is every bit as much man-made as the others, and if you don’t believe me, then why are there so many different translations of the Bible? So being “Bible-only” is a relatively new idea, and sola scriptura as it’s known is itself unbiblical.

            Early Christianity (including Catholicism) existed at the same time as many pagan things but you’re trying to tie the two together and you’ve got no cause to do so. Christianity celebrated its major holidays around pagan ones to try to convert pagans over to Christianity. I’ve heard it all – Saturnalia, sun worship, etc. etc. If the whole point of Christianity is to worship Christ, why would they do anything pagan? They might adopt some pagan traditions such as the Christmas tree and mistletoe, but so what?

            And I’m not going to entertain your ridiculous claim about Catholicism being the whore of Babylon.

            Your last paragraph I won’t comment on either except generally because there’s so much garbage in it I wouldn’t know where to start. I will however address infant baptism. Christianity is divided on the subject. Some of you think baptism is something you do when you are old enough to know what sin is because you think baptism is about actual sin. The other Christians, including the Catholics, believe that it’s about ORIGINAL sin, which we are all born with the stain of. So you believe one thing and they believe something else, but guess what? You are in the MINORITY on this, because MOST Christians believe it’s about original sin and baptize infants for that reason. This isn’t about who’s right or wrong, it’s about the fact that there are two schools of thought on baptism and you’re arrogantly pretending there is only one side.

          • Joe

            You can not dispute the following quotes Ronald.

            Pope Boniface VIII said “We declare, assert, define
            and pronounce to be subject to the Roman Pontiff is to every creature
            altogether necessary for salvation… I
            have the authority of the King of Kings. I am all in all, and above
            all, so that God Himself and I, the Vicar of Christ, have but one
            consistory, and I am able to do almost all that God can do. What therefore, can you make of me but God?” (5)

            Pope Pius IX said, “I alone… am the successor of the apostles, the vicar of Jesus Christ. I am the way, the truth, and the life…” (6)

            Pope Pius X declared, “The
            Pope is not simply the representative of Jesus Christ. On the contrary,
            he is Jesus Christ Himself, under the veil of the flesh. Does
            the Pope speak? It is Jesus Christ who is speaking, hence, when anyone
            speaks of the Pope, it is not necessary to examine but to obey.” (7)

            Pope Pius XII said, “…recognize
            the Holy, Catholic, Roman Church to be the only true Church of Jesus
            Christ, outside of which neither sanctity nor salvation can be found.
            Call them to the unity of the one fold, granting them the grace to
            believe every truth of our holy faith and to submit themselves to the
            Supreme Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Jesus Christ on earth.” (8)

            These blasphemous Papal proclamations oppose what Jesus told us in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

            Popes proclaim that Mary lived a sinless life and is the co-redeemer of salvation.

            Pope John Paul II said, “The truth of the Assumption,
            defined by Pius XII, is reaffirmed by the Second Vatican Council, which
            thus expresses the Church’s faith: “Preserved free from all guilt of original sin,
            the Immaculate Virgin was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory
            upon the completion of her earthly sojourn. She was exalted by the Lord
            as Queen of the Universe…For the Mother of Christ is glorified as ‘Queen
            of the Universe‘.” (9)

            “The Church… been accustomed to have recourse to that most ready intercessor, her Mother Mary … For as St. Irenaeus says, she ‘has become the cause of salvation for the whole human race.‘” (10)

            Pope Pius XI said, “What will it cost you, oh Mary,
            to hear our prayer? What will it cost you to save us? Has not Jesus
            placed in your hands all the treasures of His grace and mercy? You sit
            crowned Queen at the right hand of your son: your dominion reaches as
            far as the heavens and to you are subject the earth and all creatures
            dwelling thereon. Your dominion reaches even down into the abyss of
            hell, and you alone, oh Mary, save us from the hands of Satan.” (11)

            Pope Benedict XV declared, “To such extent did Mary
            suffer and almost die with her suffering and dying Son; to such extent
            did she surrender her maternal rights over her Son for: man’s salvation .
            . that we may rightly say she redeemed the human race together with Christ.” (12)

            “God has committed to her the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is his will, that we obtain everything through Mary.” (Pope Pius IX: Encycl., Ubi primum, February 2, 1849.) — [p. 12, number 12]

            “O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, obtains salvation except through thee, none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.” (Pope Leo XIII: Encycl., Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895.) — [p. 12, no. 13]

            “If it is impossible to separate what God has united, it is also certain that you cannot find Jesus except with Mary and through Mary.” (Pope Pius X: Allocution to the Franciscans, November 12, 1910.) — [p. 14, no. 20]

            “Every day, as the Church herself recommends, priests
            will recite the Holy Rosary, which, by proposing for our meditation the
            mysteries of the Redeemer, leads us to Jesus through Mary.” (Pope Pius XII: Exhortation, Menti nostri, September 23, 1950) — [p. 14, no. 23]

          • Ronald Carter

            What are you trying to prove with these quotes? There have been many popes throughout history. Some of them good and some of them bad.

          • Chrissy Vee

            There is no reasoning with Mr. Carter. He is deceived and wishes to remain in that state. Facts and truths are retorted with the same drivel we have come to expect from the willfully ignorant masses, with not even an iota of consideration.

          • Joe

            Well said Chrissy!

          • Ronald Carter

            That’s an obnoxious thing to say Chrissy. Reason with me all you want but bring some actual reason to the table and not a bunch of opinions.

            “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” – Fulton J. Sheen

          • Lise Belair

            Yes he is very deceive and does seem he wants to remain in that state. He refuses knowledge which is crazy. He will have to search for himself if he really wants the truth. Seek and you will find

          • Guy New

            COME OUT OF THE RELIGIONS OF MAN… FOLLOW THE ONLY ONE WHO SAVES JESUS THE CHRIST… YES ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE BEAST ANTICHRIST SYSTEM.. DESIGNED BY SATAN RUN BY MAN …

          • Charles

            “Doesn’t it strike you as odd that there are thousands and thousands of Christian denominations because of this exact petty bickering over who is right?”. Not at all. It’s the right play.. Mask the real Word of God with numerous fakes.

          • Ronald Carter

            And how do you know you chose the right one? There are plenty that insist they are the only way and insist they are understanding the Bible the right way and everyone else isn’t.

          • Charles

            Because I read the Holy Bible. Because what the Lord promised, he delivered. Did exactly what he said he would do… You see, everyone has particular sins that they enjoyed as a sinner. Mine was lustful eyes.. Funny thing though, the Lord actually took it away.. It was something that plagued me day and night… Not anymore! Praise the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit for setting me free Lord! I’m a witness like many here I’m sure.. They’ve had similar issues, and the Lord set them free. The Lord is only capable of such a task.. I was never able to do it.

          • Ronald Carter

            In other words you do exactly what so many others who call themselves Christians do, and yet you can’t seem to not fight with each other over who is the true Christian church. Not exactly what Jesus had in mind, I’m guessing.

          • Charles

            I use the Bible as my reference… Those that listen to God’s Word, will also follow.. Not surprising you think that somehow Christians would be united in the world were Satan dwells. There will be no unity until the Messiah Jesus Christ returns.. Amen.

          • Ronald Carter

            I would think that if God exists he’d want as many of his people to be with him as possible, and you seem to want to divide, divide, divide, and only let people in with you if they believe EVERY SINGLE EXACT DETAIL of your belief system. That’s not Christianity, that’s snobbery.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No the very word Christian means Christ – Like. To be Christ-like one must walk as HE walked and HE kept the law perfectly. Can I keep it perfectly ? NO and I’m thankful for the sacrifice HE made because of my disobedience and therefore I keep HIS commandments to the best of my ability because I LOVE HIM. Those who love GOD and have HIS SPIRIT will honor HIS word and serve HIM not as they wish but according to how HE says to worship HIM and it won’t be via Mary, using beads, idolatry or celebrating pagan festivals. It does not matter what we feel or think in regard to worship but what HE thinks because HE is the one being worshipped and HE is HOLY (set-apart) and HE wants HIS people to be HOLY. We cannot worship HIM as pagan worship their gods. True children of GOD are easy to spot… they are the ones that worship HIM in SPIRIT and in TRUTH.

          • Ronald Carter

            Rosary beads are a simple aid to prayer. No you don’t need them but there’s no reason not to use gem if you want to.
            Catholics celebrate Christian festivals like Christmas and Easter.
            They don’t practice idolatry.

          • Charles

            Those aren’t “Christian” festivals, they are pagan.

          • Ronald Carter

            Christmas, the celebration of Christ’s birth, is pagan?
            Easter, the celebration of Christ’s resurrection, is pagan?
            I think I give up with you now.

          • Charles

            A. Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25. During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the week long celebration. The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.” Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week. At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

          • Ronald Carter

            Ah, the Saturnalia story. Guessing you are a Jehovah’s Witness.

            Let me ask you something, if your entire life you celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25th, and never even HEARD the word “Saturnalia” until someone who thinks they know your beliefs better than you do suddenly threw it in your face one day, were you inadvertently celebrating the wrong thing all that time? Is it possible to celebrate a pagan festival you have never heard of?

            Of course not. But more than that, just because some pagan event happens around the same time as Christmas doesn’t mean that pagan event BECOMES Christmas. And regardless of origins and roots, if you gather together once a year to celebrate the birth of Christ who is the CORNERSTONE of Christianity, what exactly does that have to do with anything pagan?

          • Charles

            If you were going to “Celebrate” Christ.. Why a pagan day? Why not ANY OTHER day? Because the enemy creates deception.. That’s how the enemy works. In fact the deception will be so great it would fool the elect if possible. All of the fake religions will merge in the years to come. Ha ha.. No, definitely not a Jehovah witness.

          • Ronald Carter

            Because it was very common for Christians to have their holidays around the time of pagan celebrations as a means of converting pagans to Christianity.

            The only non-Christmas Christians I have ever heard the Saturnalia story from have been JWs.

          • TheBottomline4This

            We are not JW’s. We have been non-Christmas at times, but for us it’s more the commercialism of it all that we have rejected.
            We celebrate Christ’s birth at Christmas, knowing that He wasn’t born on that day or in that month. It’s remembrance for us, just like any of us do when we celebrate in remembrance anything…anniversaries, birthdays, an important event.

          • Ronald Carter

            I agree.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            How do you? Catholics worship the pope and Mary.

          • Ronald Carter

            They do no such thing.

          • Lise Belair

            Yes they do Ronald. I am an ex Catholic and they do those things and much much more.You better check them out cause you are in the church of Babylon the harlot church.They keep dead saints in Poland and worship them. Did”t you know that? I know all about it and they are facts. Dead saints skulls ect,,,,,

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m not Catholic, I am ex-Catholic like you. The difference I understood what I was practicing, and either you did not or you are being deliberately dishonest about it. Tell me what you had trouble understanding from your Catholic upbringing and I’ll explain it to you.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            It matters not what you feel or think… you are not the one being worshipped. The GOD being worshipped has told you how to worship HIM and not to worship HIM as the heathens worship there gods. HE said we are not to worship HIM in like manner.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            You know the day of your anniversary & birthdays, yet Messiah never celebrated HIS birthday and neither did HIS family. HE was a Jew. You dishonor HIM by doing so. HE gave the people of GOD many many feast days in which to celebrate and remember HIS power and work on earth. Some still only shadows of what is to come and others the true article seen when Messiah died, was buried and resurrected and also when the SPIRIT of GOD came on Shavuot (Pentecost). We have so many true celebrations days in which to honor GOD , why would we go against HIS word and worship HIM on a day HE never gave in in manners that are abominable to HIM?

          • TheBottomline4This

            What denomination or type of Church do you attend?

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            Did Jesus ever ask what denomination one was? There are three recorded birthdays in the Bible…Pharaoh’s, the sons of Job, and Herod. One all three, a soul DIED. But God would sanction such a practice?

          • Charles

            So… To convert pagans to Christians, you celebrate on pagan worship days? Yeah.. That makes all the sense in the world.. Many stop celebrating when they find out it’s origins..

          • Ronald Carter

            Why does it matter when they celebrate, Charles? Who cares? What’s being celebrated is what matters.

          • Charles

            During Christmas, they aren’t celebrating Christ.. People are stepping on each other to grab a TV for crying out loud..ha ha..

          • Ronald Carter

            Not all of them.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            You do not need to be a Jehovah Witness, who are also under the Romish banner. All one merely needs to do is open an uncorrupted encyclopedia.

          • Ronald Carter

            Can you recommend one?
            Every encyclopedia I’ve ever seen supports everything I’ve ever known about it.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            If your encyclopedia says that America was founded by men escaping high taxes versus men fleeing Roman Catholic persecution, then it is corrupted.

          • Ronald Carter

            Well, I think they ALL say that, so again you’re welcome to recommend one that says something else. You appear to have a problem with accepted history.

          • Josey

            You must be born again!

          • Ronald Carter

            No thank you.

          • Lise Belair

            Right there you just reject Jesus and the gospel the truth. You said no thanks. John 3 veres3 says unless one is born again he cannot enter the kingdom of God. You must have the spirit of God living in you to enter, If you don’t God says you do not belong to him. We are all born from the flesh earthly Father and Mother but we must have the spirit of God. What is flesh is flesh what is spirit is spirit. You must be born again and get save by surrendering your live to Jesus and repenting.

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m not going to do what you did and buy into a bunch of Pentecostal hogwash.

          • Jill Sawyer

            You will spend eternity in hell then if you are not born again….and that is scriptural

          • Ronald Carter

            That’s a bizarre and brutal thing to believe in. I want no part of it.

          • Jill Sawyer

            You are then calling God a liar and the bible a lie….there are no ifs ands or buts about it…I will pray for you

          • Ronald Carter

            Save the prayers for yourself. I don’t need them.

          • Ronald Carter

            I thought only God got to make pronouncements like that. Are you God?

          • Jill Sawyer

            Man your ignorance is abounding…..I am not judging and it isn’t judging when you are talking about the bible….

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Jesus was a Jew and Jews do not celebrate birthdays. Not to mention HE was GOD manifested in the flesh and GOD has no beginning and no end. Christmas was a manmade festival instituted by the Roman Catholic Church to bring in pagans who were already celebrating the rebirth of the sun on that day. Easter was brought in also as a mixture of the true celebration of PASSOVER and the pagan spring festivals . Easters very name is derived from Ishtar a fertility goddess of love and war. The very mode and forms of traditions uses to celebrate those days all come from pagan mode and tradition. The cutting down of a tree and decorating it, the holly garland, the wreaths, mistletoe and of course the much worshipped SatanClaws …. The dying of eggs, eggs laid by a rabbit , new cloths , ham , cross buns and of course sun rise service are all pagan traditions and mode of worship.

            Do your own research. Don’t take my word for it. Look up the councils of 325 AD and you may just be amazed. I was! Study church history and you will find that as soon as Constantines supposed conversion to make Christianity a state religion, laws were passed to kill or impression any Christian who celebrated passover or kept the biblical sabbath . Those Christians who would not agree to mix the profane with the holy were pretty much killed , demonized and ran out of dodge. Believe it or not before Constantine infiltrated the church, Christianity was a sect within Judaism . Read the New Testament . They met on the Sabbath days and read the law of Moses and taught in the synagogues & they kept passover and the other feast days. It’s all historical fact. The church in Roman created another Jesus and another gospel and imprisoned or killed those who would not conform to a mixer ,deeming them judaizers.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            Christians do not celebrate the resurrection of Christ with easter…it is done by baptism as the Scriptures declare.

          • Ronald Carter

            Well then I guess you’ve been living in a bubble most of your life, because most people, not just Christians, celebrate Christmas on December 25th.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            And these self deceived Christians glory in the fact that Jesus Christ is dead and gone…with glee!!!

            MERRY: mer·ry Pronunciation Key (mr)
            adj. mer·ri·er, mer·ri·est

            Full of high-spirited gaiety; jolly.

            Marked by or offering fun and gaiety; festive: a merry evening.

            Archaic. Delightful; entertaining.

            Brisk: a merry pace.

            The word “Merry” is defined to mean great happiness and joy. What of the word Christ?

            CHRIST: Christ Pronunciation Key (krst) n.

            The Messiah, as foretold by the prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures. Often used with the.

            Christianity. Jesus.

            Of course we already understand Christ is the title our Lord Jesus has been ordained before the foundation of the world for all of us. Now all we need to do is define the word “Mass” in Christ-Mass. This is in fact a Roman Catholic word, so let us go to the Roman Catholic Encyclopedia to find its meaning.

            MASS: “In the Christian law, the supreme sacrifice is that of the Mass. …The supreme act of worship consists essentially in an offering of a worthy victim to God, the offering made by a proper person, as a priest, the DESTRUCTION OF THE VICTIM.”

            Source = Page 537 of the Catholic Encyclopedia

            So, in essence the word Mass is defined as death sacrifice or “Destruction of the victim” according to the Roman Catholic church itself. So, when you say “Merry Christmas” you are actually declaring with great happiness and joy that Jesus is dead and gone. Kind of like the crucifix in the Catholic church declaring He is dead and they have proof they killed Him when they display His dead body for eons before the people. The Roman priests refuse to believe Christ IS risen and Christ WILL come again. If they did they would at least remove Him from that cross!

            By the way, when Santa Clause says “Ho ho ho, Merry Christmas” he is openly and boldly mocking the sacrifice of Christ WITH LAUGHTER!!
            A true Christian would want to examine and guard everything they say, because Jesus our Lord said to us in Matthew 12:36-37, “But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.”

          • Ronald Carter

            Well congratulations, that’s about the biggest bunch of conspiracy theory and nonsense I’ve ever read. Guess what, when people say Merry Christmas they’re not saying that they’re happy Jesus is dead. I promise you.

          • Jill Sawyer

            A TRUE CHRISTIAN will NOT pray the rosary beads….you are very delusional and have not a clue as to what you spout for you are very ignorant….the Bible STATES that we are not to pray to the dead…there is no misunderstanding anything in regards to this….the DEAD cannot help you! There is ONE mediator between us and GOD and that person is JESUS CHRIST and that is scriptural!! If you want to learn the TRUTH you might want to go to a BIBLE TEACHING CHURCH…..

          • Ronald Carter

            Catholics don’t think they are praying to the dead, they believe Mary is very much alive and in Heaven and if she isn’t then what hope is there for the rest of us? I’m not Catholic anymore but I respect their beliefs. Too bad you don’t. You want to play this game where your belief is the only true and correct one. Guess what. There are a lot more Catholics in this world than fundamentalists. And for a very good reason.

          • Jill Sawyer

            There is a line that is not crossed when a person dies…you either go to heaven or you go to hell…and no Mary is not to be prayed to and that is biblical….so once again you are calling God a liar and the bible a lie….good day

          • Ronald Carter

            And Catholics don’t believe what you do. Simple. Good day.

          • Jill Sawyer

            “Catholics don’t believe they are praying to the dead”? Hogwash…..if a person isn’t alive on this earth they are dead….and God doesn’t listen to MAN about making decisions for man is not perfect but HE is……I truly feel sorry for you….you are choosing to make a conscious decision that is the wrong decision….

          • Ronald Carter

            Well then Jill Sawyer, what we have on our hands is known as a DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. You know, when you think one thing, and the other side thinks something else? Very common. But hardly a reason to start condemning people to hellfire, wouldn’t you say? Maybe you need to calm down a bit?

          • Ronald Carter

            I don’t care for your name calling, Jill. If you don’t want to use rosary beads, then don’t use them. But you can’t stop others from doing it.

          • Jill Sawyer

            It isn’t name calling but telling the honest and brutal truth……I’m sorry if I am not like your sugar coating prefer

          • Oboehner

            “This is why you can be a homosexual (or a pedophile, or a murderer, or…) and still be a Christian, ”

            Your complete ignorance is showing.

          • Ronald Carter

            Your goddiditism is showing, even though you try so hard not to let it.

          • Guy New

            TRUE CHRISTIANS DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION !!!!!!
            I AM A EX TRANSSEXUAL… I REPENTED AND HAD MINISTERING ANGELS COME CELEBRATE ME A LOST SHEEP BACK INTO THE FOLD…

            NO
            the issue is satan causing destruction to humans. I am a EX-TRANSSEXUAL
            who went thru all the surgeries and reverted back as best as possible
            by 2008 after a 1998 transition to fake female.. i know the perversions
            in the LGBT world.and i also know the
            perversion in the straight world which i was a part of both… all your
            article has done if give the many variations of distortions in the LGBT
            community. The reason why this spread so fast is because first the
            HETEROSEXUALS became perverted by satan which then opened the door to
            LGBT.. yes they all have existed in some form or fashion but once people
            could remove the focus off the majority and put it on the minority it
            made it real easy for them to justify the minorities twisted actions
            because the majority of heterosexuals had already become twisted and
            perverted. Now it will jump into major evil as people with animals and
            children and genetic alterations etc etc.. AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH SO
            SHALL IT BE IN THE END TIMES.. not saying these are them but the evil
            people are using the Bible as their playbook and so all we can really do
            is pray and repent and be sure each one of us is not living a life of
            wilful sinning. The Father and the Son will not hear the prayers of
            unholy people.. may we all now get on hands and knees amen

            Reading
            in Jeremiah today i realized humankind has always been seeking their
            own evil ways and the father also wants us to know he created us and yet
            he may have given us freewills but he had hoped we would choose him to
            be our potter and we would be his clay.. may we turn back before more
            burn for eternity.

          • Charles

            “And most Christians accept evolution”.. WHAT!!!!??!???!! What are you talking about.. You don’t have a clue what you are saying.

          • Ronald Carter

            This is from Wikipedia:

            Evilution is generally accepted by major Christian churches, including the Catholic Church, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Episcopal Church USA, and some other mainline Protestant denominations; virtually all Jewish denominations; and other religious groups that lack a literalist stance concerning some holy scriptures.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Um, regardless of what the great philosopher wiki says, the ones listed in this are not Christians. Can there be some Christians in each of those denominations? Sure. One day God will lead the few out of those denominations. There are no denominations with God.

          • Ronald Carter

            No True Scotsman fallacy. You can’t say they aren’t Christians just because you disagree with what they do. That’s not your call to make.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Sorry Ronny, but it is my call to make. IF people are going to say they are Christians, I can determine by their words, actions, choices, etc if that is true.
            Let’s for the sake of this illustration say that being a Christian is like being in a Club. Don’t Club members examine those who claim they are members? Yes. They check their ID. If the ID checks out then they are welcomed. But if the ID doesn’t check out they are not welcomed in the Club. Many ID’s have not passed muster of those who claim to be Christians.

          • Ronald Carter

            “IF people are going to say they are Christians, I can determine by their words, actions, choices, etc if that is true.”

            And what if those actions are perfectly acceptable or desirable in the faith they subscribe to, but not yours? And you both use the same exact Bible? How do you determine which of you is right and which of you is wrong?

            Examine that idea a bit and you’ll see the inherent snobbery of so many Christians. All denominations are, are clubs, to use the example you used. That’s all. A group of people who stick to one common set of beliefs. At least when I was raised Catholic I was never told that the others weren’t Christians. All I was told was that they believed in God and Jesus Christ the same as us but did things a little differently. I think that’s a lot healthier than telling others they aren’t Christians.

          • Slidellman4life

            That fallacy does not apply. Christianity does not have an open definition and never has.

          • Ronald Carter

            You don’t have the right to dictate who is or isn’t a Christian based on their doing things you don’t happen to practice. They disagree with you too but I doubt many of them would tell you that you weren’t a Christian.

          • Josey

            AMEN! There is the Head Jesus Christ and One body, His bride.

          • Charles

            “Evilution is generally accepted by major Christian churches”… So you site “Generally” as the majority? Seriously? Wiki?

          • Ronald Carter

            Yes. Seriously. Wiki.
            Even if you’re one of those people who doesn’t take Wikipedia seriously (even though it has a talk area for every subject where people can discuss points of contention), every single fact mentioned in what I posted is accurate. Oh, notice too it puts the Roman Catholics in there as being among the largest groups of Christians. Guess you didn’t like that part. Anyway, no matter how you slice it, most Christians take no issue with evolution. It’s just the fringe element who do.

          • Charles

            Catholics aren’t Christian.. I can show you Catholics singing to Lucifer, I can show you the Pope flipping 666 symbols, worshiping the sun, worshiping Mary, worshiping the dead… I can also show you every Un-Biblical practice they do.. I can go on, and on with this.. Again, the Catholic religion is everything BUT Christian.

          • Oceansides

            Ronald, your understanding of Christians is not from the Bible. Please, study the Bible.

          • Ronald Carter

            I would bet I know the Bible far better than you do, so you shouldn’t make generalizations.

          • Slidellman4life

            None of those are Christian churches.

          • Ronald Carter

            So not only are you denying that Catholics are Christians, you are denying that Lutherans and Episcopalians are as well?

          • Slidellman4life

            Why are you asking such a dumb question?

          • Ronald Carter

            Typical insulting non-answer from you Matthew.
            If it’s so dumb, how come everyone in the world except for you knows they are Christians?

          • Slidellman4life

            Are they?

          • Ronald Carter

            Obviously. How can you not know that?

          • Slidellman4life

            Because it is subject to debate. How can you not know that?

          • Ronald Carter

            Because it is not a subject for debate. Those are very obviously Christian denominations. You have the No True Scotsman fallacy disease pretty bad.

          • Slidellman4life

            Because it is not a subject for debate.

            According to you. Not according to God.

            You have the No True Scotsman fallacy disease pretty bad.

            Been over this already.

          • Ronald Carter

            You don’t speak for God. Those are Christian groups recognized worldwide. You don’t get to say this group or that group isn’t Christian because they don’t meet your personal standards your royal highness.

          • Slidellman4life

            You don’t speak for God.

            And you do? You need to be real careful.

            Anything you need to know about Christianity is in the Bible. It’s all there, black and while, clear as crystal.

            Any doctrine that is not 100% rooted in the Bible is heresy.

            (Romans 16:17, 1 Timothy 1:9-11)

            You want to dispute it? You are free to argue with God when you stand before Him.

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m not attempting to speak for God. I’m not the one telling other people who say they follow Him that they really don’t.
            As for the rest, I have to wonder if you’re not testing me into saying something they’ll remove my post for, because to suggest the Lutherans, never mind Catholics, are not Christians, is one of the most mind-bogglingly moronic things I’ve ever heard in my life.

          • Ronald Carter

            Hey Matthew, hot off the presses. A vehemently anti-gay pastor caught doing guess what? Over 70 counts, wow. And he’s NOT Catholic!

            Maybe these are the sort of people you should be calling false Christians.

            https://unitedhumanists. com/2016/06/10/anti-gay-pastor-arrested-on-70-counts-of-child-pornography/

          • PK Hodges

            oh-oh,my friend, you’re looking for truth in the words of man, and you won’t find it there. The Word of God is truth. The world’s upside down gospel is not. Get into the Word, Ronald. Get into the Word, and “you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.”

          • Ronald Carter

            Been there, done that. I left for a good reason.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Ronny, what was your reason?

          • Ronald Carter

            I simply could not believe the Bible was the word of God. The way all the books were voted on for inclusion, the inconsistencies and things that were flat-out impossible. That’s where it started. Christian hypocrisy didn’t help.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Well just to be fair, I know plenty of non-Christians that are hypocrites.

          • Ronald Carter

            So do I.

          • Josey

            You must be born again to even grasp the living word of God and one who is born again walks by faith not by sight, it takes childlike faith to even become born again and then one must walk and grow in their faith, there is action needed, you cannot become stagnant, you grow in faith as God answers this prayer and so forth and so on and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. John chapter 3 and your excuse of hypocrisy will not fly when you stand before Almighty God on Judgement day. You must repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Now is the day of salvation for tomorrow isn’t promised. If this is truly your choice to reject Jesus Christ as your Savior and reject the Holy unchanging word of God as His instruction for you on how to live in the Spirit then why do you come to a Christian site?

          • Ronald Carter

            No thanks. Evangelicals and fundamentalists make me far more uncomfortable about Christianity than the others.

          • Bob Johnson

            If “it takes childlike faith to even become born again,” then why not baptize infants?

          • Ax2root

            Too bad that disagrees with The Word of God.

            I agree with HIM

          • Ronald Carter

            What’s that? The dictionary disagrees with God?

          • Slidellman4life

            Just not the Bible.

          • Ronald Carter

            How do you expect Catholicism to be in the Bible when the Bible predates Catholicism?

      • Amos Moses

        Some are …………….. most are not ………….. not if they think Mary has any authority over Christ ….

      • Ax2root

        Sitting in a garage doesn’t make you a car.

        Sitting in a pew doesn’t make you a Christian.

        NEITHER DOES INFANT BAPTISM

        • Ronald Carter

          Lutherans baptize infants.
          So do Episcopalians.
          So do Methodists.
          Should I go on?

          • Ax2root

            Doesn’t matter.

            The Word says we are born again by Grace THROUGH FAITH.

            Infants DONT have FAITH to be born again in Jesus Christ .

            God doesn’t expect it of infants.

            But The Word says GOD REQUIRES being born again by Grace through faith FOR ADULTS..

            MANY people who think they are born again are NOT BORN AGAIN in the family of God BECAUSE of denominational disagreement with The Truth who is The Word of God

            Desire to know THE TRUTH

          • Ronald Carter

            So you follow believer’s baptism and others follow actual baptism. That shows how divided you are on many issues. Most Christian denominations baptize infants. It doesn’t mean they aren’t Christians. It means you have a difference of opinion. Which is why all this anti-Catholic crap is so offensive.

          • Ax2root

            False charge.

            I desire to agree with The Word of God in ALL THINGS.

            Desire to know the TRUTH and be delivered of false mans religions

            The Word of God says YOU MUST be born again to be in the family of God ( john 3:3)

            Romans 10:8-11 tells you HOW TO BE BORN AGAIN

          • Slidellman4life

            Most Christian denominations baptize infants. It doesn’t mean they aren’t Christians.

            Sure it does. Baptizing infants is a fruitless gesture, as they already have a place in heaven. It has been argued that once a child becomes aware and achieves understanding they become vulnerable to eternal damnation, which only Jesus can save them from.

          • Ronald Carter

            That’s because you practice, and only recognize, believer’s baptism and not baptism which removes the stain of original sin. You simply understand it differently than the other side. But it’s pretty arrogant of you to pretend there IS no other side when the ones who do it outnumber you.

          • Coach

            The ones in hell outnumber those in heaven. What ground do you base the assurance that you won’t be in the lake of fire along with John Paul 2 and every other anti-Christ, what separates you as being saved?

          • Ronald Carter

            How the hell do you know who’s in heaven and who’s in hell? You don’t.

          • Jill Sawyer

            Spoken like a true Catholic…. Sighs….you truly are ignorant in what you are saying and the reply posts to you are indeed telling you the truth….an infant being “sprinkled” on is not a baptism….scriptural baptism is total immersion….infants are also NOT of the age of accountability so when they die they go to heaven…..but the Catholics have always made their own rules just as the pope is doing now and they are known for not teaching the truth….are Catholics true Christians? If they teach a different doctrine than what is in the bible they aren’t and this pope as well as other popes before him are not Christians and certainly NOT HOLY…God is holy not the pope

          • Ronald Carter

            Who are you to teach baptism to people who were doing it thousands of years before you?

          • Jill Sawyer

            Have you read the book of acts? Apparently you haven’t and I think I would listen to GODS WORD versus a heretic like the pope!

          • Ronald Carter

            The Pope who teaches about Jesus Christ? That pope?

          • Jill Sawyer

            It is called read the book of acts especially chapter 2…..it is Gods word that teaches the rule of baptism…..have a good day

          • Ronald Carter

            So you are unfamiliar with original sin? You are telling me to read the Bible, and you completely forget the story of Adam and Eve and the serpent?

          • Jill Sawyer

            Yes I am familiar and John the Baptist baptized for remission of sins and God gave a baptism of the Holy Ghost which is the baptism of fire….you have claimed that you have read the bible many times but you honestly are ignorant in what you post….again read the book of Acts and read what happened in the top level when all 120 people received the spirit of The Holy Ghost….oh but you have already stated you don’t believe such….

          • Ronald Carter

            There are far more Christians who baptize infants than those who don’t. So I just think it’s pretty arrogant of you to be in the minority telling those who’ve baptized more and for a longer period of time that they’re wrong.

          • Oceansides

            No, most Christian denominations don’t baptize infants. Baptism *is* biblically prescribed–for those who have reached an age of understanding in terms of what they are committing to–but not for infants. And the act of baptism itself saves no one –it is just the outward sign of someone who has already been saved by faith in the atoning blood of Christ (not by works!).

          • Ronald Carter

            Let’s do some math.
            Who baptizes infants? Let’s just look at the major Christian denominations:
            Roman Catholics
            Lutherans
            Methodists
            Episcopalians

            That’s leaving out many other smaller denominations who do as well.
            That’s well over half of the Christian denominations, so therefore the majority of Christians baptize infants.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            In order to be a “Christian” denomination, one must follow the life, teaching and examples outlined bu the Son of God. Not a denomination you mentioned does this. Ask any Catholic priest…

            Is the Jesus of Rome the Jesus of the Bible? Notice a “few” of the teachings of Rome. Does this sound like they preach the Jesus of the Bible? All one needs do is open a Bible, then open a Roman Catholic
            Catechism book.

            Do they preach Jesus when they GLORIFY Mary as Co-Redeemer?

            Do they preach Jesus when their priestly ambassadors of Jesus are drunks, smokers, child molesters, thieves, and murderers?

            Do they preach Jesus while killing 500 million Christians during the dark ages?

            Do they preach Jesus while placing tradition over and above the Scripture?

            Do they preach Jesus when they teach of Purgatory instead of Salvation in Jesus?

            Do they preach Jesus when teaching you must suffer to be saved, making the cross insufficient?

            Do they preach Jesus while going to man for forgiveness instead of God Almighty?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope says “Evolution is fact” making Jesus the Creator a liar?

            Do they preach Jesus when they teach gambling is acceptable Christ-like activity?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope praises and embraces Buddhism on global News networks?

            Do they preach Jesus when they preach that “Fellow believers” stoned Stephan on EWTN?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope preaches “Mankind can protect you better than God”?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope preaches you MUST be loyal to him to be saved?

            Do they preach Jesus when they teach you must bow down to the Pope and kiss his feet? (Papal worship)

            Do they preach Jesus while killing millions for merely reading His Bible?

            Do they preach Jesus when they ignore Jesus example, and baptize babies as did Pagans?

            Do they preach Jesus when they put His Bible on the list “forbidden books” back in 1229ad?

            Do they preach Jesus when they “venerate” crosses, statues, images,
            relics, etc?

            Do they preach Jesus when they sell indulgences making the cross insufficient?

            Do they preach Jesus when they preach you must worship a wafer instead they parade before you?

            Do they preach Jesus when they preach a cloth “scapular” will save you instead of Jesus?

            Do they preach Jesus when they put books in the Bible, Jesus nor the Apostles ever quoted or used?

            Do they preach Jesus when they say Mary was “utterly without sin”?

            Do they preach Jesus when call the Pope infallible and Jesus’ Word fallible?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope himself states to all the world “He is god” on earth?

            Do they preach Jesus when the Pope proclaims that the “church” is a must for salvation?

            Do they preach Jesus when they make war with the Saints of Jesus as prophecy said Antichrist would do?

            Do they preach Jesus when they slowly torture followers of Jesus to death?

            Do they preach Jesus when they destroy entire nations?

            Do they preach Jesus when they ABOLISH the Sabbath that Jesus kept and sanctified and adopt the Pagan day of the Sun?

            Matthew 16:18, “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

            This single verse PROVES the Catholic church is NOT of Jesus! Historic fact is, the gates of hell have prevailed against this church from the beginning and will do so all the way until it’s SOON demise! If this church they claim was built upon the faith of Peter is Roman Catholicism, then they also proclaim Jesus Christ a liar. For even the Pope himself admitted in his mea culpa on March 12, 2000 that the gates of hell DID PREVAIL against his church. So much so that over 500 million Christians
            were burned at the stake, drawn and quartered, buried alive, boiled in oil, skinned alive and had numerous other horrendous acts of evil done against them. Is this what Jesus would have Christians do to those that don’t embrace His Word? Even a babe in Christ can easily proclaim, no! Jesus would never do as Rome does!

          • Ronald Carter

            That’s way too much misinformation and hate to address at once. Sorry.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            The truth hurts…sorry.

          • Ronald Carter

            Why don’t you post some, instead of a pack of tired old fundamentalist lies and conspiracy theory?

          • Seniorsquadldr

            They are all blinded by the prince of this world.

          • Ronald Carter

            And who are you referring to now? I cannot imagine.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            And these same denomination read from corrupt bibles, like the NASB and the NIV, which have removed Acts 8:37 which declare that one must be taught the good news of the Gospel (Matt 28:18-19) and profess the name of the Lord Jesus to receive baptism. An infant cannot do this, thus Rome removed that verse from the Scriptures.

          • Elspeth

            I’m confused that you say Acts 8:37 is removed from NASB bibles, it is in mine? Can you clarify. Are you saying the only non-corrupt bible is the KJV?

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            New American Standard Bible (NASB)

            37 [[a]And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”]

            This verse is BRACKETED in the NASB. This gives the impression, to a babe in Christ, that the verse does not belong. Examine the “footnote”

            Acts 8:37 Early mss do not contain this v

            The NASB brackets and says this verse is not in the oldest and best texts (which are the Catholic corrupted texts out of Alexandria Egypt).It’s a lie that cannot be proven; in fact the opposite is easily proven. Many verses are done this way.

            The reason the Catholic church removed this verse from their Bible and was instrumental in having it bracketed in the NASB and removed completely in many others is mainly because this verse proves that a person must first BELIEVE that Jesus is the Son of God BEFORE being baptized. An infant cannot make this statement, so rather than change their doctrine, they try and change the Bible to save face.

            This is a scripture comparison of NASB and KJV Bible passages, showing that the NASB was not properly translated. This is just a sample of the many verses in the NASB that change the Word of God dealing with the virgin birth of Christ, the deity of Christ, the infallibility of the Bible, salvation by faith, the Godhead, and many other areas of importance to the Christian Faith. While the NASB doesn’t altogether do away with the subject of the deity of Christ, it attempts to downgrade it. Many verses are completely eliminated. Verses have been changed in every book. This is just a small sample of those verses. The NASB along with numerous other modern translations is a product of Catholicism, endeavoring to corrupt the Bible of fundamental Bible believing Protestants, and to insert their own corrupt doctrines. I will share a few from the hundreds that I have found…

            Matthew 13:51 KJV “Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto Him, Yea, Lord.”

            NASB “”Have you understood all these things?” They said to Him,
            “Yes.””

            NASB leaves out ‘Jesus saith unto them’ and ‘Lord.’ This is trying to do away with the divinity of Jesus and His Lordship.

            Luke 4:41 KJV “And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God …”

            NASB “And demons also were coming out of many, crying out and saying, “You are the Son of God!” And rebuking them, He would not allow them to speak, because they knew Him to be the Christ.”

            NASB leaves out the reference to Jesus by the devils that He was “Christ.”

            John 10:30 KJV “I and my Father are one.”

            NASB “I and the Father are one.”

            Again, Satan is trying to do away with the Heavenly Father, and sit himself on the throne. These are some more of the verses doing away with the Personal “My” or “Our” Father for an impersonal one, as well as changing “Our Lord” and “My Lord” to “The Lord” in referring to Jesus. John 10:32 KJV “Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?” NASB Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?”

            I have more, I you would like to see them.

          • Jill Sawyer

            That is correct

          • Elspeth

            Thank you John1429dotorg for the information, it was very helpful and led me to much research, and discussion. But, this said, I have to disagree with the KJV only mind set. Since the time of the KJV many words have changed meaning, just for one example the word “closet” in Mat 6:6. While reading the KJV we really need a dictionary & in-depth word study to make sure we are not misunderstanding the interpretation of a words meaning. As a post script, I find it helpful to always compare my KJV with my NASB for additional insight.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            And who gives understanding? The NASB or God? The problem is that men do not understand the Scriptures because they fail at keeping the requirement God has provided for understanding…the fear of the Lord, which is…

            Psalm 111:10, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good UNDERSTANDING have all they that do his COMMANDMENTS: his praise endureth for ever.”

            Psalm 119:73, “Thy hands have made me and fashioned me: give me UNDERSTANDING, that I may learn thy COMMANDMENTS.”

            Proverbs 4:1-2, “Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know UNDERSTANDING.

            For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my MY LAW.”

            Deuteronomy 8:6, “Therefore thou shalt keep the commandments of the Lord thy God, to walk in his ways, and to fear him.”

            Jeremiah 29:13, “And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all YOUR HEART.”

            Psalm 119:34, “Give me UNDERSTANDING, and I shall keep thy law; yea, I shall OBSERVE it with my WHOLE HEART.”

            Proverbs 9:10, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the KNOWLEDGE of the HOLY is UNDERSTANDING.”

            Romans 7:12, “Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”

            Read Ezra chapter 8 and examine what happened to the people when they heard the Law.

            Elspeth “Since the time of the KJV many words have changed meaning, just for one example the word “closet” in Mat 6:6.”

            Changed by whom? God?

            Malachi 3:6, “For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”

            We cannot apply our “modern” definitions to what God has penned in His word. The word gay in the Scriptures, what is the meaning here? Happy or homosexual?

            James 2:3, “And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:”

            The bottom line is the NASB is not a trustworthy Bible at all. It’s missing Scripture! How can you depend on it for “understanding” when it removes words and texts that aid in understanding! More examples…

            1 John 5:13 KJV “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”

            NASB “These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have
            eternal life.”

            NASB leaves out the last 13 words of the verse that speak of putting our faith in Christ. Why?

            Matthew 9:13b KJV “for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

            NASB “for I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

            NASB leaves out “to repentance.” Jesus is merely calling to sinners. But what are they being called too? Without this reference, what is the sinner called to? It is not by accident that this change is made not just in one verse, but in each of the gospels, eliminating all together that reference to the need for repentance.

            John 6:47 KJV “I say unto you, he that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

            NASB “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.”

            NASB leaves out the words ‘on me’, leaving you to wonder what to believe in. Our faith has to be in Christ. NASB left out what we are to put our faith in, Christ.

            Matthew 25:13 KJV “Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”

            NASB “”Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.”

            NASB leaves out “wherein the Son of man cometh,” changing the whole meaning of the verse.

            My friend, this is just a small sampling that one can easily produce when they do a line upon line comparison of the KJV and the NASB.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            And they all received this doctrine, as they have received Easter, Christmas, and Sunday sacredness, from their harlot mother…the Roman Catholic Church.

          • Ronald Carter

            Too bad they outnumber you by about a billion to one, none of whom believes that harlot nonsense.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            Just like Noah and his 7 companions were out numbered by the whole world. How did that work out for the rest of the planet?

            Matthew 7:13, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:”

            Numbers prove absolutely nothing in the Word of God. Ask Moses about “numbers”. Elijah. Jeremiah. Daniel and his three fellows.

          • Ronald Carter

            So you are part of a handful and the rest of us are going to hell for what we believe?

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            Nowhere did I say you are going to hell for what you believe….but if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. Do you receive your instruction from ecclesiastics, doctors of divinity, professed theologians…or that from the Word of God?

          • Ronald Carter

            I receive instruction by living my own life in my own way and having all my own experiences. I don’t learn it from ancient holy books.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            “in my own way” Cain, Nimrod, even Satan himself likely have spoken similar statements…

          • Jill Sawyer

            The Catholic Church is the harlot described in the bible….God uses a woman to describe His church….

          • Ronald Carter

            I don’t know who I feel sorrier for, you for believing that nonsense or the deluded person who taught it to you.

          • Jill Sawyer

            Another thing you haven’t read the bible about and just who do you say the harlot is? Or are you one that says that it is all nonsense? Because from what I understand that is exactly what you believe? So if you do you are calling the bible a lie and God a liar and I don’t think I want to be in your shoes

          • Ronald Carter

            Yes I have read the Bible, many times. You don’t know me at all so how dare you say so?
            I’m not calling God a liar, I’m calling anyone who believes the harlot of Revelation the Catholic Church a liar. The most accepted understanding of the whore is that it’s false religion. You have said “Yeah, false religion like (insert religion you dislike here)”. In this case Catholicism. It’s just hate, that’s all.

          • Seniorsquadldr

            They will join their brothers, Catholics, in the second death and the Lake of Fire. The fire that burns for eternity but does not consume. Take a look in the book of Revelation and see what Jesus says about Catholics. Ezekiel 33:8-9 “When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou does not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul” Catholics, you have been warned, my hands are clean.

          • Ronald Carter

            Ezekiel 33:8-9 is not about Catholics. Did Catholics exist at the time Ezekiel was written?
            It’s arrogant to suggest that one brand of Christian is superior to another, but it’s downright bizarre to say they’re going to burn in hell. These are Christians you’re talking about, after all, do you realize that?

          • Seniorsquadldr

            Read the headline……… pope francis to unite Christians-catholics-on national……. Catholics are another religion, not Christians.

          • Ronald Carter

            And who wrote the headline? It’s no secret this website doesn’t consider Catholics to be Christian.

          • Seniorsquadldr

            They are correct in that assessment. Catholics are Catholics not Christians. Moslimes are followers Mohammed, Jews are Jews, Buddhists are followers of Buddha, at least they are honest. Catholics are Catholics and followers of a pope. Protestants are some flavor of Catholicism. They are perhaps somewhat closer to Christianity than Catholicism but………….

          • Ronald Carter

            A simple knowledge of history will tell you that Catholics aren’t just Christians but among the very earliest ones. I learned that in grade one. What’s your excuse?

          • Seniorsquadldr

            “O son of man” is the target. Are you suggesting Catholics are not sons of man? You may be correct, they may be sons of Beelzebub.

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m suggesting that you can put any group you hate in that quote and claim to be right. You hate Catholics, so you have chosen to make it about them. Very convenient.

          • Seniorsquadldr

            I am commanded to love my neighbor as myself. I want Catholics to come out of her, and be born again. That is love my friend. The pew sitters have been blinded by the vile lies spoken by the acolyte of Beelzebub, “The Pope”, who will, if he does not repent and believe the gospel, have doomed himself to the second death and the lake of fire. John 3:16-17 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (17) “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved” That is Love my friend. There is no salvation in religion, by the grace of God are you saved.

          • Ronald Carter

            There is no “her” for Catholics to come out of. You’ve been taught hatred from anti-Catholic sources which is false. How would you feel if Catholics were proselytizing to you to leave your faith? But they don’t, do they?

          • Jill Sawyer

            Do not go to baptists or Pentecostals for I will tell you flat out you are wrong….infants are innocent and if they die God takes them….

          • Ronald Carter

            No, you’re correct, Baptists and Pentecostals don’t baptize infants. However they are in the vast minority by not doing so.

      • Darby C. Reger

        Some Catholics are Christians, just like there are Christians in probably every denomination. The problem is that the current pope isn’t a Christian, and anybody who follows him is in danger of being deceived – compare what the Bible says to what this pope says – there is a wide gap between the two.

    • Slidellman4life

      I have been hearing about this on K-Love and Air1. Now I am aware of the full scope of this, I am very disappointed.

  • Oboehner

    “I think what the work of unity starts with [is]: It starts with us praying together.” To mary no doubt. So where are th4e JWs, the Mormons, and every other “Christianese” cult?

  • HisChild

    Excuse me? Did this man call the Pope “His Holiness?” The Pope is a heretic. Mainstream Christians do not see the problem with this, are they all honored that “His Holiness” is going to be addressing this crowd? No, this is not good!

    • TheBottomline4This

      The pope is just a man and has no connection with the God of the Bible. The god he follows is false.

    • Ax2root

      Agreed.

      Discernment of Heresy And Chrislam preached by this Pope is needed

    • olmon

      They are all Apostates. They have all left the teachings of the Bible to teach and adhere to doctrines dreamed up by men. IF they would all actually go to the Bible and follow, teach and live by what the Bible REALLY says, there would never have been a need for ‘Together 2016’.

      • HisChild

        I’m uncertain of the timing yesterday. Was the Reset gathering shut down before the pope spoke to the masses or did he speak and the crowds cheered on?

  • PK Hodges

    I am rejoicing. My heart is smiling. Not because of this evil unity. That is bringing the heaviness of sorrow and the call to prayer.
    I can see there will not be much sleep for me tonight, but hey, so what? I’m spending the night before the Lord Jesus, the Lord of all the earth, praying for this great harvest that we are in, and praying for these ones, whose names I recognise, and ache to see with us in heaven instead of burning in Hell.
    I am rejoicing. My heart is smiling because I am looking at all of your comments and seeing truth being throw back in the face of a devil who is throwing to the ground.
    I’m rejoicing to see a group of believers who are committed to the Lord Jesus Christ no matter what the cost.
    I am rejoicing to hear that all of you are seeing through the facade of the two kinds of Christians these days:The true ones who follow the Lord Jesus Christ, and the fake ones, led by most of the “Christian” leaders of today, false Shepherds. And yes, a pope who speaks lies and acts them out.
    Like Jesus said to me, echoing the very words He spoke two thousand years ago, “You shall know them (the Antichrists) by their fruits.” I had asked Him how I would know the Antichrist(s) and the false prophet, and this was His answer. As always He was right. Always is, always will be.
    Now, it’s time to stand and continue to endure no matter what we hear, no matter what we see, no matter what we see.We are standing on fact. The Word of God is fact. Ours is a walk by faith in an unchanging God.
    Let’s pray for the many who think if someone says, “Yes, I am a Christian,” well then, he is. Not so fast. “We shall know them by their fruit.” If their fruit is sweet-sounding venom-spitting words spoken with million dollar smiles, but contradicting the Words of the Living God, then they are those wells without water, and the spots and blemishes. Let’s pray for all of these as well. They will lead many who do not know the Word and just take the false shepherds word for it, as they stretch forth the “there are grey areas” anti-gospel, down their rose strewn path all the way to Hell.
    The deception is huge and getting bigger every day. The Lord said to me, “They are under a spell. Break the spell.”
    I’m to break it through prayer. So off I go to stay and pray before the Father whose face I will see, because, like you all, I refuse to unite with the lie that I spent too much of my life in.
    And by the way, Jesus came to divide, to set apart the believers and unbelievers, but believers are to unite in Him. He is our completer. Like Paul said, “What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?”

    • Ronald Carter

      “Evil unity”.
      You just think about that phrase a second. We ARE talking about Christians, after all.

      • PK Hodges

        Hi Ronald,
        The Bible predicts this. There are many, many professing Christians in hell, and there will be many more. Check out the words of Jesus. No one received Him when He came the first time. The Church of His day was being led by false shepherds.He said, “I have come in my Father’s name, and you don’t receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him.” John 5:43. Jesus spoke the Father’s words and did the Father’s works. He fulfilled every prophesy the Old Testament said He would in His first coming. Yet, no one knew Him. His teaching was considered revolutionary. The world of unbelievers and sleepy believers, like these, are not following Jesus. They are following the one who has come in His own name. What’s more, they are embracing this one who is contradicting the teachings of the Jesus they say they follow. He is silver tongued, and the words are smooth and crafty. The Bible says in the book of Thessalonians, Ronald, “Now in regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our [a]gathering together to meet Him, we ask you,brothers and sisters, not to be quickly unsettled or alarmed either by a [so-called prophetic revelation of a] spirit or a message or a letter [alleged to be] from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has [already] come. Let no one in any way deceive or entrap you, for that day will not come unless the apostasy comes first [that is, the great rebellion, the abandonment of the faith by professed Christians], and (THEN) the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction [the Antichrist, the one who is destined to be destroyed], who opposes and exalts himself [so proudly and so insolently] above [d]every so-called god or object of worship, so that he [actually enters and] takes his seat in the temple of God, publicly proclaiming that he himself is God.”
        Whoever the world is embracing and calling their own, we can know for certain that this one is not of God, because the Bible and the world always speak and do the opposite.
        I know we are talking about Christians, but in this world, we are seeing two of everything: the real and the imitation. Did you ever play that game “Follow the leader” when you were a kid? I did. The game was all about saying or doing exactly what the leader said and did. If you didn’t obey, you were out of the game. This is what’s going on today. I used to say I am a Christian. And, like these ones (or rather many of them) I was born again. But here was the trouble. I wasn’t following Jesus. I flowed only partly. I was an on again off again. I thought I could walk in grey areas and get by with trying to have Jesus and have the world at the same time, and follow both. It was like being on an elevator and hitting the up and down buttons at the same time. Just wasn’t working. I got into the Word, and increased my knowledge (in my heart not head) of the Lord Jesus Christ. When I did my spiritual eyes opened. I saw the choice I needed to make. Daily. I saw that the Word of God was truth and the world was a lie. It was time for me to make the choice every one of us have, because it’s a God given choice. Did I want the salvation that Jesus died to give me or did I want the world and the things of the world I was busy chasing after? Jesus says we can’t have both. It’s like pushing those up and down buttons on an elevator at the same time. Can’t serve God and money at the same time, or we will love one and hate the other. I was born again, but I wasn’t following the leader, I just said I was but my actions did not back up my words. My words were empty. They were lifeless. That’s the moment I turned to Jesus and said, “Lord God, you are the only truth. The world is a lie.” I turned my entire life over to Him at that time. I gave Him myself. I gave Him every sickness and disease (over 30). I gave Him every single medication the doctors had me on. The devil whispered, “Don’t give Him the thyroxine. You’ll die without it.” (I’d had my thyroid removed a number of years before and the doctors told me that without that medication, I would die a tortuous death.)
        Without the slighest hestitation, I looked at Jesus again and said, “Even the thyroxine, Lord. I give you that too.”
        It was 4 pm. I went back to bed after my prayer of commitment. A few hours later, there was the Lord Jesus in power and glory. That night was the beginning of the rest of my life for I had met the true Jesus, the Jesus who had power as awesome as when He walked on earth the first time, Ronald. That night I was healed of every sickness, every disease, every addiction (to prescription drugs). I was loosed from demons. (Yes, they are real). From that day on, I have never touched another pill. No, not even they thyroxine. Jesus is my healer now. He wants to do the same for others. Every word He speaks is truth and is for us today the same as the early believers.
        I do not condemn these people. Their own words will condemn or justify them. I will however point my finger at the sin. It is the sin that is condemned. It is the sin that kills. If they are wearing sin like it is beautiful clothes, I’m saying take it off, take it all off, and put on that beautiful robe of righteousness that is ours through Christ Jesus.
        The strange thing was I had just posted a teaching sermon yesterday a.m. about unity within the body of Christ. Those ones of us who are following the leader, Jesus, speaking His words, doing His works, walking like He walks. By His power and for His glory. Last night I saw this article. Like I said I would in the first comment I made, I got down before the Lord to prevail for these believers, who like the old me, are following the world, not the Word. I was prepared to pray all night if that’s what the Lord needed me to do. But, it wasn’t long before I was singing in the spirit. An astonished me said to the Lord, “It’s victory. It’s a victory song, Lord!”
        Well, yes it was. I don’t know who for, but He does. Who will turn back, which ones, how many, will take off those clothes of sin and go back to following the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE? I can’t say. God hasn’t revealed it, but some will. That’s all I know. And guess what? I’m hoping you are one, Ronald, cause guess what? God does not condemn you, and neither do I.

        • Ronald Carter

          If you’re put on this earth and follow Christ to the best of your ability and knowledge and end up in hell anyway because you didn’t do something correctly, I think that’s a very good reason to re-examine what you follow and why and how you are following it. My personal belief is it’s just fine to live a Christ-like life, but so few people do it, and the judgement and hatred is just awful.

          • PK Hodges

            Hi Ronald, We’re in a day of huge deception. The Lord Jesus is coming so soon. In fact, He’s on His way, and He’s almost here. Did you know that when we walk in the spirit (by faith in Him and in His Word) and not by our five senses, we are in Him, and in Him there is no sin. (1 John 3:4-6)This is what really set me free. Walking by faith (decision, from the heart) and not by sight. It’s just so simple that most people trip over it. It’s not always easy. Faith is a fight. But I wouldn’t trade the Jesus I know for anything this ol’ world has to offer. Nothing compares to Him. Nothing compares…nothing compares..to Him…Yep, this is the time to reexamine and make a choice: the Way of life or the Way of death. There’s no grey areas here where the world followers see grey. Just one right way: Jesus, and one wrong way: SELFIE.

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            “My personal belief is it’s just fine to live a Christ-like life, but so few people do it, and the judgement and hatred is just awful.”

            So would Christ sanction the keeping of pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter? Would Christ lead the way in allowing two men to marry? Would he give the OK to the murder of innocent babies? Would He say “sure, go ahead” to the multitude of prescription sorceries that are available at your local pharmacy? Rome, the self professed church of God, lays claim to all of these…yet none are found to be approved by God at all.

          • Ronald Carter

            I’m not Christ, but I don’t see any reason why He would have any problem with a holiday like Christmas or Easter (which are not pagan, by the way). “Innocent babies”? No of course not, but I don’t think you mean to say babies at all but rather “fetuses”. You ARE talking about abortion, correct? Then babies is the wrong word to use.

            Would he say yes to prescription drugs? Of course, why on earth would he be opposed to them?

          • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

            Christmas and Easter are fully pagan, admitted by Rome themselves…

            Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the “The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; HOLYDAYS and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, …the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison, are all of PAGAN ORIGIN, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church. {374}” -An Essay on the The Development of the Christian Doctrine John Henry “Cardinal Newman” p.359 (Also see According to Dr. E. D. Clarke, Travels, vol. i. p. 352.)

            “The [Catholic] Church took the pagan philosophy and made it the buckler of faith against the heathen. She took the pagan Roman Pantheon, temple of all the gods, and made it sacred to all the martyrs; so it stands to this day. She took the pagan Sunday and made it the Christian Sunday. She took the pagan Easter and made it the feast we celebrate during this season . . . The Sun was a foremost god with heathendom . . . The sun has worshipers at this hour in Persia and other lands . . . Hence the Church would seem to say, ‘Keep that old pagan name [Sunday]. It shall remain consecrated, sanctified.’ And thus the pagan Sunday, dedicated to Balder, became the Christian Sunday, sacred to Jesus”–William L. Gildea, “Paschale Gaudium,” in The Catholic World, 58, March, 1894, p. 809 [A Roman Catholic weekly].

            Yeah I know…propaganda, conspiracy theory, fundie nutcrackery…call it what you want. Not my statement. I simply quoted it.

            Life begins at conception.

            Jesus is fully opposed to Babylon’s sorceries.

            Revelation 18:23, “And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.”

            As you read into this passage you will find it is speaking of the Antichrist and his destructive methods upon the people of the world so as to harm as well as control. Notice the word “sorceries” in this passage and how the Word says Antichrist will use it to keep “all nations deceived.” Now notice if you will the definition of the word “sorceries” as it is found in the Strong’s Concordance.

            5331 pharmakeia
            {far-mak-i’-ah} from 5332;; n f

            AV – sorcery 2, witchcraft 1; 3

            1) the use or the administering of DRUGS
            2) poisoning
            3) sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
            4) metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry

            Jesus would have rather said…

            Revelation 22:2, “In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the LEAVES OF THE TREE were for the healing of the nations.”

          • Jill Sawyer

            God doesn’t do anything but give a person their wish….God is a gentleman and gave us FREE WILL so if a person chooses to not follow Jesus and accept him as your personal Lord and Savior then yes God will give you your wish and let you spend eternity in hell…that isn’t being hateful but truthful… There is more to being saved than just believing….I’m going to tell you something Ronald and you honestly better pay attention to this…..just believing will not get you to heaven….Satan and his demons believe and TREMBLE at Gods name….The plan of salvation is to believe that Jesus Christ died on that cross for you and to accept him into your heart and make Him Lord of your life…..the next step is to completely repent of your sins and turn away from sin…..next step is to be baptized (total immersion) in Jesus name and then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit….since you have the Internet go to the site of bible hub dot com and read the book of acts….the book of acts is the book of salvation… Make sure to read the King James Version….another thing you need to be aware of is that no the Protestant sector does not baptize infants….those that are part of the Catholic teachings do such as the Lutheran churches…there is no difference in those 2

          • Ronald Carter

            I elect not to believe any of that, thanks.

          • Jill Sawyer

            READ your bible! If you don’t want to believe it then don’t but I will call you out on the truth and the mess you are posting are all lies…

          • Ronald Carter

            It’s not a lie to disbelieve the words of the Bible, Jill.

        • Bob Jones

          P.K.,

          What you wrote is so true of me also. It is so easy to get caught up in the world and it’s issues. Thank you for this post.

      • Coach

        You have no idea what a Christian is.

        • Ronald Carter

          I sure see some terrible examples around here.

          • Coach

            What is an example of what a Christian should be? Be honest if you have no idea

          • Ronald Carter

            Loving, kind, compassionate, non-judgmental, sympathetic, humble.

          • Coach

            13 Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14 You are My friends if you do whatever I command you.
            Jesus’ followers are loving because we are loved by Him. We show the greatest love by speaking His truth. If I twisted the gospel and said “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for you life” that would be hatred, but love speaks truth as God commands all to repent and believe on Jesus.

            Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that His hour had come that He should depart from this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end. John 13:1

            Luke 6:35 But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil.
            God’s kindness is shown to all. Believer’s represent kindness in helping those in need, not so we can be praised by men, but so God is glorified.

            For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” Romans 9:15
            We show compassion in forgiving someone who’s wronged us.
            Sympathy is expressed in our grievance for the sin in our world, we grieve as God is grieved.

            Humble, yes we submit to our sovereign God.

            As for non-judgmental, that has nothing to do with Christianity, for we are to judge rightly

            Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”John 7:24

          • Ronald Carter

            “If I twisted the gospel and said “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for you life” that would be hatred”

            Why would it be hatred? And why would it be twisting the gospel? That would be a very nice sentiment to give to someone.

            “Believer’s represent kindness in helping those in need, not so we can be praised by men, but so God is glorified.”

            So if you helped a man on the side of the road who’d been hit by a car, it wouldn’t mean anything to receive his thanks because you were doing it for God?

            “We show compassion in forgiving someone who’s wronged us.”

            I’m not a Christian and I show compassion the same way, and I also show compassion by helping someone who’s been hurt or needs to talk. And I expect nothing in return.

            “Humble, yes we submit to our sovereign God.”

            Humility also means admitting you’re wrong. Being a Christian isn’t a guarantee of being right all the time.

            “As for non-judgmental, that has nothing to do with Christianity, for we are to judge rightly”

            The problem is so many Christians don’t judge rightly, they judge self-righteously.

          • Coach

            The gospel starts with the nature of God, the sentiment as you call it of “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life” is used by hypocrites who speak of a god they create in their minds, who’s there to fulfill a person’s dreams.
            God is love and if you don’t truly know God, you don’t truly know God. God didn’t become love, He just is. God has no need, He’s not standing there hoping to make sinners like Him, He’s holy and has compassion on whomever He wants.
            Many pastors will say Jesus is hoping you’ll give Him a chance, that’s a lie. When God saves a person, He gives them a new nature.
            Salvation is a work of God in-which, a person’s mind is changed about sin, about righteousness, and a change of action follows.
            God commands all to repent and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, which means good news, but most have a shallow understanding of this, hence the words of Christ “narrow is the gate and difficult the way that leads to life, few there be that find it.
            Original Webster’s definition-The history of the birth, life, actions, death, resurrection, ascension and doctrines of Jesus Christ; or a revelation of the grace of God to fallen man through a mediator, including the character, actions, and doctrines of Christ, with the whole scheme of salvation, as revealed by Christ and his apostles.
            Many judge self-righteously, I agree, but consider the fact that you are a self proclaimed compassionate person, hypocrisy.
            Everything starts with God, so you could spend your whole life in humanitarian aid, give the shirt off your back and the only thing that will serve to do for you on judgement day, is add to your eternal condemnation.
            The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge and you suppose that you’re off the hook because you see no difference between yourself and Christians, wrong.
            No Christians aren’t perfectly. sinless and must admit when we’re wrong.
            Again, humility starts with God, if we do anything apart from faith in Him, it’s rooted in pride and idolatry.
            Your issue with God is not merely that you’ve sinned against Him, it’s that all you’ve ever done is sin, not a single good dead.
            It is written “our good works are as filthy rags”, so the nicest thing you’ve ever done is heavily tainted by sin.
            You have no merit before God, who gives you life and breath and could take it away in an instant.

          • YsH

            I will be direct, still long. I apologize for this. I don’t want it to be in a way you dislike me, but I would like to share with you what I think.
            I think that you are right saying that “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life” would give a very nice sentiment to someone.
            I think that is correct for me to tell to all people that “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life”. I think that I have to say that, because I don’t know for sure who is really a child of God (I think that I can say that one’s life proves more or less that he is a child of God or not and that is because I don’t have full knowledge of one’s life and I do not have full knowledge and understanding of what really means that one is truly a child of God in such a way to say for sure that one is a child of God or not.

            I also think that giving a very nice sentiment to someone is not right (sometimes) if they only get a nice feeling, but in the same time a wrong message (and I am aware of that) – this will not be love, but hatred; if I love, I will want both:nice sentiment and not wrong message.
            Usually, what is wanted to be avoided (and what I think that preachers want to avoid) it is not to give to the other a nice feeling(because this is not bad in itself; if I will want only to not help generating the nice feeling, then I think that it will be something bad – sin),but it is the message that God loves him/her and He is not disturbed by the sins of this person or he/she may be led to think that can freely sin and in the same time being conscious that God hates sin. And he/she can live careless in what he/she thinks that is right and good, thinking that his/her life is right and good for sure (without being interested in the truth of what is right and good; truth which is revealed in the Scriptures), without true and visible love for God and seeking from the heart to please Him, without the desire to grow in anything which God says that is good (like wisdom, knowledge, holiness, love and so on). Or even worse. But if I ask “Why do they understand it wrong?” I say that I don’t know, I am not so sure about it. There may be many reasons.Still, I think that through “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life” no person should get the wrong ideas from above – these ideas may have had from before and by their thinking they do wrong associations.

            “God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life” is a truth for the children of God. And I think that the wonderful plan of His can be understood more and more and lived. Same for His love. And even those who are not children of God receive good from Him.

            I think that there is a difference between the situation when I seek to be praised by men(my heart is involved – is something which I desire) and the situation when one is thanking me(my heart is not involved – he is doing the action and this does not suppose that my heart want that thanks). The fact that one is thanking me is not bad in itself and I may be in most of cases glad that he thanked me – and I don’t think this is bad; but I do not seek thanks or even more (praises). I must seek to glorify God and the others(praises, thanks) may come or may not come – I must not desire or think much on them.

            Regard to compassion, I don’t understand why Coach said what he said, nor you. It is true that God gives grace to all people and because of that even those who are not Christian can show compassion and have other virtues and think correct many times and do good things etc. And all people to different levels.So, praise God!

            In regard to what mean to be humble and that being a Christian isn’t a guarantee of being right all the time, I am very in accord with. Same with the affirmation that “so many Christians don’t judge rightly”.

          • Federick Ball

            Do you think others who are not Christian could possibly have these same charateristics?

          • JJJ4J

            Tell me then, in what way was it loving, kind, compassionate, non-judgmental (despite Jesus telling us to make a right judgment – John 7:24), sympathetic and humble when Jesus was asked the following and His response to what the person thought of His answer: “Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.” “Which ones?” he inquired. Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’” “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?” Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”” Matthew 19:16-26 Some people want us to be nicer than God to forget He is also Judge, He is also Truth, He is also Justice, as well as Righteousness, Grace and Mercy. They fear that if they acknowledge that God will judge them one day then maybe they will be judged too so “let’s not judge” is the cri de coeur!

          • JJJ4J

            Then may I suggest you remove the blinkers (blinders for you Americans) and read again the comments, we are people who love the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth with all our hearts, minds, strength and souls. He is the only Way, the only Truth, the only Life and there is no other way to have a relationship with the Father. Jesus is the Word of God and He has arranged for all His Bride to have the written word and His Holy Spirit to enable us to interpret it. If we are terrible examples then so be it, fortunately, our heavenly Father thinks otherwise. There are no ‘grey areas’ in Christ’s doctrines, there is just Truth.

      • JJJ4J

        We are talking about those who ‘claim’ to be Christians but who would not know Jesus if He tapped them on the shoulder. They go to church every Sunday but I could stand in my garage for a couple of hours every Sunday but it will not make in a car!

    • tsisageya 1

      Amen, PK Hodges! I can’t find a thing in your comment to argue with.Thank you for reminding me about prayer. I agree with everything you said.

    • JJJ4J

      I so agree with you – “there are grey areas”!? Not in my Bible there are not!

  • Lance Hillyer

    Maybe when the Roman Catholic Church renounces the anathema in the Council of Trent regarding justification by faith alone according to Scripture, we might begin to get somewhere. This is all about evangelism from the Roman Catholic Church, not for the Gospel itself but to seek to entrap those who’ve been set free by the Son of God

  • bowie1

    Is this for Jesus or “Hail Mary, full of grace?”

  • Becky

    This is not from God Almighty. The only way “unity” will happen in this case is if one side is willing to stifle their beliefs. Hmm, who shall it be? The so-called Christians, of course. The pagan RCC is in it to win it…that is…win the “Christians” over. And, they will do it…the easy way or the hard way.

    Want to know God’s word? Want to know God’s truth? Then read his word…from front to back. Once you’ve read it completely, read it again…from front to back…for the rest of your life. Don’t reference anything. Don’t ask anyone questions. It’s just you and God Almighty through Christ, alone. Go.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Unity is impossible for the sake of the purity of Christian teachings. Sound doctrines are more important than peace or unity. (Galatians ch. 1-2, Revelation ch.2-3) All moral people can work and fight together for the life of unwanted children in wombs and for morality in sexual matters, but no worship or praying together. The Catholics are better than the Mainliners, but they need sound Biblical doctrines. Every able Christian must read the entire Holy Bible directly.

    • TheBottomline4This

      I disagree on one point. The catholics are not “better” than the mainliners. They’re just the same.
      You are right in saying unity is impossible for the purity of Christian teachings.
      All of this “unity” stuff is just leading toward the one world religion, which no true Bible believing Christian will get near.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        The Catholic leadership hasn’t endorsed homosexuality, but many mainliners’ leaderships have. Female ordination is a cancer to Christendom. Right, no unity unless the main doctrines are right in accordance with the plain teachings of the Holy Bible.

        • TheBottomline4This

          The catholics haven’t publicly endorsed it. Many priests are gay, “quietly” of course.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Impossible. Catholic priests and nuns vow lifetime celibacy and chastity. Some criminals are in every group, but not all members are criminals. In the mainline social clubs, the leaders have endorsed the abhorrence openly.

          • TheBottomline4This

            Think what you want. I never said all were, but there are many. I was a catholic for over 20 yrs.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Many? Something must be done to settle and prevent crimes, then.

  • http://HisPlaceDanville.com Stephen Anderson

    Those who stand with the Pope have betrayed the Gospel, the Reformation and all those martyred by Rome. Modern evangelicalism no longer knows what the Gospel is. Rome does not change, she simply changes tactics.

    • Bill731

      Absolutely.

  • TheBottomline4This

    The one-world religion described in Revelation 17:1–18 as “the great harlot” will be part of the end-times scenario. The term harlot is used throughout the Old Testament as a metaphor for false religion. Some sort of one-world religion under the false prophet will be a part of the end times, perhaps made up of a number of different religions, sects, and isms that are around today. Revelation 17:1–18 gives us several characteristics of the one-world religion. The false religion will dominate all the “peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues” of the earth (Revelation 1b, 15), meaning that it will have universal authority, no doubt given by the Antichrist, who rules the world at that time. Verses 2–3 describe the harlot as committing adultery with the “kings of the earth,” referring to the false religion’s influence among the world’s rulers and influential people. The reference to being drunk with the wine of her adulteries may refer to those who are drunk with the power they receive from worshiping the false god of the false religion. Satan frequently ensnares those whose lust for power drives them away from the worship of the true and living God. The alliances forged by the false religion will unite church and state as never before.

  • Maryvoneiff

    This is such a hot harlot mess on so many levels. Stay away and mark them. You are either with Hod or against Him. Gender on is correct. Jesus invites all but came to divide with HIS truth. Start reading your bibles and be like the Bereans or will BE deceived.

  • Ax2root

    Does this mean the Catholic’s will throw out their catechism stating that INFANTS become born again in the family of God BY INFANT BAPTISM…and not faith?

  • Reason2012

    “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.”
    Romans 16:17-18

    Catholicism is a false religion of deception. They “Jesus” they claim to worship is not the Jesus of the Bible.

  • Reason2012

    “[Jesus said] Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”
    Matthew 7:13-15

    False Christians will LOOK like Christians, they’ll TALK like Christians, they’ll read the Bible like Christians, they’ll ACT like Christians. But as soon as they start teaching anti-Biblical claims as God’s truth instead, you know they are “wolves in sheeps clothing”.

    People get deceived into thinking just because a person looks/ talks/ acts like a Christian they must be one.

  • Josey

    Gendron is right, the gospel of Christ does divide, it makes a very clear distinction on how one gets to Heaven and that Jesus Christ is the Only Truth, LIfe and Way to the Father. There is no confusion in that, it’s simple and is one road. You cannot get there by being good apart from Christ our best works are filthy rags, one must be born again by the Spirit of God, the old heart taken out and the new heart after God put in, this is the work the Holy Spirit alone can do in a person. It’s all in the Bible and God does not change. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever! Cultures change in this world, things are always changing but Christ Jesus is a sure foundation, A Rock, a Mighty Fortress, those who build their house upon Christ Jesus the Rock will stand forever. Jesus Christ is God! When you’ve seen Jesus, you have seen the Father. Glory to His name forever!

    • Chrissy Vee

      Amen!

  • Chrissy Vee

    “Worship leader, Matt Maher, who identifies as a Roman Catholic, has outlined at other ecumenical events that he believes it is his calling to work toward to the unification of Christians and Catholics.
    At least this man stated a truth, that Catholics are not Christians. It is more a unification of false teachers, false converts and heretic Catholics. Dear Lord, what an unholy union! Is this the grand delusion? Are people really so easily deceived? May God’s Holy Spirit descend upon this event in judgment. Marantha! o/

    • Ronald Carter

      That’s just the spin this particular writer has chosen to put on this story. It would have been more accurate to say “Catholic Christians and non-Catholic Christians”. All are Christians, Chrissy. Do you own a dictionary? Look it up.

  • faithful one

    I live in a small town that is completely Catholic and believe me Catholics are not saved, they teach another gospel and teach about another jesus…we need to pray for them and preach the true gospel of Jesus Christ to them, but not join hands with them, absolutely not! I have been speaking with them online and have been called a heretic and other nasties, just for quoting scriptures and talking about being saved by grace thru faith. This event will give them false assurance (unless the true gospel is preached clearly) and confuse the evangelicals that are not familiar with the CC dogma and the Reformation history of slaughter. I am trusting in the Lord and Romans 8:28, Martin Luther would be in disbelief.

  • Jill Sawyer

    The pope is a MAN and there is NOTHING “holy” about him….Jesus aka God is HOLY…..no man is holy for we all are born sinners….another thing that is different in regards to what the bible says that is different from what the catholics believe and do is that the bible states water baptism by immersion and the catholics sprinkle….the book of Acts is the book of salvation which the catholic church does NOT utilize….we are NOT to pray to the dead and that is biblical and the catholics do pray to the dead when they pray the rosary…..the catholics say that there are 3 different people but in the bible there is ONE and it states this clearly that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are ONE person…..and the pope is saying that the quran is the same as the bible…that is heresy in itself as well….this pope and every pope before him have all been MEN and not diety such as God is….and this man is also saying that there are many paths to heaven and the bible clearly states that Jesus is THE ONLY WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE AND NO MAN GETS TO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM….the catholics have many idols they bow to and have, and the 1st commandment is that God commands that thou shalt have no other “gods” before them…..there are many other differences I could name but I will stop here…Im sure I have already stepped on toes….have a good day! and God bless

  • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

    Just look at the official together 2016 website – rock music and dancing! Is this the image of Christ? No. This just appeals to the flesh so that Satan can draw many under his banner!

    The evangelical churches of America are uniting with their ‘mother’ Babylon the Great, and there is a revival beginning to happen in America, but it is not from God. This revival is a false one that Satan will use to unite the churches and religions under the pope and the Roman Catholic Church. And it will end up in the creation of the IMAGE OF THE BEAST (uniting of church and state) in America.

  • Randy kyzer

    I really don’t trust this group, The Hillsong United. They may be just as evil as the pope. Especially when they call him holiness. They don’t understand what God is going to do. Our time is short, That group may have started out ok but I think they have lost their way.

  • http://dedicatedfaith.org/ David

    “‘We’ve never seen a unified church before in the history of the church since the Reformation. We don’t even know what it looks like,’ he said at OneThing 2015. ‘I think what the work of unity starts with [is]: It starts with us praying together. It starts with us fellowshiping together.'”

    This is exactly why the scripture says “have no fellowship with darkness”, because coming “together” to fellowship is exactly how you harloterize the Church!

  • david

    catholic council of trent states that if anyone claims to be saved by grace only, that person is accursed. it is still valid teaching in the catholic church.

    Ephesians 2 says we are saved by grace alone and not by good works.

    the catholic church has killed about 100 million people in crusades and inquisitions , including the killing of christians who refused to join the crusades and in the inquisitions. st bartholomew massacre killed almost 100,000 christians in one day . . imagine them, smith, palu, billy graham , telling the christian martyrs that they stood with the catholic church at the event that it was a great event standing with the pope. im sure the martyrs would have a sharp rebuke for those lukewarm leaders.

    the martyrs died because they did not bow to rome and its false teachings like sacraments, purgatory for they believed salvation in only Jesus’ payment on the cross and resurrection , nothing else. these christians where burned alive , boiled in water and oil, large spikes driven through the rectum (judas chair) , intestines pulled out while still alive.

    if you can be saved by good works, or by paying money for purgatory, or praying to mary then Jesus did not have to die on the cross. so it mocks Jesus. also the pope just said muslims worship the same god yet muslims koran says god has no son.

    Is the pope catholic?

    the catholic church has oceans of blood on their hands including the blood of many christians.

    • Ronald Carter

      Catholics don’t believe they are saved by good works. They believe in a combination of good works and grace through faith.

      The Catholic church has been around 2000 years and was a ruling body along the way and a political force as well. So of course there is death and corruption. The Catholic church then is not the Catholic church now.

      Catholics do not pray to Mary. It’s more accurate to say they ask Mary to pray for them.

      “There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The
      Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly
      perceive the Catholic Church to be.” – Fulton J. Sheen

      • Amos Moses

        Do not hate catholics ………… if you read the definition ………… WE ARE ALL catholics ……… the word simply means “universal” and Christ only has one universal church ……….. it is the RCC and “Catholics” (capitalizing it is a huge difference) are the ones saying they are not of us ………… and it is the RCC that has left the faith and teaching of Christ …………… and many of the ancient catholic churches ………. like the Greek orthodox and the Russian orthodox catholic churches say the same thing ………. and have been around just as long or longer than the RCC …………. and Sheen is hardly a credible source …….. but about as much a credible source as you ……………… Mr. Wolf ………..

        • Ronald Carter

          Fulton Sheen is precisely correct, Amos. What you hate is not what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, but what you have been falsely taught by fundamentalists that it teaches.

          • Amos Moses

            sure ………….. what ever you say ………….

      • David Webster

        Ronald, very good points! But it would be more accurate to say we are
        saved by our submissive obedience to Christ that is motivated by genuine faith,
        which is a true gift of God that FIRST must be personally acknowledged. Good
        works not motivated by genuine faith but by self interest not only do not save
        but actually condemns one. This is Biblical teaching and genuine Catholic
        doctrine and explicitly reaffirmed at Trent. Works without faith is biblically
        called self-righteousness or Phariseeism. Trent condemned “works without
        faith” in just as strong terms as so-called “faith without works,” or faith that does not, with an act of human will, produce works. Most Protestants today clearly recognize there is a faith that does not save! It’s called mere head knowledge, which does not change the heart. It is this faith that remains mere intellectual head knowledge that Trent condemned as unable to save. A study of Luther shows he believed mere head knowledge or intellectual assent to Christian doctrine was all that was needed for salvation! Personal sin was something he
        viewed as no threat to salvation. Calvin corrupted the Biblical teaching on this in another way by removing human will out of the salvation event making saving faith entirely a matter of divine will alone! “Once saved always saved” came
        out of these two diabolical errors and was the reason for Trent! Protestants,
        have been massively misled for 500 years by their religious leaders on this
        subject which is the ultimate of all the deceptions of the Evil One. . . . and
        by the way when Paul in Romans speaks of Salvation “without the work of
        the Law” in context he is speaking of the Mosaic ceremonial law not the
        moral law! This is how Tent and James agree: “Faith without works is
        dead.” Faith that does not produce submission to Christ and His teaching
        is dead! . . . it is pride and self worship and that is true Catholic and Bible
        truth.

        As you have so well pointed out Ronald, Protestants, especially evangelical
        Fundamentalists are confused (having been one myself!), have been greatly
        mislead on a great number of matters concerning the Catholic faith and that is precisely why we as Christians are losing so substantially to evil in our day. Even as most nations throughout the world, including the US, have been taken over by betrayers and enemies, so the Catholic Church System has ALSO been essentially taken over by the enemies of Christ in the last century. But that His own Church would fall into apostasy in the end times was predicted by Christ Himself:
        ” When, therefore, you shall see the Abomination of Desolation , which
        was spoken of by Daniel the prophet {Daniel 9:27}, standing in the holy place, he who reads let him understand.” (Matthew 24:15)

        And again by St. Paul:
        “Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day will not come unless
        there first comes the revolt [the apostasy], and the revealing of the Man of
        Sin, the Son of Perdition [1 Tim. 4:1; Dan.7:25; 8:25; Matt.24:15], who
        opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped,
        so that he sits in the Temple of God [the very Church of Christ, St. Peter’s!],
        showing himself as if he were God [Dan. 11:36,37; Ezek.28:2]” (2 Thess.
        2:3-4)

        That day is upon us and Francis is the False Prophet of Rev. 13 and is
        preparing the way for the AntiChrist. He is no Christian let alone a Catholic
        Christian. He is a dragon Beast, a viper, in sheep skin. For info check out the
        biblefalseprophet site.

        Finally, that being said, let me point out that The Great Whore of Babylon of
        Revelation 17-18 is plainly the monetary and commercial system of the world not any religious system! Protestant Anti-Catholics who claim to accept the
        Scriptures as their sole authority commonly ignore what is right in front of
        them. Here is a glaring example. That the Whore of Babylon is the monetary and commercial system of the world is plainly seen in the description of its fall
        in ch. 18! In John’s day it centered in Rome, the city of seven hills. For the
        last century the city of the Great Whore would be NY City AND IT IS THIS SYSTEM that has corrupted all the rulers of the world and many Christians including their church systems. including the Church Christ founded.

      • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

        “Catholics do not pray to Mary. It’s more accurate to say they ask Mary to pray for them.”

        Mary is dead in a grave. By now she is dust. She can do nothing.

  • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

    Twenty four hours and 236 comments. Not bad, Think how many thousands of clicks that represents. Think about the ad revenue generated by them. Then ask yourself: are we being played as fools to line their pockets? Have you ever noticed how many of their ads target your browsing history? Is this a ministry or a business? What do they do with all that money?

    This site tolerates the vilest and most acrimonious discussions but will probably delete this post because they won’t allow any criticism directed at them to survive. They’ll say this comment is off-topic but when is the topic their own finances? Hypocrites.

    • Ronald Carter

      I completely agree. Any time Catholicism is brought up in these discussions it turns into a bloodbath.

    • Amos Moses

      Well 12 hours and you are still here ………………… and the only hypocrite i see is the one here crying about hypocrites and if they are making any money ………. like Google does not make money …….. or just about any other web site ……….. and in case you were not aware …….. pretty much ALL of them have “their ads target your browsing history” ………. so thanks for the incredibly obvious observations …………. next time the MERELY obvious will do ……

      • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

        It was really aimed at the people making the money. It ought to be more than obvious to anyone visiting the site, but few people think about how these flaming contests increase their revenue. I really believe they encourage controversy. I’ve seen them run “news” stories about Catholic doctrines that are centuries old just to fire up the anti-Catholics.

        I have always respected your comments but this snarky attitude is really beneath you. Let’s not devour one another, OK?

        • Amos Moses

          We are good brother …….

          • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

            That does my heart good. I look forward to more of your excellent posts. God bless you.

      • http://verbus.dreamhosters.com OneBreadOneBody

        I waited two weeks to reply to this post since I did not want to react in the heat of the moment. I have up-voted you numerous times because you brought a degree of civility and level-headedness to the discussion, even when I did not always agree.

        Either someone has hijacked you account, or you have lost track of your senses. I’ll assume that this was an isolated outburst and let it go at that.

        • Amos Moses

          Who said i ever had any sense ……….. i want names ………..

          Ok sure ……….. isolated …….. i just get my tighty whites in a bunch once in a while ……. mea culpa ……….

  • Amos Moses

    Petrus Romanus To Stand Before Obelisk, Address DC Christian Gathering “Together 2016”. No Word Yet On Whether Hillsong’s Dancing Naked Cowboy Youth Pastor Will Appear And Gyrate On Stage

  • 348wby

    What if they just setting up another muzloid murder spree.

  • Mother of Two Sons

    Let’s just agree these are perilous times — Hillsong College changed their code of conduct to remove homosexuality as a breach of Christian behavior so as to be more “inclusive”– we need to be living out our Christian morality not lowering the moral standards— and minister to the “lost”. There is a move to infiltrate and diminish the Christian Church — evidence everywhere that many are unclear about God’s Laws…..Discernment of Spirits is critical, inside and outside the Catholic/Christian Body of Christ. Personally, I find myself clinging to God more and more…. I am quite disturbed by the ease of the falling away that is going on right now — it breaks my heart!

  • Racquel Morr

    Rev 14: 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

    7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

    9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

    10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

    11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

    We are there.

  • Spirit of Christ

    Bergoglio is the false prophet. He violated cannon and conclave laws when he conspired with the Vatican gay mafia to remove Pope Benedict from papal office. Nothing but corruption of the Gospel and 10 commandments out of Bergoglio’s evil mouth since he falsely assumed power of papal office.

  • Alleged Comment

    The Catholic church is a PAGAN “Christian” church. No Christian church should accept Catholics if they do they are also PAGANS.

  • Jennifer

    Why is the pope being referred to as “His Holiness”. The pope is not holy. This pope is in conjunction with the anti-christ spirit. People are being deceived in mass numbers and do not even realize it. The only Holy One is Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. The apostasy in this country is great. We need a revival of the church. Where the Holy Spirit reigns! This pope has openly blasphemed and discredited Jesus.
    This is what the pope said in September of 2015 “we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus Christ and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross.”
    The bible clearly says in – 1 John 4:1-6 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the anti-christ, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them.”

    I pray for the spiritual condition of America and these so called artists. That they wake up before it is too late. That everyone wakes up before it is too late. My heart aches for the 50 people who were murdered last night in Orlando because where will they spend eternity? Who knows? Those are souls that could have been ministered to! I pray that people wake up and turn and incline their hearts to the One True God Jesus.

  • Stephen Korsman

    Slowly Christians of all types are coming to see that most of their differences are minor at best, and misunderstandings at worst. Jesus prayed for unity, and this is an answer to our prays for unity today.

  • Roxene Kimes

    A feel good event designed to push even harder for us to align with self and opinion and push us even further from the absolutes that set in place both right AND wrong. This is a repulsion of doctrine and law and thus defies belief in a God that requires us to rightly divide. There is a requirement. Grace cannot be constantly pushed into the future. Salvation IS time relevant and relevant to the Revelations given to us by the book of the same name.

  • Seniorsquadldr

    Catholics are not Christians, they are another religion, just as Judaism and Islam are other religions. The pope is a sinner in need of salvation. Mark 1:15 “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel”. John 3:7 “Marvel not that I said unto thee, ye must be born again”. There is no salvation in religion. Religions are the creation of Beelzebub.

  • Bill731

    What kind of Christian would seriously consider what Kanye West does to be ” gospel “?

  • Bill731

    I am disappointed in a lot of the Christians participating in this event. I have loved them, been edified and blessed by their ministries or their music but I will not follow them ” back home to Rome ” to Mystery Babylon. This is where we part ways.

    • David Webster

      I would agree strongly with you that no true Christian should have anything to do with Francis, but not because he leads you back to Rome but because he will lead many to a new false world religion and into an allegiance to a false Messiah that is a diabolical perversion of Christianity.

  • nochipforme

    Commenting Guidelines…Does this include clearly declaring the truth regarding the blasphemy of this movement and exposing the deception that is taking place here? I am just asking a question, since I noticed that “Christian News” does not tolerate “Blasphemy.”

  • nochipforme

    Fill Them All?

  • PrayerBurden

    Finding common grounds of unity is always a good thing. You can never begin to see truth revealed until you can meet in peace. Just MO of course. The left is united in their agenda, meanwhile the Body of Christ is at war with themselves. I believe THAT is why the enemy appears to hold authority in high places.

    • Nathan Huggins

      “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24
      They may be united, but it surely isn’t principles that are Bible based which is the truth that Jesus said must take place in order to worship the Father.

  • Tim

    I believe prophecy is being fulfilled before our very eyes.
    This was written over 100 years ago by a lady with the gift of prophesy and it seemed impossible.

    Through the two great errors, the immortality of the soul and Sunday sacredness, Satan will bring the people under his deceptions. While the former lays the foundation of Spiritualism, the latter creates a bond of sympathy with Rome. The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience.—The Great Controversy, 588. – {ChS 160.1}

    When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with Spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and Republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan, and that the end is near.—Testimonies for the Church 5:451. – {ChS 160.4}

    • http://www.remnantofgod.org/ John1429dotorg

      I am not SDA but I have read Ellen White’s conflict of ages series, from Patriarchs and Prophets to Great Controversy. A blessing these books are, no doubt. Truly they are inspired by the Most High God. Its unfortunate that the General Conference has become a disaster and Ted Wilson is taking the SDA body of believers downhill fast. There are even some Sunday keeping SDA churches and some have embraced the transgender movement. The pioneers would not be pleased with what they are seeing now, but then again, neither would any of the disciples or apostles.

  • Corey Waters

    As I read the comments you clearly see what the Bible means by the separating of the two. You clearly see that you have a false doctrine and and true doctrine. You study what a Jesuit is and find out more what is really going on. Find out what the Sabbath is and how the Catholic church has changed that. You will clearly see that the Pope is the Antichrist the Bible refers to in Daniel and Revelation. There is no denying it. The Papacy is the system that the world marvels over. This is only a sign that this world is coming to its end. You will have millions gathered together to embrace the Antichrist. We are to unite with the truth and this is not the truth. The Bible says the gateways to hell is wide but the path to Heaven is narrow. Meaning alot of people will fall for the false christianity presented in hopes to unite. There will only be two classes those who serve God and love Him by keeping His commandments and those who listen to the false commandments of mankind. I pray that everybody gets in there Bible and really studies this.

  • JJJ4J

    I know one place where we most definitely will not be all together and I am most surprised to read of some who will be there. The remnant decreases with each passing day.