Australian Man, Homosexual Lover Extradited on Charges of Raping 10-Month-Old Baby

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SYDNEY — An Australian man and his homosexual lover have been extradited on charges that they raped the man’s 10-month-old daughter and uploaded inappropriate photos of the child while the mother was away for three hours.

The men, whose names have not yet been released, were extradited from Melbourne to Sydney on Tuesday on charges that they both sexually abused the baby in April 2015.

According to the Sydney Morning Herald, the men traveled from their home in Melbourne to Sydney last year to babysit the child while the mother was away at a training course. One of the men is the father of the girl, but is no longer in a relationship with the mother.

The mother was not aware that during the three hours that she was away, the men raped the child repeatedly and allegedly took photographs of her private parts.

Police state that one of the men told an associate about their plans via Skype, writing, “[The father] and I will have time on our own with her. Incest turns me on so much.”

He also notified the associate after the rape, “We did not have enough time to do everything that we wanted to unfortunately.”

After police had raided the home of one of the men’s associates this past March, computer evidence led them to the two men, where officers found photos of the baby, as well as the aforementioned Skype conversations.

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Detective Chief Inspector Peter Yeomans from the NSW State Crime Command’s Child Abuse Squad, told reporters on Thursday that he found the crime to be abhorrent.

“The sexual assault or alleged sexual assault of a ten-month-old child is beyond belief,” he stated.

The father of the baby has been charged with two counts of sexual intercourse with a child under ten years of age, and is also facing charges related to the production, possession and transmission of child pornography.

His partner has likewise been charged with having sexual intercourse with a child under ten years of age, inciting sexual abuse, and producing, possessing and sharing child pornography.

They have both been denied bail and will appear in court on Tuesday. Video footage shows the men being led away handcuffed and placed in a police van.


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  • Royal Rican Prince

    This is sick, Sick, SIck, SICK!!!!! They should both be beaten & raped into a coma. May Jesus forgive me for thinking, feeling, saying and posting this!!!! 🙁

    • Goosoid

      “They should both be beaten & raped into a coma” – Yes, that is surely what Jesus would have done.

      • Nidalap

        Just couldn’t help yourself could you? Even on THIS story…

      • Charles

        Well.. Here’s what Jesus says about it.

        Mat 18:6 MKJV
        (6) But whoever shall offend one of these little ones who believes in Me, it would be better for him that an ass’s millstone were hung around his neck, and he be sunk in the depth of the sea.

        I’m going to say this is worse…

  • ComeOnPeople!

    This is why many say that any sexual activity that departs from what God made between a husband and wife is a perversion . Perversions feed off of one another which studies on pornography have proven. One perversion leads to another many times especially in regards to those steeped in porn. Soft Porn is the in-drug that leads to the most dangerous forms of pornography and perversions of Gods design. To say any departure from HIS Created design is safe or ok is to not love or care about those who have been deceived and are held captive by their own lusts. Eventually that departure brings forth destruction to those who are caught up in it’s deception. My heart is grieving for those men but even more so for that little innocent life that will suffer for the rest of her life because society fails to see the danger of promoting perversions of God’s design.

    • Chet

      Any sexual relations beyond the boundary of marriage, and that, is, the union of male and female before God Almighty, is SIN, period… No excuses, no getting by with Holy God…

  • Michael C

    No prison sentence is long enough for these two.

    I recognize that the purpose of this article is to attempt to portray gay men as horrific predators and threats to children.

    In related news;

    Daniel and Savilla Stoltzfus, a couple from Feasterville, PA, were recently charged with “gifting” their 14 year old daughter to a child rapist. The recently rescued girl, now 18, has two children father from the rapist.

    Gloria Maravilla and Alfredo Casimiro of Pasco, WA have been accused of jointly raping the woman’s daughter for two years, starting at the age of twelve.

    April Jones and Antavis Thornton, an Alabama couple, were recently sentenced to 30 years each for raping the woman’s five year old daughter.

    • TruthiNLove

      I think your view is a little narrow. How about another side of the “coin” here. Perhaps the point could be that the media seems singularly incapable of reporting any “negative” news about gays whatsoever, so this article is simply reporting HORRIBLE news that relates to gays, that would NEVER be reported in mainstream media. This isn’t an attack on gays, this is just somewhat of a rebuttal of sorts saying: “believe it or not, gays are not perfect like the media portrays, they’re not always the victim and yes they actually do wrong just like everyone else”. No one ever denies “non gays” do wrong things, after all we are the VAST majority of people, so I am not sure why you posted as if to say “non gays go bad things too”. This article is about “everyone is broken and needs Jesus, whether they are straight or gay, because we are all born sinners and thus capable of sin”.

      • Michael C

        If I’m understanding your comment correctly, you’re postulating that this Christian website published this article because they were concerned that their readership had an unrealistically positive view of gay men and women?

        Cool theory.

      • SFBruce

        I completely disagree that this article’s theme is “everyone is broken,” since the only individuals the article deals with are these two men who allegedly committed this horrendous crime. But many, if not most, conservative Christians don’t share your view that being gay is compatible with being a Christian or with living a moral life. The article fails to point out that the fact that these two men apparently identify as gay is unusual, since gay men and pedophiles are generally different populations. Many pedophiles have no sexual interest in adults of either sex.

      • james blue

        Well this is an Australian story so not likely to be covered by many American news outlets. Googling the story it wasn’t covered by many outlets at all other than Australian and a couple of online UK versions of print news. However a quick google search produced “mainstream media” reports of child molestation involving men and male children.

        Have you ever read an article about pedophilia where the pedophile was labelled “Heterosexual” either in a headline or in the report? I cannot recall such ever happening, yet “homosexual” is heavily emphasized in this article

        • meamsane

          The emphasis is not on these two men being Homosexual. It is only mentioned once at the beginning of the article.

          The emphasis is on the fact that they sexually assaulted and raped a 10-month old infant.

          No one emphasizes their homosexuality more than homosexuals themselves. They wanted to be recognized, so why complain about it now that they are being recognized?

          • james blue

            It’s in the headline and states it at the start of the article.

            Have you ever read an article about pedophilia where the pedophile was
            labelled “Heterosexual” either in a headline or in the report? I cannot
            recall such ever happening,
            The scumbags didn’t do it because they are gay, this is not a homosexual act, it is a pedophilia act.

          • meamsane

            Maybe Heterosexual is not mentioned because it is and has been the norm throughout human history so there is no need!
            While homosexual is and always has been an aberration and abnormal therefore it is more noticeable!

          • james blue

            But what does it have to do with the crime?

          • meamsane

            You stated that homosexuality was the emphasis of the article. I was responding it was not.

          • james blue

            No, I said they emphasized their homosexuality, not that it was the emphasis of the article.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Then we need to fix that.

          • meamsane

            And I thought you didn’t believe in miracles!?

      • Amos Moses

        To shift blame and focus off homosexuals ………..

        • Charles

          “Damage” control…..

        • Ronald Carter

          No one is shifting blame. But let’s spread it equally. A homosexual couple raping a child isn’t worse than a straight couple doing the same thing.

    • http://www.personaltouchmaids.org/ TammyHenson

      I din’t think anything about the homosexual issue. Only thing I thought about was the sick disgusting minds of pedophiles. They just so happened to be homosexuals.

    • Mike M

      No one has to be gay to have a reprobate mind. They are EVIL.

  • Gena B

    The poor suffering of that little baby! Regardless as to their lifestyle, these two are sick and demonic to do that.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    They must be demon-possessed people. May King Jesus return soon. It’s so downright evil of the civilization to surrender the children to sexual pervs knowingly.

  • Amos Moses

    1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
    1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

  • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

    No punishment is good enough for these two! .They could have killed that baby. No words can say how I feel right now.

  • james blue

    If they did what they are accused of then they should have their hands and genitals burned off and then billed for the cost of the propane.

    • cadcoke5

      The Biblically prescribed punishment is execution.

  • Nidalap

    All perversions are logically related. This kind of thing will continue to become ever more common.
    The price to be paid for opening the door to it in the first place…

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Truth.

      Now, prepare to receive the wrath of the “tolerant” ones for speaking it.

      • Nidalap

        Such is the nature of truth-speaking in a fallen world.
        More to be feared if they started speaking positively about me! 🙂

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          I don’t have that fear for some reason. But, I do have an abundance of Stalkers For Tolerance I could let you take over. 🙂

          Looks like the Amerika as Theocracy Movement is off this year, hehe. 🙂

    • Judy

      Just say it. “LIBRULS!”

  • http://www.personaltouchmaids.org/ TammyHenson

    Why block out their faces? Show them. Let the world see them.

    • cadcoke5

      This is to protect the child. If the parents are identified, the child, would automatically known by those who know the family.

      • http://www.personaltouchmaids.org/ TammyHenson

        Duh me. I didn’t even thing about that. Idiot moment.

      • Charles

        Could still show the other guy, his “Girlfriend”?

  • Bacchus

    These animals nee to be put down permanently.

  • Mike M

    Reprobate minds?????

  • cadcoke5

    And while I am sure that many in the homosexual community will be appalled at these men’s action,,there is certainly a strong association with homosexuality and pedophilia. A pedophile is MUCH more likely to have a homosexual background. A homosexual man is MUCH more likely to have been a victim of a sexual predator himself.

    You may not be aware of this, but the hero of the gay right movement, Harvey Milk, was a known pedophile and supporter of the pedophile group NAMBLA. Pedophilia and homosexuality are VERY closely associated.

    • Ronald Carter

      I have read whole biographies of Harvey Milk and nowhere did it say anything about him being a pedophile nor a NAMBLA supporter. I don’t suppose you have sources for these claims?

      And no, there is no tie between homosexuality and pedophilia. Most pedophiles are not homosexual but heterosexual.

      • lorac odraned

        yes there is. They are both sins and perversions.

        • Ronald Carter

          Ridiculous, they are unrelated and only people stuck in oppressive religious beliefs would consider homosexuality a perversion in this day and age. Read a psychology text sometime.

          • Amos Moses

            Denial is not a river in Egypt …………

          • Ronald Carter

            I deny what is demonstrably false. I believe established science.

      • Amos Moses

        Of course you did not read it …………. who wrote them and what was their view of homosexuality …………. biased …………. absolutely ………… to the point of covering up the truth …….. and this surprises you …………. but you also have a bias toward homosexuals ………. could be you chose to ignore it ……….. but to fulfill your request ……. which you will immediately denounce as ………… whatever …….

        There is already a Harvey Milk Day in California, commemorating the life and death of this gay pioneer politician who has also been celebrated in an Academy Award winning film, but there’s more to the Harvey Milk story.

        According to the acclaimed gay journalist Randy Shilts, at age eleven, Milk began attending performances of the New York Metropolitan Opera where he met with “wandering hands,” and soon was engaged in “brief trysts [with grown men] after the performances.” While still in junior high, he “dove headfirst into the newly discovered subculture,” and by the age of fourteen, Milk was “leading an active homosexual life.” As he grew older, the pattern reversed itself to the point that, at age thirty-three, Milk hooked up with a sixteen-year-old named Jack McKinley, one of a number of younger men with whom he was intimate.

        And our kids celebrate Harvey Milk Day in their schools? Will they also celebrate the memory of Harry Hay, widely considered to be the founder of America’s gay liberation movement and another well-known friend of NAMBLA? When a gay pride parade in Los Angeles banned NAMBLA from participating, Hay decided to march in the parade carrying a sign that said, “NAMBLA walks with me.”

        • Ronald Carter

          Incorrect as usual, Amos.

          I think you would do yourself a favor right away by learning what a pedophile is. It is a child who is under the age of puberty. If you want to use a more accurate term, you could say he was an ephebophile, meaning he was attracted to adolescents.

          There was no association whatsoever between Harvey Milk and NAMBLA.

          Also, it’s quite easy to see the source from which you cut and pasted the information below (easy enough to tell when you stop writing and your source starts, since the annoying strings of periods magically stop).

          In closing, lying for Jesus is still lying.

          • Amos Moses

            Pederast …….. pedophile …… degrees without difference ………. unless you are trying to split hairs ……… Milk was 11 years old ………. so he was the victim …. and then chose to victimize others ……….. and as i said …..

            which you will immediately denounce as ………… whatever …….

            Do not have to lie about the truth ……….. as you do ……… perversion is perversion …… it knows no bounds ……. you want to play word games with childrens lives …….. we know where you stand ……

            “Also, it’s quite easy to see the source from which you cut and pasted the information below (easy enough to tell when you stop writing and your source starts, since the annoying strings of periods magically stop).”

            Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ………… SO WHAT ……………..

          • Ronald Carter

            If you’re calling Harvey Milk a pedophile, you are a liar, it’s that simple, Amos. Everything else is semantics games with you which I have no intention of playing.

          • Amos Moses

            “If you’re calling Harvey Milk a pedophile, you are a liar, it’s that simple, Amos. Everything else is semantics games with you which I have no intention of playing.”

            You just did ………… by saying there is a difference …….. when there is none …… perversion is perversion ……..

          • Ronald Carter

            There IS a difference, Amos. Just because you find certain practices equally disgusting doesn’t make them the same.

          • Amos Moses

            Statutory rape makes no distinction.

          • Ronald Carter

            I’ll bet your buddy Josh Duggar gets a free pass, though, eh?

          • Amos Moses

            One……… not my buddy ……….. Two ………… no ……… Three ………… off topic …….. and a deflection ………… Four …………. you cannot overcome that statutory rape destroys your silly argument and you have nothing left …………………

          • Ronald Carter

            Well, you absolutely lied about Harvey Milk being a pedophile (that was the word you used) and cannot back up your claim that he was involved with NAMBLA, so I think you should apologize for bearing false witness – that’s a big no-no for your kind. Lying for Jesus is still lying.

          • Amos Moses

            Did not lie about Harvey, Ronnie …………

          • Ronald Carter

            I didn’t lie, Amos. You did.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Harvey, when he was 33 had a 16 year old boyfriend. So you are right about him being a pedophile. But I guess some are so sick in their hearts to see that he is a pedophile. Some say he is a ephebophile which means he is attracted to boys aged 15-19. Very sad…………..

          • Amos Moses

            Statutory rape is statutory rape ……

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You are right.

  • lorac odraned

    Neuter them with no anesthesia!

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    Where are the loud mouths that continually bleat about the exemplary moral standards and victim status of homosexuals? Maybe they will speak up at the execution … there is going to be an execution, surely?

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    These dudes that like perverse sex like perverse sex. But they are not like the other dudes that like perverse sex but perversely dislike a particular perverse sex. The perversity of the sex of the dudes is quite coincidental to the particular perversity of sex that they like. Other people preferring perverse sex are not perverse in this particular way. This logic seems perverse.

    • Ronald Carter

      I’m very used to Christians calling homosexuals “perverse” by now. Call whatever names you’re going to call. But don’t for a second tell me that most or even some homosexuals would be ok with a horrible abusive act of rape on a defenceless baby like this.

      • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

        On a point of grammar, “pervert” is a name, which should properly be applied to those whose acts are “perverse”. Calling someone’s behavior or logic “perverse” is not name calling.

    • Amos Moses

      Ummmmmmmmmmmm ……………….. yeah ……..

  • Amos Moses

    Depression Research and Treatment
    Volume 2016 (2016), Article ID 2410392, 8 pages

    Research Article
    Invisible Victims: Delayed Onset Depression among Adults with Same-Sex Parents
    D. Paul Sullins
    Department of Sociology, The Catholic University of America, Washington, DC 20064, USA

    Received 5 February 2016; Revised 30 March 2016; Accepted 19 April 2016

    Academic Editor: Martin Alda

    Copyright © 2016 D. Paul Sullins. This is an open access article distributed under the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.

    Being more than twice as likely (2.25 times) to suffer depression.Sullins found that depression surged among children of same-sex parents from 18% in adolescence to a shocking 51% (one in every two!) by the time those children become adults. In contrast, depression among children with opposite-sex parents actually decreased in adulthood, dropping 22% in adolescence to 20% in adulthood.

    Having higher rates of anxiety and three times as many suicidal thoughts.
    Higher rates of obesity: Whereas 31% of children of opposite-sex parents became obese in young adulthood, a whopping 72% of children from same-sex households became obese in adulthood.

    Higher rates of social stigma: The higher rates of obesity could have contributed to perceptions of social stigma — of nearly 37% among children of same-sex parents, compared with 7% among other young people. Both obesity and stigma have known associations with depression.

    Higher rates of feeling distant from one or both parents.

    Higher proportions of them experienced parental abuse: 90% (at Wave III) and 85% (at Wave IV) of young adults with same-sex parents reported childhood abuse by their parents. The types of abuse ranged from forced sexual activity and hitting to verbal and emotional abuse. 80% of the childhood abuse reported by children of same-sex parents was in the form of verbal and emotional abuse.

  • ComeOnPeople!

    You missed the point. Anything that strays from what GOD designed is a perversion and it breads perversion. Sex is a powerful force and if it is used not as it was intended to be between a husband and wife, it takes a person deeper and deeper into perversion . Again let me repeat my last sentence of my original post … “My heart is grieving for those men but even more so for that little innocent life that will suffer for the rest of her life because society fails to see the danger of promoting perversions of God’s design.”

    People who promote perversion of any kind don’t love other people because true love speaks truth even when it hurts. I love those blinded by perversion enough to say what is true in hopes that the scales will fall from their eyes and the will see that it’s never to late to start over and live as their CREATOR intended.

    • Ronald Carter

      “Anything that strays from what GOD designed is a perversion and it breads perversion.”

      God designed homosexuals. Homosexuals fall in love. With each other. Naturally. It happens. It is not perversion.

      • Fee

        What will you say on the day you stand before God and hear otherwise? Dispute God? I doubt it. Your opinion won’t even matter at that point and time (Proverbs 16:25).

        • Ronald Carter

          First of all, what makes you say “otherwise”? I get very tired of people speaking for God. I get it, you have a paranoid revenge fantasy that involves God giving all the people you disagree with a huge smite, while you stand on the sidelines and watch and cheer. I think that’s terribly grounded in reality.

          • Fee

            “I get tired of people speaking for God”: I don’t think you do, sir, because OTHERWISE, you would have included yourself in that ridiculous statement. If anyone in this thread is attempting to speak the mind and heart of God for Him, in error, however, it’s you, sir. Now, when you start saying what the Bible says, you’d be saying exactly what God says. OTHERWISE, I’d advise you to be careful about insisting on seeing things from your perspective instead of God’s. God’s not dead, ya know; He sees all, He hears all, he knows all.

          • Ronald Carter

            So you’re telling me that me, an agnostic, is speaking on behalf of a God that I don’t even know is there? How does that work, exactly?

            Pointing out that you don’t speak for God in no way implies that I am doing the same thing. A reading comprehension course would suit you well.

          • Fee

            You’re in my prayers. Have a good day!

          • Ronald Carter

            You can save the prayers for yourself. Have a good night.

          • Fee

            To Ronald Carter: Not gonna happen, dude. You’ll never tell me who to pray for; so, yes, I’m praying for you still.

          • Ronald Carter

            Do as you like, it will not affect my life at all.

          • Fee

            Not gonna happen, dude. You’ll never tell me who to pray for; so, yes, I’m praying for you still.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        No GOD forms a man in the womb… what that man does with the life GOD gave him is designed by the man. That man is given a free will and can choose to live according to his Father in heavens instructions or after his own flesh. It’s not wrong for a man to love another man, it’s wrong for a man to have sex with another man because his Creator designed him to have sex with a woman. The anus was never made for sex, it is an outlet not an inlet and when used for sex has the potential to cause disease and infections and even septic death. It was never designed for sex.

        • Ronald Carter

          That’s ridiculous, why are you even talking about the anus? Half of the homosexual population are female, how much do you think the anus has to do with lesbian sexual relations? Are you saying that your issue is just with male homosexuals if the anus is what you are concerned about? If so, what about all the straight couple who engage in anal sex? And finally there are many gay men who do not even engage in anal sex. You need to stop focusing on sexual practices and start realizing that homosexual people are merely wired differently and can and DO fall in love.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            First off you are the one focusing in on one word in my statement. But thats what people who believe everything is ok as long as love is involved seem to do often. OK a man kills his homosexual lover out of jealousy . He loved him so thats ok right. Hey as long as you use the word love you can do whatever you wish with or to another. A man rapes his wife because she refused him and he loves her. Hey it’s ok cause LOVE is what matters. NO, GOD is love and HE defines what is right and what is wrong. HE gave instructions for all of us to live by because we as humanity need HIM to define true love because we have a rebellious nature that is contrary to true love. As to the one word you zoned in on… I repeat , the anus was never intended for sex, it is an outlet used to dump waste from the body. As to women having sex with women , it is still not GOD’s design . By the way you seem to mix up sex and love. Love according to the bible is patient, kind, long suffering, not boastful, unselfish , thoughtful … Sex is not even on the list. Again a man can love another man but according to GOD’s instructions he cannot be in a sexual relationship with him. A woman can love another woman but she cannot become sexually involved with her. True love places boundaries and does not cross them. A daddy can love his children but he can’t have sexual relationships with them. Siblings can love each other but they cannot have sexual relationships. GOD’s instructions teach us as a loving FATHER what is right and what is wrong.

          • Ronald Carter

            “OK a man kills his homosexual lover out of jealousy . He loved him so thats ok right.”

            This exact same situation happens with straight relationships too, so what is your point?

            “A man rapes his wife because she refused him and he loves her.”

            No, rape is an act of violence, not love.

            “NO, GOD is love and HE defines what is right and what is wrong.”

            God does not distinguish between the romantic relationships of straight and homosexual couples. Romantic love is romantic love.

            “I repeat , the anus was never intended for sex, it is an outlet used to dump waste from the body. As to women having sex with women , it is still not GOD’s design .”

            Why mention the anus at all? That’s what you did. It’s irrelavant. If we didn’t have anuses it wouldn’t stop people from falling in love. Which is more than just sex – to hear you talk, you’d think that homosexuals are just having sex with one another and aren’t in love. Why would you think that?

            “A woman can love another woman but she cannot become sexually involved with her.”

            Yes, she can, and she does. When both conditions are present, you have a lesbian relationship. The most you can do is speculate that God disapproves. I don’t agree.

            “A daddy can love his children but he can’t have sexual relationships with them. Siblings can love each other but they cannot have sexual relationships.”

            You clearly need assistance understanding the different types of love and where their boundaries are. Look up the words storge, philia, eros and agape.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Your mind is so set against what people are saying via media indoctrination that you can’t even read what is written and understand it.

            Love is defined by the ONE who is pure LOVE. Sex is not love so my point was that people define love in all sorts of ways yet if they do not define it via the one who Created them it’s not love in it’s pure form. People without GOD’s instructions deviate from pure love to the lusts of the flesh and perversions. They may call it love but it is a perverted form of love which can never bring them fulfillment.

            As to boundaries… I think I explained that quite well yet you did not understand. True love sets boundaries such as a father’s love for his children , a teachers love for her students, a married persons love toward a married friend or coworker, a mans love for another man, a persons love for children, two unmarried individuals … etc etc… Do these all love of course they do but they must place boundaries that say they cannot have sexual relations with they above mentioned because it would be contrary to GOD’s instructions. Loving someone is not contrary to GOD’s instructions but acting upon a sexual attraction towards someone which deviates from GOD’s design is.

            As to the word anus… again you seem to be the one fixated on the word. It’s just one of many deviation from GOD’s design . The only sexual design GOD made was between a husband and a wife. Get a puzzle out and put it together and you will find that you must have both kinds of pieces to create the picture. WHY? Because without that design you never experience what the puzzle maker created.

          • Ronald Carter

            “Your mind is so set against what people are saying via media indoctrination that you can’t even read what is written and understand it.”

            The media doesn’t indoctrinate me. I watch very little TV and see few movies. I’m influenced by science and clearly this is a concern for you.
            “Love is defined by the ONE who is pure LOVE.”

            No. That sounds very poetic and all but love’s got nothing to do with God. You can be an atheist and experience true love.

            “Sex is not love so my point was that people define love in all sorts of ways yet if they do not define it via the one who Created them it’s not love in it’s pure form.”

            See above. Not God is required for all types of love to exist.

            “People without GOD’s instructions…”

            See above.

            “They may call it love but it is a perverted form of love which can never bring them fulfillment.”

            But it DOES bring them fulfillment. They are happy. Don’t you get it? They don’t need you or God or anyone else to define their own emotions for them.

            “As to boundaries… I think I explained that quite well yet you did not understand.”

            I understood. You didn’t.

            “True love sets boundaries such as a father’s love for his children”

            Yes, that’s STORGE love.

            “a teachers love for her students”

            Yes, that’s PHILEO love.

            “a married persons love toward a married friend or coworker”

            PHILEO again.

            “a mans love for another man”

            If it’s romantic love you’re talking about, then it’s EROS. If it’s just friends, it’s PHILEO.

            “a persons love for children”

            STORGE.

            “Do these all love? Of course they do, yet they must place boundaries that say they cannot have sexual relations with the above mentioned because it would be contrary to GOD’s instructions.”

            Utter nonsense, they are different types of love that don’t turn into the other types of love. No boundaries are necessary because they are distinct forms of love. I did tell you to look them up, why didn’t you? And once again, God’s instructions are irrelvant, the four types of love exist outside of religion completely and require no deity for them to be real.

            “As to the word anus… again you seem to be the one fixated on the word. It’s just one of many deviations from GOD’s design. ”

            Well you’re not a very realistic human being then, because it’s used by both genders as a means of sexual fulfillment. But not all. And certainly not all homosexuals, as you keep suggesting.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again love does not give anyone the right to brake the boundaries set out not only by GOD’s instructions but also by society. A father who loves his children has no right to sexual relationship with his children, a man who loves another mans wife has no right to sexual relationship with her, a man who loves another man has no right to sexual relationship with him, a person who loves animals has no right to sexual relationships with them, a teacher who loves her students has no right to sexual relationships with them, a person who loves children has no right to sexual relationships with them… the list is endless. SEX is not love because sex can be perverted yet love cannot be perverted. Love is not a feeling & is defined in the word of GOD. Marriage also is defined in the word of GOD and sex within that definition brings forth life and blessings. The design of GOD is used to populate this world, without HIS design you have no population. Sex is not just about pleasure it has a purpose. Love is not contingent upon sex neither is sex contingent upon love.

          • Ronald Carter

            “Again love does not give anyone the right to brake the boundaries set out not only by GOD’s instructions but also by society.”

            There are no boundaries put in place by God, as you’ve already been told. By your logic, atheists would be having sexual relations with their children, friends, co-workers, etc. And I don’t have to tell you that they don’t.

            “A father who loves his children has no right to sexual relationship with his children”

            A father would not DESIRE a sexual relationship with his children. You’re mixing up EROS love with STORGE love. They are not the same.

            “a man who loves another mans wife has no right to sexual relationship with her”

            Right, because that would be adultery.

            “a man who loves another man has no right to sexual relationship with him”

            Whoa, hold on. Why not? If they are single and unmarried and homosexual, of course they can enter into a sexual relationship.

            “a person who loves animals has no right to sexual relationships with them”

            Correct, because that would be bestiality, which is illegal.

            “a teacher who loves her students has no right to sexual relationships with them”

            A teacher doesn’t love her students in an erotic way. Once again, you don’t know the difference between the different types of love. That teacher doesn’t need to know about “boundaries” either because her love for them (PHILEO) would never turn into a completely different type of love (EROS). You make it sound like the teacher really wants to have sex with the children but restrains herself because of God’s boundaries. It doesn’t work that way.

            “a person who loves children has no right to sexual relationships with them”

            That’s pedophilia, and is against the law. But again, most people who love children don’t love them in an erotic way.

            You really need to learn more about the different kinds of love, it’s that simple.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again you don’t get my point. We do not have the right to brake boundaries set by GOD and a moral society simply because we throw out the L word. And again LOVE is defined by GOD not by mens definitions.

            You just said a man cannot have sex with another mans wife because thats adultery . Where did you get that definition? Via the laws our country set based upon the Bible. You might argue our laws were based upon the bibles laws and principles but history will prove you wrong.

            How did you come to any of your conclusions of when sex is immoral or against the law? Without GOD’s instructions you have no base for your conclusion of what is right and what is wrong behavior or when sex is right and when it is wrong. You also have no way of defining love and tend to group it with sexual acts.

            Funny how you take biblical definitions of what is wrong sexual behavior and yet when you come to men with men you use a worldly definition. hmmmm

            Love it is what a person does not what they feel. My husband can feel he loves me all day long but his actions are the reality of love. Love is not ambiguous but is defined by our CREATOR.

          • Ronald Carter

            You can continue to make the ludicrous claim that God sets boundaries where love is concerned, but it’s false. Atheists use all the same “boundaries” and they occur naturally, there is NO GOD required to experience all the different forms of love.

            Adultery is demonstrably wrong because it involves a betrayal of trust made when a couple got married. One of those two married people is hurting the other. So it’s a form of abuse. It has nothing to do with the Bible.

            “Without GOD’s instructions you have no base for your conclusion of what is right and what is wrong behavior or when sex is right and when it is wrong.”

            Nonsense. Sex is immoral when it involves the abuse of an unwilling participant. If the two parties are consenting adults, and are not committed to other people, it is not abuse and is not immoral.

            “Funny how you take biblical definitions of what is wrong sexual behavior and yet when you come to men with men you use a worldly definition. hmmmm”

            I haven’t used any Biblical definitions at all. Ever. Not even once. In fact, you are the one who keeps making these definitions about God and the Bible and I’m saying neither one is necessary, so how can you tell me I’m IN ANY WAY using the Bible?

            “Love is not ambiguous but is defined by our CREATOR.”

            It is not. Love is common to all people regardless of their faith.

  • Judy

    Those who lie and claim it to be truth in “service” to “religion” will most likely be burned in hotter fires because they are liars as surely as those who report “news” that is political lies as those on Fox “News” spew. I wish there was a God so you bastards would get get punished.

  • JamalZ

    Beyond demented. To hate on an innocent babe is not just vile, it is a hate crime too. God cannot help me to remain composed now. I weep for the innocent younglings being tormented, tempted and abused daily by evil. EVERY DAY out children are being lured into dens of iniquity and more and more diabolical people are starting to think it’s no big deal. It is a big deal. The homosexuality being slammed on children and the insane brainwashing regarding sex means we have to defend them. We do. Please defend them.

  • Kyler Phoenix

    The men were roommates not boyfriends, why are you lying? Do you think there won’t be a price to pay?

  • http://thebenevolentthou.com/ Max T. Furr, author

    This article only adds to the myth that homosexuals are more likely to molest children than heterosexuals. The article is playing to prejudice and fear. While I understand that fundamentalist Christians reject any science that steps on their theological toes, I will still give the conclusion of a science site where multiple studies were done on this matter.

    In summary, each of these studies failed to support the hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.

    To find the site whence this came, just copy the quote and google it. It will give you pertinent information regarding the studies.