Nike Lauds ‘Transgender’ Athlete in Olympics Commercial

Mosier-compressedIn an advertisement that aired during the Olympic Games on Monday, the athletics apparel company Nike lauded a female athlete who identifies as a man and serves on the U.S. men’s national team.

The commercial, which is part of Nike’s “Unlimited” campaign, features Chris Mosier, a duathlon and triathlon competitor who became the first “transgender” to garner a spot on the team.

“Hey, Chris? How’d you know you’d be fast enough to compete against men?” the commercial begins.

“I didn’t,” she replies.

“Or strong enough?” the announcer asks.

“I didn’t,” she again answers.

“Yeah, but how did you know the team would accept you?” the announcer inquires.

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“I didn’t,” she replies.

“Or that you would even be allowed to compete?” the announcer continues.

“I didn’t,” she again responds.

“That must have been tough. Didn’t you ever just want to give up?” the announcer asks.

“Yeah,” she replies. “But I didn’t.”

The advertisement ends with the “Unlimited courage” slogan, and Nike’s characteristic “Just do it” motto.

Nike also posted an article about the advertisement on its website, stating that Mosier didn’t feel she was “competing as [her] authentic self” by participating in female athletics.

“Everything that I’ve done in the last five, six years since I started to transition, has been with [a] “Just Do It” mindset,” Mosier says in the piece. “I didn’t know if I would be competitive against men; I just did it.”

“By not stopping myself, not limiting myself and just really going for it, I’ve learned a lot about myself and also had the opportunity to further the conversation on trans inclusion in sports,” she states.

Mosier had obtained a seventh place finish in the male 35-39 group for the sprint duathlon with a time of 01:02:45.48, landing her a spot on the national team.

“Being the first trans man on a U.S. men’s national team was a dream come true for me,” she said in a statement. “I always wanted my name on a jersey. To represent our country at the highest level, in my sport, is just outstanding. It’s just such an amazing opportunity—and an amazing opportunity for other people to see themselves reflected in someone succeeding in sports as a trans man.”

But not everyone is pleased with Nike’s support of Mosier identifying as and competing with men.

“The ad did not tell the public about what happens if a man competes as a woman and the disadvantages over women, or that if athletes take on the IOC for their LGBT policies, they will be reprimanded,” said Steve McConkey, president of the sports ministry 4WINDS. “Also, not about the long term problems with hormone therapy, especially with young people.”

He notes that Apple CEO Tim Cook, a homosexual, was recently selected to serve as lead independent director of Nike.

“Also, the Nike Foundation has given to organizations that support abortion, such as Planned Parenthood,” he said. “USA Track and Field is supported by Nike in a deal that is worth millions through 2040.”


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  • D Sims

    “I always wanted my name on a jersey…”
    I remember at a young age I wanted my name in lights, become successful and then once I achieved that it was just as lonely at the top as it was at the bottom. I hope some day that she will see that her name on a jersey will never offer lasting life.
    You make known to me the path of life;
    in your presence there is fullness of joy;
    at your right hand are pleasures forevermore. ~ Psalms 16

  • 201821208 :)

    See “Can a person be born with the wrong gender?” at gotquestions dot org

  • Michael C

    Regardless of what you think of transgender people, Mosier’s drive, determination, and refusal to succumb to perceived limitations epitomizes the “Just Do It” campaign. You don’t have to like him but he does deserve your respect.

    • Amos Moses

      And in all that ….. She is just as confused and alone and wrong as she ever was …… and this “victory” is hollow ………

      1:1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
      1:2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
      1:3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
      1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
      1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
      1:6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
      1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
      1:8 All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
      1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
      1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
      1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
      1:12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
      1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
      1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

      • sangrita

        I don’t think he’s confused at all. I think you are.

        • Amos Moses

          Yes …… SHE is ………. and lost ………

          • sangrita

            If he’s an Olympic athlete, I would say he’s generally got his life together pretty well. Certainly not “lost”.

          • Amos Moses

            She is lost …….. and please explain how a woman “knows” what it is like to “feel” like a man ………… when she aint one ………….

          • sangrita

            If you or I knew the answer to that, it would be easier for us both to understand. But because we don’t, we can either empathize and accept medical knowledge, or shun him and treat him like garbage…which I am guessing is NOT what Jesus would do.

          • Amos Moses

            “If you or I knew the answer to that, it would be easier for us both to understand.”

            We cant understand ……….. because she cant …….. because she is a woman …. not a man …. and the only one not getting that in this conversation ………. YOU ………..

            Christ Jesus would have them GIVE UP THEIR LIE ……… and be healed ….. and have salvation ……

          • sangrita

            Since you are not a transgender, you cannot speak on behalf of one. Just like you can’t speak on behalf of a woman.
            You are in no way qualified to say anything at all about this man or his situation, and it’s best that you don’t pretend to know, because you can’t.
            To live in a body they are uncomfortable or feeling trapped in would be the lie. So there is nothing to give up.

          • Amos Moses

            “Since you are not a transgender, you cannot speak on behalf of one. Just like you can’t speak on behalf of a woman.”

            i can speak on behalf of those in SIN ……. and she is …………

          • sangrita

            Feeling trapped in the body of the wrong sex is not sin. And don’t even try telling me there’s a Bible verse saying it is.

          • Amos Moses

            They are not “trapped in the body of the wrong sex” ………. they have BDD ……………… DSM5 diagnosis …. and it is still SIN …….

          • sangrita

            Why are you so quick to scream SIN at people? What exactly is the action being done by the transgendered person that is sinful?
            No sexual contact is going on with a transgendered person after all.
            And if you think they are ill, which I disagree with, my original question stands…why are you blaming them and punishing them if they are ill?

          • Amos Moses

            “Why are you so quick to scream SIN at people? ”

            i call SIN what SIN is ……. not a “mistake”, not “not sin” ….. SIN is SIN …. there is no compromise ….. if a person walks into a hospital with a gaping, bleeding gash in their body ….. i do not call it a scratch ……….

          • sangrita

            You didn’t answer the question. A transgender is only someone who believes themselves to be born of the wrong gender. How do they sin in being transgendered?

          • Amos Moses

            “How do they sin in being transgendered?”

            They believe incorrectly …….. against Gods order …. against God ….. they have judged God to be wrong and they believe they are right …….. it is disregard of God …….. it violates the first and second commandment ………. it is SIN ……..

          • ShemSilber

            You are right on, Brother Amos. They don’t even “trans” their gender, but mangle their bodies and lie to themselves and everybody that they have changed from the sex they were born with. In the resurrection to judgment, they will come up as they were born, all their malingering undone. May the Master Yahushua have mercy on them (and on us too, for that matter, for we all need it), omein.

          • ShemSilber

            Our Creator, the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus), per John 1:1-18 and Colossians 1:16, who formed us all in our mothers’ wombs assigns us a gender at conception, like it or not, believe it or not (no matter what “religion” we espouse or don’t). No matter WHAT we do to our bodies, even with expert surgery, there is no changing that assignment to make us what we are not. It is impossible to make a male into a female or a female into a male, but we only mangle the body, perhaps beyond recovery, and end up a miserable failure.

            Better to turn to the Master Yahushua and accept His assignment rather than bang our heads against that brick wall, because He knows what’s best for His creation, which we are, omein.

          • Amos Moses

            Lots of sports figures who are addicts, to alcohol, drugs, sex, etc…, are in debt up to their eyeballs and do not have christ and are lost ….. just like everybody else ……….. appearances are not reality …………..

          • sangrita

            So in your little world, even the Olympic athletes, whose lives are all about training, diet, regimens, and little else are just drug addicted alcoholic sex maniacs. I wonder if you’ve ever said a single thing that made sense.

          • Amos Moses

            Nope ……… being a tranny ………… that does ………

    • https://disqus.com/home/channel/escapefromegypt/ EscapetheDarkness

      @ Michael C

      Michael C said: “Regardless of what you think of transgender people, Mosier’s drive, determination, and refusal to succumb to perceived limitations epitomizes the ‘Just Do It’ campaign. You don’t have to like him but he does deserve your respect.”

      Nope. This depends entirely on how one thinks that society should operate, in such matters.

      If you truly affirm that we live in a multicultural society, then you must affirm that you cannot speak for how others should feel about such things and you have no right to do so. After all, if Progressives insist that multiculturalism can accommodate the Muslim way of life, then I can insist that multiculturalism can accommodate other ways of life, which disagree with your way of life, as well.

      • Michael C

        Perhaps my wording was unclear.

        While you don’t have to respect Chris Mosier as a person, his extraordinary athletic accomplishments cannot be denied.

        Even if you don’t like him, he unquestionably represents the “Just Do It” brand.

        • https://disqus.com/home/channel/escapefromegypt/ EscapetheDarkness

          @ Michael C

          Michael C said: “Perhaps my wording was unclear.

          While you don’t have to respect Chris Mosier as a person, his extraordinary athletic accomplishments cannot be denied.

          Even if you don’t like him, he unquestionably represents the ‘Just Do It’ brand.”

          Nope. I do not believe that transgender people should be competing against members of the opposite sex, under the previous point that I made here, just as I do not regard and respect Transgenderism in general as a real, genuine, scientific phenomenon, in a general sense.

        • NoPinko

          Yep, Nike, in their unlimited wisdom, just told God they are wiser than Him.

        • Mikel Ryanson

          What accomplishments? After all if he is a he as you say than their is nothing special. He is not even in the top 5 of his 35-40 American team age group.
          But Are your admitting it’s a girl? In that case no one saying girls can’t be fast even beating many men.
          Also lot of people could represent the just do it brand. Their are woman who had to leave choas/war and worse who actually made it to the Olympics. Why not show them? Because Nike is all about propaganda!

        • Mikel Ryanson

          How about someone people can relate too in order to represent just do it brand. How about someone who people can look up too. What is Nike saying hey boys and girls inject hormones and cut off your private area. Great role models. Lol

    • Mikel Ryanson

      this is a she since scientifically you can’t change your gender. Liberals can’t just change scientific facts because of your mental insanity. Me thinking I’m an cat don’t make me an cat even if I glue fur on me.

    • Mikel Ryanson

      With your logic a lot of evil things can epitomize the just do it campaign even someone like hitler. Nike put this trannie in their as propaganda. It was more about promoting the whole trannie movement than about Nike products. Why would someone need to respect someone who destroys their body because they hate the way God made them? Lots of people have drive and have to beat limitations don’t mean we need to respect all of them.

    • Amos Moses

      Pastors’ Daughter and Olympic Sprinter Drops to Track to Praise the Name of Jesus

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    So a woman who competes against women is not allowed to take testosterone, but a woman can take as much testosterone as she pleases if she’s going to compete against man. Sounds like a great story.

    • axelbeingcivil

      That’s not actually the case. Trans people still need to be within the androgen ranges for the relative division they’re seeking to participate in, as all competitors do.

      • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

        An honest woman athlete should compete as herself – not as a drug and hormone enhanced version of herself, even if she is running against men. If a woman is allowed to enhance her biochemistry so that she can compete, then why should other enhancements be prohibited? All the competitors should take drugs, and we can see who has the best horse tranquilizer.

        • axelbeingcivil

          This isn’t enhancement; this is a trans-man competing against other men. His hormone levels are within the same boundaries as biological men. Enhancement implies trying to boost in excess of one’s competitors.

          • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

            Enhancement is when you add something to your natural ability – something beyond food and bodily training, something chemical, something that your competitors do not add, because it is cheating.

          • axelbeingcivil

            Well, then, thank goodness the level of testosterone in trans-men competitors is not in excess of the level biological men possess? Because both men and trans-men will have testosterone in their blood; only the source differs.

          • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

            So you can either have it because it is part of who you are as a competitor, or because you add it to who you are so that you can compete. Does your testosterone measure low? Well, just top up! Everyone is doing it!

          • axelbeingcivil

            Generally, if your testosterone levels are low, medical advice can be to boost them. How high to boost them will depend on the person, obviously, but there is a healthy natural range to be within.

            Trans-men receive artificial testosterone to raise them to the same level as other men. Why does the source matter if they’ve got no competitive advantage?

  • 201821208 :)

    See “Can a person be born with the wrong gender?” at Got Questions.

  • Harry Oh!

    It’s gonna be hilarious to see trans-men blowing away their female competition when they succeed in threatening the IOC into allowing them to compete. That day is coming fast and it will probably be the end of the Olympics for a lot of people who will never subscribe to this lunacy.

    • axelbeingcivil

      Trans-women (MtF) would be competing against female athletes, not trans-men. And they already do. The IOC has had rules for it for years, with outlines on the requirements for having been post-surgical and undergoing hormone therapy for a minimum of two years and having androgenic hormones within listed limits.

  • ComeOnPeople!

    She has changed herself into a freak of nature instead of what God created. Not only has she bought into a lie but she has taken the beautiful Masterpiece that the Grand Artist created and exchanged it for one of the many cheap counterfeits created by the grand deceiver . I feel so sorry for her and pray somehow she wakes up and realizes she got conned into buying a cheap knock off of the real deal.

    • SFBruce

      Do you think it’s wrong to perform corrective surgery on a child with a cleft palate? To trans individuals, the treatments they seek in order to transition are corrective in nature. If they believe in God, they also believe that such changes makes them more whole, just as the child who receives surgery to correct a cleft palate.

      • Nidalap

        Yes, and some mental illnesses make people think that removing healthy arms and legs is corrective too…

        • axelbeingcivil

          That doesn’t actually discount Bruce’s point. Bruce was pointing out that people aren’t created perfect every time. They weren’t claiming that every desire for cosmetic surgery is healthy, just that it’s sometimes necessary.

          • Nidalap

            Not quite. Sir Bruce was attempting to draw a direct equivalent between cleft palate surgery for children and ‘gender reassignment’ surgery.

            See his reply to my post for confirmation…

        • SFBruce

          Wow. I’m shocked that you’re actually saying children born with cleft palates should just accept that as God’s plan for them.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again… one is born with a deformity , the other is born not deformed but believes in their mind that they are. One is an actual physical deformity and the other is one a product of thought.

          • Amos Moses

            He did not say that ……… good lying twist though ……….

      • ComeOnPeople!

        One is deformed and the other is not. One needs the surgery to be able to speak well , eat and breath better & the other has no medical reason for a surgery. One is physical and the other is simply a mental illness which makes one think they are deformed when their body has no deformity. One is reality and the other is fantasy .

        • axelbeingcivil

          Ostensibly, deformation is at least somewhat a social definition. For example, if someone is born with a serious facial deformity that inflicts no pain and causes no physical harm but produces excessive mental anguish and social isolation, can we not say that this is a medical problem? That the reasonable solution is surgery, despite there being no physical malady?

          Body dysmorphia applies to more than just transgender individuals. How we handle it is inherently tricky. We need to justify why we consider it acceptable for some to undergo surgical alteration to appear more in a way that is healthy for their self-image, and some to not.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            And pray do tell me where this train is heading… do we give to a man a tail because he perceives himself to be a dog and has felt like he was a misdiagnosed as a person at birth. How about the full grown man who is asking to have his parts downsized because he perceives himself to be an infant or what of some people who fear or hate of their parts and want them removed? It’s called mental illness not deformity and is in the mind. Surgery will not fix them. It’s a lie and many many many who have had the surgeries are coming out begging trans not to listen to the lie. It does not fix them and many times it scares , makes them unable to preform and even causes serious infections that lead to death. If you love people you try to help them up , not help them down.

          • axelbeingcivil

            Most trans-people do not want surgery. Sexual reassignment is rare, and many of those who regret it later feel so because they feel they were pressured into it; that they didn’t do it out of a personal desire. Sexual reassignment surgery isn’t necessary to be trans, though; a person’s gender and sex need not be connected. If we can move past that, maybe we can reduce the number of trans people who end up regretting their choice.

            For those who choose it in an informed manner and are happy with their choice, though, it’s potentially something quite helpful.

            As for the other examples you give, I’m honestly not entirely sure I have a reliable, consistent standard for what surgeries are acceptable and which aren’t. My only thought might be to say that any potentially limits useful and/or necessary activities in future are worthy of special consideration. I can’t really include sexual activity in that because I’m entirely accepting of vasectomies and tubal ligations if people wish to have them.

            Consider, for a moment, a person who is born with three arms. They’re all healthy, completely functional, and cause no interference besides needing custom-tailored clothes. However, they lead to obvious social awkwardness. Would you consider it healthy to remove one of them surgically? Because I wouldn’t. Yet if one of the arms was completely dead and useless – shriveled and malformed – I would agree that surgery might be the best option.

            I’m not sure where I’m going with this. Thanks for giving me something to evaluate.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            We are living in a time when people blame their choices on others. Our choices are ours to make, no one forces us to make choices. Tomorrow if I had cancer, no one could force me to have that cancer removed and my choice would be to not do so but that’s my choice. Should that cancer grow I would not blame those who suggested I remove it but myself who made the choice. What an immature age we all live in. We have young adults coming out of colleges less mature then when they went in. Why , because blame game is taught and that everything and anything should be acceptable to all. What a crock of bull. There are many many things that have not from our founding been acceptable. Even human nature and nature itself screams to us what is normal or acceptable and what is a deviation from it. This new generation needs to grow up and start taking responsibility for it’s actions and the choices they made. To believe you are a female when you are indeed a male & vice versa is heaping upon yourself scorn . Why because everyone who has matured knows it’s not proper thinking or behavior. Even the person who makes that choice at first knows they are going against their own nature. Yet habit breeds habit and a conscience denied becomes numb.

          • axelbeingcivil

            See, when you believe that people make choices irrespective of their surroundings or feelings of social pressure, you’re both very lucky and very naive to have apparently never experienced them for yourself.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Hmmm let’s seeeee… ok well , I grew up in a family of 7 kids and two parents. My father was gone most of my younger life and we moved every year sometimes 3 and 4 times a year. I was always the new kid in school . We were poor because of my fathers choices. He drank and ran around. By my teens they had divorced . I was offered same sex and I turned the group of them down. I was offered drugs and I chose them . I chose to get in trouble with the law also but then I chose to live a life above sin and reproach . I chose to live in such a way that it blessed my husband and my children. Could I have chose the path my father took. Sure. Or my mother. Sure! But I chose to take what was good from them and leave what was wrong behind me. I chose to follow righteous laws and walk according to HIS ways. No one is chained to their present or their past unless they are in some criminals dungeon somewhere and can’t be free. Life is what we make it. Even those in the most horrific of pasts have proven that you can choose to be free and laugh at your persecutors . No one ever has to remain a victim after they are grown, they can rise about hard ships, assaults and neglect. GOD gave us all the ability to choose. To choose HIM or not. To choose to love or hate. To choose life or death. To choose HIS laws or our own way. When we choose righteously we are blessed and when we choose unrighteously we are cursed. Live is totally about the paths we take and where they lead us.

          • axelbeingcivil

            I am curious how you refute hard determinism.

        • SFBruce

          I know that the thought of transitioning from one physical gender to another is something many have difficulty understanding, but before you write it off as “fantasy,” you might want to read more about it by trans people themselves and the professionals who try to help them. To a trans person, living with a physical anatomy at odds with their own identity is as much a deformity in their minds as the person with a cleft palette. And I can assure you the pain they experience as a result of that perceived incongruity is very, very real.

          • Amos Moses

            Read Walter Heyer ………. and Rene Richards ……. both have said MONUMENTAL MISTAKE on their part ……..”And I can assure you the pain they experience as a result of that perceived incongruity is very, very real.” …. so was the surgery ………

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Go read testimonies or even watch youtube videos of the men and women that have been scared, maimed and even had loved ones die because of this nonsense . Watch them weep and wish they could go back to just being whole again. Then come back and tell me your big big bunch of crud based on propaganda not fact.

          • SFBruce

            The stories of a few who regret transitioning don’t make a trend. For every one of these, there are many more who find a peace they lacked before. It’s kind of ironic that you accuse me of “crud based on propaganda” when all you’ve come up with is anecdotal evidence.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No see there is a thing called experience and testimony. Those who have actually had sex changes and alterations preformed on themselves are actually are speaking out and it is not just a few. There are few who have actually had these surgeries … therefore those who have had them and are not happy with the results is pretty relevant . Their testimonies are not propaganda but their own stories based upon their experience. They will tell you that they believed the lies told to them and regret it. Go look they are not hard to find but hey those who want to just believe heresy instead of actual accounts will always refuse to look at the evidence.

  • Reason2012

    Yes, so much for women when men start dominating there – suddenly they’ll change their tune about how great it is.

  • Gary Walsh

    Will never purchase anything NIKE ever again.

  • NoPinko

    God made the universe. God made each one of us. Think God makes mistakes? Peace.

    • axelbeingcivil

      I don’t know about you, but I was made by the sordid antics of my parents.

      • NoPinko

        Jeremiah 1:5 God knows us even before our parents marry. Pretty cool.

        • axelbeingcivil

          So much for free will, eh?

          • NoPinko

            God knew our parents would meet and knew we would be conceived. Once we were born and took our first breath God allows us to travel with Him or without Him. The decisions we make are ours alone. When everything is going well we tend to fall away. But, once we hit a storm we’re pleading for Him to help us. He allows us to make our own decisions but gives us the guide book. If we decide to read and follow it is up to us. God wants us to come to Him. He will never force our relationship. He gives us free will to decide. Pretty cool huh?

          • axelbeingcivil

            Feels kinda contradictory that you can have any sort of independent will if God knows not only who you’re going to meet and conceive a child with, but who that child will be from birth to death.

          • NoPinko

            God doesn’t think like you and me. We can’t choose our parents, but we can choose if we want to try and live a good life that puts others first. God is a mystery because He is beyond our comprehension. Never the less He loves us no matter what. All we have to do is trust Him. That is the coolest part of being one of His children – trust. So many of us miss out because we only trust ourselves.

          • axelbeingcivil

            These things also seem paradoxical. If God doesn’t think like you or I, what does the idea of saying God loves us means? What does it mean for something that does not think like us to “love”? How can we even know that much about it if it is beyond our comprehension? Our information about such an entity is innately incomplete.

            None of this resolves the other paradox either; that of choice. If our future actions are all known, it demonstrates the absoluteness of causality. That means our causes are simple outputs of circumstance, not “true” choices.

            I’m sorry, they just feel contradictory.

  • C_Alan_Nault

    I don’t respect anyone who CHOOSES to be tranny. S:(rry

    • sangrita

      Respect needs to be earned. How are you earning it with this post?

  • Mikel Ryanson

    It’s the purpose destruction of morals in society. This whole trannie movement is not an accident. Best way to control a society is to destroy its morals. The elite people need choas. Even communists wrote about making it like gender does not exist. It’s insane what’s going on. Liberals are deranged.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

    Nike’s brazen promotion of transgenderism wouldn’t be occurring had the 18th-century founders (like their 17th-century Christian Colonial predecessors) established government and society upon Yahweh’s triune moral law (His Ten Commandments and their respective statutes, and judgments, including Deuteronomy 22:5, Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13).

    For more on how Yahweh’s unchanging moral law applies and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    No use for this kind of manure. Mosier needs to be set free from that perversion, in the name of Yeshua. What is it to gain the whole world, yet lose your soul? Mosier might find out the answer to that question.