Report: Those Who View Images of Aborted Babies Are Less Likely to Support Abortion

CALGARY – New research from a Canadian pro-life organization shows that public support for abortion decreases measurably if people are shown images of abortion victims.

Whether or not opponents of abortion should disseminate images of abortion victims is an ongoing debate within the pro-life community. While some argue that doing so in an important and effective means of persuasion, others contend that the images—which often feature bloody, mangled babies—are too graphic and unpleasant.

Now new research suggests that people are in fact prone to change their minds about abortion after viewing images of aborted infants.

“The use of abortion victim imagery in pro-life outreach is perhaps one of the most enduring debates within the pro-life movement,” wrote bioethics and public policy scholar Dr. Jacqueline Harvey in a report titled “A Statistical Analysis on the Effectiveness of Abortion Victim Photography in Pro-Life Activism.” “Although proponents cite cases of lives saved and minds changed supporting the effectiveness of the strategy, opponents insist these images impede public receptiveness to other strategies they claim could save more lives.”

The study was commissioned by the Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Reform (CCBR). To collect data for the report, the group surveyed specific geographic areas, asking respondents about their opinions on abortion. After the survey, the group distributed postcards showing images of abortion victims. Then, following the postcard distribution, CCBR again surveyed the respondents’ views on abortion to see if their views on abortion had been affected by the postcards.

Support for abortion dropped measurably after people viewed the postcards.

“By canvassing thousands across several neighbourhoods and surveying 1,741 diverse respondents, results found a statistically significant shift in pro-life worldview, a greater negative perception of abortion, a decreased degree of permissiveness and liberalism towards abortion law, and a significant gain in pro-life political views after seeing abortion victim imagery,” the report states.

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“Those identifying as completely pro-life increased by nearly 30% following the campaign, with those identifying as pro-abortion decreasing also in their degree of remaining support for abortion,” the report continues. “Overall, there was a statistically significant gain of nearly 17% towards a pro-life worldview.”

Based on these findings, distributing images of abortion victims appears to be an effective way to further the pro-life cause.

“This still suggests, nonetheless, that abortion victim imagery in itself, regardless of presentation, is intrinsically effective at altering previously positive perceptions on abortion and changing the culture,” the report states.

As previously reported, pro-life displays showing photographic evidence of abortions have been met with opposition by those who find such materials offensive. In 2014, for example, the University of Alabama removed an on-campus pro-life display following complaints. Also in 2014, a professor at the University of California—Santa Barbara seized and destroyed a sign from a pro-life organization, claiming the pro-life demonstrators were “terrorists.”

However, last week’s report suggests that when people see pictorial evidence of the graphic nature of abortions, they often change their minds about abortion.

“The study confirms what pro-lifers have witnessed for decades: seeing abortion victims alters how individuals feel about abortion—which in turn influences how they think about abortion, including their political views,” noted Mark Harrington, National Director of the pro-life group Created Equal, in a statement.


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  • TheBottomline4This

    Come on pro-choicers!!! Surely this is no problem right?
    It’s not a baby anyway. At least that’s what you all tell us.
    It’s just a shredded blob of tissue in the pics.

    • Jenny Ondioline

      Grossing people out isn’t going to do anything. Regardless of where you sit on the issue. It’s a shoddy tactic to use if you ask me.

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        The science says otherwise. 🙂

        • TheBottomline4This

          Yes, their god of Science is one of the main things they rely on, second to feelings of course.

        • Jenny Ondioline

          I don’t think so. 🙂

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Then you did not read the study. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I did, and I’ll wait for more studies. One study means nothing.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            So, you are going against the evidence and science?

            No surprise. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, like I said, I will wait. One story quoted widely by conservative sources is suspect.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            That is an ad hominem fallacy. It’s not the source but the study methodology and results, which are clearly presented in the paper, that are grounds for acceptance or dismissal, not your feelings.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, it’s a common problem with the “news” websites of this ilk. Remember how Target stock was collapsing a couple months ago? LOL

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Still waiting for you to find something wrong with the science in the scientific study and quit diverting to other topics and committing logical fallacies.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The crux of the matter isn’t in the science and never was. The crux is allowing Christian fundamentalists to tell other people how to run their lives.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Aaah, I was waiting for you to play the religion card.

            Since you are the first to bring up religion in our discussion, does that mean abortion is a religion to you?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No thanks, re: the proselytizing.
            Abortion is tied in with religion in a large way, yes.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            So, why are you proselytizing your abortion religion?

            Do you pray to St. Cecile (Richards)?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I don’t follow any religion. And I am not political about abortion. You should really not pretend you know things about strangers you meet on message forums.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Your religion is abortion.

            Your saint is Cecile.

            Your sacrifice is fetal.

            Your creed is “choice.”

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Four statements made without knowing the first thing about me. Well, I know the kind of person I’m dealing with, don’t I?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            One of us does. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            This is a game to you, isn’t it? I am not interested in playing. I am willing to discuss the issue but you are not. Where do you sit in the issue of issuing birth control to stop the problem before it starts?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “I am not interested in playing.”

            Does this mean you are going away or only promising to do so, later changing your mind?

            “Where do you sit in the issue of issuing birth control to stop the problem before it starts?”

            Deflection is a sure sign that one has lost.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I promise I will go away once I know what I’m going away FROM.

            Deflection? You’re anti-choice, right? Using birth control stops the problem before it starts. I would say that’s very much on topic here. It’s a lot of games you seem to enjoy playing rather than tackling a topic head on.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “You’re anti-choice, right?”

            Nope, I am pro-choice about chocolate, the cars I drive, and the schools I send my kids to.

            YOU are anti-choice about rape, murder, pedophilia, terrorism, and burglary, aren’t you?

            Aren’t you?!?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            That isn’t what the expression refers to. I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the mother. That doesn’t mean I like abortion.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            My comment went completely over your head.

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the mother.”

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the rapist.”

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the murderer.”

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the pedophile.”

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the terrorist.”

            “I am very much in favor of putting the decision in the hands of the one person it belongs to – the burglar.”

            See it yet?!?

            Or, more deflection and obtuseness?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            What I see you doing is unfairly comparing a pregnant women with rapists, murderers and pedophiles, lending further proof to my belief that you dislike women.

            What I DON’T see ME doing is deflecting. If anything, I’m trying to get you to come clean and stop speaking in code.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            No, what YOU don’t see is that the “choice” you defend has a victim, just like the “choices” of rapists, murderers, pedophiles, terrorists, burglars.

            Even your sacred Church of PP has gone away from the term “pro-choice,” because they admit how disingenuous it is.

            So, quit deflecting, and just admit defeat. 🙂

            Unless you are getting paid to troll, in which case I will help you make more money. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I don’t have a church, I thought I made that clear.
            If you’re seriously comparing rapists, murderers, pedophiles, etc, to pregnant women, you aren’t someone I want anything to do with. In fact, I would feel uncomfortable even living in the same city you do. A pregnant woman’s situation belongs to her, not you. My communication with you ends here.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            No reply to abortion, rape, murder, pedophilia, terrorism, burglary ALL having victims. Got it.

            “My communication with you ends here.”

            That is because you were outed as a paid troll, and your masters do not pay you per comment after that.

            You are not going to lie and break that promise and come back, are you, like so many pro-abortion people do?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Nope, not replying to your absurdity. Post me something worth of a response sometime, rather than comparing women to murderers and terrorists. You must be lots of fun at women’s events.

            You didn’t expose anything, the idea that I could be paid to be here talking is pretty hilarious though, where do I sign up?

            No, I’m done with you here and now. Wanted to give you one more chance to tell me what Planned Murder In Da Hood was. You failed. Bye.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            So you DID lie when you said you were leaving.

            That is not unusual for a pro-abort.

            Why are you making women out to be like rapists, murderers, pedophiles, terrorists, and burglars by using the same argument they do when they commit their crimes?!?

            “Bye.”

            Does your “bye” mean “bye” this time, or are you a serial liar?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I’ve changed my mind about leaving. I have the right to do that. I changed it because you enjoy far too much telling other people what to do. Including pregnant women. You aren’t going to tell me what to do.
            I am not a pro-abort. Never said I was.
            Do you know what they call radical Christians who compare women to rapists, murderers, pedophiles, terrorsts and burglars? I’d tell you but they would probably terminate my account. It’s not a very nice word. It’s not something you want to be.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “I’ve changed my mind about leaving.”

            What a shock – a pro-abortion person breaks a promise?!? THAT has never happened before. 🙂

            “I have the right to do that.”

            If you are a promise breaker and a liar, then yes.

            “because you enjoy far too much telling other people what to do”

            You mean you would not tell a potential terrorist not to commit the act? What kind of person are you?

            “Including pregnant women.”

            Yes, I tell pregnant women not to pay someone to kill their child – inside of the womb or out.

            Strange that you would NOT tell them that. If a woman was holding her 1 year old over the railing of a bridge, would you say “It’s OK, Honey, whatever your CHOICE is, I am fine with that.”?!?

            “You aren’t going to tell me what to do.”

            Actually, I was not the one who told you what to do. YOU were the one who said you were leaving. The fact that YOU lied about it is neither surprising nor my fault.

            “Do you know what they call radical Christians”

            Jesus? 🙂 Nice of you to bring up religion. Is abortion a religion to you?

            “who compare women to rapists, murderers, pedophiles, terrorsts and burglars”

            Why were YOU the one who did that by using the same argument they use for their nefarious activities?

            “I’d tell you but they would probably terminate my account.”

            In which case, your masters would not be able to pay you for posting.

            “It’s not a very nice word.”

            Our deathscorts use not nice words too – are you a deathscort?

            “It’s not something you want to be.”

            I would not want to be on the wrong side of the deaths of 60 million innocents like you are, that’s for sure!

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I decided it was a better bet to stick around than to show I was going to be bullied by you like the other people in your life you enjoy bullying so much, notably pregnant women whose situations are none of your business. That doesn’t make me a promise breaker or a liar, it makes me someone who isn’t going to put up with your abuse.

            I’m not going to engage you in the rest of what you wrote because I’m not going off on your tangents. If you truly cared about the unborn you would be ensuring birth control was getting out there to stop the problem before it starts. But I think the reason you aren’t doing that is because it’s not really the unborn you care about, it’s that you don’t want women having sexual relations. This is a women-controlling issue for you.

            If you want to address that, go ahead. If you want to lead the conversation and take it in directions unrelated to the topic, you will have a whole lot of silence in return. I will not be bullied by you.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            So, you are admitting to being a liar as well as a bully of preborn babies, in addition to being a troll bully.

            Why do you hate little innocent babies so much that you troll for their deaths?

            Also, since abortion mills regularly service the victims of rapists, pimps, sex traffickers, and pedophiles, without reporting their crimes, it would seem you are also defending these sorts of nefarious creatures.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Why do you hate innocent women so much that you want to control their decisions?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            The only woman hater here is you, as you support rapists, pimps, sex traffickers, and pedophiles. Also, half of the preborn babies you support killing by “choice” are female.

            “Why do you hate innocent women so much that you want to control their decisions?”

            Their decision to do what – pay someone to kill their innocent child?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Why do you hate innocent women so much that you want to control their decisions?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            The only woman hater here is you, Jenny, as you support rapists, pimps, sex traffickers, and pedophiles. Also, half of the preborn babies you support killing by “choice” are female.

            “Why do you hate innocent women so much that you want to control their decisions?”

            Their decision to do what – pay someone to kill their innocent child?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            “you support rapists, pimps, sex traffickers, and pedophiles.”

            When did I say any of those things? I didn’t. You are lying. You don’t even know me.

            Why do you hate innocent women so much that you want to control their decisions?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Their decision to do what – pay someone to kill their innocent child?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The decision to make up her own mind rather than have a bunch of zealots do it for her.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            To make up her own mind about paying someone to kill her innocent child?

            Does that work outside of the womb too?

            Why are you a zealot for abortion?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Where did I say abortion? I said make up her mind.
            Why do YOU have the right to make up the minds of millions of women who you don’t know and whose situations you CANNOT know?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Where did I say abortion? I said make up her mind.
            The only thing I am advocating here is leaving the decision to the person affected by what’s going on. In other words, NOT YOU.
            Why do YOU have the right to make up the minds of millions of women who you don’t know and whose situations you CANNOT know?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I speak for the child being led to slaughter. The one you do not care about.

            Blacks did not choose to be slaves.
            Jews did not choose to be gassed.
            Babies do not choose to be aborted.

            It must be easy for YOU to be “pro-choice” when YOU are not the one being aborted.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            It’s far too complicated an issue to reduce to black and white the way you are. Sorry. And for the last time stop telling me what I think. You don’t know.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “It’s far too complicated an issue to reduce to black and white”

            Not for the 3000 innocents who are killed each day in Amerika alone. For them, it IS black and white, life or death.

            You support the “choice” to kill them – you are of ZERO help to the most vulnerable humans on earth. There is no compassion in that.

      • TheBottomline4This

        It’s a great “tactic”. Pictures don’t lie.
        If you want to support Abortions, you should be willing to see the results if it’s only a blob of tissue.

        • Jenny Ondioline

          Pictures don’t lie but just because they’re unpleasant to look at means nothing. Showing pictures of overflowing toilets would make people uncomfortable in the same way.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            What if the toilets were overflowing with aborted babies?!

          • Jenny Ondioline

            If you disembowel someone, whether a baby or a 90 year old man, it’s going to be ugly. I don’t need to see pictures to know that.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            What if you cut the baby’s arms, legs, and head off, as in a D&C?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            It’s going to be ugly. Changes nothing though, it’s a cheap emotional ploy.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            It only changes nothing because you lack compassion and are morally challenged.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Run along, little troll. You don’t know me.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Haha!

            Who is the troll today?!? 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            At the moment, you are.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Are you trolling for dollars?

          • Basset_Hound

            But it’s OK for PETA to show clubbed baby seals…..

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            As usual, your brilliant doggy wisdom shines through it all, Basset_Hound!

        • Jenny Ondioline

          If you want to support the death penalty, you should be willing to see the results. It’s only a slab of meat.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Why do you support the death penalty for 3000 innocent humans each day?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Did I say I did?

  • ComeOnPeople!

    It works because the WORD tells us that the window to the soul is the eye. Telling someone it’s a baby when media and doctors are telling them it is a blob of tissue to them is just only two opposing views but showing them a picture allows the truth to enter their innermost being which cannot be denied. A picture is truly worth a thousand words.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Exactly. I hardly knew what was going on until I saw the images. It’s like the Holocaust – people do not care if it’s only rumors. Education counts. Christians must continue to educate barbaric mankind on the Word of God so that all would value every human life equally. Life starts at conception and human life is sacred because of the Creator God( Psalm ch.139, Genesis ch.9). No human is sub-human.

  • WorldGoneCrazy

    America will not HATE abortion until America SEES abortion.

    • Jenny Ondioline

      When you keep forcing it on people, the only thing they will hate is you.

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        False. Worked for slavery too.

        • Jenny Ondioline

          irrelevant

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Most relevant.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I beg to differ.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Begging will not help you, unless you are begging for forgiveness. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            If begging for forgiveness is your thing, go nuts. I have nothing to be forgiven for.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            If you are suffering from post-abortion guilt, Jenny, you can find free post-abortion counseling at a crisis pregnancy center near you (just take the 3 spaces out):

            http://www .lifecall .org/cpc .html

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I am a man. A “Jenny Ondioline” is a vintage keyboard.
            I’ll just wait for you to dislodge your foot from your mouth now and wait for the next assumption.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Men have abortion guilt too, as many coerce their girlfriends or wives into having an abortion.

            I can take you to such a site, if you wish to be educated.

            Now waiting for YOU to dislodge YOUR foot from YOUR mouth. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I know of no one who has had an abortion. But if I ever do, I will do everything in my power to make sure the decision of what to do is theirs alone and they aren’t pressured by misogynist zealots.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Great – then you won’t be using the misogynist zealots at Planned Murder in Da Hood, who cover up the crimes of rapists, pedophiles, pimps, and sex traffickers in order to gain their blood money!

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I have no idea what you’re talking about. There is so much conspiracy theory and insanity in what you wrote I literally can’t understand what you are saying. Who or what is “Planned Murder in Da Hood”? Clearly a nickname you made up for some organization you are opposed to, but am I supposed to guess which one that is? Why don’t you just speak like a normal person?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “I have no idea what you’re talking about.”

            Then, educate yourself on abortion. Here is a short film – just take the space out:

            http://abortioninstruments .com/

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I have a better idea. Tell me who you are talking about when you say “Planned Murder in Da Hood” because I am sure I don’t have to tell you there is no organization with that name.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Stop being obtuse. Your troll is showing. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            You make a huge angry rant about some organization you hate so much that you can’t even call it by it’s name, and you expect me to understand, and I am a troll?

            Why am I having this conversation with you?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            “about some organization you hate so much that you can’t even call it by it’s name”

            So, now you DO know who were are talking about?!? 🙂

            “Why am I having this conversation with you?”

            Because you are a troll. 🙂

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, I still haven’t got the foggiest idea what “Planned Murder in Da Hood” is, it sounds like some hip hop group. And no, I’m not a troll for trying to at least find out what you THINK you’re saying before I abandon this conversation.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Of course you are trolling. You have admitted it, but you lack the self-awareness to recognize it.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, I haven’t admitted it, and I’m not admitting anything like it. You speak for one person, and that’s you. Time you learned that.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Are you still here?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Are you going to tell me what “Planned Murder in Da Hood” is, or not?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            You know full well.

            You are just getting paid to troll.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            PAID to troll.
            What’s the weather like on your planet?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Once you have been outed as a paid troll, don’t your masters require you to cease commenting, or at least you stop getting paid beyond that point? Is that why you are deleting some of your comments?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I haven’t deleted a single one of my comments. And I don’t get paid to write on a message forum.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Somebody else must have deleted them.

            Good thing you don’t get paid – you are not too good at it.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Going through my message history, I see only one that has a red box next to it saying REMOVED. I guess the admin here did that. You’ll have to ask them why.

          • robertzaccour

            Are we arguing on the internet again?

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            New account … negative comment/approval ratio … targeted purposefully divisive comments … It seems the only one here fitting the profile of being a troII here is you.
            Just sayin’ ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Right, because new users can never just show up. Do you see me trolling, or taking part in conversations?

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            New users posting the type of content you have been posting and focusing on just a few posters is typically a sign of someone who has been troIIing for a while and has come to the realization that they have been blocked by so many users that they now need a new account to get their comments seen. Of course, genuine new posters do show up from time to time, but they rarely target just a few people and begin confrontations right out of the gate..

            To answer your question, I see you troIIing. Aside from your first remark, a single reply to me and 201821208, then two replies to Martin, you have done nothing but give targeted replies to only three different posters. These comments have not been in a conversational tone. The content of your remarks and how you approach other posters easily falls within what is considered troIIish behavior. You may not like it, but that is how you have portrayed yourself so far.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I’ve made probably 20 posts in total. None were troll posts, but yes, most were in disagreement to what I consider bigotry. That isn’t trolling. Trolling would be name calling. This must be why people keep their profiles private. Lesson learned. Go scrutinize an ACTUAL troll.

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            Including this one you have made 80 posts, most of which are indeed troIIish. TroIIs hide their profiles because they can’t defend their behavior when it is looked at closely, a lesson you admit you learned. If you do not wish to be seen as a troII, then don’t act like one. It’s that simple.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No. My posts have stood up to hatred and bigotry. Exclusively, it would seem. That is not acting like a troll. Maybe on your planet, but not here. You haven’t got a leg to stand on, unless you would care to provide an example of what you refer to as trolling.

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            To use your own words. “My posts have stood up to hatred and bigotry. … Maybe on your planet, but not here.” Your inability to see that what you’re doing is troIIing at least proves that you are a genuine new poster.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            There are 81 comments in my feed. 1-15 no longer appear.

            80-81 – Responses to you

            78-79 – WorldGoneCrazy, each was one line and asked a single question and ignored a volley of his insults comparing me to a rapist, pedophile, murderer, sex trafficker and pimp. (good place to start if you’re looking for a REAL troll…)

            77 – response to you

            75-76 – responses to WorldGoneCrazy, defending myself against his charge of me being pro-abortion (I’m not). Asking why he is unwilling to supply women with birth control if he wants to see the problem of abortion go away. Suggested his problem wasn’t with abortion but with women being sexually active. Not a trolling comment but a real question.

            74 – to WorldGoneCrazy responding about a deleted message, which was deleted by the moderator and not me.

            73 – to WorldGoneCrazy defending against his charge of being a paid troll.

            72 – to WorldGoneCrazy waving off his ludicrous comparison between pregnant women and murderes and terrorists. And defending against the “paid troll” charge.

            62-71 – to Bottomline4This who called me stupid because I had the temerity to suggest that Catholics are Christians. Explained to him that gotquestions dot org is anti-Catholic and not taken seriously as a result by many Christians.

            61 and 59 – to Martin Smit who is mocking the order for a school to have a gay-straight alliance. I asked why it’s a problem to keep homosexual kids safe, which is what
            those alliances do. Martin told me I “delight in their perversity”.

            60 – to Amos Moses, asking why he’d like to see LGBT kids shunned, bullied and ostracized (as he is also opposing the GSA).

            58 – Asked Bottomline4This where in the story he saw anything in the story about someone WANTING to form a GSA at the school, as it was not mentioned.

            48-57 – to Amos Moses on transgenders whom he calls “mentally ill” but does not provide any medical credentials to make such a claim.

            39-47 – to WorldGoneCrazy, asking what “Planned Murder in Da Hood”, his expression, refers to. He has still not answered.

            38 – to WorldGoneCrazy and was deleted by the moderator. There seems to be no reason
            why it was removed. It asked why I am a “troll” for asking him what “Planned Murder in Da Hood” was (an expression he used).

            32-37 – to Amos Moses calling him on his “mentally ill” comments regarding transgenders.

            31 – to Ambulance Chaser, pointing out one of Amos’s posts was taken from a parody website and that Amos did not realize it was parody.

            30 – to Amos Moses, pointing out that Babylon Bee is a parody website (he had quoted from it thinking it was serious).

            20-29 – to WorldGoneCrazy – in which I’m accused of having an abortion (I
            haven’t…being a man that would be difficult). I explain my username is not female but the name of a vintage keyboard. I ask why he feels he should have control of women’s bodies in matters of abortion, rather than leaving it in the hands of the woman herself.

            28 – to 201821208 – suggesting gotquestions dot org is not a reputable website.

            27 – to The Bottomline4This asking what his issue is with euthanasia.

            21-26 – to WorldGoneCrazy asking about the effectiveness of forcing pictures of aborted fetuses on people minding their own business on sidewalks.

            25 – To TheBottomline4This using his “logic” back at him in a similar example.

            21-24 – to WorldGoneCrazy (see 21-26)

            19-20 – to TheBottomline4This – (see 21-26)

            17-18 – to Amos Moses asking why he’d compare homosexuals to murderers.

            16 – a general post about Donald Trump, asking why it’s news that his tax credit plan includes homosexuals.

            1-15 no longer appear in my feed.

            If you still want to call me a troll after this, you’ll need to tell me which of my comments above are troll comments. You might take the opposite side of the debate (and on a Christian forum I’m counting on that, although I DO defend Catholics in the above) but I don’t think anything I’ve written qualfies as trolling. Never mind being paid.

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            I never said anything about getting paid. Putting words in someone’s mouth is also something that troIIs do. So far you’re cementing my point. In regard to your posts … What you think you’re doing is irrelevant, and it does nothing to change the fact that what you’re doing is troIIing posters on this board.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Trolling is when you are just trying to be willfully difficult and annoying. Like when someone meticulously shows you how every post they have ever made are not troll posts and you continue to tell them they are “trolling posters on this board”.

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            Being annoying is only one style style of troIIing. What you’re doing is another. Are you new to the internet or something?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            When I take a contrary position to the person I’m talking to, I’m not trolling, I’m trying to reason with them. This is a difficult concept for you isn’t it?

          • ratamacue76 ✓ᵈᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

            You may think that is what you are doing; however, that is not the case.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            You’re not in any position to know that. In fact, you sound exactly like a troll yourself.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Excellent analysis!

  • Nidalap

    Hmm…this reaction still requires a certain instilled sense of morality in folks.
    This is not being passed on to the newer generation as it has been in the past.
    Future generations will not even be swayed by such images as the moral decay progresses.

    You folk eagerly anticipating the demise of the older generation aren’t going to be getting exactly the utopia you envision…

  • BeBeX

    If the ravages of cigarette smoking can post images of the damage then why can the ravages of abortion?????