Petition Drive Underway in Florida to Criminalize Abortion as First-Degree Murder

newborn-ii-compressedTAMPA, Fla. — A petition drive is underway in Florida in an effort to place a measure on the 2018 ballot that would amend the state constitution to criminalize abortion as murder.

“Inasmuch as abortion deprives an innocent human being of the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, any person who performs or procures an abortion shall be guilty of premeditated murder in the first degree, and any person who attempts to perform or procure an abortion shall be guilty of felony attempted murder,” the proposed constitutional amendment reads.

It defines abortion as being “the use or prescription of any instrument, medicine, drug, or any other substance or device, to intentionally kill an unborn human being” and marks conception as beginning at fertilization as opposed to conception.

Abolish Abortion Florida, which is behind the effort, says that the goal of the petition is not only to collect enough signatures to make it on the 2018 ballot, but to also encourage politicians to put forward legislation that would outlaw abortion rather than regulate it.

“The Supreme Court cannot make murder legal. Pro-life politicians have passed incremental regulations for decades, but it’s time to abolish abortion by recognizing it for what it is—cold-blooded murder—and prosecuting it accordingly,” the group said in a statement.

It estimates that 72,000 children in Florida lose their lives every year by abortion.

As previously reported, a similar ballot proposal was submitted in Ohio, and would have prosecuted abortion as aggravated murder.

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“No person shall perform, procure or attempt to perform an abortion,” the text read. “Whoever violates this section is guilty of aggravated murder and shall be punished in accordance with the penalties for that crime …”

It noted that the measure would not apply to contraception, unfertilized eggs or IVF procedures.

The petition was rejected last month by Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine as some of the signatures collected could not be counted as valid, making the effort fall short of the required number of signatures by just over 150.

Oklahoma Sen. Joe Silk, R-Broken Bow, also introduced a bill earlier this year that would have added killing an unborn child to existing murder statutes.

“No person shall perform or induce or attempt to perform or induce an abortion after conception,” it read. “A person commits murder in the first degree when that person performs an abortion as defined by Section 1-745.5 of Title 63 of the Oklahoma Statutes.”

The measure passed the Health and Human Services Committee, but was then stalled by Republican leadership who opined that the move was too “extreme.”

“I’ve had other senators come up and say this goes too far, and I say, ‘Do you think life begins at conception?’ and they say, ‘Absolutely.’ So, if you believe life begins at conception then it’s not too far,” Silk told reporters.

A separate bill introduced by Sen. Nathan Dahm, R-Broken Arrow, that would revoke the medical license of any physician who performs an abortion, passed both houses, but was vetoed by Gov. Mary Fallin.

Editor’s Note: Those desiring to sign the Florida petition may do so by clicking here.


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  • Reason2012

    The problem is we think our inconvenience is more important than the life of another human being. If you do not want to risk creating a human being in your womb, then you practice abstinence / monogamy. If you’re willing to risk it for pleasure, then you need to deal with the FACT that you are now responsible for another human being. Worse case, give her up for adoption – far better option than_killing her.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      No, the problem is we think a fetus us a human being.

      • AkRidgie

        Then if they are not human, what are they?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          A fetus. Or a zygote. Or an embryo. Or many things that are not yet human.

          • Amos Moses

            So we just throw out the science of genetics ….. because ….. its convenient to ignore it? …….. but i thought you were the all science guy ….. please explain how it becomes anything but human but then somehow converts to a human being ,,,,,, oh, never mind …. you cant ……. because all you are saying on this subject is just subjective garbage …………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            You want me to describe human gestation? You can look it up yourself.

          • Amos Moses

            no ……. i want you to give the scientific explanation for this garbage you are spewing ….. because you do not seem to have ANY coherent science to back what you are saying ….

          • Amos Moses

            FYI …. “A fetus. Or a zygote. Or an embryo.” HAS to be a “A fetus. Or a zygote. Or an embryo.” OF SOMETHING ……………. SO WHAT IS IT ….. you have not answered the question ……………..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            What it is depends on what stage it’s at.

          • Amos Moses

            so again …. throwing out the SCIENCE of genetics ……….and it does not answer the question of when and how this change takes place …………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Seriously, are you asking me to describe the process of human gestation? What is it you want me to tell you?

          • Amos Moses

            you cant explain what you are saying with science…..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            As soon as you tell me what it is you want explained, I will.

          • Amos Moses

            how the genes become something not human but then at some point become human ….. what principle of genetics is that ….

          • Tangent002

            I shed skin cells every day that contain my entire genetic make-up, yet those cells are not human beings.

          • Amos Moses

            NOPE ….. and they are still human ………. they do not stop being human just because you shed them ….. you have to follow science …… in utero …. every single one of the cells is a human …. an egg and a sperm are a human being when combined …… they do not stop being that …….. so to say “it is a zygote” ….. a WHAT zygote …..

          • E-BILLBOARDS

            Jer 1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,
            Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, so?

          • Amos Moses

            Maybe a lawyer ………..

            Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

          • Tex Mandel

            You can make up as many names as you choose to, but it doesn’t take the fact away that the baby inside the mother’s womb is a human being, a defenseless child. If those babies weren’t human, why has there been documentation of babies screaming in pain when they are being murdered? If they aren’t human, why do they respond to human interactions while in the womb? If they aren’t human, why do they kick and move around while inside the womb? The whole issue is that while the baby is inside the womb that child cannot be seen, nor can they hold a conversation, so so many people has dehumanized them. But that does not take the fact away that they are human, whether you want to accept it or not. Aren’t you glad your mom saw you as a human being while you were in her womb, and not just an object that can be discarded like a piece of trash?

            While I see the death penalty being too harsh of a punishment, I view punishment is needed for murdering a child.

            I see it ironic that in the case of an abortion, that child is not considered a human being and is ok to murder that child, while if someone kills a pregnant woman, that person is charged with a double murder, and usually given the death penalty. Why is it that an unborn child a human justifiable for someone to be charged with murder in one case, but not the other?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            “If those babies weren’t human, why has there been documentation of babies screaming in pain when they are being murdered? If they aren’t human, why do they respond to human interactions while in the womb? If they aren’t human, why do they kick and move around while inside the womb?”

            While I doubt there’s any documented evidence, it’s irrelevant because “screaming in pain” and “having interaction” are not parts of the definition of being human. Otherwise, your ham sandwich would like a word with you.

          • Chet

            One day, you’ll have ample opportunity to present this argument for the taking of the lives of unborn unwanted little ones. And you’ll do it before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the giver of all life. But you won’t like the response, my man. You might want to engage in critical thinking and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ as He will give you truth…

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Do you have an argument that doesn’t require me to already believe your theology?

          • Chet

            No, nothing beyond “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this, the judgment” Hebrews 9:27, Holy Bible. And death comes to all men without exception and often without notice. Thus, it’s always best to have Christ in one’s heart to be prepared for eternity. Hope this helps and thanks for the opportunity to share the good news, Jesus saves…

          • Tony

            so You think they are a Maggot a parasite ? But then a premature baby it
            is a baby at that point? You are illogical. A chicken egg is still a
            chicken and it is a fertilized egg is in fact what the host parents are.
            and it is not a disease that can be cured with a pill. it is not a
            cancer it is NOT a Cyst. It is in Fact a life. It has DNA that is Human.
            it doesn’t matter how small it is still Human. Murder is still Murder.
            An eye for an eye. thou stelt not murder. The English bible has been
            translated wrong into English. the work kill means Murder. Anyone that questions human or not is Not a Christian and not worth life. They die in the second death. Yes, judge not lest yee be judged , but you can’t help but come to this conclusion. The words a person uses says something deeper than just the words themselves.

          • Deborahreed

            And, you are an authority on this, right? Obviously, you are very young, stupid, or extremely self-serving. Probably all three.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            And your authority is, what?

          • Deborahreed

            I am not an “authority”, but have much more experience than you – having miscarried one child and giving birth to two, for starters. Have you ever carried a child? No? Then, you have no idea of what a life inside of you is like. Oh, I also studied biology in college, but that is nothing compared to seeing ultrasounds of the living human inside. Have you ever viewed an ultrasound to see the tiny human inside? No? “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.” Psalm 139:13-16. But, since you are obviously an unbeliever, this will mean nothing to you. You will continue on in your culture of death, making excuses that are almost humorous were they not so cold-blooded. Pity.

          • E-BILLBOARDS

            Authority of YHVA

            Jer 1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,
            Jer 1:5 “Before I
            formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;
            I appointed you as a prophet to the nations

          • FollowDaMoney

            All your little “not yet” names are for the same lump of tissue(individual/human). Similar to infant, toddler, preschooler, grade school kid, Jr. Higher, High school kid, college kid, basement dweller, parent, grand parent. You are murdering a human.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I went to middle school with lots of preteens. None of them were zygotes or embryos. Zygotes and embryos can’t do homework or participate in class. Or literally anything.

          • FollowDaMoney

            From where did your preteens come? You advocate killing the process.

          • Tony

            so You think they are a Maggot a parasite ? A maggot is still a Fly. But then a premature baby it
            is a not baby at any point? You are illogical. A chicken egg is still a
            chicken and it is a fertilized egg is in fact what the host parents are.
            and it is not a disease that can be cured with a pill. it is not a
            cancer it is NOT a Cyst. It is in Fact a life. It has DNA that is Human.
            it doesn’t matter how small it is still Human. Murder is still Murder.
            An eye for an eye. thou stelt not murder. The English bible has been
            translated wrong into English. the work kill means Murder. Anyone that
            questions human or not is Not a Christian and not worth life. They die
            in the second death. Yes, judge not lest yee be judged , but you can’t
            help but come to this conclusion. The words a person uses says something
            deeper than just the words themselves.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            What?

          • Tony

            so You think they are a Maggot a parasite ? But then a premature baby it is a baby at that point? You are illogical. A chicken egg is still a chicken and it is a fertilized egg is in fact what the host parents are. and it is not a disease that can be cured with a pill. it is not a cancer it is NOT a Cyst. It is in Fact a life. It has DNA that is Human. it doesn’t matter how small it is still Human. Murder is still Murder. An eye for an eye. thou stelt not murder. The English bible has been translated wrong into English. the work kill means Murder.

      • Amos Moses

        Yep …. the first step to genocide is to de-humanize …..

        • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

          For people like AC It is easy to dehumanize the Unborn Humans. They can try to justify the killing of unborn humans if they pretend they are not human 🙁 They refuse to see that we cannot de-humanize what God created.

        • Tangent002

          You mean like you do with homosexuals?

          • Amos Moses

            i do not de-humanize them … they dehumanize themselves …. i would have them NOT do that and be saved in Christ Jesus ………..

          • Tangent002

            You’ve just taken the first step to genocide.

          • Amos Moses

            salvation in Christ is dehumanization …….. got it ……….. what color is the sky in your world ……….

          • Tangent002

            “They dehumanize themselves” is the claim of every brutal despot.

          • Amos Moses

            no …. that is scripture ….. they do what is inconvenient ….. and it is not what i would have for them …. and neither what scripture wants for them ….. they seek to destroy themselves as they have no respect for the creation they are …… their lives are ended 20 years prematurely on average by their actions ….. has nothing to do with me or any christian ….. they do it to themselves ………….

      • Reason2012

        Hitler thought the problem was people thought Jewish people were human beings. He would be proud of you using his logic.
        So when a person is in their mother’s womb the day before they come out, they are not a human being? Please prove they are not a human being and prove what happens to make them a human being where a moment ago they were not a human being.
        No, you are quite wrong.
        A fetus is a human being.
        A baby is a human being.
        A child is a human being.
        A teenager is a human being.
        And so on.
        If you wish to claim otherwise, by all means back up your claim with scientific fact.

        • Trilemma

          A human embryo is certainly a human being but it is not a person. There needs to be an organized brain in order for a fetus to be considered a person and have the legal rights of a person. The brain of a fetus doesn’t start to be truly organized until around week eighteen to twenty.

          • Reason2012

            So you and some like you claim the fetus is a human being, other pro-death activists claim the fetus is not a human being.
            So which one of you is lying?

            You need to get your pro-death talking points agreed upon before you try to pretend it’s something based on fact.

            So it’s ok to_kill a human being, but it’s not ok to_kill a “person”? Where’s that law that claims this?!

            Where’s the law that defines that some human beings are not persons?

            So if Hitler made people claim the Jews were not “persons” and then it’s fine to_kill them?

            So how convenient to pretend it’s fine to kill_human beings as long as we claim they’re not “persons”, then come up with a convenient definition of “person” – proves my point exactly.

            A person is a human being, a human being is a person. Words mean what they say.

          • Trilemma

            If the terms “human being” and “person” mean the exact same thing then a human embryo is not a human being or a person. Currently, the law only recognizes those who have been born as persons. There will have to be laws passed to recognize a fetus as a person.

          • Tangent002

            ‘Person’ or not, ‘human being’ or not, ‘baby’ or not, a developing fetus has no rights that supersede those of the mother until the point of viability.

            No-one can compel their existence to be solely and uniquely reliant on the direct physical contribution of another. If you were dying and the only way you could be saved is if I gave you a blood transfusion, I could still legally refuse and allow you to die.

          • Tony

            so You think they are a Maggot a parasite ? A maggot is still a fly, But then a premature baby it
            is a baby at any point before it is born into the world? You are illogical. A chicken egg is still a
            chicken and it is a fertilized egg is in fact what the host parents are.
            and it is not a disease that can be cured with a pill. it is not a
            cancer it is NOT a Cyst. It is in Fact a life. It has DNA that is Human.
            it doesn’t matter how small it is still Human. Murder is still Murder.
            An eye for an eye. thou stelt not murder. The English bible has been
            translated wrong into English. the work kill means Murder. Anyone that
            questions human or not is Not a Christian and not worth life. They die
            in the second death. Yes, judge not lest yee be judged , but you can’t
            help but come to this conclusion. The words a person uses says has something
            deeper than just the words themselves.

          • Trilemma

            Murder is the crime of deliberately killing a person. An embryo is not a person because it doesn’t have a soul which requires an organized brain. To make killing an embryo murder will probably require an amendment to the Constitution at this point.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            … and, not a citizen my any definition.
            .

      • FollowDaMoney

        You are kidding? Right?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          No. I’m not.

      • Chet

        Well now, let’s see. Believe God’s Word that has lasted thousands of years and will abide forever. Or perhaps favor the talking points of some uninformed doubting sinner who’s yet to come to Christ for His abundant mercy and grace. Then, such a one also receives illumination of his heart and mind via the then indwelling Holy Spirit… Make this invitation your own personal matter of “choice”, Sir… And be sure to choose wisely…

  • Cobra

    theses women are murders of their very own blood…how much lower can a person go

    • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

      I don’t think we can get much lower than that.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Yes, abortion is murder – brutal taking away of innocent life, and the murder practice must get halted.

  • james blue

    Even in the reddest of red states personhood ballots fail so I don’t see this getting far at all

  • the greedy boat

    so either life in prison or the death penalty for women and doctors. good luck with that. heh. heh.

  • Trilemma

    The law being proposed here already exists in El Salvador. There are women in prison in El Salvador for murder because their miscarriages were not witnessed by a doctor. This law will ultimately be ruled unconstitutional and is a waste of time and money.

    Making abortion illegal will not significantly reduce the number of abortions; it will just make them illegal and unsafe like they were before Roe v. Wade. The focus needs to be on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies.

  • RWH

    Just remember. Our legal system goes by precedents. Once legislation gets enacted that take away someone’s control over their own body, you can start a chain reaction. Tell a woman that she cannot control her pregnancy, and the next step is to have the courts declare that you cannot control your body in other ways. This can lead to unwanted medical procedures or the denial of medical procedures. This could possibly include procedures that would save the lives of the elderly. Or mandatory vaccinations. People may not like abortion, but once you take away a person’s right to undisputed control their own body, you open the door to all sorts of unwanted things.

    • Reason2012

      So a daughter being_killed is not “taking away control over her own body”? And therein is where your argument falls completely apart.

      A woman has control over her own body – she can decide whether to have_sex or not. If she chooses to take that risk and creates another human being, it does not mean she has the right to_kill this new human being.

  • E-BILLBOARDS

    Best to heed to the TRUTH

    Jer 1:4 The word of the LORD came to me, saying,
    Jer 1:5 “Before I
    formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart;
    I appointed you as a prophet to the nations

  • Ex Tempore

    …Bill Maher (tv host and Cornell University graduate), has a blog that claims Jesus Christ NEVER existed!…..that being said, why is religion applied to this abortion debate…?

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

    The battle against this atrocity begins with identifying it correctly. By calling it “abortion,” we’ve already acquiesced to the opposition’s terminology. Look up “abortion” and “miscarriage” in any
    dictionary. A miscarriage is an abortion. What doctors (and parents) do to infants in the womb is infanticide. Had Roe v. Wade been waged over infanticide rather than abortion, it would have never made it to the court room. In fact, by employing the word “abortion,” Roe v. Wade was won before it ever got to court.

    The Greek word “brephos” employed in the New Testament for infants already born is the same word used for infants in the womb (Luke 2:12 and Luke 1:41), without specifying the precise moment they became a “brephos.” Therefore, our only option is to then accept that they became such at conception. Thus, intentionally killing a brephos at any point is “brephocide” or, more properly, infanticide.

    The point being, we Christians need to stop using the non-Christians’ watered-down, politically correct terms such as “abortion” and “gay.” It’s infanticide and sodomy. There is no power in the former terms against evil and our first mistake is in acquiescing to the ungodly’s terminology.

  • Peter Blaise

    .
    ~90% of abortions in the US are on zygotes that have no brain.

    The majority of women seeking abortion in the US are mothers with existing families and children.

    The inside of an existing citizen’s body is outside the jurisdiction of the big ( pick your favorite word for invaders of privacy ) fascist socialist communist fundamentalist religionist unconstitutional government.

    How barbarian to say that …

    … “… If a man can get a women pregnant,
    then the government will force her to bing that man’s pregnancy to term
    …”

    Seriously?

    What about the murder of human spermatozoa — they are independent living human tissue, independently alive outside the human body, and have no brain.

    What about the murder of human eggs — they are independent living human tissue, and have no brain.

    I do not think we have looked long and hard enough for murderers of independent living human … well … beings, even if unborn.

    We all need to put our heads together and look harder, so sit down for some hard work, and take your tie and jacket off, we’re in for a bumpy ride.
    .