Barna Study: ‘More Than Four Out of Ten Evangelicals’ Rejecting Both Trump and Clinton

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A recent Barna study shows that although many of those who identify as evangelical support the presidential candidacy of Republican nominee Donald Trump, more than four out of ten evangelicals currently reject both Trump and Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

The organization surveyed 1,023 adults, including 627 likely voters, to conduct its study. Those expressing support for Trump included evangelicals (55 percent for Trump as opposed to 2 percent for Clinton), those who claim to have a biblical worldview (57 percent to 30 percent), and those who believe in absolute moral truth (48 percent to 37 percent).

Those supporting Clinton included those who profess to be Christians but are not born again (48 percent for Clinton to 36 percent for Trump), those who identify with other faiths ( 37 percent to 30 percent), atheists and agnostics (61 percent to 18 percent), and Roman Catholics (45 percent to 35 percent).

But Barna found that while some have selected a side, others have stated that they don’t feel comfortable with voting for either candidate.

“Although Trump has a huge lead over Clinton among evangelicals, the most noteworthy finding in this regard is that more than four out of ten evangelicals currently refuse to vote for either of those two candidates,” analyst George Barna said in an Oct. 10 post, outlining the results.

“Nearly three out of ten are presently undecided, making them the largest block of undecided votes still up for grabs,” he stated, and “[o]ne out of eight evangelicals plan to protest the quality of the major party candidates by voting for a third-party or independent candidate.”

“This behavior by evangelicals is unique over the course of the last nine election cycles,” he said, advising that if the election were held now, the evangelical vote for the Republican candidate would be 20 percentage points less than what it has been the last five elections.

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Although not a part of the Barna study, among those rejecting both candidates includes John Piper, chancellor of Bethlehem College and Seminary in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He Tweeted last week following the release of the 2005 Trump sexual assault boasting tape that “Trump should step down,” but “[s]o should Hillary.”

“That is what ‘unqualified’ means. It’s never been a question,” he said.

Wayne Grudem, professor of Theology and Biblical Studies at Phoenix Seminary, withdrew his endorsement of Trump following the release of the video and after reviewing sexually-charged remarks made on the Howard Stern Show. He noted that he couldn’t vote for Clinton either and wasn’t sure what to do.

“I am not now sure who I am going to vote for. I absolutely will not vote for Clinton,” Grudem said.

Erick Erickson of The Resurgent also opined earlier this year that Christians shouldn’t feel obligated to choose between Clinton and Trump, and advised that he will not do so personally.

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“I have come to the conclusion that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are just two forms of evil. Just because Donald Trump’s evil has an elephant mascot does not make his evil more acceptable than Hillary Clinton’s,” he said. “I take Charles Spurgeon’s view that between two evils, I should choose neither.”

“Christians are under no obligation to pick the lesser of two evils or judge between the evils of two lessers,” Erickson wrote. “We can withhold our endorsement by withholding our vote. We have the right to participate in the process, but just because we have the right does not mean we have to exercise that right.”

Guest poster Brian Mattson, senior scholar of public theology for the Center for Cultural Leadership, echoed Erickson’s remarks on Monday.

“I believe the promotion and support of Donald Trump by Christian leaders is just as damaging to Christian public witness as the prospect of a Clinton presidency,” he wrote. “Under Clinton, we may eventually be muzzled. Under Trump, we might be free to broadcast from the rooftops, but everyone will ignore us [for compromising on morality]. Rightly ignore us.”

“I believe the Christian reaction to this election should be sackcloth and ashes. Revulsion and repentance,” Mattson said. “I have made my decision, and all I can do is commend it to you: I refuse to lend my name to either candidate.”


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  • Roy Payne

    While I agree with the evangelicals quoted in this article, as a pastor I am still on the fence. If only a strong third party candidate (other than Johnson or Stein) would announce their candidacy, even at this late date, (especially someone like Cruz), I would vote for them. But if they refuse to make a viable push for the presidency, I believe a third party vote will result in a Clinton victory and that means an unbelievably liberal SCOTUS that will herald the loss of Constitutional rights, especially the 1st & 2nd Amendments. For this reason alone, I am leaning toward Trump.

    • Nedd Kareiva

      Trump is the right call, Pastor, follow your correct leanings. The alternative is unthinkable and Johnson and Stein have zero chance of winning. Additionally, Johnson’s VP is anti-gun and has a strong record of that as the former governor of Massachusetts. Thus that ticket is a non-starter. As a Pentecostal Christian for nearly 40 years, I have zero hesitation in voting for Trump and am very much at peace in doing so. God bless you.

      • Penny LB Perkins

        Stein indorsed Trump.

        • Nedd Kareiva

          I ran a Google News check, didn’t see that anywhere. Can you cite me a source and I’ll look it up?

          • Penny LB Perkins

            Sure I’ll get back to you!

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Thanks, Penny. When I wrote what I did, I didn’t mean it in a skeptical or accusatory way as some leftists do when they post. I just came up dry. Anyway, look forward to what you find.

          • Penny LB Perkins

            did you get my reply? I can’t find it.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            I didn’t see any, Penny. If you can’t get it up here, just send it to me at nedd at inbox dot com. Thanks.

          • Penny LB Perkins

            Ok hope it takes this time!! My computer is in the shop and I had to go use library

        • Penny LB Perkins

          Fact Check, Jill Stein did comment on Trump being the better choice but an official endorsement was not the intent. She took down Hillary though and that is wonderful news!!

      • Roy Payne

        I agree that Trump seems to be what is best for the country, if (and it’s a huge “IF”) he can and will do what he currently says he plans. But in the course of the last few months, I’ve seen him change his rhetoric on so many things! And it just breaks my heart to think that the “best” candidate is a thoroughly unsaved, reprobate, foul-mouthed, casino-owning billionaire whom I would not care to spend an hour, much less have as my president. If American ends up with this man in the White House, it will say more about Americans that words could ever say. As I keep telling a friend of mine, at this point I believe the Supreme Court is the most important issue. I cannot allow Killary to appoint multiple leftists to the bench who will shred our 1st and 2nd Amendment rights.

        • Nedd Kareiva

          You’re right to look at the high court but we should also look at Trump as a clean slate to all the politicians in DC. Since Trump can’t be bought, he can devote to an American agenda instead of a globalist one and he won’t kowtow to the special interests and donors. The all-Americanism of Trump is of special appeal to me.

    • Penny LB Perkins

      I agree. I prayed for Cruz, campaigned for Cruz but God had other plans for him. Franklin and Billy Graham have had much wisdom on the issue and my Pastor also. I am thankful that God has put these men in our lives and we seek their wisdom.

      • Roy Payne

        I agree with you, Penny. Though I’m not sure Billy is saying much these days, I have appreciated a lot of what Franklin has said. But like so many other Christian leaders, he will not come out and say, “I believe we should support Trump.” Only that he’s very definite that we should not support Killary. It turns my stomach to envision myself coloring in that circle on the ballot beside “Donald Trump”. But I also cannot see any write-in candidate winning and that means, “Hello, President Clinton.” God forbid!!

        • Penny LB Perkins

          Billy had announced yesterday his position.

    • George Forleo

      Darrell Castle of the Constitution Party.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Under Hillary, more children will get killed and the Christians will lose freedom. Each state should have more autonomy to prevent the slavery by the liberals.

    • Penny LB Perkins

      yes, as a Nation and individually may God grant us protection from tyranny though we donnot deserve it as a country.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Americans are born for freedom; not just the lions are free. American Christians kept the world’s freedom; it should not be taken away by the rich pervs after 400 years. As long as there are Christians, there is freedom.

  • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

    Hypocrites & Pharisees will not vote for Trump, because that will be a vote for the QUEEN of ABORTIONS. God is watching who is judging Trump who has REPENTED worldwide, not like many of us have to do that. Luke-warm christians better wake up, we know what the Bible says about being luke-warm and being a hypocrite. Trump is a GOOD man and God has given us a GOOD choice that LOVES America & loves Americans.

    • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      Did you see the second projectveritasaction video that was released today? It’s worse than the first one.

      • Amos Moses

        Watching it now …. WOW …………… the mask … the veil …. the pretense ripped away ………. the massive corruption revealed before final judgement ……………

      • Amos Moses

        4 Million Ineligible and Dead Voters on Voting Rolls…
        Voter Fraud USA…
        O’KEEFE: Dems Explain How to Commit Fraud…
        Rigging Elections for 50 Years…
        They Incite Violence at Trump Rallies…
        Pay homeless to cause disruptions…
        Activist who bragged about starting Chicago riot was on Hillary payroll…

      • Amos Moses

        Why Did Vote-Rigging Robert Creamer Visit The White House Over 200 Times During The Obama Admin

        on ZeroHedge ……………

      • Amos Moses

        BREAKING News: Bob Creamer, top @HillaryClinton campaign advisor, “STEPS DOWN” after today’s video. Here is part of his statement..

      • Amos Moses

        Dem Operative Who Oversaw Trump Rally Agitators Visited White House 342 Times

        Daily caller is saying it is even higher ……….

        Another vid today i guess ……….

        • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          I don’t know if one’s dropping today or not, but there are more to come this week. Hillary’s on camera in at least one of them.

        • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Here it is, Amos:

          DNC Schemes to Bully Women at Trump Rally

          • Amos Moses

            Thnx

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            It’s a short one (about a minute) because he doesn’t want to release anything that will get lost in the debate. The big one should be dropping later this week, possibly even tomorrow.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You might want to try this too:

            twitterDOTcom/WDFx2EU7/status/788735398792957956

    • uninvitedguest

      sure. do good men cal women pigs, grope them, make fun of the mentally and physically challenged, curse, talk about grabbing women’s genitals? sounds like a good “christian” to me……..

      • Penny LB Perkins

        I am not quick to call him a Christian just yet. I’ll wait to see fruit. On the other hand you have a woman who has communist ideals, censors speech with the help of cohorts and Obama. Are choice is clear freedom or communism.

        • uninvitedguest

          Clinton is not nor has she ever been communist. That is yet another repugnican talking point and funny to the bone due to it being overtly ridiculous.

          • Penny LB Perkins

            Bahahaha LOOK at what she really believes on wikileaks, you know the other personality of Hillary

  • james blue

    Apparently 4 out of ten evangelicals actually hold their values as principles.

    It’s easy to claim principles, it’s hard to stand by them.

  • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Most of those people are a.) divorced, b.) have committed adultery, c.) lie regularly, d.) steal, e.) are not really born again, f.)don’t have good discernment.

    Some of the most vocal never Trumpers are the biggest hypocrites.

    • Nedd Kareiva

      Absolutely right on all counts. Excellent points. Most of the Never Trumpers (Washington establishment types) know it’s the end of their political games if Trump wins. That’s why they oppose him.

      • uninvitedguest

        trump has zero chances of winning t this point. funny that the real hypocrites are the “christians” supporting the man. he’s done himself in for this election

        • Penny LB Perkins

          LOL And you are NOT a hypocrite in your self righteousness? You want to see the constitution destroyed, more babie parts sold to the highest bidder, you prefer a women who has aided and enabled a serial rapist and has dealings with the very enemy that is causing havoc, beheadings, rape, torture,disfigurement of not only men but women as well?? Sick.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            uninvitedguest, by his own admission, is not a Christian.

          • uninvitedguest

            LOL! You have no idea as to who I support . I love ypur vlinton propaganda….typical of this site. I would say that those who support trumpy and claim to be christian are the sick ones and definitely hypocrites.

        • Nedd Kareiva

          So what’s your source that Trump has zero chance – the criminal enterprise known as the lamestream media?

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        He’ll clean up corruption, abolish the drug trade, stop the pedo rings – that’s what they’re afraid of anyway.

    • uninvitedguest

      any proof to verify your statement? I am a never trump person who doesnt fall into any of your categories…hmmmm.

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        You’re not a professing Christian.

        • uninvitedguest

          so no proof then? got it. bearing false witness….

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Dude, you yourself have said you’re not a Christian. Those are your words. Did you forget which persona you’re operating under tonight?

          • uninvitedguest

            still no proof of your statement about never trumpers? got it.

          • uninvitedguest

            Gotcha…still bearing false witness

  • Amos Moses

    HILLARY FIXER BREAKS RANKS: ARRANGED SEX TRYSTS FOR HER!
    WITH MEN AND WOMEN

  • Nedd Kareiva

    In the past, sitting this thing out might be understandable. But not in today’s world. Words is out that Dr. Dobson led Trump to Christ. Whether true or not, there are Christians sitting down with Trump and apparently he is listening. He has pledged to have the Johnson Amendment (which restricts pastors’ 1st Amendment rights) repealed, he has pledge to keep Planned Parenthood defunded and will keep criminal illegals and other illegals out, among other things. But no, self-righteous hypocrites and ideological puritans like Mr. Erickson (who will block anyone at his site who believes Barack is not natural born) and these Mattson & Grudem characters would rather hold to a 100% purity standard to get elected. In that light, Jesus would have rejected King David from sitting on his throne during the Millennium because David did things far worse than Trump, like committing adultery with Bathsheba and killing her husband so he could have her. Yet God thru His Son Jesus chose to elevate David above anyone else who has ever lived. And so you puritans want to reject Trump because of a few things in his past and some accusations which almost certainly are totally baseless? Sorry, you buzzards. Count me out of your fellowship. I’m in with Trump and sans apology.

    • Amos Moses

      The “Johnson Amendement” is Voluntary …. and if your church volunteered to bow to another power …. it is on them …. the church is not tax exempt … it is tax IMMUNE ………

      We need to stop making unsupported and unsupportable assertions of biblical stories and our current problems and eisegesis …. scripture is NOT about us …. it is about Christ …. and we should not be trying to insert ourselves into a text to make a point ……… and David was REPENTANT ….. i do not see any evidence by DJTs behavior or his words that he is ………..

      • Nedd Kareiva

        So do you claim to have a lock on knowing what’s in the man’s heart? That aside, I stand by my statements as a Christian (and Bible school grad with a few years in the ministry) and believe Trump is God’s man for today.

        • Amos Moses

          See ….. you do not either …. and yet you have made a JUDGEMENT that you do ….. but whom ever disagrees with you is not allowed to do the samething …. and i never claimed i did ……… HIS ACTIONS do not speak to the idea that he has become regenerate ….. and there has to be evidence …. AND I SEE NONE ………..

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Of course you see none, your eyes are closed and you don’t want Trump. Fine. That’s your choice. I assume you’re then voting for the Hildabeest, would I be correct?

          • Amos Moses

            it makes no difference what i want …. and again you are making judgements …. if we are not allowed to make judgements … WHY ARE YOU ….. so are we allowed by scripture to make judgements or not ………………………. do we have AUTHORITY to judge who is in the church and who is not …..

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Yeah, I am making judgments, Famous Amos, you got a problem with that? Take it up with the Almighty. Read John 7:24 “Judge not according to appearance but judge righteous judgment”. I observe, then make observations. I don’t apologize for that. Based on what you wrote, it appears you’re voting for Hitlery. If I’m wrong, you should tell me so. Since you didn’t give me a straight YES or NO, then I am assuming I am correct in who I claim you’re voting for.

          • Amos Moses

            Good …. so we have established that we CAN and DO have AUTHORITY to do so ……… and you think because you spent some years in a “bible college” and in “ministry” that your discernment outweighs the rest of the voting public and their judgement ……………….. Hillary is UTTERLY EVIL ………. does that clear things up for you …………… but that DOES NOT mean the alternative is ANY BETTER ……………… does that clear things up for you ……

            What is at stake is THE GOSPEL and CHRISTIAN WITNESS and DISCERNMENT of what is going on ………… and your pontificating about the results of a persons vote and their responsibility for the actions carried out by that vote ………..

            IS UNSCRIPTURAL …………………….

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Yes, Holy Moses, I do believe my discernment outweighs a vast majority of the public and I am not afraid to say so. The Bible is quite clear on Christians being in agreement and one accord and when I see Christians divided on whether to support Trump, that concerns me cuz we’re not in unity. It means some are not hearing from the Almighty and some are. I am beyond convinced that Trump is the right man, a flawed man, for sure (but aren’t we all?) but a man I believe God has raised for such a time as this, an American and not a globalist like Obeelzebub, a person who can’t be bought but one who will bring down the establishment and the criminal elements in the Obama Administration and Hillary’s would be administration. We need to put aside our personal pride and prejudices in looking for a perfect candidate (none exist) and get behind Donald J. Trump. The alternative is unthinkable. And given your avatar, assuming you are a black man, let me assure you that I personally know and have talked to a number of blacks here in the Chicago area and they are ALL voting for Trump. I pray at the end of the day you will too.

          • Amos Moses

            “The Bible is quite clear on Christians being in agreement and one accord and when I see Christians divided on whether to support Trump”

            Bible is clear …. there is no unity JUST for the sake of UNITY …. we are NOT to be unequally yoked with unbelievers ….. not in question ….. your arrogance as to your discernment … also not in question ….. the division is being caused by lack of discernment and false teaching and false teachers who apparently do not know the scriptures ……… and you have yet to give one to support your position ……. we are not in unity for a reason ….. false teaching and false teachers and abandonment of the Gospel …. so unless you have some SCRIPTURE to support what you say …. why should anyone pay attention …. ESPECIALLY a bible believing christian ………

          • Nedd Kareiva

            The verse in Corinthians about being unequally yoked has to do with relationships, not political leaders to the Christian community. Strike 1 against you. My arrogance – doggone right I am but at the same time, very knowledgeable in the things I’m talking about, Famous Amos. All you want to do is find some excuse not to support Trump (perhaps your own arrogance). The fact he’s not a politician and a successful businessman is why he merits my support, not to mention the wall he wants to build to keep criminals, terrorists and illegals out (which he has strong support from me and many others) and much more. You blacks need to get behind him – you need jobs, your inner cities are being ripped apart from crime (I know what I’m talking about, being in the vicinity of Chicago proper) and they are in desperate need of stability. Put aside your pride and get behind the Donald, it’s the right thing to do, both Biblically and otherwise.

          • Amos Moses

            6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
            6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
            6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
            6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
            6:18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

            Not just relationships of a personal nature ….. i am not talking about whether you want to support him or not … i do not care …. i have asked for your biblical support for your assertion that not voting for your candidate means some responsibility for the candidates actions …………. IT DOES NOT ……………….. your assertions …. and others …. that DJT is some sort of “Cyrus” being raised up …. that is eisegesis ….. NOT EXEGESIS … and it is improper use of scripture ………… and it is also saying God cannot raise up a Donald Trump to be a Donald Trump …… you have no SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for these erroneous uses of scripture …………….

          • Nedd Kareiva

            So who made you the sole arbiter that my belief that Trump is a form of Cyrus (which I did not originate) that this is eisegesis and not exegesis? I don’t have the time to debate you in this particular forum. You seem to be some self-righteous dude. If you are in the Midwest somewhere and want to have a public debate over this, just let me know and I will set up all the particulars. Your opinion is your opinion. I do not agree with it and in a public forum, I will dismantle it to shreds. But I cannot continue doing so in a Disqus forum. However, if you are saying that Trump supporters are wrong because they violate the passage in II Corinthians, that is an eisegesis that does not line up with scripture.

          • Amos Moses

            i am making nothing of you and Trump …. i am speaking to the misuse of scripture ………. and actually it is narcigesis …. reading ourselves into the text …… was not accusing you of originating it …. but a lot of people are falling into it ….. wanting the scriptures to be respected as Gods word and properly applied does not make one self righteous ….. it makes them competent to do so ………. you are making support or non-support out to be some kind of issue of salvation ….. it is not …………

          • Amos Moses

            What is really disturbing is that Cyrus sent out the decree to rebuild the Temple … the Second Temple ….. are these people really thinking this thru …. do they expect DJT to somehow get involved in the building the Third Temple ……. Hillary is utterly evil …. although a number of her personality defects that are disease related … new vid to follow …. but why the need to pseudo-scripturalize this stuff …… look, it is prophetic, gonna happen … but is this the meme they have chosen as the “reason” to vote for him …… why? ………..

          • Amos Moses

            again ………… Nation’s Christians Look Forward To Questioning Each Other’s Salvation In Post-Debate Discussions

          • Chet

            I’ve followed many of your posts and have never disagreed till now. Bottom line is, either sinner Trump or sinner Hillary is going to be elected. For this sinner, I see sinner Trump as far and away best suited to serve this nation as its president, hands down. All the rest is is the Lord’s…

          • Amos Moses

            All of it is the Lords …….. and i am not always right …….. so kewl … no worries …… it is not an election issue or a whom to vote for issue …. it is a scriptural issue and a sovereignty issue …. we have no authority nor is God relying on us to do anything ….. all of the “greatest empires” have fallen …. and we will do so likewise …. our vote to the contrary or not ……

          • Chet

            Can’t disagree but I’m casting my lot with sinner Trump and hope for the best. I like your caption, looks like Amos from Amos and Andy…

          • Amos Moses

            No …. Eddie “Rochester” Anderson ……………

          • Chet

            Sure, it’s all coming back to me now…

        • Bezukhov

          Christians must vote for candidates who will rain down the most violence and bloodshed upon the enemies of Christians.

    • Penny LB Perkins

      Yes, it seems pretty clear.

  • Penny LB Perkins

    Calling those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ to vote in this election. You have been given this responsibility by God. God has given us Pence. A true beliver and honorable man. How can you not place this man as our VP? If Hillary wins there will never be another Republican in the White House. The corruption is too great.

    • Becky

      You have been given this responsibility by God? Really? Show the scripture, please.

      Pence is Catholic…true believers don’t worship idols/saints neither do they worship the pompous pope as God on earth. Furthermore, he revised Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act to appease homosexual activist groups. He, like any other politician, will say/do what is necessary to position himself for a higher political position. The secular political system belongs to the world and the world belongs to Satan (John12:31).

      • Penny LB Perkins

        Pence gave his statement of faith at the VP debate. That is all I need. I am not in a place to judge are you?

        • Amos Moses

          And yet you have made a judgement ………………. ” You have been given this responsibility by God. God has given us Pence. A true beliver and honorable man.” ……… this is your judgement …………..

          • Penny LB Perkins

            ….As to his statement of faith. I do not know about how he lives out his faith.Therefore I am not in a position to judge as Becky was. She said that he is like any other politician and we don’t know that either. So far I am impressed.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      Takes courage to stand up for Trump… even if Trump loses, may God bless you and all of his supporters. I believe people like us who see the real issues and the real Trump are very blessed.

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      Pence does not oppose homosexuality. Does he? USA really needs freedom from homosexuality for the nation to survive.

      • Becky

        Grace Kim Kwon, based on what Christ has taught us about the last days, do you really believe that our nation, or any other nation for that matter, would ever be freed from homosexuality? Please recall that Christ warned us that the last days would be like Sodom and Gomorrah and like the days of Noah. Perhaps we’re not at that point, yet, but it’s undoubtedly headed that way…worldwide…just like Christ warned.

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          Yes, I know. I mean the freedom from the reign of homosexuality. It prohibits morality. Atheists rant freedom from religion and it means they do not wish to be ruled by the Judeo-Christian values although Christianity is the only thing that brought truth and human rights and freedom. The Lord is near, and we must reject to be ruled by the Sodomites. Jesus commanded His followers to teach the global disciples to obey everything He has commanded them. We still have some freedom. Western Sodomites are not behaving like the communist atheists yet. Freedom in the Western civilization therefore the world was established to live out the Christianity, not to be subdued by the Western Sodomites in the 21st century. Secularism was actually never neutral. Christian American fathers taught mankind to fight against injustice and tyranny, based on the Holy Bible. ( Proverbs ch.24, Micah ch. 3)

  • Becky

    God has never instructed his people to choose the lesser of two evils in anything. Politics belongs to this world, which belongs to Satan (John 12:31), and it has always worked against God’s word and his people. In fact, God’s people are instructed to stay away from, “…those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.”(Romans 16). Also, we’re clearly told in Romans 3 that we should not do evil against God for the greater good. However, politicians are asking Christians to do the exact opposite…they’re asking you to go against God’s word by supporting Trump or Hillary, even though they will…and they will…intentionally commit evil against God (eg supporting abortions, homosexuality, etc).

    By trusting God we can never go wrong. He knows who he’ll put into power and he knows how that power will work according to his plan…whether for good or evil. We can do nothing to change that, else why did he reveal the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10)?

    “Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” James 4:4

    “I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.” John 17:14

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      People like u will help Hillary who loves to murder 3000 babies a day be elected, God knows more about our country and our hearts more than we know ourselves, even the very numbers of the hair of your head are numbered. My vote will go for the innocent babies that where killed that have no voice to vote. But thanks for letting us know how perfect you are and Trump isn’t.

      • Amos Moses

        And if …. and it is a big IF … DJT gets elected … and we have the exact same result …. as he has demonstrated no ability to alter things as they are …. his whole life is built on compromise and the “Art of the Deal” ……. will you not be likewise responsible for those deaths ……… and will you also be voting for those deaths caused …. and why not? ………………

      • Amos Moses

        Rigged: Corporate Media Declare Victory for Hillary Clinton Weeks Before Election

        as i said … a big IF …. vote … do not vote …. the corruption is so massive …. it may make no difference ….. God has determined judgement on a nation that allows homomarriage …. we have been given over as a nation to the fruits of that debauchery ……….. Romans 1 …………

      • Amos Moses

        Nation’s Christians Look Forward To Questioning Each Other’s Salvation In Post-Debate Discussions

  • George Forleo

    Darrell Castle and the Constitution party.

  • Illuminated

    Naturally. It’s the worst election year ever.

  • NCOriolesFan

    Warning to Evangelicals; NOT voting for Trump means a vote for Hillary. If Hillary wins, Evangelicals can blame no one except themselves and furthering the moral degeneration of the USA.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

    Praise God! Perhaps Christians are beginning to wake up.

    Regardless whether Clinton or Trump wins, America loses, at least initially.

    I don’t think anyone will argue that we have been chosen to live in challenging times. They are also exhilarating times for those who have eyes to see that we are witnessing what is perhaps the most important paradigm shift in America’s history.

    One of the ways this shift is evident is in that today’s corrupt government system is self-destructing, preparing the way for Yahweh’s ambassadors to fill the coming vacuum with a righteous alternative–if only we’re prepared to do so.

    Today’s two presidential candidates (Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump) are but further evidence that the biblically seditious Constitutional Republic (http://www.bibleversusconstitu… is under God’s judgment. See Daniel 4:17.

    Because Yahweh, God of the Bible, is sovereign, everything goes wrong just right. Whether Clinton or Trump gets elected, America will be getting exactly who she deserves. Either one will be for America’s judgment for her rejection of Yahweh, which commenced in 1787 with the 18th-century founding founders’ humanistic government of, by, and for the people based upon capricious man-made Enlightenment and Masonic traditions.

    The good news is with enough judgment, America will someday repent and return to her God. Nevertheless, we do not want to be party to that judgment and thus complicit in the nation’s sins.Before voting for one of these two candidates (or any candidate for that matter), PLEASE LISTEN to the message we just posted. It’s titled “Constitutional Elections: Dining at the ‘Devil’s’ Table’.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Audio Messages page, scroll to the bottom of the page, and click on title.

  • Chet

    Fellow believers, you’re going to get either sinner Trump or sinner Hillary for president whether you vote or not. So, climb down off your spiritual high horse and get with it, man. This sinner will gladly cast his lot with sinner Trump as far and away the best choice to serve this nation as its president, hands down… The rest is up to the Lord…